LESLIE LIAO & KAT BIRD All Out In Vegas

Summary

Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: LESLIE LIAO & KAT BIRD All Out In Vegas
Date: September 23, 2025
Guests: Leslie Liao, Kat Bird

Episode Overview

This episode is a raucous, candid, and hilarious hangout with comedians Leslie Liao and Kat Bird. The crew dives into their wildest Vegas memories, body image journeys, relationships (including open relationships), petty friend sabotage, and plays a delightfully chaotic fall-themed spelling bee. The conversation is packed with playful shade, self-deprecating comedy, and genuine takes on modern womanhood, friendship, and growing up—delivered in their quintessential unfiltered “hot girl trash” tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vegas, Baby! – Wild YA Memories and Growing Up

Timestamps: 03:06, 27:47, 32:20

• Leslie & the group reminisce on their riotous “Ratchet Era” Vegas days: comped rooms at Circus Circus, promoter gigs, clubbing, pool parties, and hooking up.
• The difference between doing Vegas in your 20s (living on free vodka and hope) vs. 30s (“adult-style”—cabanas, sushi, paying for privacy).
• Esther shares her pride about now being able to “pay to have people off my property” (29:00), contrasting her new Republican-in-Vegas energy with youthful scrapping.
• Notable Quote:

  “We’d go to a pool party with no table, no ticket. We just be hot girls and just be. Be spotted, be ushered into a table. ... In our 30s, we got our own cabana, front row cabana for the DJ, ordered sushi, caviar. There were like, 22-year-olds trying to even stand near our cabana.”
  — Esther Povitsky (28:25)

2. The Realities of Body Changes, Implants & Areola Discourse

Timestamps: 19:24, 21:05, 21:53

• Khalyla shares her journey from double-D breast implants to removal, pregnancy boobs, and dealing with changing areolas post-breastfeeding.
• The group candidly weighs the pros and cons of “mom” surgeries and pressures, landing firmly on self-acceptance and doing things only for yourself.
• Notable Quote:

  “I have to really ask myself, like, who am I doing it for? What am I doing it for? Because...my partner’s not leaving me. ... If I start to look in the mirror and it’s really bringing me down, maybe I’ll consider it. But only for me.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (21:22)

3. Friend Competitiveness, Sabotage & Petty Beauty Advice

Timestamps: 16:09, 16:56, 17:05

• A debate on whether female friends who advise you to “cut your hair short” are secretly sabotaging you—a “study” Khalyla jokes about, calling out fake science.
• The dangers of listening to mean girl beauty conspiracies: from high school lash scams to competitive moms.
• The conclusion: Don’t listen to unsolicited makeover tips from frenemies.
• Notable Moment:

  “I read a study, but my... Mom always wanted to have my hair cut short.”
  — Leslie Liao (16:43)
  "She told my friend if you cut your lashes, they’ll grow double. She should be in jail."
  — Esther Povitsky (17:27)

4. Dating Preferences, Spotters, and the "Performative Male"

Timestamps: 25:01, 26:36

• The panel swaps tales of club “spotters” (guys picking women out of crowds), what they’d want in a spotter (“401K success!”), and quirks about teeth.
• Khalyla rants about "performative male feminists"—guys who posture as allies for optics or to get girls, but are secretly jerks.
• Notable Quote:

  “The performative male…He’s a feminist, but it’s for show. Deep down, he will verbally abuse you.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (26:54)

5. The Open Relationship Question

Timestamps: 60:31, 61:04, 61:37

• Listener asks for advice: Husband wants to open their relationship; he’s never slept with anyone else.
• Panel shares honest, vulnerable thoughts:
  • Leslie advocates openness ("If you love something, let it go"), but only if you actually want it.
  • Khalyla warns: Don’t pretend to be ok—open relationships don’t work if both people aren’t 100%. Jealousy and insecurity don’t just go away with therapy.
  • Esther dramatically: “It’s already done. He voiced it’s open. If she doesn’t want it...it’s done.”
  • All agree: Take it to a couples’ counselor.
• Notable Quotes:

  “If you don’t want it, you cannot pretend that you’re playing.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (61:37)
  "It's already done. He voiced—it's open. ... You can't make that person want to stay in that relationship if they want something else."
  — Esther Povitsky (61:51) "I personally can't do it—my brain can't handle it. I give my all to one person, I can't multitask emotionally."
  — Esther Povitsky (65:12)

6. Viral Myths, Influencers, and Spreading Misinformation

Timestamps: 07:47, 08:03

• The group jokes about Lululemon being “named to be hard for Asians to pronounce” and the (fake) news that “Lululemon leggings cause vagina cancer.”
• They collectively roast themselves for falling for IG memes and AI-generated misinformation.
• Notable Moment:

  “I’m spreading misinformation. I want us to really go for it: Lulu causes cancer.”
  — Esther Povitsky (08:20)

7. Fall-Themed Spelling Bee & Cozy Vibes

Timestamps: 48:29–58:10

• A spelling bee with words like “butternut,” “pumpkin,” “autumn,” “cornucopia,” “chrysanthemum,” “macchiato.”
• Lots of heckling, support, and accidental cheating (calling out hints and pronunciation tips!).
• Hilarious self-awareness about how “reading the word” is way easier than spelling out loud (“reader’s ego”).
• Notable Quote:

  “We should do a book club of, like, YouTube summaries of books.”
  — Esther Povitsky (53:33)

8. The Power of the 'Ick' and Bad Dates

Timestamps: 67:48, 68:13

• The group delves into the “ick”—the sudden, visceral loss of attraction—on dates: from a guy petting the inside of their hand with “weird fingers,” to spotting awkward hips or hand movements.
• Celebrating the “ick” as a biological gift (just like the smell added to gasoline, per Esther’s analogy) that gets women out of bad situations.
• Notable Quotes:

  “The ick is a gift from God to women because…the relief I feel, it’s our instinct, we’re protecting...”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (69:09)
  “It’s like when you’re playing a board game and you get that magic card that lets you get out of jail—that’s like an ick.”
  — Kyla (71:01)

9. Hands, Labias, and Running Mechanics

Timestamps: 71:10–76:31

• Tangent about hand preferences, running form, and anatomical differences—gleefully devolving into speculation about balls and labia during exercise.
• Notable Moment:

  “I wish our labias did that. Wouldn’t that be fun, if they just like—”
  — Leslie Liao (76:06)

10. Confrontation Styles, Radical Honesty, and People Pleasing

Timestamps: 78:55–80:48

• Reflection on confrontation styles: being a people pleaser, timing, and how so-called “radically honest” types are often just rude (and probably lying).
• Notable Quotes:

  “As soon as someone is like, ‘I’m a truth teller’, it’s like…but you’re lying.”
  — Brett (78:43)
  “We all have that one in our life who thinks they’re so high and mighty…No, you’re just a cruel b****. I didn’t ask.”
  — Khalyla (79:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 28:25 | Esther Povitsky | “In our 30s, we got our own cabana, front row cabana for the DJ... caviar... 22-year-olds trying to even stand near our cabana.” | | 19:55 | Khalyla | “My areolas—dinner plates. Dinner plates.” | | 21:22 | Khalyla | “Who am I doing it for? Because... going under anesthesia, going under some… I hated it.” | | 26:54 | Khalyla | "The performative male—He’s a feminist, but it’s for show... deep down, he will verbally abuse you."| | 61:37 | Khalyla | “If you don’t want it, you need to just not pretend that you want it. You cannot pretend that you're playing.” | | 69:09 | Khalyla | “The ick is a gift from God to women because the relief I feel… it’s our instinct, we're protecting.”| | 71:01 | Kyla | “It's like when you're playing a board game and you get that magic card that lets you get out of jail—that's like an ick.” | | 78:43 | Brett | “As soon as someone is like, ‘I’m a truth teller,’ it’s like… but you’re lying.” |

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Fun & Format

• Tone: Irreverent, sarcastic, confessional.
• Group Dynamic: Encouraging, self-roasting, free-associative banter.
• Games: Fall-themed spelling bee with plenty of comedic derailment and “reader’s ego” jokes.
• Advice: Candid and non-judgmental, but always with a comedic, sometimes fatalistic edge.

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Where to Find the Guests

• Leslie Liao:
  Touring, Instagram: @resreriel, New podcast: Side Boob Pod
• Kat Bird:
  Standup dates available online, @catbirdcomedy

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Summary

If you crave a podcast that feels like eavesdropping on your funniest, realest friends—who aren’t afraid to call each other (and themselves) out, dissect excruciating details of womanhood, and clown on their younger selves—this is peak Trash Tuesday. Vegas stories, body talk, open relationship realness, the “ick,” cult beauty rumors, and fall spelling bee shenanigans—this episode packs the absurd and the relatable in equal measure. Hot takes, big laughs, and even bigger sides of honesty and support.

Transcript

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[Leslie Liao]

You know, when I was doing the Ratchet era, we didn't pay for anything. We got a promo. We got a promoter room at a like the. Oh, even your room circus or what is it called? Circus Circus.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's not the flex.

[Brett]

Circus Circuses.

[Leslie Liao]

It was so much fun. Anyway, we got really drunk.

[Brett]

Circus.

[Kyla]

I see what you're saying when people at your shows have no teeth.

[Esther Povitsky]

What promoters are giving girls free Circus. Circus. Also, even if you were to pay for a circus, I'm sure it's like $80 a night. I'm sure you guys can.

[Brett]

We got comped at the Excalibur. Hey sluggies, I don't know if you know, but we have a producer tier. Halloween is coming up. We're planning a bunch of themed episodes and what's really cool is if you sign up for the producer tier, you to dictate what we do, how we dress, what the theme is. You get to send in advice, you get to send in ideas for segments. And we are at the mercy of your suggestions. So go sign up for that. And also thank you, thank you, thank you to our golden slug, Brandon. I'll tell you a couple things about Brandon. Extremely hot, extremely successful from Texas. Brandon, you don't know him, but he's the homie.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you Brandon.

[Brett]

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[Kyla]

I am so excited because I am officially going on tour and it is starting so soon. We're right around the corner. First September 12th and 13th, I'm going to be in Madison, Wisconsin for the first time ever. I had to reschedule last time and was never able to do it. I cannot wait. These shows are going to be so much fun. Madison, Wisconsin. And then next I'll be in Portland. Portland at the Aladdin Theater. I'm going to be in Seattle at the Neptune. Olympia, Washington, Philly, New York City, Boston. I'm hitting all the best cities this leg up, this tour. So please get tickets. Come see me. It's going to be so much fun. We'll hang. I have all this new material that I've been working on. I can't wait to share it. And you can get tickets@prettylittlebaby tour.com or at the link below. I cannot wait to see you guys. Wait, Kyla, do you even know Leslie?

