Jason Cheny VS Jenna Jimenez

Summary

Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: Jason Cheny VS Jenna Jimenez
Release Date: July 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively “Girls’ Day” episode of Trash Tuesday, Esther and Khalyla are joined by returning favorites Jason Cheny and Jenna Jimenez. The group dives into classic Trash Tuesday territory: dissecting the differences between hot and iced coffee drinkers (and what that reveals about relationships and personalities), summer fashion trends, the chaos of time management for ADHD adults, the value (and difficulty) of real human connection in the digital age, and their collective longing for simplicity in a world that prizes hustle and spectacle. Stay tuned for tangents on parenting, World Cup controversies, and a raucous round of Jenga Truth-or-Dare.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Hot vs. Iced Coffee Relationship Theory

[06:10 - 09:18]

• Esther’s Theory: A successful relationship, according to Esther, requires one hot coffee drinker and one iced coffee drinker. "For a relationship to be successful, only one person can drink iced coffee, and the other person has to be a hot coffee person. ...Two iced coffee drinkers, it would be explosive. A nightmare." (Esther, [06:29])
• The coffee preference supposedly signals personality traits—hot coffee drinkers are practical, frugal, and serious, while iced coffee lovers are free-spirited and creative.
• The group analyzes their own lives and relationships by these metrics, mostly agreeing that there’s “something there.”

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2. Complimenting Men vs. Women

[03:24 - 05:32]

• Jenna’s Rant: “When you tell a dude they're hot, they're like dope. They’re not worried for their life.”
• The group jokes about double standards and how women’s compliments to men aren’t perceived as threatening, whereas for women, such comments can feel unsafe.
• Jenna: “It's called your opinion because you're sexist against women. Yes.” ([05:32])
• Playful victim-blaming roleplay with Jason, as the "hot guy" in the group, which spirals into jokes about podcast soundbites.

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3. ADHD, Time Management & Calendars

[09:10 - 13:25]

• Jenna details her evolution from “no guardrails” to being a “three calendar bitch,” sharing her strategies for managing ADHD.
• Esther admits her over-awareness of time: “If you ask me any time of day and I haven't seen a clock for hours, like I will be within two minutes.” ([11:29])
• The crew laughs about how neurodiversity shapes their lives and habits in contrasting ways.

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4. Summer Fashion: The Gandolfini Look

[14:13 - 20:35]

• The “hot girl summer” aesthetic: James Gandolfini’s white t-shirt, long shorts, and bandana is the new look.
  • "This is how all hot girls are dressing all over New York and L.A." (Esther, [15:26])
• The appeal: Relaxed, carefree “dad fits” on women are now officially cool.
• Jason shares his take: "I think women are beautiful. ...If it's covered up, whatever you wear is nice. ...If it's a little bit of a mystery cover up and then we're like, oh, what's under it?" ([17:23])

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5. Nostalgia & Connection: The 90s Hangout Challenge

[21:06 - 25:34]

• Esther introduces the trending idea of a 90s-style meet-up: No phones, pre-determined plans, “just exist and have fun.”
• Khalyla reminisces: “There’s. I miss going to a place, ...not giving a [damn] about taking a photo, anything. ...You just existed and it was fun.” ([22:00])
• The group discusses the discomfort of silences now filled by phones, and social anxiety tied to always “adding value” in conversation.

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6. Social Butterflies, Wallflowers & Conversation Cards

[25:25 - 29:44]

• Khalyla: "In a social setting, you'll think that I am a social butterfly, but that's because ...I feel pressure to keep the conversation going because why? I'm uncomfortable." ([25:02])
• Esther shares a “bored, boring comedian” moment where she resorts to “conversation-starter cards” with her partner at home.
• They debate the merits and shame around such “artificial” intimacy aids.

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7. Perfect Day Fantasies

[36:10 - 44:52]

• Jenna: Her fantasy centers on health, being pain/migraine-free, and simple joys (“a well-formed poop, AC at 64, parents healthy”).
  • “I just want to feel good in my body. ...I feel like I've been happy ...in the shittiest places.” ([38:55])
• Khalyla: Yearns for tranquil, eczema-free days in Hawai’i/the Philippines, focused on family and peace.
  • “Healing is in the boredom.”—a therapist’s wisdom she shares, reflecting a shift from a formerly chaotic life. ([43:41])
• Esther: Jokes her perfect day would be, "I wake up, Jenna's locked in a hot cage. I go back to bed." ([41:11])

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8. The Trump & World Cup Tangent

[45:19 - 47:20]

• Jenna rants about Trump’s interference in the U.S. soccer team’s red card—mocking his “narcissistic parent” behavior.
• "It's like, you know, when you're a parent, you have to allow your children to fail, and you have to allow them to find their own solutions in life..." ([46:47])

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9. Jenga Truth-or-Dare & Notable Improv Moments

[47:40 - End]

• The group plays Jenga with truth/dare challenges.
  • Jenna and Jason hilariously reenact the iconic scene from The Notebook ([48:30]).
  • Discussion about lap dances, artistic failures, and a surprise phone call to Jenna’s father, with guest Bobby Lee picking up. Unfiltered comedy ensues.
  • Bobby: “He [Jason] looks like...the Asian version of that black man from the Pixar movie Soul.” ([57:56])
  • Jenna: “He did you dirty, but very funny man and very kind.” ([58:16])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jenna (on complimenting men):

  “When you tell a dude they're hot, they're like dope. They're not like, oh, she's gonna come and sit on my face and I won't be able to breathe.” ([03:51])

• Esther (on time awareness):

  “If you ask me any time of day and I haven't seen a clock for hours, like I will be within two minutes. ...I don't think it's good 'cause I'm not free. I'm not in a flow state.” ([11:29])

• Kalila (on simplicity):

  “Healing is in the boredom.” ([43:41])

• Jason (on fashion and mystery):

  “However you dress, you’re beautiful already. So if it’s like a little bit of a mystery cover up and then we’re like, oh, what’s under it?” ([19:17])

• Khalyla (on conversation pressure):

  “In a social setting, you'll think that I am a social butterfly, but that's because ...I feel pressure to ...keep the conversation going because why? I'm uncomfortable.” ([25:02])

• Bobby Lee (on Jason):

  “He looks like...the Asian version of that black man from the Pixar movie Soul.” ([57:56])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:24] Complimenting men vs. women / gender dynamics
• [06:10] Esther's iced coffee theory & personality traits
• [09:10] ADHD, calendars, and time management
• [14:13] Summer fashion (“the Gandolfini look”)
• [21:06] The 90s hangout challenge: anti-phone nostalgia
• [25:25] Social anxiety & conversation crutches
• [36:10] Dreaming up “perfect days”
• [43:41] “Healing is in the boredom” & the search for simplicity
• [45:19] World Cup, Trump, and “narcissistic parenting”
• [47:40] Jenga Truth-or-Dare, phone calls, improv antics

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers classic Trash Tuesday fun, with sharp observations about modern relationships, friendship, self-acceptance, and finding happiness in life's smaller moments. The crew moves fluidly from hilariously petty jabs (“Jenna in a hot cage”) to wholesome real talk (longing for simple, phone-free joy and healthy bodies). Between games, confessions, and digressions, the episode captures Trash Tuesday’s unique blend of unfiltered humor, vulnerability, and chaos.

For more, catch the next Trash Tuesday – and if you’re curious, check out Jason Cheny’s tour updates!

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Find the hosts and show:

• Trash Tuesday Instagram
• Esther Povitsky
• Khalyla Kuhn
• Jason Cheny

Transcript

[Kalila]

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[Jenna]

what are you doing right now?

[Bobby]

Okay, am I on air?

[Jenna]

There's air in the world.

[Bobby]

No being recorded right now.

[Jenna]

I just wanted to tell you that you're handsome.

[Bobby]

Am I being recorded right now?

[Jenna]

You're not being recorded, but you're on Trash Tuesday.

[Bobby]

Yeah, that's being re recorded.

[Esther Povitsky]

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[Kalila]

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[Esther Povitsky]

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[Jenna]

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[Esther Povitsky]

Jason, I'm sorry. You're here on girls day.

[Jason Cheney]

I love it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Really?

[Kalila]

I know. I don't think you know what you're in for.

[Jenna]

It's just us squirrels.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, really?

[Kalila]

Yeah. Because I really wanted to bring up the last conversation the three of us had, which involves heavy pubes.

[Jenna]

No.

