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Mandy
The smell matches the name.
Weezy
It does? Yeah. It's like Yuzu Shiso. Asian.
Mandy
I'm Asian.
Weezy
You are Mandy.
Kyla
Yeah. I tell everyone because I like sushi so much. Japanese.
Weezy
Oh, Stella.
Kyla
You know, because that's what sushi is from.
Weezy
In case you didn't know.
Kyla
Well, also, I lived in Singapore for six months, so I saw Southeast Asian.
Weezy
No, wait, we got to talk about Singapore.
Kyla
Oh, you. Oh, yeah, let's do it.
Weezy
Because I was born, raised in Southeast Asia.
Kyla
Oh, shut the fuck.
Weezy
I'm Filipino, girl.
Kyla
That's like my second home.
Weezy
But we're really poor compared to Singapore.
Kyla
Oh, no. Singapore is like the Europe of Asia.
Weezy
Filipino.
Kyla
Yeah, I loved Singapore. Was nice.
Mandy
I feel like LA is the Philippines. No, it is the Bay, Louisiana. Like any black girl I know that got a little bit of a slit.
Kyla
They mix like every time.
Mandy
Like my mom is. Yeah, I know.
Weezy
We know.
Esther
Kyla, will you introduce our guest?
Weezy
Of course.
Mandy
Oh, my God. It was going.
Kyla
Hi, slugs.
Esther
It's your girl with a mouthful of raisins and walnuts here to tell you I have a standup show in LA, Friday, June 27, at the Comedy Store. You can get tickets at the link below. I'll see you there.
Mandy
It's.
Esther
It's been real. Well, we have a Patreon and it is, I'll say it, it's popping off.
Weezy
And it's juicy, juicy, juicy.
Esther
And we have full episodes there. We're talking current events, pop culture, all the stuff we don't get to on the full episodes. And our Patreon is growing and we love our patron slugs. You guys can join and get instant access to all the backlog episodes. So if you want to have like a little binge and then a new thing every week, you can go to patreon.com trashtuesdaypodcast or click the link below and shout out to our golden slugs, Brandon and Thomas.
Weezy
And if you're a hater, we also have a hater tier. Oh, yeah, Just for you. You guys, I can't even begin to tell you how long we've been trying to make this work.
Mandy
I know.
Weezy
Um, and so I'm super excited to have funny girls, perts, hot New York girlies, podcast queens, writers, they've been on hbo, bet, Viceland, our friends Mandy and Weezy from Decisions Decisions.
Mandy
Tim, that was good. They were like, we know she there on bet. Surprisingly, that was not the first channel we were on.
Kyla
Yeah, no, it was hbo. That was the first one we did TV wise.
Mandy
Oh, I thought it was Vice we.
Kyla
Did Vice on hbo.
Mandy
Oh, that's right.
Kyla
And then we did Vice land.
Weezy
Vice got weird.
Kyla
Vice got broke.
Weezy
Yeah, Got super broke.
Kyla
Vice went bankrupt. That was a channel woman was flying the male talent in her PJs playing with. Apparently you didn't. Zack Fox came out and said it.
Weezy
Wait, so. Because my. My friend, my.
Kyla
You didn't hear the tea. My bad.
Mandy
We are starting this episode.
Weezy
No. So no, my friend is Eddie Wong. Oh, okay. And so he wrote this whole thing about Vice is broke. And I was like, oh, because he used to be like, Vice golden boy, right?
Kyla
Well, no, that was Za's Amaro.
Weezy
Oh, that is true. Yes. You're right. You're right.
Kyla
You know.
Weezy
Yes.
Kyla
And then they left to showtime.
Mandy
Action Bronson was on Vice too. Right.
Kyla
So it was two chains and they lost two gq, ended up picking up his show.
Weezy
Crazy.
Mandy
Yeah.
Weezy
A lot of stars came out of Vice, though.
Kyla
Yeah. We were actually supposed to like, make a show with them.
Mandy
And wasn't it.
Kyla
The budget was. Oh, hold on. With no glam. With no. It was bad.
Esther
No glam.
Kyla
This was before they announced they were.
Mandy
Going even a YouTube. And we're like, considering the shit. Like, should we just do it for the exposure?
Kyla
Because, yeah, this was like 2018, 2019.
Weezy
I don't blame you because the idea of being on Vice is so cool.
Kyla
And my mom just wanted the mug. Like, my mom was obsessed with Vice.
Mandy
It's interesting you just said it's so cool. I was having a conversation. I have a TV show at Fuse, and we were talking about brands known for being cool, but that don't make moves. And one of the guys was like, yeah, like, think about Vice. When someone's talking about Vice, you think not only tv, but you're like, oh, media cool. Documentary, documentary. You're thinking, article. Like, they were really cool.
Esther
And you also know the style right away.
Mandy
They fucking really that up.
Kyla
You know who else it up? And I could say I love them because I've worked with them. I ended up hosting a dating show on mtv. And MTV is like what I grew up on. I was just like, oh, my God, it's mtv. The logo was behind me. I said, yes. And now they. They. They're literally one of the networks that of course got sucked into the whole thing. Paramount, Viacom, Umbrella. But they weren't able to keep up digitally. And then I was like, wait, what about Room Raiders and all the shows we loved?
Mandy
They had digital content. Girl Code felt digital on tv. It did.
Weezy
It really did.
Kyla
The. The crazy thing about what? MTV and how they. I guess, with licensing now, streaming and all the things. So this is what I heard. All of the shows back in the day, like the 90s and early 2000s on MTV, when they made the shows. Y' all remember how they used to, like, everything had music. Well, no one edited it with the stems to remove the music. And so now the cost to put those shows on any of the streaming platforms would be so much because you have to pay for the licensing of all those songs. And it's like fucking Blink 182, probably. Beyonce. Beyonce don't let her music go anywhere.
Weezy
Right?
Kyla
So those shows can't go anywhere because it would be so expensive to put them on.
Weezy
Yeah, well, you know, little Esther almost had a reality show on mtv.
Kyla
Oh, wait, I need to know. What was this?
Mandy
Wait, can I guess what it was?
Esther
Yeah, yeah.
Mandy
I feel like it wasn't dating, was it?
Esther
No, it wasn't dating.
Mandy
Okay. Was it something with, like, friendship?
Esther
Yeah. Wait, that's so sad.
Mandy
No, no, no, I just meant, like, I felt like you give me, like. I don't know, I could just see you on a reality TV show doing shit. Fun with friends.
Esther
That's what it was. Yeah, it was literally. So it was about me, like, being a stand up comedian and like my. My friend group, we did like two pilots, and then, like, the head of the network got fired.
Mandy
And it didn't end up going, damn. I did a pilot for MTV2. It was for a show that was called Ghosted. And it was something that, like, burned me, but I never forget it. Alex was actually the person that got me over my depression. So they flew me out to la. I did this pilot for a show that was like Catfish, but when you get ghosted, so you got to go find the person that ghosted you.
Esther
Oh, my God.
Mandy
And I was like, damn, this is gonna be fun.
Kyla
I'd be mad as hell if I go to State of the. If you pop up, I'm gonna be like, now you embarrassing yourself.
Mandy
Cause you know why I liked it? I was like, oh, this is kind of like cheaters. And cheaters was my. Yeah, yeah, go in the house and find that bitch. And that's what I wanted to do. So they ended up going with Draya from Basketball.
Weezy
Oh, Drea. Yeah.
Mandy
And the show never came out. I was so depressed. I was like, saying to one of the casting people, why? What does she do? So I know for next time. They said, actually, everyone liked you better. They just wanted someone with more followers.
Weezy
Oh, God.
Mandy
And I Remember crying? And I was like, damn. Well, I never get there. And Alex was like, you'll have a TV show by the end of the year. You'll be fine. And I did, and it was my own. And it's still going. And that one never came out. And it's crazy because you look at these names of these networks like they're God. When in reality, Tubi's making hella bread. Like, are they?
Kyla
I thought, girl, we just got flew there by two weeks. They had a little check.
Weezy
They do glam.
Kyla
They paid enough to the honorarium, covered enough for glam.
Mandy
We had first class, first class flights.
Kyla
What rooms? Oh, and they gave us a flight for a guest. So I flew my boyfriend in with me.
Mandy
Oh, they forgot about the guest flight.
Kyla
Oh, yeah, we had a whole extra guest flight. We had a suite transportation. I was like, oh, what's up, Tubi?
Mandy
Hey, Tubi Black heart. I don't know if y' all know this about Tubi. I don't wanna say this.
Kyla
Respectfully, don't say it. Cause I wanna work with 2B.
Mandy
No, no, no. I'm being so serious. Okay. So I thought it was just like hood movies, you know what I'm saying?
Kyla
No, it's not.
Mandy
And then I was hanging out with one of my white friends and she's like, oh my God, let's see what's on Tubi. And I'm like, you watch Tubi? And then she was watching like Santa Claus, like old episodes of Paris and Nicole. And I was like, hold on, Paris.
