Jiaoying Summers and Peter Kim are 2 Broken Asians

Summary

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Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode Title: Jiaoying Summers and Peter Kim are 2 Broken Asians
Date: April 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this no-filter, laugh-out-loud installment, Khalyla Kuhn and Esther Povitsky (“the slugs”) are joined by comedians Jiaoying Summers and Peter Kim. The crew dives into surviving the trauma and comedy of being “broken” Asian Americans, parenting across cultures, internet cancellation, generational rage (“Han”), cultural values, toxic attachment styles, and why women should set their standards sky-high. Expect wild anecdotes, dark humor, candid truths, and plenty of relatable chaos for all the sluggies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jiaoying’s Motherhood, Marriages & Cultural Contrasts

[01:21 - 09:30]

• Jiaoying's Pregnancy Journey:
  • Currently six months pregnant with her third child, first with her American fiancé.
  • “It’s my third one… My marriage was very abusive, but I wasn’t working. I was a housewife… full time slave… Now my fiancé is nice, but I have to work, which is hard.” [01:37 - 01:55]
• On being the breadwinner and the evolving roles within her marriages.
• Candidly discusses cultural differences — her first marriage was with a Chinese man, current fiancé is from Ohio, “Cleveland, Ohio white.”
• Issues of parenting, favoritism, and the complexities of blending families: "My daughter did not have a father… My new man stepped in and he's the dad for Margot… She doesn't understand why she has a white dad." [08:04 - 08:30]
• Cultural jokes on half-white vs. “pure Chinese” kids and navigating stereotypes:
  • “This one’s half white. My other two is pure Chinese, like okay, Chinese Chinese kids.” [03:01]

2. Pregnancy & Brain Fog, Gender Roles & Asian Parenting

[04:01 - 06:38]

• Khalyla and Jiaoying discuss pregnancy brain vs. normal brain, blood pressure, energy, and postpartum challenges.
• Jiaoying humorously likens pregnancy-induced weight loss to “baby Ozempic” [06:01]; Khalyla jokes about feeling “dumb” post-birth.
• Discussion of gestational diabetes, cultural perceptions of toughness in motherhood, and being tested by love and in-laws.

3. Internet Drama: The “Canadian Influencer” Controversy

[09:21 - 15:59]

• Jiaoying recounts a viral incident at her Hollywood comedy club involving the “Kalagaris sisters” (Canadian influencers who pretended to be triplets/teens, crashed her club, and then accused the staff of abuse in their online vlog).
  • “They walk to the host… like, get us the f*** on… they’re reading pedophilia stuff… nobody laugh… Then they left, and posted we were sexually abused here.” [10:44 - 12:23]
• Resulted in thousands of negative reviews, public accusations, and personal death threats.
• “I got death threats every day. I got phone calls every day… They hacked my TikTok. Changed my profile to Jeffrey Epstein.” [13:06 - 14:00]
• The group discusses the wider impact of manufactured internet drama and cancel culture:
  • “If you were a white dude, this would have never happened.” – Peter Kim [15:26]
  • Khalyla: “You’ve already done what you needed to do. Put your phone down and just take care of yourself and that baby, you know?” [15:29]
• Comics resolve to turn trauma into comedy: "I already have 10 minutes on it, too. I'm very excited." – Jiaoying [15:55]

4. “Han,” Intergenerational Rage & Cultural Stereotypes

[16:02 - 19:48]

• Peter explains “Han”—Korean generational rage from centuries of oppression:
  • “Han is the feeling of a slow, bubbling rage… being abused over and over… by China and Japan and Mongolia.” [17:07]
• Discussion of anger in Asian cultures, with Jiaoying reflecting, “Being a Chinese woman, you can’t be angry. Being angry—extremely unattractive… they think I'm bringing shame to China.” [18:36]
• The crew bond over negative feedback from their own communities, racist beauty standards, and how online abuse manifests specifically for Asian creators.
  • Jiaoying: “You are so ugly… you look like a Filipina slave from Hong Kong.” [19:08]
  • Peter: “You’re gay, you’re loud, you’re ugly, you look like Bobby Lee… it’s the same kind of thing.” [19:51]

5. Attachment Styles, Relationship Toxicity & Setting the Bar High

[25:00 - 36:48]

• Hilarious honesty about anxious and avoidant attachment styles, “toxic” breakup/abandonment scripts, and coming to terms with therapy.
• “I'd rather kill myself than talk.” – Peter Kim [32:35]
• All admit to pre-planning their next breakup or abandonment in their heads and building emotional walls post-heartbreak.
• “When we are broken… when we love someone, we give them a piece of our heart… I'll buy you things I can't afford… and then when it’s over, you’re like, I don’t want this anymore.” – Jiaoying [28:34]
• Dick is cheap, peace is expensive: “Good dick is not expensive, peace is expensive.” [29:17]
• Peter: “As a man hating man, I don’t hate men… But I hate men as an idea.” [29:32]
• Struggles with giving partners verbal affection, preferring acts of service, and being emotionally avoidant (“My partner wants me to say, ‘good job,’ but it makes my skin crawl.” – Peter Kim [30:51])
• Parental origins of self-criticism and generational passing of trauma.

6. Parenting, Mothers, & the Costs of Generational Pressure

[37:06 - 44:09]

• Deep dive into their mothers’ martyr complexes, indirect communication, and the struggle to bridge Asian values and American directness.
• “My mother…all of these expectations and when you don't meet a single thing, it's like, how could you do this to me?” – Peter Kim [37:19]
• Describing how their own inner voice carries their mother’s judgements and expectations.
• Khalyla shares how her own mother evolved, with therapy and medication, into a present, kinder grandma. (“She is an evolved woman, a present grandma, the kindest mother.” [41:46])

7. Asian Cultural Values vs. American Life – Keep Your Shoes Off!

[61:14 - 67:00]

• Non-negotiables: “If you don’t take your shoes off at the door, you're a heathen.” – Khalyla [62:54]
• The group bonds over Asian aversion to care homes (“Parents come home to live with you unless truly impossible”), and the full-circle karma of caregiving.
• Banter about “airport jeans” in bed and why house hygiene is sacred.

8. Sex, Gender Roles, & What Makes a Good Partner

[66:33 - 77:59]

• Candid, hilarious chat about performing (“or not performing”) blowjobs, cultural differences between Asian and white partners, and how effort—sometimes as a form of power—enters sexual relationships.
  • “If you're gonna give a blowjob, you give it all the way.” – Jiaoying [66:39]
  • “Every blowjob I give it's going to be your last… you better believe it.” – Peter Kim [67:11]
• They touch on why “old dad” energy (practical, calm, reliable) is attractive and grounding vs. perpetual Peter Pan partners.

9. Jealousy, Dating Preferences, and Relationship Red (and Green) Flags

[72:06 - 77:03]

• Dissecting “Asian fetish” and why being someone’s first Asian is less problematic than being one of a long history (“I’m the first Asian, thank God.” – Jiaoying [73:49])
• Peter: “If he dated another comedian, that's a redder flag than [only] dating Asians!” [75:02]
• Aligning on comedy, art and taste in relationships. Ultimately, it's more important to feel safe and calm than to match on pop culture knowledge.

10. How Jiaoying Met Her (Current) Man & The Joy of Brutal Honesty

[77:10 - 80:39]

• Jiaoying tells how she “trapped” her now-partner: “You spend time with me, you’ll freak out. I want him to see me unmasked completely.”
• She put him through a “test tour,” house arrest, meeting her kids, and was upfront about her mess (“Something's wrong with you. You choose to suffer. Don't complain later.” [79:00])
• Her fiancé’s steady, gentle presence anchors her family. He’s “the only dad [her kids] know.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On toxic self-deprecation and Asian identity:
  “I think being a Chinese woman, you can’t be angry. Being angry—extremely unattractive. …They think I’m too angry, too aggressive, too obnoxious.” – Jiaoying Summers [18:36]

• Redefining sexual labor as power:
  "Every blowjob I give, it’s like, it's going to be your last… you better believe it." – Peter Kim [67:11]

• On being “broken” and rebuilding:
  “I think it’s because we were broken and we had to piece it back together ourselves. So, I don't need anyone else… you have to be bonus.” – Peter Kim [28:01]

• On the parenting double standard:
  “My mother…wants to be treated like an elder and respected, but she doesn’t want to do any communication… wants to do the fixing, but makes you the fixer.” – Khalyla [39:27]

• On the impossibility of Asian parental standards:
  "She wanted the horse to be a good horse, want the horse to run fast, also don’t want the horse to eat any grass… You want the impossible.” – Jiaoying Summers [61:49]

• On finding the right partner:
  “My bar is much higher now… It’s easier for me to be miserable by myself than putting up with any.” – Jiaoying Summers [27:43]

• Turning drama into material:
  “I already have 10 minutes on [the influencer controversy], too. I'm very excited!” – Jiaoying Summers [15:55]

• Riotous closing: “Chinaman’s hat. To me, it’s an island… it looked like the bamboo hat. They call it Chinaman’s hat. I mean, it’s kind of racist.” – Jiaoying Summers [80:08]

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Important Timestamps

• [01:21] – Jiaoying’s pregnancy, breadwinner status, family structure
• [03:01] – Half-white vs. “pure Chinese” kids, cultural biases in parenting
• [09:21] – The Kalagaris sisters controversy, comedy industry drama
• [16:02] – Peter Kim explains “Han” and intergenerational rage
• [25:00] – Toxic relationship attachment, humor about handling conflict
• [31:38] – On offering or withholding verbal affirmation in relationships
• [41:46] – Khalyla’s mom as “evolved woman” post-therapy, Lexapro
• [51:05] – Cloning, personhood, and Asian “prototypes”
• [62:54] – Non-negotiable Asian cultural customs
• [66:39] – “If you’re gonna give a blowjob, you give it all the way”
• [75:02] – The horror of partners who exclusively date comedians
• [77:10] – How Jiaoying “tested” and kept her man

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Overall Tone

Outrageous, brutally candid, raucously funny, and deeply empathetic—this episode was an unfiltered exploration of Asian-American identity, family baggage, generational healing, toxic love languages, and why being “broken” can be both a comedy goldmine and a source of hard-won wisdom. The chemistry between the guests and hosts was as cutting as it was comforting, making the show both cathartic and genuinely hilarious.

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For More

• Jiaoying Summers: @jiaoyingsummers / jiaoyingcomedy.com
• Peter Kim: Half-hour special coming to YouTube soon!

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Transcript

[Jowyng Summers]

I have a Jiao Ying curse that my grandma who died, she placed. Whoever crossed me dies in three years. Or getting really brain. Like brain tumor is worse than dying.

[Peter Kim]

Do not cross J. Summers. She's got a curse.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's not me. Yes, it's a Chinese feng shui. You got feng shui.

