The Phantom of Khalyla Ft. David So & Rudy Jules

Summary

Podcast Summary: Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn Episode: The Phantom of Khalyla Ft. David So & Rudy Jules
Release Date: November 12, 2024

In this engaging episode of Trash Tuesday, hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn dive deep into personal challenges, relationships, and self-image issues alongside their special guests, David So and Rudy Jules. The conversation is candid, humorous, and filled with insightful moments that resonate with listeners navigating similar experiences.

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I. Welcome and Introduction

The episode kicks off with Esther welcoming Khalyla back to the studio, setting a supportive and open atmosphere for the discussions ahead.

Esther Povitsky [02:05]:

"All right, well, she's been in a shipwreck and she's been hiding underwater for eight months. And today we've got her here in the studio."

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II. Khalyla’s Battle with Bell’s Palsy

Khalyla opens up about her struggle with Bell’s palsy, a condition causing facial nerve inflammation that has left half of her face paralyzed.

Khalyla Kuhn [02:47]:

"I'm not going to take my sunglasses off because my eye doesn't close, and it's really hard to manage daily tasks like driving."

Her friends, Esther and David, provide both support and playful roasts, highlighting the challenges Khalyla faces with her appearance and daily life.

David So [03:26]:

"Half your face is paralyzed."

Khalyla Kuhn [03:36]:

"Yeah, that's Two Face for Halloween. Did you do it?"

The hosts discuss the emotional and physical impacts of Khalyla's condition, including issues like eye dryness and the difficulty of expressing emotions through facial movements.

Khalyla Kuhn [04:11]:

"I can't even drive myself because my left eye doesn't function well, and I can't squint in the sun."

III. Weight Loss Journeys and Body Image

The conversation shifts to weight loss and body image, with both Khalyla and David sharing their personal journeys.

David So [14:38]:

"I did that, the film 'Gook,' and then I gained 20 pounds for that role because I looked older than Justin."

David discusses how societal pressures and misconceptions about health influenced his weight gain and the challenges of recognizing his own condition.

Khalyla Kuhn [16:52]:

"After college, I gained like the easy 20, 25 pounds. I'm not going to stop eating."

The hosts explore the psychological aspects of weight gain, including emotional eating and the normalization of unhealthy habits.

IV. Relationships and Family Influence

Jules joins the conversation, bringing in perspectives on relationships and family dynamics.

Jules [05:26]:

"My birthday is this week."

The discussion delves into Jules' relationship with her boyfriend, highlighting differences in maturity and responsibilities.

David So [07:33]:

"He just exists."

Jules explains how her boyfriend's behavior affects their relationship, reflecting broader themes of compatibility and mutual support.

Khalyla Kuhn [12:44]:

"We're always talking about our weight, our eating habits. It's like we created anxiety around the body."

This segment underscores how family and societal expectations can perpetuate body image issues and anxiety.

V. Adventures and Fears: Surfing and the Ocean

The hosts shift gears to discuss their experiences and fears related to the ocean and surfing.

Khalyla Kuhn [11:05]:

"I'm going to try to improve my surfing, but it's so hard."

David shares a humorous yet harrowing story about a surfing mishap that left him with a bruised face, illustrating the unpredictable nature of ocean activities.

David So [43:56]:

"The ocean is just so scary to me."

VI. Anime, Hentai, and Pop Culture

A lively discussion ensues about anime and hentai, exploring their place in pop culture and personal interests.

Jules [55:05]:

"I've caught up to it. Do you read the manga?"

The conversation highlights differing opinions on anime genres, with Jules expressing a passion for series like One Piece and Jujutsu Kaisen, while David critiques aspects like fan service and animation styles.

David So [58:02]:

"Death Note is about somebody who gains this notebook and... it's a weird, complex story about morality."

Khalyla and Esther also weigh in, sharing their own experiences and questions about the medium.

VII. Celebrating Jules’ Birthday

As the episode progresses, the focus turns to celebrating Jules' upcoming 23rd birthday, adding a personal and heartfelt touch to the conversation.

Kalilah Kuhn [63:32]:

"Happy birthday, dear Jules!"

The hosts share anecdotes and well-wishes, reinforcing the supportive community among friends.

VIII. Closing Remarks and Community Support

In the final segments, Esther and Khalyla encourage listeners to connect and share their own experiences, fostering a sense of community and mutual support.

Khalyla Kuhn [68:49]:

"If you guys have ever had Bell’s palsy, please write me. I am taking all tips and suggestions. Help me heal my face."

The episode concludes with warm thanks to the guests and listeners, leaving the audience feeling connected and understood.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• David So [14:38]: "I did that, the film 'Gook,' and then I gained 20 pounds for that role because I looked older than Justin."
• Khalyla Kuhn [16:52]: "After college, I gained like the easy 20, 25 pounds. I'm not going to stop eating."
• Khalyla Kuhn [12:44]: "We're always talking about our weight, our eating habits. It's like we created anxiety around the body."
• David So [58:02]: "Death Note is about somebody who gains this notebook and... it's a weird, complex story about morality."

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Conclusion

This episode of Trash Tuesday offers a raw and honest look into the personal struggles and triumphs of Khalyla, David, and Jules. Through humor, vulnerability, and deep conversation, Esther and Khalyla create a space where listeners can relate, laugh, and feel supported in their own journeys. Whether discussing health challenges, relationship dynamics, or pop culture interests, the episode underscores the importance of community and open dialogue in navigating life's complexities.

Transcript

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I just say, no matter how bad whatever is going on looks, there's no way it looks worse than the sunglasses you look.

[Kalilah]

You think so?

[Esther Povitsky]

You look so crazy.

[David So]

You look like you killed your husband.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. Hi, sluggies. It's me, Mario. I am so excited that you're here. We're in this together. We're in this for the long haul. And I'm going to be in Austin November 22nd and 23rd. I will be doing stand up shows those nights. I cannot wait to see you guys. I have new material. I can't wait to share it. And then I have a solo podcast. I've had one for many years. Over the years we've taken breaks, but we're back, baby. And this is a safe space. We have a group chat within substack. It's been really fun and if you subscribe right now, you'll instantly have access to all 10 episodes that are there. And you can find that at the link below or at Esther's Group Therapy substack.com Start your free online visit today at forhers.com Trash Tuesday that's F O R H R S.com Trash Tuesday for your personalized weight loss treatment options. For hers.com Trash Tuesday hers weight loss is not available everywhere. Compounded products are not FDA approved or verified for safety, effectiveness or quality. Prescription required restrictions apply. Wegovy and Ozempic are not compounded. Shop Skims holiday [e-mail] available in styles for women, men, kids and even pets. If you haven't yet, be sure to let them know we sent you. After you place your order, select podcast in the survey and select our show in the drop down menu that follows.

[Kalilah]

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[Esther Povitsky]

All right, well, she's been in a shipwreck and she's been hiding underwater for eight months. And today we've got her here in the studio. The only person who could get her out of the shipwreck was David. So. And welcome back, Kalila.

[Kalilah]

Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here.

[Esther Povitsky]

You look so happy.

[Kalilah]

We should probably Explain why David, I know, was one of the first people who knew about my. My face situation, and I'm hoping that you got all of their roasts out on your text thread.

[David So]

You're hideous.

[Esther Povitsky]

Nothing has changed for David. He sees you the same thing.

[David So]

Half your face is paralyzed.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, I should show the audience.

[David So]

Show them. Show them.

[Kalilah]

I'm not going to take my sunglasses off because my eye doesn't close, and it's really.

[David So]

You have to take the sunglasses off.

[Kalilah]

I can't, David. I can't even see because my. My left eye don't see that great. Okay, so, guys, we've had. I've had a. A stressful couple months, and what happens is, apparently when you go through stress, your body freaks out on you, and there's this thing called Bell's palsy where you get inflammation on your facial nerve. Half of my face is. Has off and is not moving, and so this is how I smile. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

You obviously look like Jack Nicholson, right?

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's honestly, like, the greatest joke you could ever, like, give me right now.

[David So]

That was Two Face for Halloween. Did you do it?

[Kalilah]

No, I thought about Phantom of the Opera, too.

[David So]

Oh, but then this is the mask, though. But you need to do the other thing. You got to burn half your face and do the other. Show them your eye, though. I got. You got to show them the eye.

[Kalilah]

I can't show them the eye just.

[David So]

For a hot second.

[Kalilah]

You've seen the eye.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I see?

[Kalilah]

Esther, can I see again? We have FaceTimed every day since I've had this.

[David So]

Does it get dry because the eye doesn't close?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, that's a problem. Like, I can't even drive myself because. Because my left eye is, like, not, like, functioning well, and I can't squint in the sun. Or, like, if, like, there's debris, it just stays open and it gets hit.

[David So]

So how long. How long has it been since you've had this?

[Kalilah]

Weeks now. Like a month. It's not a disease. It's going to heal. And can I just remind you guys that both Angelina Jolie and Justin Bieber had them lucky?

[David So]

Well, you should. Justin Bieber sucks. Angel Jolie is very beautiful.

[Kalilah]

Thank you. And then she. She healed. So, I mean, it might take, like, six months, but we'll get there.

[David So]

Wait.