Weezy
And Nicole is on Tubi?
Kyla
When I say Simple Life, is it Simple Life? The thing about Tubi, they're like this channel that has also like streamed and partnered with mad other channels. So I forgot what the what the name is called, but there's something now to where a show can be streamed not only on Tubi, but there's like 6 to 10 other like independent quote unquote apps. And they're all like a universe. But mad stuff is on Tubi.
Mandy
That what she's saying. So my show is on Fuse. That's who produces the show. But you can get it on Prime, Roku, and probably Tubi. So basically, Tubi just has everything. And I'm sitting here thinking Tubi only makes ghetto movies. And I was like, oh, so there's a stripper tale and also high production. Yeah, it's crazy.
Kyla
I love it.
Weezy
Wait, I want to get back to the ghosted show. What is considered ghosting? Because for me, ghosting is totally appropriate.
Kyla
Me too, girl. I Don't look. She said.
Mandy
I think she's like, I need you.
Kyla
To tell me to my face. Was it 1, 2.
Weezy
Like, I reserve the right to be like, you know what? I don't want to explain to you why I don't like you. I could just, like, fuck off.
Esther
But it so depends on, like, what came before the ghosting, because let's say we had, like, six great months to you.
Weezy
That's not ghosting to you.
Mandy
Wait, that is, though. That's a thing. Six months that people do that and do that. What are you thinking?
Weezy
Like, I'm thinking, like, a date or two.
Mandy
Oh, girl. No. That don't count.
Esther
Yeah, you don't even have to put.
Mandy
Your dick in me. If your dick was in me, you need to tell me why you don't want this again and don't like and that to me.
Kyla
I could have had my face in your ass. Don't want it there anymore. Don't have to tell you why I don't want your ass in my face anymore.
Mandy
Okay, no.
Kyla
Tongue could be in the hole. I don't have to explain to you.
Weezy
Could you at least honk the horn and be like, hey, this is over, without giving an explanation.
Kyla
Ghosting is no explanation, guys.
Mandy
People are just pushy for more. Yeah, I tried that once, and then I wish I ghosted.
Weezy
Sorry. He's really just anxious today.
Mandy
It's okay.
Kyla
I ain't gonna hold y' all. Shout out to all three of y' all. With these dogs, y' all may as well push a human being out your coochie. This is why I have a cat. He had the house, sleep, got his litter box. Food is spread out, water fountain going. He good?
Mandy
No, no, no, no. When people ask me, how old is she? I'd be like, well, I had her in 2021, May. And then people are, like, still confused. I'm like, yeah, 12 hours of labor. I don't give a fuck. That is my child.
Kyla
I'm someone that doesn't want kids at all. And the reaction for me from men is, well, then you're wasting your time here on Earth because you're supposed to be bringing life to this earth.
Mandy
The reception and the perception of Mandy, I think when she talks about not wanting kids, I don't even like. It puts us, like, at this weird thing.
Kyla
It's so, like, when I hear them on a plane, when are they making the childless flights? I'm paying a couple more dollars. Like, moms would too. Even if they don't, like, make noise, then they're just like in the back of your seat and I just feel them and I'm just like. Like, I. When I walk into stores, it's just like, why are they here? Like, don't they have to be in school? I'm confused why they're never like, why are they around? Like, we were talking about when I was like, living in Asia and I went to Bali and I was like, why are there kids here? Like, people brought their kids to Bali, they're not going to remember it. Like, why is there a two year old in my pool?
Weezy
You know, it's funny is that of all the places to take a baby, it's Southeast Asia. Because everyone loves babies there. And then they ever. It's so communal. So if you ever have a baby, travel to Southeast Asia, they will take your baby for you. They'll walk that baby around, they'll babysit. It's like, it's so as opposed to here.
Mandy
My. My partner is Nigerian. He's like, first of all, I have 100 cousins. We're never getting a babysitter. I'm like, we never getting a babysitter.
Kyla
You want a nanny, girl, I know you want an au pair.
Mandy
Honey, you know I'm one that can.
Kyla
Also maybe suck your man's dick from time to time.
Mandy
No, no, no. I want too ugly and I mean cute nanny. Like hot nannies that, like, we go out on date night and then we come home and she's like, what you guys do?
Weezy
Well, you would. We're very anti hot nanny. Yeah, I will never.
Kyla
Y' all are anti.
Mandy
Oh, I want to fuck the nanny. Sorry, Esther. But then I want an ugly nanny for when I need to go work so she could supervise when my man is too tired.
Kyla
Like, you having a hot and ugly.
Mandy
Nanny, they're going to know. Also, can we talk about nanny ethnicity and why it's important? Yeah, Caribbean nanny. I need that Caribbean nanny. In your fundamental years. Okay, so basically, what's in my head, right? Caribbean nanny is like, right when my kids at school and someone starts saying and they're learning bad words, I need that Caribbean nanny. Like, I want you. I don't want you to beat them. Beat them. But give them a little something. Then I want a really nice, like, not. There's two types of Latino nannies, right? You've got the one that's hardcore and the one that's super soft. Anything you want get you. Get your kid fat. I need that one right at the ages of like 0 to 1, then I kind of want, like, The Russian cunty, bitchy nanny. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
Weezy
I had one of those. And let me tell you, that's a source of my, like, trauma.
Mandy
Ooh.
Weezy
The way she, this bitch fed me carrots. Wait, like, I'm scared of carrots.
Kyla
Why she gave you carrots?
Weezy
Because she made chop suey and she didn't cook it right. And she would just like jam it in my mouth and I would puke and she would jam more issues.
Kyla
That sounds like a king.
Weezy
Her name is Maribel.
Mandy
Oh, scary bitch name. I thought for the Russian. Any, but okay, I was thinking Maribel. That's what I want. Zero to two. But yeah, like, I, you know, living in New York, you see especially Upper east side, any wealthy neighborhood, you are going to see a black woman and a baby or a woman that speaks Spanish with a tiny little white baby. Like, you're just gonna see it like go to a park in the day. Oh, my God. United nations, baby. Like, that's nanny land.
Kyla
I love talking about this. Cause I'll never have to worry about it. Like, I literally, like one of the chapters in the book, I talk about my abortion. And in talking about it, I was like, hey, it was just a dot. A part of like having. Having an abortion. Like, there's these narratives that, oh, my God. You live with the regret and the, the guilt for your whole life. Haven't thought about it till writing the book. Honestly, like, I feel like my whole life would have been different had I had a kid at 16 years old.
Weezy
I absolutely agree with you. So I am very open about the multiple abortions I've had. Initially when I was 19 and then later on when I was in a long term relationship.
Kyla
Oh, wow. Even most people don't talk about those.
Mandy
I love that talk while married and in a long term relationship.
Weezy
Yeah, I mean, I was with Bobby Lee for a decade. You know, we were financially able to support a child. There was all the things that maybe from a distance you would be like, okay, that makes sense. She's pregnant. Why not have the kid? I just, number one, there's multiple. There's many layers to it. Right. Number one, I wasn't ready. I was going through a heart condition. And like, there was a lot of things, like relationally that that was just not adding up for me and I just didn't feel ready. And I think that there is, there's. You're right. There's a perception that. Oh, like I absolutely regret not. I have a baby now.
Kyla
Yeah.
Weezy
And I still think those Were correct decisions for myself.
Kyla
I love that.
Weezy
And I, I, I don't like, I. Of course there's always a wondering. Now that I have a baby, I'm like, oh, shoot. Like, I would have had an 11 year old or this and that.
Mandy
There's.
Weezy
But I just know for a fact that when it happened, I felt sure. And the only mistake I ever made was raw dogging the abortion. By that, I mean I didn't take I. Because I was really afraid of like my heart condition at this time. I. Yeah, I did not, I did not take anything. They, you know, you can opt for like a twilight abortion where you get some type of like relief sedative or sedative, whatever.
Kyla
I got that.
Weezy
I was like, I was like, how long is it gonna last? They were like, at most, the vacuum. One minute.
Kyla
Yeah.
Weezy
I'm like, okay, I'll white knuckle it. Oh, my goodness.
Kyla
You white knuckled the vacuum.
Weezy
Yeah, I did. I did.
Esther
What was that?
Weezy
Like, super painful. And the fucked up part was the girl who went before me because I was at Planned Parenthood. Same the girl who went before me. I was like, hey, like, I don't think we need a sedative. She's like, are you sure? I'm like, yeah, we're fine. She saw me in the recovery room afterwards and she like seared holes into my forehead. She's like, what the fuck was that crazy for?
Kyla
That did the doctors. So I write about it because I was young. I don't know if you experienced this at Planned Parenthood. I talk about like, you have this image of as you're walking in to get an abortion, that there's gonna be all of these sea of people with picket signs calling you a killer. That wasn't the case. However, there's one or two.
Weezy
There's always one or two.
Kyla
Mine didn't have any, but when I went in, I remember as I was going back, this was already a conversation I had with my mom, with myself. They sat there before doing the procedure, trying to convince me that the decision I was making was wrong.
