Realizing You’re Not Ugly w/ Sherry Cola

Summary

Trash Tuesday Episode Summary: "Realizing You’re Not Ugly" Featuring Sherry Cola

Introduction

In the January 7, 2025 episode of Trash Tuesday titled "Realizing You’re Not Ugly," hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn are joined by comedian and actress Sherry Cola. The trio delves deep into topics surrounding self-esteem, beauty standards, personal trauma, and the journey toward self-acceptance, all while infusing their signature humor and candidness.

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Shower Culture and Everyday Habits

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted yet revealing conversation about shower etiquette. Esther initiates the discussion by questioning common hygiene practices:

• Esther Povitsky [00:00]: "The shower etiquette, it's shocking. Do you clean between your toes when...?"

Sherry responds with a comedic take, highlighting differing personal habits:

• Sherry Cola [00:07]: "You're taking a bath? You really just don't have to do these kinds of things."

This banter sets the tone for the episode, blending humor with genuine curiosity about everyday routines.

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Personal Struggles and Stress Management

Transitioning from hygiene to personal well-being, Esther shares her recent struggles:

• Esther Povitsky [04:25]: "I was having an absolute breakdown consistently this weekend."

Khalyla adds to the conversation by discussing her own challenges, creating a space for vulnerability among the hosts and guest.

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Realizing You’re Not Ugly: Sherry’s Journey with Self-Esteem

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Sherry Cola’s introspective journey towards self-acceptance. She candidly discusses her long-standing insecurities and how societal standards impacted her self-worth:

• Sherry Cola [06:24]: "It's not until I started to get older where I'm like, wait a second. I see what... I've been so insecure..."

Sherry reflects on cultural pressures, particularly within the Jewish community, that perpetuated negative self-image:

• Sherry Cola [07:32]: "Especially being Jewish. It's like everyone says, like, oh, Jewish people are ugly. Like, that was a thing that was sure. Imprinted."

Her honesty paves the way for a heartfelt exploration of beauty standards and personal growth.

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Coming Out and Embracing Queerness

Esther takes a turn to share her own experiences with coming out and the impact it had on her relationship with her parents:

• Esther Povitsky [16:40]: "I was like, okay, let me tell my mom, you know what I'm saying? Like, that this is a part of my identity to kind of spread my wings in real life."

She describes the initial shock her mother felt and the subsequent journey toward mutual understanding and acceptance:

• Esther Povitsky [20:09]: "It's not a crime, you know?"

This segment underscores the complexities of navigating personal identity within familial and societal frameworks.

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Generational Trauma and Evolving Relationships

Khalyla introduces a discussion on generational trauma and its effects on modern relationships:

• Kalilah [09:28]: "She says the problem with, like, my ex, it's my ex. ... women were told to not be too much and men were told to not be enough."

The conversation evolves into how newer generations are reshaping communication and relationship dynamics to foster healthier connections.

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Humorous Anecdotes and Everyday Misadventures

Balancing the heavy topics, the trio engages in a series of humorous stories that bring levity to the episode. Highlights include:

• Esther’s Shower Misadventure [25:33]: Esther recounts an embarrassing incident in a hotel bathroom while playing the "Wicked" soundtrack loudly.

• Banana Break [27:01]: A playful segment where Esther and Khalyla joke about banana usage and its unconventional purposes, blending absurdity with laughter.

These stories not only entertain but also illustrate the hosts' ability to find humor in everyday embarrassments.

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Reflections on Fame and Public Recognition

The conversation takes a meta turn as the hosts discuss the challenges of being recognized in public:

• Esther Povitsky [51:15]: "Sherry Cola on Instagram without the E. Still working on getting the E. Stay humble."

They share personal anecdotes about mistaken identities and the awkwardness of celebrity encounters, highlighting the intersection of personal life and public persona.

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Conclusion

"Realizing You’re Not Ugly" is a compelling episode that intertwines deep personal insights with moments of levity and humor. Esther, Khalyla, and Sherry Cola offer listeners an authentic look into their struggles with self-esteem, the journey of embracing one’s identity, and the everyday quirks that make life uniquely challenging and entertaining. This episode serves as both a mirror and a companion for anyone navigating similar paths towards self-acceptance and understanding.

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Notable Quotes

• Sherry Cola [07:09]: "It's not until I started to get older where I'm like, wait a second... I've been pretty the whole time. It's weird."

• Esther Povitsky [16:40]: "This could potentially be my wife. You know what I'm saying?"

• Kalilah [09:28]: "Women were told to not be too much and men were told to not be enough."

• Esther Povitsky [25:33]: "I'm not well. I'm not well."

• Sherry Cola [39:28]: "I have a baby. We have to stop bringing these things up."

These quotes encapsulate the blend of vulnerability, humor, and candidness that define the episode.

Transcript

[Esther Povitsky]

I have to say, shower culture. Yeah, the shower etiquette, it's shocking. Do you clean between your toes when.

[Sherry Cola]

You'Re taking a bath? You really just don't have to do these kinds of things.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, hold on. So you're telling me bath is it, you don't do it? I thought bath was just for enjoyment. It's for the actual utility.

[Sherry Cola]

People have a hard time.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm not judging, I'm simply curious.

[Sherry Cola]

I respect the judging. I don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm listening and I'm understanding. Okay, so it's a dip, it's a.

[Kalilah]

Soak, it's a soap, it's a soak.

[Esther Povitsky]

So deep. So it's a marinade?

[Sherry Cola]

It is a marination, yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wow.

[Sherry Cola]

I think if you were running the numbers, I think that this, there's an argument to be made that this is a cleaner way.

[Bobby Lee]

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[Sherry Cola]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Lee]

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[Sherry Cola]

You guys, you know her from Good Trouble, Joy Ride. Nobody wants this. She's hilarious. She's our dear, dear friend. Welcome, Sherry Cola.

[Esther Povitsky]

Dear friend. Okay, dear friend. This is a friend's giving and you've.

[Kalilah]

Always been my hair goals.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, thank you for selling, sending me things.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Esther Povitsky]

You did send me things.

[Kalilah]

Yes. I want you Emotion Club. I. I really want you to take.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm very proud of you.

[Kalilah]

Thank you, Sherry.

[Esther Povitsky]

Very, very proud of. Water has always scared me, so that's why I'm like, I. I'm living vicariously through.

[Kalilah]

Well, you guys can talk.

[Sherry Cola]

Can you swim? Because I can't swim.

[Esther Povitsky]

I can get from A to B. Do I have form?

[Kalilah]

Oh, wait, you don't need form to survive. You just need to float.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's deep, right? That was like fortune cookie.

[Kalilah]

I used to always say this when I was like deep into like my poetry and Esther hates this era of me.

[Sherry Cola]

It's really hard.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, you say, is this a past tense era or a present to bring it back, though?

[Sherry Cola]

And it's really scary.

[Kalilah]

There was a time where I literally thought I was going to be like roomy or something. Like, I thought that I was going to be a poet.

[Esther Povitsky]

Rupee.

[Kalilah]

Oh, rupee. No. Rumi is also an author, right?

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, who's the cow?

[Kalilah]

Rupee. I appear worldly Rupi is also a Instagram poet, right?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, she's also a book physical paper poet.

[Kalilah]

Okay. So there was an era that was quite embarrassing, and it was. I think it was from 15 to 23, where I literally believed, Sheri, that I was going to be a poet. And I remember, like, sharing this with Bobby later, and he was like, what is wrong with you? A poet? He's like, that's not possible. But anyways, I would. My. One of my favorite lines in one of my poems was, dead or alive, we float. And I know, Esther, that's not going to. It's a little too emo and it's making you more embarrassed to be my friend.

[Sherry Cola]

It's just so deep and it makes me uncomfortable.

[Esther Povitsky]

How about Dead or alive, we root beer float that.

[Sherry Cola]

I like merch. I've always thought a poet is just a comedian. That's even sadder than regular comedians because you're. You're one step away from a root beer float joke.

[Kalilah]

Do you think that being a comedian is.

[Esther Povitsky]

We're so close to a root beer all the time.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, you just needed.

[Kalilah]

Sherry, do you think that being a comedian is. Is sad?

[Sherry Cola]

Of course. Really? Are you telling more?

[Esther Povitsky]

Thousand percent.

