Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: LESLIE LIAO & KAT BIRD All Out In Vegas
Date: September 23, 2025
Guests: Leslie Liao, Kat Bird

Episode Overview

This episode is a raucous, candid, and hilarious hangout with comedians Leslie Liao and Kat Bird. The crew dives into their wildest Vegas memories, body image journeys, relationships (including open relationships), petty friend sabotage, and plays a delightfully chaotic fall-themed spelling bee. The conversation is packed with playful shade, self-deprecating comedy, and genuine takes on modern womanhood, friendship, and growing up—delivered in their quintessential unfiltered “hot girl trash” tone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vegas, Baby! – Wild YA Memories and Growing Up

Timestamps: 03:06, 27:47, 32:20

• Leslie & the group reminisce on their riotous “Ratchet Era” Vegas days: comped rooms at Circus Circus, promoter gigs, clubbing, pool parties, and hooking up.
• The difference between doing Vegas in your 20s (living on free vodka and hope) vs. 30s (“adult-style”—cabanas, sushi, paying for privacy).
• Esther shares her pride about now being able to “pay to have people off my property” (29:00), contrasting her new Republican-in-Vegas energy with youthful scrapping.
• Notable Quote:

  “We’d go to a pool party with no table, no ticket. We just be hot girls and just be. Be spotted, be ushered into a table. ... In our 30s, we got our own cabana, front row cabana for the DJ, ordered sushi, caviar. There were like, 22-year-olds trying to even stand near our cabana.”
  — Esther Povitsky (28:25)

2. The Realities of Body Changes, Implants & Areola Discourse

Timestamps: 19:24, 21:05, 21:53

• Khalyla shares her journey from double-D breast implants to removal, pregnancy boobs, and dealing with changing areolas post-breastfeeding.
• The group candidly weighs the pros and cons of “mom” surgeries and pressures, landing firmly on self-acceptance and doing things only for yourself.
• Notable Quote:

  “I have to really ask myself, like, who am I doing it for? What am I doing it for? Because...my partner’s not leaving me. ... If I start to look in the mirror and it’s really bringing me down, maybe I’ll consider it. But only for me.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (21:22)

3. Friend Competitiveness, Sabotage & Petty Beauty Advice

Timestamps: 16:09, 16:56, 17:05

• A debate on whether female friends who advise you to “cut your hair short” are secretly sabotaging you—a “study” Khalyla jokes about, calling out fake science.
• The dangers of listening to mean girl beauty conspiracies: from high school lash scams to competitive moms.
• The conclusion: Don’t listen to unsolicited makeover tips from frenemies.
• Notable Moment:

  “I read a study, but my... Mom always wanted to have my hair cut short.”
  — Leslie Liao (16:43)
  "She told my friend if you cut your lashes, they’ll grow double. She should be in jail."
  — Esther Povitsky (17:27)

4. Dating Preferences, Spotters, and the "Performative Male"

Timestamps: 25:01, 26:36

• The panel swaps tales of club “spotters” (guys picking women out of crowds), what they’d want in a spotter (“401K success!”), and quirks about teeth.
• Khalyla rants about "performative male feminists"—guys who posture as allies for optics or to get girls, but are secretly jerks.
• Notable Quote:

  “The performative male…He’s a feminist, but it’s for show. Deep down, he will verbally abuse you.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (26:54)

5. The Open Relationship Question

Timestamps: 60:31, 61:04, 61:37

• Listener asks for advice: Husband wants to open their relationship; he’s never slept with anyone else.
• Panel shares honest, vulnerable thoughts:
  • Leslie advocates openness ("If you love something, let it go"), but only if you actually want it.
  • Khalyla warns: Don’t pretend to be ok—open relationships don’t work if both people aren’t 100%. Jealousy and insecurity don’t just go away with therapy.
  • Esther dramatically: “It’s already done. He voiced it’s open. If she doesn’t want it...it’s done.”
  • All agree: Take it to a couples’ counselor.
• Notable Quotes:

  “If you don’t want it, you cannot pretend that you’re playing.”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (61:37)
  "It's already done. He voiced—it's open. ... You can't make that person want to stay in that relationship if they want something else."
  — Esther Povitsky (61:51) "I personally can't do it—my brain can't handle it. I give my all to one person, I can't multitask emotionally."
  — Esther Povitsky (65:12)

