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Esther
Hello, welcome to Sugar Fish. Hi, my name is Lisa and I'm.
Kalila
Your backup server, Kalila.
Esther
Is this a first date?
Jaime
Be here for an hour.
Jenna
Have you guys been rude? Don't like that.
Esther
Have you guys been here before? Are you first timers?
Jaime
I'm a first timer.
Jenna
I've been here before.
Esther
Sluggies. We have our most exciting news ever. January 28th. We are doing our first live show in years. Live in Los Angeles at the Comedy Store. We are going to have special guests.
Kalila
Maybe one Jaime Garcia. Maybe Jenna Jimenez.
Esther
Not maybe.
Jenna
I will be there.
Jaime
Single Jenna, hopefully.
Esther
But Jaime has big plans for the new year.
Kalila
You guys, this will be my first night out in I think two years literally. There. We haven't done this in a while.
Esther
I know. And the Comedy Store is so iconic. It's such a fun night out. There's such good restaurants around there as I know because I've been eating at all of them late at night after my sets because I'm pregnant. Anyways, get your tickets at the link below. We can't wait to see you January 28th in Los Angeles.
Jenna
What time does it start?
Esther
8Pm mom time. Not too late. We're in the main room.
Jaime
Oh, kinky.
Esther
See you there.
Jenna
Have you ever been to maybe a Christmas party and you stink and you smell bad? Yeah. You don't want that. Especially over the holidays or in the new year. So I have a fix for that. It's my natural deodorant that I homemake. It's all natural. It's called Pit stop and you can get it on by tia Jenna dot com. That's by T I A J N N A dot com.
Jaime
Is it for men or women?
Jenna
Any human who has armpits. It's for you. What?
Jaime
It smells like homemade waffles.
Jenna
Thank you. Thank you. It's all natural ingredients. There's no aluminum. There's no trash. There's no in it.
Jaime
It's delicious.
Jenna
And only for sluggies. You can use the code trash at checkout for a code. And I now have subscriptions which also get you money off by dot com.
Jaime
Nice.
Esther
Look at how beautiful our New Year's Eve, you guys. We actually have decorations.
Jenna
Damn, Klila. Why do you keep looking so good?
Kalila
Look how beautiful I look.
Esther
I actually love that hoodie.
Jenna
No bra holes.
Esther
Where is that hoodie? It's the perfect. Like I stole this out of a trunk.
Kalila
I'll tell you what's this is actually not my favorite hoodie. But I'll tell you one that's so good. The Perfect weight. The perfect length is akimbo.
Esther
I've never even heard of it.
Jenna
Esther wants to know what that one is, though. Yeah.
Esther
Thank you, lawyer.
Kalila
I got this. Black Friday on TikTok.
Esther
Oh, my God. That's the TikTok Shop hoodie. I've been eyeing that. That why I didn't want to say.
Kalila
I was like, please get a Kimbo.
Esther
I don't understand. Wait, am I the only one that doesn't know how I feel about Tik Tok Shop?
Kalila
Like, I have weird feelings about it.
Esther
I see things, I want them, but I don't trust them. But then, like, I will buy things and it. It's just confusing.
Kalila
Well, everybody has a TikTok Shop, so. Yes, you can. Yes. I mean, all of, like, the. The more reliable ones. I was just telling.
Jenna
It's not just like Temu.
Kalila
No, I know the vacuums from tik tok. The $50 ones. I was just telling her aces. Really good.
Jenna
I need one for my car.
Kalila
Oh, yeah, Tik Tok Shop. I know. Actually, don't, because I don't know who's making these vacuums.
Esther
It just seems so shady. But then I'll see things and I'm like, this is good. And I buy this already.
Jenna
Yeah, it just seemed like another product that's actually good.
Kalila
No. Can I tell you, the bull about it all is like, they all probably are made in the same factory and they're all just packaged differently. And it's like the same with a Lululemon. Bullshit. Like, you can find a dupe that's like 50 times better for, you know, a tenth of the price.
Jenna
I bet you're right. I mean, I know you're right.
Kalila
Sucks, but.
Esther
Well, we're at a New Year's party, we're being stood up by the guy.
Jenna
Good.
Kalila
When is the last time you actually went to a New Year's party? Or, like, did anything cute and like, romantic, like kiss a boy words or not?
Jenna
Oh, I remember the last time I went to a New Year's party. It was 2017, after me got back from Peru and we had a New Year's kiss.
Kalila
But was it memorable or was it like, eh, we're together.
Jenna
I was with Gilbert too, so I guess it was.
Kalila
Did you kiss Gilbert?
Jenna
We, like, it was like, me, Kyle, Gilbert, we, like, all went in on, like, the same.
Kalila
And then.
Jenna
And I like, did a real kiss.
Kalila
Do you and Dave kiss on New Year's?
Esther
If I'm awake, yeah. Nobody likes my take on New Year's Eve. I get hate for it. Every year.
Kalila
Let's hear it.
Esther
I think it's such a perfect night to go to the grocery store and like it's empty. You load up on what you need. You're like in the zone of starting a new lifestyle.
Jenna
You're talking to the right people, girl.
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
I love the grocery store on New Year's Eve. When I was in elementary school, in middle school, me and my best friend cuz we had a 24 hour Walgreens. So we always like to be at Walgreens when the clock struck midnight. Just cuz we could.
Jenna
Like we can.
Esther
So we will, so we can, so we will.
Jenna
Love that.
Esther
She always had us eating grapes at midnight. Is that like a Latin thing?
Kalila
I love it because that's what Filipinos do. It must be Latin.
Esther
Yeah, I just like cozy night. I can't imagine you're doing anything different.
Kalila
Listen, that's not the vibe I grew up in. The Filipinos go hard with the fireworks, explosives, lost fingers and toes like, you know, like warfare. Since my childhood though, they have like set out new laws to be like, hey, we can't party like this anymore. Like people are losing limbs and shit. Oh God. I want to take you guys to ever beach in Hawaii New Year's Eve.
Jenna
I'm too tired.
Kalila
Your ears will like fly off your. It's. It's a lot.
Esther
I'll be calling the police. That's what I do on fourth of July.
Jenna
Oh God.
Kalila
But that's how I grew up. But now as an like last New Year's, what did I do? I was like nursing my baby in the dark.
Jenna
Oh my God. Will you nurse me in the dark?
Kalila
Yeah. How many, how many ounces you need, girl?
Jenna
Probably 16.
Esther
I don't have that much. If you guys listen to me right now. If you guys do that, if you breastfeed off of her. If you both allow this, what are.
Jenna
You gonna give us?
Esther
You can ask me for whatever you want. And I will give or do.
Kalila
I will know.
Jenna
You're not gonna easy. It's so easy.
Kalila
I don't know. But I mean, you could try. I'll give you one letdown you later.
Jenna
It'll just be a big letdown.
Esther
This is the end of the year episode. This is like scaring me.
Kalila
Is it?
Esther
Yeah. Like the year went by too fast and like I. It all got ruined for me because I got pregnant.
Jenna
Sam. I feel like it all got ruined for me because of my health. Like from January to March I was like, let's go. And then it was just like, well, what's this year been.
Kalila
But you know, I will say, and you're not, you're going to be like, that's not true. And you won't admit to it. But you have that same pregnancy battery that I had and you're gonna be like, I'm so tired. She's doing all the vlogs, she's doing all the content she has. She. She won't admit to it.
Jenna
You should see the text that I sent her of the lists that she does.
Kalila
Yeah.
Jenna
Of things. But I will say she's doing them in like between the one to two hours that she feels like she's able to even get out of bed and like not have a stomachache or like not be.
Kalila
I believe that the in between times are like your pelv. Whatever. Hu. But in your first pregnancy too, Like, I was in awe of how much you got done. Like you had a movie coming out. You were flying up until like 37 weeks.
Jenna
Like she was all over the place, tours and shows. She's doing more Internet content than I've ever done. She's editing, she's spending the time, she's trying to eat food that's good for her.
Esther
And I'm glad you're saying this. I'm. I mean, I'm trying, but I'm not. I'm eating bagels every meal.
Jenna
But like, good for you, if that's what you need.
Esther
I will say that I have this, this, this self hatred, this self punishing where I feel so sorry for myself. I'm so pathetic. But it's like I'm not doing any walking. You know, I'm my. I think if I had my physical.
Jenna
My physicals in order, your mentals would be in order.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
So I do really appreciate these words and I'm taking them in. Like I genuinely am. I do appreciate it because I don't feel good about myself.
Jenna
This is like that thing where my friends listen to everything that everyone else says, but like if I say it, they don't believe it. It has to be corrected with someone else.
Kalila
It's you too close.
Jenna
And so it's like she hasn't.
Esther
No, I trust you guys. I believe you guys.
Jenna
But now that you're saying it, that's not true. Literally yesterday, I feel good.
Esther
Yesterday you texted me, you're like, you need to stop this. This is all the stuff you've done. And I was like, I'm here, I'm taking this in.
Jenna
Yeah. We didn't say you appreciated it. You were just like, yes.
Esther
Speaking of, do We. I. And this question is. I don't want to answer it at all. And I have no answer. Does anyone have a highlight of their year?
Jenna
I have a highlighter in my bag.
Kalila
Let's talk about our lowlights and highlights.
Jenna
Okay. Our peaks and valleys, popcorn style.
Esther
Who's got.
Kalila
Okay, start with a low light. Somebody hit me because I'm about to come up with some sad.