[Brett]

Of course.

[Esther Povitsky]

What the hell?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

How do you guys know each other?

[Brett]

We've done Tiger Belly.

[Esther Povitsky]

I did Tiger Belly a while ago.

[Brett]

And Kat does Tiger Belly.

[Kyla]

I know that.

[Brett]

I'm so jealous. Also, there are a few Asians that don't know each other. Right there.

[Esther Povitsky]

There must be. We should fix that.

[Kyla]

I'm so jealous.

[Esther Povitsky]

You should have them all together on the podcast and, like, surprise them.

[Brett]

I think we're all aware of each other is what I'm saying.

[Esther Povitsky]

Each other would be shocking. Like, at this point, I feel like I know all the same. All the heavy hitters.

[Brett]

Me too.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which I'm like, honored to know them.

[Leslie Liao]

If you're not a heavy hitter and you're like, oh, yike, sorry.

[Esther Povitsky]

But in my mind, it's like, Fumi Abe is a heavy hitter. Like, Fumi.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Love Fumi. He's such a cutie.

[Leslie Liao]

Maybe a couple months ago, there was a picture that I think Fumi posted and it said, like, Asian mafia or something. Or I think it said something and it had, like, it had you and Irene and, like, all of that. I was like, that'd be so cool to be a part of that.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a good group.

[Leslie Liao]

I got, like, serious. Like, I wish I was Asian in that moment.

[Kyla]

I Have that all the time.

[Leslie Liao]

I wish I was really.

[Brett]

I get that. I really do.

[Esther Povitsky]

I. Yeah, yeah, I see. I understand if people want to be Asian. Yeah, it's fun.

[Kyla]

Kalila, who do we have today?

[Brett]

Today we have two incredibly funny comedians. You've seen them everywhere. You've seen them on my other podcast, Tiger Belly. We have Leslie Liao and Cat Bird.

[Leslie Liao]

Hello. So nice to be here.

[Brett]

You know your Instagram handle fucks me up. Because in my head now I keep thinking your name is Re.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you for saying it because people aren't brave enough to say my IG handle. I had it before I started stand up is Resre Rial. So it's just like the Lululemon way to say my name. And every time I go on like a, you know, mid. Like, there's like these funny middle aged white guys who host these radio stations. They're like, please don't make me say your handle. Like, they just refuse to say Resre riel.

[Leslie Liao]

I know a lot of people that would love to say that.

[Brett]

Just like, phone me up.

[Leslie Liao]

And I was like, I'm doing it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, that's how I say it.

[Leslie Liao]

You're like, no, it's Leslie. They're like, no, it's not.

[Kyla]

Do you guys think there's any possible way that it's true that Lululemon is named that because they. It's anti Asian?

[Brett]

I believe it. I thought it was. I thought that was the truth.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. The lore I heard behind it was the guy who made it was like, oh, it'd be funny if Asians had to say Ru Ru ramen every day. That's what I heard.

[Leslie Liao]

I hear that Lululemon gives you vagina cancer.

[Brett]

I.

[Leslie Liao]

Can I tell you about the vagina cancer?

[Kyla]

Why is it being cancerous? Because of the. It's like plastic material.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

It's just in your vagina. Like, it's just like stuck up in there, I guess. And it's just not. That's my theory. I don't know.

[Kyla]

You just made this up.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm spreading misinformation. I want us to really go for it.

[Kyla]

Lulu causes cancer.

[Leslie Liao]

I heard from one guy, I heard.

[Esther Povitsky]

From one man, we saw one IG post of like a graphic with no evidence. It's just like an. It's like an AI photo and it just says, like, Lululemon equals vagina cancer. And then now we're spreading it.

[Kyla]

I fall for those all day long.

[Leslie Liao]

I do too.

[Esther Povitsky]

All day. Yeah. I take them as truth.

[Leslie Liao]

Do you guys get like, targeted ads that are Kind of disturbing.

[Kyla]

Like, what you go.

[Leslie Liao]

Sometimes I get targeted ads that are like, are you coming out of prison? Like, a lot of them think I have, like, a criminal record and I'm like, coming out of and like, need support.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's the ad for? It's for lawyer.

[Brett]

Like, to. Oh, employment. Not to lawyer up.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, oh, a job.

[Leslie Liao]

You feel like you're out of prison.

[Esther Povitsky]

Employment for jobs.

[Leslie Liao]

And I've looked at the jobs and it's all like babysitting and stuff. So I don't know.

[Brett]

Oh, they take ex felons.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, you've gone as so far to apply for one of these jobs.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm just curious.

[Esther Povitsky]

So she's like. She has an interview after this. You're, like, really going for it? No, we're getting ads for, like, leggings and you're, like, getting work with children.

[Kyla]

I'll admit, I'm pretty shocked to hear that's what you're getting. Yeah, I don't know.

[Leslie Liao]

That's all about. Oh, Cat, I'm sorry.

[Brett]

I mean, you do. You know what? And I say this really sweetly. You do look like you could shit up. Like, you are like a very soft and sweet, but ex prisoner vibes like you ran that shit in there quietly.

[Leslie Liao]

Thank you. Kind of like a house of cards or something like that.

[Brett]

Yeah, I think so. I think like white collar crime.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, I think you have to be smarter for white collar crime.

[Kyla]

Not necessarily.

[Leslie Liao]

They've got all the big words in the white collar. It's like larceny and stuff.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, is that white collar?

[Leslie Liao]

What is larceny?

[Esther Povitsky]

Laundering. Money laundering.

[Leslie Liao]

See, you could be white collar crime person.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, thank you.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, I'm more like blue collar. I think I could be like stabbing.

[Brett]

Ice pick.

[Leslie Liao]

Ice pick.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, you'd be like one of my minions.

[Brett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, I'd be like CEO level.

[Leslie Liao]

Totally.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I would love that. I could work from home. Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice.

[Leslie Liao]

I'll do admin.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

Do filing.

[Brett]

I think you're all white collar. We already know that.

[Kyla]

Me?

[Brett]

Yeah, yeah. There's no stabbing in your body.

[Kyla]

Yeah, I don't have that. I think it's got to be coming from up here.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, you're the mind. You make a phone call.

[Kyla]

Yeah, but you too, girl.

[Leslie Liao]

Just a look.

[Brett]

I think I'm both. I am, you know, I'm a switch hitter. What can I say?

[Leslie Liao]

Awesome.

[Brett]

Yeah, I think I can, you know, be pretty physical and murderous, but I can also think with my head.

[Kyla]

Do you guys know who has been all over my TikTok algorithm, which it's like, I can't believe this is happening. I'm just swooning. I'm swaying. Leonardo DiCaprio is doing press for his new movie. You know how we never see this man speak? We never see him in interviews. He is doing every interview on the red carpet, talking about his new Paul Thomas Anderson movie. He is so charming and smart and, like, this is your hot take.

[Leslie Liao]

He is hard up to go.

[Kyla]

No, no, no, no, no. Because we've been throwing him away.

[Brett]

We know we throw him away a lot.

[Kyla]

And you forget that. Like, sure, he's a great actor. That's one thing. But like, when you just see this guy talking and he's talking about, like, the business and he's just. I'm like, dying. I'm like, I don't care. Throw away.

[Brett]

Please don't do this to me. You cannot reignite my love for him because it hurt that. That. That flame burned for long inside me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Was it his. Just his dating thing?

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, the headphones.

[Brett]

I think so. The headphones thing really took me out of it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't know about the headphones thing.

[Brett]

The lore is that, like, he wears head when he has sexual.

[Esther Povitsky]

I did not know this.

[Leslie Liao]

A lot of NDA side.

[Esther Povitsky]

He wears headphones, like, to. To listen to this podcast.

[Brett]

Podcast. Yeah.

[Kyla]

This is Tuesday Molly Fox models. It's pretty cool.

[Esther Povitsky]

Or noise canceling headphones.

[Brett]

Imagine that would be noise, I think.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just like, oh, I love. I'm a brown noise.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm a brown noise.

[Brett]

Really? Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes.

[Brett]

Wait, what's brown noise?

[Esther Povitsky]

So you don't like white noise?

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, it's very shrieky.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. So some people. If you're working or you need. Some people listen to music, sometimes they'll do, like, jazz in the background, but then white noise is a very, like, soft, comforting. It's just background noise.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's different colors. There's green noise for focus. There's pink noise for sleep, which I do for sleep. It's all on Spotify.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, Yeah. I haven't done pink noise.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then brown noise I do in the morning because I don't want, like, dead silence, but I don't want to listen to, like, like Hamas news and whatever, like, right when I wake up. So brown noise is just something to start.

[Kyla]

So you wait, you listen to the Hamas news?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes.

[Leslie Liao]

Big fans. Or Hamas news.

[Esther Povitsky]

But it's like if you play the new. Which I want to. I do the five minute news just to start the day to be like, okay. I generally know what's happening? And then I can go do a podcast.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, gosh.

[Esther Povitsky]

But then I also feel like I can't do a funny podcast first thing when I wake up because then I don't feel awesome. So it's a. It's a transition.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Brown noise to school.

[Kyla]

I feel like you really have your life together based on.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is that how you have the news?

[Leslie Liao]

Do you have a TV in your home?

[Esther Povitsky]

I. I do, but all I do is I. I go to YouTube and I search coffee shop vibes and then I play like a 12 hour video of, like, an anime coffee shop with, like, a cartoon cat sitting next to it.

[Brett]

I get that. That's sweet. I like those.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. So as I'm working, it's like, it gives me the vibe of I'm in a coffee shop.

[Leslie Liao]

I like that.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm just very strategic with my sounds, and that's smart noise.

[Brett]

But you're somebody that can have background noise. I think that if I really need to get something done, I need pressure, I need to be sweating and I need absolute silence. It's like, it's game time. You're probably. You're turning in your homework late, and it's like, no time to play. If I hear a song, then I'm singing with that song, and it takes me out of it.

[Leslie Liao]

So this is why you could do blue collar crime. I feel like you're in it.

