Peter Kim is Tapped In ft. Rudy Jules

Summary

Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: "Peter Kim is Tapped In ft. Rudy Jules"

Date: January 6, 2026

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Main Theme & Overview

This episode features comedian Peter Kim alongside co-hosts Khalyla Kuhn, Esther Povitsky, and regular "Rudy" Jules. They delve deeply—and hilariously—into Asian identity, cultural and social dynamics on social media, sexuality, and the politics of inclusion, all through their irreverent, trauma-unloading, "hot girl" lens. The conversation covers everything from the viral “H Martgate” TikTok controversy, inter- and intra-Asian relations, queer identity, and even gym hookup folklore. The hosts and guests navigate personal anecdotes, identity confessions, and playful banter while addressing larger cultural discourses in a sharp, often self-deprecating tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Show and Community Vibe

• [00:18] Announcement of Trash Tuesday's live show in LA at the Comedy Store, showcasing excitement for in-person community events.
• Khalyla promises: "It's just going to be a really fun special night... bringing in our regulars from the pods." (00:44)

2. Asian Identity and Representation

• [02:46] Discussion on differentiating and identifying specific Asian backgrounds, including Peter’s comfort with being asked about his Korean background.
• Peter on ethnic guessing: "I think I'm, like, 88% on it... But East Asians, I got it down." (03:21)
• Jules admits, "I still get confused with East Asians, especially Chinese and Korean." (03:35)

3. Korean Spa Anecdote & Bobby Lee

• Peter recounts an initiation with Bobby Lee before working together, where Lee insists they get naked in a steam room for "trust" (05:56).
• "We need to be fully naked together because I can't work with anyone that I haven't seen naked." – Peter Kim, quoting Bobby Lee (06:19)
• A funny retelling of a literal and metaphorical "sizing up": Bobby: "So you think you're better than me?" (07:26)

4. Dating, Desire, and Queer Experience

• Jules preparing for her first date with a woman, discussing nerves, "am I the stud?" (10:43)
• The group breaks down LGBTQ+ labels: stud, femme, stem, verse, and how they play out in dating (11:11).
• "I'm sub," Jules declares; Peter: "So you're femme. In bed." (11:34)

5. Viral TikTok Controversies: H Martgate & Asian Social Media

• Peter and the group break down the months-long "H Martgate," centering on identity, gatekeeping in Asian spaces, and public apologies [(17:48) – (22:01)].
• Peter: "Now Black TikTok's talking about it. ... It's infighting that other people are watching and just eating popcorn and having a great time." (23:46)
• Discussion of cultural boundaries and what it means to respectfully enter POC spaces: "You just have to enter with respect." – Peter Kim (26:15)
• Esther: "Painful in your bones when someone yucks your yum." (27:13)

6. Inter-Asian and Interracial Dynamics

• Peter shares family drama about his brother having a baby with a non-Korean, and maternal preferences that mask generational biases (31:32).
• Discussion of colorism and anti-Blackness in Asian communities, connecting individual bias to systemic issues (30:22).
• "Anyone in America is anti-black. It's not just immigrants. ... It's ingrained into the system of it all." – Peter Kim (30:07)

7. Open Relationships, Sex, and Queer Culture

• Discussion of sexual preferences, open relationships, and how gender affects sexual vulnerability (44:01–47:30).
• Peter: "For men, you're entering someone else's space... you don't have to be as guarded." (45:04)
• "Physical safety is such a huge thing for me." – Guest (45:35)

8. Gym Hookups & Gay Male Sexual Subculture

• Peter gives the inside scoop on LA gym/steam room culture and candidly describes how spontaneous these encounters can be (62:12–64:12).
• "Our organs are outside … if I'm hard and you're hard, we're going." (63:39)

9. Sexual Trends and New Labels

• Introduction to "sides" as a rising identification within younger queer subcultures: preferring everything but "turkey" (penetration)—just the "Thanksgiving sides" (54:45).
• "No one's having turkey. It's sides-giving." – Khalyla (54:59)
• Open discussion of sexual acts, boundaries, and learning by doing or with the help of friends/porn (58:03).

10. Sexual Preferences: Respect and Negotiation

• Dialogue about sexual acts as a matter of preference, consent, and mutual pleasure (53:20–54:05).
• "If that's the case, then okay—she better use a toy and get down there and do something." – Peter Kim (53:48)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Intergenerational Trauma & Food:
  “Painful in your bones when someone yucks your yum.” — Esther Povitsky (27:13)
  "Like, I have trauma still from being in the cafeteria and someone being like, is that baloney?" — Esther (27:15)

• On Gatekeeping Cultural Spaces:
  "If you’re there buying stuff and just getting in, getting out... fine. But if you’re the girl who treats Asian products like it’s some like, SeaWorld, Disney World—yeah, I'll side-eye the f*** out of you.” — Guest (25:03)

• On Queerness and Relationship Norms:
  "The intimacy thing, I can relate to, because for me, like, in order to really feel sexual in the moment, I need to feel safe." — Guest (45:25)
  "I want a guy that reminds me of my church bully—you know what I mean?" — Peter Kim (43:31)

• On Subcultural Gay Trends:
  "Younger Gen Z generation do not have intercourse anymore… now there's a new thing called Sides." — Peter Kim (54:34)
  "No one's having turkey. It's sides-giving." — Khalyla (54:59)

• On Public Sexual Culture Differences:
  "Our organs are outside, so there's not much communication needed. If I'm hard and you're hard, we're going.” — Peter Kim (63:39)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:18 – Live show announcement; the comfort and excitement of in-person pod community
• 02:46–03:35 – Discussing Asian ethnic distinctions; identity questions
• 05:56–07:26 – Peter Kim’s naked spa story with Bobby Lee
• 10:43–13:16 – Jules's anticipation of her first date with a woman; breakdown of LGBTQ+ labels
• 17:48–23:46 – Full breakdown and history of "H Martgate" and Asian social media drama
• 25:03–27:47 – Authenticity and respect in ethnic spaces, "yucking the yum"
• 31:32–32:29 – Peter’s family wrestles with interracial relationships and generational biases
• 44:01–47:30 – Gay vs. straight intimacy, gendered vulnerability, "church bully" crushes
• 54:34–55:34 – "Sides" as a new sexual orientation label
• 62:12–64:12 – LA gym/steam room hookup folklore revealed by Peter Kim

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Additional Highlights

• Hockey Butt vs. Donkey Booty: Running joke comparing athletic butts and fashion problems, setting a playful tone (00:00; 47:37).
• Personal Anxieties: Multiple confessions of being “triggered” or confused by familial resemblance, highlighting empathy and humor around identity (09:15).
• Peter on Open Relationships: Insights into how his and his partner’s open relationship works: "Do it with people we don't know... just not intimate dealings." (60:44)

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, irreverent, self-deprecating, and inclusive
• Open, non-judgmental discussion of sexuality, identity, family, and social controversy
• Candid, sometimes explicit, always playful (with moments of poignant vulnerability)

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For Listeners Who Haven't Tuned In

This episode is a quintessential "Trash Tuesday" ride: wild, intimate confessions; sharp, funny social observation; no-holds-barred cultural commentary; and the comfort of honest, heartfelt friendship. If you've ever wondered how Asian, queer, or internet subcultures intersect—and what it's like to process all that through trauma dumping and jokes—this is your must-listen.

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Hosts:
Khalyla Kuhn, Esther Povitsky
Guests:
Peter Kim, Rudy Jules

Check out Peter Kim: @PeterKZ on all socials and YouTube (66:09)
Catch up with future episodes and Trash Tuesday live!

Transcript

[Peter Kim]

Do you know about Hockey Butt?

[Kyla]

No, I only know you guys know about hockey.

[Peter Kim]

But similar. But Hockey butt is like donkey booty. They can't find jeans. Like it's a. Oh, my thing. Like they have to only wear apple bottoms.

[Jules]

And I saw that, I thought, like, I could eat.

[Kyla]

Klila, there's huge news in our neck of the woods.

[Guest]

What is it?

[Kyla]

We're doing a live show January 28th in Los Angeles.

[Guest]

I can't believe. I still can't believe I agreed to this. But here we are.

[Kyla]

Guys, it's on. Tickets are moving.

[Guest]

It's the only night I'll be out. I think I don't go out at night anymore. I'm doing this specifically for you guys because we haven't done this in a long time and we've booked really good special guests. Amazing guests.