Jenna
Fine, I'll give you all my low lights.
Esther
We do this every week.
Kalila
We don't need New Year's for this.
Jenna
Am I really going with the low light?
Kalila
Yes. Start with a low light and then one low light light. One highlight, not one.
Jenna
Jenna, health and career.
Kalila
Okay. Yeah. Your eye. Low light.
Jenna
My eye, my heart, my migraines, my pcos.
Kalila
Those are low lights. What's a highlight?
Jenna
A highlight is. It'll come to me.
Kalila
She's coming on it. Pray on it.
Jenna
You know what? My high is how the year started.
Kalila
And with wildfires.
Jenna
Oh, no.
Esther
Locked away in Palm Springs with me.
Jenna
Yeah.
Kalila
That's how our year started.
Jenna
Remember when Esther discovered that I was ugly? No. You know what? I was hopeful. Hope is a big thing for me. Like, even if nothing is happening, the hope. I felt hopeful. Obviously, I was devastated by the fires and very sad. But I started doing stand up again, and that was really huge. And I did some shows with Esther and some shows with Melissa. Doing standup felt good because it felt like I was creating again. And then from doing standup, I. I booked stuff. I booked pilot presentations, I booked a commercial, which was actually from doing Trash Tuesday because this casting director from when I was like 13 recognized me on Trash Tuesday was like, oh, Jenna exists. What about her? So those are.
Kalila
Remember that? Okay, yeah. Remember that?
Esther
Cause Kalila's about to ask you to drive her.
Jenna
But it wasn't because of Trash Tuesday.
Kalila
Okay?
Jenna
He already been known. You just.
Kalila
You just said it was because of Trash Tuesday. And remember that when we asked you about January 6th?
Esther
Because we're storming the capital, baby.
Kalila
Because not quite the capital, but her and I both have doctor's appointments we'd like you to drive us to.
Esther
I would never dare ask you to drive. And I have text proof.
Jenna
January 7th, by the way, was the Altadena fires. Oh, no, I was saying that January 7th, I actually either riots or five minutes.
Kalila
You have what?
Jenna
I have two doctor cardio appointments at UCLA.
Esther
2026. New Year's resolution for this friend group is go to doctor's appointments together.
Jenna
Yeah, I've been asking that for a thousand years. But, like, all I Ever do is drive people to doctor's appointments. Okay.
Esther
Not me, but respect you do. I, I. You are always driving friends. I know that.
Kalila
But also, I have been to many doctor's appointments with you.
Jenna
Yes.
Kalila
And, yeah, I have Jenna sit on my lap when she gets blood drawn.
Jenna
And when I got my vaccine, I sat on her lap because she sobbing. Yeah, but I did drive us both.
Jaime
Your.
Kalila
That staff infection in your armpit.
Jenna
Kalila and I have been through some.
Kalila
Health times, just medicals.
Jenna
Do you remember when I showed up in a. I just happened to be in a Batman outfit or Superman outfit when you were having an episode and.
Kalila
I was in a Superman outfit and.
Jenna
I was in Batman. Was it.
Kalila
Can I tell you what happened the first time I ever had a real, like, cardiac episode where I needed to call 91 1. Like, I almost, like, passed out. And I was alone 200. So I called Jenna. I was like, hey, I'm having, like.
Jenna
A really bad call me. When I was, like, asleep.
Kalila
And it just. Sadly, I was in a Superman onesie when all I was eating meatballs on a couch with a Superman onesie on, just alone. Hotter and hotter, Jenna comes over. The paramedics come, but she comes to rescue me in a Batman onesie that I just.
Jenna
I. It's just what I was in.
Kalila
And they're. They're looking at us like we're on drugs, like, this is a prank.
Jenna
Lila's on the floor.
Kalila
I'm on the floor in the hallway because I'm like, if I die, I want someone to visual, like, see my dead body like this.
Jenna
I'm spread out, trying to stay alive.
Kalila
And I was telling my neighbor, telling my neighbors, I was like, if I lose consciousness, here's my information.
Jenna
It's real.
Kalila
But it was a shock when you showed up in the onesie. I was like, what is happening? That we are not superheroes after all.
Esther
That is a real thing that I do where I'll tell you. Text Jenna and Dave on a group text and be like, just so you guys know, as I'm falling asleep, like, I feel this tingling in my leg. So if I don't wake up, like, look, trace back to that.
Jenna
And she just goes. And I just want to make sure that, like, someone that, like, Ace is going to be okay and Donut will be okay. And I'm like, yeah, I'm adopting all of them. Yeah, I agree, though. Doctor's appointments with friends are so much better. So maybe what we do is we have some sort of spreadsheet. You put it in that's right. If someone can go. I know it's too much work. If someone can. Or a text or a notes. A note. A shared note.
Kalila
Yeah.
Jenna
And if someone can go that day, then we go.
Kalila
I mean, my sister usually takes me to all of my appointments, so I'll ask her if she can.
Jenna
Love that. I don't want to do that.
Esther
Why am I. I'm fine driving to my own appointment.
Kalila
You know, I couldn't not so when I was pregnant, I couldn't not drive because I was so nauseous and felt so ill. You. You had to drive, so I had to drive. I couldn't be a passenger, like, ever. And, you know, I'm a passenger, princess. And the fact that big ass aloha next to me, this man in my little, like, car was just like, this feels wrong. And I'm just so huge.
Esther
I like dry. I like the control of driving. Like, I don't like Ubers. Like, I like having my car and being like, okay, well, if I want to go do whatever I want after this or if I want to just leave quick. Like, I love it.
Jenna
Like, once you almost die because of something medical, everything shifts, right? And you're like, I need someone there because I could die. Is that how it is for you?
Kalila
Yeah. I'm stuck on the Uber thing. I'm so scarred by Uber. Being a passenger.
Jenna
Oh, my God.
Kalila
Uber Tesla.
Jenna
I thought you were saying scared, but with your accent. So scarred.
Kalila
I scarred. Hi, Jaime. Come on in. Oh, he came with flowers.
Esther
Hi, Jaime.
Jaime
Hey, how you doing? Hi, my Garcia. This is for you.
Kalila
Oh, my God. I thought it was for all of us, and then it's just for Jenna.
Esther
Do you guys know each other?
Jenna
Wait, is this, like, the Bachelor?
Jaime
How you doing?
Jenna
This is so a little cool. This is so sweet, the way you came in and just asserted yourself like that. What's up?
Jaime
What's up?
Kalila
What's good?
Jaime
Not much. Just here in bear banking.
Kalila
Do you have a crush or something?
Esther
Hi, miss.
Jaime
On Jenna? Yeah, a little bit.
Kalila
Oh. Because, you know, in tiger belly, he was like, hey, I'm doing trash Tuesday. And you know Jenna. I'm like, okay. I didn't clock it until now. The flowers.
Jenna
That is so sweet.
Jaime
You can have them.
Esther
You gave them.
Jenna
I was hoping that I could have them. Do you usually typically give things and then just take them right back?
Kalila
Okay.
Jenna
No, I said right here.
Kalila
Welcome. What has been a low light and a highlight of this past year?
Jenna
Are you chewing dip?
Jaime
No. A gum. Okay.
Jenna
Oh, okay. You could just keep that in here.
Jaime
What would you say?
Kalila
So your least favorite thing that happened this year and your favorite thing that happened this year.
Jaime
My favorite thing. I got to be on the road more and work out material and stop drinking.
Kalila
You stop drinking completely.
Jenna
That is really.
Esther
When?
Jaime
In May.
Esther
Congratulations.
Jenna
Did you say I don't drink and then point to me?
Esther
Yeah.
Jaime
I don't know. You like a guy who drinks or.
Jenna
You know, I mean, I don't know if you know, but I have a partner.
Jaime
Like a comedy writer.
Jenna
You know, we'll just not. We'll just not mention a crush on you. I do like a guy who doesn't drink.
Jaime
Drink. Yeah. This green flag, right?
Jenna
Yes, very green flag.
Kalila
Why did you stop drinking?
Jaime
Just because, like, I like. I don't like the effect.
Kalila
The way you felt or the decisions that you were making.
Jaime
The choices I was making.
Jenna
Yeah, but you liked the way you felt Sometimes.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
But then the come down. Esther and I were just talking about this. We just learned about the comedown from alcohol.
Esther
Makes you, like, more anxious after and depressed.
Kalila
100. As someone who used to drink a lot. A lot, dude. The day after. And then actually a couple days after, the anxiety is.
Jenna
That's what I've heard. Yeah. Okay. This is something I learned like two years ago that there's. Because I just pictured it as like, I'm so tired. I need to eat food. Like what my friends would say, or like, I have a headache or I'm nauseous. The anxiety and the sadness. They said they felt like. Yeah. Three up to three days after. Sometimes a week.
Jaime
Oh, you're getting old too. So how. You're 29.
Jenna
You look young.
Jaime
29, bitch.
Jenna
I'm like 10 years older than you.
Jaime
Oh, yeah. So we wouldn't work out right now.
Esther
Well, how do you feel about that?
Jaime
What?
Jenna
I know you like an older woman.
Jaime
I. I tend to go for older women.
Jenna
Okay. We like that. That's a green flag too.
Jaime
Because they're more experienced in life. You know, they're more. No, like, they're more.
Kalila
Glad you said. In life.
Jenna
Yeah, in life.
Jaime
Yeah.
Kalila
Oh, yeah.