[Brett]

Yeah. In a way that I'm seeking excellence.

[Leslie Liao]

Yes.

[Brett]

And no sound can interfere with my path to excellence.

[Esther Povitsky]

I feel that you need to, like, dead silence to concentrate.

[Brett]

Yeah. Because I'm a procrastinator. I'm not someone that, you know, works two weeks ahead of time to, you know, like, do those people make you mad? They make me sad about myself.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. They make me sad, so I get mad.

[Kyla]

It's really weird that you guys think we're done talking about Leo.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyla]

Did I mention that he's charming?

[Brett]

What?

[Kyla]

Did I mention that his. His teeth are cute?

[Brett]

Did he never fix his teeth?

[Kyla]

They're just, like, weird.

[Brett]

Okay, you're really, really selling me.

[Kyla]

You don't even know what I've been so.

[Brett]

Did you not like when he spoke about the environment? Remember he had that whole document? I was gonna say, like, did you. Did that not titillate?

[Kyla]

You know, because he was, like, so formal and it was, like, really serious. And this. He's just like. He's, like, in a good mood talking to the interviewers. You can tell he really is promoting this movie.

[Brett]

Like, he must really love this pta.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, why is it this movie?

[Kyla]

I think because it's Paul Thomas Anderson. It's gonna be, like, a huge movie. And I think the real kicker is that it'll be in theaters, and, like, people know how important it is to sell, to get butts and seats. And he's doing the dance, and I. I respect it. I respect my man.

[Esther Povitsky]

The thing is, like, I don't. You know, he dates the younger women.

[Leslie Liao]

It's like, I think you would.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, like you. I mean, I. I'm out of his bracket. I'm way out of his bracket.

[Kyla]

But three, eight, you never know.

[Leslie Liao]

Like, for. For, like, that's positive, though. Like, you're.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, that's fine. I'm not trying to.

[Kyla]

That. To just be friends with him. That's fine.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is that your goal?

[Kyla]

Yeah, we can just be friends. Leo.

[Leslie Liao]

Friends and Leo.

[Brett]

Gosh, I'm so angry that I might like him again.

[Kyla]

Oh, you're far.

[Brett]

It took so long to extinguish that flame.

[Esther Povitsky]

He's a banger actor. It's like, what am I supposed to.

[Brett]

He's the hottest.

[Kyla]

Honestly, Jack from Titanic in the Departed is where he's the hottest guy ever.

[Esther Povitsky]

Awesome. Yeah, awesome.

[Kyla]

Wait, okay, so I saw this study, and I want to know what you guys think. Basically, it said that, like, if one of your girlfriends tells you to cut your hair short, it could be a sign that she's, like, competitive and is trying to sabotage you.

[Leslie Liao]

My mom was telling me to cut my hair short.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is this an IG meme you saw or did you read an article?

[Kyla]

I will not be elaborating on study at this time?

[Brett]

Of course, A man and a man and a femininity.

[Esther Povitsky]

The study, aka a youth YouTube reel.

[Brett]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

So I read a study, but my.

[Leslie Liao]

Mom always wanted to have my hair cut short.

[Kyla]

Well, that's probably because she didn't want to have to deal with cleaning it. Right.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, well, now I'm thinking otherwise. Maybe my mom was competitive with me.

[Brett]

It must be a good sign that I've never had girlfriends say, cut your hair. They've mostly signed that you're ugly. It's a good sign that they're basic. They've only been like, hey, it's time for a trim, or whatever.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But never, like, hey, go short or try this.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyla]

I don't believe it.

[Brett]

Oh, my God. In high school, oh, we can bleep her name out. But this. She told my friend, oh, my gosh, these names. She was like, hey, had lashes like this, like this. And she goes you know, if you cut them.

[Esther Povitsky]

No.

[Brett]

That they'll grow double inside.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, she should be in jail.

[Leslie Liao]

She caught them smartest on her part, though.

[Brett]

But, you know, at this time, I. I think that she was just one of those, like, fawning kind of girls. Like, was like, so, like the hot girl. Like a Regina George type of thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

Where, like, you just listen to her.

[Brett]

But then I had the bigger tits and ass, so, like. And she was a little thicker, so the boys always, like, maybe gave her a little bit more attention.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And so, yeah, she cut her lashes.

[Esther Povitsky]

And what happened to the lashes?

[Brett]

I don't think they grew back. I don't know.

[Esther Povitsky]

Actually. I don't know.

[Brett]

Thank God. Like, you shed your lashes, so new ones grow, but, like, for weeks, I'm sure she just had, like, blunt. Like, a blunt cut.

[Esther Povitsky]

She grows back. Any sticker, they just grow back as normal. But it's not like.

[Leslie Liao]

But she also had big boobs and a big butt.

[Brett]

Big butt. So maybe she has everything.

[Esther Povitsky]

I am jealous of her, though. Yeah, you can have lashes, boobs. I have none of. I have none of the three. I have. I have. I have hair, which is nice.

[Brett]

Hair is a huge.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, I'm happy with this, but I got no lashes, no butt, no boobs.

[Kyla]

I think you should cut your hair.

[Esther Povitsky]

Really? Really. Really.

[Kyla]

That's what I was envy.

[Esther Povitsky]

So you're saying you're jealous?

[Kyla]

People are saying, you want me to cut my hair or what?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, you're doing. You're fine anyways. No, put that hat on. Put that cute little hat back on.

[Kyla]

I don't think I believe this. I don't know. I think it's, like, it definitely doesn't apply to me. In my life and the people that I know.

[Esther Povitsky]

Have you ever told someone they should cut their hair short?

[Kyla]

I think never, because I'm so pro long hair.

[Brett]

I don't think I've ever given people advice on their appearance. Like, what to do with themselves. Yeah, like, that seems a lot of, like, a lot of, like, too much observation in the wrong place. It's like, why am I looking at my homegirls like this? Like, yeah, yeah, real hot. It's fine.

[Leslie Liao]

Also, I don't know if I'm gonna give the best advice. I'm still trying to figure out, you know, like, my bra size. I feel like all the time it changes. Don't you feel like.

[Brett]

Can I tell you a really sad story about my tits?

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm not gonna feel sad.

[Leslie Liao]

You've got great tits. But.

[Brett]

Okay, so backstory. I used to have implants. They were double Ds. After a year, I took them out because I'm like, I hate these things. So I went back to being size a A cups, and then I got pregnant. And then they grew and I mean, they were like, up to here. And then breastfeeding up to here. Right. But you know what grew with them? My areolas. Dinner plates. Dinner plates.

[Leslie Liao]

Can you see them?

[Kyla]

I can't prove it. Liar.

[Brett]

And everyone, all the mothers out there are like, don't worry. When, like, you stop breastfeed feeding, they're gonna go back down. Your areolas will go back down. And I don't know how. I just can't foresee it. Like, imagine the sad part about all of this is that my tits are gonna go back down. But will my areolas go down with them?

[Esther Povitsky]

How have they changed since? Have you noticed a difference? Are they the same?

[Brett]

I'm still breastfeeding is why. So they're still big and, like, juicy.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, God, they sound awesome.

[Brett]

Thanks.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I ask us, what are you guys complaining about? What is this all feels like really positive. Juicy. Like, what the. I've. No one has ever described my breast breasts as juicy.

[Leslie Liao]

They.

[Esther Povitsky]

My breasts have stopped, like, physically. They look like eighth grade. Yeah, me too.

[Leslie Liao]

I feel like mine are anemic. That's what I would get. Like, oh, they're skeletor.

[Kyla]

Wait, Kyle, I have a serious but potentially offensive question, but it's just.

[Brett]

I'm projecting Asians.

[Kyla]

No, no, not today.

[Leslie Liao]

Let's talk about.

[Kyla]

Are you at all thinking about or considering like, one of those, like, post. Post mom surgeries where they redo the boobies?

[Brett]

I'm never gonna put anything in my body anymore.

[Kyla]

Not that, but, like, whatever it is that they do, because I have seen before and afters where they will, like, somehow, which sounds so gross to me, but, like, they'll make the areola smaller and they'll, like, lift, but don't add.

[Brett]

I have to really ask myself, like, who am I doing it for? What am I doing it for? Because going under anesthesia, going under some. That type of, like, really invasive surgery, like, I've done it before. I hated it, like, had long, like, healing time. So I would have to really consider what am I doing this for? Because are my. Are these new titties, like, fine? And, like, my partner's not leaving me. We're not leaving each other. We have a baby. Like, we're tethered together.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

And your body's beautiful.

[Brett]

Thank you.

[Leslie Liao]

It's just a new, like a new version of your body. How cool is that?

[Kyla]

You know?

[Brett]

But if I start to look in the mirror and it's really bringing me down where it's like, ugh, like I can't stop thinking about it, I might consider it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think you're right. It's like, who are you doing it for? You only do it for you.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Isn't that the idea?

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

I've got tiny areolas.

[Brett]

Oh. They're kind of like little quarters. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Goodness. Is that. Is that what's trending with areolas now? Like, is it. Do people like, Is there a YouTube targeted ad? Yeah. I don't know. What's the. What's the newest trend on.

[Kyla]

But. But I don't. I asked because I've gone through some changes as well, and I don't think I'm there yet. But I do wonder.

[Brett]

Tell me about the surgeries. Do they just like, bring him. Is it just.

[Kyla]

I don't know what they do. I've just seen before and afters and I'm like, whoa. They just like, like lift. They're small and it's like my ride kind of.

[Brett]

So that is. How do I say? Like, the idea sounds like something I would do. Because to go smaller and just never wear a bra is a dream to me.

[Esther Povitsky]

I love small boobies.

[Brett]

Small boobies.

[Esther Povitsky]

So nice.

[Brett]

No bra. It sounds like the. The best thing on earth. So if I. I think that if I see that they're just still heavy and like kind of inconvenient, I might consider it.

[Leslie Liao]

I like having small boobs, but every once in a while I'd like to walk into a bar and be objectified for boobs.

[Brett]

Can I tell you that this is what I thought I wanted when I got the double Ds. Yeah. Cuz I'm like, it's still my Vegas party era. Like, I still do Hakasan, you know, I still do pool parties. I still do this. There's some ratchet. These were my ratchet years. I lasted a year with those and I. The attention you think you want is literally like. It's gonna. It's the bane of your existence. It's so annoying. Cuz these dudes are so low caliber. The dudes that go for just tits are so low caliber, you don't even want to have a conversation with them.