[Kyla]

We have a lot planned. Our team is going to be there. If you have never been to the Comedy Store, it's definitely like a very, very special place worth seeing. And this is a great excuse to go. It's just going to be a really fun special night. It's going to be like an intimate vibe. Where going to be like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm seeing that person. That person. That person. Because we were really bringing in our regulars from the pods. It's just going to be special.

[Guest]

January 28th at the Comedy Store main room. Get your tickets at the link below.

[Kyla]

We'll see you there. Kyla, we have a Patreon.

[Guest]

I'm digging deep. I know I'm spilling some stuff.

[Kyla]

Someone is going to cut that out and post it and then we're going to have to sue them.

[Guest]

Don't do that. But yes, join us on Patreon.

[Kyla]

We really are able to get a little deeper there and just share more. You can join us at the link below patreon.com Trash Tuesday podcast. We'll see you there. And thank you so much for supporting our show. So our producers are racist. They thought you were Bobby Lee. Yeah, but you're not Bobby Lee. But I did get confused when I saw you.

[Peter Kim]

Were you freaked out?

[Kyla]

I thought it was Peter Kim, but my white eyes are confused.

[Jules]

I was confused, too.

[Kyla]

You were.

[Peter Kim]

You have Asian eyes.

[Jules]

I know. And I live with you. To mom, it's like, why is he here?

[Peter Kim]

Why is he here?

[Kyla]

Wait, so is it just. I have.

[Peter Kim]

I have the T shirt.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

The beanie. Yeah. I don't know if I have the right attitude.

[Kyla]

Do you have a good attitude? Is that what you mean?

[Peter Kim]

I have A really great attitude.

[Kyla]

Really?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

That will give. That's a dead guy.

[Peter Kim]

That's going to give it away.

[Kyla]

Yeah. Well, guys, welcome to the show. We have Peter Kim, hilarious comedian, and of course, Jules. And Kila's on her way. She's having a little bit of a migraine. Were you confused?

[Jules]

I was.

[Kyla]

Talk to me. What you thought.

[Jules]

Well, Titu Bobby left because he was like, oh, I have to leave somewhere, like, really early. And then I saw you, and I'm like, oh, that's why. Because he's. He has Trash Tuesday.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, wow. You really thought that he came early to surprise you.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

On your. On this podcast, I guess. Yeah.

[Kyla]

Are you Korean?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Okay.

[Peter Kim]

You could ask that. There was some trepidation going into that.

[Kyla]

What is the best way to ask that, though? When I meet an Asian person, I really want to know which. Which one they are.

[Peter Kim]

That's exactly how you should.

[Kyla]

Which one are you?

[Peter Kim]

Which one are you? I got it whittled down to three, but I don't want to be offensive.

[Kyla]

I would never, ever dare whittle it down to three.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, okay.

[Kyla]

There's like. Yeah. Oh, maybe five. But I'm always surprised by the answers.

[Jules]

Can you identify Asians, like, immediately?

[Peter Kim]

I think I'm, like, 88% on it.

[Kyla]

Really?

[Peter Kim]

I get it fucked up sometimes.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Especially with the Southeast Asians. Sometimes I'm like, is it Cambodia? Is the Philippines. But East Asians, I got it down.

[Jules]

I can't really. I still get confused with East Asians, especially Chinese and Korean.

[Peter Kim]

But you can call out a Japanese real quick, right?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Really?

[Jules]

Japanese and Filipinos, immediately I'm like, oh.

[Peter Kim]

Well, Filipino's your own, so I feel like that you should be good at that.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Jules]

I don't know.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. With Japanese, they just have, like, an evil about them. It's just like a simmering.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Axis of evil thing happening.

[Kyla]

I do feel that I can spot a Filipino.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

They're always singing.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. A lot of dancing.

[Kyla]

They're always working hard. Like, I. I can see them. I really don't know anything about you.

[Peter Kim]

I. Yeah, I think that's. Me neither. I don't know much about you either. I know you had a baby and you're. Are you currently pregnant?

[Kyla]

Yeah. Do you have kids?

[Peter Kim]

No, I don't, but my brother just had one.

[Kyla]

Oh, yeah. Congratulations.

[Peter Kim]

Thank you.

[Jules]

Do you ever want.

[Peter Kim]

I. I don'. To put a woman through that? Like, if I could have, like, an amniotic sack on my back. You know what I mean? And I. I think I Would carry, like, if I don't have to, like, get fat or get sick.

[Kyla]

That's, like, the nicest thing Amanda's ever said.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, really?

[Kyla]

Yeah. Although once my husband said that he would carry it if he could, and I was like, that's kind of, like, gay.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Yeah. Do you track his location?

[Kyla]

I do.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Don't worry, I do.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Kyla]

Of course I do.

[Peter Kim]

Because these men, they be stepping out. They're on the DL.

[Kyla]

So what is your relationship with Bobby, then?

[Peter Kim]

We worked together on a show that we were pitching and we developed together. And he's just like a older, way older Korean comic in the scene. And, you know, if you're a Korean and a comic, there's not much of us out there.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

So he's always been someone that I, like, looked up to and, like, really respected. And we've done Tiger Belly a few times with Jules, and first time here, longtime watcher.

[Kyla]

Wait, okay. It says Bobby took Peter to Wisps because he wants to see people naked. Oh, we spa.

[Peter Kim]

We spa. Oh, yes. Oh, wait, you guys did your research. So when Bobby and I first sold our pilot.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Which is dead now, but when we sold it to abc, he was like, we need to go to the Korean spa. And I was like. Because our show was about a Korean spa, like, people working there. And I was like, yeah, let's go. And we went into the steam room, and he was like, you. We need to be fully naked together. Because I can't work with anyone that I haven't seen naked.

[Kyla]

What? That's, like, the worst thing that you could say.

[Jules]

And you were down.

[Peter Kim]

I thought it made sense.

[Jules]

So you saw Titu. Bobby's everything.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. So have you. So the whole world has.

[Jules]

No, I think I saw his, but not his pee pee.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, that's. That soul's the better part.

[Kyla]

Yeah, I haven't, but I do know that, like, everyone has.

[Peter Kim]

But yeah, we stood there sizing each other up, and then he got angry at me. Because yours was bigger. Yeah, he liked mine better.

[Kyla]

He liked it better?

[Peter Kim]

I think he preferred it.

[Jules]

What did he say?

[Peter Kim]

I don't know if he liked it. He said. He looked at my. Oh, my God. I can't. I. I. We have actually never said this anywhere, but he. We looked at each other. He looked me up and down, and then he crouched down into a kimchi squat, and he was like, get down. And I was like, okay. So I crouched down, too. And we're both crouching on the steam room floor. And then he goes, so you think you're better than me. I was like, what? What do you mean? He was like, oh, you're bigger. You think you're better than me? I was like, bobby, what? No, that's not. And you know, I think he was joking, but maybe not. He seemed perturbed.

[Kyla]

Oh, my God. Jules, how is it going living with him lately?

[Jules]

I never see him.

[Kyla]

Really?

[Jules]

Yeah. I'm always out babysitting or, like, hanging out with friends or whatever. And Tito. Bobby is just sleeping until 4pm I don't know.

[Peter Kim]

You guys don't, like, hang?

[Jules]

We sometimes, like, we watch movies that he tells me to actually watch because I guess it's like an, like, important to watch. Like the Godfather and like, all the Quentin Tarantino movies.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God. Have you guys seen all the Quentin Tarantino stuff online?

[Jules]

What?

[Kyla]

No.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, he's like going after this actor, Paul Dano.

[Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyla]

Wait, why is that happening? Yeah, it's like, so random and weird.

[Peter Kim]

It's so weird. I'm like, what do you. Do you have beef with him?

[Kyla]

It's very strange. It's very rare that, like, someone just comes out in Hollywood is like, I think this person is really bad at what they do.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

It doesn't make sense.

[Peter Kim]

It's giving, like, scorned woman.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, what happened? Do you know Zach Woods? The comedian? Yeah, he. He's like an improv guy. He was also in the office.

[Kyla]

He's so funny.

[Peter Kim]

Super tall, dry. He came out and made a hilarious video, like, tearing Quentin Tarantino Apart.

[Kyla]

What did he say?

[Peter Kim]

He was basically saying, like, oh, no. You don't think he's a good actor? Well, you just rip off Asian cinema, which is why I was even bringing that up, because.

[Kyla]

Is that true?

[Peter Kim]

Some people think he just, like, basically rips off, like, old Japanese directors.

[Kyla]

Interesting.

[Guest]

Hey.

[Peter Kim]

Yes. My ex.

[Kyla]

Do you feel confused by anything when you look at this?

[Peter Kim]

Can I say something? Really? Can I just say something real quick?