Weezy
No way.
Kyla
Yes. And I was so, like, at Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood. This was in Atlanta, Georgia, though.
Weezy
So I'm sure they were conservative.
Mandy
Bitch.
Kyla
But literally they were trying to convince me, like, are you sure you want to do this? And I remember, like. And I wrote about it because that was like a vivid memory of mine. Like, how dare you, Bitch, Bitch, I'm coming here. Like, as they showed me the sonogram of the dot, they're like, this is, it's a dot. What you want me to do. Like, they tried to make me connect to this thing that I. This decision that I had already made. And it was.
Mandy
I wonder if there's some kind of like, you know, different abortion clinics have different, I don't want to say vibes, but I used to volunteer to drive people home from abortions.
Weezy
Oh, that's sweet.
Mandy
So I'm not a great person. I feel like they gave me free birth control or something. I must have did something. But it was when I got my driver's license, it counted as volunteer hours. And I'm like, this is, is something I'm passionate about. So why I said I always saw them every single time. Because that's really.
Kyla
But that was in Orlando.
Mandy
True. But that was part of the safety thing. So basically like making sure that person isn't shamed on the way out.
Weezy
Yeah.
Mandy
Was more important than the Twilight.
Weezy
Right.
Mandy
They were like, oh, they'll wake up eventually. But like, make sure they don't, you know, encounter these people. And I heard some stories where people talked about other places they went to where they had to go through a few steps before getting approved for an abortion. No way. And this is 20 years ago. I'm 34 years old now. So like, it's weird because today I live in downtown Manhattan. So whenever I need to just get a test or do something, I go to Planned Parenthood because it's a 10 minute walk. It's in Soho. There's always someone outside. And I'm always like, I am so confused. You guys are literally in New York. I thought this was the place of freedom and abortion. It's weird. But when they go in here in.
Weezy
Hollywood too, they have the little one or two people with the signs.
Kyla
And that's the thing. Those are blue states, right?
Weezy
Yeah.
Mandy
You know who they are? Jehovah Witness. Jehovah Witness. Be doing a little. They have a little setup outside of a grocery store.
Esther
They never take holidays. They have so much time.
Kyla
Holidays.
Esther
I had a miscarriage like five years ago and I obviously that was a wanted pregnancy. And I will sometimes, similar to you think about like, oh, what would it have been like if I had that baby? But even though it was wanted and I didn't terminate it myself, I still feel very, very strongly. That was never a baby. Like it just, it was. I lost maybe like nine or ten weeks. And it's like you're just a. You're a.it's not a baby. And so I just feel very strongly like it was never a baby.
Kyla
I think it's difficult now. Like, and I. And I bring up the reversal of Roe v. Wade and how that affects, like, our autonomy. And there's the lady now. I forgot her name something. Smith in Georgia, where they're keeping her alive after having a brain aneurysm. She's now brain dead.
Weezy
He's brain dead.
Kyla
The family is responsible to keep her alive because they found she was nine weeks pregnant. So the family is now responsible to pay for the medical bills, keeping her alive for eight months, because they're like, well, she's pregnant. The life of the baby matters more than her. And her family has to literally go in and see that she's not there, but she's still breathing, all because there's a baby inside. And so, like, with these laws being changed even too, about the decisions we can make, luckily, we were in states at the time that allowed that. But even me, like, being back in Georgia, I'm like, shit, I'm gonna have to go to New York for my abortion now. Like, if it happens, like, well, I use condoms. I use condoms. I'm an advocate for it, so I'm being smart out here.
Mandy
You made it sound like it was a regular appointment. Oh, fuck, let's go get my hair done. And my abortion anymore.
Kyla
Literally, my hair too, by the way.
Mandy
Saying that you, like, you know, you felt good about the abortion at that time. I have a friend of mine, she's, like, always joking about this moment because her kids almost graduated now, but we did Molly, like, 10 years ago together. And she's like, I want to say something. I want to say it out loud.
Kyla
I was like.
Mandy
And she had just had a baby. I want to say it. I want to say it at 3 here. And I was like, do it. And this is like, rave Girl EDC shit back in the day. And she looked at me and she goes, I love him so much, talking about her son. But, like, I could have waited. I didn't want to think about it. I'm just like, maybe I'm just having a good one because I had it now. But, like, what if I didn't keep him wheezy? Would I have had another good one in 10 years? And I'm like, damn, do moms that felt pushed through their family, you know, we were young at the time. I'm 34 now. Do mothers that felt pushed be like, damn, I'm grateful for this life. Also.
Kyla
All my homegirls and babies be like, girl, don't have them.
Weezy
Don't have Them I'm an advocate for not till your 40s. Honestly.
Kyla
Consider freezer eggs. Now. Ladies have it. When.
Mandy
I mean, my mom had me at 40, but, you know, my parents are in their golden years, which sucks. But also, at the same time, I do appreciate how much life they lived.
Esther
Wait, oh, your parents had you older? What age did you say?
Mandy
My mom had me at 40, so my mom's 74 now. My dad is 90 next week. And I know. My friend Rihanda was telling me so much about you. She loves the show. Yeah, she's like, oh, my God, her too. You guys would connect. She told me that years ago.
Weezy
My dad is. I would have been 101. Esther. Esther 101.
Esther
Yeah. He was born in 1924, so 101.
Mandy
Whoa.
Esther
My dad's 82. I thought I had an old dad, but no.
Mandy
Oh, wait, I didn't know it was you, too.
Kyla
My dad is just still alive somewhere. I don't know his age. He was born in 65 or something. I don't know. He's a couple years older than my mom. My mom was born in 68. I don't know.
Mandy
Yeah, like, when your parents are in the 30s. And I don't know if you guys can relate. When you're a kid, you're like, oh, my God, this looks like my grandparent. Like, I'm old.
Weezy
I was so embarrassed when my dad would come pick us up from school, and we're like, oh, your grandpa's here. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's my grandpa. I wouldn't even, like, fix it. I wouldn't fix it.
Mandy
You know what's made it worse? My dad is the white one. My mom is the black one. My dad is the white one. I'm like, fuck, now you really look your age. And my mom just looks so youthful. Even today. She's in her 70s and people. And she's just a very vibrant person.
Kyla
I mean, honestly, your dad's looked 90 since I met you.
Mandy
Yeah, he does look.
Kyla
And we met at 15.
Mandy
He's an old Middle Eastern guy. He just looks old. And my mom called me one day years ago. I sent them on a cruise. He was more mobile at the time, but would use a wheelchair sometimes. And she's like, I can't even wear white because everyone thinks I'm his fucking nurse. I can't like that.
Kyla
Your mom is hilarious.
Mandy
If you think about it. What is this black lady doing with this old white guy? But also, are they the same age? Like, it's.
Weezy
Are you kidding? Me, my mom is 36 years younger than my dad. I am that prototypical white passport bro with that really young, like, Filipina chick. Even though, like, that wasn't the case, because my dad was actually, like, not a loser from America who just.
Kyla
That's what the passport bro.
Weezy
Like, my dad was, like, a wealthy European guy. He was born and raised in France. He's, like, multilingual. He was just, like, a traveling little bachelor, right?
Mandy
Who wouldn't want that?
Weezy
But from afar, I would be so insecure at, like, the nurse thing. And. And honestly, like, my mom is a nurse, so she would sometimes roll around in scrubs, and people probably just assume that. And what. I wouldn't correct it. I would be like, yeah, yeah, that's. That's my grandpa, and that's his nurse.
Kyla
You're not a bad person for doing that.
Mandy
I don't know how to grasp that. So that's why when I'm like, oh, my God, a kid at 40. Like, and every time my mom and I have a drink together, she's like, getting old sucks. I'm so tired of being old. I'm so old. Everybody just comes around, tells me how good I look. I can't walk. Think about our backs right now.
Weezy
Oh, my God.
Kyla
Oh, yeah. I be getting stretched. Fuck. A massage. I be like, stretch these hips. Me and my friend. My best friend will come over. I will roll out the yoga mat in the living room, and we just stretch her.
Mandy
Stretching.
Kyla
No, we stretch together. Both of our hips hurt.
Mandy
Oh. I was like, sex.
Kyla
No, we'll be talking and just be stretching at the same time. Like, ooh. We are the old people we used to talk about.
Esther
That's such a good idea. I'm fully taking that idea.
Kyla
Stretch with your friends.
Mandy
What is your demographic of listeners? Age? Cause we're saying some old bul. Someone in the back just went.
Esther
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Okay.
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Esther
Wait, what? Are you an only child?
Mandy
Yeah.
Kyla
Can't you tell?
Esther
I love that.
Mandy
How can you tell?
Kyla
You give off only tell.
Mandy
Oh my God. Why that?
Kyla
But you give off only child.
Mandy
Is it the selfish thing?
Weezy
It is. Yeah.
Esther
You kind of come in like I'm here.
Kyla
Give it to me now.