[Kyla]

What is it even like?

[Brett]

It's so just like.

[Kyla]

They just stare at you.

[Brett]

Yeah. I remember going into Vegas and like, we'll bleep his name out, but like, this was playing.

[Leslie Liao]

He was objectifying you.

[Brett]

I literally got pulled to immediately to the side getting them tomorrow. I was there with. With Jenna.

[Kyla]

She's like, do you have those implants laying around? Can I recycle?

[Brett]

So, like, so I was there with Jenna, who has great tits but not the biggest. I was there with another gorgeous friend, but they didn't give a about my face. The guy was literally like, cherry picked me out. And he was like, hey, wants to, like, meet you. Like, let's stand behind, like, the DJ booth. And I was like, yeah, can I bring my friends? And he was like, no. And I was like, oh, it was sounding good.

[Kyla]

You are.

[Brett]

I can't even go, you know, like. Like, do this with my homegirls. It's just. It was. I hated it.

[Leslie Liao]

But was he nice?

[Brett]

I didn't go, oh, I wouldn't leave my friends.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, that's.

[Brett]

Oh, would you?

[Leslie Liao]

I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big. Big tits out. This is about to seduce me, you know, from here down.

[Brett]

But, yeah, I think they have those, like. What do they call? I mean, comedians. Sick comedian. Male comedians have them.

[Esther Povitsky]

The.

[Brett]

The people that pick girls out of the crowd.

[Kyla]

Oh, yeah. Kathy Griffin was telling us about that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do they have a name? The people that pick.

[Kyla]

Pick a spotter.

[Brett]

Spotter.

[Kyla]

Kathy Griffin said that, like, her male contemporaries, like, when they would go on tour, would have spotters for her. No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, God, I'm so naive. I didn't even know this word existed. A spotter.

[Leslie Liao]

I'd like a spotter just, like, all of his teeth.

[Esther Povitsky]

Or for, like, a random.

[Leslie Liao]

That's my God.

[Esther Povitsky]

To, like, a random guy in Tulsa.

[Kyla]

Wait, are you saying that if someone at your show has all their teeth, that's all you need?

[Brett]

That's your bar.

[Leslie Liao]

It's pretty low. And is it hard to find sometimes? Honestly, it's. I. I think I attract a weird. Weird.

[Brett]

Well, you're into all teeth. I'm into some missing.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, cool. How about, like, a little gold bracket?

[Brett]

I love a gold bracket. I love dentures. I love a popping tooth.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, my God.

[Brett]

I mean, Bobby has, like, six teeth left.

[Kyla]

What would your spotter be looking for?

[Leslie Liao]

401K success.

[Esther Povitsky]

What a financially successful man.

[Kyla]

Was that what her spotter is like in the back? Just googling every name that bought a ticket. So smart.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, what's your job? Like, what's your background? Like, what can I see?

[Leslie Liao]

W2?

[Esther Povitsky]

The most successful. Like, yeah, I have physical types, but I also, like, I'm not single, but if I did have a. If I was single, it'd be like, who respects women? I don't know. Can you tell that from looking at someone?

[Brett]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Brett]

Because you have. Unfortunately. The performative male.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh yeah.

[Brett]

That's scary.

[Leslie Liao]

Scary.

[Brett]

I made.

[Kyla]

Wait, who is this?

[Brett]

What?

[Leslie Liao]

I don't know this person.

[Brett]

The performative male is usually a guy who is an ally to all things the LGBTQIA community. He talks about hot topic issues in a very informed way. He is. He's a feminist, but it's for show.

[Leslie Liao]

This guy sounds awful.

[Brett]

He. It's a costume. It's not really who he's. Deep down, he will verbally abuse you. He will treat you no different than the Republican pig that you know. He. It's all performance and scary.

[Leslie Liao]

I know a few people like that.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's all to like, get a girl.

[Brett]

It's all for optics.

[Leslie Liao]

Is he tall?

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, she's not talking about like one specific guy. What are his initials? I think I him last night.

[Brett]

Who was this guy?

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait a second.

[Brett]

Because he didn't ask it like it was one guy. You were like, wait, I don't know him.

[Kyla]

Who is he?

[Leslie Liao]

What are you saying?

[Esther Povitsky]

We're not talking about like many men.

[Leslie Liao]

She's like, I wish you guys would.

[Kyla]

Just tell me who he is.

[Esther Povitsky]

She's like, is it cuz I, I him at TA in 2018? Wait, I love that you had a Vegas. I had a hardcore Vegas era.

[Kyla]

What?

[Leslie Liao]

Oh my God, me too.

[Brett]

Wait, what years did we. Did we crossover?

[Esther Povitsky]

20 to 32?

[Brett]

Yes. Okay. 32 was my cut off too.

[Esther Povitsky]

32? Yeah.

[Brett]

I mean, shoot.

[Esther Povitsky]

Have you, have you been to Vegas recently? Like post your Vegas era?

[Brett]

Can't do it. It's. I. I feel like a dark energy. I need to get the fuck out of that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I have a rebuttal?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

My non comic friends are like lawyers, doctors. They're. They have like houses and children and they're like, they. I don't belong with them. I don't know why they hang out with me. We recently went to Vegas in our like late mid-30s and did it adult style and it's lovely, like caviar and stuff.

[Leslie Liao]

Stuff.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't know what you're saying, but my cav actually kind of. Kind of CUZ in our 20s, we'd go to a pool party with no table, no ticket. We just be hot girls and just be. Be spotted, be ushered into a table. We got our own cabana, Front row cabana for, you know, the DJ Fisher at Tow beach something. We had our own cabana. We ordered Sushi. We got like. Yeah, basically caviar. Yeah, basically California rolls. Whatever. You know, there were like, 22 year olds trying to even stand near our cabana.

[Leslie Liao]

That's so.

[Brett]

Did your heart break for them?

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, I feel like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Actually, no. I told security. Can you tell her to not. She's dripping on my towel. Can you. And I literally, with pride, I go. She's like. There was, you know, drunk dudes, drunk girls.

[Cash App Rep]

Me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. And her little hat. Right through that, I was like. I was like, she disgusts me. Can you. I was telling. You know what I mean? Like, I paid to have people off my property. It was my cabana. These cabanas aren't cheap, dude. Republican in Vegas.

[Kyla]

Wait, how much is the command? I need to know. I'm from freaking out.

[Brett]

It's in the. What, like in the thousands.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, it's not.

[Brett]

Yeah, it was.

[Esther Povitsky]

It was 10 of us.

[Brett]

Because with the cabana comes the bottles. We had bottles in my day. One bottle and one shitty table off to the side was okay. So I can imagine the cabana on, like, a weekend is a weekend.

[Esther Povitsky]

It was a beautiful, sunny day. It was like 10 of us. We had the food, the service. You're the 1%. Yeah. In Vegas, I love to be the 1%.

[Leslie Liao]

That's great.

[Esther Povitsky]

And. And it's worth it. So I embraced that. And then we went to a restaurant, like a Jose Andres that I will.

[Brett]

I will say Vegas is great for. Because, you know, we go to Best Friend. We go to that one noodle place off the Strip. The food. Yes. I think what I failed to do the last time, because I did the shows, I did the food.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brett]

I. I need to revisit the pool parties as an adult.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes.

[Brett]

I. I haven't done that. Like, my only memories of pool parties is like, literally, like a murky pool because everyone's like, oh, I don't. Stop putting jizzed on it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

You don't go in the pool.

[Esther Povitsky]

No. You're in the cabana.

[Brett]

No, you're too. You were too grown to be in.

[Leslie Liao]

The pool of the pool.

[Brett]

You're gonna get, like, Chaga's disease there. It's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't touch the pool. I think you'll see it once you see it with sober eyes. You're like, I'm not going in there.

[Kyla]

Yes.

[Leslie Liao]

Whoa. I don't know. I still. I don't even go to restaurants in Vegas. I just eat at Starbucks.

[Kyla]

What? I remember that I actually, like, had a good Vegas hack, which was that I would go to a Chipotle and get, like, a single taco.

[Leslie Liao]

That's awesome.

[Kyla]

And, like, then your. Each meal is so cheap, but now it's like, they have all the best sushi places. They have everything. And it's all so close together, so I feel like you can really pack in so much. Whereas, like, in la, to go from. To get to, like, that fancy place would be like an hour of traffic.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

And in Vegas, it's just like a long walk, you know?

[Brett]

You really sold it to me. I.

[Esther Povitsky]

You should try it as an adult, dude. Treat yourself to the nice dinner, the nice cabana, one nice show, one. One clubbing night. And just go proper. Like, treat yourself.

[Brett]

The things I look back on now, which I. I think in re. I. I used to think, oh, my God, what a terrible thing I did. How ratchet, how unclassy was. You know, we would take our shoes off and you would. I'd be the girl stumbling out of the club because without the end of.

[Esther Povitsky]

The night 100, without the shoes.

[Brett]

And then for a minute there, I was like, ew. Like, that's not me anymore. But then I'm like, wait, we actually got to do that without cameras, without anything. Like, we had, like, the pure fun of, like, ratchet freedom.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, I can.

[Esther Povitsky]

I have no regrets.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, sorry.

[Esther Povitsky]

No go.

[Leslie Liao]

I've had too much coffee.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's, like, hardly coffee in that. It's just like. It's like pecan. Yes.

[Leslie Liao]

Like, you know, when I was doing the Ratchet era, we didn't pay for anything. We got a promo. We got a promoter room at a, like, the.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, even your room.

[Leslie Liao]

Circus, or what is it called? Circus Circus.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's not the Flex Circuses.

[Leslie Liao]

It was so much fun. Anyway, we got really drunk.

[Brett]

Circus. I see what you're saying.

[Kyla]

When people at your shows have no teeth.

[Leslie Liao]

What?

[Esther Povitsky]

Promoters are giving girls free circus Circus. So even if you were to pay for a circus, I'm sure it's like $80 a night.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm sure you guys do. They're like, just like, we got comped.

[Brett]

At the Excalibur.

[Leslie Liao]

But we went there, and they're like, okay, whatever.

[Kyla]

You just.