[Podcast Host 1]

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[Peter Kim]

Hey, slugs. What's up? It's your boy, Peter Kim. I'm just coming on here to quickly say that my comedy special Rice Piglet is on YouTube. It's on my channel. You can go watch it. It's a great special to just grab someone you love and watch it together. Send it to your friends, send it to your enemies, whatever. Get the numbers up, sluggies. Love you. Bye.

[Jowyng Summers]

Look, I am six months.

[Podcast Host 2]

Six months. You look great.

[Jowyng Summers]

Thank you. It's. It's a. It's so. It's so much. You're always tired, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Your first one. Oh, it's my. It's my third one.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, third one.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, cool.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

John, a pro.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Is it easier?

[Jowyng Summers]

I. I feel different because my first two. My marriage was very abusive, but I wasn't working. I was a housewife. I'm sitting around picking up like, don't do. So it was a full time slave. Like, I'm running around. Yeah. My fiance is nice, my boy, my husband's nice. But I'm like, I had to work, which is hard.

[Podcast Host 2]

Are you still the. Technically the breadwinner?

[Jowyng Summers]

I think so. He didn't want me to say that, but that's the truth.

[Podcast Host 2]

There's nothing wrong with that, by the way. I think that, you know, my partner has a very big boy, respectable job, but like, you know, it is hot and very, like blue collar. And he's very well respected in his field. But, you know, mama comes through.

[Peter Kim]

You're the breadwinner in your home too.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think that I still, I think, make more than him.

[Peter Kim]

One, two, three, all three?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. Yes. We. Yeah. I don't make dinner. I make money. I definitely do that.

[Podcast Host 2]

But how does this one feel? Like, different. Like physically. Are you. Are you just. Does your body like go, oh, I remember this.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I think so. It just. I'm older now too, so it's kind of not as easy, as exciting as it used to be. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Was it a surprise?

[Jowyng Summers]

I. I wasn't. We were. We. We would want to have kids, but we were planning on trying it after six months and then just. We tried one time. It worked. I'm like, I'm. I have to keep it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

It could be a boy, you know.

[Peter Kim]

You have two girls?

[Jowyng Summers]

I have a boy and a girl.

[Peter Kim]

Boy and a girl.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. This one is half white. My other two is a pure Chinese, like okay, Chinese, Chinese kids.

[Peter Kim]

This one's a favorite.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't know my mom's favorite because she's racist. But I like my. I like my.

[Peter Kim]

You like your full Chinese kids?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. My, my first, my son, he's a little fragile and weak, so I like him. He needs more love. My daughter is a savage. She's gonna be okay.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

You guys, you've seen her on our show before. You've seen her on Tiger Belly. She is so, so funny. She's my favorite import from China. Everyone. Jia Ying, Summer.

[Jowyng Summers]

And of course you know my shoes, Can I do that? Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Take it off.

[Jowyng Summers]

You are so comfy.

[Podcast Host 2]

And of course I think that you're my favorite new sidekick and maybe we should have an offshoot because oh my God, we talk too much together. We're non stop.

[Peter Kim]

We're going to get in trouble.

[Podcast Host 2]

But my favorite Bobby look alike.

[Peter Kim]

He's back.

[Podcast Host 2]

Peter Kim.

[Jowyng Summers]

Peter Kim. I love the hair.

[Peter Kim]

Thank you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Good hair, good Asian hair.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wait, so tell me about your half white baby. Cuz I'm, you know, I'm wean.

[Jowyng Summers]

You are wean. So he, he's. I think he's well behaved. He's doing the best he can to make me like him. My morning sickness was three months. It was very bad. That was a hard part is because when I can't eat, I am slow. People think when you become skinny you're hot and smart, but no, you're dumb.

[Peter Kim]

Do you feel like when you're pregnant you get like powerful people treat you better.

[Podcast Host 2]

When I was pregnant, I felt psychologically the best I ever felt.

[Peter Kim]

Oh.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think that's because my baseline is I have low blood pressure and I have pots so the blood doesn't travel up to my brain fast. Enough when I'm not pregnant. When I'm pregnant, you have so much blood flow everywhere that I'm like, oh, I think this is how my brain is supposed to work normally. And I was like, calm, chill, happy, like just on fire and very sharp. I mean, I created a whole like business. Fully pregnant, you know. And then when I gave birth, I was like, oh, I'm back to being dumb again. I'm so dumb now. Like, I am like shocked by how dumb I am.

[Peter Kim]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think the price they bring is gonna stay for like two years. Oh yeah. You get back in the game.

[Podcast Host 2]

I hope so. I hope so. I mean I'm, I'm approaching, you know, that time and I still feel a little dumb. But we'll see.

[Jowyng Summers]

You look stunning.

[Podcast Host 2]

Thank you. Yes, thank you.

[Jowyng Summers]

You always do.

[Podcast Host 2]

You know I got paralyzed in my face when I gave birth, right?

[Jowyng Summers]

I, I didn't, I, I. How, which part?

[Podcast Host 2]

This side. Oh my God. I gotta show you guys pictures, but like two days after I gave birth I was in the hospital and all of a sudden I thought I was having a stroke. And this whole side just like decided to, you know, off.

[Peter Kim]

It's better now.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's better, but it still lags. But it's, it's good. It's my new face. You like it?

[Jowyng Summers]

You guys like it? It's beautiful. Thank you.

[Peter Kim]

They always said you were two faced

[Podcast Host 2]

Harvey Dent baby, but yeah. I'm hoping your pregnancy is going well.

[Jowyng Summers]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think it's congrats on your half white baby.

[Jowyng Summers]

Thank you. He's, he's sweet. Yeah, I think so.

[Peter Kim]

You can tell already?

[Jowyng Summers]

I can tell he's obedient.

[Peter Kim]

Obedient?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

How do you know?

[Jowyng Summers]

I think my morning sickness got over faster with this one than the Chinese kids. I, I was very scared when I was on stage. I felt I wasn't fast enough because of, because of my brain doesn't, it's not as sharp because I couldn't eat. I threw up every meal, so I'm starving. I was skinny though. I call him baby Ozempic because I lost so much weight on him. Oh, fierce. Okay, then I start eat. I start become a cow again. I love it. I just eat anything, everything I eat and I, I can use my brain again. So I'm happy. So this baby morning 60 was, was faster than the other two. The Chinese kids. They, I threw up until delivery room. That's what they did to me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hyperemesis gravidarum hd.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's, she's, she's trying to tell me she's stumped.

[Podcast Host 2]

She thinks GD is just seasonal diabetes. No, hyperemesis from beginning to end.

[Jowyng Summers]

I have a gestational diabetes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, you do? Really?

[Jowyng Summers]

Now I'm trying to monitor so I don't get.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, yeah. My sister in law had the same thing.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, it's very hard. It's hard to be a mom. That's what moms are.

[Peter Kim]

You. And you're doing it again.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't know why I did it. I just.

[Peter Kim]

You love that white guy so much.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's cute. I love him.

[Peter Kim]

I mean, but you gotta like really love someone to like put yourself through that, huh? And I have a white partner.

[Jowyng Summers]

I've been tested.

[Peter Kim]

You've been tested? For what?

[Jowyng Summers]

For, for how much I love him.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, you're being tested?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. He's cute. He's a sweetheart.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. He's. He's white. He's like 100 white. Cleveland, Ohio white.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, mine's from Minnesota.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, they are.

[Peter Kim]

Those are white white walkers.

[Jowyng Summers]

Really white.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's sweet. He's easy to abuse. He's can.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, mine too. They eat whatever you give them.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I love it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, he's sweet. My first husband's my, the father of my other Chinese kids. He's Chinese, so I don't know this boy. He just, he's very American. He, he, he tried to. He loves my culture. He used chopsticks.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

He likes spicy food.

[Peter Kim]

Is he trying to learn language?

[Jowyng Summers]

He's undulingo for a year now.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wow.

[Peter Kim]

I've been with my guy 10 years. He doesn't know anything yet. That so you got a better one?

[Jowyng Summers]

I, he's, the thing about him is that my, my daughter did not have a father. I think I told K about it that she was pissed because my, my ex, Chinese ex would only pick up my son. My daughter would be like, daddy. He'd be like, just look at her. Like she was 2. She was like 1 and 2. So she was traumatized. So my Newman stabby and he's the dad for Margot. Oh, I love, he loves Margot. She loves him. She doesn't understand why she has a white dad. She literally think that's her dad.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Jowyng Summers]

And my son also love him.

[Peter Kim]

So he's like, oh, wow, you have all the kids.

[Jowyng Summers]

I have two. Yeah, I got the kids. I, I, I, he took the money, I took the kids because I don't believe in happiness.

[Peter Kim]

Which is why you're pregnant again.

[Jowyng Summers]

I know. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like kids are Blessings, you know, future blessings. Future, future. I, I just. When they are close to me, I. I know what's going on. When they don't live with me, I just. I don't know.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, how.

[Jowyng Summers]

How about they're getting bullied? How about they're getting fat, you know?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, they can't get fat.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can't tell them.

[Peter Kim]

Not in China.

[Jowyng Summers]

No. Not in China.

[Peter Kim]

No. China's kind of become like Korea, right?

[Jowyng Summers]

It's like, no, Korea, China, Japan. I think it's healthy at the workplace. If you're overweight, they give you a notice. Listen, you are overweight. There's resources, there's diet, there's exercise. It save you money, you know, you might go, oh, you can't say that. It's body shaming.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, I know.

[Jowyng Summers]

Okay, you can. You can suffer in your own. I don't give a.

[Peter Kim]

Can I ask you about something? You could. We could cut this out if you don't want to talk about it. I just recently saw your video about the three came to your.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, yes.

[Peter Kim]

About that or.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, of course.

[Peter Kim]

Sure.

[Jowyng Summers]

They are you okay? Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Because I'm fascinated and I also, as a comic, I feel bad, but also

[Podcast Host 2]

I want to preface this by saying if it stresses you out in any way, like to talk about it, we really don't have.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, it's okay. I'm from the dumpster. This is just the Tuesday.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, okay.

[Peter Kim]

This. This is trash Tuesday.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, we're putting in trash.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, let's go. Let's throw this in the bin.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm so excited. Let's do this.

[Peter Kim]

What's going on? Can you explain?

[Jowyng Summers]

Okay, you guys know comedy. Love comedy. Do comedy and you understand stand is art. And you know, for open mics, I have one of the biggest open mic comedy club in Los Angeles is Almros, called the Hollywood comedy. So Normally we have 10 hours per day, Mike. Every hour there's mic going on. So the procedures, you sign up the day before and you are unslotted. Every hour we have eight comics and then one host. You five minutes, you rotate. So. So those are three influencers from Canada. They. They are called the Kalagaris sisters.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wait, they're Canadian.

[Jowyng Summers]

Canadian. Canadian.

[Peter Kim]

Triplets.

[Jowyng Summers]

They are fake triplets. They are actually 18, 24, 26. They are not.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, they're sisters.

[Jowyng Summers]

They pretend to be teenagers and they pretend to be triplets.

[Podcast Host 2]

But are they sisters?

[Jowyng Summers]

They are sisters.