[Esther Povitsky]

Speaking of Angelina Jolie, I had a horrible, scary experience this morning, which is I was looking at pictures of beautiful women on an Instagram grid post, and I saw a picture of Angelina Jolie, who my whole life has been the Most beautiful woman. And in my head I go, oh, she's not that pretty. And that is because Instagram and all the people with plastic surgery, we're too used to pretty women that now I'm desensitized.

[Kalilah]

Esther, I just talked about, like, thinking I had a stroke. And that's the most. That's the scariest thing that happened to you this week. Thinking Angelina Jolie this week?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, my whole life.

[David So]

Wait, how old is Angelina Jolie right now?

[Kalilah]

She's in her 50s now. She's gorgeous.

[David So]

She looks great.

[Kalilah]

We should probably also introduce that Jules is here.

[Jules]

Hello.

[Kalilah]

And we're gonna get into. It's. She. It's her birthday week.

[David So]

Oh, wait, when's your birthday?

[Jules]

Saturday.

[David So]

Oh, really? Happy birthday. How old are you?

[Jules]

20. Turning 23.

[David So]

Youngest.

[Jules]

No, I feel old.

[David So]

Get the out of here. Get the out of here right now. What did you just say you're 23 years old?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[David So]

That means your body does everything it's supposed to do without hurting your joints.

[Kalilah]

Feel lubricated, Jules.

[Jules]

I think so.

[Kalilah]

You don't even have to think about it. Right.

[David So]

Get out of the show without making noise. Yeah, there you go. That means you're young. That's literally what it means.

[Jules]

I guess. But, like, with my friend group, I feel old.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, because how old are they?

[David So]

12 year olds. What are you talking about?

[Jules]

They're like, 21, 22. I'm the oldest.

[David So]

I'll sock you in your face right now. I'll give you Bell's palsy right now.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's how she got it.

[Jules]

Well, how old are you?

[David So]

Me? I'm 36. I'm 37.

[Jules]

Next year you look younger.

[David So]

Oh, thank you. It's just a haircut. That's all that it is. Wow, she's so sweet. Always have her on. She's great.

[Kalilah]

She's, like, the worst.

[David So]

Really?

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jules is, like, very cutting, and she's just, you know, low key about her.

[David So]

You seem so calm. Like, do you ever raise your voice?

[Jules]

Only to my boyfriend.

[David So]

Oh, really? How long have you guys been together?

[Jules]

Two years.

[David So]

Oh, long time.

[Kalilah]

Whoa, wait, longer than that, Jules.

[Jules]

Two and a half.

[David So]

Wait, what? What? What makes you raise your voice at him? What does he say?

[Kalilah]

He's, like, so mean to him.

[David So]

He just exists.

[Jules]

Not mean. I'm just. I don't know, because I feel like I. He's like a puppy.

[David So]

Oh, so you abuse puppies?

[Jules]

I have to. I have to, like, leash him and then control.

[David So]

What? Is he okay? What does he do?

[Jules]

He's just a He just feels like a baby. Like when we go out. I think it's like he gets scared when there's like a lot of people. So I have to be the one to like, control.

[David So]

Was he 10 years old? How old is.

[Kalilah]

He's like literally like the nicest boyfriend ever. Like, he treats her so well. It's just that I think you guys are in different maturity levels. Like, you know when you're just a girl and you're kind of a little bit more advanced? They're the same age. Right. Like, it's kind of when you open a bank account for an ex.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

And you were like, what, you don't have a bank account?

[Esther Povitsky]

Right.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's sort of like similar.

[David So]

Oh, so he's useless.

[Kalilah]

No, he's not though.

[Jules]

He's not. But when we went to Hawaii as a family trip, like everyone had to teach him how to clean because he didn't know.

[Esther Povitsky]

But he's a 21 year old guy. I am still learning that at 36, I guess.

[David So]

I mean, well, you thought birds pick up your sticks from the floor, so that's different. You're not a good example. Wait, so when you guys like. Okay, so is he the type of person, like, if you guys go out to eat, you have to order for him?

[Jules]

No, not for him, but he just, he just gets shy. And I want someone that's like immediately knows what to do, so I have to do it instead of him. But I'll say, may I say, Jules.

[Kalilah]

That I think it's not necessarily that he's behind. I think you're too advanced. You're. You're a young girl who doesn't party. You're very responsible. You have like, you've got, you. You got your together at 16. Like, you almost grew up too fast. Whereas when I was 23, you don't think I was drunk in an alleyway, like.

[David So]

Oh, nobody thinks that. Everybody thinks that you're good. You don't?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no.

[David So]

Nobody's denying that.

[Kalilah]

You don't think my facial nerve. God.

[David So]

We think, we know. We've heard.

[Kalilah]

She's just not like that. She's just not like reckless and stupid and dumb like I was at 23.

[David So]

So you're old.

[Jules]

Yeah, they. They call me grandma.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

Really? So you don't go party? You don't like do your pop that out every now and then?

[Jules]

Well, I want to. It's just hard cuz I'm also. I don't want to. It's hard.

[David So]

What the does that mean?

[Kalilah]

She. She want. I Can I can decode this? I can. Let me be the jewels Translator. Yeah, she'll do this. She's at the. Can I go out clubbing tonight? I'm like, oh, my God, that makes me so happy to hear. Like, we've been trying to push her out, like, you know, for a really long time. And then she'll work out because she got to get her arms skinny for that night. And then she won't eat all day because she got to be skinny for her outfit.

[David So]

Is this what girls do before they go out?

[Kalilah]

Yes. I used to take laxatives before Vegas so I could be, like, this genius version of myself.

[David So]

Get the out of here.

[Esther Povitsky]

I never went out, so I don't.

[Kalilah]

But you would do, like, you know, like, skinny girl tactics. It's so unhealthy and toxic.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, definitely. Like, thinking that if I. I. For me, it was like, if I ate, like, 12 cookies, then I would go on a treadmill for two hours after. It was more like that.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Or, like, make sure, like. Or I wouldn't even go out of the house if I had 12 cookies. I'd cancel all plans.

[Esther Povitsky]

That too. Yeah.

[Kalilah]

And so she'll have this whole, like, day of preparing for the night, and then the night comes, and something in her switches, and she's just like, nah, I'm gonna hang out with the dogs. And she does this every single time. So her friends think she's a flake.

[David So]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

So she gets to that point where she's just about. And she'll plan out a whole outfit. By the way, it's a really cute outfit. And if she does go out, she'll be like, oh. I'm like, where are you going? She's in sweats. She's like, I'm just gonna go like this.

[David So]

That's a lot of work to do. Nothing, though.

[Jules]

I don't know. It's just. I get paranoid. I get anxious.

[David So]

What are you anxious about and what makes you paranoid?

[Kalilah]

Good questions, David. I do wanna know.

[David So]

This is fascinating.

[Jules]

I don't know, like, especially even my body. Like, if I feel. If I feel just a little bit fat, I don't want to go out.

[Kalilah]

Oh, God. I know this. Oh, no.

[David So]

You look like you, like, a solid 67 pounds.

[Jules]

No, because last year I got so fat, my face was so stretched out, and then that made me go crazy.

[David So]

Now that's what you think. What, did she get that big?

[Kalilah]

Absolutely not. But I cannot. I know that feeling so well.

[David So]

So I can't therapy the is wrong with you.

[Kalilah]

I know. That's why we've been in therapy for a while.

[Esther Povitsky]

Definitely. I would not go places if I felt fat.

[David So]

Same like men.

[Esther Povitsky]

But it's so weird looking at you. That's not an issue.

[David So]

Is that because. And this is for girls. Like, this is so cool for me. I love it. When you guys go out, do you think that other men will look at you like you're fat and gross, or is it just how you feel about yourself?

[Kalilah]

It's literally how we feel about ourselves. Because I. We're very well aware that a man will.

[David So]

They don't give a.

[Kalilah]

Like, it's like a. A pulse and a. And some flesh.

[David So]

That's it.

[Kalilah]

What is it? Like a. A hole in a heartbeat. Thank you, Stella.

[David So]

There it is.

[Kalilah]

A hole in a heartbeat. But I think what happened with her is. It's our fault. The adults in her life, her mom, my mom, my sister. There's a lot of food noise. We're always talking about our weight. We're always talking about over, like, exercising. Oh, we didn't work out today. And she grew up around that environment. So we up. So it's like we created this, like, anxiety around the body.

[David So]

And did your mom ever get on your case about getting big or nothing? So my mom doesn't care about anything?

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, no, she did.

[David So]

Oh, she did.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, yeah. I mean, there has been times in a dressing room where I'm like, nothing fits. And she's like, well, why'd you have to gain so much weight?

[David So]

Dang.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is. I definitely have been destroyed by the long standing American or Filipino all culture tradition of your mom making you have an eating issue.

[David So]

Holy.

[Kalilah]

Didn't your mom, like, try to get you to, like, walk right after you gave birth?

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, yeah. Being like, get up, get up, get out of bed. You have to move.

[David So]

Is your mom really fit?

[Esther Povitsky]

She is. She's really thin and fit. Yeah. Does. Does your guys. Moms ever do this thing where, like, when you go out to eat, like, they wouldn't order their own thing and they would just, like, pick off your food?

[Kalilah]

Yeah. And this is my mom. This is what my mom does. I'm not hungry, so I won't order anything. And then she always just ends up, like, picking from everybody.