[Kalila]

Okay.

[Jenna]

I was just gonna talk about that because I was thinking this morning in the shower because some of my pubes are like.

[Kalila]

Give him the backstory.

[Esther Povitsky]

First of all, he's married.

[Jenna]

Okay? I'm basically married, too. You know what? This is the thing that I can't stand. Let me just start with this, people. First off, you're hot, okay? And that's fine.

[Esther Povitsky]

I knew that was coming. Okay?

[Jenna]

This is what piss pisses me off. People act as if you can't tell someone that they're hot. And let me tell you, it's because men have ruined it. Because when men say that women are hot, they feel like they're targeted, like they might be followed home, like they might be in danger, like they are going to get attacked. When you tell a dude they're hot, they're like dope. They're not like, oh, she's gonna come and sit on my face and I won't be able to breathe. Like, they're not worried for their life.

[Esther Povitsky]

Say that.

[Jenna]

Esther, keep eating. Okay? Cuz you riled me up.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I think that objectively, I do think it's very safe when a girl's like, hey, you're really attractive. There's no actual, like, connected burning desire in my mind.

[Jason Cheney]

It's like, you appreciate the aesthetic.

[Esther Povitsky]

Let's hear from the victim.

[Kalila]

Okay.

[Bobby]

Yes.

[Jason Cheney]

Okay.

[Jenna]

I don't want you saying he's got a wife. I basically got a husband, too.

[Kalila]

I really need to hear your victim testimony.

[Jenna]

Yeah. How did you feel?

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, wait, wait. So wait, wait, what's happening?

[Jenna]

So basically what I was, is I was like, you're. You just want me to say it again? I had said that you were hot, and Esther jumped in. He's got a wife.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, I see. I see, I see.

[Jenna]

As if.

[Jason Cheney]

I think there's a way to say that. But then the way you said it is like, oh, is that like, this water bottle is a good, nice one?

[Jenna]

Yeah. Like, oh, I like that pillow that you have.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, I like that. Exactly. Yeah.

[Jenna]

It's not like you are an object. Yeah, like I'm objectifying you.

[Jason Cheney]

But in a. Yeah, but it's nice,

[Jenna]

but yeah, not in a.

[Jason Cheney]

What is the. What's the premise of this?

[Esther Povitsky]

Lawyer up.

[Jenna]

The premise is Esther goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's got a wife. As if.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, I see that.

[Jenna]

To wife you up. Marry you.

[Jason Cheney]

But this is for the.

[Jenna]

Have sex with you.

[Jason Cheney]

But this is for the clips. No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it's called a podcast.

[Jenna]

It's called your opinion because you're sexist against women. Yes.

[Kalila]

I hear genocide.

[Esther Povitsky]

Anyways, welcome to Trash Tuesday.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm your host.

[Kalila]

Sorry, that took a while.

[Esther Povitsky]

Mother Furby.

[Jenna]

He's like, what is going on?

[Jason Cheney]

No, I like it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Today's guest, we have. Jenna is back.

[Jenna]

Hi.

[Esther Povitsky]

And we have our fan favorite, our beloved Jason Chaney is back. Did I say your last name right?

[Jason Cheney]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Jenna]

Is it Chenny or Cheney?

[Jason Cheney]

Chenny.

[Jenna]

Chenny. So you said it wrong.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Jenna]

But he wasn't gonna correct you.

[Jason Cheney]

I don't mind it.

[Esther Povitsky]

He should have cracked him.

[Jason Cheney]

I have no self respect.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's okay. People call me Esther, and I still just let them do it because I have a silent H in my name. Oh, you guys, I have a theory that I need to test out on everyone here. It's called the Esther Povitzky iced coffee relationship theory. Who's ready?

[Jason Cheney]

Me.

[Jenna]

We have no choice.

[Esther Povitsky]

So I think that for a relationship to be successful, only one person can drink iced coffee, and the other person has to be a hot coffee person. The way that you drink your coffee says so much about you.

[Jason Cheney]

That's very true.

[Esther Povitsky]

And that those, like, two iced coffee drinkers, it would be explosive. It would be a nightmare. Like, it would never.

[Kalila]

Or even too hot.

[Jason Cheney]

No, no, no, wait, no. But if it's two ice lattes, it's fine.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no.

[Jason Cheney]

Two ice latte. Not cool.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, not. That's ice cold milk. One person has to have a hot latte and one person has to have a ice latte. Are you.

[Jenna]

But what if their order is a little different? Like iced oat milk latte.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then. You guys. What?

[Kalila]

I. You're not clear to me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Here is the Esther Pavitsky iced coffee relationship.

[Jason Cheney]

That's what we're trying to ask you about. Details.

[Esther Povitsky]

And you guys are.

[Jenna]

We're getting clarity from the connoisseur.

[Esther Povitsky]

What does iced coffee mean?

[Jenna]

It means just. Just coffee with ice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Ice drink, coffee drink, Cold drink, hot drink. Thank you.

[Kalila]

There we go.

[Jenna]

It's important to do studies before you get out there in the world.

[Kalila]

I was a. I was a tutor. We gotta, you know, bring it down to the basics. Cold or hot?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. I feel like a hot coffee drinker. They're like more practical, they're frugal, they're just more serious in life. Whereas an iced coffee drinker, like, they're more carefree. You know, they. They're creative, they're free spirited.

[Jenna]

I think you're right. I really wanted to say that you were wrong.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know you did.

[Jenna]

But I'm thinking about my life and like my dad. My dad is hot coffee. That is it. That's all he wants. Maybe some cream and sugar. Hot r. My partner.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just a hot coffee and.

[Kalila]

Oh, Aloha is just hot and black. Not the man himself. Yeah, he's just very basic hot coffee guy. I don't think I've ever seen him. I think I would. Ick me out if I saw that kind of man with an iced drink, actually.

[Esther Povitsky]

Jason, are you awfully quiet, dude?

[Jason Cheney]

Aloha is also. He's like a practical and frugal.

[Kalila]

He's very like practical, like, how do you say, like salt of the earth.

[Jason Cheney]

Whoa.

[Kalila]

Kind of.

[Jason Cheney]

Dude, I never thought about the hot cold thing. And then because my mom is a hot coffee drinker and she's like, really frugal and.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, I never thought about it.

[Kalila]

She's serious.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, she's very serious.

[Kalila]

Yeah. And cold is very, like, silly. Right?

[Jenna]

Wait, but hold on.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, you know, I don't like to

[Jenna]

put any cold into my body, though. It doesn't feel right. Chinese medicine says Jenna's Chinese again today. Okay, so. But that doesn't really match up with my personality. I'm not really an iced latte girly, but my personality says otherwise.

[Esther Povitsky]

But you drink iced coffee.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, I love it.

[Jenna]

Look at what is sitting next to me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you feel like you're a free spirited, crazy person?

[Kalila]

You silly boy?

[Esther Povitsky]

Silly boy.

[Jason Cheney]

I'm a silly boy. But I feel like most of it. Most of it's silly, but some, like. I have a calendar. Is that something.

[Jenna]

Is that a hot coffee calendar?

[Kalila]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

But that's.

[Esther Povitsky]

Because that's not.

[Jenna]

I don't remember anything that's unorganized. I have, like, a small one and then a bigger size one and then one that goes on my wall.

[Esther Povitsky]

If I recall how the last 15 seconds. 1. I don't think anyone asked you what the differences were you with each calendar.

[Jenna]

I wanted to.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just knowing that you had three. We're all like, stay away from.

[Jenna]

I wanted to try and defend my scared Jason. It sounded worse.

[Jason Cheney]

But. But the thing. If you have, like a big. You have one that's. You could, like, write on.

[Jenna]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

But then you can't transfer that into, like, a digital one, though.

[Jenna]

Oh, yeah. I have on my phone, too. It's because of two things. Because I forget everything that's happening, and so I have to know, if I look in my phone, what if I forget my calendar at home? Or what if I'm at home and I forget my calendar somewhere else? It's on my wall. Adhd.

[Jason Cheney]

I never thought about that.

[Kalila]

You're kind of like a prized ADHD child in that, like, you really set up guardrails for yourself.

[Jenna]

True.

[Kalila]

Where it's like, know thyself, you know yourself. And it's like, I'm a three calendar bitch. I need all three.