[Peter Kim]

They pretend to be teenagers.

[Jowyng Summers]

So they came to my club without signing up and they walk to the host and they basically is like, get Us the on. They have their phone filming everyone because they need doing the vlog. So the. My host is a little Japanese Mexican mix, the sushi burrito. He's. He's like a short and small and cute. He look like a labubu. His long hair. He's cute like you want to breastfeed him. He's so cute and sweet and. But he's too young. So he's like really nice. If I was get off, get the out, you know. But he, he was like, oh, let me call my manager. But. But then we can't fit them in. There's no room. They didn't sign up. So he tried to get them in. Those girls got on stage, they're reading off their phone. Cringy. They're reading pedophilia stuff. They're like, guys like me more because. Because I'm 12. I'm like, don't talk about your father that way. So they like, they were like, then nobody laugh you, all of you. It's. It's on their camera like a sketch.

[Peter Kim]

Oh my God.

[Jowyng Summers]

They are like cursing out everyone. Then they left.

[Podcast Host 2]

But they show that on their camera.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Isn't that cringy on their vlog?

[Jowyng Summers]

No. Their fans are like 8 year old, 14 year old girls.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's what I was thinking too. I was like, it has to be that like the. Be that their fan base is like literally children, right?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Yes. They also like kind of groom the kids because they are not 14. Those bitches are in their 20s.

[Peter Kim]

Their 20s?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. But they pretend they're like. They talk like little kids again.

[Peter Kim]

Oh my God, jmail world, I'm gonna freak out. What's happening? Okay.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's hilarious. They got back to the car. They literally like we were sexually abused here. We were harassed here. Do you think they are. They are sexually harassed. Is that someone said they want to jerk off to them?

[Peter Kim]

That's like what a comic like rift on them afterwards.

[Jowyng Summers]

They were like, someone just said that. Oh, there are three there. Cuz there's three girls and their husband. I don't know. They're. They are sister wives. I don't know. So walk in the comedian on stage like, oh, we finally have three attractive people walking in. That's what he said. Oh, there's nothing. There's no abuse. But they say, they're saying my staff, my Barry, the, the little host guy was sexually harassing while they are cursing at him. He didn't do so. Because they said that to their fans. They said that we were mean to them is like a predator. The owner is a predator and whatever.

[Peter Kim]

Aren't you the owner?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

They don't know you.

[Jowyng Summers]

You weren't even there. Exactly. So they basically end up giving us thousands of 1 star reviews on my Google and Yelp send me.

[Peter Kim]

Their followers are doing other fans.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Because they are telling them they're being secretly harassed at my club because you know. Yeah. We didn't ask him to do. I said you lied. You. You lied about it. So now we. I got death threats every day. I got phone calls every day.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, can you sue?

[Jowyng Summers]

I just don't have time and the money I have. I have money to do it. But like if I go to court, I have to cancel my tour because I have to go to court.

[Peter Kim]

Can I go as you?

[Jowyng Summers]

I mean you can.

[Peter Kim]

I'll put a little cat eye on you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Looks beautiful. You're perfect. You're perfect though. But anyway, so there's death threats. Ask me chink. You should kill yourself. And then they hacked my. My Tick Tock. Change it to.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, wait, are you talking about that? What? What?

[Jowyng Summers]

The SM one. They know. I think you have to have money to hacking. Like my Tick Tock. Change my profile to Jeffrey Epstein. I have three private jets. I'm like, the only difference between me and Jeffrey Epstein is like I didn't kill myself.

[Peter Kim]

Oh my God. How did they hack into your Instagram? You could pay someone to do that.

[Jowyng Summers]

You can pay. Yeah, you can.

[Podcast Host 3]

Bae.

[Peter Kim]

Did you know that?

[Podcast Host 2]

I mean, I believe everything now.

[Peter Kim]

No, actually my ex boyfriends better watch out.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. But anyways, so we send a season. This is order to them. And this went back to me. What they asked me to apologize to them.

[Podcast Host 2]

The owner who wasn't even there. What do they exactly want to do?

[Jowyng Summers]

Public apology.

[Peter Kim]

That's how you know it's not real.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like whatever. Off.

[Peter Kim]

Wow.

[Podcast Host 2]

Have you been able to ever just been like, hey, do you want to just like chat about this person privately? Because this is like out of control.

[Jowyng Summers]

My club manager, when they left, they post a video. She didn't know what happened. She didn't know how they behave there. So she reached out like, oh, let me ask about your experiences. Maybe there's some comics that's something you don't want. But they just ignored it. They just kept all they wanted. They want the video to be up. They want a lies to be up. They wanted the click and the bit, the, the. The. The clouds, you know, they. That's how they make money is what

[Podcast Host 2]

a strange world we live in.

[Podcast Host 3]

I'M sorry. So confused.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, they really are making me sad about Canadians, you know?

[Podcast Host 2]

But I will tell you this. You know, my experience of being rinsed by the Internet is completely different. But I do know firsthand how horrible it is to be singled out in this way. And, like, have the droves of people just come after you and say things that are so untrue and, like, tell you to kill yourself? Like, it is so demoralizing.

[Peter Kim]

If you were a white dude, this would have never happened.

[Jowyng Summers]

No, it won't.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's so demoralizing. But I want to say, I told you this on the phone. It's like. Like, if you can. If you can, you've already done what you needed to do. Put your phone down and just take care of yourself and that baby, you know?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I think I'm good.

[Podcast Host 2]

So then the Internet's just nasty, man.

[Peter Kim]

And guys, go put on some. Let's balance out some reviews for Hollywood comedy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yeah. If you're a travel, at least we

[Jowyng Summers]

could do that materials. About those. It's gonna be good.

[Peter Kim]

You're gonna have a whole hour.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm gonna. I already have 10 minutes on it, too. I'm very excited. I'm doing tonight.

[Peter Kim]

I could already. I feel that. And it's called Han.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You know that energy that like.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I'm. I'm so good. I'm good. Tonight. I'm going to run the jokes on them.

[Podcast Host 2]

I will say happy for you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Podcast Host 2]

The Han.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I have a little of bit of

[Podcast Host 3]

beef with the Han.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm tired of, like, Korean men.

[Peter Kim]

Like, did you see that? I got so upset.

[Podcast Host 2]

I am tired of Korean men defending the Han and thinking that it's just this internal thing.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's a Korean queen, though.

[Peter Kim]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

But do you know what I mean?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Are you gonna defend the Hun?

[Peter Kim]

I'm already defending because I have, like, a frog in my throat right now. I can't even talk. Calm down. Chill out.

[Podcast Host 2]

If you were straight, you would have already, like, beat, like, three of you.

[Peter Kim]

I would have screamed. No, I agree that we do hide behind it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

We should be going to therapy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I just think that it is a quick shorthand for Asians because it's so widely known that this is a Korean male issue.

[Podcast Host 2]

Can you explain to the audience what the Han is?

[Jowyng Summers]

The Han is Chinese Han. Right? What is it?

[Peter Kim]

Or, like, that's funny. Han is the feeling of a slow, bubbling rage that comes from being abused over and over and over and over again by China and Japan. And Mongolia.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. So it's a generational thing.

[Peter Kim]

Thousands. Because we're a little peninsula. We're like little ball sack at the end of China.

[Podcast Host 2]

My beef with it is when someone is, you know, the Han comes out and it is pure destruction. But then it's like, I'm sorry. This wasn't me. This was the Han. This is my lineage that is speaking

[Peter Kim]

where I'm just like, I don't agree with that. I don't agree.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm like, no, no, no. You don't get to act this way because you're Korean. Like, it's crazy.

[Peter Kim]

We're accountable. But, you know, a little.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a red zone, basically. Red zone. They black out in a rage.

[Peter Kim]

I'm just letting you know, when you're dealing with a Korean man, there is a demon inside. So just always remember, it's like, you know, when you're dealing with a rich man, there's a pedophile inside. You're dealing with someone else in there.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, Got it. Got it.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God. That's so funny.

[Jowyng Summers]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

That was my only beef with it, but I did get defensive.

[Peter Kim]

I'm sorry for bringing that energy. I.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's okay. I. It's okay. I have a son, so I want him to be. Have excuse to be an.

[Peter Kim]

Do you have, like, Chinese rage?

[Jowyng Summers]

I think is being a Chinese woman is. You can't be angry. Being angry. Extremely unattractive.

[Peter Kim]

Right.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think in China, younger, stronger girls like me because they want to be more free. But most of them of the older Chinese establishments don't. Don't like me because they think I'm too angry, too aggressive, too obnoxious, that I'm bringing shame to China. You can see on right note, the abuse I get on right note is next level, really ugly. You are so fat. You are. Your skin's so dark. You look like a Filipina slave from Hong Kong.

[Podcast Host 2]

When they throw my people in there,

[Jowyng Summers]

they are beauty queens.

[Podcast Host 2]

So offensive to me.

[Jowyng Summers]

So offensive.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm throw white people in there for no damn reason.

[Jowyng Summers]

Everything about the Filipinas, they are beautiful queens. Like, they. They have big lips, the dark skin. They're all beauty standard. But in China, you want. They want you. No, you want bleach skin.

[Peter Kim]

In Korea, too. It's so.

[Jowyng Summers]

They hate me so much. Like, they're just like, you're so ugly

[Peter Kim]

and you're not even dark.

[Jowyng Summers]

We'll give you a voice to talk.

[Peter Kim]

Let me see your. Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Kind of a little darker than you. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. But for China, you're dark.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm very dark. So they just, they tell me I'm ugly actually. Shut up. But like, I'm bringing shame to Chinese woman. Oh yeah, it's so cute. I'm just like you guys.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, that's how, that's what the Koreans say about me.

[Jowyng Summers]

What do they say?

[Peter Kim]

You're gay, you're loud, you're ugly, you look like Bobby Lee. Every. All of it. Like, it's, it's the same similar kind of thing.

[Jowyng Summers]

They also say Bobby Lee too.

[Peter Kim]

Well, we, we do a little.

[Podcast Host 2]

To be fair, Jing does get those. Catches those strays once in a while. Any Asian if I think it's like Cherry Cola Joying.

[Peter Kim]

Any Asian if you have a face and you're Asian, you look like Bobby Lee.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Who I think is extremely attractive, by the way. I dated for 10 years and Bobby's a cutie. He's so hot to me.

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[Peter Kim]

I understand Bobby's cuteness because I have the same cuteness that only like, certain white guys. No Asians, and most blacks.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like, same here.

[Peter Kim]

Right? Black men. I love black men because. Oh, my God, it's a Bruce Lee.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's. They get it.

[Peter Kim]

It's the Wuhan clan.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

There is a. I, I, growing up in New York, the Asians and the black Americans, African Americans, whatever, had mostly Jamaicans, had this, like, unity because there's a cultural sharing, like the rush hour and, like, the idea of, like, black and Asians coming together. Of course, you know, there is racism.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

But that's it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Everywhere is everywhere.

[Podcast Host 2]

So, like, you've never dated an Asian guy?