[Esther Povitsky]

See, now that I'm a mom, though, I kind of get that.

[Kalilah]

Why?

[Esther Povitsky]

Because you, like, put your own needs aside and you know that your kid won't finish their food. That's my projection.

[Kalilah]

No, it bugs me because I. There's never been a moment in my life where I didn't Finish my food. And now she's just taking away from the volume that I.

[David So]

That's probably why I thought she thought you were fat because you would never share food. Can I get a crouton out of here?

[Kalilah]

You know, can I tell you what foods I'm unable to eat cuz I can only chew on like the right side.

[David So]

Anything with liquid?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, anything with liquid. And like rice. Because if a rice kernel like gets stuck on the other side, there's no way to fish it out.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, really? Your tongue can't go?

[Kalilah]

It can't get around? No. There's so many things I've had to change about my life and I have to like shut my eye, like tape my eye at night so I don't sleep with one eye open.

[David So]

God, dude. Shut up, David. Mess dude. Who the fuck has to wake up to that morning? Oh God.

[Kalilah]

Do you know how sweet he's been? He's just like every day he's like, you're beautiful, you're beautiful. He still gets boners around me, which is like nice.

[David So]

What a good liar.

[Kalilah]

To be fair, you are still be annoyingly beautiful. Thanks, Stella.

[David So]

Don't say like that to her though.

[Kalilah]

You okay? I have a question for you. You, you know, you've been very public about like losing weight, gaining weight and still loving like both versions of yourself. Like what kind of food noise was around like your family?

[David So]

Oh, you can't be fat. Like they would always say some side to you all the time. Like that was non stop. But I really feel like for me it was a healthy. I don't think it was like a vanity thing. It was more like, oh, you're gonna die. Because I was big, big. I was like almost £300.

[Esther Povitsky]

What?

[David So]

So I was like £292 at my highest.

[Kalilah]

And how long were you at that weight? And did you just feel like, oh, this is just.

[David So]

Well, I kind of up because what happened was, you know, I did that, that film Gook.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

And then I gained 20 pounds for that role because I looked older than Justin. So when you get fatter and chubbier, you just look a little younger.

[Kalilah]

I have a question. Was that fun having to gain weight knowing that you were doing it for a role?

[David So]

Oh, I didn't even. That shit was like second nature. I just had to get rid of all my inhibitions and just fucking go at it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I didn't know anyone ever gained weight for a role and wasn't just telling a lie because that's a lie I told my ex once when I Saw him, I was like, just so you know, like I put on extra weight. It's for a role in a play. What role did you say in a play? It's school.

[David So]

Oh my God. I'm playing a blueberry. It's like what the are you talking about? Yeah, but I gained about 20 pounds for that. And then I just, you know, continued. I just went 20 pounds and then cuz I was like 225 and with like 240 ish. And then I just kept exponentially gaining weight.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

How could you stop? It's like once you start giving yourself the free for all, it's like inflation. Like they always say prices never go down. It's like you're not going to just suddenly want to eat less, dude.

[David So]

Like food is so addictive and also too, it's like social. So when everybody goes out to eat, you go out to eat. Because I. There's like a famous like saying that my friends will say about me. Don't ever ask David, are you hungry? He's always hungry, right? So it's like did you just eat? He always just ate. So just, just go.

[Kalilah]

I can really relate to that because I feel like in many ways I'm a bottomless pit. Like I've always eaten like high volume because I was an athlete for so long. And when you're an athlete you don't count calories because you're always, your body's always in motion. You never have to worry about gaining weight, right? So that when the ath. When the swimming stopped it was like well I'm just going to continue to eat like this. My body is like programmed. And that's why like after college I think I gained like easy like the 20, 25 pounds. I'm like, I'm not going to stop eating.

[David So]

That's light work, dude. I gained like 60, 70 pounds. And I didn't even know because like you know when your self esteem is like really high for no reason, like nobody can tell you otherwise, right?

[Kalilah]

Wait, so you gained weight because you had high self esteem?

[David So]

No, it's just you don't know that you're fat.

[Kalilah]

Wait, that's amazing.

[David So]

That's not a thing like what, what the world sees. So I have like body dysmorphia in a positive way, you know. So like what the world see, I never saw. So like I'm like looking in the mirror, I'm like this looks fucking great.

[Kalilah]

Wait, this is incredible.

[David So]

So I have by the physician that I went to at the time was because I would Go back to Sacramento all the time. So I just had the same doctor, Indian lady. And, you know, she's known me for quite a while, so we could joke about things. But my. Apparently my genetics are really good. So my blood work always came out perfect. Even when I was, like, £292. No high blood pressure, no nothing, really. So she would do the blood work, and she's like, I don't want to tell you the results. I was like, why? Why? She goes, it's perfect. That's it. And I just, like, walk out. And she goes, no, no, no, no. But you should lose weight because you're. You're, you know, you're morbidly obese. I'm like, but what does the blood work say? She goes, it doesn't. She goes, you're. It's going to catch up to you eventually. I'm like, I'm an athlete. And so I would just like, never listen to her. Well, she was right. Eventually did catch up. Heartburn every day. I had, like, diarrhea every day, which I thought that was just normal. So I'm like. People would tell me they have solid poops. I'm like, you should go to the hospital.

[Kalilah]

You shouldn't have to strain.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're not perfect like me.

[David So]

In my diarrhea, it has to be liquid because it comes out faster. But I would have.

[Kalilah]

You're like, my metabolism, so fast.

[David So]

Yeah, it just picks it right up, you know? But there was that moment, and then there was a moment that I always talk about is where I was going out to eat. And then my wife pointed out how fat I was because I didn't know.

[Kalilah]

How did she say it?

[David So]

Oh, she was brutal as fuck. We were, because. So we were going out to eat, and there was a couple that came in, these two really large couples, and I sat down, I looked at them, and I was like, you see those two fat people over there? And Mary was like, you're fatter than them. What are you talking about? And I got so fucking mad because I'm like, what, are you, on your fucking period, bitch? Like, what are you talking. There's no way. And she was like, you're fatter than them. I'm not fatter than them. What are you talking about? And that kind of got the wheel spinning in my head. And I'm like, oh, am I fat? And so I went and I got on the scale, and they said, like, 292 pounds. I have it on my. My fitness pal, because I logged it in. And I was like, Damn, this scale is broken. And so I got rid of that scale, and then I started looking at my clothes scales. Basically, I'm not even fucking lying. So I went to go, you know, put on some shirts. And you're not really looking at what the size of your shirts are, right? Because I usually wear baggy shirts anyways. Well, eventually those baggy shirts just started to fit normal. And I'm like, okay, these, like, shirts are now, like, French cut. They're not fitting like how they used to. So, like, I'm keep making these excuses over and over and over again. And then, you know, I started having a lot of heartburn. And that was the hard part. It's like having heartburn every day. And I didn't know that that wasn't normal. So when you're, like, not fit and you're not healthy, everything that's wrong with you becomes normalized. So you don't know what it feels like to be healthy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, also, though, that's a. I feel like a guy thing. Whereas guys, like, they don't notice their symptoms. Like, Dave, I feel like he'll just live with, like, so, like, under terrible circumstances. Like, he has this, like, autoimmune condition that's basically like, ra. And he lived with so many terrible symptoms. He was like. By the point he went in that, he was like, to the doctors, like, so you can't move your hand? He's like, no. They're like, so for how long? He's like, I don't know, like, a year. I can't move my fingers.

[Kalilah]

Oh, my God.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, he.

[Kalilah]

A year.

[Esther Povitsky]

He, like, lived with crazy things. Like, he wouldn't go to the doctor till his knee wouldn't bend. He's just like, I'll limp. Like, he's so. Guys are like, they don't care.

[Kalilah]

But I will say that in terms of, like, pain threshold, you guys are the weaker gender.

[David So]

Oh, 100%.

[Kalilah]

Like, I mean, I know that biologically, it's like, you know, engineered that way.

[David So]

Have you seen, like, any of your guys with a cold or flu and how we react to that? Yeah, how, like, girls deal with it, it's crazy. I just remember my dad every time he got sick. You would. I'm not even fucking exaggerating. Through the. His bedroom door, you could just hear this. And you hear my mommy crazy. Shut the fuck up. It's just a cold fucking Korean ghost. He would always do that. Every time he got sick, he would make everybody know that he's not feeling well.

[Esther Povitsky]

Isn't it weird, though? Like, some people with a cold, they get laid out and they can't do anything. And then some people are just, like, out functioning totally normal.

[David So]

My mom, whenever she had the flu or cold, she was still working, still handling. But my dad would just be in ridiculous pain and my mom would just call him a. All the time just. Just because she was so sick of hearing it. But I just feel like women can just handle that a lot better.

[Kalilah]

Which is probably not a good thing too, because I feel like we under report a lot of our, like, symptoms as well. Because it's like, oh, no, you know, we can handle that. Like, that's why, like, I think there's, like, when it comes to, like, heart attacks, men are always quick to be like, oh, God, like something's wrong, chest pain, whatnot. But are, like, women, like, our symptoms, like, present differently? It's more like gastric pain is different. And we hold out before we see, you know, a doctor. And I think that's why, like, they say, like, they're trying to educate women more now about, like, heart attack symptoms because we just don't go in for it. Just kind of like.