[Jenna]

I will tell you why.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I will tell you why. You knew me in college.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I had no guardrails. I had been diagnosed at that point, like, three times. I had been prescribed Ritalin, like, a very high amount, but I didn't want to take it. And I was like, I don't have adhd. It's not a real thing. If you just focus, you can get past it. Not true. So I spent, like eight hours in the library a day, and the same page, reading the same page. And people would be going out and they'd be like, why are you still doing this? And I'm like. Or my study guides would be 24 pages long because I can't discern between important information.

[Esther Povitsky]

See, this is why I liked going to the library with her, because I didn't like to study. But I knew that if I went with her, we weren't gonna study. We were gonna.

[Jenna]

We were gonna dance in the corner. There were times where I was underneath the Table crying because I was like I just to understand how to write a paper. So it's true.

[Esther Povitsky]

I feel like I'm the opposite where it's in a bad way. Where like if you ask me any time of day and I haven't seen a clock for hours, like I will be within two minutes. I will just know the time. Like I'm so dialed in and I don't think it's good cuz I'm like not free. I'm not like in a flow state.

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, you know what time it is Usually, Yeah.

[Jenna]

What time is it?

[Esther Povitsky]

You can't right now.

[Jenna]

I mean this is kind of easy.

[Esther Povitsky]

This is kind of hard because like

[Jenna]

doing the time passes differently in the pod.

[Esther Povitsky]

I feel like it's probably around 11:35.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

11:33.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

11:33.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh my goodness.

[Esther Povitsky]

I always know Wizard.

[Jenna]

Wow.

[Esther Povitsky]

Not feel like you could do that sometimes I can.

[Kalila]

I'm very well aware of time. My body doesn't match my plans like ever. This has been my biggest struggle. It's like I have like big dreams for my day and my body does not like catch up to those dreams.

[Jason Cheney]

Is it stressful though?

[Kalila]

Like and then eight hours and I'm

[Jenna]

still like, do you really want to get petrified in bed?

[Kalila]

But I do know time.

[Esther Povitsky]

Where do you stand or sit knowing the times? Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

I always say like, like an average. If you say 10 minutes out, five minutes is kind of 10 minutes, right?

[Kalila]

What, what.

[Jenna]

Kind of 10 minutes?

[Jason Cheney]

Depending on what it is. Like you're like, oh, I'll see you in five minutes. But it's really like 10 minutes or, or, or two.

[Kalila]

That depends who you talk to, not for her. If you say five minutes and it's not five minutes.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Like when I'm gonna have to be at Esther's house at 3, she sends me text that says 2:59.59. That's the time.

[Jason Cheney]

But do you, do you, do you get mad if.

[Jenna]

Why do you think this is an evil laugh?

[Kalila]

Yeah, she'll. If you're like, if it's right on time and you're not her, she go ETA.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh really?

[Kalila]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

259. 59 is because I'm scared of being alone with my two kids. So I'm like, I need you.

[Kalila]

You've been counting down.

[Jenna]

Also you have such a good sense of time. Like when I watch Esther get ready at her house for somewhere, it's like I don't know what is happening for me in between like getting my water bottle, making my like today to be here at 11:15. I had to wake up at 8. I was like, where did all the time go? And I set a 20 minute timer, a 5 minute timer, a 10 minute timer.

[Kalila]

Hold on.

[Esther Povitsky]

I just really want to protect the male g a second and say, like, a woman has been talking for too long. And I would like to hear from jason.

[Jenna]

Wait, I'm a woman now? Since when do you refer to me as a woman?

[Esther Povitsky]

Since you've been yapping your mouth all day.

[Jenna]

Keep yapping. So how are you with time management, sir?

[Esther Povitsky]

Sir.

[Jenna]

How quickly we resort to patriarchy. To being a handmaid.

[Kalila]

You sent over a thing that says how girls are dressing this summer. Oh, okay. As I was already dressed and then I. I pulled up the picture and then I looked at my own outfit and I was like, oh, I think this is what they're talking about.

[Esther Povitsky]

So let's put this on the screen and if you're. If you're only listening. The how girls are dressing this summer report is a photo of james gandolfini wearing a pretty inexpensive looking white t shirt. It doesn't look like a nice cut at all. That's flattering to his body. He's wearing long shorts. We all have seen those everywhere.

[Jenna]

They look very polyester.

[Esther Povitsky]

Very, very long shorts. Yes. And he's nursing his son. And he also has a handkerchief, a bandana handkerchief over his head.

[Jenna]

Wait, can you say he's nursing his son even if he's not breastfeeding? Wouldn't it just be he's feeding his son?

[Esther Povitsky]

What did I say?

[Jenna]

Nursing. Just want to make sure men don't get that as well.

[Esther Povitsky]

Soprano. Well, John, never forget when I said to my dad, hey, jan, James gandolfini died. And he's like, I have to go. And he hung up. And I think he started crying.

[Jenna]

Oh, I know.

[Esther Povitsky]

Because men speak for the men. Men love the surprise.

[Kalila]

I think a lot of us do.

[Esther Povitsky]

Anyways, he looks pretty. Not great. But this is how all hot girls are dressing all over new york and l. A.

[Kalila]

Take a look at my outfit.

[Jenna]

I mean, she's literally wearing. Exactly.

[Esther Povitsky]

But you're hot at it.

[Kalila]

No, no, I'm wearing my flip flops.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're, like skinny all of a sudden.

[Jenna]

It's hot to dress like that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Why do you like this look for women?

[Jason Cheney]

I like it. It's like, pretty relaxing.

[Jenna]

Honestly, bro, I'll say this. This man has it right.

[Esther Povitsky]

He's scared of everything.

[Jenna]

They should be scared because he's acting right. He's coming. Correct. He's saying the Right. Shit.

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, I don't like this now. Whoa. What the. Is that

[Jenna]

back to me?

[Jason Cheney]

You like it?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

So funny.

[Jenna]

What do you like? I was giving you a compliment. You're coming correct.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah. How is that a compliment? Yeah, coming correct like you. You owe me or something.

[Jenna]

No, you're coming correct.

[Jason Cheney]

Some sort of subhuman.

[Jenna]

No, no, no, I'm incorrect.

[Jason Cheney]

What is correct?

[Jenna]

Well, coming incorrect would have been if you were like, nah, girls don't look hot like that. Girls shouldn't be wearing clothes like that.

[Jason Cheney]

That's my opinion.

[Kalila]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you made some broad assumptions there. When you're like, he's scared. He's coming correct.

[Jason Cheney]

You just talking for me. What is happening?

[Jenna]

Okay. Damn. Okay, you're right.

[Jason Cheney]

I have an opinion, too.

[Jenna]

Oh, okay. Yes, sir.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Yes, sir.

[Kalila]

I'll say this about this James Gandolfini outfit, which I am looking at like his identical twin today. This is how I dressed in college as a college athlete. And I love that this whole look is coming back. The flip flops, the baggy shorts, like the, you know, the sloppy T shirt, the. I always thought it was one of the hotter looks when I would see just a girl look effortlessly, like, not giving a. Only because I. This silhouette, I know men wear it, but I actually think it looks extremely nice on a lot of women bodies.

[Jason Cheney]

I think women are beautiful. That's good, right? That's a good start.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's a good start.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

That's good.

[Kalila]

You can't come correct right now.

[Jason Cheney]

I think women are beautiful. And I don't know if this is a tangent or not, but if. If women are just naked immediately, when. When men see it, I'm not really. I'm like, all right. But then if it's a little cover, if it's covered up, whatever you wear is nice. Like, to me, maybe that's. Am I correct?

[Esther Povitsky]

Show up naked, huh?

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Like, where. Are you that someone?

[Jason Cheney]

No, but you know what I mean.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're saying, like, you like mystery.

[Jenna]

You like some mystery.

[Jason Cheney]

I think all men like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Okay, maybe not all, but in general, the fashion thing, like, every F changes every five years, and people are like, I like this. I like that. No, but people are fudgeing just as much because we're like, oh, this is nice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Whatever he is, he's so straight. He has no opinion on the type of clothing that women wear.

[Jenna]

I'm gay, trust me, but that's also straight. A straight man who's like, yeah, I would fudge a dude. I'm like, you're straight and you're hot.

[Kalila]

I really, really want to believe that, but there was a time when I was really just a reckless, like, like horny, like all, like my molestation had not been processed in my brain where I would dress so provocatively with these coochie cutters. Whether you could just. Everything about me was like, everything.

[Jason Cheney]

Sorry, I'm just my uncle.

[Jenna]

Oh, no. Okay.