[Peter Kim]

I've dated a. I feel like a

[Podcast Host 2]

Filipino would be very much into you.

[Peter Kim]

Filipinos are into me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

But they never approach. I think it's because I'm bigger and I.

[Jowyng Summers]

They want you to approach.

[Peter Kim]

And that's why I think black guys like me, because they're attracted to, like, like, bigger and loud.

[Jowyng Summers]

They like you to opinion yourself.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, but like, a Korean guy. You've never dated a Korean guy?

[Peter Kim]

No, and I don't think I should.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why?

[Peter Kim]

First of all, I'm partnered. I would never date.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, I know that. But, like, hypothetically.

[Peter Kim]

Hypothetically, it would be fire and fire. So that's just destruction. The sex would be good.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

And the travel, like, all, like the.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, yeah. You know, day, two days.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, but, like, the fighting would burn the house down.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think so. I think so. I can't date a guy who is not calm. My. My Zhang is very Zen. He just. He's. He's calm.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I also just have this. I. You know, it's a. It's an idea that circulates. It's been circulating for a while, but I kind of do agree with it in that like they say that the. The biggest like a man hating the one who's always like, dudes, men ain't men. And always have the best boyfriends, always have the best partners. If you have a man hating woman, which sometimes I can be.

[Peter Kim]

I don't understand how you are a woman and you don't hate men.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I just don't understand that there are some.

[Podcast Host 2]

Honestly there and. And it's not even. I don't. I don't hate to pick me. I like, feel for a pick me because I feel like at one point I was a pick me, like in my early 20s. And I think that all girls go through. Everyone goes through that era of pick me. So I have a lot of like, empathy for people who act very pick me for someone like me who has so much like just unbridled rage towards like a gender sometimes I won't put up with anymore. So like, so your bars. So my bar is so extremely high.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. You feel like that with your ex?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes, I definitely. My bar is much higher now. Like, I. It's easier for me to be miserable by myself than putting up is any.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Honey.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. In order for you to like, disrupt this piece that's going on, like, you better be exceptional.

[Peter Kim]

I think it's because we were broken and we had to piece it back together ourselves. So it's like, oh, I don't need anyone else.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I don't come in. You have to be bonus.

[Jowyng Summers]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host 2]

You either have to add so much into my life or don't even like, enter it at all.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like, yeah, for sure.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I think it does come from the fact that, like, it was so humiliating for me. Like, I love Bobby so much. Right. He's one of my best friends. But that relationship was like, like, so brutal when it ended for me. And it hurts so much that, like, after that I was like, oh, it's just me and my cats and dogs. Like, I truly was like, I don't want to be around any dude because

[Jowyng Summers]

you're laughing so hard. That's the thing when we are broken. Like when we love someone, we give them a piece of our heart. That's it. Like, I. I want to. I don't want to be. I want to give everything. Why I'm with someone because I'm so broken. I feel like, okay, is you and I against the world. I'll cook for you. I'll. I'll buy you things I can't afford for myself. I will. I'll bring peace to you. I'll make sure. I'll invest in your dreams, you know, like, we'll do everything. And then when ended, you're like, I don't want this anymore. I'd rather cry by myself.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

And so now anyone is not worthy for you. Coming in, you're like, hard wall. Yeah. Bye. I can get good dicks if I want to.

[Podcast Host 2]

Exactly. You just have to yell out a window.

[Peter Kim]

Dick is cheap.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, it is.

[Peter Kim]

Cheap pieces. Expensive.

[Podcast Host 2]

Very expensive. So girls set the bar very high.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Men and women, set your bar high.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. And here's the thing. Like, as a man hating man, I don't hate men. Clearly. I love them.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

But I hate men as an idea.

[Podcast Host 3]

Me too.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's just you actually named. You said it exactly. Exactly how you said it is how,

[Peter Kim]

like, I love men enough to hate them. You can't hate someone you don't actually love. Like, it's kind of this. But the hate is so strong because I'm like, you could be better as an idea. You know? Like, every man is obviously different. You know, like, we. We found new men.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

After some destruction. So it's not impossible.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's not impossible.

[Peter Kim]

But it's more of like, we allowed such a. Like, low bar.

[Podcast Host 2]

But then also I do this thing

[Podcast Host 3]

that I now kind of regret.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, I should stop doing this. Where I don't give him his flowers ever. I never say, babe, you're just the best I've ever had. I never. And then. But I'm on the phone with my sister. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so lucky. I hope he never leaves me. If he leaves me, I'll die. Like, I. I say all of these amazing things about him, but to his face, I'm like, kind of a, like, cunt.

[Podcast Host 1]

I didn't.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. I need to. Same here. I think it's the Asian thing.

[Podcast Host 2]

Me too.

[Peter Kim]

I can't do it.

[Podcast Host 2]

But I love him so much.

[Peter Kim]

I already start feeling like I'm gonna throw up. I can't do it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. I just can't say it to him. And he's like, you never appreciate me. You never do anything. I'm just like, you're here. What do you want? But you are here, though, you know?

[Peter Kim]

But my partner wants me to say, like, oh, good job. You really did that.

[Jowyng Summers]

They need it.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, it makes my skin crawl.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't.

[Jowyng Summers]

You're not a dog.

[Peter Kim]

I cooked for you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

What do you want? I cleaned.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. I'm literally like, I'm. I'm Stuck in a right now. Yeah, this is what I do.

[Peter Kim]

My hair is messed up because of the calm. Like.

[Jowyng Summers]

Exactly.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

They just wanted to be like, good job. See, like, say, good job. You did. You did great. You know, the lunch was great. I'm like, yes, you give good dick. Good steak. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Meat, meat, meat.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Those are the gold star babies. And here. Gold star. In a different way, I am that kind of baby. So I never got affirmed with words when I was younger, ever so. But I crave it now. So if you don't tell me I'm doing a good job, I will, like, combust.

[Peter Kim]

I never crave. It's your white side.

[Podcast Host 2]

Really.

[Peter Kim]

I never. I never crave words of affirmation. I do crave anonymous validation, which is why.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Peter Kim]

That's why I do comedy.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think we. We need people to love us, like, all people to love us.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. But I. I need strangers to love me. I have intimacy issues.

[Jowyng Summers]

I have.

[Peter Kim]

I don't, like, intimate with people. I know.

[Jowyng Summers]

I. I don't like it.

[Peter Kim]

I really don't like it.

[Jowyng Summers]

I. I'm avoidant.

[Peter Kim]

Me too.

[Jowyng Summers]

My. My husband trying to fix. Fix my avoidance. Whenever I am angry, I'm calling my. Calling my divorce lawyer. I'm like, okay, yeah, you can have the house. You can have this. I'll make more money, you know, Take this. Yeah, you can have the white baby. I'll see him half the time.

[Peter Kim]

You have a problem.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's like, what?

[Peter Kim]

What?

[Podcast Host 3]

What?

[Peter Kim]

Can we just talk?

[Podcast Host 2]

What?

[Peter Kim]

I'd rather kill myself than talk.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, exactly. I want to kill myself.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. I don't want to ever talk.

[Jowyng Summers]

I pay very good insurance. This is money for you. You can get a younger version.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, are we toxic?

[Jowyng Summers]

I think we are.

[Podcast Host 2]

I said, why?

[Jowyng Summers]

Why are you so stupid? You can take the money and find a younger version of me who don't talk back.

[Peter Kim]

This is a gift for you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Because I love you. That's why I'm giving you this.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm gonna erase myself. I'm not changing anything. Toxic. I love it. Oh, my gosh. We are toxic.

[Peter Kim]

It's too late. I tell my boyfriend all the time, like, it's too late for me to change. We just have to work around it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

We just work around here to stay.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

You've done enough. The Korean world.

[Peter Kim]

I'm like a big tree. Like, you just have to, like, you

[Jowyng Summers]

know, build around it over one little thing. I would have a mental breakdown. I'll just be like, it's okay. You. You, you. You Are better off without me. Yeah. You can take the kids and I'll give you everything. I'll die. I'll go somewhere else. I'll meditate. I'll do something else with my life. You. You do. You do this?

[Podcast Host 2]

That's so funny. I could never. I could never talk to my partner like that.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, so you talk?

[Jowyng Summers]

She has a white in her. She has a gentle in her stream running down her waterfall.

[Peter Kim]

What can we do? We tried to be adjacent to the gentle, but it's just.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I'm a cunt in, like, other ways where it's just like, when I want to fight, I want to fight it through you. Like, you guys are avoidant. Where I'm just like, no. Like, let's. Let's really kind of like, get. But no, like, I can never talk to anyone like, that. I love. I could never.

[Peter Kim]

Whoa, whoa. What?

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, even say, like, I'm gonna divorce or this and that. Yeah. Bye.

[Peter Kim]

I'm ready to burn a bridge at any moment.

[Podcast Host 2]

Really?

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm ready to cut. I'm ready. I'm just, like. I just. I'm so ready.

[Peter Kim]

You're waiting, right? Sometimes I'm in the shower and I just make up a whole argument.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I swear that I do.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

That I do.

[Peter Kim]

I'm fighting.

[Podcast Host 2]

But the way I. I. One of the things that I. If. If I say something really, like cutting or mean, and I say one thing, I feel so horrible. And then, like, maybe later on that night, I'm like, do you ever think about leaving me? You wouldn't leave me, right? You wouldn't just up and leave, and then I'm. I'm that psychopath that's. I feel like that's equally annoying.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. It's both toxic.

[Jowyng Summers]

I feel the same way as you, but I say different. I'm like, so when you leave me, I'm prepared. When you leave me.

[Podcast Host 2]

When I got.

[Jowyng Summers]

When I got. When you get to know me for too well and you want to leave me? I don't know. Don't feel bad. I'm prepared.

[Podcast Host 2]

What if he's like, okay, I'm glad you're prepared. And what if he calls your bluff and is like, okay, cool.

[Jowyng Summers]

I remember one time he called me call my bluff, and then he won't sleep in the same room with me. I came to his room, so just let's talk about it then. I want to vomit. I said, I have to throw up. He's like, what did you say? I said, let's talk about it. Like, is there Any way we can fix it? He's like, are you okay? Should we call your therapist? I said, she fired me.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. And he was shocked. And then he. He felt me being so vulnerable and he. He felt so bad for me. And then he's like, I am sorry if you think I would ever leave you. That was so cute. But I. I was actually scared a bit. Then. Then he. He played me for a while. Like five hours. He won't talk to me. So I just packed up as I'm. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to work. He's like, where are going? I said, I'm gonna go work out. I'm gonna go make some contents and you can take this car. You know, we'll figure it out. You can go to this hotel. I have. I have credits. You can stay there. So I. I don't see what. You take the city together. It's toxic. Yeah. So let's just be separate. I was actually ready because I'm always being abandoned my whole life. So I prepare to be abandoned.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I mean, I would be happy if you come back and beg me. I'll be like, go back to him. But like, I don't want. You're ready to position.