[Sherry Cola]

Because it's so obvious from someone who didn't get, like, the right love, and especially now that I have a baby, I'm like, oh, my God, it's so obvious. Like, this is. It's. You're messed up if you're a comedian.

[Esther Povitsky]

So. So now that you're a mother.

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

What if your. Your baby wants to go into stand up comedy?

[Sherry Cola]

I haven't, like, crossed that bridge yet because she's only eight months.

[Esther Povitsky]

Listen, there's a gap in the market.

[Sherry Cola]

I feel that that won't happen, and if it does, I'll just have to look. I'm going to look up to her father for the answer because he was raised right and properly and he's healthy and doesn't need attention like I do. So. So whatever he says will go, like, I'm ready to be a Handmaid. Like, I will follow. I'm of David. I'll follow what he says. He will steer our family in the right direction.

[Esther Povitsky]

I respect that. First and foremost. I. Yeah, no, we're definitely sad. We're. I literally had. How many times did you cry this weekend?

[Kalilah]

Oh, my God. I'm not kidding.

[Esther Povitsky]

I was having an absolute breakdown consistently this weekend.

[Kalilah]

Oh, thank God.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. So just everything is a tantrum. Everything is. You know what I mean? I have so much to say about the parade road blockage. You know what I mean? It really triggered me. I'm also going through nicotine withdrawals.

[Kalilah]

Oh, rough. How long?

[Esther Povitsky]

Anyone? Like two days. And I bummed off of my makeup artist this morning. I'm not well. I'm not well.

[Kalilah]

This somehow makes me feel so much better. Thank you for being a nice.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't say it's a bad year. Just like daily, there are challenges, right?

[Sherry Cola]

Amen.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, once again, this is church nicotine. No, I wanted you to sit in the silence, baby. I couldn't do it.

[Kalilah]

I can't be. I can't be paralyzed and silent. It's impossible. It's hard.

[Sherry Cola]

What is your nic.

[Esther Povitsky]

Someone will call the cops.

[Sherry Cola]

Is it like. Are you analog? Cigarettes?

[Esther Povitsky]

Cigarettes.

[Sherry Cola]

That's ky for.

[Esther Povitsky]

For years and years and years and years and years.

[Kalilah]

Never int.

[Esther Povitsky]

And. And then now. Now into the vape. But the vape is tough because it. It punctuates my every move. It is on the nightstand. It is. You know what I'm saying?

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, there's no.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's liberty to the vape. That is harmful because you can do it in. In an elevator. You know what I'm saying?

[Sherry Cola]

Totally. That's how I was when I was on the weed vape. It was like, oh, this is. And the possibility. Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Wait, I. I should get you a gift.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no.

[Kalilah]

Have you heard of blip? It really, really works. So it's like an anti vaping thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't. I like the. The smoke aspect. I'm not even a public smoker, but here I am off for like, you know, 36 hours and I can talk about it.

[Sherry Cola]

You have levity.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I have overcome. But no, no, my point is we're. We're unwell.

[Kalilah]

We're unwell. Great. Great news to me. Music to my ears.

[Esther Povitsky]

You are stunning.

[Kalilah]

Thank you.

[Sherry Cola]

So are you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Let's talk about that. Because, you know, we have. We have history of rubber chicken knock knock jokes, right? Like, since birth. When did you realize you were hot?

[Sherry Cola]

Like, literally, like a few weeks ago.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, it's when I DM'd you, right? You're hot.

[Kalilah]

Isn't she? She's like, identified as, like, this like, little ugly monster her whole life.

[Esther Povitsky]

We are beautiful.

[Sherry Cola]

It's not until I started to get older where I'm like, wait a second. I see what. What's going on? Like, I've been so insecure. Solo self esteem. Solo self worth, like all my 20s. But then you're like, wait, actually, the call Is coming from inside the house. Like, I've been pretty the whole time. It's weird.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, it's the Discovery Channel. But, you know, when I looked in.

[Sherry Cola]

The mirror, why it is. It's because I, like, I'm sure you as well. Like, when I grew up, Pam Anderson was the only woman who was pretty. Like, there was no. I didn't feel like I saw, like, a short, pale skin brunette. And I know for you guys, too, like, especially, like, other races. Like, that's how I just.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

Like, especially being Jewish. It's like everyone says, like, oh, Jewish people are ugly. Like, that was a thing that was sure. Imprinted.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sure. So it's.

[Sherry Cola]

It makes sense why this is a late discovery for all of us. Except for you. No offense.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, I mean, actually, yeah, we'll get to that.

[Kalilah]

Wait a second.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait a second.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, but truly, all of my friends were just dime pieces, like in high school, so I had to lean into the personality.

[Kalilah]

Wait, were you one of those that really like to surround yourself with only pretty people?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, it just means something happened.

[Kalilah]

Oh, wow.

[Esther Povitsky]

To my disadvantage, because then I wasn't the hottest one ever. So then I had to be the one who said the darndest things.

[Sherry Cola]

You know, ugly girls say the darndest thing, you know, a new show.

[Esther Povitsky]

What is that creature making sounds in the corner? Is that a Bob hit?

[Kalilah]

Wait a second. No, no, no, no, you guys.

[Esther Povitsky]

But now we know. No, now we know. You don't need to convince us in 2024. We know that.

[Kalilah]

But remember in high school, Sherry, they used to always, like, the boys would always use the word conceited.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Kalilah]

When a girl even felt herself a little bit when we were, like, when we were having a nice, like, hair day or felt pretty, they would always be like, she's so conceited.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, what is that Gen Z version of conceited? Because I can't believe I haven't heard that word in so long.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, that is like, that was how they weaponized that against us.

[Kalilah]

Totally. And we weren't allowed to feel.

[Sherry Cola]

It was like, wait a second. Is she conceited?

[Kalilah]

You, like yourself, she's conceited.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. It was like, if you had it all going on, it's like calling you a witch. They would, like, catch you, like, oh, but she's conceited. So she's bad. That was so horrible.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, the chat.

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Kalilah]

There's a therapist I found on Tick Tock, and she's brilliant. I can't believe I just stumbled. I think her name is like Dr. Lee or something like that. She says the problem with, like, my ex, it's my ex.

[Esther Povitsky]

Bobby's a therapist.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's him. No, but she was basically breaking down the problem with, like, millennials and why our relationships tend to crumble like a couple years in. And it's because we grew up around this idea, especially for women, where women, it's like we were. We were told to not be too much and men were told to not, not be enough. So it's like fear of inadequacy for men and fear of being too much with women. And it's sort of like down the road that never works.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, you gotta, you gotta meet in the middle.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's. She does. She's much more eloquent in the way she explains it, but I'm like, oh, my God. And it's the too much thing, the conceited thing. Like, we cannot. How dare we ever, like, take up space. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know what I'm saying? I think we are learning now in this day and age to own it a little more, though. Do you agree? Especially with, like, Gen Z and Internet stuff. Like, I think it's about, you know, the brat of it all. Like, just the serving cunt of it all.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I've been studying my flashcards.

[Sherry Cola]

I think you're right. But I do think for some of us, it is really hard to unlearn certain things. And also, is human nature just, like, always gonna repeat itself in some way and, like, there's actually no way to ever fix it? I don't know.

[Kalilah]

Is that I love little baby Esther. Nihilist.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, that's good too. That's good too. And now as a mother, like, I'm learning to have conversations with my own mother. That was weird. That was almost like an announcement that I'm a mother, but I'm not. When I am Esther's mother and you are my daughter.

[Kalilah]

On my honor. But, like, how did you grow up?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, but how did I grow up? Yeah, like, no, like, how. How did you get to this?

[Kalilah]

Esther's just like, I wasn't raised well when Dave was.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

I was raised questionably as well.

[Esther Povitsky]

Same. Yeah, same, same, same. Parents not together. What I was saying, though, just. Just to close the loop on the, the original thought of, like, conversations that we didn't have with our parents. I think we are single handedly changing the narrative this generation. You know what I'm saying? Like, things. Don't you agree? Like things that you, you and your baby versus the like how we were with our parents, like, communication. No, the thing is. Eight month old.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. There's no way for me to know.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

I think that, yes, you want to, like, break whatever generational trauma that you came from or that you had, but also, I also believe, like, whatever you do to fix what was, you know, what your situation was, like, something else will come from it. There's really no.