[Leslie Liao]

You can stay. You can stay at Circus Circus, but you have to go to our promoter shows, like, and, you know, be the hot girls at the show. So my best friend Robin and I, we, like, went to these shows, and one night, one of them was a brunch show. So we got super drunk, and we're like, we're gonna go to this brunch show, and we assumed that there was gonna be brunch there, but there was no brunch at the show.

[Brett]

Not at Circus Circus.

[Leslie Liao]

No, no. It was just, like, really gross. They had, like, caprice goldfish, Capri suns. And she said, like.

[Brett]

Oh, Kat, I feel like just for you, I want to redo Vegas.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

I honestly think we should.

[Kyla]

For this conversation. We should cut this out. Hot.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you notice how none of us are laughing and we're just very sad?

[Brett]

You're like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Because I don't know.

[Leslie Liao]

It was so much fun.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, so. So brunch, meaning it was the hours of brunch. That's what they meant by the brunch show.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. So we didn't eat and we came in, like, really? Because we were. We were thought we were going to eat brunch. So we were starving and we were.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, we're going to go to a buffet breakfast.

[Leslie Liao]

We were like, ready for. For like, like, I don't know, canapes or something. And they didn't have anything. They just had, like, finger. They had. They had like, like gold. Yeah, like gold mix and gold fish.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then you went to a child's lunch. This is a child.

[Leslie Liao]

We got to stay at the Circus Circus. So it was like.

[Kyla]

Let's finish that sentence. Actually, don't.

[Leslie Liao]

Anyway, I. Okay, so.

[Esther Povitsky]

And you thought this was fun.

[Leslie Liao]

I was so much. I had so much fun. Come on.

[Brett]

Back in the street. I see what you're saying.

[Kyla]

It's like when you're rough in it.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Like the first time. Like think about the first or second time you went to Vegas before we figured out, like, the promoter issue, before we figured out that you could get comp. Doing it before you could figure out, oh, I can do this all for free. Before.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah. I mean, I found myself at Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville making out with some like, 50 year old dude from like, Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, Jimmy Buffett, basically. And you're right. Those were the most fun memories ever where it's like we're barely surviving. We don't know our next. Where our next meal we're going to eat. Coming. Like, we're trying to, like, we think we're hustling. We think we're getting like the one up on the Vegas Experience, but we're really just passing away slowly over the weekend.

[Esther Povitsky]

Totally.

[Brett]

No, I get that. And I do have fond memories of. Of. Of that. I get it.

[Leslie Liao]

But yeah, maybe a different. Maybe a little bit more elevated this time.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. When you were saying. When you were saying you got comped. Like, me and eight girlfriends would go walk towards a club, like, and all the promoters like, okay, here's there's like eight hot girls who, they're not gonna buy a table. So they would just give us a bottle of vodka.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

And somewhere to sit.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's what I'm thinking when I say comped. You just got a Capri sun at noon at the Circus Circus lobby. This is different.

[Kyla]

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[Kyla]

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[Cash App Rep]

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[Brett]

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[Kyla]

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[Brett]

Something has changed this week and what is it? Are we doing an apple break instead of a banana break?

[Esther Povitsky]

How this is so nice. How exciting is this for you?

[Leslie Liao]

This is cool.

[Esther Povitsky]

Look a free app. Look. Is it a.

[Leslie Liao]

What kind of apple?

[Kyla]

I just want to give a shout.

[Leslie Liao]

Out to to Granny Smith. Honeycrisp oh honeycrisp.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is this sponsored by any apple brand?

[Brett]

Sponsored by Esther's love for only honeycrisp.

[Kyla]

Honeycrisp apples are the best apples.

[Brett]

Really?

[Kyla]

Yes.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you bite straight out of them or do you slice them up?

[Kyla]

I At home, I slice them and dip them. I gotta slice them up and yogurt and peanut butter.

[Esther Povitsky]

You couldn't pay me to buy them.

[Leslie Liao]

Are we allowed to eat them or are they allowed?

[Kyla]

This is supposed to be our fall themed episode asmr. So we need to get some fall going.

[Brett]

By the way, it's still 100 degrees outside.

[Kyla]

Guy, our producer is like, it's cold today. I'm like, don't get out of control.

[Esther Povitsky]

She was just referring to the AC in the room.

[Brett]

Can I show you guys what I had to do? Because I.

[Leslie Liao]

Show us. Are these. They can't believe these are natural.

[Brett]

Put this in my armpits because that's how hot I am in this sweater. In this fall sweater staring at my tits.

[Kyla]

Yeah, we have some fall games, right? What is going on? What do you have?

[Leslie Liao]

We have games.

[Kyla]

So we're doing a fall themed spelling bee.

[Leslie Liao]

How fun.

[Esther Povitsky]

So you're gonna say the word and I have to spell it?

[Kyla]

Yeah, these are. Ellie, do you think we're brain dead poor?

[Esther Povitsky]

Literally. It's working class.

[Kyla]

Okay, I'm going to say the word, then I'm to going. Going to give you the definition and then I'm going to use it in a sentence.

[Leslie Liao]

Don't look. You can't think.

[Kyla]

The word is butternut.

[Brett]

Oh, wow.

[Kyla]

The definition is a North American walnut tree bearing oblong fruit. And for dinner he gave me a butternut.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, he did. I don't think that's right. A butternut from behind.

[Kyla]

It's an innuendo.

[Brett]

He butternutted in me that.

[Leslie Liao]

Ooh. He butternutted. And I.

[Kyla]

You spell butternut, you better be able to.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, I believe I can. I'm glad it's so easy. And it is one word, right? Well, butternut. B U T T E R N u T. That is correct. Thank you. Thank you.

[Leslie Liao]

Good job. Come on.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm Asian. I'm glad we started soft. The word is pump. Pumpkin. Pumpkin. Pumpkin. Do you need any more context to the word?

[Leslie Liao]

I want all of the context.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Have you ever seen a pumpkin? What's your experience with pumpkin?

[Leslie Liao]

This is the question portion. It's not an interview.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm taking this close to your experience with a pumpkin. What's your relationship with pumpkins? Okay, the definition. Orange orbs that are known to turn into horse drawn carriages in order to transport underprivileged maidens to the ball.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, I know a little bit about mid. Okay. Pumpkin. P U M P K I n. Pumpkin.

[Esther Povitsky]

Pumpkin. Very good.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is the legal spelling According to this card.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, you know what's funny? In the sentence, pumpkin is spelled wrong. Oh, P, U, M, K, I, n. How do we deduct points in the sentence? My pumpkin called me last night.

[Brett]

I do think that is a cute. Like a pumpkin.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, I love that.

[Esther Povitsky]

I never call anyone pumpkin, but that's cute.

[Leslie Liao]

I feel like it's like a Southern thing. Like, I'll pump, get, get, get, get, get.

[Kyla]

I feel like when you're five feet tall, you can't really call anyone else pumpkin.

[Brett]

Do you use any terms of endearment?

[Kyla]

I don't think so.

[Esther Povitsky]

What do you call your significant other?

[Kyla]

Mr. Dave.

[Esther Povitsky]

Mister.

[Leslie Liao]

That sounds.

[Esther Povitsky]

Whoa.

[Leslie Liao]

That's kind of Mr. Dave.

[Brett]

Mr. Dave.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I have a bite of apple? Mr. Dave. Mr. Dave. I have to go to the bathroom.

[Leslie Liao]

That's cute. I like that.

[Kyla]

I just made that up.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's not what I call him.

[Leslie Liao]

Mr. Dave. Can I go to the bathroom?

[Esther Povitsky]

Mike.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay. I'm gonna keep going down. Okay. Autumn.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's kind of hard.

[Brett]

That is one definition.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay. Yeah. Definition. The third season of the year when crops and fruits are gathered and leaves fall. Or the name of a young, probably white woman, typically blonde.

[Brett]

Autumn. A u, T, U, m. Nice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Nice.

[Leslie Liao]

That is.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's not an easy one.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, here you go.

[Brett]

Esther.

[Host]

The word is hayride.

[Brett]

Definition.

[Esther Povitsky]

So pissed.

[Brett]

Multiple sexual acts which occur in a rural setting. What sentence are you guys having a hayride? Yes. Every Wednesday.

[Kyla]

H a Y R I D E E. Correct.

[Esther Povitsky]

Nice. That is really good. Is it a sexual act? I've never heard hayride.

[Leslie Liao]

I don't know, but sometimes, you know, if you urban dictionary stuff, you can find a lot. Yeah.

[Brett]

Why don't we go straight to level four?

[Leslie Liao]

I'll be honest. I've struggled with Pumpkin, so maybe we just do level three for the moment.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Autumn.

[Brett]

I. I thought I had Autumn, but then I had to think about it.

[Leslie Liao]

It gets in your head.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. These are going to get intense and sexy.

[Kyla]

They're not. They're not that intense. Okay, last cornucopia.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is intense.

[Brett]

What is that?

[Kyla]

A symbol of abundance, consisting of a goat's horn overflowing with flowers, fruit and corn.

[Esther Povitsky]

What?

[Leslie Liao]

That's a cornucopia, actually.

[Brett]

Oh, that's what a cornucopia is?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, there's a different word for that. I thought.

[Kyla]

No, this is cornucopia.

[Leslie Liao]

This is like Hunger Games. Remember the cornucopia and Hunger Games?

[Esther Povitsky]

I didn't watch Hunger Games.

[Leslie Liao]

No, you have to read it.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I don't Actually, you know what I do? I watch YouTube. Summaries of books. Literally.

[Brett]

Literally.

[Esther Povitsky]

The other day. Have you heard of Wuthering Heights?

[Brett]

Yeah, of course.

[Esther Povitsky]

I watched a 10 minute YouTube summary and it was animated and it was very helpful.

[Kyla]

Oh, I want to see that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I'll send it to you. I'll send you the link.

[Leslie Liao]

The Brown Noise.

[Esther Povitsky]

We should do a book club of, like, YouTube. Summaries of books. It's very helpful. There's visual aids. Yeah. Spark notes for your eyes. Okay. Cornucopia. This is a word I never use. I'm gonna assume we're in the C family, right? It's not K. She's not giving me anything.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

C. Corn is C. O, R, N. That is corn.

[Leslie Liao]

That is.

[Esther Povitsky]

Now we're moving on to the opia section. What? I'm going to say what? I'm going to.

[Brett]

What?

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm feeling an A.

[Kyla]

You're wrong.

[Leslie Liao]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

What?

[Brett]

What?

[Kyla]

You failed.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, it's O.