[Podcast Host 3]

To.

[Jowyng Summers]

To beg? No, because I. I begged my mom, my dad, and all of the people I love to not abandon me.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

So at this point, I finally. I couldn't afford mortgage. So I just like, now I have pride.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

At least there's food for me.

[Peter Kim]

I abandon you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. I'll just. I can eat, I can drink. And I. I'm gonna put my. I was thinking about. Okay. That's got revenge body.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Go back to the gym.

[Peter Kim]

Huh? You had a whole plan.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I have a whole plan. So. It's so sad to. To be in that position.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like, you just feel like you don't deserve.

[Podcast Host 2]

You've already, like, crafted out the whole year's worth of like, planning, basically.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, for sure.

[Podcast Host 2]

In the shower and nothing's even happened. You haven't even fought him yet.

[Jowyng Summers]

No, no.

[Podcast Host 2]

I already know.

[Peter Kim]

I've already created an exit plan for every single relationship in my life.

[Podcast Host 2]

When was the last time you begged

[Peter Kim]

through? Two days ago to my mom.

[Podcast Host 3]

What did. What did.

[Peter Kim]

She is. I want to choose wisely because my family watches this show.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

But I am with. On my family's side. So my mother is probably like your mother tiger mom, who is a martyr. So we'll never say anything. This is where we get it from. We don't. She doesn't talk has all of these expectations, and when you don't meet a single thing, it's like, how could you do this to me? I do everything for you. And you know, like, I sacrificed my life and you have given me nothing. And it's just this victim, victim, victim. And she's doing that currently. And it is hard. I'm like begging her to see it their way and be like, you've never communicated that to them. You should say something. This is all in your head. You're a psycho. You know, like, I'm really like trying to be like, mom, please listen to yourself. You're saying all these things about your family member that you made up and you haven't said a single thing to them.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

And she will not seed. She will not, like, admit that's such a losing game. It's crazy because she's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, well, how would she know that? Could you just explain it to her? She's like, I don't care to explain to her. It's like, I don't. I don't even care if they don't. You know, she wants to be treated like an elder and like respected and. But he doesn't have a Korean wife. She's Mexican. So like, they don't have that culture.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's culturally is different.

[Peter Kim]

So you have to tell him or her.

[Podcast Host 2]

There are some coaching involved for sure.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

So like almost saying it to me so that I tell him like, hey, you should make sure mom feels like respected. As an elder.

[Podcast Host 2]

I really don't love this because I feel like my mom kind of does

[Podcast Host 3]

the same thing where she will plant the seeds.

[Podcast Host 2]

She like circumvents.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's this like, it's like crazy 10 year plan.

[Podcast Host 2]

Do you and. But she'll do it in a way that's just like, hey, do you know that so and so. And I'm like, I already know what you're doing. You're telling me to do something on your behalf. And it's like, why can't you just go straight to the source and say how you feel?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Because they're crazy. They're psychos. They can't if they like, this is

[Jowyng Summers]

where we get it from to the respecter. They respect everything, want to do any communication, but they also don't want to

[Podcast Host 2]

do the fixing themselves. So they make you the fixer.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And it's like my whole life I've been a fixer. And you know, how exhausting. And like, yeah, like Draining. That is for your mental.

[Peter Kim]

It's crazy. My white partner, who was holding our half Mexican, half Korean nephew, came over because me and my mom are speaking Korean.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

And when we're speaking Korean, we're speaking. Speaking in like Han voice.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like fighting Chinese. Like, it sounds like fighting.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. You guys go from 0 to 16, like 2.5.

[Peter Kim]

And he had to come over and he had to be like, one time

[Podcast Host 2]

I told him, you need a white guy in the room. Huh?

[Peter Kim]

He's the referee.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. They are still softener.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. He's the un.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's a Colette.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

He's a Lube.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

He's it in, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That is really. I think that's. But you know, begging, like you talked about, just begging parents is.

[Jowyng Summers]

I beg my mom.

[Podcast Host 2]

The capillaries that it will burst in my face.

[Peter Kim]

My eyes twitching like, I enjoy you.

[Jowyng Summers]

When you beg her, though, she's like, yeah. What you did to me, she enjoyed. Like, when you are begging her, like, mom, please stop. Yes. You know what you did to me. I would have a good life. You ruined my life. You look just like your father.

[Peter Kim]

You could have looked like me.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. You could look at me and have a better. Your husband stayed, but no, no, no. Just like him.

[Peter Kim]

That's why he loves.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes, that's. Yeah. You already boy, may I say, and I'm that lady boy. You look like lady boy, but you are. You don't have long legs. The lady boys are tall and pretty. You're short and you're lady boy.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. You're a lady man.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

My last begging session was with my mom. And it had to do with.

[Peter Kim]

I don't beg anyone but my mom.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. When I was truly. When I was pregnant and about to give birth, I was like, I had like, just a reckoning of like, okay, who's going to show up? This like, my grand.

[Podcast Host 3]

The grandma.

[Podcast Host 2]

She's got a grandma now, right? I'm like, what version of her is going to be present for my son? Is it the version that I grew

[Podcast Host 3]

up with, which was scary, or is it this, like, evolved version?

[Podcast Host 2]

So the last time I cried on my knees, I was like, please get some therapy. Please get some therapy. Please get some therapy. And you know what? She is on Lexapro. And when I tell you that she is an evolved woman, a present grandma, the kindest mother.

[Peter Kim]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, it's almost as if the medication, like, unburdened her of everything and she is just cooler headed than me now.

[Peter Kim]

It's just A medication or also therapy.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think it's a combination of her seeing my son for the first time, being a grandmother, and taking it very seriously. And on top of that, the medication, I think helps her not have the anxiety and OCD and the rumination, like the obsessive thoughts, so where she can just be herself.

[Jowyng Summers]

Also, you are. You are making money. She's just being a grandma. Be like, I don't have to go to work. This is beautiful. Yeah, exactly.

[Peter Kim]

I think that with a baby.

[Podcast Host 2]

Exactly. I think when she was a mom, she was very stressed. She was very young. She was very, like, you know, poor. Like, there's a lot of things going on where it. I think that now she gets to redo it all over again. Clear. Why? In a clear way.

[Peter Kim]

A reset. But I would love that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Lexapro. I'm telling you, my mom.

[Peter Kim]

My mom would never do. My mom would die before doing Lexa Pro.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, she's my mom. I have to literally put a weed gummy for her.

[Peter Kim]

I did that, too. We got me.

[Jowyng Summers]

I drugged her.

[Peter Kim]

My mom can't sleep now.

[Jowyng Summers]

She can sleep now.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's like, yeah, I drug her. She.

[Peter Kim]

I have to get Lexapro and, like, secretly give it to my mom. Like, Bill Gates.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. You didn't hear about this? Bill Gates and Melinda Gates.

[Podcast Host 2]

You know what? The first time I ever heard of this was not. This is such a. A up old strategy. There was a guy, he's no longer a friend of mine, but a. A friend of mine who was married. He had been married with two kids with his wife for a long time. He lived in San Francisco, and then he went to Reno with his brothers and some friends. And he. Another woman got chlamydia, a prosthesis, went home.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Podcast Host 3]

Just a random girl.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think it has whorehouses.

[Podcast Host 2]

They do. Oh, yeah, they do. Went back home and had sex with his wife. And then obviously found out after he had sex with his wife that, oh, my God, I am actually symptomatic and I have chlamydia. And he was a trainer at this time at the gym. And what he did was his wife, who had just given birth to their kid, was a little bit, you know, concerned about her body and putting on weight, and he gave her fake diet pills and said, hey, this just came down the pipe. Everyone's talking about this. You have to take it for a week and you're going to lose so much weight. And it was, in fact, chlamydia medication. Medication. For chlamydia. And I was like. When I heard this, I was like,

[Peter Kim]

women that are getting tricked by their

[Podcast Host 2]

man, I'm like, he went through the trouble of changing the label and everything. And I was like, this is diabolical.

[Jowyng Summers]

Does not cheat.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's.

[Peter Kim]

That's crazy. They want to be a scientist.

[Jowyng Summers]

I love. I want to.

[Peter Kim]

You know what I mean?

[Jowyng Summers]

If that happened to me, I will. I will. He's dying, and nobody knows. I will kill him, and nobody knows how he died.

[Peter Kim]

Have you mapped out how you would kill your husband?

[Jowyng Summers]

I have a jowing curse that my grandma who died. She placed. Whoever crossed me dies in three years. Or getting really, like, brain tumor. It's worse than dying. So I'm not the curse.

[Podcast Host 2]

Your grandma had that curse.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, she had it.

[Peter Kim]

These Cavalieri sisters, they better watch.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, they. They are gonna. It's gonna. I mean, they also want me to die. I'm like, honey, I'm an Asian woman. I'm gonna outlive all of you guys. Well, I'm 120. Your. Your grandson will be cleaning my poo and eating my ass. Like, that's what happened to you. Like, what the are you talking about?

[Peter Kim]

Do not cross J. Summers. She's got a curse.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, my grandma placed it. She's dying, so I can't really fix it. So it just.

[Peter Kim]

It just.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

You want. Put me down.

[Peter Kim]

So just watch out.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, just watch out. Or be a good human.

[Peter Kim]

Easy.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, you can fix it. Be a good person. But if you refuse to. I don't.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can't help you.

[Peter Kim]

And I'm. She's not liable. Is a legal thing.

[Jowyng Summers]

It's not me. It's a Chinese feng shui. You got feng shui.

[Podcast Host 3]

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[Podcast Host 2]

Give me that banana. Banana.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, my gosh.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, it's an extra big banana. These are massive.

[Jowyng Summers]

Huge.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, this is like going to bat day at the Dodger stadium.

[Jowyng Summers]

This is beautiful. I love this.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wait, what is this on the. What does it say? Korean grocery stores are going viral selling one banana per day packaging.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, is this that?

[Podcast Host 2]

Is this that?

[Peter Kim]

No, this is a good. And gather which.

[Jowyng Summers]

Can I eat it? I'm hungry now.

[Peter Kim]

Eat it. Oh, this. I've seen this before because it's a ripeness thing, so that once you get to the green one, it's ripe.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. This is actually brilliant, only because when you buy, like, a bunch or a bundle of bananas, it's always like, either all green. Right. They don't. And you're like, by the time they do get ripe, you better hurry up and eat.

[Peter Kim]

I know. It always gets brown like a giraffe by the time I get to the last one, and I'm like, it's about. And sometimes I let it go so bad that it turns into alcohol. All.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, then you just throw it in.

[Peter Kim]

Banana sugars are starting to ferment. That's the most Korean thing I've ever done.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's like the most Korean thing ever.

[Peter Kim]

The most Korean thing I've ever. Oh, my God. While talking about banana packaging. Koreans do understand packaging, though. We are. We're not afraid to get cute with. We love getting cute for marketing sake.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I feel as though, like, Koreans are ahead of so many things, including Cloning.

[Peter Kim]

Cloning dogs.