[David So]

That's why you always need, like, somebody in your life to be like your truth teller.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

Because, like, my wife is my truth teller. Because I had the worst skin ever. Right? But I don't notice these things.

[Kalilah]

That's really sad for a Korean.

[David So]

Oh, well, this is the thing too. Let me tell you something, right? So we. I never did anything with my truth.

[Kalilah]

Tell you too, like, David.

[David So]

Okay, well, you got me for that too, so don't. Fucking jackal looking face. We. You look like the hyena from Lion King.

[Esther Povitsky]

I do?

[Kalilah]

Oh, my God, that's exactly it. I was trying to figure it out for a long time.

[Esther Povitsky]

God, they're so scary. They're so mean.

[Kalilah]

They are so mean.

[David So]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, having, like, my wife in my life, she's like the truth teller, right? Like, even, like, the dry skin and everything because I had, like, red patches all over my face. I just thought it was normal. I never used lotion because, like, when you're younger around other dudes, using lotion on your face was like, the gayest thing you could do. Like, everything was gay in the 90s. Like 90s and the early 2000s, you couldn't do anything good for you. Mental health, gay. Talking about your feelings, gay. Wearing certain colors, gay lotion on your face. That's the gayest thing. So we would just walk around with scabs all over her face. And we would just deal with it because we didn't want to hear that stuff. And then once she started forcing me to do the face stuff, I'm addicted now. My face regimen is longer than hers.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, the hyenas are actually so cute.

[David So]

The one on the right.

[Kalilah]

The one on the right is me. That's for sure. My tongue was hanging out last week.

[David So]

Oh my God.

[Kalilah]

Me and my, my senior dog look the same with a little tongue hanging out.

[Jules]

Even when you were blowing your cake, you couldn't.

[Kalilah]

Oh yeah, that's right. It was my. It was my birthday not that long ago and they gave me a cake and I was like rude guys. You know I can't blow. Like I couldn't blow my candles out.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, try it.

[David So]

It just comes out this side.

[Kalilah]

Imagine like this. This was my, my birthday cake. And it was like you just had.

[David So]

To push position the cake to the side this way.

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[David So]

Listen, I literally just told you the state of my life. I don't care. I literally don't care.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, you're right. I, I'm gonna stop feeling sorry for myself. But there was a moment there where I was just. Is like, you have the fear that it's gonna not improve.

[David So]

What I wonder a lot, too, is, like, you know, a lot of friends that I know, they're always so well put together at all times. Like, you never see them not look good.

[Esther Povitsky]

I hate that.

[David So]

And the first thing I'm telling you, like, the first thing I think is, like, how much effort is that every day to do that?

[Esther Povitsky]

It feels exhausting to me. Like, I don't. Yeah, that stresses me out. Like, I don't want to be that way.

[Kalilah]

But I think what it is is that it really energized them. It makes them feel so good to, like, get up early to be. To kind of head to toe. And I. I am just. I'm not that prototype. I've never been. I'm kind of on a sloppy prototype. But I really do, like, kind of not envy, But I love how they're able to get it together every day. Like, I wish I had that.

[David So]

Like, I got, like, homies who just. They get a haircut every week and a half, right? Every week. You have any health Expensive guy haircuts are. They're $75 every time.

[Jules]

Women's are more.

[David So]

No, but we're doing it every. Every week. 75 every week.

[Kalilah]

Ours is like 500 bucks.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I know, but every week, you guys, we don't really need haircuts. Right? We could just have our mommies and friends do it.

[Jules]

That's true. I cut my own hair.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah? You want me to show them the picture?

[Jules]

Well, it's bad haircut, but I saved money.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. During the pandemic, she had a.

[David So]

You really are old as.

[Kalilah]

She had a crisis of the mind during the pandemic, and she didn't run it. Me, we're only, like, a room apart. And she was like, ate. Can you see if I. How the back of my hair looks? I walk out and this had cut her hair. She had hair to here. She cut it till here. I'm not kidding you. There was half of her hair. There was, like, a difference of this much. And she thought she had done such a great job. And I was like, let me fix it. She's like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. Like, half of her hair was this long. The other half was this long. And I'm like, you're so crazy.

[David So]

That isn't. And this is when you had a boyfriend or.

[Jules]

No, no boyfriend. But I feel like every time I have big emotions, I feel like I have to cut.

[David So]

That's a girl thing, though.

[Kalilah]

That's a very Japanese thing.

[David So]

No, it's. Let me tell you something, man, because my parents own a beauty supply store, so.

[Kalilah]

Oh, they did. That's right.

[David So]

This is what it was like. So in the morning, this is before they get their hair done, right? So they're the meanest people ever. They come in, bunch of racist, yelling at me all the fucking time. They get their hair done, they have to come back for another product. I'm so sorry about that earlier. I'm sorry, baby. I didn't mean to do that. You know, my hair was all fucked up. So I learned early on is to not engage with them in the morning when they're. When they're. Before they get their hair done because they're just pissed off. But afterwards, when they feel like they're beautiful, they treat everybody sweet. It's fucking insane.

[Kalilah]

Well, that's. That. That basically explains why people get ready from head. Head to toe. Like, they want to put.

[David So]

Their. Girls have a huge attachment to their hair, though. Like, it's a huge emotional indicator, like, how your hair looks, how you feel. It's a lot about your hair. So, like, when I see, like, girls who, like, shave their head off, I'm like, this got dumped. Something happened, like, when I. I love it when one of the homegirls gets, like, dumped or they break up. I can't wait to see their Instagram. Oh, yeah, right. They're showing out. They're always looking good. Best day ever. Out with the. On a boat suddenly, when just two weeks ago, they were making pot roast every week. Like, the. Is this.

[Kalilah]

I love that move. Like, you know, make it like, there is no better revenge, I think. I mean, you can see maybe through it than just, like, living your life happily, even if you're not that happy. But showing that you are after a breakup, it's like, don't, don't, don't go. I would prefer that over, like, the sad quotes.

[David So]

Oh, the sad quotes. Guys do the sad quotes.

[Kalilah]

They do. And it's so Tom Brady did with Landslide. He did, yeah. Because Giselle is pregnant with a jiu jitsu instructor, and then immediately on his Instagram, he put up Fleetwood Mac Landslide.

[David So]

Hilarious.

[Kalilah]

With, like, a sunset picture.

[David So]

My favorite ones is, like, guys will always do this. They'll do. They always do black and white photos after. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen. It's so sad. It's like them at, like, a distance is a wide angle cam, and there's, like, a light hitting them, and it's always black and white. I've seen that photo so many times.

[Kalilah]

And what's the caption?

[David So]

And it's always like something about, I wish you the best, even though my heart's broken or some shit like that. Along those lines. Every fucking time, dude, I support this. No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I tell you what I found out about my family? My aunt, she's 95 years old.

[David So]

Damn.

[Esther Povitsky]

She has a boyfriend and he has a yacht. So listen up, ladies.

[Kalilah]

I'm listening.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, don't give up hope, okay? Because if my 95 year old aunt has a boyfriend with a yacht, we can all do anything in this world.

[David So]

Having sex.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't know. Of course I don't think so.

[David So]

Does the penis work at that age?

[Kalilah]

I think it doesn't matter if the penis is working. I think that if you're in love, it doesn't matter what age. You guys are like grinding. Like, you guys are getting in there. I personally think. I don't care if the hormones have just like depleted from your body and have like, you know, evaporated into space. I still think that when you, you find love, no matter what age, you have that like oxytocin kind of feeling that you want to be physically close. Yeah, I. 100. I do have a fair question to ask. I think it's fair. Are they both healthy enough to steer the yacht? Are they still going on the yacht together?

[Esther Povitsky]

I know that they recently went.

[Kalilah]

Boats are dangerous. I've been injured on a boat.

[Esther Povitsky]

They went on a road trip. So I think that although it wasn't a Tesla, so maybe the Tesla drove. So I don't know.

[David So]

Have you heard back from her? Is she alive still?

[Esther Povitsky]

I have not heard back from her.

[David So]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

And she did say, like, you know, I've had a long life, so whatever. So I don't know.

[Jules]

Is it younger?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, they're both 95.

[David So]

Whoa.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know. It's a miracle.

[David So]

And you're in a young relationship too. You guys are probably like horn dogs, huh?

[Jules]

No, opposite.

[Kalilah]

When I was younger too, I would say my libido was not that high when I was in my 20s. It only started to creep up in my like mid-30s.

[David So]

Really?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it was like the opposite for me. What about you?

[David So]

I feel like when. Well, for guys when they're younger, you just have. You get the NRBs, the no reason boners.

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[David So]

All the time. Like if you took a nap in class, you're. Because you're just waking up with your dick hard and they're like talking about science.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're like, you're gay.

[David So]

Yeah, you're gay. You like science. You love it so much you got hard. No, I remember, like, falling asleep towards the end of class, and the bell would ring, and then my dick is hard, so I just have to wait for, like, five minutes. And they're just like, why aren't you leaving yet? I'm just going over the notes. Let me just. Let me just chill out for a second. Those NRBs were annoying. Like, anything could get it going.

[Kalilah]

What about now? You feel like. It's like your libido has since, like, filled out.