Jaime
They're more wiser. They know what they want. They know what they bring to the table. You know, I hate.
Jenna
I mean, we bring everything to the table.
Kalila
What we want. Wait, Jaime. And then. So you stopped drinking. That's a. That's a highlight.
Jenna
That's amazing.
Jaime
Yeah. I gotta stop saying I'm sober because I was never. I don't know. This is. The comments, they're like, Jaime was never an alcoholic. But what is an alcoholic?
Jenna
Someone who's addicted to alcohol and drinking and like, really, really struggles. Like, are you really struggling every single day to not drink?
Jaime
Like the first two months? Yeah, because everybody.
Jenna
Yeah, that's like you're whatever you want to be.
Esther
If you are whatever you're sober, alcoholic, you are. But Dr. Drew said nobody can tell you otherwise.
Jaime
Not the comments, nothing.
Kalila
But that's especially not that definition of just addiction in general. Not just alcoholism is consequences. If what you're doing has a consequence in your relationships, your friendships, your work, the way you feel, your physicality, every. Whatever it is, if you have ex. Consequences from this drug that you're doing, it's probably something to look into.
Jenna
But who, who doesn't have consequences if they're drinking?
Kalila
A lot of people. A lot of people who just like, you know, leisurely drink and they have a nice time, they go home with their partner and every. Their life just resumes. There's a lot of people who do it.
Jenna
Consequences of drinking.
Kalila
Yeah. There are people who.
Jenna
Your body.
Kalila
No, some people don't feel that horrible. I feel physical, but like, maybe they.
Jenna
Don'T feel it, but their body.
Kalila
No, one, two drinks is not going to trash you completely.
Esther
They have a glass of wine at dinner.
Jenna
Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
Jaime
And a lot of single guys, we, some of us, we go out to, you know, have one night stands. And then, you know, after so many nights of rejection, we drink and then we get depressed when we go home. Well, I get depressed when I go home. When I was drinking and not going home with nobody.
Esther
Oh, my God. I'll never forget when I was on the road, I did the La Jolla Comedy Store. And that was when, like, you had to share the condo with like, like all the other people on the show. And it was me and like three other guys. And every single night, the guy, one of like the headliners I was with, he'd be like, look, Esther, like, I just want to let you know, like, I'm not going to be making it back to the condo with you tonight. But like, don't take it personally. Like, I'm just, you know, I'm probably going to be with. And then every single night he would be headed back to the condo.
Jenna
Oh, my God, that is so good.
Kalila
I know.
Esther
It was so funny because every. He was like, like, so for sure. You were probably like, okay, yeah, didn't care at all. Either way. It was so good.
Jenna
Would he ever mention anything about him coming back?
Esther
We went back together.
Jenna
I thought like, he would come back after the night.
Esther
No, like, we would go to the show together, and then he would assume that he would have to, you know, we would drive back together.
Kalila
Have you ever been as a. I'll ask you in a sec.
Esther
Jaime.
Kalila
Have you ever been as a woman, like, like, flat out rejected?
Jenna
I'm sure, but I don't notice it, but I know it had to happen.
Esther
Yes.
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
Yes. There is a comedian that I used to have the biggest crush on. I'm friendly with now, but, like, in my early 20s, I just was like, you're really hot. And he was just like. Didn't say anything back, and it was uncomfortable.
Jenna
See, I don't even see that as rejection, because if so, I'm rejected 24 7, baby.
Esther
No, you feel it when they're like. Because you. There's a difference. Like, you're hot. It's like, oh, like, thanks. It's like, you're hot. Like.
Jenna
No, I guess that happened to me a lot in college when I used to go around or even when we used to go out, and I would, like, go up and check to see if a dude was hot.
Kalila
Yeah, but the way you do it, you don't really want them. You're just.
Esther
Yeah, I know. You're playing around.
Kalila
You're almost, like, harassing them. Honestly, you're just out harassing them. Yeah, she's just cat calling mentally, because it's like.
Esther
You ever been rejected by a man? Man?
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
Right.
Kalila
Second grade was my first one. And I'll never forget story. And I've told this story, I swear.
Jenna
I'm just gonna say before you tell the story, I know already that they rejected you because they liked you. Continue.
Kalila
They didn't. He was the cool boy. He turned out to be a really short, loser, like, conspiracy theorist. So thank God.
Jaime
Taxi. Taxi cab driver. All right. What?
Esther
Why did you say last time?
Kalila
Absolutely.
Jaime
You ever seen those movies?
Kalila
Taxi Driver?
Jaime
No. Like, he became a taxi driver or something.
Kalila
Oh, Robert De Niro.
Jaime
No, no.
Jenna
I'm talking about saying, like, this dude, his personality. You know what? I get you.
Kalila
What is it? What is it?
Jenna
I get you. I got you. He's saying, like, this type of personality, he ended up as, like, a short taxicab driver.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
Thank you.
Kalila
I thought it was a movie reference.
Jenna
Yeah, he was saying, like, he's seen movies like that where that's how the story pans out.
Jaime
The quarterback tech, he was so hot and cool and sleeping with the girls in high school. And then he peaked the high school.
Kalila
And not quite, because this was second grade.
Jenna
Also, taxi cab drivers.
Kalila
He Peaked in second grade, okay. And so all the girls liked him, but I went out of my way. So everyone, it was like Halloween and we had this like face painting game of like chase. And everyone was like putting like colors on each other. And then I made the mistake sake of asking if I could paint his face instead of just doing this. And I was like, hey, like, can I, can I paint your face? And he goes off, like to my face. He said off. And I like hear it in my sleep sometimes. The second time was maybe not a real rejection, but I was at UNLV and I hooked up with a baseball player. I don't think he was the brightest bulb.
Esther
Oh, the athletes in college are always stupid.
Kalila
But he was so good looking. And I would always see him at the cafeteria and I'd be like, wow, he's really hot. So anyways, made out with him all night and then at the end of the next morning, he was like, it was really good to meet you, Malaysia. And then he took off and I never corrected him. And I feel like that's a. That felt like a rejection.
Esther
Maybe he thought you were like the airline, Malaysian airline, and he thought you needed to disappear.
Kalila
It hadn't happened yet.
Esther
Predicting it.
Jenna
Malaysia.
Kalila
Malaysia. And so I was like, oh, I feel that feeling.
Jenna
I was like, dang, Malaysia is a dope ass name.
Esther
Malaysia.
Jenna
Oh my God. Malaysia.
Kalila
I think she was like a reality star, really pretty one.
Jenna
So this I've never. You know, this whole thing about rejection is interesting because I really do think that I've probably been rejected many times and I just like, don't clock it.
Esther
Oh my God, she wants to fit in so bad right now.
Jenna
I do, I do. But here's the thing. I didn't start even like catcalling or dating until, as you know, I was like 21. So it happened way late.
Kalila
But you only caught dudes you don't want want.
Jenna
No, I can't call dudes who I think are hot. It doesn't mean that I want them. No, correct. But this is why cat calling. Women can cat call and men can't because men cat call with the intention of wanting something, following you home, being annoying. I'm cat calling, letting, just letting you.
Jaime
Know, to bring our spirits up.
Jenna
They're like, you're hot. Like, I'll walk up to a dude, you're fine. I want to sit on your face. Goodbye, keep walking. It's like, that's how you do it. And then if, if they want to come to you, then they can.
Kalila
I have seen Jenna in action. So she'll be like, you're hot. Let me sit on your face. And the guy's like, okay. And she's like. She runs away and she rejects them.
Jenna
You've also seen me in action where I do that, and it kind of works.
Kalila
Yeah.
Jenna
And then he was too drunk. Remember when we were in Vegas?
Kalila
Oh, yeah. Jenna met a guy she cat called a guy. And then they were, like, dancing, and then he picked her up, thinking that it was like a. A cute move to, like, a Dirty Dancing move. And he threw her onto the ceiling. She's not into, like, the popcorn ceiling, like, into the light. Oh, my God.
Jenna
With my head. I'm like, going.
Kalila
And her head was like, her neck. There's a. I have a picture of it. Her neck cracked. It was as best. Raining as best.
Esther
And he's like, there's nothing I hate more like stories from your guys's past.
Jenna
Being someone being drunk, though, is so gross. It's such a turn. And so although I cat called him. And then he broke your neck, he came back, and I was like, okay, we could do. Did I kiss him?
Kalila
You did. Yeah. I have pictures.
Jenna
Okay. So I kissed him because I'm like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go out and, like, do this thing. And. And then he was just, like. He started talking to me about his family, and he was drunk, and I was like, kalila, we gotta go.
Kalila
There's one more element of this story that's funny, and we can cut this out if you don't want, but we were on Spirit Airlines on the way back.
Jenna
You. Yeah, I was in an open relationship at that time, and I was not, like, taking advantage of it. Right. So I had all these pictures of.
Kalila
Her and asbestos guy with her neck cranked and stuff, and I sent it to her, and she meant to send it to, like, the group chat or her friends, but she accidentally sent it right before the plane takes off, and you lose WI fi. She sends it. We're in the back.
Jenna
This is not an over exaggeration. Everything she's saying is. Is exactly how it happened.
Kalila
So we're all in a row, and she texts the photograph, a bunch of them to the guy she's in an open relationship with. And then the plane takes off, and she cannot. There's no unsend at that time.
Esther
What happened when you landed?