[Kalila]

But you asked that question for dude, that was.

[Jason Cheney]

I didn't expect that. I was trying to do a quick bit thing.

[Jenna]

He's doing a bit.

[Kalila]

No, but then, like, I want to believe that, but then I gotta say both versions. Me as James Gandolfini and me and coochie cutters. Both well received.

[Jason Cheney]

See, that's what I'm saying. So you agree with me?

[Kalila]

Yeah. No, I thought maybe you were thinking, like, all men just wanted James Gandolfini.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, no, no, I think, yeah, no, both.

[Kalila]

Like, both.

[Jason Cheney]

However you dress, you're beautiful already. So if it's like a little bit of a mystery cover up and then we're like, oh, what's under it?

[Jenna]

Yeah, but what if it's not much of a mystery, is it? What if it's not as much of a mystery? Like, sometimes I'm wearing no clothes. Sometimes, I mean, not no clothes, but sometimes I'll wear like just a T shirt out. And other times with no bottoms. Yes. Are you kidding me?

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, what?

[Kalila]

Yeah, are you kidding me? Her and I, that this is what we would wear?

[Jenna]

How is this T shirt? Last week I wore a T shirt, panties and boots.

[Kalila]

Okay. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

I want to go back to the Mexico. I want to go back to the. Paint the pants here. Because I know you're saying, like, oh, it's like casual, whatever, but this look, if you look specifically at his shorts, he's wearing a belt. Like, these are formal shorts. And that's what I'm seeing Silver Lake around New York. It's like, it's more of a formal, short look, which I don't think is.

[Kalila]

There's a cargo pocket, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't like that because you say, oh, it's like so carefree. But when I see that around Silver, like, I'm like, these girls look like they're. They're showing up to work as like a plumber.

[Jason Cheney]

But this is 1895.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, 1999. Yeah, but that is truly what they're doing.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, but that's. But also the. The fabric they have was not as comfort as today. So that's their comfortable. That's their polyester. Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

Now, the fabrics have not. Hold on.

[Jason Cheney]

It has. Trust me.

[Kalila]

This is what I miss about being really young is that when I was younger, I could wear any fabric anytime, anywhere, and I wouldn't notice a thing about, like, now it's like, everything makes my coochie itch. Everything. Everything. If it's not 100% cotton, I'm just disgusting.

[Jason Cheney]

Why is it like this? Me too.

[Kalila]

I know you, too. Yeah, your coochie itches.

[Jason Cheney]

I like my coochie.

[Kalila]

See why.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Well, speaking of the 90s.

[Jenna]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

There is a little challenge going on in the new that has the New York Times has presented to all of us, and I'd like to share it and see if you see it. The challenge is to host a 90s style hangout. You may be wondering how I'll tell you.

[Jenna]

I feel like that's just every day already.

[Esther Povitsky]

So, basically, if you want to do this before a hangout, you get in touch with someone and you agree on one ground rule. You leave your phones at home, and if you must bring them, you have to keep them turned off. And then you decide where you're going before confirm the day before. And then you have to resist the urge to keep updating in real time. Like, there's no real time. Then you check directions before you go, and you commit to being on time.

[Kalila]

We use MapQuest.

[Jenna]

I was gonna say I love Map

[Esther Povitsky]

because you will not have the ability to say, like, I'm on my way, or like, I'm running late.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then during the hangout, it's like, real face to face.

[Jason Cheney]

That's really exciting.

[Kalila]

This is. This is, like, literally my dream right now.

[Esther Povitsky]

It is.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God. Yes. I talk about it all the time. There's. I miss going to a place or going. I know you're not a club person, but we were just not giving a. About taking a photo, anything. It was just. You just existed and it was fun.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

No updates. No weird glare from someone's phone.

[Esther Povitsky]

And here's the thing. It says, allow your conversation to meander. And you're like. Because you're used to filling the silence by picking up your phone and disappearing into separate feeds. Like, it will be uncomfortable. And it says, like, just trust that the conversation will pick up again and don't force it.

[Jenna]

I love this. I love.

[Esther Povitsky]

Kind of hard to do that. What do you think about it?

[Kalila]

Yeah, I think we've. We haven't done our reps in a long time because I think it's easier said than done because at one point, we probably did exist this way. But if I were to, like, have a camera on myself, I probably. The amount of times I'd probably pick up my phone is absurd.

[Jenna]

I pick up my phone too much, especially to update people like Esther. I'm like five minutes away, three minutes away, one minute away.

[Esther Povitsky]

I love how you act, but that's like you two, like, that's a two way street. I don't love all those updates.

[Jenna]

I don't know.

[Game Host/Moderator]

I don't know.

[Jenna]

Because sometimes if I don't give them, you go, eta.

[Esther Povitsky]

True.

[Jenna]

Where?

[Esther Povitsky]

True.

[Jenna]

How long?

[Jason Cheney]

But if you just show up on time, it's fine now or.

[Jenna]

Well, I don't know. You would think that it's fine, but

[Jason Cheney]

are you not on time?

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, that's so real.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I am on time.

[Esther Povitsky]

You are.

[Jenna]

I am on time.

[Jason Cheney]

What's the problem?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, she'll be like, okay, my ETA says 303, but I think I'm gonna make up for the time in the air.

[Jenna]

I do. I do do that.

[Esther Povitsky]

She's like, it's 2:59. I'm here.

[Jenna]

It's a long explanation because I'm scared of Esther. I' scared to come after 259-59- it

[Esther Povitsky]

is a video game at this point, basically, that we're playing.

[Kalila]

So how do we. How do we plan this? And who's invited?

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, can I ask real quick though? Like before, like the scrolling the phones before, what did people do? I forgot. What do people do when two people talk and then there's like a silent situation?

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a good question, because I haven't thought about that in a long time. And it sounds really.

[Jason Cheney]

Because I never felt like I panicked before, but then now, if there's too long of a silent, I'm kind of like, all right, do I eat the food? Like, real slow? Like, what?

[Jenna]

I love a silence, like when I'm hanging out with someone.

[Jason Cheney]

Just like, no, I love that when it's comfortable. But then when it's two people, if you just meet for the first time.

[Kalila]

You ran out of things.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, you ran out of things. There's always like a kind of a moment thing, so. But before, I don't think we ever saw that.

[Kalila]

I get really annoying. This is where I'm like, kalila, turn on your podcast brain and come up with the next topic. It's like, the responsibility is on me now.

[Jenna]

Stop. She'll.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, really?

[Kalila]

I'm stressed. This is why I go home tired. This is why I tell Aloha, do not bring me. Because he's like, Babe. Someone's birthday party as I have fun.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Because I don't know how to not be a podcast girl, and I feel a responsibility of being like, what next are we gonna talk about?

[Esther Povitsky]

You're, like, hosting.

[Jenna]

I will say that you've been like this, though, before you started podcasting.

[Kalila]

Yeah. But then I come out exhausted, so this is why my real friends know I'm actually a very, very quiet person. If you're in the home with me, leave me the alone. I'm fine. But in a social setting, you'll. You'll. You'll think that I am a social butterfly, but that's because I'm like. I feel pressure to, like, keep the conversation going because why? I'm uncomfortable.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. So. Yeah. Why?

[Kalila]

I have social anxiety, and I feel like I'm scared of being perceived as, like, what I really am, which is the wallflower in, like, the corner, which I really want to be.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's gonna happen if you're like. Like Anna, that.

[Kalila]

They don't. In my head, it's. They don't like me if I don't bring something entertaining to the table or. Or interesting or show them, like, a little bit of who. Like, what I think about the world, whatever. I. In my head, I. Some. There's a part of my brain that's like, oh, she's boring.

[Jenna]

I don't know if this is behind how I used to be. Yeah. But you know how I wanted to, like, entertain everyone all the time? I would walk into a room. I just wanted people to laugh.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're like a really good third wheel when two people are trying to fall in love. Because I feel like if you want to fall in love, you always need, like, a third person to, like.

[Kalila]

He's so silly.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Like, oh, my God, isn't she so weird? And then was like, oh, we love.

[Jenna]

Yeah, dude. I was a third. I was like, the third wheel because I didn't start dating till college. I'm telling you, I was on dates with friends. They were starting to make out at the movie theater. It was the two of them and me.

[Jason Cheney]

Well, why aren't you dating, though?

[Jenna]

I was just, like, too busy doing other things. Too busy trying to make people laugh, I guess.