Mandy
I don't know see why I have to start with a hug. I don't know when I'm being rude.
Esther
I'm the same way. I'm selfish.
Kyla
You're an only child?
Esther
No, I actually, I have a half older sister who's eight years older.
Kyla
Does she live with you though?
Esther
Yeah. So I have. I. What I like to say is I have all the worst qualities of an only child and a younger sibling. So I'm annoying and selfish.
Mandy
Oh, no, that's me. She works with me.
Weezy
She knows I have seen you in party mode and I gotta say, thoroughly impressed. I went to this one day daytime party with Jenna. I think Alex invited us.
Mandy
It was a lot of everyday people.
Weezy
Yes, it was everyday people. The way you float around like a butterfly. I'm like, that is an only child girl.
Mandy
That was. I probably did a bump when you saw me. Like, honestly though, I am so. I don't know. It's interesting because I talk so much about how much I love partying. I love people. Like, I get my energy from other. That's the only child shit.
Weezy
Yeah.
Mandy
You know, And I've. I'm noticing it the most now, having a partner who had a big family who's like, why can't we just stay in this one hotel room and lock the door and enjoy the view? And I'm like, oh, my God, no, let's go talk to people. I'm talking to the fucking front desk. The front desk guy says, this place is great. And he's like, shut the fuck up. But it's that I'm desperate to talk to someone. Only child thing. And so partying is a way for me. Even when I was young, I would go out alone. And being a New Yorker, you know, we go out alone. That's how you meet your community. Your apartment's too small. It sucks. You go downstairs, you meet people. So partying is my way of almost feeling at home. That sounds crazy, but it is like, I love to do.
Weezy
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Mandy
Not in a way of, oh, my God, let's go get fucked up. I don't need anything. Yeah, you can throw me at a party. I can dance for hours. And people will be like, what is she? On the night you saw me, I was, but. Cause I remember that I was like, everyday people in la.
Weezy
Ooh, that was so fun.
Mandy
It was. I have my days especially like. I love the New York party scene. I love techno, I love house music, I love trap music. It just depends. So there's a really cool club called Basement. I don't know if anyone watched Baby Girl when Nicole had been yet, but.
Weezy
My mom has been begging me.
Mandy
Good. There's a scene where they go to this rave. That place exists in New York. It's real. It's a real club. And it feels exactly like that. You just can't have water there. Like, you do need to be on drugs. So there's times where people like, you want to go to Basement? I'm like, no, no, no. I went last month Month. Let's give it till July. Like give me a little break here. What's my normal party and what's my rage party line? I have one.
Weezy
Wait, this is actually pretty interesting because I have been historically never someone that can be social without either a drink in hand or just because like I have a lot of like social anxiety. I sweat from like head to toe. Anyways, we stumbled upon or Sella, you sent me that article about sober sex. And most of my younger years I could not. I really, really struggled having sober sex.
Kyla
You and I need to both do some sort of thing together. I dealt with this last year.
Weezy
Really.
Kyla
I went celibate and sober at the same time because I was realizing my need to be drunk to engage with sex. And it stemmed from maybe not feeling safe with the partners I was having sex with, but also I was doing it with my ex. Like by the way, if anyone would come over my house or I would go to them, it didn't matter what location. As soon as they walked through the door, shots, then the shrooms, then you want to blunt. And I had to be completely lit to even get off essentially. And then what I noticed between going sober and going celibate was my need to drink to be sometimes even around people. It's what made me realize, oh, I'm not the extrovert I thought I was. Because then when I was going out I was like, oh wait, I don't feel like I realized that I had to drink to be in these spaces. So where you're talking about this only child thing needing to be in these rooms, I realized how much, oh wow, I'm not the extrovert party or fun girl that I thought I was. I've been leaning heavily into liquor to existence.
Weezy
That is the biggest realization that I. So my whole idea of myself, my own self perception was that I was this party girl that I love to be around people. And anyone who knows me me or who, who knew me From like my 20s Vegas girl, all day parties, just being this like social butterfly. But I realized I was also drunk most of the time. And when I think about sex, I. The idea of it, like the performance of it all, I couldn't deal with so much.
Kyla
Which is crazy because I love to perform. I thought, like, it's so crazy because when I was single before I got my partner, like I double back to someone old and from, from the olden days and back in the day, I was like, let me just bring him.
Mandy
Back to your dad's age when he met your mom.
Kyla
You know, and I brought him. You know, he came over and I made the drink. And it almost hit me. This was after the celibate trip and all that. He was like, damn, you got a drink to fuck me after. I had already. Literally, mind you hadn't fucked him for like, seven, eight years. Just came back. But that's how we would fuck back then. We would party, we would club so much so to where there was many. To where I was like, did we fuck?
Mandy
You know, what did you say?
Kyla
And he hadn't even known that, like, I'd been another one of my guys. Was like, you be. You be lit with me, and you be lit. I like how you sucked his dick, but God damn, you be lit. To me, it's still just something I'm working on, like my kind of uncomfortability. And in the book I talk about, too, there's a sexual assault chapter. And not to make it dark, but.
Weezy
I also know that's what we're. Our show is dark. I'm the most diddled.
Kyla
Yeah.
Mandy
I love a good, like, let's talk about suicide stuff. Oh, my God.
Weezy
I've been. Do you have an institutionalized. Three times.
Mandy
Oh, my God. I know.
Kyla
Y' all are. Y' all are nuts now.
Mandy
No, I genuinely love those moments, like, being able to laugh and then like, okay, like, let's talk about that time that.
Kyla
Well, you do that, and you admit that you do that as a defense mechanism because you're uncomfortable talking about it.
Mandy
Exactly.
Weezy
Well, Esther always says, like, if you don't laugh about it, you'll die. Like, there's just no way to sort of, like, I dare.
Kyla
I be like, bitch, get your shit together. What's crazy is me, my mom, and my sister are all literally in therapy right now, ironically, for the same jealous.
Weezy
What A flat.
Kyla
No. This is my mom's first time and my sister. And we all realize they both told me, without me telling them what I'm working through. And it's feeling safe with men.
Mandy
Yeah.
Kyla
And it's like, damn, I. You know, I like eating coochie, too, but I want to be with a man. And it's just like, for this realization that maybe I'm not even fully comfortable with them in the most vulnerable act, which is sex. It's just like. Like, okay, so I've been toning down my liquor just to try to figure myself out more.
Weezy
But I think what's really interesting, too, is that if. Because I have a. A long history of, like, young sexual assault and then teen sexual assault and Just like the weirdest things. And also sexual assault in a relationship where I had a boyfriend who would rip the pillowcase if I said no. You know, that type of. Where it was like he had to have it twice a day. And I was with him for a couple years and if. If I said no, I would. He would just stonewall me or treat me like that day. And I was, you know, so that stuff really sort of like grows in your head. So then I. But when I stopped drinking altogether, like you, I realized, oh, I'm not just an introvert. I'm a hermit.
Kyla
Yeah.
Weezy
Like, I. You can leave me at home to bedrot for 18 hours and I am fine.
Kyla
Oh, after this trip, I get back to Atlanta on Saturday. All my friends know I probably won't leave my house till Wednesday. Like, after I do trips like this now, I'm like, I stay in my house with my cat and watch tv and I just have to be by myself.
Esther
You need to recover, decompress.
Weezy
Yeah.
Kyla
And we're going on tour for the book. And I'm literally. That's what. I'm also in therapy now. Like, what do I do to be able to exist with all these people now? Especially. Cause I told her for the tour I'm gonna minimize my drinking. I'm literally like, trying to be intentional with how I exist and knowing myself more kind of like how you said, like you thought you knew yourself. Oh, bitch. Every way in which I described myself in my 20s and even my early 30s, I was like, like, oh, that was all a perception of yourself because of how liquor existed in your life.
Weezy
Exactly.
Kyla
And as soon as that's removed, as soon as, like, you receive the confidence and self love and you start valuing yourself, it's like, oh, wait, maybe I'm also not this like sex driven siren that I think maybe I'm not this man eater that I thought I was.
Mandy
Hey, hey. Yes, we are.
Kyla
I mean, no. Well, trust me.
Weezy
Well, honestly.
Kyla
Honestly, that's the things that are like, like we go through in the book, right? Like, we have these journeys. Listen, my pussy gets electrocuted in this book, okay? I go to a dungeon, I put my ex's dick in a cage, pussy.
Mandy
Gets electrocuted with like, craziest stories in the book. Like, let's do three each.
Kyla
Yeah, okay, that's fine.
Mandy
Yeah. Really? Really.
Kyla
Okay, so I'll start with my dentist. Like, first off, I know this sounds really sad right now. You're not gonna. There are trigger warnings in this book, but we're going through Things we did.
Esther
Like suicide.
Kyla
Oh, my God. Abortion. Abortion.
Mandy
You know what's crazy about the suicide chapter?
Kyla
Hey, hey, let's go.