[David So]

Of course I don't get the nrbs, but I. I will get. You still get Morning Wood. It's just up for no reason.

[Kalilah]

David, Congratulations.

[David So]

I feel like. I mean, I'm still in my 30s. It should still work like that, right?

[Kalilah]

I think so. I mean, my dad made me when he was in his 60s.

[David So]

Oh, that's right.

[Kalilah]

It breaks my heart to say that, but, you know, I don't want to picture, like, my decrepit father walking around with a boner for my young, beautiful mom.

[David So]

No, when you're younger, too, especially as a young guy, like, everything you do is motivated by sex. Like, what can you do to have sex all the fucking time, the moment it gets introduced to you? And that's just how you think around women.

[Esther Povitsky]

That was me when I was introduced to cupcakes. It's like, okay. Every single moment. How can I get a cupcake in my mouth?

[David So]

That's why your mom called you fat. Now it all makes sense.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, I actually am in the mood for a banana break.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Esther Povitsky]

If you know what I mean. Winky. Winky.

[David So]

Your face is so wild.

[Kalilah]

I know, right?

[David So]

That is crazy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Your teeth are so white.

[Kalilah]

They've always been white. Thank you, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, this brings it out because you.

[David So]

Can'T not show it.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, I know. It is wild, right?

[David So]

So you've known her since she was a little baby, then?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, she's my niece.

[David So]

Wow.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, she's. I have pictures of me carrying her as a baby.

[David So]

Do you play more of a parental role for her than. Because the age gap.

[Kalilah]

What do you think, Jules?

[Jules]

I think parental more.

[Kalilah]

Are you still afraid of me?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[David So]

Oh. What does she do to instill fear in you?

[Jules]

Because I don't know, but that's. She's not strict. Like, that's why I'm more cautious around her to, like, not up. Because I know if I up, she's gonna go crazy.

[David So]

I feel like you wouldn't do anything to make Anybody go crazy? You're so.

[Kalilah]

We've had some stern talking. I've had to. Because I feel like if you look down to her.

[David So]

Can you talk to her? Here's, like, a scenario. I just want to see you, like, the most excited you've ever been. You just won $20 million at the Lotto. Please show me.

[Jules]

I think I won.

[David So]

All right.

[Kalilah]

No.

[David So]

Volume. Volume change. Her facial expression, change. But the vol. The exact same. I won.

[Kalilah]

There was a time in your life, and I. We can cut this out if you don't want to talk about it. Where, like, you. The decision that you made at that time, like, I didn't agree with. With.

[Jules]

Oh, yeah. With the guy.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. So when she. You can explain it, Jules?

[Jules]

Well, I was dating someone way older.

[David So]

How much older?

[Kalilah]

You were in high school.

[Jules]

High school. And he was, like, 30.

[David So]

Damn.

[Jules]

Yeah. And I don't know. I. I felt like I was in control, so I was like, no, I want to go to him. I want to date.

[David So]

That's what predators do, though. You know what I mean?

[Kalilah]

Right. And for me, it was like. I also know what it felt like to be 17. I know what it felt like to, like, be attracted to someone older. I know what it felt like to think that I had control or agency of my body. Right. Yeah. But down the road, when I got older, I. I, like, retroactively felt really disgusted with myself for having dated that person, because he was. I've now realized, oh, he couldn't find anyone in his age group.

[David So]

Oh.

[Kalilah]

And this guy was a loser. He was broke. Right. So I was. Then I started to, like, just kind of feel, like, icked about it, but I wanted to not force it down her throat because.

[David So]

So he couldn't even buy you anything because he was such a loser.

[Kalilah]

That was the last straw.

[Jules]

Got so mad at me because I had to pay, like, $200 to pay an Uber to go to him because he wouldn't go to me. So she got so mad at me.

[David So]

So you didn't even get, like, wine and dined or nothing like that?

[Kalilah]

No.

[Jules]

And I didn't even see any signs that he was. He didn't have any work. He was alcoholic. I didn't see any of it until I was, like, over it.

[Esther Povitsky]

How did you meet him?

[David So]

So the empty bottles on the floor.

[Jules]

Didn'T, like, online dating. Hinge.

[David So]

Hinge. Yeah.

[Jules]

And Atikalai and Tito. Bobby had to, like, yell at me, like, like, don't ever see him again. Like, you can't. And I was, like, crying. I was Like, I like him a lot.

[David So]

And then what did you like about him? This is what I'm curious.

[Kalilah]

But you're so inexperienced at that age that, like, you're just. He was good looking.

[Jules]

Yeah. And he was someone older, so I was, like, excited also.

[David So]

He was hot.

[Jules]

He was hot.

[David So]

Okay.

[Kalilah]

But he was a bum, let me tell you. And, like. But I had to be very careful about how I approach this because I wanted her to always open up to me. I didn't want to, like, like, you know, like, just always be that person in her life that she couldn't open up to. And. And if I just yelled at her all day, she'd never tell me anything.

[Jules]

Happy?

[Kalilah]

On that note, happy. Oh, thank you.

[David So]

Wow.

[Kalilah]

To you. Happy birthday, dear Jules and Jules, happy birthday to you. You didn't want to grace us with your vocal expertise. Do you know David can sing like an R B star?

[Esther Povitsky]

What?

[Kalilah]

Did you guys know this about David?

[David So]

No, no, no.

[Kalilah]

Like, he could, like, win the voice.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I just inquire what kind of cakes they are? Because they look good.

[Kalilah]

One of them is chocolate and then the other one is a matcha.

[Esther Povitsky]

Matcha something. Oh, matcha.

[David So]

Can we legit eat this right now?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, but it's not. I think.

[Kalilah]

You think mocha?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[David So]

Yeah, that's mocha.

[Kalilah]

You just read it as matcha. I think I did read it as matcha. And then I later found out that your favorite is mango or ube. So I really feel like I screwed this up. That's okay. It's not like I.

[David So]

She can't chew it anyways. Her face doesn't work. It's okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are they from the Filipino grocery store?

[Kalilah]

They're from Red Ribbon. Yes. Perfect.

[Esther Povitsky]

Really?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Red Ribbon makes great cakes. Thank you so much, Stella.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yay. The birthday girl.

[Kalilah]

And Ariel and Guy. Thank you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are you guys the same sign?

[Jules]

Yes. Scorpio.

[David So]

What does that mean?

[Esther Povitsky]

I have no idea.

[Kalilah]

How do you feel about people who, like, open with what's your sign? And what's your.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's hard because I want to play along and I wanna. I wanna play pretend. And I do, but it is pretend. I don't understand it.

[Kalilah]

Do you eventually stop them and like, hey, I don't. Come on.

[Esther Povitsky]

I try to just change the subject, but I did recently was in a group of girls and they guessed my sign. And I was like, what? But could that really mean something?

[David So]

You just gotta do the same thing that I always do when somebody asks, they go, what's your sign? I'm like, oh, I'm a cancer. I can see that. I'm not though, bitch. And it's always like, they go, oh, but what's your fucking rising moon sign? Because it's the opposite. It's like, so it just covers everything now. Like, what are we doing here?

[Kalilah]

Right? I recently found out that I think, like, I'm a triple Scorpio.

[David So]

What the.

[Kalilah]

So I. Apparently that's like a big deal. And then I felt special in that moment. It's just like, I'm like, tell me more about myself. And that's the only time I felt super excited about astrology.

[David So]

Don't judge me if you don't know who I am. But what's your sign? Like, that's the dumbest thing ever. It's like you're, you're. You're already predetermining who I am by this sign. Some wuha. But then you don't want me to like, you want to get to know me at a certain point, then judge me later on. It doesn't matter.

[Esther Povitsky]

Did you call it Wuhan?

[David So]

No, just say whatever. Some Ching chong. You know what I mean? It's just like, it just doesn't make any sense. Right?

[Kalilah]

It's like, I think they did this like, test, it might have been in like an old 60 Minutes or something from like 25 years ago, where they gave people their what? The prediction based on their sign for the week. What do you call that?

[David So]

Stupidity? I don't know.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, your horse.

[Kalilah]

Your horoscope.

[David So]

A horoscope.

[Kalilah]

And they gave everyone their horoscope based on their sign. And they also gave them like a breakdown of their. Who they are based on their sign. It was like a room of like 30 people. And everyone was like. And later on they were asked like, does this describe you? And they were like, to a T. Absolutely. Every point about me, like, this couldn't be more me. What that was, what they later found out was everyone in that room got the same reading and they were all based on Charles Manson's birthday. And so, so, you know, like, it is fun though, and I do buy it.

[David So]

I believe in the entertainment value.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a play, pretend fun game.

[David So]

Yeah, I think it's a good, like, icebreaker or whatever, whatnot if you want to have a conversation. But there are people who like guide their whole life on it. I mean, that's all up to you. But I don't like the idea of somebody having a pre predisposed idea of who I am without even getting to know me. And they say like, well, this is the time that you were born. So this is what you are, and this is who you're destined to be. Be. It's like, I don't. I don't really subscribe to that idea. I think it's a little weird. I don't know.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, because it takes away, like, how layered we are. Like, we're such onions. Like, there can't possibly be this, like, general. I don't know.

[David So]

I don't.

[Kalilah]

We're going to piss a lot of people off about this.

[David So]

Stop dating old ass people, huh?