[Guest]

You're so hot right now.

[Kyla]

This is the first time I've ever.

[Guest]

Looked at Peter Kim and said.

[Peter Kim]

Said, oh, okay, this backfired. Wait, were you confused?

[Guest]

No.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. They both came in, they were like.

[Guest]

What, for white people? Maybe.

[Kyla]

How are you?

[Guest]

I have had a three day migraine.

[Kyla]

Three day?

[Guest]

Remember I texted you. I was like, I think I'm having a brain bleed.

[Kyla]

But doesn't that, like, you need to be hit for that, right?

[Guest]

No. You can have an aneurysm. Well, you got hit. Oh, my God. I did?

[Jules]

Yeah. You were like, crying.

[Guest]

I cried. You're right. I did get hit in the head.

[Kyla]

What happened? I didn't know about this incident.

[Guest]

Something fell on my head. Okay. Aloha had put something away because the baby was trying to reach it. And it was really high up, like, by the ceiling. And he tried to retrieve it. And then I was breastfeeding the baby, and it, like, dropped on my head right here.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God.

[Kyla]

Oh, and it was so bad that you cried.

[Guest]

I cried? Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

That might be it.

[Guest]

I have a brain bleed.

[Kyla]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Guest]

I got you guys.

[Kyla]

It's too random.

[Guest]

Yeah, because the last recording we had, I. I was. I didn't even drive home. I had Aloha pick me up, but then I felt like vomiting, so maybe. Maybe not. Good things. I will get it checked. Don't worry about me. I'm fine. How are you guys?

[Peter Kim]

She starts drooling.

[Kyla]

We're not good.

[Guest]

Wait, has Jules shared. Am I allowed to share?

[Jules]

What?

[Guest]

That you're going on your first date with a girl this weekend.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, are you nervous?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Jules]

Because I just don't know how, like, am I going to be the one doing a lot? Like, I just know.

[Peter Kim]

I just listened to something about this. About women going out and figuring out if they're the stud. Yeah.

[Guest]

I don't.

[Jules]

I don't know how. I just know that. Oh, my gosh. She's just so pretty and she's so down.

[Peter Kim]

You like pretty girls?

[Jules]

I like pretty girls.

[Peter Kim]

You're the stud. Then you have to cut your hair.

[Kyla]

I like to be the pretty one, too.

[Guest]

Oh, then you're like, the princess.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, you're a stem. Then what's this I just heard about this? It's a mix between a stud and a femme. Oh, well, one's like how you dress and one's what you like in bed. Right. Like, sexually, are you guys, like, dumb or sub sexually?

[Guest]

It really depends on, like, the time.

[Peter Kim]

Verse?

[Guest]

Yeah, she's verse. I'm verse for sure.

[Peter Kim]

You're verse for sure. Oh. What about you?

[Jules]

I'm sub.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so you're femme. In bed.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

So you're looking for a stud. You're looking for someone to like.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Jules]

In bed.

[Peter Kim]

But you're attracted to pretty girls.

[Guest]

Well, it depends, because when I went.

[Jules]

To Chapel Rowan's concert, I was just like, there were so many mask women, and I was just like, oh, my God. I'm into that, too.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so you're into it all I'm into. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyla]

I have to say, your look today is, like, the perfect, like, lesbian light. And I love it. Like, this is so how I want to be. Really?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. It's giving. Boyish.

[Jules]

Thank you. I like being boy.

[Kyla]

But you still have the beautiful long hair and the lip tint. Like, it's very perfect. Very. You're hitting a sweet spot of lesbian.

[Guest]

Do you believe in, like, reactionary lesbians, as Ivy Woke calls them, where it's like, what's that? Which is basically what I became when Bobby and I broke up. I was like, oh, like, I'm so broken. Like, let's just, like, try.

[Peter Kim]

A lot of my friends go through.

[Guest]

That, but it's like, as it turns out, I'm actually not lesbian.

[Peter Kim]

You're straight, but you can appreciate.

[Guest]

Absolutely.

[Peter Kim]

That's. Yeah. That's like, college.

[Guest]

I feel that. Or, like, post breakup, anytime. We always try to be, you know, we try to consider that maybe the men thing isn't a thing working out.

[Peter Kim]

And then you found a man that wasn't Bobby.

[Guest]

Yeah. And I was like, oh, it can work out.

[Peter Kim]

Or not all the same.

[Kyla]

How did you meet this girl?

[Jules]

My friend Zach's like, pod and I just. We just clicked. And, like, it was like a dating show. And then, like, I was just like, oh, my God, this girl is so pretty. And then she asked for my number and my Instagram, and I was like, yeah, we should go on a date. And she was like, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, I love how forward she is.

[Kyla]

Oh, my God.

[Peter Kim]

I'm, like, getting.

[Guest]

I know.

[Peter Kim]

I love this.

[Jules]

But she's. Oh, my gosh, she's so pretty.

[Kyla]

What is her ethnicity?

[Jules]

I think she's Indian. I think. Yeah.

[Guest]

No.

[Kyla]

So are you not into white women the same as you're not into white men?

[Jules]

Yeah. I don't think I can do white women.

[Kyla]

But I did hear.

[Peter Kim]

I know you're taking this personally.

[Kyla]

I did hear, though, Jules, something that happened recently. I know that you went on a date with a white man.

[Guest]

And they held hands.

[Peter Kim]

What? That's so intimate.

[Jules]

Well, during I. He wanted to hold my hand, and I was like, I just don't want to be seen with a white guy. I told him that, and then he's.

[Peter Kim]

Like, the Reddit's gonna love this.

[Jules]

And then he was like, it's fine. I'm just like, I don't know.

[Guest]

Did you tell him that?

[Jules]

I told him that.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God. What did he say?

[Jules]

He was just laughing, and I'm.

[Peter Kim]

I was just, like, so funny.

[Jules]

I was like, I usually don't date. Why white women? I mean, white men. Because I literally don't find them attractive. And he was like, Laughing.

[Guest]

White men are so powerful that they just. They're just like, she doesn't know what she's talking about.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, you'll come hold my hand. They're like, patriarch has been working for thousands of years.

[Jules]

But it was so fun, though. That's why I'm like, what is happening?

[Kyla]

Wait, so were you.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. You can be like, pan or bi or whatever, right?

[Jules]

Like, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Do you feel like you have to be lesbian?

[Jules]

No, it's just the white man.

[Peter Kim]

Like, oh, I see the.

[Guest]

She just Shocked.

[Kyla]

I've always just been like, no, but that's normal. Where it's like, oh, certain people are not your type. But then there's like an outlier and it, like, works. Yeah.

[Jules]

And I guess because he was. He's like a surfer. So I'm just like, that's so hot.

[Kyla]

How did you meet him?

[Jules]

I met him in June this summer.

[Kyla]

Oh, that guy.

[Jules]

That guy.

[Kyla]

Are you going to see him again?

[Jules]

Yeah, if I go back. We've been texting too.

[Peter Kim]

This is a special white boy. Yeah. Okay, I like that. What kind of white are you?

[Kyla]

I'm half Jewish, half finish. So I'm like the white Finland.

[Peter Kim]

Having an issue right now with.

[Kyla]

What's our issue?

[Peter Kim]

Oh, you haven't seen this? The Finnish government doing this.

[Guest]

Oh, yeah. Wait, what? But they've been doing that for a long time.

[Peter Kim]

You're right. We should get over it.

[Guest]

I mean, it's. It's more like that. Those European countries, like, they are so into that with the Asians. I'm like, what the are you guys doing?

[Peter Kim]

Their eyes are so big. They're like, how do they get it so small. But it's interesting because now it's like Korea and all the East Asians are like, like, the. The countries are like, reacting to it now and being like, what the.

[Kyla]

What did they do, you guys?

[Peter Kim]

They did the eye thing, like.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

On a zoom. I think they were, like, talking on some kind of. And they literally just went like that to describe Asians.

[Guest]

But, you know, that is like. But that's the thing. In those countries, it is very unfortunately acceptable culturally to do that. And they don't find that racist.

[Peter Kim]

I mean, it wasn't racist here until, like, the 80s.

[Guest]

But the 80s is, what, 40 years ago now?

[Peter Kim]

When I was born, it was still, like, Long Duk Dong was happening.

[Guest]

Yeah, yeah. You remember from Sixteen Candles Candles, we all. We always know the Asian guy in movies because, like, it mattered to us.

[Peter Kim]

I was always watching, going like, don't this up.