[Kalilah]

Are you.

[Esther Povitsky]

New traumas, new dramas?

[Kalilah]

Are you saying, like, we may not know what, like, new traumas were forming, like, you know.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, because it's like, look at. Okay, just. Just let's look at some facts, right? Like, in the 70s, they put asbestos in everything. And then the 90s are like, that's gonna kill you. And then now it's like. Then they're like, we'll replace it with plastic. And then, like, now that's killing you. Like, whatever you replace anything with, we just. No one knows.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's deep.

[Sherry Cola]

And everything is bad.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's trial and error.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Forever.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. So there's really no foolproof solve. And I think, like, even just now, I mean, I don't know, there's a lot of people. I don't know. I'm getting a little confused myself. But I think that, yes, we're seeing online, like, a lot of the young women are, like, saying this and that, but I don't know what's. Where's the proof that everything's fixed?

[Kalilah]

Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

We're really breaking through. My birth father is behind this door.

[Kalilah]

Do you know? Your birth father?

[Esther Povitsky]

I do. You know, actually, no, no, my birth father. My. I have only one father.

[Kalilah]

Okay. I was like, sure, I didn' know.

[Esther Povitsky]

You were adopted, but I was, like, laughing at, like, what if I just started introducing my dad as, like, my birth father? Just the. Just a. You know, for. For press.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no. I. I grew up. Yeah. It. It wasn't perfect, for sure. It definitely wasn't perfect, but for the most part, I don't know.

[Kalilah]

Are you able to talk to your parents about, like, things you feel like they got wrong?

[Esther Povitsky]

Sometimes it's in one ear, out the other. I am learning to be more empathetic of, like, their experience because, you know, even just, like, being queer, you know, that wasn't an overnight conversation with them either.

[Kalilah]

What was that conversation like?

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, if we're really gonna fucking go for it. I was also not born here, so I'm also an immigrant. And, like, my parents being immigrants. My dad, though, like, from. From the jump, like, in 1994 when we landed on the flesh of San Gabriel Valley. He wanted to embrace America.

[Kalilah]

Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, listening to pop culture, just really consuming all of it.

[Kalilah]

It's. That's pretty common, too, for, like, immigrants to kind of just like, throw away.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sure.

[Kalilah]

Like, you know, because they want to acclimate as fast as they can. Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

Totally. Like, learn the language, etc. My mom, on the other hand, very much the classic Asian immigrant mother. Let's just survive, put food on the table, yada, yada. So they're very different, but I definitely have pieces of. Of both of them. Like, I have that dreamer mentality, like my dad, but I also have, like, the. The work ethic mentality, like my mom and. And maybe the practicality, even. But my point is, like, I, like, sexuality was not like dating wasn't even talked about at the dining table, let alone sexuality, you know? So as I. I mean, there's so much to this. I'm trying to say the. You know, the. The super cutie, quickie, microwave version. Dumb. But when I. Okay, I. I discovered that I liked women when I was, like, 20. Like, for real, for real. Maybe not even 19. Like, for real, for real. But then looking back, I'm like, oh, yeah, those overnight slumber parties, for sure. Like, that was not just bestieism. That was like, you know, breastyism, if you will. If you will. And then merch.

[Kalilah]

There's an icon in that department that you said you made your first sex tape, but with a slumber party.

[Sherry Cola]

I had a baby. We have to stop bringing these things up. We have to get them lost and confused.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, with other women? Yeah, we'll be in touch for the sequel. Have we optioned the rights of the ip? Okay, but my point is, when I. When I really started embracing being queer and all that stuff, like, my friends knew I wasn't necessarily a public figure. It was just, like. It was what it was. And then I booked Good Trouble where I was playing a queer character, and that was when I was like, okay, let me tell my mom, you know what I'm saying? Like, that this is a part of my identity to kind of spread my wings in real life. And, I mean, of course, she was just, like, shocked, which was also shocking. But clearly she wasn't growing up watching the L word. You know what I mean? Like, Jenny Schecter.

[Kalilah]

You know, Is Jenny your girl?

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Oh, my God.

[Sherry Cola]

I know. Everyone's ashamed.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, I was.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, wait, Jennifer Beals?

[Sherry Cola]

No, she was like the. The, like, girly, feminine brunette. Like, who.

[Kalilah]

Who did she date?

[Sherry Cola]

I can't remember, we are only defined.

[Esther Povitsky]

By who we dated.

[Kalilah]

The other one was. Was Shane's girlfriend, who played by Sarah Shahi. Oh, she was really beautiful. That's.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, she's.

[Esther Povitsky]

I was. I was a Jennifer Beale girly.

[Kalilah]

Oh, she's hot too. That's Beth, right?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That.

[Kalilah]

No, Beth was a blonde.

[Esther Povitsky]

No.

[Kalilah]

We're confused.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. Am I straight?

[Sherry Cola]

Breaking news.

[Esther Povitsky]

None of this trivia was successful. So I told my mom, and she was like, of course she was disappointed, you know, and surprised and didn't really know how to navigate it. And then I wasn't in a relationship enough where it was like, okay, what's the next step? You know, it was kind of like just this floaty thing. But I think even through the years, she realized that queerness was a superpower because, you know, through the craft, like, it's clear that this is who I am. I identify as bisexual. For the record. For the record. Okay.

[Kalilah]

Lots of bi erasure.

[Esther Povitsky]

Anyway. Yeah. So then now I have a girlfriend, a serious girlfriend now. It's been like two and two years and eight months, two days. Who's counting? And that was like, such a mountain to climb for my mom because it was like a real thing. You know what I mean? Like, so for years, basically, I'm saying from. From 2018, the good trouble of it all, the coming out and having a conversation, up until 2022, it was just kind of all right. I'm. I'm doing glad panels, I'm doing, you know, saying. But, like, nothing was really as solidified as when I told my mom, like, this is my girlfriend. You know, like, this could potentially be my wife. You know what I'm saying? And it took her a second to process it. And for me, I'm kind of tough sometimes. I'm like, the plane is taking off. Are you boarding? Essentially. And then there were moments of that, but there were also moments of like, okay, let me be not a. And. And realize that my mom has a different experience. And this is like. It's like, you know, before people started driving Teslas or charging cars, like, what? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's something people needed to get used to. Let me just be a little more patient. And sure enough, it. Now it's two years and eight months, and my girlfriend is just like a ray of goddamn light. And just the gentle, most nurturing, pure soul. So it's clear that mom was gonna get on board. You know, my mom just gave her a purse on Wednesday. You know what I'm saying, so, like, the progress my mom has made, but also hand in hand with the fact that she sees that clearly I feel liberated in. In some sort of way where success almost comes with that, you know, like, for example, like in Nobody Wants this, my character is queer. You know, in. In the movie I did shortcomings. My character's queer. Like, these are things that have actually helped me, you know, and it is authent. So I think my mom sees that it's not hindrance, you know what I'm saying? It really is just me. And I haven't changed either, you know.

[Kalilah]

But I think that's really what. Where parents come from, the root of it all is that they're afraid for you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kalilah]

It's not even their own ideas about sexuality that gets in the way of their acceptance of you. They're literally, most of the time. Unless they're bigots. Right. Because that exists too. And those people are monsters who don't accept their children. But for the most part, like, even with. With my own mom, anything that she's ever, like, resisted has always been out of fear for me. She's just literally. And. And then you get it, like, you're a new mother where it's like you. You have a baby and you have this, like, overwhelming feeling of, oh, like, I need to protect this child no matter what age. But when they're born all the way. And I really see that now with my own mom, and I don't know if that sort of, like, reach, you know, rings true for you as well.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. That's.

[Kalilah]

But it's good for her to see that it's really helped you out or just something. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm saying, like, it's not a crime, you know?

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know what I'm saying? Like, so. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know how we got here, but. But definitely just our upbringings have been so layered, you know, and also divorced parents, which was so interesting because my dad and I, we definitely had, like, what I consider an emotional hiatus, like after he moved out, you know, when I was 14. And my parents. Yeah. Around, like, it was like, freshman year of high school. Ish is what my memory tells me. And, you know, he. He remarried, he had two other daughters, you know, who I adore, you know, big age gap. They are 16 and 20. 17. 20. One of those. One of those. Like, they're teenagers. They're younger than me.