Mandy
I remember the day that I was like, oh, I think I'm gonna do it. I went out and I'm just.
Kyla
I'm like, wait, no, bitch, we were given three goddamn stories.
Mandy
No, no, she was.
Kyla
We want to get away from being sad, we gotta bring up the sex of the day.
Mandy
It's funny, though. My shit ain't sad sad.
Kyla
Well, it's. Cause you make it funny.
Mandy
I'm in the club and I'm like, yo, this music is really bad. I feel, like, paid to see this dj. I want to say it was Zed. Hope this doesn't go viral, but I used to love Zedd back in the day.
Weezy
We all did.
Mandy
So I'm like, yeah, let me go fuck with some Zed. I go, pull up, and I'm like, nah. Like, I really might kill myself tonight. Like, this isn't worth it. I thought I was gonna take myself back in time. Like, I want to die. This shit is trash. Clarity ain't hitting the stage.
Kyla
Clarity.
Mandy
I don't have clarity. Like, I really think, like, so people are offering. I'm like, bro, I want Valium in 20 of them. Like, I really was like, this music is trash. And it's crazy because when you're contemplating suicide, little things. I had a pizza that was bad, and I'm like, I should die. It's fucked up, but it starts to, like, just wait.
Esther
Was there something in your life going on that, like, that had you in that mindset, or it was purely triggered by Zed?
Mandy
No, no, no, no, no. I didn't want to die from Zed, but I already wish a clarity gave me. So the pressure of, I'm gonna do this thing, and I'm gonna feel better.
Esther
Yeah, this needs to fix my problems right now.
Mandy
So I'd be like, I'm gonna go out, and it would be so manic.
Kyla
She said, the sound system sucked that night, bruh. It ruined it. The bass wasn't hitting the way it needed to.
Weezy
I don't know.
Mandy
Brooklyn Mirage. I don't remember where it was in New York or what club back then. It was maybe eight or nine years ago, but I was like, this is not. It's crazy because that lifestyle of dancing and music is something that makes me feel good. But when you're depressed, depressed, there's no crawling out.
Esther
That's the worst thing when you're. When the things you love don't hit that Will, that is so dark.
Mandy
Like, yeah.
Esther
Or one of my most depressed states when I was in college, and it was when everyone around me loved college. They loved partying, they loved frats. And I'm like, oh, there's something wrong with me that I don't like this. Everyone else around me is happy, and I'm not. Like, that's another.
Mandy
Like, I know so many people must feel that I never. I never had a college experience. And I can't imagine, because. Yeah, that was the thing I feel like I missed. Oh, my God. I don't have as many girlfriends my age because I never met them in school. Or I don't have this long lineage of, like, you know, in black colleges, like, if you're not an AKA and you ain't gotta dance in a frat or a sorority, like, where's your identity at?
Kyla
I never wanted to be hazed. That was never a goal of mine.
Mandy
Oh. I wanted to be the AKs and be those girls.
Kyla
Like, you is not allowed to just be throwing stuff up.
Mandy
I don't know what this is.
Kyla
You did it again. Don't do that, girl.
Mandy
Whatever. All the signs.
Kyla
Stop throwing up the signs.
Mandy
It's okay. Sorry.
Weezy
You can throw a shaka.
Mandy
Okay. Oh, it's not. It's not a.
Weezy
The haka is a New Zealand Maori dance.
Mandy
Look.
Kyla
Thank you. The shaka, she's well traveled, but, you know, listen.
Mandy
Sorry, wheezy.
Esther
I need to hear about what's going on.
Kyla
Electrocuted pussy and a chastity cage. Go.
Weezy
Oh, gosh.
Mandy
My boyfriend ate my blood. Because I was insecure about my period.
Kyla
I hooked up with a couple that I shot my shot at in Mexico ago.
Mandy
Oh, they were great.
Kyla
Literally left my tour and stayed on an island. I said, tour boat. You don't have to take me back to the mainland. I'm staying with them.
Weezy
This is where I really could. I needed you when I was single.
Mandy
Because I did not know.
Weezy
I was like, where is my gang bang?
Mandy
I couldn't find my gang bang.
Kyla
It was a woman and a man. But I do even share, like, the shooting your shot. Like, I give tips. I'm very big with. Like, I go after what I want. I slide in DMs, I send drinks across the bar. So literally, I saw this couple. They was fine as shit. And so we both ended up being at the bar together. And I share this story on the pod. But, like, the. The theme around the chapter in the book is that I don't think I experience this if, say, my friends are with Me, because I'm thinking about what my friends are gonna think, right? I'm thinking about what society's gonna think. Like, bitch, you're gonna leave with this couple. So I literally lean into the fact that this was a solo trip to Mexico, and I wanted just to decompress. I was sad about breaking up with my ex for the 12th time, and I was like, I just need to break. I'm overworked. Go there, and I decide to swim with whale sharks because all my friends. All my friends would not do it. Them bitches is like, oh, yeah, that's your white side. Swim with whale sharks. Who the fuck wants to do that? So I'm like, I'm by myself. I'm gonna swim with these whale sharks. We get to the island. I fucking can't. What's that?
Mandy
Isla Mujeres.
Kyla
Isla Mujeres. And I see this couple, and they find. And I'm like, fuck it.
Mandy
I wasn't there.
Kyla
I buy them. It was a solo trip. I buy them shots, and I go down, and I was like, I just think y' all look so good. Here's some shots. Happens to be his birthday. We happen to. They're from New York. My boat goes to leave, and they're like, damn. Really wish you could say. And I said, bitch, I could get back to the mainland, right? And they said, yeah, there's a ferry. I said, okay, let me go get my stuff. I'm staying. Oh, my God. And I end up staying with them for two days. We fuck like crazy. He thought it was set up because this is his first threesome for his 35th birthday in his life. And he's like. He comes out after it happened, and he's like, y' all know each other. There's no way that just happened. And it was, like, the best thing. He, like, dated both of us for two days.
Mandy
You know, this is, like, also, like, the situation that I. We just described. So we went on a friend's podcast, Heather and Terrell. And I was like, yeah, you have to be on vacation, and it's just some hot girl that just starts flirting with you. I'm like, it may not happen. It might.
Kyla
Like, it happened. It was a roll.
Weezy
It never happens.
Mandy
It does. Girl, you know how many threesomes I had?
Weezy
I mean, I've had threesomes, too, but.
Mandy
Just, like, again, okay, you maybe needed a hotter boyfriend. I'm gonna be honest.
Weezy
It's not that. It's not that.
Mandy
No, no. For a hot girl to, like, they might want to you, too, but when.
Kyla
It'S a hot couple. Yeah.
Mandy
Everyone's like, I'm the problem.
Weezy
So I have this idea in my head. Even with face paralysis, I have face paralysis. Me still.
Esther
Wait, no one sees me anymore. Personality.
Kyla
Wait, your.
Weezy
Your face went like when I gave birth. My face.
Mandy
Oh my God.
Kyla
That's what happened to Heather. You should have her on.
Mandy
Here's no Heather Sanders.
Kyla
No.
Mandy
Oh my God, she's so like hot.
Kyla
Bell's palsy after birth.
Mandy
Oh, her. Her how he was birth control even more. He's like, I was hitting this. No, they got to have. Wait.
Kyla
You guys want to have kids knowing this could happen? Crazy. Wait.
Weezy
I. It's eight months out. I don't know. I think I need Botox at this point.
Kyla
You just like massage your face something.
Weezy
Yeah.
Esther
Also, she's right. People don't want to threesomes with you because you have ugly ass boyfriends.
Weezy
Okay, that's. Let's just say Bobby Lee was a little bit of a hard sell.
Mandy
No, but at the same time, Bobby Lee is Bobby Lee and he's cool. He's cool. Like I. I think he's attractive. But conventionally attractive to be hot couple.
Kyla
Isn't he short?
Mandy
You guys are more cool.
Weezy
Are you nine to short guys?
Mandy
Girl, he's short. How short?
Weezy
He's five' four.
Mandy
I was about to say not to add. I'm saying he would have had to.
Kyla
Get the knee surgery for y' all to start having sign up.
Mandy
And you're tall. Literally.
Kyla
Just add three. Even three inches would have only made him five. But that's the thing.
Mandy
If it's a girl gonna want to a guy that's shorter. No, that's a thing. Like, you gotta like one.
Kyla
You could have found a shorter girl, but nobody wants to a guy who's five four.
Weezy
Okay? Understand that. So except you, my current.
Mandy
Clearly.
Weezy
I'm telling you guys, I'm the problem. And I'll explain to you why. Okay, so I'm. I. I was still dating the guy that I'm with now. And he's this strapping Hawaiian man named Aloha. Six over six feet tall, big.
Kyla
He got the tribal tattoos.
Weezy
He doesn't have the tattoos, but he's.
Kyla
He look like Roman Reigns, but he.
Weezy
Is like a man. You know what I mean? Big and burly and just beautiful.
Esther
I look at this man, all I want is a piggyback ride. I just. I want to. I want to get from here to West Hollywood on his back.