[Kyla]

Wrong again.

[Esther Povitsky]

What other letters are there?

[Brett]

Corn. It's you. Corn. Cornucopia.

[Esther Povitsky]

Cornucopia. Did you know that?

[Kyla]

I don't know, because once I look at it, it's like, I don't know what I would have known.

[Leslie Liao]

Do you want me to take it away now?

[Esther Povitsky]

Sure.

[Kyla]

Oh, my God, this next one is so hard.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay. Cornucopia.

[Kyla]

No, no, no. It's over.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't even know how to say this word.

[Leslie Liao]

I can kind of.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, sorry.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, yeah, this one is bad. It's hard.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't even know this word.

[Leslie Liao]

This is not good for me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Chrysanthemum.

[Brett]

Oh, I got you because it's one of my favorite flowers.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, okay.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

C, R, Y. Nope. No, I. Chris.

[Brett]

Chris. What's a missing letter?

[Leslie Liao]

There, see are.

[Esther Povitsky]

Chrysanthemum.

[Brett]

Think of the name. Chris.

[Leslie Liao]

Chris. It's an S. There's an S in there. There's next to the C. N, H. Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Have you. Have you heard this word before?

[Leslie Liao]

It's a flower.

[Esther Povitsky]

It is a flower.

[Brett]

My favorite flower.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, let me try. Let me. Let me try.

[Esther Povitsky]

Chrysanthemum.

[Leslie Liao]

Ch. Yes.

[Brett]

The H is the crucial R. Yes.

[Kyla]

Why?

[Esther Povitsky]

I didn't get coaching. I didn't get coaching.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, the. Okay, let me just try. I start to cry.

[Brett]

You stop at the S. Okay.

[Leslie Liao]

S. Chris. R, Y. Okay. C, H, R, Y, S. Phanthemum.

[Brett]

T, H. You already. No, no, it's. You forgot the an A. N, Th.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can we just say she's getting it wrong?

[Brett]

Because.

[Esther Povitsky]

And this is some, like, tiger Mom, I didn't get any coaching for cornucopia. The second I said A, you're like, wrong, wrong, wrong.

[Brett]

He didn't look at me. I was like, ooh, cornu.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know, but she straight up said cry. You're like, no, there's an H. Like, you're. Oh. You didn't give her a look.

[Leslie Liao]

She was supporting me.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't like my children's white kid, like, handout.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, well, she didn't hand you out anything.

[Esther Povitsky]

No point.

[Kyla]

Neither of you guys got the chrysanthemum. No one so far. No one has.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know it.

[Brett]

I do know chrysanthemum. Okay, so let's switch to the next one, because I. I do know chrysanthemum.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, you were kind of close.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, I was nowhere close. This is an insane word.

[Esther Povitsky]

You saw, like, cry Santa.

[Leslie Liao]

Cry Santa.

[Esther Povitsky]

Mum M u m. What does this flower look like? I don't know. Why I'm not.

[Brett]

It depends where.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. Different colors based on the soil.

[Brett]

Right?

[Leslie Liao]

It could be from red.

[Brett]

It depends.

[Leslie Liao]

Fun.

[Brett]

Fun.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. Yes.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, I'm thinking of a hydrangea. I love hydrangea.

[Brett]

I think it's hydrangea. Not.

[Kyla]

Hi, stranger danger.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, okay. I actually would know how to spell this one. And this is.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think you're getting reader's ego. It's. Once you read the word, you're like, I know cornucopia. Everyone knows the cornucopia. Maybe, like, a little cornucopia.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay, someone's a little bitter about cornucopia.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm really triggered.

[Brett]

All right.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay. Ready? Yeah. Okay. Macchiato.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, for the Italian word, macchiato.

[Host]

M a, she went.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Brett]

C, C, H, I, A, T, O.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, there's no H. There's an H. There is an.

[Brett]

There's an H. Is that two T's? No, it's one T. Girl, I love macchiato. Yeah, macchiato. I don't even drink coffee, but you have to know macchiato.

[Kyla]

What is a macchiato?

[Leslie Liao]

Now, here, let me define it for you. Espresso with a dash of frothy steamed milk.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's like a mint milk.

[Leslie Liao]

I would like a tall caramel macchiato, please. With all his teeth. Okay, I wish I never did that.

[Brett]

The word is coniferous.

[Kyla]

I've never heard that word in my life.

[Brett]

Like, think coniferous. Sorry, I might be saying it wrong with my accent.

[Kyla]

What is. I need the definition.

[Brett]

Okay, definition. It's of a tree producing cones and having leaves that do not fall off. In the winter.

[Kyla]

Okay, I've never heard the word, but.

[Brett]

I'm gonna try and sentence. Red squirrels live in coniferous forests.

[Kyla]

C O, N, N, I, F, E, R O, U, S. Whatever.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, okay, whatever.

[Leslie Liao]

I've never heard this word in my life. C O, N, R, F O, R.

[Esther Povitsky]

H, Q, A, T, R H. Okay.

[Leslie Liao]

But basically, we're actually. We're the.

[Brett]

Losing me and Esther, head to head.

[Kyla]

No, you guys.

[Esther Povitsky]

You guys go. I can't, I can't. I can't. Save it for the Patriot.

[Leslie Liao]

Why don't we do the medium level so you and me can do that?

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. We're just gonna be in the parking lot.

[Leslie Liao]

Do you want Less Leslie and I to do it for you guys? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, this is fun. So I read this. Oh, you.

[Brett]

You gave it to me first.

[Kyla]

Well, because I know I saw it.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Kyla]

And it's.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm just gonna say your word is persimmon.

[Brett]

I. This is.

[Kyla]

Ah, they're so good. I love them.

[Brett]

God. Okay, so here's where I. Can I explain My Jag. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

Yes.

[Brett]

My Jag with persimmons. My whole life has always been, is it two S's or two M's? So don't tell me, but so in. When I think about the word, my natural thing is always to double the S and never double the M. So I think what makes persimmon difficult is that I should go against the grain and double the M. So my guess is persimmon. P, E, R, S, I, M, M.

[Esther Povitsky]

O, N. That is correct.

[Brett]

You nailed it.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is correct.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, my gosh, that was cute.

[Esther Povitsky]

You go into it philosophical with it, like you examined your identity.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. And she's like, I'm going against the opposite.

[Brett]

I did these 90s when I was young.

[Leslie Liao]

You did. She's screaming, give it to me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Give it to me.

[Leslie Liao]

Mom is screaming. Jesus. Okay. The one thing I will say about a few of these words, they're not English words. Okay?

[Brett]

Right.

[Leslie Liao]

Macchiato Italia.

[Esther Povitsky]

Cornucopia. Greek.

[Leslie Liao]

That's actually.

[Brett]

Oh, I don't know.

[Esther Povitsky]

I just made that up.

[Brett]

Probably Latin.

[Esther Povitsky]

Cornucopia. Japanese.

[Leslie Liao]

Japanese. Okay. Esther Gourmand.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, wow.

[Brett]

Okay. Yeah.

[Kyla]

G O U r M A, N D. Kill them.

[Esther Povitsky]

You guys are like, okay, no one clap.

[Leslie Liao]

Next. Can we go to the loser rap? Leslie and I, we can start.

[Brett]

There's one more. We gotta keep going. I gotta.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm scared.

[Kyla]

Let's go, let's go.

[Brett]

One more.

[Esther Povitsky]

What does gourmand mean?

[Leslie Liao]

It means, like, a French foodie. Like, gourmand is the French word to eat.

[Kyla]

I think we should just settle it there.

[Brett]

Okay. Thank you.

[Cash App Rep]

You.

[Brett]

Well done. Everyone.

[Leslie Liao]

Everyone, good job.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sorry I yelled.

[Kyla]

One of our patrons has asked for some advice.

[Brett]

Fellow sluggies, please help me. I'm in need of some advice. My husband brought up the topic of an open relationship. I kind of knew this day would come because I'm the only woman he has ever slept with. And I know that people get curious. So I guess what I'm asking is, has anyone ever opened up their relationship? If so, how did it work?

[Kyla]

I wish Jenna was here.

[Brett]

I know.

[Leslie Liao]

Home.

[Kyla]

One of our good friends who's often on the show. She's gone. She's in a relationship now that has been open and closed and open and closed.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, it's. Oh, wow. I have never been in an open relationship, and I think I'd be horrible at it.

[Leslie Liao]

I have.

[Brett]

Yeah, tell us.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm pro. I kind of knew this day. This is. This is interesting because it's like. It feels like a fear because she knew this was. She knew was gonna happen. So it's kind of this. I think that layers it a little bit where it's like, she's been anticipating something like this happening. Now it's finally happened. I think if you love something, you gotta let it go, right? And then it, like, just let it. Enjoy the oats. And she can do that too, Right? I knew. So she.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't know if she wants it.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, okay.

[Brett]

And that's it. I think that's key. If you don't want it, you need to just not pretend that you want it. You cannot pretend that you're playing.

[Leslie Liao]

You can't make that person want to stay in that relationship if they want something, something else. Do you know what I mean?

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm gonna be dramatic and say, it's already done. Like, it's done. He. He voiced. It's open. If she doesn't want it to be open, he. And. And I don't blame him. He's only slept with one woman. Like, I. I get. I get his curiosity. It's like, totally so. Because he didn't go to Vegas. Yeah, he should have gone to Vegas. He didn't go to Hakkasan.

[Leslie Liao]

He didn't go.

[Esther Povitsky]

Every man. I'm telling you, all the young men listening. Go to Hakkasan this weekend. Weekend.

[Kyla]

Take your shoes off.

[Esther Povitsky]

Have some consensual relations.

[Leslie Liao]

Go to circus.

[Esther Povitsky]

Get it, get it. No, no, no, no, no. Don't listen to Cat, I'm telling you, do not listen to Cat. Don't go to Circus Starbucks. There is no at Circus Circus. What the hell? That's their. That's their. That's their slogan. We got no here, but we got a one Capri sun for each.

[Leslie Liao]

We got.

[Esther Povitsky]

But. But I understand his curiosity. It's. It's, like, almost fair. And she knew this was gonna happen. It's, like, already done. So you either have to, like, either let him be open, and then if you love him that much, let him do it, and then maybe he'll come back.

[Kyla]

I think that this is almost above the pay grade of those in the relationship, and it really is screaming to me, let's take this to a couples counselor, and let's communicate, and let's be like, here's.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's the right answer.