[Kalilah]

They're Gen Z.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes, yes. Y. But my point is, like, me having that emotional Hiatus with my dad and then rebuilding that relationship as I get older, realizing boundaries as well, you know, and the resentment that I had and still kind of like managing that, you know, and just giving him my time, giving him the efforts. But my point was to say that when I came out to him, he was on board immediately, really like my dad. I mean, once you meet the guy, he was like, obsessed with Ricky Martin. We don't need to get into the Kinsey scale right now. Like, my dad was like, just. He was even saying, like, lady Gaga likes lgbt. I like lgbt. Like, he was just like. So that was so interesting because someone who, in theory I didn't feel supported by my whole life, suddenly was, like, immediately supportive about this. Whereas my mom, who's my rock, my everything was. It took a second for her to get on board with the queerness, you know, so that was. It was just very interesting for me. But, yeah, my dad, yeah, he literally goes to Lady Gaga concerts for sport.

[Kalilah]

That's so sweet.

[Sherry Cola]

I just found my. I found a. I've been wearing this, like, Wicked zip up hoodie from, like, the musical, and I'm like, the. Where I found. That was my dad's closet.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God, stop. Not the closet of all things. Wicked is a universal love language, though.

[Sherry Cola]

It is.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, have you. Yes, we've seen it.

[Kalilah]

No, her.

[Sherry Cola]

Not yet.

[Kalilah]

I know she's. She's really ashamed of me, but I'm seeing it this week.

[Esther Povitsky]

What a spectacle. What a. Just a magical thing. I mean, I can actually. Wicked is very fresh in my mind because this morning I was at the. A hotel in Beverly Hills for a meeting and I was early. And last night at my friend's birthday party, I had in and out and. And McDonald's chicken nuggets with caviar. That was her wish that we just went in on this, like, versatile experience.

[Sherry Cola]

High, low.

[Kalilah]

It is very high. The.

[Esther Povitsky]

The. The yellow chopped chilies. Okay, got me good. Because I arrived at this hotel and I needed to absolutely go. So this is a very, like, you know, fancy place. I go into the hotel lobby bathroom and, like, I'm not well, like, I go straight into the big stall and I'm doing my thing and I'm playing the Wicked soundtrack because I need something to drown out the sound. So, like, you're playing it loud.

[Sherry Cola]

Out loud.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm playing it out loud.

[Kalilah]

You still do that?

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, my God.

[Esther Povitsky]

I have not done that because so long. It was. It was not good what was happening to me. So there's a knock.

[Sherry Cola]

No one Thought it was good.

[Esther Povitsky]

There's a knock and there's a mom waiting for the big stall because she has a stroller. And I'm like, fudge. This is the worst nightmare right as I'm still playing the Wicked soundtrack because it was just the last thing on my Spotify. So I just played it and so I should have said, I'm sorry. I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry, but I'm not doing so hot. I'm not doing so hot. I was like, are you waiting for this one? She's like, yeah, I have a stroller. I was like, oh, my God, I just got it. I'm not doing so hot. That's what I kept saying, to say the least. And I keep playing the fucking soundtrack because it's so good. And, you know, it is the comm app. And then I was just, like, panicking because I'm like, I gotta freaking finish pooping. And then I finished, but then she wasn't there anymore, so everything was good. But it was like this, like, really interesting situation I was in that's really stressful with the wiki soundtrack.

[Sherry Cola]

And it's already really hard. It's really hard.

[Esther Povitsky]

I actually typically have no problem. But I was just literally, like, everything I ate last night was just bad. Like, it was bad times. It wasn't coming easy. My legs were trembling.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm wearing this jumpsuit. The sleeves are touching the floor. Like, it's bad.

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, See, I feel like if you're. When it's a single stall, you know, it's not like a full bathroom and you are doing your thing and then you just feel someone, like, trying to get in. That, to me, is enough to, like, just ruin the whole.

[Kalilah]

Anything that forces me to cut.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, the cut. Like homemade pasta, bro.

[Kalilah]

That hurts me. It was almost going to come out in one fell swoop. And now you're making. You jolted me into cutting.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's giving. Part one, part two. Wicked.

[Kalilah]

I hate part one, part two. It's like, it's either part one and part one only, or you've ruined my day. You've ruined my day. Now my asshole is like a flame. It hurts.

[Esther Povitsky]

The cutting off. First of all, the power that we have between our legs.

[Kalilah]

The slice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. The steak julienne of it all.

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, my God, you guys.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't. I didn't even plan on going here, but no, Wicked is fantastic. That was. That was my point. But. But no, yeah, I. I typically don't have a problem going publicly, going public I'm not opposed, but this is how, you know, I. I do this on my Patreon, Okay?

[Sherry Cola]

You eat bananas.

[Esther Povitsky]

Phallic consumption. A yellow phallic consumption.

[Kalilah]

Oh, remember when they used to call, like, Asians who.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Were white bananas.

[Sherry Cola]

What?

[Esther Povitsky]

Basically, I hated that term.

[Kalilah]

Right?

[Esther Povitsky]

Not good.

[Kalilah]

Asians who, like, we were like, oh, she's like a white girl inside. But there were also. Dude, I know a couple of girls who were like, I'm a coconut. And say that really proudly when they're brown and they like. It's just like, why? Why? Why are we doing this?

[Esther Povitsky]

Guys, it's. It's 2024.

[Kalilah]

I don't like the way you did your banana.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, that. There's something.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, something weird happened. I'm not kidding. Don't judge me, but remember me judging so far. It happened so fast. First of all, I came in here, just the whole thing with the. I. I was texting Stella like. Like. Like an emergency hotline last night, because I was like, wait, this wasn't in my calendar. Because we obviously talked in the DMs, but I blacked out, clearly, because it simply wasn't in my calendar. So I got this email last night, and I'm like, wait, that's tomorrow. So I was like, oh, my God. So I was, like, trying to move things around, ended up showing up at the time. That was original. And then, so I was literally texting Stella. I was like, stella thinks I'm. Well, I mean, Sherry.

[Kalilah]

That doesn't excuse your banana.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. How is that?

[Sherry Cola]

Wait a.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, remember me differently all around. Okay, you smushed the top of it. No, no, no. That was an accident.

[Kalilah]

It's sacrilegious.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no, no. Okay, let me. Let me. Let me retrace my steps.

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, no, don't. Let me.

[Kalilah]

Oh, you were trying to do it the correct way.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, what did you do? What did you do?

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, she's doing it. The toxic. Bro, you are queer.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I didn't. I did. You mean I'm straight. No, no. Is this the correct way or what?

[Kalilah]

This is like the. The gym bro way, the way you did it. Oh, that's a Moshe Casher way, I think.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Wow, that's really.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. I don't know. You might if you think you had hot shits earlier.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do we want to go viral or not?

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. Can you eat that? This.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, I'll be honest. That wasn't a pleasant experience. Try it.

[Kalilah]

Well, I do use banana peels in a tea.

[Esther Povitsky]

You'll regret everything. Try it.

[Sherry Cola]

I Can't. I'm not gonna do it. Wait, how? What?

[Kalilah]

Banana peels?

[Esther Povitsky]

Fiber.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Too soon.

[Kalilah]

Yes, yes, yes. So it actually is pretty good for you. If you boil banana peels and you just, like, drink it like a tea.

[Sherry Cola]

What does that do for you?

[Kalilah]

I don't know, but my boyfriend has been doing this for me every night, and I don't know if it's making me feel better or killing me or if it's what caused the facial.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, wait.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Yeah, let's go back to that. I feel like I really skipped over, but you probably talked about.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

On this podcast. I don't want to repeat topics.

[Sherry Cola]

Is your. No, that's fine. Is your boyfriend your herbalist? Because I do that for Dave, too. Like, I'll make him little tinctures and little supplement combos, and sometimes he's like, you could be poisoning me so easily.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

So cute.

[Kalilah]

He really is my herbalist. Like, he makes me, like, pandan. Pandan tea.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, what is that?

[Esther Povitsky]

It's Southeast Asian, because that's.

[Kalilah]

He's Hawaiian, I bet.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

Tropical man, tell the white woman what's pandan.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. Pandan will change your life.