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, do you guys have birthday wishes?

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah. Jules, tell me yours so I know what to get you.

[Jules]

I just want to be good at surfing. That's it.

[Kalilah]

That is true.

[Jules]

I've been trying and it's so hard and.

[David So]

Yeah, you mean in life or at your restaurant? Job? What do you mean surfing?

[Kalilah]

Like, oh, serving.

[David So]

I thought you meant serving. I was like, oh, how gracious of her. This was really sweet. I thought you said serving.

[Jules]

Surfing. Yeah.

[David So]

Ah, okay.

[Jules]

That's it.

[Kalilah]

Do you have dreams of ever learning how to surf, David?

[David So]

No. I did. I tried once and the surfboard flew in my face. Almost broke my nose. I believe that there's a video on it on YouTube. Yeah, because I was recording my friends, you know, we were just doing, like, these baby waves in Maui, and I just got this GoPro and he bailed. And the surfboard literally missed my teeth. It was just an inch up and hit my nose. And my whole face here was bruised. It was so bad.

[Kalilah]

It's so funny. It would have laughed so hard.

[David So]

In the video, you could hear me go underwater. And then you hear me with the muffled sound of going, what? The whole face got bashed. And I come up. There's blood everywhere in the water.

[Kalilah]

That's how I feel. Like when I. I go. I stay on the beach while she surfs. Nothing makes me laugh harder. All you hear in, like, the videos that I take of her surfing is me, like, hysterically, like, cry laughing on the beach because she eats over and over again. Yeah, it is really hard. And I. I'm. It's. But it's so funny to see her eat.

[David So]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

I'm like, oh, I think she's drowning. Hilarious. But she's such a good swimmer. She's five, of course.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know how, like, a carnival and they have that thing where it's like fake skydiving?

[Kalilah]

Oh, yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's like blowing air up. If they had something like that for surfing, I would do that.

[Kalilah]

I think they do. They have, like, they have indoor surfing stuff?

[Esther Povitsky]

They do, yeah.

[David So]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

You know, you have to follow this one guy. His name is Raimana, and he takes any, like, people who've never surfed before, and they have those, you know, those manufactured waves, and they. They can. He can stand you up on a board.

[Esther Povitsky]

What?

[Kalilah]

I swear to God. Can you pull it up?

[Esther Povitsky]

But can you drown?

[Kalilah]

I don't think so. Because he has such control over you. Like, he teaches like little kids and, like. And the most uncoordinated people can feel the stoke. Is that what you say?

[David So]

But they had that for skiing, too. They had the indoor stuff where they teach you how to ski indoors.

[Esther Povitsky]

I could, like, finally do all these. These fun things in this simulation way.

[David So]

How come you just don't want to do the real thing?

[Kalilah]

Look, Esther, that's you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh. Oh, that's too scary.

[Kalilah]

No, but there's another one where he holds them. Look, for.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's crazy.

[Kalilah]

His. His name is R A I M A N A. He has an Instagram. But he is the best. I'm, like, obsessed with him.

[Esther Povitsky]

Would you go do this?

[Kalilah]

Yeah. This looks so fun. This looks really fun. Sorry.

[David So]

The ocean is just so scary to me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, are you kidding? Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[David So]

I love swimming in the ocean. Right? But there's just too many variables. There's just, like, creatures in there. You don't know what.

[Esther Povitsky]

We don't belong in there.

[David So]

100. Have you seen a monk seal in person? Like, straight next to your face.

[Kalilah]

We dive with them. They steal my fish. There.

[David So]

There was a monk seal. I. You not. Like, my friends were there. We were at Electrics in Oahu. Marcy was like, from here to where you are. So in the ocean. And this looked at me like I was one of their kind. Trained.

[Esther Povitsky]

Nice.

[David So]

I'm not a seal.

[Kalilah]

That's sweet.

[David So]

It scared the. Out of me because in that moment, you're vulnerable. You're like, if this person, if he wanted to take my ass, he could take my ass. Like, there's nothing I could do because they're just so. It's their element, right? And I'm just looking at this, looking back at me, and I'm screaming because, you know, it was shocking because I was faced this way, and I turned around and I. You know, you could kind of hear the muffle monk seal. I'm like, what? And this mother just like this. Like, are you. Are you one of me? Like, you got to look like one of those moments.

[Kalilah]

No, you're so right. Because I. I spearfish. And if there's a monksy allowed. That's. I wrap it up, I go right back to shore. Yeah. Because they're, they're looking for like a free meal, right. And they're pretty, like aggressive, which they have the right to be. Like, that's their station. And I. If I shoot a fish, you best believe like, that fish is gone. By the way, turtles do the same thing. But here's Raimana right here. Wow, look at, look at this. Esther. That could be you.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's too scary.

[Jules]

That's not the one that did Doja cat.

[Kalilah]

Yes, he did Doja Cat.

[Jules]

That's cool.

[Kalilah]

Oh, that's. That's way. Yeah, that. No, no, no, no, no. Those ones are fine.

[David So]

During search season, if you guys are in Oahu, if you go to like sunset, that's where they do all the surf competitions. Those waves are frightening. Like, they're like building sized hall.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

How do you surf that? I don't understand that at all.

[Kalilah]

No, you have like, if you didn't already start doing that your whole life, like, it's just a death wish.

[David So]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

That's why you see those people get like swept up all the time. Like tourists who don't like, understand waves and they like, are playing by the shore and I'm like, no, no, no. Like, you will get taken.

[David So]

There's a very quickly. What's the beach on the east side? The one that has like the really hard, like sandy bricks? Yeah, dude. People always get wrecked there, dude. I saw a dude like break his arm there.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Every day.

[David So]

And they're like, don't go in there. Don't turn. Lands snap. Screaming. Disgusting. You should try it.

[Kalilah]

I will say, like, I do have a dream of taking you both out. Like snorkeling and diving.

[David So]

I like the ocean. I just don't want to go that deep in there there.

[Kalilah]

You don't have to. You can go at your own, like comfort level. And Esther, like, I know you say you don't know how to swim, but I do think you float really well.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you so much for that.

[Kalilah]

And I think that's all you need. Like, you don't need to know how to do laps. You just need to know how to float. If you float, you're fine. You could be out to sea, like lost and sea for 16 hours, just floating.

[David So]

Do you have any bucket list things that you want to do that you're scared to do now but you feel like you want to do it?

[Kalilah]

Like thrill seeking stuff. Stuff.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sometimes just flying in an airplane. I feel that.

[Kalilah]

I get that though. I. I Get the same.

[Jules]

But what's, like, the craziest thing, like, you've done, like, out of your comfort zone?

[Esther Povitsky]

I got on a motorcycle.

[Kalilah]

Ooh. With who?

[Esther Povitsky]

My dad's friend.

[Kalilah]

Weird.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. And then when I got on, he was like, remember when you wouldn't transfer your dad to the phone? It, like, sped off. I was scared.

[Kalilah]

You were just, like, holding him from the back?

[Esther Povitsky]

I think so, yeah. Just, like, around the block. My dad made me go.

[David So]

You're so timid.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I'm very timid.

[Kalilah]

But she does the scariest thing that I think, which is stand up in front of the crowd. That is the scariest thing.

[David So]

So frightening.

[Kalilah]

Public speaking. Are you kidding me? Like, sweaty armpits, immediately, I do think that you. You. You're a thrill seeker, just in a different. Different form.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, maybe. I guess I have a higher tolerance for, like, social thrills, you know? Like, I. I feel like I could embarrass. There's no embarrassing, you know, like, whatever. But I can't swim. I can't ride a bike. I am scared of flying, but I obviously do it all.

[David So]

You can't ride a bike?

[Esther Povitsky]

No. And I'd be too scared to learn. Like, it's not gonna happen.

[David So]

Why?

[Kalilah]

Because you can't ride a bike.

[Esther Povitsky]

Also, I think about how small I am. Like, the. The. When you're up on that bike, it's just like, you're so high up there. I don't know. It's scary.

[Kalilah]

I love how she did this. Like, you have to do this to see.

[David So]

Yeah. Like, I don't understand what you mean. Like, you. You can't. You can't swim either.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, but, like, what do you and your husband do?

[David So]

You guys just stare at each other all day?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Like, what are.

[Esther Povitsky]

What do you guys do? Couples, like, swim and ride bikes.

[David So]

Yeah. When we go to Hawaii, we. We swim, we travel together, we hike together, we bike together. She got me into road biking. We do a lot of things.

[Esther Povitsky]

Dave did make me go in the ocean a little bit in Hawaii.

[Kalilah]

Yes. I remember this. You guys are a big island, and we FaceTime later that day, and he was like, you went on a. A manta ray snorkel thing, or was it like, a dude?

[David So]

Them are scary, and they. They can't do anything.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't think that happened.

[Kalilah]

But we.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, we did. We did a little snorkel, though.

[Kalilah]

That's amazing there. That's it.

[David So]

And you don't want to do it again?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I would. I would snorkel again.

[David So]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like, that. I would See, that's ride a bike.

[Jules]

Yes. I can write it. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[David So]

I feel like she could do everything. How tall are you Coconuts with your feet and do a whole bunch.

[Jules]

Five.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Kalilah]

Can I tell you guys something really sad? My mom forced me to do a triathlon when I was 12. And it was like a sprint iron man. And I was like, I'm only a swimmer, I can't run and I can't like, like bike.