Jenna
He said nothing. And I said, like, hey, sorry, I. I meant to send those to Kalila in the group. And he just goes, goes, yeah, I figured. And I just go, okay.
Jaime
He's okay with it, right?
Jenna
Okay with it. It's like it's the agreement. We were communicating. I wasn't lying. It's not like the pictures were of me having sex. We didn't have sex together, but he was just like, I don't want to know about it, you know? Yeah, it was just me being. The pictures were like, of me with the nipple covers being slammed into the ceiling by a man dressed in a kangaroo.
Kalila
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Esther
Very uncomfortable today, so I'm in weird positions all day. Sorry, guys.
Jenna
Okay, this is normal, but blur out the double chin.
Esther
I'm gonna list some of the biggest pop Culture moments of the year. And Jaime and anyone else. I want to hear what your thoughts are.
Jenna
Wow. I don't care about any of them already.
Esther
Play concert, cheating, scandal.
Jenna
Can you tell me. You're gonna have to tell me what each thing is.
Kalila
Wait, no. You couldn't have missed this one. Jaime, do you know about this?
Jaime
Yeah.
Kalila
Okay.
Jaime
I was there.
Jenna
Is it the. Is it the guy who's kissing someone?
Kalila
He was holding the woman that wasn't his wife.
Jenna
Oh, yeah. And then he tried to.
Kalila
And Chris Martin was like, oh, look at that couple.
Jenna
Yes, okay, I did see that. That one's crazy.
Esther
It's kind of boring to me.
Jenna
It's not boring. I mean, I guess it's. It's. It's more so tired. It's like, yeah, another man cheating. Like, I don't know.
Jaime
Yeah, it's disgusting.
Esther
Katy Perry went to space going to Mars. She did not go to Mars.
Jaime
She went to Mars to get some moon rocks.
Esther
She went to space, face. For eight minutes.
Jaime
Eight minutes. And she's.
Kalila
And she's. Now I feel like the more interesting thing is that she's dating Justin Trudeau.
Esther
I feel like they're so gross.
Kalila
I feel I'm pretty icked out about it, too.
Jenna
Justin Trudeau, the ex Canadian.
Jaime
Oh, ex Canadian. How do you.
Kalila
The exc. Canadian.
Jenna
I remember thinking he was so hot, and now that he's dating her, I don't think he's that hot.
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
How do you feel about everyone who spent money on Labubus this year?
Kalila
You know, it's just another collectible thing that people get into.
Jenna
And it's not a beanie Baby, and it's not like them. And it. It's not.
Jaime
I hated them.
Esther
You know, it is embarrassing, but I will say it's almost like how I feel about religion and believing in God. It's like, I don't want to do that, but if you are doing that, I know that you're happier than me. Like, if you have your Labubu collection and you're, like, spending your money and researching, I'm like, you're. You're doing better than I am.
Jenna
You're a very good correlation.
Esther
You're happy like you believe in something.
Kalila
I do very much envy the delusion of being very pious and religious. Like, when. When I see these people go through hard times, the fact that they. They always, like, this is part of God's plan. They kind of just leave it up to a higher power. And I'm not able to think like that, but they are. I envy that That I envy that.
Esther
It's like, you know, the Kardashians are really religious.
Kalila
Is it for. For real? For real or just go to church?
Esther
The real thing. Did you guys see that? This is my highlight of the year. So the OJ Estate had an auction of all of his things, and one of the things they were selling was a Bible that Robert Kardashian gifted to O.J. simpson after the murders happened. And it was. It was his bi. It was Robert's Bible. So this was their dad's Bible. It had his name inscribed on it, and it had a handwritten note in it and. And all like their dad's underlining in.
Kalila
His own Bible written to a murderer.
Esther
Yeah, well, that part.
Jenna
I wonder if it was like, all just like hidden clues that he underlined and like the underlying words and sentences, like, created a message.
Esther
I don't think so. I don't know.
Jenna
Have you ever seen a movie? It's like, you know. Exactly. And then the person goes, da Vinci, I did it. They're telling him to lie.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
And they figured out, but.
Esther
So Kim bought it at the auction secretly for $80,000.
Kalila
Wow.
Jaime
That's nothing too.
Jenna
Yeah, it's like a KitKat bar to me.
Esther
But they are religious and also, like, Like, I am not surprised, like, if that was your dad's Bible, I mean, Kyla, you have a father who passed away years ago. Would you, like, dig into your pockets to try to get something?
Kalila
Yeah, probably.
Jenna
If.
Kalila
If it had his writing in it, I wouldn't even. Because my dad's writing was very special and very specific and I remember how he writes and I don't have a lot of that left except for birthday cards. And so I would want to. Yeah, that makes sense. I would want to buy that.
Jenna
Yeah. I'm with you about religious people, though.
Esther
They're so much better off than us.
Jenna
They are my, one of my best friends, David, from growing up. He is so religious. We both understand that we're not on the same page, but that, like, in some way it's just us wishing the best for each other. Like, he wakes up at 4 o' clock in the morning and he does his devotions every single day. And I'm always like, david, just sleep. The Lord wants you to sleep. And he's like, this is my meditation time. This is the time that I have to do it before I get to work. Like, it has to be this way. People with structure are way better. And ever since I was little, I remember my mom teaching me because we grew up in A household that was just, like, non religious. And she was like, this is what keeps him going, Jenna. You have to understand that, like, for some people, it's something else. And now it's so cute because we're in our 30s. And even just this morning, every morning, he sends me a YouTube prayer. That's like, what. What he does today.
Esther
That's a little much.
Jenna
No, because he also knows I. He knows that I'm like, david, I'm not. I'm not listening to this, but he'll send me, like, a little excerpt of it. And it's just like, you can change the way that you think, blah, blah, blah. And I just, like, delete in my head, like, the God, God. The God stuff.
Kalila
Are you.
Esther
Are you religious at all?
Jaime
No.
Jenna
Okay, good. Did you green. Oh, oh.
Esther
Do you have any other green flag questions for him?
Jenna
Oh, do you spill a lot of.
Jaime
Crumbs when I eat?
Jenna
Yeah.
Jaime
At dinner.
Jenna
Do you like, do you find crumbs all over your house?
Esther
What about him is making you ask that?
Jenna
That's just one of my green flag questions. In general. For anyone.
Kalila
Oh, that's a very specific team.
Jenna
You seem very clean green.
Jaime
Yeah, I seem. I eat. I get a new sweater sometimes, and then when I'm at dinner, I spill ketchup on it sometimes.
Jenna
That's cute.
Kalila
That's endearing. Also, the crumbs thing is not like a universal green red. That's just a Jonathan.
Jenna
Yeah, that's just a me thing. Yeah, I meant. I don't mean crumbs here. I mean, like, in your house, do.
Esther
Some women like crumbs? I don't think that when I.
Kalila
When I eat, I eat with my heart.
Jenna
What am I talking about when you're eating? I'm talking about, like, there's crumbs by your bed. There's.
Kalila
Oh, yeah, gross. Yeah.
Jaime
No, I don't eat my bum. I don't eat bed. I eat in the kitchen.
Jenna
Green flag.
Esther
Jenna watched me eat in my bed yesterday.
Jenna
And then. And then she put it into the drawer next to her bed. Just like Bobby. She put in chicken and green beans left over.
Kalila
It wasn't an even. It wasn't an empty platter. There was still food in it.
Jenna
You put it in your drawer? And she put it in the drawer and she went like this and looked at me.
Kalila
Eat it later. You save it for later?
Esther
Maybe. Depends.
Jenna
Sometimes last week I found. I don't know when it was from, but she says that it was from that morning, maybe overnight oats that had maybe been there overnight. I opened up her drawer, and I smell, like, strawberry and stuff residue. And I was like, esther, what is this? And she's like, it's my overnight oats. And I was like, from when she goes just today.
Esther
I don't know. It's like, I don't want to look at the food when I'm done. You know, I'm like a guy.
Jenna
Like, after I, like, so have a garbage can.
Esther
I would have to get up.
Jenna
No, you could put one right next to your bed.
Esther
You know, after you, like, get off, you're like, get out of here. That's how I'm doing my food.
Jaime
No, I'm just like, stay.
Jenna
Yeah, that's. Thank you. That's a green flag.
Kalila
That's a red flag. Jaime has talked about pillow talk before.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
Thank God you're not a dude, dude.
Kalila
Oh, my God, Esther, if you were.
Esther
A dude, my parents would raise the most toxic dude. This is, like, my new thing. My dad, they're. They're both so toxic in their own way that a man in this world raised by them would be really bad things. Like, if you don't want to say.
Jenna
What as a man and I did anything that you do, oh, my God. It would just be over.
Kalila
I'd be pretty terrible, too, though.
Esther
I don't know.
Jenna
I don't know. I don't know. But you know what? Let me just say this. Maybe we are only the way that we are because we're women. So we're only asking for the things we're asking for because we're not getting them, because the whole world is belittling us and, like, oppressing us. So maybe we would actually be pretty good men.
Kalila
Oh, wait, I take that back. You're right. I think I would have been a good guy because just my. My mom and my dad. My dad was really cool.
Esther
And also, I feel like you're raising a good son.
Kalila
I hope so.
Esther
I feel like.
Jenna
Oh, my God.
Esther
No, you have zero, like, creepy boy mom red flags.
Jenna
Yeah.
Esther
Which is, like, I don't know how.
Jenna
Amazing calm and cool his dad is.
Kalila
Cool. So it's like, even if I get it all wrong, you're a good boy.