[Kalila]

You know who else is like this? Gilbert.

[Jenna]

Yes.

[Kalila]

Gilbert is the perfect person. I invite him everywhere to anything because everyone is, like, not on guard around him because he's so just, like, wonderful and sunshiny.

[Jenna]

But we also both make fools of ourselves.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

All the time.

[Kalila]

Silly. So everyone's just like, ah, okay. We can Relax now. He's so silly.

[Jason Cheney]

How is it on the inside?

[Jenna]

It used to feel really good to me because I felt like I was having fun and interacting with people. Then it started really tiring me out. And now I would say I'm much different in social settings. Like I'm. I listen more, I'm a bit more quiet. If I get the urge to, like, want to be the funny one because someone else is being funny, I'm like, you take it. You got, you got, you got that.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's how I feel. Yeah, wrong comedians too. I did something last week. I hit such a low for someone who works in our field. Like a comedian who's like, supposed to have like ideas and thoughts.

[Bobby]

Thoughts.

[Esther Povitsky]

I realized I am so boring at home. I ordered a set of cards that are conversation starters.

[Jenna]

That's cool.

[Esther Povitsky]

When me and Dave have our like 15 minutes together at the end of the night.

[Jenna]

Wait for you guys.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I thought it was for other people,

[Kalila]

but she thought for herself.

[Jenna]

She's out Me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just me.

[Jenna]

Like, oh, never thought of that before.

[Esther Povitsky]

I literally like, okay, Dave, I get him. I sit him down. I'm like, all right, how would you describe your personal taste and interior style? And then we talk for 15 minutes.

[Kalila]

I feel like these are important questions to ask your partner.

[Jenna]

I think that's cool to like reignite

[Esther Povitsky]

conversations and that's how I know that it's not cool.

[Jenna]

Got it.

[Kalila]

I appreciate that. It's kind of like one of those things where before I used to think that people who plan sex are like psychopaths paths. But when you get older and when life happens, you're like, you know what? What's so bad about a planned session?

[Jenna]

Yeah, what's the alternative? Not planning it and then just not having sex.

[Jason Cheney]

But also, are we supposed to. I'm just. When you said that, I'm like, are we supposed to think about what to ask them and be genuinely interested or.

[Kalila]

That's why the cards are there.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, but you, if you have a card, is like, you. We didn't use our brain to. Not that I have. I don't have any questions to ask you oven. But. But not that I have it.

[Jenna]

But I'm saying that also you might not care.

[Jason Cheney]

Care. Not that maybe you do care, but we're so busy every day doing the stuff that we're like, dude, I don't have energy to ask you your interior taste.

[Esther Povitsky]

For me, that's not an issue. Once I see the question, I'm like, all right, let's go. Like, I'm In.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, okay, I see.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm interested.

[Jason Cheney]

But then this is the hard one. The. The coming up with the question. That's interesting.

[Kalila]

But, you know, here's what I'll say about that. I know what you're saying, which I

[Jason Cheney]

don't know if it makes sense.

[Kalila]

You know, I think when you've been with someone, you're married, you're married. We. When you've been with someone for so long, you kind of.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Of.

[Jason Cheney]

It's the same thing.

[Kalila]

Stop getting to know them because you

[Jenna]

kind of know, because you're getting curious,

[Kalila]

but then you kind of don't. Because people evolve, right? So I think it's good to pick up a pack of cards and kind of like, who are you?

[Jason Cheney]

No, I wasn't hating.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, I know. Yeah.

[Kalila]

No, I know what you're saying, because it's like, shouldn't I come up on my own? And, like, should I? But I think when your brain is really tired and a lot of things are happening in your day, it's good to have something already there to, like, a minor assistance.

[Jenna]

It's just something that's my brain not working. Because from there can come a conversation that maybe ignites something that you actually care about. And then you ask a question on your own.

[Kalila]

What if you're like, I really don't even care to know your answer about your interior design taste?

[Jenna]

Then you go to the next car.

[Jason Cheney]

Okay, I think this is where, like,

[Game Host/Moderator]

some shared hobbies help a little bit, because there's always something to talk about. Like, if you care about the same music, games, sports.

[Jenna]

I don't want no shared hobbies.

[Kalila]

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[Kalila]

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[Kalila]

You know me, I'm like my whole thing, my new personality is cotton only.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no. I know we've been saying that. And skims has nailed it with the cotton collection. I feel like it's become my mom uniform at home. Right. Like where I can feel that's my thing with skims all the time. It's like it hits both comfortable and then yet I feel like, oh wait, I'm still kind of hot, I've still got it and I'm fulfilling my desire of being the earth mother where it's cotton, it's natural fibers but I just feel really good about myself. The skims cotton jersey fold over pant.

[Kalila]

That is my late one. Do you know that that's what I wore during pregnancy, Right?

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I'm so mad that I didn't have them during my pregnancy because I got them postpartum was like these would have saved my every issue I was having in pregnancy.

[Kalila]

Oh, my third trimester. I lived in those. That's all I wore.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're so perfect. You guys shop skims cotton and all of our favorite [e-mail] after you place your order be sure to let them know we send you select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the drop down menu that follows.

[Jason Cheney]

Can't see a like a random thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Do you hear anything that we've been saying? Just all we do is random.

[Jason Cheney]

I like that because just off of the card that you're I I like to ask like people what their perfect day Looks like. Oh, if you have like a, you know, like a billion dollars, where are you? What does your furniture look like?

[Jenna]

Wow.

[Jason Cheney]

And like, what are you doing when you're waking up? Are you still working? How many kids? How many dogs? And are you spending time. Who. You know, I mean, because I feel like with those answers, like, every single thing tells you a lot about their personality.

[Jenna]

Damn.

[Jason Cheney]

And then their values.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

So I. But then sometimes you ask, maybe. Because I feel like you. Even if you add the same person, maybe you. You come up with a.

[Jenna]

What?

[Jason Cheney]

My brain shut down. That was. That was too much.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, it's like us all the time. Yeah.

[Jenna]

I think that's a really good question.

[Kalila]

Yeah. But that answer changes a lot, right? Depending on where you're at, like in your life and stuff. I. I think it's a great. I think we should all talk about, like, as it stands today, Wednesday, July, whatever.

[Jenna]

Whatever.

[Kalila]

What does your perfect day look like?

[Jenna]

I was afraid you were going to actually.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, the thing is that it's like your perfect day better be so boring. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Kalila]

Like, I agree.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you want to have, like, an exciting day?

[Jason Cheney]

Okay. Maybe like Tuesday or Wednesday?

[Jenna]

Because that can't be every day, right?

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, it can't be every day.

[Jenna]

A perfect day for me is like, I wake up.

[Jason Cheney]

Where are you, though? Wake up. Where?

[Jenna]

Not in my apartment.

[Esther Povitsky]

I still doing construction.

[Kalila]

Homeless.

[Esther Povitsky]

So she wakes up.

[Kalila]

Homeless.

[Jenna]

Yeah, we're still doing construction. I wake up in my apartment. The AC feels nice. I've been sleeping with it around 64

[Esther Povitsky]

to 65 and I'm waking up very expensive.

[Game Host/Moderator]

That's cold.

[Kalila]

That's expensive for la.

[Jenna]

Except what's important to me is how I feel.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's perfect day.

[Kalila]

Don't. On a perfect.

[Jenna]

What's most important to me is my health. So how I feel. So I.

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, how many? Where? What? Which city?

[Jenna]

Oh, oh, whatever. Whatever city I'm in.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, you don't care.

[Jenna]

No, I just want to feel good and it's rich. Not have a migraine.

[Kalila]

Ah, perfect day is health related.

[Jenna]

Yeah. I want to not have a migraine. I want to wake up, have a good formed poop. I want to form. Yeah, I want.

[Bobby]

How many.

[Jason Cheney]

How many slides?

[Jenna]

Just one slide.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, one slide. Okay.

[Jenna]

Yeah. So the fibers are bonding.

[Jason Cheney]

Well, that's nice.

[Jenna]

Then I want to have the means to make a wonderful breakfast and not feel like you make it.

[Jason Cheney]

You cook it or somebody else cook

[Jenna]

it, because this is. Oh, wait, hold on, hold on.

[Jason Cheney]

Perfect day. You could have Anything.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, this is like when one time, like, 10 years ago, Jen and I were on a walk, and I was like, how much money would you need to feel like you're sick, set for life? She goes, let me think. Hold on. $10,000.