[Kyla]

We. And then someone said, there's like some Asian TikTok drama.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Wait, is this where like that one girl who said she doesn't like white people in the H mart?

[Guest]

Yeah, and I'm so such a madeleine, Stan. Unfortunately.

[Peter Kim]

So I kind of popped off on H mark gate by accident.

[Guest]

Okay, which side were you on?

[Peter Kim]

Do you guys all know what's going on?

[Kyla]

Tell me everything.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so this lady Madeline, she's wagin.

[Guest]

She's waging halfway. I don't even like the way you said waitian because you're already discounting her from the Asian community.

[Peter Kim]

No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm trying to like, explain why. Oh, I see. Okay, that definitely is a third day of a migraine.

[Guest]

I'm sorry. You look too much like Bobby. I want to fight you.

[Peter Kim]

I'm triggering you.

[Guest]

Triggering me with a beanie.

[Kyla]

But because is she then is she weian.

[Guest]

I'm wean You?

[Kyla]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You're white.

[Guest]

I'm half white.

[Peter Kim]

I didn't know that.

[Guest]

Asking. God, that's like the nicest thing ever.

[Peter Kim]

I had no idea.

[Guest]

I am half white.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, okay.

[Guest]

But the meditation.

[Peter Kim]

Do you say it out loud?

[Guest]

I try not to.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, this girl's wagin. And she was. She made a like funny tik tok about like when I see a white girl at a H mart, I. I can't help but side eye her. And then I realized, like, she's also wagin and we're both like. Like you're, you know, it's like it was all about like the identity of like not passing as Asian or whatever. So that was the original thing. And it had. It actually has nothing to do with what's going on now. What's going on now?

[Guest]

It spiraled into.

[Kyla]

Oh, I'm not caught up.

[Guest]

Okay, so basically what people did with poor Madeline. Madeline. Madeline, yeah, Madeline. Chinese white, by the way, why does that matter?

[Peter Kim]

It matters.

[Guest]

It matters.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, the Koreans, of course this up.

[Guest]

Again because Madeline, they took a portion of her video. They actually didn't watch the whole thing where at the very end she's like, oh, you're Asian.

[Peter Kim]

Exactly.

[Guest]

They took a snippet of it where all they cared about was that she side eyed this white woman.

[Kyla]

Right. That is the only part I've heard.

[Guest]

Right. And so then you had Sujiya.

[Peter Kim]

Sujiya, Sketchy sketch. And the Korean.

[Guest]

Korean vegan.

[Peter Kim]

So the giant influencers, like millions and millions and millions of followers. Korean, Korean. All Korean, but a very specific type of Korean.

[Guest]

And the older generation of like exilenials. Yeah. Slightly on the white apologist side of things.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. They were very much like, how dare you make this white girl feel uncomfortable. And then the lower tier scrappy Asians, other scrappy Asians and Koreans. I like your funny on me. And all these other people came after those mega influencers and say, you, why are you coming after this Asian girl and making her apologize for white people being in our space? And then they started making apology videos. And then the apology videos were basically like, sorry if you were offended. And then they were like, you. And that's when it blew up. When the apology videos did not land.

[Guest]

They did not land.

[Peter Kim]

This started in September. It's December.

[Guest]

And then by the way, what made it even worse is that Ed and it posted an unedited apology.

[Peter Kim]

So it was crazy.

[Guest]

It was. He accidentally posted one that where he was like. What was the thing he kept repeating?

[Peter Kim]

He was like, I'm sorry if you are. Oh no, I. I'm apologizing now. And you know, if you are offended by the like. And then. So he forgot to post the edited one. He posted the unedited. I know.

[Guest]

Nightmare. I feel, I do feel bad for that part because I was like, o yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Cuz we've all had that.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

Like if I had my drafts go like published, I would be. I'm not. I can't get cancel. I'm not famous. But like they wouldn't even let me even become famous. There'd be like a stop gap. Anyway, so like all of this happened into like fall and winter and then Black TikTok found out about it and they. Have you seen this? Like six months ago? The Ginger Black Tick Tock collaboration.

[Kyla]

Yes. I accidentally fell into Black Tick Tock and they are burning me for not changing my sheets.

[Guest]

Well deserved.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, what do you mean you don't change?

[Kyla]

No, I had bloody sheets and I sleep on them and they found out.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, what you mean? What you mean? Why are they bl. From your menstrual?

[Kyla]

From me? My husband scratching his legs off. Did you know, Kalila, did you know that this landed on blacktop?

[Guest]

Oh, I was.

[Peter Kim]

I did not. It landed.

[Guest]

Was hoping it would.

[Peter Kim]

I was hoping.

[Kyla]

It's crazy. Honestly.

[Guest]

This isn't the first time she's landed on Black Talk.

[Kyla]

Like.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, really?

[Guest]

Yeah. She's always getting yelled at by the black community.

[Kyla]

Yeah, no, I'm a fixture over there. I'm very important.

[Peter Kim]

I love that. Wait, I'm going to search for you.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Peter Kim]

I love them personally.

[Kyla]

Like they're funny yeah.

[Guest]

There's the way they make fun of me.

[Kyla]

I'm like, I love you guys. Keep it coming.

[Peter Kim]

It's like any comedy, like, black comedy is the funniest.

[Guest]

The funniest.

[Peter Kim]

It's like black people make the culture. I would say we just, like, adopt it.

[Guest]

For me, Filipino and black. Top tier. God tier.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Guest]

In terms of funny.

[Peter Kim]

Well, I watch a lot of Korean.

[Jules]

Well, Black Tick Tock. Like, they've discovered Seafood City and how.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Jules]

Buddhots and like, dancing. Like, I want to go. And I'm like, yeah, that's how Filipinos.

[Peter Kim]

So that's part of H Martgate now We.

[Kyla]

Okay, so sorry. I want you to pick up where you left off.

[Peter Kim]

Sorry. I'll wrap this up. It's so long.

[Kyla]

No, no, no. Do not wrap it up.

[Peter Kim]

So I got involved when Black T getting involved. Because I started watching Black Tick Tockers that I follow, like, talk about Asians fighting. And they're like, girl, they're fighting and they're just, like, watching, like, me minding my business, you know, like, it was very six months ago. Ginger Gate.

[Kyla]

What was like, the take on that?

[Peter Kim]

The Ginger Gate?

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, oh, hello, fellow black people. Did you know that gingers are the black people of whites? Like, they're getting discriminated against. And there's all this history.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Because a lot of these Tick Tock stickers, Tick Tockers are going up and like, basically giving, like, mini lectures. So people are finding out about the historical context of hate and discrimination between these, like, intra white whatever. Right. So now they're finding out about the intra Asian, and they're like, whoa, they're fighting. Look at them. Because they. Not they, but like, like, Black Tick Tock was looking at Asian Tick Tock as a monolith. Like, a lot of us look at everything as well because that's just how media is. But now they're going, whoa, did you know there's like the, you know, Asians who are like this and Asians who are like that and blah blah. And Seafood City versus H Mart versus 99 Ranch. It's all, like, owned by different ethnicities of Asians, not just Asian.

[Kyla]

Right.

[Peter Kim]

Because it's such a huge thing. And so I went on and I was like, all right, well, now Black Tick Tock's talking about it. I gotta address it. And I made this, like, dumb thing about, like, not all Asians are raised the same in America. Like, some of us are, like, grew up around Asians, others grew up around whites. Other grew up around, like, Black, black people, brown people. And like, it's just like our. We're culturally, like educated differently.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

We have our own people who like, are white adjacent and need to apologize for whites. And we call them Uncle Tams. And they went crazy over Uncle Tam. Now there is a part two happening where this other girl started saying, hey, you black. Tick tock. Oh, don't be up in our business. This is our business. You don't like the like it when we're in your so like crazy. And now other Asian tech talkers like you for being anti black. You're just like these people who are blah, blah, so like, it's infighting that other people are watching and just eating popcorn and having a great time. And for the first time in a while, like, white people are not involved in the fight. Like, they're not the issue in the fight.

[Kyla]

I gotta step in. This is my moment. Let's go back to the original complaint. Complaint.

[Guest]

Even though it wasn't a complaint.

[Kyla]

Even though it wasn't. But what is the appropriate take here? Like, is it okay for. Do you like seeing a white person at H Mart or do you not like it?