[Podcast Host 3]

What the.

[Peter Kim]

Like, the Barbra Streisand thing?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I think that Korea kind of like,

[Peter Kim]

that's so crazy for me, because don't you not get the same dog.

[Podcast Host 2]

You don't get the same dog.

[Peter Kim]

What is the point?

[Podcast Host 2]

I talked about this one time where, like, some lady was like, oh, I'm gonna clone my prized bull. It was on, like, a cow. This American Life. It was a cow, but he was like. It was a prize bull. It was like a beloved bull, but it was very sweet and docile. And when the bull died, this family was just, like, devastated. So they paid all this money to get the bull clone. And Bull 2.0 killed someone. Yeah. It was very aggressive. Completely different. And I don't know if they just got scammed. You know what I mean? Like, here's your clone. And it was just.

[Peter Kim]

God, of course. Yeah. It's not supposed to be here. It got pulled out of a different timeline by.

[Podcast Host 2]

If you saw a clone of yourself just on the street, how would you behave?

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so I fantasize about this for. Since I was, like, four years old. Yeah. Of being on a bus and being with another version of myself. Watching myself on the bus. Have you guys done that? Am I crazy? Do you do that? We all do that, right? The normal thing. We all do on a bus.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm a bit of a jet, maybe,

[Peter Kim]

and not a private jet.

[Podcast Host 2]

You're like, oh, the mta.

[Jowyng Summers]

Why not?

[Peter Kim]

You're like, I'm not a bus.

[Podcast Host 2]

It didn't click in her head.

[Peter Kim]

I grew up. I grew up poor. Sorry.

[Jowyng Summers]

Me too.

[Peter Kim]

But, yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

But I don't want to go back.

[Podcast Host 2]

Don't take me there.

[Peter Kim]

But I have fantasized about, like, being watched by me.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then what's happening when you're watching? Are you acknowledging you're having sex?

[Jowyng Summers]

Do you watch yourself?

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, God.

[Jowyng Summers]

I judge yourself.

[Peter Kim]

Never. I don't even look in the mirror.

[Podcast Host 2]

I try not to imagine myself.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can't even watch myself doing a show. I can't. I have to not look at myself and listen to the audio. Try to.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Review my performance. I can't.

[Peter Kim]

I'm cutting my own half hour right now, and I'm like, every single time.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can't.

[Peter Kim]

I'm like, why so bad?

[Jowyng Summers]

That's why people hate me. I sound like this.

[Peter Kim]

You do sound like that.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. That's why they hate me.

[Peter Kim]

You know, I've only seen you through social media till today, and I was like, I hope she's not sounding exactly like that.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I do. I got recognized on the fly. If you're like, I know exactly that song. I can't mistake it. I'm like, that does not compliments it.

[Peter Kim]

It's a brand.

[Jowyng Summers]

That's what my husband left. Like, stop talking about it. I don't know. Something about my voice. Yeah, we kept extremely piercingly annoying.

[Podcast Host 2]

Would you be kind to yourself to your clone if you saw him on a plane?

[Peter Kim]

A clone.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'll abuse her so hard.

[Peter Kim]

A clone. I would. Yeah, you would just turn her into your slave.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'll abuse her. Yeah. I'll tell her you in.

[Peter Kim]

You're like, I don't need therapy. I just need someone else to have hurt.

[Jowyng Summers]

You need a veneer. You lose weight. Your hair is weak.

[Podcast Host 2]

So you wouldn't like hug her and like get to know her, be friends?

[Peter Kim]

No, I would try to kill him.

[Podcast Host 2]

Really.

[Peter Kim]

There could only be one. It's Highlander rules for me. I love godly for another me to be alive. I just don't think that's.

[Podcast Host 2]

But don't you think that there is someone out there with almost the exact prototype of you? Because I do believe like the same

[Peter Kim]

life experience, the whole thing and more

[Podcast Host 2]

like, you know, I do believe, like there may be 85 prototypes of human beings and you fall under one of them. And some of those prototypes have millions of people. Some have like four or five. Like Bobby. I don't. I think that there are only maybe three other Bobby Lee's in the world.

[Jowyng Summers]

There's one here, the other one's right there. We're all here. You can't count it. We're surrounding ourselves with you.

[Podcast Host 2]

But do you know what I mean? Where it's like, I feel like I fall under a pretty average prototype of like. Like, I think there are many girls like me, not with the same lived experiences, but who kind of move about, slide around like the same way.

[Peter Kim]

The same way?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. And almost with the same face, the wide shoulders. Like, I've seen a version of me out there in the world before. And I'm like, I see some resemblance.

[Peter Kim]

I will say I don't see a lot of me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Really.

[Peter Kim]

I do not. I tried to look for me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Do you see a lot of you?

[Jowyng Summers]

No, I don't see a lot. I really do want a cologne of me though, so I can abuse her. Because my daughter had a lot love her. I had to give her unconditional love.

[Peter Kim]

Does she look like you?

[Jowyng Summers]

She's. She look at me. She's prettier. She look like me. We are like she's like little mini of me.

[Peter Kim]

Is there any part of you that like is jealous of her?

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm jealous that she's, she's just, she's be with no trauma. Like she just got all the love.

[Peter Kim]

You sound mad thing loves.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm, I'm angry. She, she can have her. She can find her own white man,

[Podcast Host 2]

but she gets to have a white dad.

[Jowyng Summers]

Her dad loves her. I think she's cute. Everything she does is cute.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's not her white grandpa loves. Somebody abused her. And she's also popular in school. Everyone wants to be her friend.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Jowyng Summers]

So she's an Asian kid in Texas right now.

[Peter Kim]

I want to be. I want her life.

[Jowyng Summers]

I, I, that's why like I want another jowing. I can just like a you in.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can make her great from abusing her. That's why I can. She can be great from getting love.

[Peter Kim]

You want unconditional hate.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I just want her to know she ain't. Yeah. I want to see she can be like a weapon to mine. She can just like I can send her to do things for me. She'll be like a display.

[Peter Kim]

Wait. I want us to pitch a show. I know this as a show. Show.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Where you find that Zhao Yang. They're like, finally someone I could be mean to.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. I can just make her so great.

[Peter Kim]

And then everyone else in your life, you have to be really lovable.

[Jowyng Summers]

And I'm pretty sure she could be better than my daughter because she's with discipline.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. My daughter is cute though.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

She looks just like me. She's five.

[Peter Kim]

Five with no trauma.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, no trauma. She's so confident. First time she met my father in law, she's like, don't you think I'm so adorable?

[Podcast Host 2]

I love that.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. He can't believe it. It's so cute.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's also a photographic memory. She memories everything. She's so smart.

[Peter Kim]

Wow.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's like. It's just People just like me so much. I'm just so popular. I didn't try. It just happens.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, what's her name?

[Jowyng Summers]

Margot. Magnolia. Like the flower.

[Peter Kim]

Magnolia.

[Jowyng Summers]

That's her name. She's a little cutie.

[Peter Kim]

That's the same summers.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, she's cute.

[Jowyng Summers]

She loves her dad. My dad has blue eyes. I have chocolate eyes like black diamonds. She thinks she's so cute. She's like, I'm just so pretty. And she's sty.

[Peter Kim]

Do you tell her or No, I don't.

[Jowyng Summers]

I try to do this. She goes, mommy, you are like me, but you are older.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm fresh.

[Peter Kim]

She speaks the truth.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. I'm fresh, and I'm just so pretty.

[Peter Kim]

Wow.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You try to stop her for being confident, but you can't stop.

[Jowyng Summers]

I can't stop her. Then she just looks like she's like, oh, it's okay, Mommy. People get old.

[Podcast Host 2]

But you know what? This is a testament to your parenting. You gave her.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

So much love that she was like, her internal dialogue is only that.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like her internal dialogue is the way you spoke to her, which is like, I love myself. I'm amazing. Yeah, that's. That's sweet.

[Peter Kim]

Do you think that's true what they say about your.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

Inner child or your, like, judge. What do they call it? The judgmental voice? Is your mom's voice?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Your parents voice 103 or 5.

[Peter Kim]

Something like that.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's not even like, my internal dialogue is how my aunties and my mom spoke about other people because I was privy to, like, the talking that they would do where it was like, look at her legs are too short. Or look at this and look at that, and you internalize. I internalized that for myself. Then it was like hypercritical circle of my body. So I do believe that because even when I. I subconsciously absorbed that inner dialogue without even knowing it, it wasn't until I was in therapy, I'm like, why do I talk about myself like this? I'm like, this is seriously specific to how they spoke about other people.

[Jowyng Summers]

So I'm like, oh, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

100.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hate that. Do you not believe that?

[Peter Kim]

No, I do believe that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

That's why I beg my mom, because I'm like. Like, oh, my God. It's like my inner voice and an outer voice.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Clashing. And I'm about to end it all.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I'm about to throw up just thinking about it.

[Jowyng Summers]

It just is a war. Every day.

[Podcast Host 2]

Every day, Every day.

[Podcast Host 3]

Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like.

[Peter Kim]

And I don't have that much time with my mom. Does she live here or China?

[Jowyng Summers]

I moved her from China to here, so she live with us. She's helping visit kids.

[Peter Kim]

How is she with you?

[Jowyng Summers]

We just bought a house in Austin, so we moved in December 30th, so it's new. She still hate me.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Jowyng Summers]

But she's like. She just like. She's like, you should live long. You're my money tree. Oh, that's like, the best way Asian mom.

[Peter Kim]

That's a little better.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. That's actually quite kind. That's like, sweet for. For that, you know, older Asian standard.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's like. Also, she's like, you have to control your temper because you're gonna get older and your husband is gonna leave you. He's useful. He can make food, and he loves the kids. This is very good. Have a kind of man is very

[Peter Kim]

important, so you better.

[Jowyng Summers]

When she sees someone's useful, she's in love with them. I said, you love him. Now you think he's useful. She goes, unfortunately, he's useful.

[Peter Kim]

What can I do?

[Jowyng Summers]

You are. You are not.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I love those backhanded compliments because they really come from, like, she probably really believes that, like, he's a good guy, because that right there is, like, the highest form. Unfortunately, he's useful. I guess we'll keep him. Means, like, she must really like him.

[Jowyng Summers]

I know. Is so crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I. I'm now thinking that maybe I've been talking about my mom. When I hear you guys talk about your parents, I'm like, damn, my mom's actually okay here.

[Peter Kim]

I was just my eyes twitching going on. Look at it. I. She. It's actively happening. We're having dinner tomorrow. Oh, me, her, my brother, his baby mama, her parents, my hubby. Like, we're all doing it together.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, you. And you guys are. You're basically forced to act as, like, this bridge. Right. And this is, like, tricky because you are a part of. You understand both sides, like, intimately. I'm sure.