Esther
Mom inspiration for me.
Kalila
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I like that.
Esther
Because you're like. I don't know. You're just very grounded.
Jenna
Wait, a what? What'd you say?
Esther
Boy mom inspiration? Like, she's not, like, weird.
Jenna
Yeah.
Esther
No one. They're weird.
Jenna
And aloha. The way he treats you, that's, like, the biggest factor that I think is going to Lead into how your BB is.
Kalila
I think so. I think that is the biggest. Because boys watch their dad after a certain age, and how he treats the women in his life will be directly attributed to how he sees his dad treat women. And thankfully, like, it sometimes hurts me because Aloha doesn't know how to talk. Sometimes I just want to have a good talking session where I'm just, like, going off about people. And then I tell him. I tell him, and I'm like, okay, now your turn. He has nothing to say.
Jenna
Wait, this used to happen to us.
Kalila
It used to piss me. It, like, oh, yeah. It pisses me the off because I'm like, jenna, I need you to, like.
Jenna
Pile on, at least just not hear what I'm saying. I'm like, but I don't know the person. And so she'll defend them.
Esther
And Dave will always turn around against me. But, like, it sounds like you're in the wrong. I don't know what else to say. Like, And Jenna's just like, huh, I need to really think about that. I do. They're so annoying.
Kalila
Yeah. Aloha is similar in that, well, if I really need it, he's like, no, I hear you. Like, that really sucks. I've never heard him outwardly talk about anyone in his life.
Esther
Same with Dave. Is this all guys or is this, like, really?
Kalila
No, I. I met that the biggest talkers have been men.
Jenna
I look at them all nodding their heads. R will not say a word about anyone. Anyone that's bad. And I'm like, can you just tell me about, like, maybe there's something you didn't like about an ex girl that you dated? And he's like, oh, yeah, there were definitely moments that didn't work out. But I'm like, that's all you got. He won't talk about anyone. And if.
Kalila
Talk about your ex office.
Jaime
Yeah.
Kalila
To who, though?
Jaime
To the guys? No, I'm scared.
Jenna
No, he won't even talk to the guys.
Esther
Will never say anything bad about his exes. But I'll just be there, like, dissecting, being like, well, what about this about her? He's like, I don't really. He's like, I liked her. Like, he's.
Kalila
Isn't it painful?
Esther
Yeah. I'm like, no, but she's the witch.
Jenna
Like, because the.
Kalila
The alternative is a red flag, which is if he talks shitty about his ex, I'm like, okay, you're. You're the bad guy. But then also when they don't talk and they're just like, no, she was great and she was gorgeous and she was a good person. It just didn't work out. I'm like, great and gorgeous. What do you mean, great and gorgeous?
Jenna
That's the type of. That wakes me up at night. I just. I just.
Kalila
Gorgeous.
Jenna
I just hear, like, great and gorgeous. Great and gorgeous. And then that. Honestly, then that word will be a trigger word for me where, like, anytime I hear great or gorgeous, I'm like, oh, my God, you need emdr.
Kalila
You know what I say that's so underhanded and mean and so toxic. It's like, this is what I. I've said one time, and he didn't understand what I was saying. I was just like, I just don't get how you could date someone like her but then be attracted to me. And by that I mean, like, ew. Like, how could you like that? Am I in the same. Am I on the same level? I'm like, how could you have ever like that? But then also like someone like me?
Jenna
And then what is he saying?
Kalila
And then he's just like, like, she was great and she's going, no, it's great.
Esther
If it didn't work out, why are you toe fingering her?
Jenna
Cuz that's how I do. Oh, man. But you know what had her toe. I know, I know. It's like tofu.
Kalila
She toggled my. Is what Esther said.
Esther
That's what Jester said.
Jenna
Jester?
Esther
That's your Jester?
Kalila
You toggled my pussy. You toggled.
Esther
Do not start calling me Jester.
Jenna
I used to call you Fester.
Esther
I know. I hate that more.
Kalila
I love Fester Adams.
Jenna
Are you kidding me?
Esther
Fester, we can't do this.
Jenna
Your name sucks.
Kalila
Can we? Can someone do.
Esther
What's the alternative?
Jenna
Just calling you Esther? That's also bad.
Kalila
No, Fester is good. Fester Adams. Someone make artwork.
Esther
I'll frame it.
Jaime
Please.
Esther
I don't deserve this.
Jenna
You don't, cuz it's too good.
Esther
Wait.
Jaime
I hate my name.
Kalila
Why do you hate your name? Name Jaime is so cool.
Jenna
You know my cousin's name is Jaime.
Kalila
Don't be my virginity too. It's Jaime.
Jaime
Well, a lot of people call me hindman.
Kalila
Oh, that's stupid.
Jaime
I'm getting tired. I'm not a vagina.
Jenna
But you know what a hymen is.
Jaime
I know what it is. Pretty dope, isn't?
Jenna
Yeah, that's part of, like, side of A. It's not even the block. And honestly can break while you're doing anything. Riding a horse.
Kalila
I broke Mine running into a wall on a bicycle, I think.
Jaime
But you know how many times I have to explain to a woman what my name, my name means?
Kalila
That's so stupid. Not in la, you know, so common.
Esther
I thought it was Jamie, I'll admit.
Jaime
That's why I'll just go by Jamie now.
Kalila
Okay.
Jenna
Off. Your mom did not look at the name.
Kalila
Your mom did not give you that name. Your parents said Jaime. Your dad said, hi, man. Your name is Jaime? Yeah, but it's a beautiful name.
Jenna
Are you Mexican?
Jaime
Yeah. Are you Mexican?
Jenna
Yeah.
Jaime
What. What type?
Jenna
Well, if you want to get into it, I'm actually indigenous, and I just found out which tribe two weeks ago, and it is my whole new personality, but I haven't told y' all about it. Otomi. That is my new life. That is the tribe that came up on my 23andMe. And my dad was always like, yeah, miha. Like, we're indigenous. We were the first ones there. And I'm like, okay, okay. Like, I believe you, but. But everyone probably thinks they were the first one there. And he's like, no, if you have this marking on your back that, like, apparently all of them have.
Kalila
That's so cool.
Jenna
He's like, that's like a marking on your back. Yeah, just my birthmark. That's, like a specific shape. And, like, my brother has it, my dad has it.
Esther
Are you serious?
Jenna
Yeah. Again, I was like, I need proof. So I did 23andMe, and it said that I was Native American. And then you look at it, it's like 38%. You look at it, and it says exactly where my dad is from.
Kalila
That's so cool.
Jenna
How crazy is that? And now, only as of two weeks ago, they've updated. We know what tribe you were a part of. Otomi. So then I cross referenced and I looked. Where was the Otomi tribe a part of? And you can look on the map. It's where my dad was from, and they were the first people there. So I'm Mexican. I'm Otomi. Do you know what you are?
Jaime
Yeah.
Esther
What?
Jaime
A Mexican American.
Kalila
Where's your family from?
Jaime
Yeah, they're from Mexico.
Jenna
San Luis Potosi.
Jaime
Yeah.
Esther
Look at how well they're hitting it off. They already have their own little language.
Jaime
Language.
Jenna
San Luis Potosi.
Kalila
Okay.
Jaime
Embarrassment in Spanish.
Jenna
Okay.
Kalila
Say embarrassment in Spanish. Yeah.
Jaime
No, that's not it. That's pregnant.
Jenna
I've never said that in my life. Okay, okay.
Kalila
All right.
Esther
That's what I learned to say at Johnny Rockets.
Jenna
Okay, you're fluent?
Kalila
Yeah. Basically that's all. That's the only sentence you'll ever need to know.
Jenna
Yeah, truly. But I would never say. The way that Google translates I be saying thing. It's like. I would never say that. I would just say, like.
Esther
Do you have any other questions for Jenna?
Jaime
Yeah, I think what attracts me to you is.
Jenna
That's not a question, but I'll take it.
Jaime
Green light. I mean, green flag.
Jenna
Listen, Women watching. Women watching. This is a green light.
Esther
Okay?
Jenna
The way that he just came in, he said, hi, guy. This is my name here. Which is my camera. This. These are my flowers for you. He sat down. He was confident. He's being chill, right? Like he's thirsty. You can tell. But he's chill. But he's chill.
Esther
What else do you want to say or ask or let her know about you?
Jenna
What did you say? The way you're attracted. What'd you say?
Jaime
Oh, me.
Jenna
What did you say? Can you say what attracts.
Kalila
You said, what attracts me to you.
Jaime
What attracts me to you is. You look like. What's her name? Wonder Woman.
Jenna
If you say Gal Gadot. Yeah, everyone says that. And I know.
Jaime
Don't.
Jenna
I don't see it. Literally everyone says I'm Gal Gadot.
Esther
And I'm like, that's crazy. You. Yeah, you look like.
Kalila
I. I see it. I also think you look like a girl from the Shia LaBeouf.
Jenna
That girl who. Everyone thinks that I look like her.
Jaime
Which movie?
Kalila
Gorgeous.
Jaime
Oh, my God, even Stevens.
Jenna
No, it's a. Do you remember the billboard where everyone thought it was me, her name is like Shane or something thing. But I actually see what people see in that because she's just like kind of messy. That girl, Sasha Lane. What is her name?
Esther
She's pretty.
Kalila
She's so pretty.
Jaime
She's great and gorgeous.
Jenna
Everyone was like, it was that you on the billboard.