[Kalilah]

Pandan is literally the future, and I feel like it's a leaf. Yeah, it's a leaf. It's a long leaf, but they very aromatic.

[Esther Povitsky]

You saw. I mean, so good. Pair with coconut very often.

[Kalilah]

Yes. You can either use it as, like, a flavor for cakes and. Or desserts, or you can just have it as a tea. And it is delicious.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's so good, and it's so warm.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Very good for you.

[Sherry Cola]

Do you guys think that teas, like, actually move the needle?

[Kalilah]

I do.

[Sherry Cola]

You do?

[Kalilah]

I do.

[Sherry Cola]

Really?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, I do. I feel that way with chamomile. I feel that way with peppermint when my stomach's upset. I know you're going through a T journey.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. And I'm. I'm just.

[Kalilah]

I love your journeys.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

It was like liver.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I'm a throat coat girly all day. I like throat coat ginseng and, like, herb thing that my mom gave me. It kind of looks like a black olive, but dry. And then when you put the warm water, it turns into this little. It's giving Pokemon. Really? I. I don't question it. It evolves. I'm not kidding. I don't question it.

[Sherry Cola]

Pokemon bath toy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh.

[Sherry Cola]

Did you guys ever get those little washcloths where they were squares, and then you put it in water and it would become a washcloth.

[Kalilah]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. Can I say I never did anything like that. Like, I didn't have anything of that.

[Sherry Cola]

You didn't have, like, trinkets?

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't think so.

[Sherry Cola]

That was like my whole childhood is like little trinkets to shut me up.

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[Sherry Cola]

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[Sherry Cola]

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[Kalilah]

I had Barbie and she was the, I think the ultimate, ultimate hair Barbie. She had the hair all the way down to her. She was a baker and then I cut her hair. I think her name was like Anastasia or something like that. I cut her hair and I renamed her Lisa. And I gave her her period. So I got like a red Sharpie and I gave her her period and she would. And I never put clothes on Lisa. She would be in the backyard. Backyard just like, you know, I know I had.

[Sherry Cola]

For you, I'm the opposite. I had McDonald's Barbie. So she would like serve me McDonald's.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh my God.

[Sherry Cola]

I had like trad wife Barbie back in the day.

[Esther Povitsky]

You made her call you your highness. I. I had a Barbie. I remember I also had a Game Boy, but I didn't. I don't remember bathing at all, actually, now that I think about it, because sometimes I'll. I'll be in the bath. Shower mostly. I don't take baths often. Are we baby? I do. I'm a shower girl in the tub. You water in the tub, girly?

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

What do you clean it Every time. Because that's my whole thing.

[Kalilah]

I'm same.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm a fucking. Like. You would never guess it, but I'm like you, my friends can't even eat chips on my couch. I'm like, really? Like in terms of cleanliness, I respect that. So a bath is like a commit. You have to, you know, make sure it's all the way clean. No.

[Sherry Cola]

Do you really feel like you're getting in the tub covered in dirt? Look at you. You're barely. I bet you shower. You don't. We're all showering mindlessly. We don't need these constant. There's not grime on you.

[Kalilah]

There is, though.

[Sherry Cola]

No.

[Kalilah]

Yes, my neck rolls. And right here in between. You don't scrub this out.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, let's talk about your neck rolls, by the way. We've been wanting to talk to you about that. Wait, thank God you brought it up.

[Sherry Cola]

You have smegma here.

[Kalilah]

Not smegma, because I'm not a penis.

[Esther Povitsky]

Good, Good point though. Okay. Get the folds. That's my rule. Get the folds.

[Kalilah]

Like. Y mean the day is is on you.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, it's on the tub. It's not about me. It's about the tub. The tub is not clean right now. You know what I'm saying? So how can two dirties make it clean?

[Kalilah]

I'm on your side all the way, Sher. Cuz I love to attack Esther about.

[Sherry Cola]

First of all, first of all, any bath situation, you need a handheld so that you can rinse the bath. If you know, for example, when I shave my legs, the tub is covered. It looks like a bear. Was.

[Esther Povitsky]

We need photos. Yeah, it's Adrian.

[Kalilah]

So do you shave your legs just on a tub like this? That is nice to think about.

[Sherry Cola]

How do you. How what else?

[Kalilah]

Bent over, like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, wait. What's your setup?

[Sherry Cola]

I would drown.

[Esther Povitsky]

My shower is in a tub, okay? So let's get that fucking clear.

[Kalilah]

Wait, how do you shave your legs? I just like Captain Morgan onto a wall.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like. Oh.

[Kalilah]

And then just. I don't bend over all the way. I'm very limber.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no, no, no, I believe it. I believe it. Same. Honestly, like, you would never expect me to be so flexi.

[Sherry Cola]

Is that just because you're queer?

[Esther Povitsky]

I guess. I guess you got to get creative. You know, we're doing all the numbers outside of 69. You know what I'm saying? You ever do the 82?

[Kalilah]

What's the 82?

[Esther Povitsky]

82 is when you're. You're just on the 101 freeway in separate Cars, you know, and then one's doing donuts and the other one is doing this. You know what I mean? But showering, I do lift the leg onto the edge of the tub as well. Oh, my God. I fucking. I face planted so hard in the shower. I'm lucky I have my teeth.

[Sherry Cola]

The shower is dangerous.

[Kalilah]

It is dangerous.

[Esther Povitsky]

It is an escape room.

[Sherry Cola]

It's slippery, it's. It's dark.

[Esther Povitsky]

At times it is the most vulnerable. Like falling in the shower. Like, can you imagine being found?

[Kalilah]

No, but this is a real thing. And I think that this is actually like a hazard, Esther, for, like, pregnant women. They say. Yeah, they say, like, you have to.

[Esther Povitsky]

Be very gas for no reason.

[Kalilah]

I think I know at least like two stories. Not a personal friends, but friends of friends who have died slipping in a shower.

[Sherry Cola]

The shower is so dangerous. This is why I take bats. To protect myself and to add.

[Esther Povitsky]

Honestly, no, I'm leaning this way now.

[Kalilah]

That is true.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is true.

[Sherry Cola]

Like, and you are a sitting target. Like, we've all seen psycho shower scene. Like, I don't know how anyone can experience that movie. And then, like, say, feel safe. Yeah. I never showered a day after that.

[Kalilah]

If an intruder comes and you're taking a bath, how are you protected?

[Sherry Cola]

I can shoot up.

[Esther Povitsky]

You could also drown the intruder.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, I could be like, come here, sir.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seduce and then drown. Okay, that's interesting.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

If I were to be. I would probably grab. Oh, I have. I have a scrubby sheet. It's like a loofah. But yeah, of course, crepe.

[Sherry Cola]

I heard that. But I've never had been brave enough to use it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. I use it because once again, behind the ears, you know, like in. I'm. Get the folds. Okay. You guys are psa. Get the fold.

[Sherry Cola]

You guys are over cleaning.

[Esther Povitsky]

Gotta get.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

How many you got?

[Kalilah]

I got a lot. I have Kimora Lee necklines.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Kalilah]

You don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The K, L, N, L. Yeah, yeah, yeah, The.

[Kalilah]

The, you know, very visible neckline.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, interesting.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, some people, it's. It's genetic. You either have them or you don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, you can count the. Count the rings.

[Kalilah]

You count the neck.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I. So I would probably go. Go loofah sheet and strangle my intruder.

[Kalilah]

Sheet is long enough that you can almost like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, do that.

[Sherry Cola]

That's smart. Or like squirt something.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, squirt is nice.

[Kalilah]

I guess there are some people who don't use anything to scrub. No loofahs, no sheets, shower Culture. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

The. The shower etiquette is. It's. It's shocking. Do you clean between your toes?

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

Well, when you're taking a bath, you really just don't have to do these kinds of things.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, hold on. So you're telling me bath is it. You don't do a. I thought bath was just for enjoyment. It's for the actual utility.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, but I do.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, have we talked about this?

[Sherry Cola]

I get this a lot. I get this a lot.

[Esther Povitsky]

On podcast.

[Sherry Cola]

Just in life. No, pre podcast. Since I was little, I. I've. People have a hard time. I. And I. I'm not.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm not judging. I'm simply curious.

[Sherry Cola]

I respect the judging. I don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm listening and I'm understanding. Okay, so it's a dip, it's a soak.