[Peter Kim]

Even though I'm on my brother's side.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know that you are, but it's like, you understand like, how a. Older Asians, like, demand, like, that respect and want to be seen as that elder. It's so, like, ingrained.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. And we're, like, Americanized, so, like, we don't. We communicate like this.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You know, we talk to each other, and we don't, like, have this type of like. Like, you know, my brother doesn't call me H. Yeah. He calls me Peter.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You know, do I want to slap him? Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

But also, it's like, could you say to your mom, like, hey, you did, like, we acclimated, and you. You raised us in the US where,

[Peter Kim]

like, they want the cake and eat it too, you know?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

They're like, oh, we want you to be Americanized so that you can succeed, but we want you to be Korean in value.

[Jowyng Summers]

I love that. This is crazy because at one of my show, the friend wrote this gay boy, he's Malaysian. He said that his mom refused to acknowledge his husband is his husband, and she Want him to be a PhD, which he is. Also have a beautiful wife. And she said my mom wanted the horse to be a good horse. Want the. The horse run fast. Also don't want the horse to eat any grass. She want all of don't eat. But you got perform and do well. And I don't want to feed you. You should not be eating.

[Peter Kim]

No crying.

[Jowyng Summers]

Don't cry. It's like you. You just like you want the impossible.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

To be Korean and American at the same time. Like, it's not successful.

[Peter Kim]

Successful. Not gay.

[Jowyng Summers]

Not gay. And also, like, don't have any trauma

[Peter Kim]

and don't complain and don't talk to me about my stuff.

[Jowyng Summers]

No.

[Peter Kim]

It's crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

There are some things of like the older generation. Even if like you're acclimated to America. There are some things that are Asian values that are non negotiables for me. And I don't care what color you are.

[Peter Kim]

Let's name them for me.

[Jowyng Summers]

Number one.

[Podcast Host 2]

Number one and will always be number one. If you don't take your shoes off at the door.

[Peter Kim]

I was just about to say that's number one.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't care what culture you're from. If you're tracking germs into my. Into my space, you're a heathen.

[Peter Kim]

No.

[Jowyng Summers]

Also, don't wear your airport jeans inside the blanket.

[Peter Kim]

No outside clothes. Immediately change.

[Jowyng Summers]

My husband's so ocd. He would walk around our house, he will vacuum it and he wear the. I'm like, are you kidding me?

[Podcast Host 2]

No. There's some.

[Jowyng Summers]

Jeffrey Epstein's poop is right here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Right?

[Peter Kim]

Same terminal. Come on.

[Jowyng Summers]

You don't understand. I can't. They don't get it. I go, but why?

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't understand.

[Peter Kim]

And it's the whole, like stuff inside

[Podcast Host 2]

stuff, you know, it's not even like aerated like this Denim holds in farts. Denim holds in things. Why are you in my bed rolling

[Jowyng Summers]

around like, take it off.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, take it off. Please, dear God, take a shower.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's disgusting.

[Jowyng Summers]

What else?

[Podcast Host 2]

What else is there?

[Peter Kim]

That's number one. I'm glad that we're all in green.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. I would say nursing home for parents is kind of not okay. Like, wait, I have a.

[Peter Kim]

You have to put. Bring your parents in.

[Jowyng Summers]

Bring them in and sleep away and afford in house nurse or something. Figure out the brother sister has to come out of his expenses.

[Peter Kim]

I agree with that. I think that's missing in America.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay. So I actually normally before I had a baby, I would absolutely agree with this. I'm like, no, You. I, I multi generational home. Grandma was in with us in the house. My Lola was in us in the house with us. When I had a baby, though, I am so afraid of. Because I know how, like, dementia works. Like, I know how, like, hard it is to live with someone who's completely just on a different planet.

[Podcast Host 3]

Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

And it is so taxing that if my son, because I'm. I had a baby at 40, decided that so if, if my brain starts to go, I am going to give full freedom to my son to be like, I want you to live your life without the burden of me, like, full permission to not bring me into his home.

[Peter Kim]

That's different, though.

[Podcast Host 2]

But I mean, it's inevitable that you do, you do have to hit. You do hit some level of senility when you're older, right?

[Peter Kim]

So it's like, yeah, but as long as you're not there, I think you should figure it out. And with your parent, like, I think that's such a sad thing that happens in America. Right?

[Podcast Host 2]

I, I do, I do think that, like, I could never think of ever sending my mom.

[Peter Kim]

My mom is coming home. My own family now.

[Jowyng Summers]

But it's, like, still healthy. Like, they're just.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, yeah. That's weird.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, that's a third one. Bring our, Bring your parents back home with you. If unless it, you know, things are really hard, just stick through it.

[Peter Kim]

Like, they're going to die soon. Like, I know.

[Jowyng Summers]

I was also. Yeah, yeah, that's. It's like, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

This idea, like, like, I remember thinking, like, it was a very full circle moment for me when I was changing my dad's diaper and I'm like, oh, he changed mine once upon a time. Like, what is. This is no big deal. It's just, you know, you come around and now it's like full arc, right?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Would you give your mom a sponge bath?

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I, I will slave away I I, I, I I threw her feet I I cut her nails and why?

[Peter Kim]

Because you're like, later. She can't complain about it.

[Jowyng Summers]

No, it's for the comma. Because if the nicer your two parents, the more money you make. So I got on my knees I do I I, I, I, I like I Same visit. You wipe her well, she's. She's very fast and healthy right now. She's only 50.

[Peter Kim]

No, I'm saying, would you.

[Jowyng Summers]

I will.

[Podcast Host 2]

Your mom's so young.

[Jowyng Summers]

She's so young. 53, I think.

[Podcast Host 2]

53.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Like, you have to commit, like, when

[Peter Kim]

you are 53, that's almost as old as I am.

[Jowyng Summers]

You look young. Yeah. So she's still very good. She's gonna abuse me for a very long time. Oh. So I. I would. I was living for a while. I was sleep for her because it's good for the feng shui. I can make more money if I'm nice to her.

[Peter Kim]

There you go.

[Jowyng Summers]

Not because I want you, but it's just like, I know how it works.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

You want such a businesswoman.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I just. Like I said, if you give a blow job, if you're gonna give it, you give it all the way.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

When you abuse him or like, when he leave you, he knows that you are the best because you don't be like, don't do it. Don't. Don't suck it. Or just like. Just, like, put on me. Oh, no, just like it.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't agree.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I do it with disdain. I want him to know that I'm not here for, like, g. Oh, really? No, I don't. My blow jobs are so mid.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, no.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because I think I put in so much.

[Peter Kim]

I will make sure he will never forget what a mouth feels like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh. With me, it's kind of like every

[Peter Kim]

blowjob I give, it's like, it's going to be your lap.

[Jowyng Summers]

Really?

[Peter Kim]

You better believe it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Not me.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's more like they come out this

[Peter Kim]

small, so I have to try extra to get it up.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, we, We. We. We have to use this to. To balance all toxic energy. Wow.

[Podcast Host 2]

You guys, really. I think it's my. I'm half. Only half Asian.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's probably where the lack of effort comes. And honestly, like, if you were to ask, like, a guy today, he'd be like, yeah, take it or leave it.

[Peter Kim]

White girls are not into, like, blow jobs.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, I think it. I think they are. It's just more of like, you guys are, like, all about completion and absolutes.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I want him to be like, my life is worth living after. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Or I don't do it. Or like, I'm. I'm gonna. I'm. I'm working on a clip. I'm writing right now. Or if I'm doing, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna slave away. I'm gonna grab my knees and put on music. Wear some slot outfit. I don't know.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna make sure he forgets to do the dishes.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's gonna be like, oh, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

It's because it is very, like, all or nothing in that way.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. It's just. Yeah. We're too Asian. We're too broken.

[Peter Kim]

We're too broken Asian.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm therapist. I live in the gray. I live in like mid blowjob world.

[Peter Kim]

Oh no.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Just like. Was that okay? Yeah. Okay, good. That's good enough for me. Sure.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

All right.

[Jowyng Summers]

Well, she's in the heating era.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. That sounds like you have more self esteem.

[Jowyng Summers]

You heal the dick, we break heels.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm healed. I don't need to give good mojobs anymore.

[Peter Kim]

I feel like I have like a vindictive way of giving a blowjob where after you have this blow job, you're always going to think about this blow job.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Jowyng Summers]

And then you forgive what I said.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. What I did and how much I spent.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I. I never want to be someone's like best like sex they ever had.

[Peter Kim]

There's something about blowing a guy's mind through his come.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

That is. Feels like powerful.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. You just have to be very into it. That's the key.

[Peter Kim]

Well, we put on a show.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. It's a show. You have to make sure he knows that his dick is the best dick in the world.

[Peter Kim]

In the world. You can never get this anywhere.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't have therapy, but I know

[Peter Kim]

how to suck a day. Me too.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. I just know you have.

[Peter Kim]

That's how I've been surviving all this time. Almost 53.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes. When he know he's special, he feels special. He treat you special.

[Peter Kim]

Exactly.

[Jowyng Summers]

When you abuse him. He didn't leave.

[Peter Kim]

No. If you abuse that thing, he'll abuse you.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is the memory of the dick sucking.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Just place a tape displays.

[Peter Kim]

I think straight men specifically or just men in general. I feel like have a simpler like on off of like I'm turned on. I'm into this. I can't think of anything but this and then off.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Whereas like I know it sounds like for women it's more like. And I'm guilty of that too. Like I'm very hot, cold with sex. I don't have a lot of like middle ground. Like.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. That's why I also cannot be a lesbian. I'll be buying everything.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh really?

[Jowyng Summers]

Buying everything? Yeah. I will have to.

[Peter Kim]

If you are a lesbian, would you be the one to get. Want to get them off?

[Jowyng Summers]

No.

[Peter Kim]

Similarly.

[Jowyng Summers]

No. I want them to get me off.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm paying. But it's so, so sexist. Now my woman, I'm still paying, but I.

[Peter Kim]

But someone has to be.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's also paying with. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

With his dick.

[Jowyng Summers]

His Dick. But he also brought money to the house too.

[Peter Kim]

That's important.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes, he's. He's a provider too. He just. He just A calm. I forgot he provided flights.

[Peter Kim]

He's from Iowa.

[Jowyng Summers]

No, he's from Cleveland.

[Peter Kim]

Cleveland, Ohio.

[Jowyng Summers]

But he's a Tesla guy. So he has Tesla money. Like tech guy, Tesla. Like he has funds stock.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, great.

[Jowyng Summers]

So he has Tesla money. But because he's so calm, like when I say county, he just like, I'm sorry you feel this way. I forgot he. He bring money. Oh, because you know Asian men, like, shut up.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Who's paying for the house?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

But like a white guy's like, I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry. I don't know what to do. Like, I. I just. You need to. We will heal you. And I'm like, you did something. You've been cheating on me. Something's up.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't.

[Peter Kim]

I don't trust you, so.

[Jowyng Summers]

Nice. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

Also, I think like, if you are in love with me, you up. Something's wrong with you and you are not as good as you think you are good. You kill someone. If you are good, you would do better than me.

[Peter Kim]

I'm always doing a background check on my.