[Jenna]

I really was like, when I have $10,000, I will be rich.

[Esther Povitsky]

I was like, I know we're in our 20s, but, like, I was 26 at the time.

[Kalila]

You should want.

[Jason Cheney]

That makes sense.

[Esther Povitsky]

More.

[Jenna]

Oh, my God, you're so right. It's. I gotta reach higher. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

And she, by the way, she was

[Jason Cheney]

like, that's really funny.

[Esther Povitsky]

10,000. 10,000.

[Jenna]

Like, yeah, girl.

[Jason Cheney]

That's really nice.

[Jenna]

Okay, wait, no, no, no. You're right. I have a private chef.

[Jason Cheney]

You have a.

[Jenna]

Can make me food that I'm not allergic to. And I can run the AC because it doesn't matter because I have enough money to run the ac.

[Esther Povitsky]

Maybe it does matter.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, my God. This is crazy, because it makes sense when I'm like, which city? And you're like, anywhere, which is like, you don't really care where the thing is. It's just like, you're alive.

[Jenna]

Yeah. I just want to feel good in my body.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

I feel like I've been happy and so, like, in the most. In the. The shittiest places. Like, where are you still?

[Jason Cheney]

That's so nice.

[Jenna]

But not anymore. I don't think I'm like that anymore. And so my perfect day would be

[Jason Cheney]

that I just said, you just appreciate a smooth. I think you're still there. That's if you're appreciating.

[Jenna]

Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry.

[Kalila]

Yeah, that is important.

[Jenna]

Yeah, you're right.

[Jason Cheney]

No, but it's still nice, though. But if you're happy just with the smooth shit, I think that's the best.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Because some people's like, let me get 10,000.

[Jenna]

I would like to have enough money to eat at Air1 Private Chef. I have a day I'm working on set and a TV show that I love, and I don't get a migraine. And I can see out of both my eyes, and I'm feeling good. And my parents are healthy.

[Jason Cheney]

Where do they live? Are they.

[Jenna]

They live in Chicago still, but I have now moved them out to wherever I live.

[Jason Cheney]

Wherever you live.

[Jenna]

That would. That would.

[Jason Cheney]

Do you have a Concedo for them, or do you have like a. Do they have like a guest house? Guest house?

[Jenna]

Yeah, they have a guest house house. And then I go to sleep, put my AC back down to 64 it

[Jason Cheney]

was up in the morning.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Yeah. So it's 64, and then I usually turn it off.

[Jason Cheney]

Well, dude, would you just put it on auto just in case it goes

[Esther Povitsky]

up, it comes back perfect day. Why not just leave it on?

[Jason Cheney]

What's happening right now?

[Kalila]

As someone who is. Whose baby daddy is an H vac guy, I don't like your Turn it off AC running. No, that's so much more power to load it back.

[Jenna]

It's a lot harder to load it back up, which is actually what me and Dave were yelling at her about.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm just so annoyed that you were there for that. And this is happening right now.

[Kalila]

You rack up your bill.

[Esther Povitsky]

Will you keep it on? Keep it on.

[Jenna]

You do keep it on, but just a little higher. Like from 65. Like this morning. I went from 69. Was this morning. I put it back up to 76 before I left.

[Jason Cheney]

What? Why? To save money.

[Jenna]

Yeah, because I met someone else's home dog.

[Kalila]

You can't power down, power up every day.

[Esther Povitsky]

What are you talking about?

[Jenna]

You can't turn it all the way off and on. You have to leave it on. But it can be at a higher.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's what I do.

[Kalila]

Oh, okay. I thought maybe shut down your ac.

[Jenna]

It does.

[Jason Cheney]

How much money do you think we're saving from 76 to 69?

[Jenna]

I think more than like $200 a month.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

So no one else had to do their perfect day?

[Kalila]

No, I, I. Very easy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Perfect day. My perfect day. Let me go because mine's really quick. I wake up, Jenna's locked in a hot cage. I go back to bed.

[Kalila]

You peek to see hours later that she's still in the hot cage.

[Jenna]

You go back to bed again. You release me to do work in your house.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's true.

[Jenna]

So I know you wouldn't keep me locked in there forever.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, who's next?

[Jason Cheney]

No, I'm curious. I don't have one.

[Kalila]

Mine's easy. We're in Hawaii or the Philippines or somewhere where my eczema doesn't flare. Oh, my baby's eczema doesn't flare. The aloha's eczema doesn't flare.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Kalila]

We're just an itchy family. Okay. Okay. And then we spend the day at the beach with a baby. We go shelling, we go catch a couple fish. We go home, we cuddle. And that is all I ever want in life. Life.

[Jason Cheney]

That's not true.

[Kalila]

It's all I ever want. I swear. Not even career related. If I had that. And, like, I Had, like, the means to, like, support that life. That life. That's, like, more than enough.

[Jenna]

Yeah. I don't actually think that she's telling the truth.

[Jason Cheney]

Why do you think women in Los

[Kalila]

Angeles doing the stuff to support that life? That's all I dream about.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Kalila doesn't care about any of this.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, Esther's skeptical because I used to feel like that, too. And I know we're very different, and it is more realistic that you don't want anything else. Else, but I just feel like. Doesn't it. It don't. It could get boring.

[Jenna]

Like, you need, like.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know what it is, is I feel like I go through these phases where I'm like, I just want to be a mom. I don't want to do other stuff. And then I realize, like, wait, like, I need a little more.

[Kalila]

The thing is, like, I've had a very unboring life, I think, with too much, like, craziness. And I once went on, when Bobby was relapsing, we took him to a place in Arizona. I was in for a family session, and this one therapist said something that, like, completely rewired my brain. And he said, healing is in the boredom. And that stuck with me forever. And it made sense, particularly for me, it made sense for Bobby, because I think at that point, we were always chasing this, like, dopamine hit of life. We always think, right around the corner is going to be a career change. Right around the corner is going to be this offer. Right around the corner is going to be this. And there's always a right around the corner. And I always, always sought that my whole life. And I always found that my nervous system was very disregulated that way. And I was always sweating, sweating, sweating, sweating. I now really welcome boredom. I welcome simplicity. And I just want to be with my baby and aloha and. No, with no eczema.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, my God. That's the best.

[Bobby]

Thank you.

[Jason Cheney]

That's really. That's really.

[Jenna]

He likes all of our perfect life.

[Esther Povitsky]

That was really profound, though. The healing is in the boredom. That's really scary.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

Was it in the beginning really hard. Hard to be in boredom, like, because

[Kalila]

it's like, my brain doesn't work that way. My brain. I have a hot brain. It's always firing.

[Jenna]

You do have a hot brain.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I have a hot brain. All of us have hot brains. If you're in this field and you are like, my friend, you have a hot brain.

[Jenna]

She just called us her friends.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's crazy.

[Kalila]

Write it down. It's a diary.

[Jenna]

We've got it.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's your perfect day?

[Jason Cheney]

I don't have one.

[Jenna]

One. All of that. You made us make up our perfect days and you don't have perfect day.

[Jason Cheney]

Perfect life thing with the. With the beach thing. I'm curious if it. But like, that is perfect. Peaceful. You're not like thinking about a thing like, that's like. Like you really enjoy that. More like just a fish. Like, go get a fish.

[Kalila]

My partner and I, like, we're ocean people.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

You know, we're divers. We do all this. So it's already part of the thing that we love the most.

[Esther Povitsky]

Most.

[Jenna]

And there's activity in it. You're not.

[Kalila]

And it's very meditative. It's just calming and boring and wonderful.

[Jenna]

They're like diving. There's gear, there's activity.

[Jason Cheney]

There's a lot to do.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's some.

[Kalila]

There's some logistics that I would add into that perfect day, which is like, I wish I didn't have to dry my gear and clean up my. At the end of the day, but I won't get into that.

[Jenna]

You would hire me to do it?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You let her out of her hot.

[Kalila]

You let her out of her house.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are cool off with some work.

[Kalila]

I think the one that wins is Esther's.

[Jenna]

That's me from my. My crate. Wait, can we talk about the World Cup? Are we just not going to World Cup? We're not going to talk about the United states and the 41 loss?

[Kalila]

No.

[Jenna]

Okay. But how about before that, how Trump tried to rig the World Cup? I won't say that he tried to rig the World cup. So US Was given a red card for one of their players. Trump inserted himself in. The one thing that was basically uniting the United States was soccer. And he decided to insert himself and he asked for the red card to be like, revoked. Obeyed.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

What's up is that the United States played like agreeable trash, which we had been playing really, really well.