[David So]

But your mom's hella fit though.

[Kalilah]

She is really fit. And she was like, no, you're gonna beat everyone out of the water. Which was true. I did as soon I didn't have any bike experience. My everyone has one of those, like thin racer bikes, right? I had a mountain bike and my first triathlon at 12. Like the biggest scar on my body is from. Then I crashed so hard, I ate so much concrete.

[David So]

Dude, I'm not gonna lie. When I first saw a photo of your mom that you showed me, I thought it was Tulsi Gabber.

[Kalilah]

Really?

[David So]

Your mom has like that Tulsi Gabber look to her. She's like all fit and she had like that streak.

[Kalilah]

Is Tulsi really fit?

[David So]

Yeah, she's fit as.

[Kalilah]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[David So]

I thought your mom was like Tulsi Gabard. No joke. Like, when you showed me a photo, I thought you were joking around.

[Kalilah]

Oh, no. Yeah, my mom is like, really? But I think a lot of it is her genetics. You know how some people can just like build that frame and that six pack? Like, I've tried my whole life. I can never look like her.

[David So]

So like, I'm so curious because you don't bike, you don't swim, you don't have much hobbies.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I'm really working on that though.

[David So]

So what do you. What do you and Dave do then?

[Esther Povitsky]

All couples do the same thing. You watch shows, you eat.

[Kalilah]

Eating's big. Huge.

[Esther Povitsky]

You take walks.

[David So]

So you guys go restaurant exploring?

[Esther Povitsky]

We did. Now it's more cooking. But I mean, who is doing more than watching? Watching tv? That's what I. Who?

[David So]

I think a lot of people. Girl, what the. Life is short. You gotta go do some like, what do you do with your boyfriend that you yell at all the time?

[Jules]

We go to the beach like every weekend.

[David So]

Oh, C.C.

[Esther Povitsky]

What do you do there?

[Jules]

Surf surfing.

[Esther Povitsky]

Huh?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, but they go out like restaurant exploring a lot.

[Jules]

We also like food a lot, so we try like different restaurants.

[Kalilah]

But you guys don't go to concerts together. Why do you always go solo?

[Jules]

Cuz I hate concerts. Because there's so many people. We went one time in San Diego to his favorite band and that was just too much for me. So I don't want to go.

[David So]

You're fascinating.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't like crowds either.

[Jules]

It's too much. And then like they were like younger crowds, so they were like going crazy.

[David So]

They were doing what people do at a concert.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. You know, you really are like, you.

[David So]

Know, what do you, what do you like watching then? Like movies wise? Oh, you're a weebly.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[David So]

How big of a weed? Because I just went to an anime convention. Stinky people. What?

[Kalilah]

Really?

[David So]

What level? Look, I thought I was an anime fan. I go to an anime convention. I. I'm not like, it's like insane.

[Jules]

Yeah, I don't do that.

[David So]

I don't do that because, you know, like a lot of my fans are anime because they know I like anime as well. But when they start talking to me about these cartoons and shit, I'm like, what the fuck are you saying, dude? Like, do you go outside, brush your teeth? Please, dude. The amount of like terrible dental hygiene in an anime convention is unreal. And I don't understand why. It's like you could watch anime. Just bathe a little.

[Kalilah]

Do you think that there's an association between loving anime and being depression? You think? Jules, tell us. She's hardcore anime.

[Jules]

I don't know. I brush my teeth every day.

[David So]

But you've been to those conventions, right?

[Jules]

No, I don't, I don't. I. I don't know. I just don't go there.

[David So]

It's interesting, right? Because it's like what you see like on TV of the greasy haired kid that doesn't go out much.

[Kalilah]

Like the shut in there's like, like.

[David So]

I would say 30 of them are like that, right? And I was a. I was a little shocked because I'm like, holy. I could like visibly see the plaque in your teeth, which is insane. And I'm just like, what. I don't understand what that has to do with like watching. Why is it that. That's the thing. Thing. I don't get it. Because I watched anime since I was a kid. I've been watching One Piece since I was 12.

[Kalilah]

That's her. She loves One Piece.

[David So]

Oh, you do?

[Jules]

I've caught up to it. Do you read the manga?

[David So]

I stopped. So I honestly, I stopped after watching, you know, the Impel down series. And then I took a fat break and then I had to play catch up after. So once he got into his last gear, I was like, Oh, I gotta start re watching everything. But, yeah, I've been watching this since I was a little. Since I was in junior high.

[Jules]

I started watching it last year and I caught up to it.

[David So]

Dan, girl, you ain't got a Life. There's like, 800 episodes.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

Holy.

[Esther Povitsky]

Students can watch so much. I like, I watched all the Office when I was in college. Like, so much love the Office. Yeah. I feel like you just have time.

[Kalilah]

As someone that's trying to get in to anime. What is a good starter? I'm not really sure.

[David So]

No disrespect. Something different to anime fans, by the way, but you guys know what I'm talking about out when you go to these conventions, right? There's like. I feel like 70. It's like, same thing with Marvel fans and DC comic fans. Right. Oh, what I did find out, though, from watching Love on the Spectrum, which was one of my.

[Kalilah]

Which one? Australia or us?

[David So]

The us one.

[Kalilah]

Okay. Who do you have?

[David So]

Well, I might. From my wife.

[Kalilah]

I respect the.

[David So]

Out of me. She was like, oh, you're just like, one of them. I'm like, all right, relax. But.

[Kalilah]

But, like, honestly, though.

[David So]

Okay. Yeah. All right. Well. All right.

[Kalilah]

Which is, like, a great thing because, like, I think, you know, you're very magical in that way.

[David So]

Well, when I saw them, like, a few of the people were huge, like, Disney and Marvel fans, and they love comic. I was like, oh, I think some of these kids are just, like, on the Spectrum. That's why I started to realize maybe it could be a huge thing.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. And I think that, you know, a lot of people who are, like, neurodivergent, have, like, an expansive imagination and are able to kind of, like, really appreciate, like, because anime is like, it's not. Not in. The themes are so deep.

[David So]

Oh, they get deep.

[Kalilah]

I mean, so deep. Deeper than any movie I've ever watched. Deeper than any, like, anything else. Like, it's almost like, like, 10 levels up.

[David So]

Like, top three animes that you would give to people to watch.

[Jules]

Jujutsu Kaisen, Hunter, Hunter.

[Kalilah]

I think Esther and I are. Keep going, though.

[David So]

Go ahead. I think Hunter Hunter is a shitty version of One Piece, I guess. Yeah.

[Jules]

And One Piece, But One Piece is so long and people complain about it, but once you're hooked to it, you can't get enough. That's what I think.

[David So]

Yeah. If you were to be introduced to anime, it depends on, like, your genre that you like. Right. If you like thrillers, I would always suggest Death Note. Death Note is. And it's only, like, 20 episodes.

[Kalilah]

Didn't they do like a live action one?

[Jules]

That was so bad.

[David So]

So bad.

[Kalilah]

I know. I tried watching that one. I tried watching the One Piece One either. I don't like it.

[David So]

It's gonna take you forever. Yeah.

[Jules]

People.

[David So]

You'll love or hate it.

[Kalilah]

No, no, no. Like the live. The. The. Wasn't there a lot of action? Yeah. I didn't like it.

[David So]

Gripes about that. But a lot of people liked it for what it is because there's been so many bad live actions.

[Kalilah]

Yeah.

[David So]

But Death Note would be probably one of the first things I would show people. If you're not into. Because anime has this weird perversion where the. They. It's called fan service. Where they'll have like random big titty out. It's just like the most random thing ever. Like they'll just be talking in a tit will come out. Just like. What the. Does this have to do with anything at all? But they call those fan service moments. So I would stay away from any kind of anime that gives fan service too much because it's not. It's just there for like the. You know. The perverted Little Weebs.

[Kalilah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David So]

Death Note is about somebody who gains this notebook and it. And it's. And it's basically about morality. Like who gets to live and who gets to die. And so somebody who has a God complex gets this book from the Grim reaper himself. And whoever. When he writes the name and how the person dies. He gets to choose how they die. And he's trying to change the world. What he believes is for the better. Right?

[Kalilah]

Yeah. It's so complex.

[David So]

It's murder. So it's such a weird, like complex story about morality.

[Kalilah]

What about the. Like if you have kids. Like anime is not obviously Pokemon. Yeah. That's true.

[David So]

Right? You got this kid who stays like. Yeah, there you go. You look like a Pikachu.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. I used to pretend I was a Pikachu.

[David So]

Really?

[Esther Povitsky]

Maybe.

[Kalilah]

I have a. I have a question about just anime in general. Like. Like Jules was obsessed with this one. And I actually even bought her birthday gifts around this anime. Anime that she liked. The whole. Yeah. Haikyuu. It's literally only about volleyball. Like it's about a bunch of young kids playing volleyball. Is that the whole premise of the show?

[Jules]

Yeah. But there's so much to it just than just volleyball though. Because you get to see their friendship at the end. How the main character who doesn't know anything about volleyball but Wants to be good at it. And you see him go from level zero to, like, the best, and it's just. I don't know. I love that show so much.