[Leslie Liao]

Here's how Circus Circus Pussy says.

[Kyla]

Here's how I. I really feel. Because for whatever reason, it's just easier to open up when there's a guided person there. And I think you could get really far in figuring it out, because right now, I don't have enough information to know how. And maybe you don't even. How serious is he about this? How serious are you guys about spending the rest of your lives together? I think there's so many questions that I think a good counseling session could.

[Brett]

Like, get into, even with a counselor, without getting too deep into my own shit, even with the counselor guiding you, it can still very much go awry. And I think with open relationships, if both people don't already have, like, a hundred percent. Like, if you're. If you're not already 100% in your relationship, if both cups aren't already full, if you're not, like, we're so down to for each other. I love this thing we have. You know, we're both kind. We have. We're both a little poly we both wanted to explore. If those two things aren't exactly equal with each person, there's gonna be issues no matter what. It's like, I don't care how therapized I am on any given Wednesday. I'm insecure, I'm wondering. I'm sad, I'm jealous. Like, those things don't, like, leave your body. Like, even if I can objectively be, like, I agreed to this, or I think this is what I want, we both decided this together. There's always gonna be some, like, level of. Of, like, unease about it, I think. And I mean, even with Jenna, like, I'm sure, you know, like, we've known her for so long. Like, they're back together in a closed relationship now, but during the open years, that was, like, painful.

[Esther Povitsky]

It was hard. Yeah.

[Brett]

Back and forth. Right. So it's hard for me to believe in a hetero relationship that, like, a truly open relationship can be, like, very, very, like, healthy and happy. And this is coming from, like, experience, I think that really does get murky and, like, sticky.

[Esther Povitsky]

I personally can't do it. Like, my brain can't handle it. I can. I give my all to one person. I can't, like, multitask emotionally.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

So I personally can't do it, but I totally get how it can work for some people.

[Brett]

Like, you know, polyamory. Like, it does work for some people where it's like, there's eight people in a relationship. Right.

[Kyla]

Faith.

[Brett]

And you're, like, eight years old.

[Leslie Liao]

They're like, dude, this person gotta talk about it all.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're texting.

[Leslie Liao]

There's so much talking.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are they all in a chain together? Maybe? Or they do that.

[Leslie Liao]

They do this thing called table. Table service or table side or. It's not table service. What is that? Right. But it's like, where you sit down at a table.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. Guacamole.

[Leslie Liao]

You sit down at a table and, like, you have to talk about your feelings always. Like, there's a lot of talking.

[Kyla]

That sounds like a concert.

[Brett]

Sounds so exhausting.

[Leslie Liao]

That sounds awful. I mean, you're just like, wait, how.

[Kyla]

Do you know about this? And why isn't that a reality show?

[Brett]

And, Kat, you never told us about your experience with it.

[Leslie Liao]

My experience? It's kind of, like, right now, actually. So I. So I. Currently, my. My husband and I. We split. Yeah. I'm single, but I'm kind of in, like, a few open relationships. But it's very fine for me because I don't want any type of relationship. Relationship, so. And I don't feel tied emotionally. But if I was in a different point in my life where I was like, maybe, you know, not coming out of a marriage, I think it would be more complicated because I'm just. I think we are humans. We feel these emotions. And if I, like, maybe. And when I. When I have sex with someone, no matter what, I feel tied to that person. I. I don't have that. Like, I wish I was like, a dude in a way where you're just like, you know, like, oh, I've just.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then I tried.

[Leslie Liao]

I've tr.

[Brett]

Me too.

[Leslie Liao]

I've really tried to be like, oh, the cool. Like, I'm just a cool Guy.

[Brett]

But there are those cool gals. Like, I have girls in my.

[Leslie Liao]

For everyone, really.

[Brett]

Girls in my very close circle. Like my. Some of my best friends where they will just have fun sex and like. Like, they're like, I never want to see that person again and leave it there. I'm like, I'm so sensitive. It's like, I have to know that he, like, liked what I had to say that. Like, he liked.

[Host]

Like, I.

[Brett]

Or else, like, I can't even get, like, horny, I guess, in a sense. Like, I can't, like, feel horny for someone who doesn't, like.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know. I. Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

I don't think they like me. Like, like, me, like me.

[Esther Povitsky]

I tried to be the cool in my 20s, like, hook up with someone and not care. But then every time I would hook up with a guy, I'd be like, why don't you want to hang out with me? Like, I'm so rad.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, what's wrong with you? And then I would be inside me. And then when they would text me, I would get excited. And that's like, okay, now it's over. Because now when they text me and I get, like, excited, you get your.

[Kyla]

Little dopamine hit so mad.

[Leslie Liao]

And then for someone just like that.

[Kyla]

Game that women and everybody gets addicted to, where you like a guy and he's fucking situation shipping, he's breadcrumbing you.

[Leslie Liao]

I was in one of those recently, and that guy sucks.

[Brett]

How did you eventually get out of thinking, like, I care about any morsel he throws my way?

[Leslie Liao]

I just got the ick from him. Event like that. That the. The ick. He, like, one time he, like, he tried to hold my hand, but he started, like, petting the inside of my hand and just. And he had, like, these weird fingers. I don't know. I get weird with fingers, like, if they're too feminine and like.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah, I get that.

[Leslie Liao]

Like, I like a guy that has.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, you know, chunky hand.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, that's, like, had, like, work. Like he's done work. Like lumber. Like, he's worked with lumber.

[Brett]

I gotta say that the ick is a gift from God to women because the relief I feel, it's our instinct is we're protecting. But imagine, like. Okay, so like, there's been situations where I'm like. Like I'm really in some type of, like, emotional turmoil over someone. And then one day I see, like, like a silhouette of their hips, and then I'm like.

[Leslie Liao]

And then I.

[Brett]

And then immediately, like, you. You can Never go back.

[Leslie Liao]

It's done.

[Brett]

It's almost like gun God gives you a direct answer. It's like, here you go.

[Esther Povitsky]

This isn't the right analogy, but it's like a skunk has the smell to protect us, so.

[Leslie Liao]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Or isn't it? I don't want to spread misinformation, but isn't it true?

[Leslie Liao]

Like, no.

[Esther Povitsky]

Everything I've said is right and true. Please. You post everything. But there's a gasoline. Is it true that the smell of gasoline is added. Yes, in order to protect us? Because I think it's actually odorless. Someone fact check me.

[Leslie Liao]

I love the smell of gasoline, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

Me, too. Yeah, that's why we're toxic. We go after the guys who smell like gasoline. I believe it's originally odorless, but obviously we shouldn't be interacting it in our bodies, ingesting it, whatever. So the smell is put in there to make us go, oh, oh, no, no, no. I have to stay with you.

[Brett]

So the reason I think that this is correct is because.

[Esther Povitsky]

Am I wrong?

[Brett]

That's snap.

[Esther Povitsky]

Awesome.

[Leslie Liao]

Wait, I was so into this, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, no, this.

[Brett]

This has to be true. Because I snapped at my partner because the gas range was on, and it was. I. The whole apartment smelled like gas, and I was like, oh, my God, we're all gonna die. We're gonna die. We're gonna die. And he was like, no, that's an added scent to warn you that the gas is on. But then now I should fight him again, because apparently that's not true. So that is the smell of Benzi.

[Leslie Liao]

I love it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I like the smell of gasoline.

[Leslie Liao]

I love it.

[Esther Povitsky]

But I think you're right. Like, the. The ick is a gift from the universe.

[Leslie Liao]

It's so good. It's like the opposite of oxytocin, which, like, connects us.

[Kyla]

It's like when you're playing a board game and you're losing and you get, like, that magic card that lets you get out of jail. That's like an ick.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's like saying, esther, don't be this person.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Get out of this game.

[Leslie Liao]

Should we say our icks, which would what. What they are?

[Kyla]

I have an anti ick for you.

[Leslie Liao]

Okay.

[Kyla]

I have a flex for you because you like hands. My husband has this autoimmune condition called, Tell me. Juvenile idiopathic arthritis. It's like the same thing as rheumatoid arthritis, but he gets mad when I call it that because it's more complicated, but so his hands are, like, kind of mangled and disfigured and it's so hot.

[Leslie Liao]

I love it.

[Kyla]

That's a great, like, the way that he talks. Like, he can't.

[Leslie Liao]

This is so up.

[Kyla]

Like, he can't move his wrist. And he's so insecure about him. Like, Dave, you don't understand.

[Leslie Liao]

Like, bring those hands to the room.

[Kyla]

Like, his hands are like this. I don't know. It's so hard.

[Esther Povitsky]

So when he talks, he. We all motion with our hands.

[Kyla]

He can't, like, do this physically, but.

[Brett]

You know how great it is. He doesn't need to do that because wrist on a man is nick.

[Kyla]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[Brett]

He's constantly like this. This is. This is a great thing, Dave.

[Esther Povitsky]

This is power. I'm displaying power.

[Kyla]

It's literally so hot. And he doesn't understand. I'm like, no.

[Leslie Liao]

I love it. So he's, like, trying to drink.

[Brett]

I mean, it's better than bouncing around like this.

[Kyla]

I know, right?

[Leslie Liao]

That's not homophobic.

[Brett]

Feels like sexuality aside, just generally on men and women, I'm not into the bouncing risk.

[Kyla]

I. I will never see my husband do this.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's people that, like, he gives a kid.

[Kyla]

That will never happen to me the way that.

[Esther Povitsky]

So lucky. You know, like how people run what they do with their hands. There's like, people next to me on a treadmill who literally run like this, and I just throw up and leave. I can't. I'm like, you can't do that.

[Leslie Liao]

I don't know what that's about.

[Esther Povitsky]

It has to be your hands. I'm not a pro. You can fact check me. It has to be a rhythm, and your hands have to be up, and you shouldn't make a fist, but it shouldn't be.

[Brett]

So.

[Esther Povitsky]

So when you're running, like, you don't want to do this, right?

[Brett]

I just want to.

[Leslie Liao]

You also don't need this. This feels like crazy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, Now I'm scared. This cuts through the air faster if you make your hands thinner. Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

This reminds me of a Terminator. You remember the. The, like the metal guy?

[Esther Povitsky]

Why did he run so fast? Because he kept it fucking slick. Yeah, he got to be slick with it.