[Guest]

It depends. It depends on there's so many things. It's like, are you there on a coffee date with your homegirl, walking the aisles and not supporting the business because you think you're you? It's like a zoo to you. Like, oh, my God, look at this. Making fun of things around, like treating it as some, like, novel thing versus just buying groceries. Yeah, I'll slide eye the out of you. I'm like, what the are you doing here? But if you're there buying Bulldog. If you're there buying stuff and just getting in, getting out, it's the same way I go to, you know, Ranch 19 or wherever the hell. And I'm not asking people, what is this? Can you explain these things to me? No, I get, I go in, I get the out. And I'm not bothering anyone. I'm supporting the business. If you are that person. No, you can be in any space. But if you're the girl who treats Asian products like it's some like, SeaWorld, Disney World.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God, they're in the tanks. Yeah, like, look at that fish. I. It's the same thing as, like, when gays are like, ugh, we don't want girls in the club. Like, stop bringing, like, stop being in the gay clubs. That's our space. I don't agree with that, but I do hate seeing a bachelorette party.

[Guest]

I. I see you know what I mean?

[Peter Kim]

So it's kind of like you just have to enter with respect.

[Kyla]

But the things that you guys are explaining, like, I feel that. I agree with that in general too. Like about anything, anywhere. Yeah, there's a. It's like doing a stand up show. It's like a bachelorette party is gonna probably be so annoying and ruin to be about them.

[Guest]

One of us, you know, a hidden pain that I think we never just talked about is like people like yucking our yums. Like for me growing up, like, I dated a white guy where anytime I would have Filipino food or cooking, whether it was adobo or, you know, in an unan or whatever, it was like, oh, what is that? And that type of. I was dating this person, I was like 17, like, who knows? You know what I mean?

[Peter Kim]

It's like you just wanted to be like, yeah.

[Guest]

And it's like those things accumulate in your bones, or at least in mine. So by the time I'm 40, like, I am like hyper defensive when someone is trying to kind of point out things like that where I'm like, okay, ew, like get out of here.

[Kyla]

Painful in your bones when someone yucks your yum. Yeah, Like I have trauma still from like being in the cafeteria and someone being like, is that baloney? Even though I am, even though I am disgusted myself now, but I'm like, oh my God, like I'm eating baloney. I'm so disgusting.

[Peter Kim]

And then like, what was your like, minority group poor? Because I attached to that, by the way.

[Guest]

I'm done with this baloney slander. I think baloney is just fine.

[Peter Kim]

I think it's good if it's mortadella.

[Guest]

Because it is mortadella.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. But we're talking about Oscar Meyer.

[Kyla]

Yeah, we were talking Oscar.

[Peter Kim]

No, have you heard about the Campbell soup? Speaking of poor.

[Guest]

I don't. I haven't heard. You haven't heard about this?

[Kyla]

No.

[Peter Kim]

So one of their, like the highest marketing executives or some kind of executive, like CEO or whatever, was caught on a hot mic saying like, ill, I would never eat our chicken noodle soup. That shit's for poor people. And then some people were like, hahaha, just laughing along. And then he goes, yeah, I'm not putting 3D printed chicken into my body. And now we all found out that they have 3D printed chicken. We would have never known.

[Kyla]

What does that even mean?

[Peter Kim]

Like, it's not real me.

[Kyla]

Is that that? Is that. Guys, is that true?

[Peter Kim]

That's what the he said on a hot mic. So it has to be true.

[Kyla]

Oh, my.

[Guest]

What was he doing with a hot mic on him?

[Peter Kim]

He was probably being interviewed or something. And then like, oh, my God, what a dumb ass.

[Kyla]

What? What do they do? It seems like there's no repercussions, like, because I. I saw the headlines and I'm like, is Campbell's suit big enough that this doesn't even matter?

[Peter Kim]

Yes. Yeah. And there's enough poor people that'll buy, like, like, all right, 3D printed meat.

[Guest]

Who cares?

[Kyla]

My husband tastes just fine to me.

[Peter Kim]

I mean, that was. That's their version, like this generation's version of Oscar Meyer baloney.

[Kyla]

Yeah. My husband still buys Campbell's soup, and I am like, I always feel a little off about it.

[Peter Kim]

No, we need to move on to Progresso.

[Kyla]

Progresso.

[Guest]

I feel like Progresso is only maybe one half a notch higher.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. Are we trying to get better or not? Are we growing and learning?

[Kyla]

What about Amy's?

[Guest]

Amy's is a little bit better.

[Kyla]

Maybe all can soup, though.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, anything.

[Guest]

I guess the mushroom bisque. Amy's is really good, though. Please don't tell me that's like fake 3D printed mushrooms.

[Kyla]

No, Amy's would never 3D print. Right.

[Guest]

So what's the. I mean, what is the conclusion with H. Marketgate?

[Peter Kim]

And it continues now. It's like part two is dying down because the anti blackness thing has now, like, died down into, like, it ends Christmas time. People are like, let's turn off tick tock for a second.

[Kyla]

Let's take a break.

[Guest]

But I. I do think that the black community has a very fair argument in that, that a lot of. Again, some. I will. I will say a lot. A lot of Asians do are anti black, especially older generation. You know, we've.

[Peter Kim]

Well, that's. Any. Anyone in America is anti black. It's not just immigrants. It's like anyone who lives in this country, it's ingrained into the sixth system of it all. Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Anti blackness is not just America. It's like all over the world.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, it's why we have colorism in Korea, like, or anything.

[Guest]

It's why we have colorism in the Philippines.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Guest]

It's why there's colorism between Koreans and Filipinos. Right.

[Peter Kim]

It's an idea of just like the outside people versus inside people. It's just class at the end of the day.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I just had a neph. I had a nephew. My nephew was just born Tuesday.

[Guest]

Oh, my God. I know.

[Peter Kim]

A little baby. He came six weeks early.

[Kyla]

Oh, how did they do that.

[Peter Kim]

Four pounds, nine ounces. Tiny. But I was joking about how this all happened very quick. And my bro. This is my brother's baby mama. And my brother is the golden boy of the family. He's, like, tall, rich, straight. He doesn't do comedy. Like, he's the fake. And then recently, he was like. He came to me. He was like, oh, I'm dating a new girl. I want your help to introduce her to mom. And I was like, why do you need my help? You've never needed my help before. It's like, well, she's not Korean. And I don't know if you know. You probably know this from them. Like, Koreans.

[Guest]

Oof.

[Peter Kim]

I wouldn't say my mom is racist, but she definitely has preferences. And she hates other Asians, especially Chinese and Japanese. Like, she will talk shit about any Japanese person she sees. And I get it. Like, they were our colonizers. So, like, there's a little bit of, like, yeah, we get it. So, like, I let it pass a lot. Probably too much anyway, so I was like, oh, my God, is she Chinese or Japanese? Like, mom's gonna freak. But inside, I'm just like.

[Guest]

Golden boy no more.

[Peter Kim]

Because, you know, I'm the gay that's broke and doing comedy. So, like, I had never have a chance. I'm like, this is my chance. And I was like, what is she? What kind of Asian? And he goes, she's not Asian at all. But even worse, she just had a boy.

[Guest]

Oh, huge.

[Peter Kim]

And her only grandson.

[Guest]

Yeah, huge. She's back in.

[Peter Kim]

So she's forgiven everything.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Well, did. How did she react at first? Was she.

[Peter Kim]

She was shocked. She was like, what the. And I was like, yeah, I can't believe he's doing that.

[Kyla]

I love, like, teaming up with my mom against my sister, even though I have no. Like, yeah. I'm just like, yeah, she's awful.

[Peter Kim]

Yes.

[Kyla]

You shouldn't talk to her anymore.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, how many siblings do you have?

[Kyla]

I just have one older sister.

[Peter Kim]

How much older?

[Kyla]

Eight years. So it's kind of.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, me and my brother, seven.

[Kyla]

Really? Yeah.

[Guest]

Did you feel like the only child, too?

[Peter Kim]

I was the only child for a while.

[Kyla]

Oh, you're older.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And just you two?

[Peter Kim]

No, I have a third one, but he's even younger than him. But it was me by myself for seven years, and then he came along, and I was like, what the. Like, what do you mean? Why is this here?

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

And I had to share everything after that. I think that's why I turned gay, because I was like, turned.

[Kyla]

Okay.

[Peter Kim]

You're not gonna take all the attention.

[Guest]

Well, how does your mom feel about you marrying a white man?

[Peter Kim]

She doesn't like it, but she still doesn't call him.

[Kyla]

Are you engaged?

[Peter Kim]

We're dp. Domestic partner.

[Kyla]

Oh, okay.

[Guest]

He is obnoxiously good looking.

[Peter Kim]

He is good looking. I know it's not my type.

[Guest]

Usually look obnoxiously good looking or just.