[Kalila]

The vibes, the morale.

[Jenna]

The vibes changed everything. Like your mentals when you're playing a sport. I'm telling you because I know that you don't know is very, very important.

[Game Host/Moderator]

He definitely fudged up the vibe. We went from like underdog a USA Cinderella to like the whole world wanting us to lose because we cheated and got a player back that we should

[Kalila]

like, kind of took away the grit.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Of the day is the.

[Esther Povitsky]

So the US is out now.

[Jenna]

They're out now.

[Kalila]

Lost to Belgium 414-1241 is brutal.

[Jenna]

Everyone was mocking Trump afterward because you could tell that, like, the players felt like. Like, this was all just fake.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. Is this like, Trump was like, the narcissistic parent who's like, I. You got. My babies are good. Like, and then he, like, took their dignity away.

[Kalila]

Yeah. It's like, you know, when you're a parent, you have to allow your children to fail, and you have to allow them to find their own solutions in life, sometimes without interference. Right. And I think he was a narcissistic. Interference. Interference.

[Jenna]

But also, this is soccer. There's always going to be things that happen that you don't agree with. Like, it was. Most people didn't think it should have been a red card. That happens all the time. It's not like this is the first time it's happened in history where people are like, that's not a red card.

[Kalila]

Should have just shut the up. Amongst other things you should shut the up about. But. Yeah.

[Jason Cheney]

But it was kind of cool, though, too.

[Jenna]

What?

[Jason Cheney]

It's like, take it back. No, that's like, who did. Nobody's done that, though.

[Jenna]

No, people have done that in history. People have petitioned to have. Have, I think, like, 60s. That was like, the last.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah, 1960. He's like, it's time again.

[Game Host/Moderator]

A long time ago.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Like in the 1960s.

[Game Host/Moderator]

We do have a game prepared. Oh, yeah, we have a game of Jenga. Specialty game of Jenga that has Truth and dares on the bottom of there.

[Jenna]

Esther, of course, does not care. The table is bouncing.

[Game Host/Moderator]

What is it on the. What is it on the bottom? It's a dare. All right.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. I transfer my dare to Jenna.

[Jason Cheney]

Okay, you can transfer.

[Jenna]

Esther just made that up.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can all dares go to Jenna?

[Jason Cheney]

Sure.

[Game Host/Moderator]

It's your show. Yeah, absolutely.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's my show.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Jenna, recreate the love scene with anyone in the room from the notebook.

[Jenna]

So I have to say words.

[Game Host/Moderator]

We got a script for you acting.

[Kalila]

Okay, hold on. No, Jason. You're. You're Noah. You're Noah.

[Jason Cheney]

But I read slow.

[Jenna]

That's okay.

[Kalila]

All the better. You know what? Noah read slow, too.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, good, good, good. Perfect, perfect.

[Jenna]

Okay, so I'm Allie. I don't remember of this. Okay. Why didn't you write me?

[Jason Cheney]

Wait, you have another. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Jenna]

I'm still talking. Noah.

[Jason Cheney]

My bad. That's my bad.

[Jenna]

It wasn't over for me. I waited for you for seven years. Seven years. And now it's too late. Long pause.

[Jason Cheney]

I wrote you 365 letters.

[Jenna]

Pause.

[Jason Cheney]

I wrote you Every day. Every day for a year.

[Jenna]

God, you guys.

[Jason Cheney]

Is that good?

[Esther Povitsky]

So good.

[Jenna]

You wrote me.

[Bobby]

Yes.

[Jason Cheney]

It wasn't over. It still isn't over. I think that's the.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wow.

[Jenna]

Wow, wow, wow. Good thing we didn't book that.

[Jason Cheney]

Was that good?

[Esther Povitsky]

It was.

[Jenna]

We were good.

[Jason Cheney]

We're the best.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, who's next?

[Jenna]

Obviously, you've never played Jenga.

[Jason Cheney]

Is that the rule? No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Okay.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Draw a picture of the person to your left. We have a little notepad for you.

[Jenna]

Oh, no, you just gotta go.

[Bobby]

Just.

[Kalila]

Just the nose.

[Jenna]

No, because it's gonna look bad.

[Esther Povitsky]

So you're calling her ugly?

[Jenna]

No, I'm calling me not talented and I'm a sharpie.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm sorry. I had no idea she thought you were ugly.

[Jenna]

Those are such a.

[Kalila]

Now we know lying. Put her in her hot cage right

[Esther Povitsky]

now while we let Jenna draw. Should we have Kalila.

[Jenna]

I would just like to say I'm not good at drawing.

[Kalila]

Here's letting her skip the job.

[Jenna]

Okay, I guess I'll do the side view because that's all I can see.

[Jason Cheney]

You can't poke three of them. And then. And then.

[Kalila]

Oh. Ah. Dare, Dare. Let me see my dare first before I pass it on to Jenna.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Sure.

[Esther Povitsky]

What are you. You're still only on the hair, girl. This is a podcast. We are done.

[Game Host/Moderator]

The dare that you pulled was to give a lap dance to anyone in the room.

[Kalila]

Oh, that's for Jenna. No, thank you.

[Jenna]

I'm busy being an artiste.

[Kalila]

Actually, you know what? What?

[Jenna]

Can you look to the side again?

[Kalila]

I'm trying not to. For you to get my profile.

[Esther Povitsky]

Let's check in with Jason.

[Jenna]

You need me to do a lap dance right now?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. While you're drawing, you have to give me a lap dance, Esther.

[Kalila]

I'm going to eat my beef.

[Esther Povitsky]

This is fully falling apart. This is horrible. Refund.

[Jason Cheney]

Refund.

[Esther Povitsky]

Red card.

[Jenna]

Ew. Ew.

[Kalila]

Balakan's on the dance floor.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, my God. Did you practice this? Do. Wait, do. Do all women know how to do a lap dance?

[Esther Povitsky]

I think so.

[Jenna]

I love that response. That was really good. Of course.

[Esther Povitsky]

Of course.

[Jenna]

I need to see your side view because I already started drawing the hair to the side.

[Esther Povitsky]

Moved on.

[Kalila]

And we've moved on from my portrait.

[Esther Povitsky]

She has to eat her beef and rice.

[Game Host/Moderator]

I feel like it's going to come down on this next in May, you know, like, we're close.

[Jason Cheney]

Go.

[Jenna]

I haven't even gotten to go yet.

[Game Host/Moderator]

You got to draw quicker right there.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are they all dares?

[Game Host/Moderator]

There's a lot of Dares. It's dare heavy. Would you like a truth?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I'll take a dare.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I'll take a truth. I'll take a truth so I don't have to get up.

[Jenna]

Oh God. Lips. Is it because you have big lips? But it's not coming out right.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Without naming a specific ex, what was their most off putting habit? Habit.

[Jason Cheney]

And who is it? Who's this?

[Game Host/Moderator]

Without naming full name?

[Jason Cheney]

Government.

[Kalila]

We all know her exes.

[Esther Povitsky]

It shouldn't be too hard. Off putting habit. I'm usually the one in the relationship with off putting habits if I'm being honest.

[Jason Cheney]

What's like a really off putting habit? That of you, of me and then him. So two. Two truths.

[Esther Povitsky]

Two truths. Wait, that's not how this works. I don't. Do you know of an off putting habit of one of your exes?

[Kalila]

I. Yeah, of course. Are you kidding me?

[Jenna]

Oh God.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I know. Off putting habit of your exes. What?

[Esther Povitsky]

Say that.

[Kalila]

No, no, no, no.

[Jenna]

I have the photo guys.

[Kalila]

Let me see, let me see.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, show it.

[Kalila]

Wait, that's really good.

[Esther Povitsky]

Let me see.

[Kalila]

Although. Why am I sunken like right here?

[Esther Povitsky]

Because. Because. Let me see it.

[Kalila]

And my lips are just like all

[Esther Povitsky]

the way out here.

[Jenna]

I guess I did want to listen because you were talking about your nose so I wanted to not make it big and so I tried to put it in but then it was too late.

[Esther Povitsky]

Actually kind of pretty.

[Kalila]

Yeah, it's actually really nice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I see? Are you an artist?

[Game Host/Moderator]

No.

[Jenna]

Let's look again. She's holding a banana.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's something to it though.