Kyla
I know that's right.
Mandy
Listen, we might need to share pictures I'm envisioning it. I could see the both of you now.
Weezy
Okay. And if I told you. Oh, okay. It was a situation that could have possibly been as perfect as your Isa Mujeres drink. And there was a girl who came into town from New York, and she's a burlesque dancer, and I'll show you pictures afterwards, and she was incredibly beautiful. And she shot her shot.
Esther
What?
Weezy
With me.
Kyla
Wait, and how did you drop the ball?
Weezy
We went to the strip club together. We were making out in the strip club. And for some reason, maybe I was not drunk enough or I don't know what the happened. I chickened out. So she was like, hey, I'm actually locked out of my apartment because she wanted to come back with us.
Kyla
She was throwing that pussy.
Mandy
She looked so beautiful. I don't know if y' all have ever had a threesome with a guy that has a super huge dick, but I actually remember this moment, my friend. Actually, I talk about it in the book. My first threesome ever. Stop Samir. And his dick was so big that I kind of felt like her and I were fake taking breaks. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me just. Like, when it's too big, you got 15 pumps. Like, that's not.
Kyla
And see, I guess that's, like, the thing about, like, exploring yourself sexually. Removing the drugs, adding the drugs, the liquor, the. The. All the things. All of the things you have to unlearn because of maybe religion and your family and all these things. Like, in the book, we go through the assault, we go through the abortion, we go through the threesomes, we go through the dungeon, we go to the sex club, we go through heartbreak, we go through throuples. Like, all of these stories are told to where we either reflect from them or we also share, though, like, how it helped shape us into where we're at.
Mandy
It's broken up into pa, pain, pleasure, progression, and power. So, like, for example, in the pain chapter, there's the abortion story, there's a rape story, then there's a story about getting spanked, and then there's a story about heartbreak. Like, it's pain looks different in progression. What I really love, it's like, sugar daddy story, but also, like, what did I do with the money when the sugar daddy gave it to me? Did I buy a bag or did I buy a stock portfolio?
Kyla
And then for me, I talked about how I didn't have value for myself and loved being a side chick with marriage. So I have a Chapter that's titled, like, do married men really treat you better? And it was because I felt like I got the best version of this man. I never wanted to be in the wife's position, but in hindsight I realized, oh, it's because I wasn't ready to be a man's priority or I didn't value myself as someone who could come number one. So I was fine with number two and the crumbs and the little bit of time that I got with these people. And I talk about, like, where my mind was in my twenties, to not really valuing myself, to not feeling like I deserved more, to where I'm at now, like, oh, bitch, you was a worthless piece of shit. I'm glad you got past that and found your power. But that, that section for me particularly is like, who finding, like, my. I. I guess it's right before the power. But all the lessons that I learned in ways that I showed up and thought I was powerful even in the beginning of this podcast to where now I'm like, oh, bitch, I would never do that.
Weezy
Right? Fuck.
Kyla
For a flight. Are you kidding me? Like, like, no. Yeah, I can fly myself now. First class, wherever the I want to go. We're about to be in the south of France going extra day to do Monte Carlo, and I'm taking a helicopter from there to Nice, like, because I just want to do it on the blade. This is not an app.
Weezy
To that I will say, though, to that I will say I do fantasize about my broke girl days of really trying to get drinks through an interaction. Yeah, there's something really fun about those days that will never even now. I'm like, of course I can buy my own. Of course I can fly myself. But those days were fun, girl, you.
Kyla
Could do them today. I go out with my friends now and I'd be like, girl, let's see how many drinks we could get. I'll go out and be like, whoever gets the most numbers, the other person owes them a hundred bucks. We now make it like a game to go out and see, because first off, men are broke now, but also we're in a recession. Drinks are $25.
Mandy
Can we get honest, though? I don't know if it's the same across the board, but at least in New York and in the south, broke dick behead.
Kyla
Here we go with this.
Mandy
Oh, let me tell you something.
Kyla
She loves putting them on a pedestal.
Mandy
You remember the SC skater guy?
Kyla
Here we go. There's skaters, there's bartenders, there's all the broke with these big old dicks.
Mandy
Okay, So I like, like I have a type. I like alt guy. So you like alt guy? Alt black guy. Like, does the guy look like he fucks white girls? But he doesn't. That's what I want.
Kyla
No, he looks like if you hop in his car, he's gonna be playing Paramore.
Weezy
Oh, well, you know, not a bad choice.
Mandy
Not a bad choice. That black guy. Yeah, so. Oh my God. There was this guy literally skating. I was with Alex. Oh, he was so mad at me. Cause I left him. It was 3 o' clock in the morning and he's like smoking a cigarette. And this is so Lower east side. He's like, I've never seen you. I'm like, I've never seen you. And he's like, fuck you, man. I'm like, fuck you, man.
Kyla
In my home that you don't have.
Mandy
So he takes me to this like super chic club in New York that, like, nobody can get into. Because the broke guy always knows everyone. One, he got bomb dick and he's.
Kyla
Fine and probably gives people their.
Mandy
So what? I wanted some too, probably. So basically we're out and I'm like, damn, how does he know everybody? He's not paying for shit, so I'm not thinking anything. Everybody's giving him a free drink. Finally he comes back to my house. Sex is bomb. I mean, it was so good. I was like, how many girlfriends does he have? I don't even know. So I was like, can you get me some water? He goes in my fridge and he says, damn, you got a lot of shit in here. And I'm like, I got a lot of shit in the fridge, bro. It's very nicely packed from whole food. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. So I'm like, okay, this is some ho shit to say. So then he comes back to the bed. Big dick. Fine. I'm like, oh, don't think so. Then finally I say, don't think. Where do you live? He's like, well, right now.
Weezy
Oh, they're. Right now.
Kyla
Right now.
Mandy
Right now I'm in Bushwick. But I kind of just bounce from Bushwick to Westchester and then like, kind of like Newark, like, area. Oh, his. You don't have a home?
Kyla
No.
Mandy
Cause I would have never answered the question saying I bounced.
Kyla
Right now, tell everyone how you still put his dick in your mouth, bitch.
Mandy
You tasted good. Mind you, you don't know what he does right now. He's like pursuing an art collective in la. He Was like, oh, you should come by the house sometime. So right now, some guy loves his art so much, he's living in the guest suite that is bigger than my LA apartment. Girl, I'm telling you, good dick take you far.
Kyla
I don't know if he's in the wife. Fuck the unhoused. Give them some coochie. It's big.
Weezy
Well, you know, what if they do have the potential? You know, if he's a good artist, if there's something there. I think. I think you're right.
Mandy
I think he's 38. So I don't know. But I know what you're saying. So if you're in your 20s listening to this, maybe, Maybe me, I'm wearing a blazer right now. I have a book coming out. Absolutely not, bro. At one point, I was like, yo, I really got too much money to be hanging with this N. Cause we were, like, walking down the street. And I want to say somebody was like, oh, my God, didn't I meet you in Paris? That's what this girl said to me. It was Fashion Week. I was like, yes, we just saw each other. She's like, okay, I'll see you at blah, blah, blah. And he's like, damn, that's what you be doing. I'm like, oh, no, no. He's thinking of his life if he's gonna be pregnant. But I'm telling you, broke dick is different. Cause they really gotta fight for it. Cause next he could be between Bushwick and the Lower east side.
Kyla
The praise about this, bro.
Mandy
Pussy, too. Think about, bro, the way I was throwing pussy when I worked at T Mobile. I was fucking different, bitch. I was really, really hitting it. Now I'm just like, bro, I have to do Trash Tuesday. I haven't got shit to do. Yeah, I'm not about to fuck you for four hours and jump off the wall.
Weezy
That is young girl, sport.
Kyla
Hello.
Weezy
No, thank you.
Mandy
Broke shit be hitting.
Kyla
I'm telling you, I like rounds. I will make time.
Mandy
You can't have a job if you gonna do that.
Kyla
No, I will put it in my calendar. Hey, I'm unavailable for these four hours.
Weezy
I wanted to ask you guys something that's really sort of the same thing that we're going through, which is like, how you rebranded from horrible decisions to decisions, decisions. And when. If. If there was a fear of being like, oh, we might sort of lose, like, some of our core audience or whatever. We're thinking about changing our name. How did it go for you guys?
Kyla
We just talked about this on Air. Like I said, I love it. I was ready to get rid of the horror title in it. I think it was keeping us back. We felt stagnant for a little bit now. For me, I feel excited about the rebrand. Horrible decisions still exist, but on Patreon, behind the paywall. I think Weezy has felt disconnected a little bit from the rebrand.
Mandy
My biggest disconnection that Mandy's talking about is the fans feeling like, oh, well, you don't want to be a hoe anymore. Like, now you're too good for it or now you want to change. And I also recently got in a relationship and I'm like thinking to myself, oh, changing the name now. Now I'm grown up because I've got a man. Like, you know how people.