[Jowyng Summers]

Exactly. I'm like, if you are with me because I have low self esteem, something's obviously like, something's wrong with you. Something's wired off. So you deserve this life. I feel less guilty from.

[Peter Kim]

But did you meet him after you started making money or before?

[Jowyng Summers]

After. So you don't still have low self esteem.

[Peter Kim]

But he can't. Money didn't fix it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Did not fix my self esteem.

[Peter Kim]

Oh my God. What am I doing?

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't know what's wrong with us.

[Podcast Host 2]

We're never. It was like the unfixables.

[Jowyng Summers]

He was very hot and I just thought, he's a catch. Then slowly I just erase his heart. I'm like, he's just good looking. Whatever. He's with me. He can't do it.

[Peter Kim]

Can't be.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, he's not that special.

[Peter Kim]

He's tainted.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, he's. Something's wrong with him. Right?

[Peter Kim]

Broken too.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, he's broken.

[Podcast Host 2]

I've talked about this with Esther. When you. When your partner talks about their exes, do you want them to talk?

[Jowyng Summers]

It's so hard for me.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a red flag. If a guy obviously that I'm dating is constantly talking about their exes. I'm like, okay, if all your exes are crazy, you're actually.

[Peter Kim]

I don't want you to talk about them at all.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think he's a virgin. His mom delivered from her to my. That's it. You came from her. Now you're in my. That's it. I don't want to know. You are very.

[Peter Kim]

I don't want to know.

[Podcast Host 2]

So you don't want to know anything.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't want nobody. Thank God he's sweet guy. He doesn't talk about it. His exes, but I just want to make sure whenever he's like, she was very pretty. I'll be like, I want to see her face. I need to see her face. Show me. I'm like, she doesn't have a chain. I just. I. I wanted to because I hate myself. I'm like, she. She's. She's at least as ugly as me. You don't deserve someone who's hot. You know? Like, I. I don't. I won't allow you. But then I was. Look at the girls because I'm so critical with myself. I'll be like, yeah, she's running Canyon 6. You know, it's fine. Yeah, okay. Kansas 8.

[Peter Kim]

Exactly.

[Jowyng Summers]

Like, yeah, we're all ugly. Yes. You. So he just. He's sweet.

[Podcast Host 2]

Ugly is so funny.

[Jowyng Summers]

We're all ugly. You.

[Peter Kim]

She has a type.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I just. I. He. He apparently just don't think about the ex.

[Peter Kim]

I'm a little different because my guy, he dated also women.

[Jowyng Summers]

Oh, that's right.

[Podcast Host 2]

I do remember this.

[Jowyng Summers]

That's interesting.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. So, like.

[Jowyng Summers]

Or are you gonna be offended?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, they are hot.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Like, I better be.

[Podcast Host 2]

Would you be upset if all of your. If your partners. All of his exes were Asian?

[Jowyng Summers]

I will be very upset. I'm the first Asian too. Yeah. I'm his first Asian.

[Peter Kim]

I had to be.

[Jowyng Summers]

He had all non Asian girlfriends.

[Podcast Host 2]

Would that drive you? Would that have been a deal breaker for you?

[Peter Kim]

Deal breaker, really? 100.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't think he's with me because I look chinky. Yeah, you would think that he was

[Peter Kim]

like, oh, he has a fetish.

[Jowyng Summers]

Because when you have fetish, you can look like a feet. They think you're hot. Yeah, exactly. Insulting.

[Peter Kim]

It could just be holes and knees.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes, exactly.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm serious. Like, so, yeah, the accent, they. I just think fetish guys are, like, crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, now, what about if either of your exes were to say this, you know, so and so h. He or she was really funny. One of the funniest people I've ever met.

[Jowyng Summers]

I think that would be the.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yes.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You would have to kill. I don't want to hear someone had a good personality.

[Jowyng Summers]

I don't want to have a good personality.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, they gave a good speech. What?

[Jowyng Summers]

Like I gave a speech at that one wedding.

[Peter Kim]

No.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, so funny.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, she had a really good show. What? What do you mean show? If he dated another comedian, that's a redder flag than Asian.

[Jowyng Summers]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Peter Kim]

To me, that's. I'm already getting angry.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know. I was like, wait a minute. Take a sip of water. Take a sip of water.

[Jowyng Summers]

No. Also, like, I don't like when he says someone else is not funny, but funny like when someone's not funny, he's like, oh, so blah, blah. Is so funny. When, like, when his taste he didn't have tasting comedy. I'm like, you don't deserve a blow job.

[Peter Kim]

No.

[Jowyng Summers]

You're weak.

[Peter Kim]

No, you can't.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah, I want you.

[Peter Kim]

I find that so unattractive.

[Jowyng Summers]

Good tasting music and music and comedy, Art music is important.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I have a different take on this. I thought for a really long time that I wanted someone to match my sensibilities in, like, pop culture, music, all of these things. But, like, I think that I was too busy trying to look, look for this. That I. I would prioritize that over the feeling of, like, safety and calm and kind. No, that's so I would overshadow, like, my own, like, needs. And so, like, when I met my partner, he really is just like, salt of the earth. No, he doesn't know all my pop culture references. In fact, like, he's kind of like a dad. We're the same age, but he is so much, like, older than me references,

[Peter Kim]

it's more tail taste like, but even taste. If you and he are presented the same piece of art, music slash food or whatever, that your taste is aligned.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

That you're not going. I love it. I hate it. You know, it's like, that doesn't work.

[Jowyng Summers]

I'm Amy Winehouse. He's Justin Bieber. I can't. I, I. You can't. I just can't.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, you're right. So, like, one of my favorite movies ever is the Christopher Guest Best in Show.

[Peter Kim]

Love it.

[Podcast Host 2]

If he doesn't laugh, laugh from beginning to end of that movie. I think it would bother me. Thankfully, of course thankfully, we do have, like, you know, funny is funny. But, like, there are some things I feel like he's so much more. He lives in the real world, I think I've been living in Peter Pan land for so long that, like, I'm so glad that the person I'm with is living, like, outside of this.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, that like grass.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. He's touching grass every day. You know, he's like, tethered to real life. So, like. Like, I don't mind that he's a little bit of an old dad.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. Oh, that is good. Old dad.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I love an old dad.

[Jowyng Summers]

My mind is like just a dad. He loves playing Pokemon with the kids, make food for them, taking them to play, and just do all things.

[Peter Kim]

He's a good stepdad.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's amazing stepdad.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God.

[Jowyng Summers]

Their dad don't exist because he's not in the picture. So they. He's the only dad they know. He teach my son how to be a real man, how to build Lego. He give Margot confidence and be there for her in the morning. They have their morning squeeze when we come home from the tour. My daughter saw me. She's like, daddy. He's like, are you jealous? I said, I'm not jealous. I never had a dad. Now she has a dad. I. I don't own her. I'm happy. I'm gonna go work.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. You chose well.

[Peter Kim]

How did you find him?

[Jowyng Summers]

I called him in Austin. You had to import them.

[Peter Kim]

What do you mean you called him in Austin?

[Jowyng Summers]

It's. I trapped him. I was thinking about. It's been two years. I don't got dick. And I need to find a father for my kids. Kids, okay? So I need to find a man, a good man.

[Peter Kim]

So you did research.

[Jowyng Summers]

I. I saw him. I think he was cute. Because in Chinese culture, you have to marry a pretty man. Because good looking enough for your heart, so you can live longer.

[Peter Kim]

Okay?

[Jowyng Summers]

Feng shui is like a beauty. You look at beauty, you live longer.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. You want to live?

[Jowyng Summers]

You. Yeah, I want him to look good.

[Peter Kim]

Okay?

[Jowyng Summers]

Because now I can afford. I can. I can afford to be single. I don't care. I want him to be. So he just. We met and I just want to. Him. I want. And then I did him. I'm like, okay, I ruined it. He'll never see me again. And then we went. I went back there in October, we started dating. And I said, I don't do long distance. I want to see if you can put up with me, if you can suffer me. I don't want to waste two years. Like, I seen you three times using I'm something good.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

And you spend time with me. You'll freak out.

[Podcast Host 2]

You. You wanted him to see you unmasked completely.

[Jowyng Summers]

So I invited him to Tour with me in Canada. So we did the five cities.

[Peter Kim]

That's how you really.

[Jowyng Summers]

He saw that I'm a real con in his state. I'm like. Like, it's your decision now.

[Peter Kim]

Something's wrong with you.

[Jowyng Summers]

Something's wrong with you. You choose to suffer. Don't complain later.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

So then in December, he come to my house. I'm like, I don't want to talk about this, but I'm under house arrest. It's my second doi, so there's a ankle alert. Just. You're gonna take me to prison. But, you know, I won't really go there, but I'm gonna check in and do forms and come out. You are going to do that? It's like two weeks of dating, like, sure. And he did that. He met my kids, and then we just. We probably spend 10 days apart again. Two years. Years.

[Peter Kim]

Wow.

[Jowyng Summers]

And he's still here, so I'm like, you are still here.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. So far, so good.

[Jowyng Summers]

So far, so good.

[Peter Kim]

That's all we can ask for.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think that's a perfect way to do it. It's like, I love that you said, you know, I want him. I don't want him to think I'm something great.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

He sees me every once in a while. So he sees me. And, like, you know, it's. It's just colored glasses need to come off almost immediately because I need to know that you accept this.

[Jowyng Summers]

So crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the safety. That's where it's like, you can handle, you know, me at my worst.

[Peter Kim]

You know, that's exactly it.

[Jowyng Summers]

Also, he pos to me at a Chinaman's head in Hawaii.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, I love China. Oh, that's so perfect.

[Jowyng Summers]

Chinaman's head. To me, it's an island. That is.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's an island.

[Jowyng Summers]

Look like a Chinaman's hat.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, looks like a Chinaman's hat.

[Jowyng Summers]

They call it Chinaman's hat. I mean, it's kind of racist.

[Peter Kim]

Do there.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah. He's like. Or Capo harbor. Which one? I'm like, let's do gentleman's hat.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's good. Chinaman's hat.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. I'm proud to be Chinese.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

He's so cute.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's where he proposed to you. That's so sweet.

[Peter Kim]

Chinaman's hat.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jowyng Summers]

It looked like the. The bamboo hat thing.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, like a rice patty hat.

[Jowyng Summers]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

For me, this. This says a lot about me. It really gives me more like a wizard's hat. Like a gray wizard's hat.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. You guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you, Zhao Ying.

[Podcast Host 3]

Where can we find you?

[Jowyng Summers]

Jowing summers everywhere. Jelliancomedy.com is where my Tori is.

[Podcast Host 2]

And oh, yeah, Peter, where can we find you? I feel like you're here every week.

[Peter Kim]

I'm Peter Kim. Come find me on YouTube. I'm gonna be releasing my half hour. I'm editing myself. I feel shitty.

[Podcast Host 2]

Please watch it and we'll see you guys next week.

[Peter Kim]

Sa.