[Peter Kim]

Good looking at all. I usually go for uggos who are funny. No, but he's funny and gorgeous. He has no money drive, which is the biggest issue in my house. Like, he is very, like, I want to be a high school teacher. I'm like, I find that, like, I'm so driven. I'm from New York on, and I'm a immigrant kid. So, like, all I think about is, like, money, success, money, success and that he's like, so opposite of that. It really is like a big contention in our home.

[Kyla]

It's almost like such a big. It's like. Like having different religions or something. Truly, like, the way you feel about money is, like, so intense.

[Guest]

But I imagine he's happier than you.

[Kyla]

Yeah, for sure.

[Peter Kim]

Who needs that?

[Kyla]

And it is always good to have that balance. Because if it's like two of you in, like, the money rat race, that could be, like, stressful.

[Peter Kim]

Are you guys balanced? Are you the same?

[Kyla]

We both are workers, but we. We were so different about every. Like, we're just. I don't know, like, we're similar in, like, some really big things and then we're just. I don't know. I feel like everything I say and Dave, my husband's just like, you're the weirdest person I've ever met. Like, I don't understand it. He just always is reacting to me like that.

[Peter Kim]

Like, you're an alien. Yeah, that's how my guy reacts to me. He's like, what?

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, we were in the car yesterday and I said something out of pocket. I don't even know what I said because I just, like, ran. I just ramble out of pocket it. And he's just like, why does your brain work like that? Like, that's not normal. And I was like, I told you I should be tested for autism. Like, I asked that.

[Kyla]

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Ugh.

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[Peter Kim]

I want to go to Korea and hook up with a hot Korean guy.

[Guest]

What kind? Because, like, I really need to know. Because, like, is it the super soft pretty face?

[Peter Kim]

No, I don't care about the pretty face. No. I just want a guy that reminds me of my church bully. You know what I mean? Like the guy who's like the praise leader but doesn't play guitar.

[Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, you don't even know how to play an instrument, but you're being so hot and mean.

[Guest]

But the priest leaders were really all the rage. Right?

[Peter Kim]

Like, they were just like depleted khakis.

[Guest]

Okay, I need to know your specific type. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Type to hook up with or to date. That's too different for me.

[Guest]

Let's start with to hook up with any man.

[Peter Kim]

No, I, I do have a type. It's usually older, kind of mean. Kind of like my dad. I want to like my dad, but date my mom.

[Guest]

Oh, that's so deep. I can't even like, I can't even like, touch that.

[Kyla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Not as like them. Their personalities.

[Guest]

Their personalities. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever talk about being in like an open relationship and stuff?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Why do you feel as though it's such a taboo in hetero relationships, but so just calm, cool and chill in gay relationships or specifically male gay relationships?

[Peter Kim]

And this is a generalization, but I. It is generally true. I think for most men we would like to engage in intercourse in a non intimate way, but I think most women want to engage in it in an intimate way as a verse. Bottom, I would say, and I want to ask you, like, what are you top of autumn when you date girls? You said sub, so. But I understand that, like, there's a foreign body entering my body.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Ergo, I'm already physically vulnerable, so I have to be like, emotionally a little more safe. Right. Or guarded or like taken care of. For men, you're entering someone else's space usually. So you, you're not as. You don't have to be as guarded.

[Guest]

The intimacy thing I can relate to because for me, like, like, in order for me to really feel like sexual in the moment, I need to feel safe.

[Peter Kim]

Right.

[Guest]

Like, physical safety is such a huge thing for me.

[Peter Kim]

Right. And I Think men literally never think about physical safety.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Wow.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Ever.

[Kyla]

What?

[Guest]

And so for me to feel physically safe, there needs to be that level of intimacy. Like, do you actually like me as a person? You know, is there like a real connection here? Like, there's more tied into. I mean, I guess I. Again, I'm just basing it off of how I feel. But I know, you know, some friends of mine who really can have, like, consensual sex and kind of just like leave it there and never, like, revisit it.

[Peter Kim]

Right. And they probably feel empowered.

[Guest]

Yeah, they do.

[Peter Kim]

That's great.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

And that's how it should be.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

But I think just like, historically it hasn't been so. Like, I get why hetero relationships are. It's harder for two men. Like, I'd rather someone that I do not know know. I find it icky. Like, I'm not a gays gay, I'm a girl. You know the gays gay girls, gay conversation.

[Kyla]

No.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so heated rivalry. Do you guys watch it?

[Kyla]

No, but I guess we know, apparently.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God, girls, this is a Canadian.

[Guest]

I'm watching episode one.

[Jules]

Episode.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God, is this the hockey team?

[Guest]

The Canadian? Yes.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so a gay woman wrote the book and then a gay man adapted it and directed it. So it's like all the emotional resonance of sapphic, like, women.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, but in hot male bodies. He lives in West Hollywood, so this is so weird because he's only miles away. But there is a. There's two main characters, Ilya and Shane. Shane is half Chinese, half white, so it's like an Asian gay representation. So it's like, amazing. And then Ilya is Russian, but he's played by an American. But he. They. In episode one, they show them in the showers looking at each other from behind. You're, like, giggling so hard.

[Jules]

So cute, so good.

[Peter Kim]

And then it's just their butts. Yeah, it's them showing their buds. Do you know about hockey butt?

[Kyla]

No.

[Guest]

You guys know about hockey butt? I like baseball, but yeah, similar.

[Peter Kim]

But hockey butt is like, like donkey booty where, like tabletop. They can't find jeans. Like, it's a known thing. Like, they have to only wear apple bottoms.

[Jules]

When I saw that, when I saw that, I thought, like, I could eat ass.

[Peter Kim]

I would eat that.

[Jules]

I would be so down to eat ass.

[Peter Kim]

I want to eat all of that.

[Kyla]

Like a gay man's ass.

[Jules]

Yeah. When I saw those two butts, those.

[Peter Kim]

Butts were like cakes. Like, is it cake? Yeah, it's cakes. It's the most erotic male on male TV I've seen ever. And there's a lot of like, discussion about, like, are you a girl's gay or gays gay.

[Kyla]

Okay, what's that?

[Peter Kim]

A girl's gay loves this. A gay's gay does not. Because a gays gay is looking at this and going, that's not our experience. We just. We fuck indiscriminately and there's no romance in our experience. And gays. Gays are gays that only hang out with other gays or mostly and get girls. Gays are like me. I only hang out with girls because I don't trust men writ large. So there's a huge uproar happening on Tick Tock right now between the gay divisions, saying a lot about like, misogyny and like, how gays. Gays can't stand women. There's a. They're the ones. I do.

[Guest]

We have talked about this and it. Nothing pisses me off. Off more than the whole. Ew. A crazy. Because I'm like, what?

[Peter Kim]

That's misogyny. Just with a lisp?

[Guest]

Exactly.

[Peter Kim]

It's crazy.

[Guest]

It doesn't excuse anything. Like, that is straight up misogyny.

[Peter Kim]

You're just turning around and like, hurt people. Hurt people. Like, that's so.

[Kyla]

It's like, I thought that was acceptable, but then Clayton was explaining to me, he's like, no, because he's gay. He's like, no, a woman's vagina is beautiful.

[Peter Kim]

Like, yes. That's why a lot of gay men in West Hollywood like, or the like, gay congregation gays, like, where they all are in gay neighborhoods. They want to be around other men because they act like straight men. They just want to each other. It's like, ill. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying no to the whole Damn. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I'm trans, but, like, inside I'm a woman. Like, I like being a man, but there's nothing about the inside of a man that like, represents me.

[Kyla]

I love that.

[Peter Kim]

You know what I mean? I'm just like, ill. You're.

[Kyla]

Will you come home with me? I love you. I love everything.

[Jules]

You're the best.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, wait, so tell me about what when you're.

[Jules]

I've never had any experience with a girl. It's always just been men.

[Guest]

Are you scared?

[Peter Kim]

Never hooked up.

[Guest]

Okay. What? Yeah. You've never.

[Peter Kim]

So excited for you.

[Guest]

But what happens then? Like, are you going to, like, what's the plan? That's what I'm saying.

[Jules]

I Don't know. And I asked.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, do you watch porn?

[Jules]

Yeah, girl on girl.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so what do you like?

[Jules]

Anything?

[Guest]

I like.

[Jules]

I always put Latina.

[Peter Kim]

No, that's not what I meant. No, I mean, like when you're watch. Do you guys watch girl on girl?

[Guest]

Latino big.

[Peter Kim]

That's so funny. Big booty, Latina, hair laid. No, that's not what I'm asking. I mean, like when you're watching you put it. Yeah.