[Kalilah]

It's a soap, it's a soak.

[Sherry Cola]

It's a deep soak.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a marinade.

[Sherry Cola]

It is a marination, even. Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wow.

[Sherry Cola]

I find. I. I think if you were running the numbers, I think that this. There's an argument to be made that this is a cleaner way.

[Kalilah]

I mean, there. I mean, the. The argument has. Not. The argument. The revelation of people not washing their legs in the shower. You wouldn't know about this, but there are actually people who just like, let the shower community here run through and don't soak their legs. Don't. Don't do anything with their legs. They just kind of. And my stepdad is one of these people, and my mom yells at him every day like, you dirty and. But she's still with him for 22 years.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. What I will say in your defense is that once you've been doing the same thing for a while, like, that is the system that your body is used to as well. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just what your body does. So it's. There's no right or wrong. That's just what is right. So. So I. I respect you, to be honest with you, because for me, I'm like. I'm so. It's almost like over obsessive. Like, I have my spots. I got to hit, you know?

[Kalilah]

Yeah. And I will say I realize now that I'm not a perfect shower myself, because I think that I.

[Esther Povitsky]

Breaking through today, honestly, I thought that.

[Kalilah]

I was like, getting all, like the. The nooks, and. And then I shower with my boyfriend, and he's just like, why aren't you scrubbing between your toes? I always just did the foot wash, and he really Gets in there, and he was just like, you're not. You're not.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm getting in between the toes.

[Kalilah]

You are? Yeah. And he's that type, and I'm not because I'm. I definitely wash my legs and my feet, but it's more like a quick, like, scrub. And that's it. You're really.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm doing the thing. Yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

I think that men need to do a better job, though, than women in general in the shower.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Your boyfriend's probably like a small percentage of. Of of dudes who wash between the toes.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, he's really clean.

[Esther Povitsky]

Good for him. No, but I respect the bath. I always. I manifest being a bath person. I just. I can't be bothered with admin work. You know what I'm saying?

[Sherry Cola]

There really doesn't need to be admin work.

[Kalilah]

Esther. I'm really surprised because when I take baths, like, I get lightheaded.

[Esther Povitsky]

I need a second chance because this is unacceptable. I don't know what happened. I have to say now that I have a second chance just so I can walk everyone through it. The instinct was to do this, to pinch it out like a. Like one of those things from. From. Wait, that's seventh grade.

[Kalilah]

We're telling you that that's the correct way. That is technically.

[Sherry Cola]

No. Apes open it.

[Kalilah]

Apes open it that way.

[Sherry Cola]

I.

[Kalilah]

Because.

[Esther Povitsky]

But then there's. My problem with. With this method is that there's a dangly thing in the way, you know, saying this feels like a handle.

[Kalilah]

That's what the apes say.

[Sherry Cola]

The apes say that.

[Kalilah]

Apes.

[Esther Povitsky]

They won't stop saying. I mean, honestly. Okay, so now that I have a second guess. We do this every podcast. The banana.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Banana break. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay. I should have really done my research. No, but shower. Let me remember. Shower, Etiquette. Bath. Intruder. Where were we going with it? I'm still opening it this way. Wow.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. So your. Your instincts are your instincts.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. The pinching, the nipple of it all.

[Kalilah]

You still smushed it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I can't believe I'm wasting bananas. I have to eat all of it.

[Kalilah]

I'll take them home.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, true or false? Bananas smell like nail polish.

[Sherry Cola]

False.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are you serious? I think this is one of those cilantro tastes like soap situations. No one's with me.

[Kalilah]

Can I smell?

[Esther Povitsky]

Or more. So nail polish smells like bananas.

[Kalilah]

Do you think your dog's feet smell like Fritos?

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes.

[Kalilah]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes, I do have that.

[Sherry Cola]

Why is that?

[Esther Povitsky]

Their smell smells.

[Kalilah]

So another smell. Okay, it's Fritos, but it also smells like the inside of the vacuum cleaner.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I.

[Sherry Cola]

Sort of.

[Kalilah]

Or the air that comes out when you vacuum.

[Sherry Cola]

You're not wrong.

[Esther Povitsky]

Hold on. Common denominator. The floor.

[Sherry Cola]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

So I think it might. I don't know. I think I'm onto something here. Things that touch the floor perhaps create this corn chip stench.

[Kalilah]

Wait, were you at the Maggie Rogers concert? I was at the Hollywood Bull.

[Sherry Cola]

How did you know?

[Kalilah]

Because I was there. But you know what's so funny, Sheri, is that, like, we know each other.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm the random bitch who's everywhere for no reason. You.

[Kalilah]

I. I don't know how to say hi to people in public.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Kalilah]

But you also look like you were having a blast. And, like, I felt so small at small that I was just like, I can't say hi to sharks.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's the Hollywood Bowl?

[Kalilah]

It was Hollywood Bowl.

[Esther Povitsky]

This was August of last year. I remember. Exactly. Yeah. My girlfriend loves Maggie Rogers. I do my thing, and I know some songs. One of them is, like, really being overused in every movie.

[Kalilah]

Which one?

[Esther Povitsky]

Light on Light in every movie.

[Kalilah]

It is. It's a great song.

[Esther Povitsky]

Go upstairs. Royalties.

[Kalilah]

I know, but what is it about me seeing someone I know and not being able to say hi that is so relatable?

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Sherry Cola]

Really? Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

Let's. Let's break this down like, red string style. Because my whole thing, it's not that I. I'm like, something stopping me sometimes. I don't want to. Oh, what's your. No, not. Not in terms of you, but in general. Sometimes I'm like, it. It'll be such a thing.

[Sherry Cola]

It's too, like, out of context. It's like, I'm like, what's the point?

[Esther Povitsky]

Or am I a scrooge?

[Sherry Cola]

Like, this is happening recently. I can't even remember who it was, but it's like, if you are out doing your thing, you're on your walk, you're at the grocery store, you're like, in your own movie, Right. You have your soundtrack on. And then it's like you're feeling your main character energy, but then you see someone from, like, your life. It can really throw you off.

[Esther Povitsky]

B plot. C plot.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. And it's like, it just. It could be very disruptive, I think. But that's not always the case. I'm trying to lean away from that because I want to feel more community. And I think a accidental run in is good for, like, the brain.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

But it is far in distance. So how far were you?

[Kalilah]

Not that far. Like, I could have been like, Sherry, you would have been like, what's up?

[Esther Povitsky]

You should have.

[Kalilah]

I think the mistake that I'm drawing this from, like one negative experience at Trader Joe's. And I. When I saw Andy Dick and he had already. I know, I know. But then I had done. He had already done. Tiger Belly had met several times. I had met his daughter, and I was like, oh, hey. Like, anyway, like, I was right behind him in like, the checkout line. And he was basically like, who are you? So I'll never do it again. And I was like, so embarrassed. I was like, oh, my God.

[Sherry Cola]

That is such a specific example.

[Kalilah]

He was nice. He was like, oh, he pretended, but I know, like, he didn't know who I was. Imagine if I was like, Sherry. And you were like, you know, I.

[Esther Povitsky]

100% know who you are. Let's just put that out. The way I bit off more than I could chew over here.

[Kalilah]

Take your time.

[Esther Povitsky]

It also with the Andy the Thick, I have a list rebranding as a person with the list. What do you think it'll work.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, I'm in.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think it's also the. The place. Sometimes people like, like, they're like, wait, the place throws them off because he knows you in. In the setting of Tiger Belly, right?

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Esther Povitsky]

So he definitely knows you are. He probably was like, walking away 45 minutes later, like, oh, shit.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know what I'm saying? But I do understand.

[Sherry Cola]

I also think with Andy Dick, though, he's the kind of person where it's like, he could run into, like, his son and he'd be like, wait, where do I know you?

[Kalilah]

But I had to go down my list of credits. It was really embarrassing. I was like, Bobby Lee's girlfriend.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Kalilah]

And he was like, oh, I love Bobby. And I was like, okay, bye.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, the. The spin offs of this, like, what's your experience in terms of when people recognize you but they don't know from what? And then you're standing there.

[Sherry Cola]

It's so degrading.

[Esther Povitsky]

Going down your IMDb.