[Kalila]

I like it. I. I like it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Okay.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Esther, would you prefer a dare? Your next dare. I would like to see this one.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, sure.

[Kalila]

What's it?

[Game Host/Moderator]

Can you sing your favorite Hamilton number?

[Jenna]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

I actually am not a Hamilton fan, which I know makes no sense, but

[Jenna]

no one else is in the room where it happened. The room where it happened. The room where it happened. Look, she knew it.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's like the one thing I know. Thank you.

[Jenna]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it's a little too like popular for Hamilton.

[Jenna]

Is incredible.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm getting some nods from the cool girls in the back. Okay, Jenna, pull your. It's your turn finally. Is it? Kyla has left the show. I'm so hungry. Me too.

[Kalila]

I'm so hungry.

[Jenna]

You guys want to eat right before you come?

[Kalila]

It's not that. It's just that when you still breastfeeding, it's like. Like hunger never leaves your mind.

[Jenna]

That's true. I have a dare. Are these only dares we already covered this.

[Esther Povitsky]

While you were drawing.

[Jenna]

I was. I was busy. I was deep in my artistic flow.

[Esther Povitsky]

You lost sense of track of time. In all senses.

[Game Host/Moderator]

The next stare up is to call anybody and have the people in the room tell you what to say.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. This is.

[Jenna]

Why do I always get the who

[Esther Povitsky]

should we ever call?

[Jenna]

I should call Bobby.

[Kalila]

No, Bobby will never pick up your call.

[Jenna]

I know.

[Bobby]

Try.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can we try?

[Jenna]

Let's just try. He won't. He's never picked up my call.

[Kalila]

Only because he still sleeping.

[Game Host/Moderator]

If he does pick up, you guys got to have something ready for her to say.

[Esther Povitsky]

What? She's calling Bobby.

[Jenna]

He's never picked up a call.

[Esther Povitsky]

Say the British are coming.

[Kalila]

Wait, when the British are coming?

[Jenna]

What the. Who can she call?

[Esther Povitsky]

Your dad.

[Kalila]

Oh, your dad. Your pop.

[Esther Povitsky]

Say you had a bad coffee today and you don't know what to do.

[Kalila]

Just be like, hey, you have cho. You have a lot of like diarrhea right now. What should you do?

[Jason Cheney]

Say you're pregnant.

[Jenna]

Oh, no. Oh, would he be happy or pass

[Esther Povitsky]

away happy or sad?

[Jenna]

If my mom picks up, I'm gonna be so pissed. She picks up his phone all the time. Hello? It's like, no, I was calling my dad to speak to my dad.

[Jason Cheney]

Hello? That's really nice.

[Jenna]

Where is Poppy? Why isn't he picking up his phone? I'm calling you for a specific reason. I had a bad coffee today.

[Esther Povitsky]

Say that or that. Esther. Oh, peeled an orange.

[Jenna]

Esther. And also Esther peeled an orange. Finally.

[Bobby]

Oh my God. That means she's doing well. What?

[Jenna]

Yeah, mom, this is a call just for Poppy. You won't understand it. You just gotta listen and hold the phone.

[Bobby]

Oh my God. How did it go?

[Jenna]

Esther, how did it go with your peeling the orange?

[Esther Povitsky]

Good. I'm healing.

[Kalila]

Healed.

[Jenna]

She said good and she's healed.

[Bobby]

Oh my God. Now thought to put a little bit of big spot proof.

[Jenna]

Oh, wait, Poppy, I gotta go. I love you. Bye.

[Esther Povitsky]

So a couple weeks ago.

[Jenna]

Hey, Bobby, what's going on? Hey, did I wake you?

[Bobby]

No, but what's going on? I got nervous and worried.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I didn't think you would pick up my call since you haven't picked up my phone call in 10 years. But I just to want. Want 15. Just wanted to let you know. What? The English are coming. The British are coming. Oh, that the you cut out. I want to let you know that the British are coming.

[Esther Povitsky]

He's so mad. I'm so scared.

[Kalila]

Where's my phone?

[Jenna]

What does that mean?

[Esther Povitsky]

Please edit my involvement of this.

[Jenna]

He's calling again. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know what that meant.

[Bobby]

What?

[Jenna]

I didn't know.

[Bobby]

No, I'm just. I have blind spots. Spots in my house.

[Jenna]

What are you doing right now?

[Bobby]

I got up. I'm drinking a Red Bull. I'm listening to some music. I was outside laying out a little bit.

[Jenna]

Wait, really?

[Bobby]

Yeah. And then I'm probably gonna go. I'm gonna shake first. I'm gonna make a smoothie in my kitchen.

[Jenna]

Are you tanning naked or.

[Bobby]

No, no, I don't have my. But sometimes I'll pull it out and, like, push it toward the sun. Oh, interconnected.

[Jenna]

If you're pulling your out, you probably have a hemorrhoid.

[Bobby]

Okay. Am I on air?

[Jenna]

There's air in the world.

[Bobby]

No, that was being recorded right now.

[Kalila]

Then I can't lie.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I just wanted to tell you that your hands.

[Bobby]

Am I being recorded right now?

[Jenna]

You're not being recorded, but you're on Trash Tuesday.

[Bobby]

Yeah, that's being re recorded.

[Jenna]

You're so stupid. It was a dare. Bobby.

[Bobby]

Yeah. Is the little gnome there?

[Jenna]

The little gnome is here. And Kalila's to my left, and Jason Chenny is to my right.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you guys know each other?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Oh, I like that guy.

[Jenna]

Isn't he handsome?

[Bobby]

No.

[Jenna]

Oh, he looks like.

[Bobby]

Remember that, Like, Pixar movie soul or something? Yeah, he's like the Asian version of that black man.

[Jason Cheney]

Is that good? Is that good?

[Jenna]

Podcast?

[Jason Cheney]

Why would you laugh like that?

[Jenna]

He's mad that I'm laughing like that. Dang. He did you dirty but very funny

[Bobby]

man and very kind.

[Jenna]

Well, Bobby, I miss you, and I am so happy that you picked up the phone for me, because I miss you. You don't ever know.

[Bobby]

Was a little gnome laughing.

[Jenna]

Yeah, she's laughing right now, eating food, and it's disgusting.

[Bobby]

Well, tell the little gnome I said hi and couldn't tell Asian soul. I said hi.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Bye.

[Kalila]

Okay, bye.

[Esther Povitsky]

Love you.

[Jenna]

Love you. Love you.

[Bobby]

So this is. Bye. Love you. Bye.

[Game Host/Moderator]

So we have to wrap, but, Jason, do you just want to pull one of those just for. For fun since you didn't get a chance to do it?

[Esther Povitsky]

He did.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Oh, he did do one. Okay, can someone do one from the bottom and see if it falls down?

[Kalila]

One more Jenga.

[Jason Cheney]

There's another dare.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're all dares.

[Kalila]

There's truth. I see two truths.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, there's two.

[Jenna]

Two truth.

[Jason Cheney]

Like 95.

[Jenna]

Two truths and a dare.

[Esther Povitsky]

Jason, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that you had to be here today.

[Jason Cheney]

No, this is the best.

[Game Host/Moderator]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Really?

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Good.

[Kalila]

Because somewhere down the road, halfway, I started to get hunger pangs. And I was speaking, but all I could think about was my ground beef.

[Jason Cheney]

Yeah. You should eat the thing. Yeah.

[Jenna]

Is there anything you wanted to talk about that we didn't get to.

[Jason Cheney]

No, I like this. It's like. Like sometimes it's nice to just listen. No, it's because it's, like comfortable, you know, it's not like a crazy thing, like.

[Game Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, thank you so much to our slugs for listening. Please comment below if I'm the man or not.

[Jenna]

You're not.

[Esther Povitsky]

Jason, are you on tour? Where can people find.

[Jason Cheney]

Oh, yeah. Please come see me do stand up comedy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Stand up is so funny.

[Jason Cheney]

You're really nice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are you on tour? Where you going to be?

[Jason Cheney]

I just toured the United States of America.

[Esther Povitsky]

Beautiful, beautiful country.

[Jenna]

Where can they find you to find?

[Jason Cheney]

Find me on my name, Jason Cheney. And please come to the show. Please. Thank you guys so much for having me

[Esther Povitsky]

sluggies. We'll see you next week with a brand new episode.

[Bobby]

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[Kalila]

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[Bobby]

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[Kalila]

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