Kyla
You always had a man when you was a ho, too.
Mandy
I always have a boyfriend.
Kyla
Every man she dates becomes a boyfriend on a.
Mandy
People always. Girls with boyfriends do that shit. Oh, my God, she's doing what? Bitch, you were sucking dick right in the car too, a few months ago.
Weezy
But that's also a little unfair for people to be on this journey with you and not want to watch you grow or change like that is.
Mandy
Oh, no.
Kyla
For women, once you're a hoe, you're always a hoe. You can't grow. You can't.
Weezy
But okay, like, I just gave birth, but that little hoe fire still burns deep in my chest. And I hope, like, once my facial paralysis is good, that I'm back to threesomes.
Kyla
You could be a ho ta night.
Weezy
I. I do. I really want to be. I want to get back into being a full fledged hoe.
Esther
I noticed you said threesomes and then you pointed to her and her, and.
Weezy
I was just like, oh, wait, you.
Kyla
Have them too, right?
Esther
No, I haven't, but I just.
Weezy
But she does.
Kyla
So why you being mad? You got left out, girl.
Esther
Cuz I have a work crush on Kua.
Weezy
She has my name tattooed on her is why. Oh, it's just a work crush.
Mandy
That is the best.
Kyla
That is the gayest I've ever heard.
Mandy
No, but let me tell you what this is. You know how white boys get drunk and they be doing like that? They be like, yeah, I got to your Cheeto bag on my ass. That's the but I'm hearing right now.
Kyla
Is, wait, you did that sober?
Weezy
Yeah, for my birthday. It was apparently my birthday gift. She was like, happy birthday.
Mandy
I love this story.
Esther
She doesn't. Like, we've been friends like a decade.
Kyla
Where'd you Put it.
Esther
No, it's right here.
Kyla
Okay.
Mandy
Honestly, I would. I would probably do that for any of my best friends right now. So.
Kyla
No, we. I have matching tattoos with my friends, but I'm not tatting their names on.
Mandy
I would put Vinnie Briandra right here. I wouldn't get.
Kyla
I don't even have kids. I'm not tatting no names on me.
Mandy
That lets you know. How many tattoos do you have?
Esther
Well, I have like four. The thing is, though, is that they were supposed to be semi permanent, but they were supposed to.
Kyla
Like you said. It's still here.
Esther
Yeah. It's been five years and they're all still there.
Mandy
Yeah. Do you have your husband's name?
Esther
No.
Kyla
Wait, you're married?
Esther
Yeah.
Kyla
And you have her name tatted on you, but not your husband?
Mandy
We couldn't get in one fight. I'd be like, that's why you got that bitch name on your.
Weezy
That.
Kyla
Oh, wow, bro, I ain't going to be judgy. Listen, I don't judge.
Weezy
Will you please promise? You have to promise to come back because we have. I have so much more to talk about. Okay, so bananas are for potassium. And when, like, things get a little bit emotional, banana is the cure to all in. In my mind.
Esther
Cuz we always talk about crazy shit.
Mandy
Like, why didn't they bring this out during the suicide?
Weezy
I didn't make up the potassium part. It's good for your heart. Believe it, girl. Oh, you thought it was some phallic shit? Like some.
Kyla
She wanted us to stop Suck the.
Mandy
Because we just rebranded.
Kyla
She's like, this is how I suck. This is how I do it with braces, bro.
Mandy
That's been my whole new brand. You can still.
Weezy
You know what? Adult braces. Such a vibe.
Esther
I want them.
Mandy
So before you got in. Thank you.
Weezy
No, because in the Philippines, that. That's a trend, right?
Esther
So high.
Weezy
Like, you are of status when you have adult braces.
Kyla
Filipino got braces.
Mandy
And I'm like, are they cheap there?
Weezy
Well, no, it's because it's a sign of status. Status that you got money for braces.
Mandy
Oh, I'm.
Esther
I'm copying you. You guys, like, I'm obsessed with you too. You are the funniest.
Mandy
Not another tattoo. Oh, my God. You guys gotta come on. Horrible.
Weezy
Wait, can we come on your show?
Kyla
This.
Esther
How often are you guys in la? I need to see you, like, every day.
Mandy
Oh, my God. She's never gonna come back. She hates.
Kyla
I hate it.
Mandy
We have two more days here. You have to come on.
Kyla
I hate it.
Mandy
Bring the baby? No, she'll. She'll hate it.
Kyla
Like, smoothies, the acai bowls, the three seasons in one day. I got to wear a jacket, a cardigan, a tank top.
Mandy
It's so luxury shit. And I love.
Kyla
Then everything's an hour away. My friend just canceled with me because she had me go into another place I don't remember, and she's like, I'm not going to do that to you. Because it's like an hour, and then you have to go back downtown, and that's like an hour.
Mandy
They moved from New York. I'm not going to do that. Girls got to eat. Shout out to Girls got to eat. They moved from New York. And I think that's why they're on the beach. New Yorkers be like, ooh, let me get the beach, bitch.
Kyla
I was in the Bronx and had over Orchard.
Esther
No, it was a little.
Kyla
A good beach, but there's beaches in New York.
Mandy
It's green.
Kyla
Not Gunnison, but that's all the way in. Sandy Hook. You had to go all the way to Jersey.
Mandy
Sorry, Esther. It's your show.
Weezy
No, no, I was.
Kyla
You got to come on ours.
Mandy
Maybe Friday.
Kyla
We have them Friday.
Mandy
Friday.
Weezy
We have a show on Friday.
Kyla
Look at us, trying to get y' all on our.
Weezy
No, but, like, we do.
Mandy
We want.
Weezy
We want to take a really long New York trip really, really soon. Don't we, Esther?
Esther
Yeah, you know, I. Y' all got.
Kyla
To coordinate that with my travel schedule, cuz. I. I don't live there no more.
Weezy
Oh, you don't live there.
Esther
So how do you guys record?
Kyla
Girl, we bulk. We. We recorded through August, baby.
Mandy
Well, when you.
Kyla
Last month. They're going to hear about it in August. They don't even get to know my actual schedule. They are so behind, bro.
Mandy
That's the scary thing about bulk recording. Cause it's like, oh, my God. I had an episode come out once. Not this current partner, but it was my ex boyfriend. I was talking about how in love we were, and he wrote me and he was like. We were in a huge fight. He said, oh, it felt so good to wake up and hear this. Just knowing we're good. We ain't good.
Kyla
Nigga, that shit was harsh.
Mandy
What are you talking about? Oh, I wanted to go back and edit, bro. Bulk recording, it's the best with guests. Cause then it really is just, oh.
Kyla
Yeah, the guests allow us to get out of our personal life. But I've literally said, like, okay, like, to my boyfriend. I'm like, we've worked through things Together that are is just now coming out on air. And I'm like, okay, that sucks. And then I know, like, if there's a breakup that my relationship is going to last longer on the podcast than it does in real life. You know what?
Mandy
Hold on. Can I just ask not to make it awkward, what was the black people tab for?
Weezy
There was a black people tab.
Mandy
Who is looking up black people on Google? That's crazy.
Weezy
What?
Kyla
There is black. There's a black people tab up there.
Mandy
Oh my God.
Weezy
Whose computer is that?
Mandy
Oh, wait, you said black people that way.
Weezy
No, no, you were on Danelle Rawlings and you talked about black people and oh, Donnell. And you were talking about like black people in depression. And I was like, is this like a real thing?
Kyla
Like, okay, you were talking primetime comedian Don L. Rollins, you know.
Mandy
Cause black people don't believe in therapy. They be like, bitch, go for a walk.
Kyla
Oh, I didn't. If you go back to our first year of podcasting, she was in therapy and I was like, oh, that means you don't know yourself. Get like, not you having.
Mandy
When I met my boyfriend and I asked him if he had ever been to therapy, he goes, I'm African. Are you talking about, you know, like. And he has. He's the youngest one. Like, there's, you know, first generation parents. They also like got money and moved to Connecticut. They were the only black kid dark skinned and is a white school. You know, Connecticut is like shishi.
Weezy
Oh my God.
Esther
That's my best friend.
Weezy
She grew up in Vermont with me. Black. So black.
Mandy
Oh my God.
Weezy
She talks about that whole time.
Mandy
We know that black guy and we know that black girl and white people know it too. It's like the Carlton kind of. And when white people see him, they're like, oh, he's one of them.
Kyla
Crazy.
Mandy
It's true. Are you problematic right now? But I'm telling you, I don't care who says that. It's like Alabama Barker. What the fuck happened to this bitch?
Weezy
But I can't. I'm a little confused about Alabama. Is she like trying to cosplay chola or is she trying to cosplay like, what is it?
Kyla
I don't know. Why are we talking about the loser? But hat baby won. That I know killed her.
Weezy
Baby was on her movie.
Esther
Yeah, she was.
Weezy
Really?
Kyla
When I tell you I like that.
Mandy
Little girl, but she just.
Kyla
She be rapping. Nah, her songs.