[Sherry Cola]

No, it's. So when that is it. That rarely happens. I almost feel like people that happens and they don't say anything. But when it's like, do I know? Like, that's horrid.

[Kalilah]

It's.

[Esther Povitsky]

You don't know what the right answer is because it's like, I'm gonna. Someone's gonna walk away feeling bad.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. I think that the one time we were at. In Yucca Valley with Bobby and we were at like a Stater Brothers or something like that. I think that's their number one grocer there.

[Esther Povitsky]

And someone thought he was me? Yes.

[Kalilah]

But the person was like, oh, wait. Oh, my God, dude, you're famous. I love you. And he was like. And the guy remembered who he thought Bobby was, and he said a name, and Bobby was like, no, like, that's not me.

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, no. Bobby gets so triggered at that.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, also because he. He, like, came up in an era where, like, it was. I mean, it's. I'm. It is very triggering all around.

[Kalilah]

He had to Google himself and then show it to the cashier.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah, I once did that to try to get a discounted Gap. I forgot what it was, but I didn't have my ID on me. I was. No, I was trying to return something at Gap, and I was like, no, this is me. And then I showed my Wikipedia. Dave was, like, ready to dump my ass right then, and there was. He was so he.

[Kalilah]

And what did the person say?

[Sherry Cola]

All I remember is it didn't work. You know, the rest is black.

[Kalilah]

That's very Reese Witherspoon of you, though. Remember when she got a dui and she's like, do you know who I am?

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God, what year was this?

[Kalilah]

I think she was this buried. But obviously, like, I've said something we. Crazier shit. I've said that. Not famous and drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've said that. Do you know who I am?

[Esther Povitsky]

When I'm like, no, honestly, do you know who I am? Because I do not know who I am.

[Sherry Cola]

And I need you to drive me home.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes, yes, yes. What is my address? I've done the. This has happened a couple times where someone comes up to me, wants to take a selfie, and as they're pulling up their phone, they're on safari. And they had just Googled, like, just to make sure. So it's like Sherry Cola via the. The. The search engine, or they're like, Asian comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just Bobby Lee. Yeah, yeah. Smoker voice, you know?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, Just pictures of Bobby Lee.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, honestly, it's. It's such an interesting. Yeah. And sometimes, like, it'll get to my head, you know, because, like, when people, like, come up to you and you're like, oh, hey, yeah, here we go with the.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

And then they're like, no, hey, could you take a picture of us?

[Sherry Cola]

Like, whatever.

[Esther Povitsky]

I remember once I. I had, like, some sort of recognition at this point in whatever years ago, and my mom and I were at the mall, and I was like, yeah, mom, you know, Some people are recognizing me. And she's like, really? Really? And these two teenagers come up, and I'm going, yeah, yeah, it's about to happen. And they're like, hey, could you. Could you take a picture of us? And I was like, oh, my God, Humbling. But that's also. Oh, my God. Another time, my friend Kara Wang and I, also my co star on Good Trouble, she played my best friend, ex girlfriend, slash girlfriend, all the things. She and I were at Burke Williams getting massages and all that stuff. And we were literally in the. The icy room. You know, we were in our towels, like the Jacuzzi in the icy cold room, whatever. And we're just yapping away, yapping away, like, no filter, just, like, screaming, really. And this chick, like, comes in, like, you know, pushes the curtain to the side and says, excuse me. And we're like, oh, good Trouble fans. You know, like, whatever, whatever. Let's entertain this. She's like, could you two keep it down? And we were laughing so hard. But, yeah, it's always humbling, no matter what the fudge it is.

[Kalilah]

My favorite moment of all time was when we were at a Starbucks, right, on Ventura. And I was. I was with Bobby at this time. And of course, anyone that approaches, he thinks is for him, right? Like, they want a picture with him. So the guy is just like, hey, dude, can you. So Bobby grabs the phone from the guy, and then the guy proceeds to stand next to me. And he was like. Basically, he wanted a picture with me. Not because he knew who I was. He was a guy from, like, the butt somewhere in America. He wanted to take a picture with a hot California.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Kalilah]

And there was Bobby. Just like, he didn't even think that Bobby was my boyfriend anything. And Bobby had already flipped the camera to take a selfie. And he was like, oh, my God, I'm just taking a picture of some Mirando and Kalila. He didn't know who the we were. We were cry. Laughing on a drive home.

[Sherry Cola]

Because I was like, so funny.

[Kalilah]

So embarrassing for everyone involved except him.

[Sherry Cola]

Instead, he gets a selfie with Bobby Lee. That's his California babe.

[Esther Povitsky]

You are a hot Cali babe. You are. Wait, did you grow up here? I forget.

[Kalilah]

No. Philippines.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kalilah]

Well, partially. Mostly here now.

[Esther Povitsky]

What about you?

[Sherry Cola]

Chicago suburbs.

[Esther Povitsky]

Respect.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, where were you born?

[Kalilah]

Gv huh? When were you born?

[Esther Povitsky]

We actually love that question because you know that we always ask, where are you from? Or where'd you go to school? Whatever. Where were you born? Straight to the longitude and latitude. Let's go.

[Kalilah]

What hospital?

[Esther Povitsky]

Shanghai, China. Wow. I have one of these things, you know, the immigrant.

[Kalilah]

Me too. My TV shows on the right.

[Esther Povitsky]

I try to explain it and I don't know what happened. So we were different vaccines and they took a chunk out of our baby skin. Right? That's what happened.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, the scar is so big.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's a. It's a keloid. So we have. It's like a shiny little keloid we all get. And that's how you know we're immigrants.

[Esther Povitsky]

In any keloid.

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Kalilah]

At any. Mine's pretty flat, actually. I don't know what doctors you guys have in Shanghai.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kalilah]

I'm sorry.

[Esther Povitsky]

Now wait, let me see.

[Kalilah]

Mine is barely there anymore. Oh, you see, it's very.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kalilah]

Very flat.

[Esther Povitsky]

Mine is right here.

[Kalilah]

Let me see yours.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah. Yours is more visible than mine. So we got different vaccines based on what was the pathogens.

[Esther Povitsky]

Something. Yeah. In.

[Kalilah]

In our areas.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kalilah]

So none of you guys got the TV shot. We all got our tuberculosis. Yeah. You guys didn't get it here or else you would have what we have. Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

But we're surprising Esther with the TV shot today. So Shanghai and then San Gabriel Valley. So SoCal. Girl, you're so ride or die.

[Kalilah]

626Lucky. SGV is the best.

[Esther Povitsky]

I really grew up here.

[Kalilah]

You really did.

[Esther Povitsky]

To say the least. King Taco, anyone? Porto's King. I know my stuff.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, but that's. Those aren't the SGV hits.

[Esther Povitsky]

King Taco. That was a really loud teeth suck.

[Kalilah]

King Taco really is like a classic. And I feel like people don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

No one talks about King Taco. So there's the closest one. Glendale. There's one.

[Kalilah]

There's one. Oh, yeah, there is.

[Esther Povitsky]

The green salsa is. It's not a sauce. It's a recipe. Yeah, it is just like. Are you Spice Queen?

[Sherry Cola]

No, Spice Girl. Not Spice Queen.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which. What. What Spice Girl do you most identify with? Ginger.

[Kalilah]

I'm a ginger too.

[Esther Povitsky]

Give Ginger her flowers. Really?

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah. She's the coolest.

[Esther Povitsky]

I want so badly to go back to that era of like. I remember just having like a Spice Girls themed birthday party where the party favors. Yeah. Party favors were like Spice Girls erasers. Like just school supplies.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, who is your favorite?

[Esther Povitsky]

It. So I would identify as Sporty Scary Rising. Yeah, I think.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That. That, you know. Yeah. The sporty wow.

[Esther Povitsky]

Maybe even the flip scary in the. You know, there's the. The chaos of it. And Sporty in the power top Mamacita of it. You know what I mean?

[Kalilah]

Sporty really was like, the. The vocals of it all, girl. Yeah. Mel C is. Is the one who could sing. And. And, baby, I think. I think Emma.

[Sherry Cola]

They can all sing.

[Esther Povitsky]

They can all sing.

[Sherry Cola]

Honestly, I don't stand for the slander, okay?

[Esther Povitsky]

I've always wanted saying the Spice Girls. Let's go deeper into the Spice Girls of it. Because the movie. Right.