Jaime
You do have a tattoo in the background.
Jenna
She looks so much like you want.
Esther
Her to know about you or ask.
Jaime
You asked me. What did you ask me right now? What is she my type?
Esther
Yeah.
Jaime
Yeah, she's my type. If she was 10 years younger, it has be to kidding.
Jenna
You have a type. That's not good. That's a red flag.
Jaime
I'm just being dumb.
Jenna
Okay. No, what do you like about.
Esther
What else do you like about Jenna?
Jenna
This is.
Jaime
She's pretty.
Jenna
Like Esther is enjoying this more than you said.
Kalila
She's pretty laid back. Yeah, you would be wrong.
Jaime
Oh, yeah.
Esther
I feel like both of you, though, come off as laid back, but are not.
Kalila
Are not.
Jenna
But I get it also Depends the scenario.
Kalila
I think what you're saying is we look sloppy, but we're actually.
Jenna
We don't wear bras, we hold tires, pants and look sloppy. Because I would say that like, I'm very laid back about a lot of things when it doesn't have to do with me.
Esther
Like, like, well, that's easy.
Jenna
It's like I'm. I'm laid back about if plans change, if I have to do something for someone.
Esther
Wait, why did you say you. Oh, she owes you a coke.
Jaime
Oh, cuz she. We said like at the same time.
Jenna
Oh, jinx.
Jaime
Can't talk.
Kalila
Cute. Wow.
Jaime
Oh, you know what's a highlight? I. I'm gaining more confidence.
Jenna
You're gay. That's a green flag.
Jaime
No, I'm not gay.
Jenna
Okay.
Jaime
The things I do are gay, but I still like gross. But I'm gaining more confidence.
Kalila
You really are though.
Jenna
How do you like that I have confidence, huh? I bet that's what you like about me is my confidence.
Jaime
Yeah.
Esther
This has never felt more like a fourth grade.
Kalila
I also, also don't think that guys necessarily love confidence. They always go for like the scared little mouse.
Esther
Yeah, you sound dumb as hell.
Jenna
I would say that.
Esther
I bet you like what you like about me is that I'm confident. Right?
Kalila
Right, Right.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
A confident guy likes a confident woman. The men y' all are with don't like you because you're mousy and they like you because you are confident. So eat that.
Kalila
That's true.
Jenna
Little boy dudes. Little, they like little mousy ass women because they want you to be so that they have some confidence. Confident man likes confident woman.
Kalila
Some very smart man on tick tock was like, you know the term boy? It's like, yeah, it kind of makes sense and it applies when a dude is like in his 20s, but like after you're 30, you're no longer a boy. He's like, you're just a loser. It's like, what a loser. Like what loser ass behavior is that when you're in your 30s and still behaving? Yeah. Literally a nothing.
Jenna
Just a little.
Esther
We have bananas.
Kalila
We have bananas coming in.
Jaime
You know what I do now, like when I haven't been doing it when I knew meet new people. When they come to green rooms or just anywhere where, where I'm in the couch, I always stand up now and shake their hand.
Esther
Wow, that's very gentlemanly.
Jaime
Yeah. In the green rooms especially because, you.
Esther
Know, you know, I really respect that. I feel like what I like to do is whenever I'm around new people, and I don't always do it, but this is just when I'm thinking and when I'm present is like, there's someone in the room. I don't know. Walk up to them. Hi, I'm Esther. Like, it seems before you think of doing it, you're like, how would I ever interact and engage with a new person? And then once you just are like, I'm Esther, and you just say your name, it's like, yeah, you gotta do it now. You're, like, welcoming and you're confident, and so I think that's amazing.
Jenna
Yeah. And even if it's awkward, it doesn't matter.
Kalila
That's a really great hack that I. Because I'm really anxious everywhere. Right. But when I learned to introduce myself very early on, as opposed to, like, waiting around to see if someone will, like.
Jenna
Yeah, it's hard.
Kalila
It kind of. It took away a lot of, like, my nerves where it's like, okay, I. I did what I did, and the rest is. The rest.
Esther
They don't have to like it, or it's like, whatever. But you just.
Jenna
Now, I don't want them to like it now.
Esther
You were like a gentleman.
Jenna
Yeah.
Esther
You did your part in this social. Let's see if this experiment that we call life.
Jenna
If you're a green flag or red flag, will you take my pieces and put them somewhere? Green flag. Oh, you don't have to put them. That's a red flag. You can just put them on the table.
Esther
Because then when she's doing your laundry, when you guys are married, she's going to be having to dig through your pockets for garbage.
Jaime
We're hoping you guys could help with.
Kalila
Like, a little date simulation here and.
Jaime
Coach Jaime through, like, a pickup up and a dinner.
Jenna
Oh, we're going to coach you through a date here.
Kalila
We're not.
Jenna
Dude, you're going to get.
Esther
You're not doing any coaching.
Kalila
You're. You're just.
Esther
You're on the There.
Kalila
You're being pursued.
Jaime
You're the victim.
Kalila
Where are we?
Jenna
Hang on.
Kalila
Is he hitting on her for the first time or they're going on a date?
Jaime
We could start with the pickup line first.
Jenna
Yeah. Like, so you've already asked this person out on a date?
Esther
No. No. What. What's your pickup line?
Kalila
I'm hiring my Garcia.
Jenna
And be genuine. Be genuine.
Jaime
I don't. So when I do pick up lines.
Kalila
You're dancing at a club. That's great. He goes to clubs is why.
Jaime
Yeah, I'm not going to that? No. No. I don't know, because I've been thinking about this. Like, I don't really have pickup lines because I'm always trying to be funny and it never works, but that's funny.
Kalila
So you're on your way to pick Jenna up for your date, right? What car are you picking her up in?
Jaime
My car.
Kalila
Okay. Okay.
Jaime
2016 for escape.
Jenna
Love it, Love it. Yeah, it's great.
Jaime
I might need to get. Get it detailed.
Kalila
But what about if you live on the west side? She lives the opposite way, and the restaurant is also the opposite way.
Jaime
Like, on my side.
Jenna
Like, let's say you live on the west side.
Kalila
It's like rush hour traffic. Rush hour LA traffic. Oh, you picking her up?
Jaime
Yeah.
Kalila
Okay, green flag. What restaurant are you taking her to?
Jaime
What restaurant would you like to go?
Jenna
Thank you. I was just gonna say. Oh, you better ask.
Kalila
Ask.
Jenna
But you're still gonna plan, so maybe you have some options now.
Kalila
Tell them your food restrictions.
Jenna
I say, hey.
Esther
Yeah, Stop saying, I say be in it.
Jenna
Let's do.
Kalila
Let's act.
Jenna
Like if the director just walked in.
Kalila
Go.
Esther
We're not here.
Kalila
Okay.
Jenna
Hey. So I have some dietary restrictions, though. That can be really super annoying.
Jaime
But I also need a banana. My bad.
Kalila
Bad.
Jenna
If it's a problem. And that's.
Jaime
No, it's annoying.
Jenna
I understand why it would be annoying.
Jaime
No, it's fine. What's your diet?
Jenna
It's not a diet. I have allergies.
Jaime
What is your allergies?
Jenna
It's actual allergies, like EpiPen. It's real allergies.
Jaime
Oh. What do you have?
Jenna
I'm allergic to apples, carrots, peaches, plums, jackfruit. Apples I can have when they're cooked, but I can't have them when they're raw. Carrots. I can have them when they're cooking. Cooked, but not when they're raw because they change molecular structure.
Jaime
Okay.
Jenna
Yeah. Are you writing? I know it's a lot. Do you want me to just send you a text of all the allergies?
Jaime
No, no. Can you eat seafood?
Jenna
I love seafood.
Jaime
You like steak?
Jenna
I can't eat steak.
Jaime
Okay, what's. What's another.
Jenna
Well, you said seafood and then you said steak. They're two different things.
Jaime
Surf and turf.
Jenna
Huh?
Jaime
Surf and turf. I don't know what that is.
Jenna
I don't know what that is.
Jaime
I think it's like steak and shrimp.
Jenna
Hold on.
Jaime
No, no, no. Don't call your ex.
Jenna
So then I would put that on mute, and I would be like Esther Kalila. Like, he's. He just.
Esther
No, no, we're not here. Stop it.
Jenna
Oh, so now you're not here.
Jaime
Hey, what's up? I lost you there for a minute.
Jenna
No, that was my mom.
Jaime
Oh, okay. How is she doing?
Jenna
She's okay. So, yeah, I don't know what surf and turf is, but I. I like seafood. So maybe if we can do something with that, I can give you the options that I can eat and then you can find the place, because I'm not.
Jaime
Hey, listen, baby, look.
Jenna
Oh, listen, I don't like that. No, no, I don't like that you just called me baby. Like, we're not like.
Jaime
Listen, maybe.
Kalila
Oh.
Jenna
Oh, you have a speech impediment. That's so cute. I love a speech impediment.
Jaime
So, listen, maybe we can. Maybe we can get some options going on and we can choose whatever. Which. Whatever you're into.
Esther
Come up with some options.
Jenna
Yeah, bro, I just told you what I can eat, what I'm into.
Kalila
Help him out about Connie and Ted's, maybe.
Jaime
Oh, yeah. I don't know any reference in that league.
Esther
Ask her if she wants to go to Connie and Ted's.
Jenna
You're not here.
Esther
Stay in it. He needs help.
Jenna
I needed help. Stay.