[Brett]

Well, this is a very sore subject for a 1 Ms. Esther Povitsky over here. Because running is hard for you.

[Kyla]

Oh, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I like running.

[Kyla]

Right? Running.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's okay to not.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

He never run, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

You'd never allow it.

[Kyla]

I would never run.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Running isn't for everyone, but it's.

[Brett]

I think it's fun and Also like your knees, you cannot even be at an angle. Right. Running is like upright. Apparently. I've been looking into the mechanics of running because I'm pigeon toed. So like my knees like it's just, it's a funny, it's a funny look. But I always thought running was like launching forward and apparently it's this upright motion.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it's about like the steps and the pace of your steps. Like your steps have to be correct quicker and I think it's not. I think.

[Kyla]

Are you supposed to run up?

[Brett]

Yeah, like knees up.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm scared.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

And you also have to have tiny little shorts.

[Brett]

Tiny little shorts. That's with like. No.

[Leslie Liao]

Cuz all the guys.

[Esther Povitsky]

It'll bunch up into your crotch.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, but none of the guys have underwear when they. Have you noticed free balling out there?

[Esther Povitsky]

They have what in there?

[Kyla]

They have little crotches on the shorts.

[Leslie Liao]

Oh, okay. Cuz I'm like. I don't think there's anything.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm actually garden fascinated with. With what happens to a man's crotch during the run.

[Brett]

I think it just. Well, I think because it vaso. The rest of your body vasodilates and it pulls the blood away from when your blood vessels expand.

[Leslie Liao]

Smell it.

[Esther Povitsky]

V A S. Really?

[Brett]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can you say the word again?

[Brett]

Vasodilate.

[Esther Povitsky]

V A S O D I A L. Flip it.

[Brett]

What? D I L A T E. It's not dilate, it's dial.

[Esther Povitsky]

My God, you're right.

[Kyla]

I was with you. You have a spike champion on your side.

[Brett]

You're thinking dialysis now you're thinking dialysis.

[Esther Povitsky]

I am, I am. Which is. Which is dial like the. Hello.

[Brett]

But I think that what happens, correct me if I'm wrong men, because I don't have balls myself that your blood goes to the. Your peripheral. Everywhere else but your balls, guys. So like your balls actually stay high and tight with the. You run and they don't like just you know, jingle.

[Esther Povitsky]

Explain how your balls work to us, please.

[Leslie Liao]

That's why when you stop running you get super horny. Cuz all the blood goes to your balls again.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is that true?

[Leslie Liao]

We slow down and all the balls go.

[Esther Povitsky]

All the ball. All two of them? All of them.

[Brett]

Wait, what is it? We're not even letting the man speak.

[Leslie Liao]

I haven't measured but I feel like you've got to be right because there's not a lot of like sway in or right on hitting against your leg or anything like that.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're just pretty stationary.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, you never see balls swinging around up There.

[Brett]

I just don't think. I think that God thought this through because he favors men, and I know he would never let a man carry, like, big, heavy balls on a rock.

[Esther Povitsky]

He makes it convenient for him to run for his.

[Brett]

But for us, the balls go up.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

I wish our labias did that. Wouldn't that be fun? If they just like.

[Brett]

I think that they do because technically, your labia is the same skin as a ball sack.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. So they. Oh, so you think they go up there? Because I have big labia, so I.

[Brett]

Feel like you have to, like, do the tuck in sometimes.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Kyla]

I just can't do the ball sack. I gotta go.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no. Yeah, let's not do that.

[Brett]

Yeah, no more.

[Esther Povitsky]

We didn't help. We didn't help the girl we went right into. How did we. When you run, fellas, literally, she's like, my marriage is falling apart. Like. So when guys run, it's, like, really tight down there. Right?

[Brett]

You're right.

[Esther Povitsky]

So here's a solution. The four of us will fuck your husband this fall. Circus coming to you this fall.

[Brett]

Butternutting to you this fall.

[Leslie Liao]

We're going to circus.

[Esther Povitsky]

We will show him that he's better off with you. We will. The four of us.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. Fuck this guy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Give him an honest.

[Leslie Liao]

But this guy's. I mean, he said, no, no, no. I'm sure your husband's a nice guy, but you got it.

[Kyla]

I mean, he.

[Leslie Liao]

I bet you. I bet she's really pretty. I almost should go out there and do her own thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

He's being honest.

[Kyla]

Maybe there's ways that you can, like, role play or. I don't know, maybe there's creative ways.

[Brett]

No, I think that there's. I hate this. Like, I'm being honest, so I might. I'm. I'm correct. I think that there's people who are so cruel with their honesty. They. They trick you by thinking their honesty is somehow this, like, superior. Like, it's not. It's like, I know where it's like, you know, the radically honest people, but what's his alternative?

[Esther Povitsky]

So it's his alternative is. Keeps this feeling inside.

[Brett]

No, no, I think that it's right that he is expressing it and, like, honking the horn and saying, hey, this is how I feel. But I really think he needs to. That's his wife. That's something that. That's a commitment. He also needs to honor how she feels. And if she's like, hey, I'm not ready. I'm not that there yet. He should listen to her.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think she needs to honor how she feels.

[Leslie Liao]

Totally.

[Esther Povitsky]

Because she should not listen to us anyways. Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah. I don't know. Definitely not me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, not me.

[Brett]

Don't beg, though. Don't beg him to stay. Don't beg him not to stay.

[Leslie Liao]

The power I feel, there's just, like. There's a power dynamic.

[Kyla]

Okay, wait. A little bit of a topic switch, but just you saying, like, the honest friend. It's so weird to me because I have seen that and experienced that. This is a. I'm like. I feel like I'm so stupid for thinking this is a huge surprise, but, like, the person who's like, I just am always honest and I have to be honest. I'm like, why is that the person that's lying?

[Brett]

Red flag, red flag, red flag. As soon as someone is like, I'm.

[Kyla]

A truth teller, it's like.

[Brett]

It's like, but you're lying. Did you just.

[Kyla]

I know you're lying.

[Brett]

So what?

[Leslie Liao]

So you're the.

[Kyla]

It's like such a.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're thinking of a specific person right now, and I love this, but I.

[Brett]

Think we all have that one specific person in our lives who just thinks they're. They're so high and mighty.

[Leslie Liao]

Yes.

[Brett]

Because they are operating from a place of radical honesty. And it's like, no, you're just a cruel. I didn't ask for your unwarranted advice or opinion. You're just launching them at me, and I don't want to hear it.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I hate. I hate that shit.

[Esther Povitsky]

Those people make good, like, reaction reality.

[Brett]

Stars, but not good friends.

[Kyla]

Great reality stars.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. Yes. I tell it like it is.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

It kind of hurts my feelings.

[Leslie Liao]

You know when someone says, cut your hair. Yeah. When someone's like, I'm not the one. You know what I mean? They're like, I'm not the. I feel like I am the one.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's the one, though? What is the one?

[Leslie Liao]

Because, like, people say, like, I'm not the one when they're like.

[Brett]

Like, you're. You're not mess with. Don't mess with me. Yeah, I'm not the one you're gonna mess with.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I've said that. Yeah, I feel like I've said that. I.

[Leslie Liao]

That I feel like you are you. I think everyone here is. I'm not the one, but I think I am the one.

[Esther Povitsky]

You are the one to.

[Brett]

With.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Leslie Liao]

I'm the one that's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. You can come with me.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'll take It.

[Leslie Liao]

I'll take it. Yeah, totally.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. Like, because you're not a big confrontation.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, no.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which I get. But also, like, it's. It's normal to not love confrontation, right? Like, healthy, totally normal.

[Brett]

I don't think I know myself in that way. I always say that I'm a people pleaser and that I don't love confrontation. But I think there have been many examples in my life the past couple years where I actually. I was talking in therapy and my therapist was like, no, you're the enforcer. Like, you are a people pleaser, but up to a point when you feel, like, genuinely wrong, like, you have no problems telling someone, like, hey, this is not okay, and I don't like that. And like, fuck you. But it takes me a long time to get there.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Brett]

Yeah. Because I can't in real time tell them, like, fuck you. I need, like, process same time. So it's like two weeks.

[Leslie Liao]

You ever do that on accident where you, like, tell someone how you're doing in real time and it's a total mess.

[Brett]

It's a mess.

[Leslie Liao]

It's a mess. You're like. You're like, cry. You start crying.

[Brett]

Then you're just embarrassed. You spend the whole night, like, why did I say it like this?

[Leslie Liao]

Thought that through a little bit.

[Brett]

I hate that feeling.

[Kyla]

All right, guys, on that note, we can spell. Some of us.

[Brett]

Some of us.

[Esther Povitsky]

A L, I, L, F A, I.

[Kyla]

I've had so much fun today. Are you guys on tour? What's going on? Where can we see you?

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm kind of on tour always. Yeah, I'm everywhere online. I'm resre. Real, basically. I'm. I'm on. I'm online. I'm on the Internet.

[Leslie Liao]

She's touring online. You'll see her. And I have two. I'm. I'm torn. Torn online. Cat. Catbird Comedy. That's where you can find me. I also can. I say I have a new podcast coming up.

[Kyla]

You too?

[Leslie Liao]

Yes. It's called side Boob Pod.

[Brett]

I love the name.

[Leslie Liao]

And it's with my. One of my best friends, Mikey McDonald, and we're just talking about dumb stuff on there. We don't really. It's. It's fun. You should watch it.

[Brett]

By the way, Side boob has been my only titty flex my whole life. When you have small boobs.

[Leslie Liao]

Side boobs.

[Brett]

The best Side boob is the best.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah, Everyone loves a side boob, you know, it's just a good boob.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't even think I have a lot. That's.

[Brett]

It's okay. You just have to wear really cut in shirts. All the way in.

[Esther Povitsky]

All the way to my nipple. That's a boob. I see it. I see it now. There's no defining. Yeah, it just looks like a chest. Like it doesn't look like. Anyways.

[Leslie Liao]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's exciting.

[Leslie Liao]

Thank you so much. Congrats.

[Kyla]

I'm on tour this fall. I'll be in Philly, Boston, New York. I think I'm about to be in Portland and Seattle and Denver. You can get tickets@pretty littlebaby tour.com Kila has a hair care brand.

[Brett]

I do evolution club.com and on Instagram @ E. Ocean Club. And we are coming to a retailer near you very soon. So watch out for that.

[Kyla]

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