[Kalilah]

The best.

[Esther Povitsky]

That was so good. Absolute.

[Sherry Cola]

Like a little Gucci dress. Or the little Gucci dress.

[Esther Povitsky]

There were aliens. You know what I'm saying? Like, who wrote this? Because I want. And I was thinking about, like, okay, in the world. Because it's always been my dream to, like, be in the reboot as the Asian pregnant friend. But then I'm like, they wouldn't be able to do that because that was more like a biopic. Real person documentary. Like, they. You couldn't do a reboot because you couldn't have people play the Spice Girls. They're real people who are still there. You know what I'm saying?

[Kalilah]

You would have to do it with a girl group.

[Esther Povitsky]

It wasn't scripted in theory.

[Sherry Cola]

It was a very complicated genre of film that we're still studying today. There were aliens. People were playing themselves. There was fiction, There was nonfiction. Honestly, nothing has been as unique of a genre.

[Esther Povitsky]

Harvard Law to this day is releasing a thesis. I clearly don't know anything about college, but. No, it's like. What? I remember the bridge scene where the. The tour bus was going over the bridge and you can see it was a toy and there was a string. Rewatch it because I forgot about it. I didn't even notice, like, the. The. The dream sequence when they were all pregnant. Like, it just was the perfect thing.

[Sherry Cola]

Movie studios really will get away with what they know they can get away with. Like, they're like, this is the Spice Girl movie.

[Esther Povitsky]

The asses. Chaps.

[Sherry Cola]

Oh, my God.

[Esther Povitsky]

A cultural phenomenon.

[Sherry Cola]

Also, wasn't there a song in the movie only that was so good. What was it? There was one song that was never released. But it was just in the movie.

[Kalilah]

Was it? Come on. Come on.

[Sherry Cola]

Yes.

[Kalilah]

I never thought. It was never released.

[Sherry Cola]

Come on. It was never released.

[Esther Povitsky]

It was only a movie in studio with us today.

[Sherry Cola]

So you couldn't ever get, like. The only way I could listen to it was, like, rewinding and playing.

[Esther Povitsky]

No. I don't know. Is it the one where they were. Yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

My game.

[Esther Povitsky]

We have to fucking watch that immediately.

[Kalilah]

Do, like, just a full breakdown.

[Esther Povitsky]

Put it on.

[Kalilah]

You know, this is sort of how I felt about Free Willy. Like, you could never get away with making a movie like that again.

[Sherry Cola]

Why?

[Esther Povitsky]

Interesting.

[Kalilah]

They got a fucking whale from Mexico.

[Esther Povitsky]

We. How did they do that?

[Kalilah]

No, because Keiko was already a whale that had been in such a. A small enclosure because they tried to work with different whales, like, in the US and different, like, zoos and stuff. And they. They were like, nah. So they went to Keiko, who was in Mexico, who was not in, like, ideal situation, and her. And her. Not her pectoral fin. Her thing was already bent.

[Sherry Cola]

Are you. Have you ever met a whale?

[Kalilah]

I have never met a whale, but I hate to say this. I did go see Shamu when I was younger.

[Sherry Cola]

That's okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think we all did the San Diego, right? Is that where. Oh, SeaWorld.

[Kalilah]

Sea World.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I think I did that too. Yeah.

[Kalilah]

And then blackfish. And then it's like, my heart broke and all of that.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

We were young. We didn't know any better.

[Sherry Cola]

I'm getting. I'm getting the signal. We're out of time.

[Kalilah]

Oh, we are.

[Sherry Cola]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know. It's. This is my bad. Here's the thing. I want a second chance. I want to come back.

[Sherry Cola]

You can have a million chances.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I come back immediately? Soon.

[Kalilah]

Honestly, Sherry, here's what I'll say. You had a second chance with a second banana, and I still blew it.

[Esther Povitsky]

So, like, first I ate this old. I'm gonna wear this as a hat until the next time we see each other. This is actually. What if, like, this was like a. A penis holder?

[Kalilah]

Like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like a penis sweater.

[Kalilah]

Do they have those?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is this some. Oh, actually, yes. Like, for, like, sex scenes and stuff. There's like, little, you know.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Have you done a sex scene?

[Sherry Cola]

Never.

[Kalilah]

But you've done a love scene.

[Sherry Cola]

I've done some love scenes. I'm really bad at them.

[Kalilah]

Really? Yeah.

[Sherry Cola]

They're not. It's not my strong suit. I can't really. It. I don't like kissing.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, well, okay. Because when we're kissing, though, on screen, we're not kissing. Like, we actually kiss. Like, we're not. This isn't my. This isn't a real, you know, representation of how I kiss that.

[Sherry Cola]

It's really happening, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

Should we kiss?

[Kalilah]

Wait, can I ask you guys this? I'm so curious because I've. I've never had an on screen kiss. Wait, are you supposed to kiss differently on set than you are in your room? Yeah. You don't.

[Sherry Cola]

Your tongue doesn't come out.

[Kalilah]

You think I can kiss with this lopsided mouth.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, first of all, do not dim your light. Yes. Because obviously in the heat of a moment in the back seat of a, a Jack in the box, when you're 19 years old and discovering hormones, you're kissing in a heated way you would never want to be seen. That was really specific and weird. I related I lost my virginity in that way.

[Kalilah]

Oh really?

[Esther Povitsky]

When I was 19 in Jack in the Box, I really got vulnerable.

[Kalilah]

But wait a second, Sherry, why wouldn't you want that on screen kiss? To mimic the real life.

[Esther Povitsky]

Kids say it's ugly. It's uglier than like a put together choreo 5, 6, 7, 8 situation. That would be the on screen. You have the conversation. Tongue or no tongue?

[Kalilah]

I need to, I need to watch your kissing scene now.

[Sherry Cola]

I, I, Please don't. I'm so awkward and weird. It's.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I hate watching myself. Do you hate watching yourself?

[Sherry Cola]

No, I like it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like I will probably not watch. Aside from the, the banana clip that will go viral and that y'all will put so I could collaborate on Instagram.

[Sherry Cola]

I was thinking of my last kissing scene. I was like, I did look cute though. But no, I, I'm just, it's too uncomfortable. It's so weird.

[Esther Povitsky]

I've never done like, I have done the makeouts and I, I've never done like sex sex. I have done like the going down. Like I have had an orgasm on screen.

[Kalilah]

Oh really?

[Esther Povitsky]

Fake. Obviously fake. Oh my God. Jesus. Back to your sex.

[Sherry Cola]

Like I don't think I would, I could ever do that.

[Esther Povitsky]

I, I, well, you know, the whole storyline was that my character had never had an orgasm. So then my girlfriend goes down on me. It's my friend Cara. That was weird because we, we'd gotten close already. So then it's almost easier to do it with strangers. Do you agree?

[Sherry Cola]

A million percent.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Because once you know them, it's like.

[Sherry Cola]

Wait, it's like now this person I know is kissing me so weird. And then I'm like, like, it's so weird.

[Kalilah]

I don't like vulnerable. Now the orgasm, is it what you really look like or is it what you think an orgasm should look like?

[Esther Povitsky]

My actual orgasm is quite aggressive.

[Sherry Cola]

You punch the person?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I just run through the wall.

[Sherry Cola]

This conversation needs a T. Be continued.

[Esther Povitsky]

There is a, there's part a Sherry shaped hole in all of my windows. That's how my neighbors know that I am okay. You see this scar? I told we said it was from Shanghai Maxi. No, baby, that is windowsill. 2012 oh my God.

[Sherry Cola]

Slugs.

[Esther Povitsky]

Really not my best. Cut it up and make it pretty. I want to be back because back to the scheduling of it. It just happened so fast and I walked in all good. You know what I'm saying?

[Sherry Cola]

We will be back with part two with share.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sherry it's giving Wicked part two. Okay? In one year.

[Sherry Cola]

You won't have to wait a whole year. Sherry, thank you so much for coming here. We love you. Where can people find you?

[Esther Povitsky]

This love triangle is where you can find me. Primarily.

[Sherry Cola]

Agreed.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sherry Cola on Instagram without the E. Still working on getting the E. Stay humble.

[Sherry Cola]

We'll see you next week with a brand new episode. We love you, Sherry.

[Esther Povitsky]

We love.