Kalila
Loretta. Loretta.
Jenna
Oh, this is.
Jaime
You want sushi? No. You like sushi?
Jenna
Yeah, I like sushi.
Kalila
Or sugar fish.
Jaime
Sugar fish?
Kalila
Excuse me?
Jaime
Oh, it's okay.
Jenna
I love sugar fish.
Jaime
Sugar fish. I can make a reservation for two.
Jenna
Sugar fish. Works for me because I don't take reservations.
Kalila
Yeah, you just. How about we do takeout and, like, I'll go to a park or something.
Jaime
Oh, we can. We. So listen, we can take it up. Are you doing something? I hear Rush? Rush.
Kalila
Wrestling.
Jenna
You're trying to say wrestling, not wrestling. Is it your speech impediment? Because I love it.
Jaime
Yeah, we can get sugarfish and then taken out and go to the park or something.
Jenna
No, restaurant. Okay, so how is that gonna work?
Esther
Okay, fast forward.
Kalila
We're at the restaurant.
Esther
Have you ever been to Sugarfish?
Kalila
This is bad sushi. It's very plain rice. It's nice. It's like.
Jaime
Okay.
Esther
Hello, welcome to Sugarfish. Hi, my name is Lisa.
Kalila
Backup server, Kila.
Esther
She's. I'm training her, so she'll be following around.
Jenna
Did you say Malaysia?
Kalila
Malaysia?
Jaime
Yes, Malaysia.
Esther
I'm training her. She's my. Okay.
Jenna
You're doing a great job.
Kalila
Thank you so much.
Esther
Are you. Is this a first date?
Jaime
Be here for an hour.
Jenna
Have you guys been rude? Don't like that.
Esther
Have you guys been Here before. Are you first timers?
Jaime
I'm a first timer.
Jenna
I've been here before. A couple red flags there. I'm going to say the red flag of with who and the red. Red flag of like, not being super kind to the.
Kalila
I don't think that's a red flag. That's so funny what you just did. If some guy said with who in that way, but if he was so.
Jenna
Hard, but if he was serious, then.
Kalila
I'm like, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Esther
Step back. You're right.
Jenna
Oh, I don't like how there'd be double stanzers.
Esther
Okay, so, okay, you've been here before. Any questions about the menu? Would you. Who will be. Will you be ordering for everyone or.
Kalila
I'm already laughing. Sorry.
Esther
You know, h. Like hates sushi.
Jenna
He does. That's a red flag.
Jaime
No.
Kalila
Okay, let's take. Okay, go.
Esther
What can I get.
Jenna
Can't tell me what a red flag is or not.
Jaime
It's not a red flag.
Esther
What can I get you?
Kalila
Can I get you what?
Jaime
Hello, Can I get two California? Well, you want California rolls?
Jenna
I'll order for myself, thank you.
Jaime
Okay.
Kalila
California.
Jaime
Oh, no. What you like.
Esther
They don't have California rolls.
Kalila
They don't.
Esther
Do you want, like, a crab roll?
Jaime
Can you get my friend.
Kalila
I'll give you. Here's yellow tail albacore.
Jaime
You like yellow?
Esther
You know, it seems like the. The lady is ready to order first. Would you like to order?
Jenna
Yeah, sure. I'll just order first, then you can have time to think about it.
Esther
Okay.
Jenna
Okay, I'm going to order the yellow. Whatever it's called. You take me. I take you.
Esther
The Trust Me.
Kalila
Yes.
Esther
That's our most popular.
Jenna
I would like the Trust me. I would like light or regular.
Esther
Are you skinny or fat? Okay, you're fat, fat, fat.
Jenna
I'll take the double regular.
Jaime
Okay.
Jenna
Of the Trust me.
Esther
Can you afford this?
Jaime
Yeah.
Esther
Okay.
Jenna
And instead of the crab, because I know that you can substitute with the crab, I'll substitute yellow tail. We will allow that is the substitution that is allowed?
Esther
Yes.
Jenna
No, not just this time. I know. Oh, wait, you're the waitress. I wouldn't talk. Oh, I get that all the time.
Esther
Yeah, no, we got you.
Jenna
Okay.
Esther
Okay.
Jaime
I'll have the same.
Esther
You'll have the same?
Jaime
Yes.
Jenna
Okay. Can we have just some extra ginger and extra lemon on the side, please?
Kalila
Of course.
Jaime
Can I get a water with lemon?
Esther
Yes, yes.
Jenna
And I'll have a water with no ice, please. No.
Esther
Okay. Anything else to drink?
Jaime
Salad.
Esther
We don't have kale salad.
Jenna
Oh, yeah, no, thank you.
Esther
Any sake or.
Jenna
I don't drink. Thank you.
Jaime
I don't drink.
Jenna
He doesn't drink either.
Esther
Oh, wow.
Jaime
Yeah, a couple of old timers, you know.
Esther
Oh, you're a couple?
Jaime
Not yet, hopefully. You know, I'm wishing for it and praying for it, like, God, please. See, I got her flowers.
Jenna
That's funny.
Kalila
You know, Trini, we've actually brought you some Seasonal.
Esther
Wrong table.
Kalila
Idiot.
Esther
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Kalila
Seasonal. And this one has apple and carrots and a couple nuts in it. And it compliments from the chef. We'd like you to try some.
Jenna
Thank you so much.
Jaime
Thank you so much. This what I do now?
Jenna
Now you're obviously going to eat it because I can't eat it. Acknowledge I'm allergic.
Esther
Remember what she. What she said was in it.
Jaime
I was not listening. I was looking at my beautiful date.
Kalila
Okay, here you go. Compliments from the chef. Apple nuts.
Jaime
Oh, I'll have it.
Kalila
Soy.
Jaime
Oh, okay.
Kalila
Okay.
Jaime
I'll eat it for you.
Esther
Why?
Jaime
Because she's allergic to apples.
Esther
He was listening. Kind of.
Jaime
I was distracted by your eyes, but I still listen.
Kalila
Okay.
Esther
Well, it looks like you guys, you loved your food. You ate it all. I'm surprised. Wow.
Jaime
Yeah, it was pretty good.
Esther
You didn't eat anything. Hardly. Are you.
Kalila
You.
Esther
Are you okay with what you got?
Jaime
I'm saving for later for midnight snacks when we're watching Netflix and chill.
Kalila
I will.
Esther
I have this HBO match here in my hand.
Jaime
Yes. Can we go? You coming home with me? Yeah.
Jenna
Split it.
Jaime
Yeah. No. You coming home with me? Okay. I'll take the whole chat.
Jenna
Okay. Couple red flags here. Here.
Esther
What did you say?
Jenna
You don't say Netflix and Chill and Real.
Jaime
I don't know. I don't.
Kalila
He knows.
Jaime
Say HBO Max. HBO Max is 34 right now. So you better enjoy this for the whole year. No, a month.
Jenna
Oh, my God.
Jaime
So you better enjoy this movie, whatever movie I put on.
Jenna
Okay.
Jaime
They just put weapons on. That's pretty cool.
Esther
Does any. Do you need parking validation?
Jaime
I'll take care of it.
Esther
Oh, you don't need parking validation.
Kalila
You're just gonna drive up.
Esther
You want to pay full price. Price to show off.
Jaime
Yeah.
Jenna
It's not attractive.
Kalila
I like it.
Jaime
There's a lot of parking, ventilation.
Kalila
One of the things that Bobby, Literally the best thing ever, especially in like, LA parking, whatever, is that he bypasses all valet, all parking. He gives the guy $100. Park my car in the very, very front so I can walk in, walk out. You don't have to do anything, but just park it in the closest spot. Spot.
Jenna
Okay, well, that's different than being like. You have validation. But I don't want to take it.
Kalila
Yeah, but I think that it really is.
Jenna
Oh, green flag.
Jaime
Oh, sorry. What are you drinking?
Jenna
Hojicha.
Jaime
Is that for your clinch? I'm just curious. I just been curious about everything.
Jenna
I love your curiosity.
Esther
Okay, we're in the car. We just got outside Jenna's place.
Jaime
Listen, I had a. I had a cool time. Time. Fun time with you. You're very cool hang.
Jenna
Thanks. Yeah, I had a great time too. I love sugarfish. Maybe we can go again.
Jaime
Yeah, I don't think so. I'm just playing. Yeah, we are getting laughs. And I really like hope we can go on a second date somewhere else. Not a movie theater day because, you know, we need to talk more about ourselves. So picnic in a park or. Or on the beach or Venice beach or something gay like that.
Esther
Okay, cut. Flash forward, too.
Jenna
I'm pregnant.
Esther
No, you guys are meeting the family. Oh, and Kalila and I are Jenna's mom and dad. You can be my dad.
Kalila
We already know I'm dad.
Esther
I'm Jenna's mom, and Kyla is Jenna's dad and she's introducing you to us.
Jaime
Okay. Okay, ready? So this is for your mom.
Jenna
Oh, she doesn't like flowers.
Jaime
Well, this is gonna like.
Kalila
Hello.
Jaime
Hi.
Kalila
Hi.
Esther
Hi.
Jenna
Hi, Poppy.
Kalila
Hi.
Jenna
This is my mommy. This is my puppy.
Esther
Oh, no, thank you.
Jenna
This is Jaime.
Jaime
Can I kill myself?
Jenna
Oh, my dad will take it.
Kalila
I'll take it. Thank you.
Jaime
Who's your dad? How you doing?