Mandy
Did you hear to see that clip right where she was like, say you got a black guy one time I'm supposed to Break up a family.
Kyla
No, I saw that.
Mandy
It was with Camila Cabello.
Weezy
Cabello, yeah.
Mandy
That was fucking crazy. I was jealous of, like, father's in the home. Where's Travis? How the fuck did she get to that? I'm telling you right now. When I see white girls that start with this whole shit, I'm terrified.
Kyla
Did you see the trend on Twitter right now? There's a new song by Machine Gun Kelly, and they're like, whoa, I've never seen a white guy cosplay being a white guy. Did you see? Did you? But what's crazy is that song is a bop. That's gonna be the little tune for the pop radio station.
Mandy
It is gonna be good.
Kyla
But they're like, machine Gun Kelly. Who is. Who is this in this new music video right now?
Mandy
I don't like it. And you know what I like?
Kyla
I told you. He's looking like. He's looking like. Like he would have been on. What's the one song I like? Girls that Wear Abercrombie. That's what the video looks like. A ticket if I had one wish. It's called First Off, Y' All Are Poor. Not commercials on YouTube or.
Mandy
Look at the fucking job. $80 a month. Or the flare pants that Work too.
Weezy
Look at him getting.
Kyla
Starts dancing. Who is this?
Mandy
Oh, this is cool.
Weezy
With his wired headphones. I like this.
Mandy
Yes. Like, I'm really.
Kyla
Hold on. He starts dancing. I love it. Look at him. It's giving 90s.
Mandy
He started with black people in the music video. Girl, he really changing.
Kyla
No. Who is he, G?
Mandy
Eazy better not do this. Oh, there they are. They're in the back. Look.
Kyla
You're dancing, though. But, yeah, look.
Mandy
No, no, no. I'm just saying, like, we need to keep this.
Kyla
Look at this. Look at this. He's sliding across a bubbled car.
Mandy
This is Post Malone's fault because he started with us and now you.
Weezy
Early Post Malone, when he was really messy on stage and he would get up and he was fat and sweaty and a little out of breath. Oh, so hot.
Mandy
You know what happened? He did Beyonce's country album. He was like, hold on, I'm getting close. I don't know what's going on. And try. And I like dirty white boy. Look. But you could have started with that. Why you switched up on us. I don't like that.
Weezy
We're gonna kick you out so that you're not late to your next show, by the way.
Mandy
We're late.
Weezy
But you had. You guys have to. Please, please, please come back.
Kyla
Yes, for the audience that does read books. We have a book coming out, no holds barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. If you don't read books, but like, listening to bitches talk all day, we do also have an audible version. So you could just listen to the masterpiece. Do that. And then also if you pre order it now, it does come out June 24, but if you pre order it, because bitches like free shit, we are sending out a master class. So we literally. The dungeon that I talk about in the book, I go there and you get to see it.
Mandy
What?
Kyla
She sits down with a matchmaker. We do like a BDSM 101. I go through, like, getting over a breakup because I talk about that in the book. And this is all a free masterclass that you get between now and July 1st. So literally, literally go to our Instagram page. Decisions, Decisions, underscore decisionsdecisions. And there's a masterclass form link. You upload your receipt and we send you a code for the masterclass.
Weezy
Incredible.
Esther
I am obsessed with you guys. Please be my best friend. Please, let's have a sleepover.
Kyla
I'm not gonna lie.
Mandy
I only want you to be my.
Kyla
Best friend so I could be like, I got this tedded my name on.
Mandy
Low key. I'm about to call all my friends. Be like, why the you ain't do that?
Kyla
No. Thank you for having us. We're gonna have to do another cross collab.
Esther
Listen to Decisions, Decisions and get this book. No holes barred. And listen to that. We love you. We'll see you next week with a brand new episode.
Weezy
Thank you. You guys are free.
Esther
Sam.
Podcast Summary: Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: No Holes Barred w/ Mandii and WeezyWTF
Release Date: June 24, 2025
Introduction
In this vibrant and candid episode of "Trash Tuesday," hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn welcome special guests Mandii and WeezyWTF for an unfiltered conversation titled "No Holes Barred." The episode delves deep into personal traumas, cultural experiences, relationships, mental health, and the journey of self-discovery. Through humor and heartfelt discussions, the group navigates topics that resonate with their diverse audience.
Cultural Background and TV Network Experiences
The conversation kicks off with Mandii and WeezyWTF sharing their Asian heritage and experiences living in Singapore and the Philippines. Mandy remarks, "I feel like LA is the Philippines," highlighting the cultural blend she observes in her community (00:41). This segues into a discussion about their involvement with prominent TV networks.
Weezy reminisces about her time with Vice, stating, "Vice got weird" (02:34), and shares how many stars emerged from the network despite its eventual decline. Mandy adds, "We are starting this episode... we've been on HBO, BET, Viceland," emphasizing their diverse media backgrounds (02:01). The hosts reflect on the challenges of creating content with limited budgets, leading to missed opportunities, such as Mandy's pilot for MTV2's "Ghosted," which ultimately did not air (05:57).
Notable Quotes:
Abortion and Personal Experiences
A significant portion of the episode addresses abortion and its emotional ramifications. The guests openly discuss their personal experiences, breaking societal taboos and stigmas associated with the topic.
Weezy shares her multiple abortions, highlighting the complexities and the decisions behind them: "I absolutely regret not. I have a baby now," followed by "Those were correct decisions for myself" (14:22). Kyla adds her perspective on abortion's impact, reflecting on societal pressures: "We were talking about the reversal of Roe v. Wade and how that affects our autonomy" (19:22).
Esther relates her miscarriage experience, expressing a nuanced view: "I lost maybe like nine or ten weeks. It was never a baby" (18:48). The group discusses the emotional toll of these experiences and the importance of making empowered choices.
Notable Quotes:
Family and Relationships
The conversation shifts to the dynamics of family and the age of parents. Mandy humorously describes her parents' ages: "My mom had me at 40... My dad is 90 next week" (21:37). Weezy shares her insecurities regarding her father's youthful appearance: "I wouldn't fix it. I would be like, yeah, yeah, that's my grandpa, and that's his nurse" (23:00).
Discussing relationships, the hosts delve into how family perceptions influence personal connections. They touch upon the challenges of dating within cultural expectations and the complexities of interracial relationships.
Notable Quotes:
Mental Health, Therapy, and Personal Growth
Mental health is a pivotal theme in this episode. The hosts and guests openly discuss their struggles with depression, anxiety, and the stigma surrounding therapy, especially within the Black community.
Kyla shares her journey toward sobriety and self-awareness: "I realized I wasn't even fully comfortable with partners in the most vulnerable act, which is sex" (34:11). Weezy talks about overcoming sexual trauma and the importance of therapy: "I have a long history of sexual assault... I realize now I'm not just an introvert" (35:09).
The group emphasizes the importance of seeking help and the transformative power of embracing one's vulnerabilities.
Notable Quotes:
Partying, Social Anxiety, and Lifestyle Changes
Transitioning from mental health, the discussion moves to partying and the impact of alcohol on social interactions. Mandy reflects on her transformation from a party enthusiast to someone who moderates her lifestyle for personal growth: "Partying is my way of almost feeling at home" (28:38).
Weezy and Kyla discuss their challenges with social anxiety and the realization that they are not as extroverted as they once believed. They explore how alcohol enabled their social personas and the journey toward sobriety has reshaped their identities.
Notable Quotes:
Sexual Experiences and Exploration
Sexuality and exploration are central to this episode’s candid conversations. The hosts and guests delve into their experiences with threesomes, sexual assault, and the intersection of sex and self-esteem.
Kyla recounts a spontaneous threesome experience in Mexico, highlighting the complexities of consent and personal boundaries: "I share this story on the pod... it was the best thing" (41:57). Mandy humorously shares her awkward experiences with sexual encounters, blending humor with vulnerability: "I wanted to say, oh, this is a rave Girl EDC shit" (37:05).
The discussion underscores the importance of understanding one's desires and setting healthy boundaries.
Notable Quotes:
Rebranding the Podcast and Future Plans
Towards the episode’s conclusion, the hosts discuss their podcast’s rebranding from "Horrible Decisions" to "Decisions, Decisions." They address concerns about losing their core audience and the challenges of evolving their brand.
Kyla expresses excitement about the change: "I feel excited about the rebrand. Horrible decisions still exist, but on Patreon" (52:52). Mandy shares her apprehensions about how fans perceive their growth: "People might feel like, oh, you don't want to be a hoe anymore" (53:10).
The conversation also touches on their upcoming book, "No Holes Barred," which explores themes of sexual exploration and personal power. They promote a masterclass for those who pre-order the book, offering deeper insights into their personal journeys.
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion
The episode wraps up with playful banter and mutual appreciation among the hosts and guests. They emphasize the importance of authentic conversations and supporting each other’s growth. Esther encourages listeners to engage with their upcoming book and masterclass, fostering a community of openness and empowerment.
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