[Guest]

What?

[Jules]

Just like big butts, Latina and.

[Peter Kim]

Okay, so. Yeah, you want to be eating ass?

[Jules]

I guess I just like.

[Guest]

Wait, this girl that you're going out with, is she. Is she like. Has she been a lesbian for a while or she been by for a while?

[Jules]

I think by for a while.

[Guest]

But so she's had experiences. So this. And she knows that you've never had experiences.

[Jules]

She doesn't know that.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, okay. That's better.

[Guest]

That's better.

[Peter Kim]

You never want to go and being like, it's my favorite.

[Kyla]

No, that's me.

[Peter Kim]

No.

[Kyla]

Okay, just pretend.

[Peter Kim]

Just pretend. And watch a lot of porn. Porn. But I just.

[Guest]

But also I don't know how to eat.

[Jules]

So I'm just like, what am I gonna do?

[Peter Kim]

There's not much to know. It's just like.

[Kyla]

And I feel like my tongue.

[Guest]

My.

[Jules]

My tongue can't like just do it all the time for like five minutes. It's not.

[Guest]

I mean, it's like if you're trying to really go tongue heavy, it's a mistake already. You're already doing it wrong.

[Kyla]

Wait.

[Peter Kim]

What do you mean, wait? That's so cute.

[Guest]

It's just you, you know, it's the clitoris. Doesn't need a lot of pressure.

[Kyla]

I think you're right, though. I don't know how people do it.

[Guest]

Me neither. I don't know.

[Peter Kim]

Do a lot of work. But I think blow jobs are easier. I've done both. I'm not a golden gay. And I think blow jobs are easier. I'm not a Gold gang.

[Guest]

Disappointing. I don't want to be your friend anymore. Gross.

[Peter Kim]

But that's how I knew. I guess I had to like, really prove it to myself.

[Guest]

But you think that blowjobs are easier.

[Peter Kim]

Way easier. Because it's just like, a penis is not that complicated.

[Kyla]

But let's also like, like, call this out. You are gay, so you would definitely prefer.

[Peter Kim]

No, no, I do prefer penises. But like, I also. Yeah, you're right.

[Kyla]

But physically. No, I do. I.

[Peter Kim]

Because there are straight men who are like, No, I know what it's like. And I could do it. Well, yeah.

[Guest]

I have a question for you guys. Do you think that it is acceptable for a man to say, hey, actually, you know what? I am very attracted to women. I do like sex. It's like, you know, eating a is just not my most favorite thing to do and I prefer not to.

[Peter Kim]

That's so I don't think that's.

[Guest]

It's of it all. I mean, because I have come across those types and it's more of like a sensory issue for them.

[Peter Kim]

What do you mean they don't like.

[Guest]

No, I. I swear. They swear they're not. They swear. It's just like it's not a preference in the same way that a women. A woman is like, hey, I actually don't like giving blow jobs at all. It, like I'm.

[Peter Kim]

I mean, of course, like it's. It's a chore like it. But like you're trying to pleasure the person.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

I don't know. Like it's in a part and parcel of the whole thing.

[Guest]

Like, I think so. But I'm trying to be as open mind as possible to like people who have like food aversions. Like in that realm of like, I'm trying to say that if we allow people to have preferences around like sensory experiences. Right. Because they're very sensitive to like wool. Like, I don't, I don't wear wool or I don't like things like, can we be open to the idea that like even in.

[Peter Kim]

She better use a toy and get down there and do something?

[Guest]

I think so too, by the way. I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, if, if that's the case, then okay.

[Guest]

For me, it's like, it's okay, but you still have to prioritize. Like my pleasure. So it's like, let's find a way around this. If this is something you're just like, you know, you short circuit around the idea.

[Kyla]

I think that's fair.

[Peter Kim]

That's fair. But if that's like your favorite thing to do or get done, then that's going to be tough.

[Guest]

It is. Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Right. So I love side doing side stuff more than anything else. Else.

[Guest]

What's side stuff?

[Kyla]

Like laying on your side.

[Guest]

Yeah, I was like, me too. I'm so lazy. I just go on my side.

[Kyla]

What side stuff?

[Peter Kim]

You guys are so cute. I love this. Okay. In the gay community now there's a new, you know, there's like tops, bottoms, verse.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Yes.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. But now the younger Gen Z generation do not have intercourse anymore. Just gay sex or bi, whatever. So now there's a new thing coming out called Psych Sides.

[Kyla]

Like Thanksgiving sides.

[Peter Kim]

Wait, what?

[Guest]

Well, like we said, Thanksgiving sides.

[Kyla]

Like on Thanksgiving, like, if the turkey is the sex.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, that's actually really astute. Something like that. Yeah. Like, no one's having turkey.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Guest]

No one's getting the full show.

[Peter Kim]

Like, it's getting sides giving.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

Is that kind of.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, it's like. That's really good. It's basically like stuff. Oral, foot stuff. Stuff.

[Guest]

If you needed to understand anything related back to food.

[Kyla]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Sides Queen.

[Guest]

Okay, so it's. So what is it? What are the sides?

[Peter Kim]

It's like mouth stuff, foot stuff, hands to any. Anything besides like, PV or pa. Mormon, basically.

[Kyla]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

It's like going back to kind of like, hey, maybe we're in, like, middle school and we're rounding the bases.

[Guest]

Okay. Dry humping.

[Peter Kim]

Because I think for gays especially, there's a lot that goes into gay coitus, if you will. Like, you know, it's like you guys having anal. Like, you can't just have it.

[Guest]

No. I took an Ambien the first time I tried. I had to exist on a different planet, take myself to a different universe.

[Peter Kim]

No. Why?

[Guest]

Because it was like, I'm not doing this, like, sober. What the.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, my God.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

You're like, you can have. Do what you want with my body.

[Guest]

I may or may not be here, but do what you want.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. So I think that's like, growing now, that gen like that group.

[Guest]

I think it's cute.

[Jules]

I like it.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, I like it too, because you can get off a lot of ways. You don't have to hump.

[Guest]

I'm into sides.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Guest]

I'm into nothing right now.

[Jules]

Are you?

[Peter Kim]

Are you?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Like, taking a break.

[Guest]

I'm taking a break from any.

[Kyla]

And I'm just growing a baby and I'm just.

[Peter Kim]

They same. Pregnant women get horny.

[Guest]

That was so horny. It was so bad. Yeah, it was so bad.

[Kyla]

Not me.

[Peter Kim]

Not you.

[Kyla]

No.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, you don't want to be touched.

[Kyla]

This is a tough time. I don't understand that. You had horniness.

[Guest]

I didn't understand it either. It was really. I was like, I'm so uncomfortable, but, like, there was so much blood flow that, like, your only thought is to, like, do stuff. And, like, my poor partner, like, he didn't want to necessarily because I was so big already. And that's. That's what I thought sides meant. So I'm like, oh, let's tip you like a cow on your side. Because I was Too big for any other, you know?

[Kyla]

Right. Yeah.

[Guest]

And he would, like, did you want.

[Peter Kim]

Intercourse or just, like, stimulation?

[Guest]

I think it's just a stimulation. I wasn't into the kissing, but don't kiss me.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, wow.

[Guest]

We're not. Not that kind of romance.

[Peter Kim]

Sexy.

[Guest]

Very sexy. Yeah. Just tip me over, help me on my side, please put my pregnancy pillow between my legs and do whatever you.

[Kyla]

Have to do back there.

[Peter Kim]

Did you have experiences with guys?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Okay. What part of that do you want to take to the girl?

[Jules]

I don't know. I feel like I'd be down for pegging.

[Guest]

Go. Graduated so fast.

[Peter Kim]

You like the idea of, like, strapping on and, like.

[Jules]

Yeah, either way, like, me or her?

[Peter Kim]

Oh, both.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Okay.

[Jules]

Or is that. Is that's not normal?

[Peter Kim]

No, it's not about being normal. It's about, like. It's more about, like, me wondering, like, what you. I really enjoy. Yeah, that's. I think this is your 20s, right?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

This is the time to, like, learn.

[Jules]

I just know I'd be down to eat. I just gotta learn, I think.

[Peter Kim]

Just watch porn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're doing it right.

[Jules]

Porn just, like, unrealistic and, like.

[Peter Kim]

I know, but giving you kind of like a road map, I feel. And then you could, like, improvise or, like, do you have friends who would let you eat their.

[Jules]

I don't think so. I feel like my best friend. I think my best friend wouldn't let me.

[Peter Kim]

I know you don't feel horny right now, but, like, this is your friend.