6. Viral Myths, Influencers, and Spreading Misinformation

Timestamps: 07:47, 08:03

• The group jokes about Lululemon being “named to be hard for Asians to pronounce” and the (fake) news that “Lululemon leggings cause vagina cancer.”
• They collectively roast themselves for falling for IG memes and AI-generated misinformation.
• Notable Moment:

  “I’m spreading misinformation. I want us to really go for it: Lulu causes cancer.”
  — Esther Povitsky (08:20)

7. Fall-Themed Spelling Bee & Cozy Vibes

Timestamps: 48:29–58:10

• A spelling bee with words like “butternut,” “pumpkin,” “autumn,” “cornucopia,” “chrysanthemum,” “macchiato.”
• Lots of heckling, support, and accidental cheating (calling out hints and pronunciation tips!).
• Hilarious self-awareness about how “reading the word” is way easier than spelling out loud (“reader’s ego”).
• Notable Quote:

  “We should do a book club of, like, YouTube summaries of books.”
  — Esther Povitsky (53:33)

8. The Power of the 'Ick' and Bad Dates

Timestamps: 67:48, 68:13

• The group delves into the “ick”—the sudden, visceral loss of attraction—on dates: from a guy petting the inside of their hand with “weird fingers,” to spotting awkward hips or hand movements.
• Celebrating the “ick” as a biological gift (just like the smell added to gasoline, per Esther’s analogy) that gets women out of bad situations.
• Notable Quotes:

  “The ick is a gift from God to women because…the relief I feel, it’s our instinct, we’re protecting...”
  — Khalyla Kuhn (69:09)
  “It’s like when you’re playing a board game and you get that magic card that lets you get out of jail—that’s like an ick.”
  — Kyla (71:01)

9. Hands, Labias, and Running Mechanics

Timestamps: 71:10–76:31

• Tangent about hand preferences, running form, and anatomical differences—gleefully devolving into speculation about balls and labia during exercise.
• Notable Moment:

  “I wish our labias did that. Wouldn’t that be fun, if they just like—”
  — Leslie Liao (76:06)

10. Confrontation Styles, Radical Honesty, and People Pleasing

Timestamps: 78:55–80:48

• Reflection on confrontation styles: being a people pleaser, timing, and how so-called “radically honest” types are often just rude (and probably lying).
• Notable Quotes:

  “As soon as someone is like, ‘I’m a truth teller’, it’s like…but you’re lying.”
  — Brett (78:43)
  “We all have that one in our life who thinks they’re so high and mighty…No, you’re just a cruel b****. I didn’t ask.”
  — Khalyla (79:05)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 28:25 | Esther Povitsky | “In our 30s, we got our own cabana, front row cabana for the DJ... caviar... 22-year-olds trying to even stand near our cabana.” | | 19:55 | Khalyla | “My areolas—dinner plates. Dinner plates.” | | 21:22 | Khalyla | “Who am I doing it for? Because... going under anesthesia, going under some… I hated it.” | | 26:54 | Khalyla | "The performative male—He’s a feminist, but it’s for show... deep down, he will verbally abuse you."| | 61:37 | Khalyla | “If you don’t want it, you need to just not pretend that you want it. You cannot pretend that you're playing.” | | 69:09 | Khalyla | “The ick is a gift from God to women because the relief I feel… it’s our instinct, we're protecting.”| | 71:01 | Kyla | “It's like when you're playing a board game and you get that magic card that lets you get out of jail—that's like an ick.” | | 78:43 | Brett | “As soon as someone is like, ‘I’m a truth teller,’ it’s like… but you’re lying.” |

Fun & Format

• Tone: Irreverent, sarcastic, confessional.
• Group Dynamic: Encouraging, self-roasting, free-associative banter.
• Games: Fall-themed spelling bee with plenty of comedic derailment and “reader’s ego” jokes.
• Advice: Candid and non-judgmental, but always with a comedic, sometimes fatalistic edge.

Where to Find the Guests

• Leslie Liao:
  Touring, Instagram: @resreriel, New podcast: Side Boob Pod
• Kat Bird:
  Standup dates available online, @catbirdcomedy

Summary

If you crave a podcast that feels like eavesdropping on your funniest, realest friends—who aren’t afraid to call each other (and themselves) out, dissect excruciating details of womanhood, and clown on their younger selves—this is peak Trash Tuesday. Vegas stories, body talk, open relationship realness, the “ick,” cult beauty rumors, and fall spelling bee shenanigans—this episode packs the absurd and the relatable in equal measure. Hot takes, big laughs, and even bigger sides of honesty and support.