Kalila
Hola, sir. Beautiful Dolla Dolla. Beautiful Dolla.
Jaime
Beautiful daughter.
Jenna
You got a beautiful dog there.
Jaime
Beautiful daughter. It's my speech impediment.
Esther
Oh, Jaime, where are you from?
Jaime
I'm from Texas, but I just moved out here to California.
Esther
And what are your intentions with our daughter?
Jenna
My mom would never ask that. My dad.
Esther
I'm a different mom.
Jenna
Oh, okay.
Esther
I'm not playing your real mom. I'm. If I don't own my own character.
Jenna
I've been working on. Got it. I'm working on my character.
Esther
What are your intentions with my beautiful daughter Jenna?
Jaime
Daughter?
Jenna
Yeah.
Esther
Yeah.
Jaime
We've been seeing for each other for a couple months now, and I really like spending time with her. So, like, you know, have you guys had sex? Have you had sex? Have we had.
Kalila
Hold on. Look at. Look at the dad.
Jaime
No, I mean, we're adults. We are adults. Yeah. We have our time.
Jenna
Yeah, we're not there yet.
Jaime
Oh.
Esther
Do you see a future with her?
Jaime
Yeah, I can see a future with her.
Esther
What about. How do you feel about her being 10 years older than you?
Jaime
Ages, Age doesn't matter to me. Pretty sure know what I want now.
Kalila
You know, what do you. What do you do for a living?
Jaime
I'm a podcaster and a comedian. Stand up comedian.
Kalila
Does that get you benefits?
Jaime
Benefits?
Kalila
Like health insurance?
Jaime
I can get you backstage. Oh, health insurance. I can get health insurance.
Esther
You're a doctor backstage.
Jaime
Can I. I can get. I can get benefits.
Esther
Jaime, do want you. You want kids?
Jaime
Yeah, I can see, like, a little. Little Jenna, Jaime, like five or six of them running around.
Kalila
Wow.
Jaime
You know, little Jamies, you know, for you. For you guys. Grandkids. You want grandkids?
Kalila
I would love nothing more than five or six grandkids, truly. And that's, like, my real answer.
Esther
She wrote character.
Kalila
Like, that's all I wanted.
Jaime
How do you guys think Jaime did?
Kalila
I think I would give you, like, a. A C plus.
Jenna
A C plus, which is good because it's not bad. There were a lot of good things working, but there are, like, specific areas where you can maybe improve. I would say, overall, like, your energy is very good, and that's, like my number one. Like, if the energy ain't right, it's. There's nothing you could do to save yourself. Myself, I'm being Jenna now. There's nothing you could do. There's no money that could buy me anything. There's no time that you could take us somewhere. There's no trip. There's no words if your energy isn't right.
Esther
So you like his energy?
Jenna
Yeah. Your energy is good.
Jaime
Thank you.
Jenna
Seems like you're comfortable. You're open to suggestions. You're open to being corrected.
Jaime
I messed up.
Jenna
What?
Kalila
Are you good?
Jenna
Hyman?
Jaime
No, the gum in my hoodie. Now it's everywhere.
Kalila
Well, we told you.
Jenna
Why did you put the gum in your hoodie?
Kalila
Because you guys, like, snarled at him when he tried to put it on the table.
Jenna
I told him to put it on the table.
Kalila
Also, I know his hands are stuck inside. Oh, no.
Esther
I never told you.
Jenna
I never told you to not eat it. I just wanted. I thought it was dip. I never said don't eat it, so that you were assuming that I was saying not to eat gum. Instead of getting clarification, put it bare.
Esther
Naked in your pocket.
Jaime
I thought it was gonna be a ball, but okay.
Jenna
A. It's material, though, and that you need help.
Kalila
What's it really use?
Jenna
Ice. It gets it hard, and then you'll crack it off.
Jaime
You know, my roommate's mad at me right now.
Kalila
Who's mad at you?
Jaime
My roommate.
Kalila
Why?
Jaime
Because I love Karina. Yeah, she was at her mom's and I was taking off to la. She told me to take out the trash because I take out the trash. I was in a hurry, but I was in a hurry and I left it. So when she got back from like her weekend with her mom stunk, I was like. And I had like dinner, like Hot Pockets and. And I burnt waffles.
Jenna
Red flag.
Jaime
It was Eggo waffles.
Kalila
You and your Eggos.
Esther
Oh, you.
Jaime
You want to hear a debate?
Kalila
Yeah.
Jaime
Tell me who's right or wrong. Because I asked Bobby and the guys and they're saying, oh, she's wrong.
Jenna
Maybe don't tell us who's who. Just tell us the different sides so we can give you a genuine answer.
Jaime
So my roommate, she was out doing.
Kalila
Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, it's too much to ask.
Jaime
Okay, so it was Saturday. She. She goes out with her mom for lunch and stuff. Stuff. So she. She's out all day. I'm at home just watching tv. I cook frozen waffles. Right. Home style.
Esther
Okay.
Jaime
Waffles.
Jenna
Like you make them by hand? No. Oh, so you just. So you toast them?
Jaime
I toast frozen waffles that I cook. Oh, I toasted. Well, frozen waffles. Right. Eggos. Right. And that's all I ate. In the morning, she comes home for dinner, she's like, what did you eat for breakfast? And I said, oh, I had frozen waffles. And she's like, no, you didn't. You just had waffles. Don't say frozen waffles. Just say waffles. But I was like, they're frozen waffles. Right? Am I wrong?
Jenna
I mean, they weren't frozen when you ate them. And also I guess when I eat bread and it's in the freezer, I don't say I ate frozen bread. I just say I had bread because it defrosted.
Jaime
Yeah.
Esther
And you're saying she's right.
Jenna
No, I'm saying that I see both sides now. I thought that he was right at first, cuz I'm like, why would you.
Jaime
Say anything other than the pre frozen by toast them? But they're Eggos. Everybody knows they're frozen waffles. Right?
Jenna
Yeah, I think you're right. When it comes to waffles, it is different because there's like frozen waffles and there's freshly prepared waffles.
Jaime
So yeah, she's saying like, if I Woke up, made a batter, and then made. Made it from scratch. Waffles. But that's not true, right?
Jenna
Yeah. So she's saying, don't say frozen waffles. Why?
Jaime
Because it's not. They're not frozen.
Jenna
Well, obviously they're not frozen when you eat them. But they're for, like. There's a section at the grocery store called frozen foods. You don't eat when you eat them. They're not frozen, but they're frozen foods.
Esther
Well, she just has the ick for you.
Kalila
Yeah. You're doomed, dude.
Jaime
Right?
Kalila
That's like, such a thing. I would say on, like, a bad, like, luteal day where I'm just like, why can't you just say waffles?
Jenna
I would say.
Jaime
So who's right?
Jenna
Well, I'm very about accuracy, right. I like things to be accurate. And so I'm having trouble with this one because they are frozen foods. Okay?
Esther
Oh, my God.
Jenna
In the world.
Esther
No, in the world, people say frozen foods.
Jenna
However, the accuracy and very literal. When you eat them, they're not frozen. So I'm understanding.
Esther
Punch her in the face.
Jaime
Tofu her.
Kalila
I don't have the energy.
Esther
Finger her ass.
Kalila
Let me toggle your. You guys have little confetti bottles next.
Jaime
To you and champagne glasses.
Esther
I'm scared.
Kalila
I'm scared.
Jenna
Okay, what do I do?
Jaime
Pop it?
Esther
No. Yeah, this.
Kalila
Oh, this part I see now. There's a ridge there.
Jaime
Are you sure it's this side?
Kalila
No, it's this side. Jaime, hold it and then twist the top. This is the top.
Esther
Nine, eight.
Jaime
I love that.
Jenna
Seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.
Esther
Happy New Year.
Kalila
It came out the other side, so.
Jenna
You have to twist it this way, but hold it this way.
Esther
I broke mine. Happy New Year.
Jaime
You want to share a kiss?
Jenna
Good. Thank you.
Esther
Everybody kiss their crush.
Jenna
Esther, are you going to kiss me?
Esther
I have to choose between you, you pluggies. Thank you so much for another amazing year together. I cannot believe we did it again. Kila. We've. We've stuck. We've stuck it out.
Kalila
Stuck it out through thick and thin. This was a thick and thin year, and we stuck it out particularly thick.
Esther
We never know what life is going to throw at us with. With. Which is in any which way. But sluggies, we could not time it.
Jaime
You said you don't know what life's gonna throw at us.
Esther
We could not have done it without you. We love love you guys and we.
Jenna
Are wishing you a happy, healthy, hopeful new year.
Esther
Yes. To everyone. Goodbye.
Jaime
Have a lot of sex, Hook up.
In this celebratory year-end episode of Trash Tuesday, hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn are joined by Jenna Jimenez and guest Jaime Garcia for a hilarious, chaotic, and surprisingly heartfelt conversation. The group reflects on their personal highs and lows of 2025, discusses New Year’s traditions, delves into rejection, confidence, dating, and even stages a playful "dating simulator" with Jaime and Jenna—all while keeping up their signature self-deprecating, candid, and loving trash talk. This episode offers both laughs and honest moments about growth, friendship, disappointments, and the messy realities of life and relationships.
Jaime Garcia Joins (Flowers for Jenna!)
Sober Journey
Older Women Dating
Rejection Stories
“Thank you so much for another amazing year together…I cannot believe we did it again.” – Esther (71:04)