[Kyla]

So weird.

[Peter Kim]

Kalila's her cousin.

[Guest]

Or there were people you could practice with, so girls I did not know. I never, like.

[Peter Kim]

Lesbian friends are like, okay, come over.

[Jules]

Like, yeah, I want to have lesbian friends.

[Peter Kim]

Wouldn't that be nice to be like, hey, practice this. Not there, but higher.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, that'd be nice. Right?

[Jules]

So you have friends that you can just, like, practice on?

[Peter Kim]

No, I don't have a lot of friends in general, full stop. But, like, what I was saying before, I don't like getting sexy with people. I know. I. I'm okay with making a mistake with a stranger and then him saying, ow. Not like that.

[Guest]

Wait, this is so interesting because recently I've come across across a girl who's sort of in the outer concentric circles. I mean, I know her, she's an acquaintance, but she really has a thing for homie hopping. Like, the last three, four guys that she's dated have all been, like, acquaintances of each other. And I wonder if that's a kink. Like, because for me, if, if I dated Bobby, you better believe the next guy will be from a different planet. Like, he. He is not in his 20th outer concentric ring of friends. Like, I. He is so far on the other. I would never dip into that, like, area and because it feels so incestuous to me.

[Peter Kim]

No, I can't even think about dating within the people I know. Like, I need to like, restart my life. I need to bleach my hair, move to like Bali or something. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't think I could.

[Guest]

But do you think that that's a kink that this girl has? Because I'm like a power thing? Like, whoa. Like you have. And there's like, no shame about it. Like, they know that.

[Kyla]

I think that is sort of a common thing. Like, where. Because I've heard about this from a male comic who he has this rivalry with another male comic. And he has said to me, he's like, well, we were hooking up with the same waitress at the same time and she told me I was a better lover. So, like, I do think there's some weird little stuff happening there.

[Guest]

Yeah, I can see how it would be fun for. I guess. But this is such a young girl sport. Obviously the. This is. Maybe she's probably in her 20s or early 30s, but I couldn't imagine dealing with like, talk of it all. Like, even that comparison. I'm like, I would hate to hear reports back about anything.

[Peter Kim]

No, me and my partner, we've been open for 10 years and our whole thing is like, do it with people.

[Jules]

We don't know with open relationship.

[Kyla]

Do you ever get jealous?

[Jules]

Do you even ask if, like, we have a.

[Peter Kim]

Like, we tell each other when we want to and we keep it open for just not intimate dealings, whatever that means for me personally. Like, I'm rarely going out and having sex, but, like, will we hook up in the shower at a gym? Like, give each other hand jobs?

[Kyla]

Maybe that happens at the gym.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, Equinox.

[Kyla]

So that's.

[Guest]

Can I tell you something?

[Peter Kim]

Wait, do you know by Equinox, the solid core gate?

[Guest]

No, I know about the solid core. So I used to work. My first job in the United The States was at LA Fitness, the one on Lake Avenue in Pasadena. That was a very, like, notoriously, like, gay gym at that time.

[Kyla]

Equinox too. Were you the front desk?

[Guest]

No, I was really low level. I was 15. How old were you?

[Kyla]

Like 23.

[Guest]

I wasn't front desk. I was even worse than that.

[Peter Kim]

Were you? Oh, towel Washing.

[Guest]

I mean, possibly. I don't even want to say, but you know when they would have promos, like, I was the girl who would, like, go out there and be like, hey, LA Fitness is having a promo right now. Like, I was a promo girl.

[Peter Kim]

They didn't even let you inside the building.

[Guest]

It was so. It was really, really sad.

[Peter Kim]

Crazy.

[Guest]

But yeah, the hot gay men and the shower activity was steam room and shower. Yes. So.

[Kyla]

So that's real.

[Peter Kim]

Yes.

[Kyla]

What happens?

[Peter Kim]

Just a lot of coming.

[Kyla]

Oh, my God. The gay men were so happy when they were walking in and walking out.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. They're like, I got mine because I.

[Kyla]

Was at the West Hall, Hollywood Equinox.

[Peter Kim]

Oh, that's the one.

[Kyla]

This all went over my head. I was too busy thinking about getting smoothies.

[Guest]

But solid core, too?

[Peter Kim]

No, no, no. There's this guy, gay guy who's like, gone viral because of something with solid core. And it started with him and Equinox getting, like, eyeballed by married men. And it's a very popular thing in gyms across America. Not just Equinox, but. But allegedly. Don't sue me, Equinox. But, like, you know what's happening? You know what I mean? It's a lot. It's happening at Korean spas, too. There's Korean spas that are dedicated to gay hookups.

[Guest]

Girls, we need to step it up. Our bathrooms are so, like, PG rated.

[Peter Kim]

There's lesbian parties.

[Guest]

Right. We're too respectful. The girls, it's like, this is. We shower, we bathe, we chat.

[Kyla]

Public places are tricky.

[Guest]

Key.

[Kyla]

That's not, like, true. That's not of interest.

[Guest]

I know. And we can't just. It's harder to display. We have to splay. You know, you guys can just stand up, do things right.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You need, like a comforter. Yeah. You need a duvet.

[Kyla]

Is it someone like you're just meeting that day?

[Peter Kim]

Yeah.

[Kyla]

So fast.

[Peter Kim]

Well, our organs are outside, so it's. There's not much communication needed. Like, if I'm hard in your heart, we're going.

[Jules]

So do they just. Just like touch you immediately and you're like, okay, I'm down.

[Peter Kim]

Well, I mean, like, if. If you and I are in the steam room and it's like, steamy, right? Like, you can kind of see kind of. Not like, there's a lot of, like, burlesque around it. About, like, ooh, what's in your imagination? You know, so. And then let's say I slide open and I'm hard. And then you slide Open and you're hard and there's no one else there, then you're going for it.

[Guest]

Then you just sit next to them and.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. Jerk each other off or whatever, you know. But a lot of times it doesn't get to the finish line because there are other people walking in. Yeah, you're. You're trying to go at off hours, but that's happening in the men's side at almost every. Is. Are there any men in here? Have you ever experienced? No. Do you go to the gym? I did when I was like, in college. Yeah. Oh, that doesn't count. You.

[Kyla]

You.

[Peter Kim]

You haven't belonged to a gym as an adult. Are you interested?

[Kyla]

Did.

[Peter Kim]

I've been to a bunch of gyms and I've just never. I guess I'm just working out. I didn't think about, like, gay, straight, whatever. Like you as a person after you work out and you hit the showers. Are you horny? Yeah. You get, like, the adrenaline, all pumped up. Yeah. That's what it is. Testosterone.

[Kyla]

Running right after a workout. It's like, I want to go shopping, you know, it's not like I wanna.

[Peter Kim]

Interesting.

[Kyla]

Get jerked off. I wanna, like, go get a matcha. I wouldn't say horny.

[Peter Kim]

You want to, like, stay healthy.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

That's so interesting for men. It's physiology. Right. Like when we work out, I think there's a lot of, like, testosterone, and so we're all like.

[Guest]

It's probably just extra blood flow in general. You know, your blood is really moving.

[Peter Kim]

Yeah. It's like being pregnant for a second.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Peter Kim]

For like, you.

[Kyla]

No blood flow.

[Peter Kim]

You had no blood.

[Guest]

You know, I have pots. This is a sensitive subject. I don't have blood flow.

[Kyla]

Wait. Also, so I have, like. My feet are, like, famously, like, very pale and small and like, we. They look like a corpse. I had a. I looked at Ace. My daughter's feet the other day. I was like, oh, no, they look a little dead. I think she has my dead feet. They were so pale.

[Peter Kim]

Dead foot diva. Is it cold all the time?

[Kyla]

Not really, no. It's not even a temperature thing.

[Peter Kim]

It's just a color.

[Kyla]

You guys, we're out of time. We're gonna carry this over to the Patreon and we'll.

[Peter Kim]

We'll.

[Kyla]

We'll see you there. Thank you so much to our hilarious guest, Peter Kim. Is there anywhere we should be checking.

[Peter Kim]

You out on Peter KZ, on all the socials, YouTube and all that? And I shot an hour and I'm editing it, so it's gonna come out on my YouTube.

[Kyla]

I cannot wait to see that.

[Peter Kim]

Thank you.

[Kyla]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited for that.

[Peter Kim]

Yes.

[Kyla]

Jules.

[Jules]

Rudy.

[Guest]

Jewels.

[Kyla]

She's just jewels. You know her. We'll see you guys next week. With a ring. New episode.