[Kalilah]

And then you were like, in love with one of the guys, right?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

You have like full blown crushes on anime characters.

[Jules]

Yeah, I even watch Hentai.

[Kalilah]

Oh, all right.

[David So]

So here we go. So that wraps up this episode. You watch Hentai?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[David So]

You Okay.

[Jules]

I prefer Hentai sometimes.

[David So]

This is fascinating to me right now. This is wild. You watch cartoons each other. That's so wild.

[Esther Povitsky]

You don't.

[Jules]

You do.

[David So]

Absolutely not. Why the fuck would I? There's real people I would watch rather fuck than a cartoon. Are you insane?

[Jules]

I know sometimes I need that paper.

[David So]

Cut in my pussy. Please. Like, what do you want? What do you want from a cartoon?

[Jules]

It's just. I don't know, it's Sometimes it's better.

[David So]

What? What? What? What is better? They're enlarged eyeballs that cover 80% of their fucking face.

[Jules]

Yeah, I like it more.

[David So]

Jesus Christ.

[Kalilah]

I will say, I will defend you in that. I don't like to see real men in porn. The moment their face shows up on screen, I'm out. I'm out.

[David So]

You're dude.

[Kalilah]

Then why.

[David So]

You know when guys, like, watch porn and their face pops up, it's like I put my hand over his face real quick. Done. We just have to move. Like when they do the upside down ball shot, I don't know who that cameraman is, but nobody asked for it. Nobody. Nobody asked for that shot. Who the is the guy? Like, I don't. I still till this day don't understand that shot. And you just see this ball sack, just bog bong, bog. I'm like, please just scrub through this, please.

[Kalilah]

Well, for me it's like stranger danger. Like, I didn't consent to this experience.

[Esther Povitsky]

With you to that face.

[Kalilah]

Yeah, it's like, who are you? Like, what do you like? Like, you know, like, I know nothing about your hobbies. Like, please get the off my screen.

[David So]

I know nothing about your hobbies.

[Kalilah]

Like, I feel safe being around, like a woman.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you ever watch Marge Simpson porn?

[Jules]

Oh, that's too much for me.

[Kalilah]

Do you, Esther?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, but I've seen the ads.

[David So]

Yes, with her raspy ass smoker voice.

[Kalilah]

Wait, what is it? Tell us more about Mark.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't know anything more about it. Okay. It ends there.

[David So]

Sure you don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

I was trying to find out from.

[Kalilah]

Her because somehow that's very Esther coded.

[David So]

Do you. Do you have a specific Hentai movie? That you watch?

[Jules]

No, I just. Well, you know. Jujutsu, Kaisen, Gojo. Yeah, that's what I look for.

[David So]

You're fascinating. I never met a girl who openly talks about watching hentai. I thought that's like a guy thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

I never knew anyone watch that.

[Kalilah]

It's so popular in Japan. It's all. I mean, I went on tour with an anime group and they. That's the only thing they watch. And the most popular thing is a hot woman with big boobs and a penis. What the fuck?

[David So]

Shit, dude, you. So you go to the mainstream anime and then you look the Hentai version of that.

[Jules]

And there's even like cosplayers that dress up as like the anime guys. But she's a woman and she just does like, like pictures. Like kind of like sexual pictures. And I follow. And it's like, it's so hot to me.

[David So]

Would it. Does your boyfriend dress up in anime characters when you guys have sex? No. Yes, he does.

[Jules]

He does. No, no, no.

[David So]

If he did, Would you like it though?

[Jules]

Maybe.

[David So]

Hey, are you watching this? I just gave you a. The key to the universe. Just dress up as a cartoon and. Oh my God, you're interesting.

[Kalilah]

We're so basic compared to the young ones. The young ones, we're boring. We were like, yeah, we're. We're like missionary. Oh, how exciting.

[Jules]

But you've never seen Hentai at all.

[Kalilah]

You know, I have seen Hentai. It's just not what I was like drawn to. But you know, I stay open, happen some of the. That I watch. Also very alarming.

[David So]

I knew a guy in high school that used to sell VCDs with hentai in it. And he would sell it to all the kids in the school.

[Kalilah]

But you know, explain what a VCD is. You got him.

[David So]

It's a video cd. So at the time. Oh, that's right. You're Hella Young. So VCDs were just like CDs with movies in it, right? And you could play it.

[Jules]

Oh yeah.

[David So]

And you have to get VCD player in order to play it. So he would use lime wire.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, it's not a dvd.

[David So]

No, it's not a dvd.

[Esther Povitsky]

Is it like it has the file on.

[David So]

It's a video cd. God damn it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think I'm older than you also.

[David So]

How do you not know this? So VCDs. And they would. You would have to get a VCD player to play it, but it wasn't a DVD. So when Blu Ray started coming out in DVDs, it kind of changed the game because the bit Rate was so high. It's amazing quality. VCDs are not like that. So they would sell, like, porn and shit. But there was a dude in my high school was a black dude that used to sell a VCD of Hentai, and guess what his number one customer base was? Black dudes.

[Kalilah]

Really?

[David So]

They loved hentai, which is the weirdest thing. You would have been a great clientele for him. You would have bought so much from him. Yeah. Holy, that's so weird.

[Kalilah]

What I found funniest when I first moved in with Bobby, like, 15 years ago was everything in his house was an absolute, like, wreck, like, mess. Every. There's, like, piles of shoes everywhere. The most organized thing that he had, the only thing that was organized was his porn collection because it was like, the cd.

[David So]

He had a porn collection?

[Kalilah]

Yeah. And like, his most prized one was the. All of the. It was just, like, Japanese, like. Like, what do you call it? Not corporate man. What do you call when.

[David So]

A salary man. Salary man, Right. The everyday person.

[Kalilah]

Company man. Oh, yeah. And they. It was just like. Like, older Asian dude porn. And it was so well organized and well, like, labeled.

[David So]

I was like, you're just like, condom socks everywhere, but this pristine dvd.

[Kalilah]

No, that's true.

[David So]

There's no dust whatsoever.

[Kalilah]

Like, he, like, cleans it every day.

[David So]

Japanese porn is one of. I. I never like that. Too squeaky, too loud, Way too pixelated. I don't understand that.

[Kalilah]

Pixelated?

[David So]

Japanese porn is pixelated.

[Kalilah]

It. Oh, yeah. I only associated to, like, lots of, like, contraptions.

[David So]

Just a lot of, like, squeaking. Like, their voice is so squeaky. And they always go for the voice. They always just look like they don't want to have sex all the time. Yeah, like, that's their fetish. Like, look like you don't want it, but then you're saying that you want it. And it was just a weird thing. And they, like the innocence thing. I saw, like, a little YouTube doc on it because.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sorry, that is how I acted. Dare Queen. Like, I walk in, I look like I don't want it, but then I'm like, I'll take a large Oreo mint Blizzard, please.

[David So]

They're like, get this freak out of here.

[Kalilah]

Interestingly enough, I've called you a Japanese boy many times.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is true.

[Kalilah]

I think Esther's essence is that of, like, a young, adolescent, prepubescent Japanese boy.

[David So]

Oh, I could kind of see that.

[Kalilah]

Right?

[David So]

Hey, you're gonna get her horny. Relax. She's getting hot right now.

[Esther Povitsky]

On that note, let's. Let's Put an end to Girls Day right here. David, thank you for joining us for this Girls Up All Girls episode.

[David So]

I've learned so much.

[Esther Povitsky]

Where can people find more of you?

[David So]

You can find me at Genius Brain podcast. Also the Casuals MMA with Gilbert as our leading captain.

[Kalilah]

You guys are killing that one.

[David So]

Yeah, we got a lot of great guests. We actually just had T.J. diller show on.

[Kalilah]

Amazing. Yeah, I love him.

[David So]

He's. Man, his story is really good, you guys. That's going to come up in a couple of weeks. Secret Society just launched their fall collection about a month ago. It was a little behind a lot of issues with it. So our spring and our fall launch launch together. But it's actually my favorite line till this day. We've definitely upped our collection. Fashion Basics. It's like high quality fashion basics at a fair price.

[Kalilah]

Such a great name. I love Secret Society.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is a full name.

[David So]

We'll grab you guys a couple of pieces. Super nice. Take a look at the catalog, but make sure you guys cop that stuff. Genius Brain is going to have another live comedy show, most likely in February. We're going to try to do another one in December, but February, we're going to probably do a way bigger venue, so get ready for that.

[Kalilah]

Oh, and also Juneb.

[David So]

Oh, yes, Juneb. I'm so sorry. Junebi is my matcha spot. We have what? Yes. So we own in Hawaii.

[Jules]

It's too.

[David So]

Yeah, So I own my own personal store out in Hawaii in W. If you guys want to go ahead and check that out. We do have stores all over Los Angeles and California. We're in Houston, Jersey, just all over the place. We're. I think we're slated to open up another 10 next year, so go support that, please. Thank you very much.

[Esther Povitsky]

And yeah, and I will be in Austin, Texas, November 22nd, 23rd, and I have a solo podcast. You can get all that information at the link link in the description. Anything else, you guys?

[Kalilah]

Yeah, if you guys have ever had Bell's palsy, please like write me. I am taking all tips and suggestions. Help me heal my face. 2024.

[Esther Povitsky]

What about EB?

[Kalilah]

Oh, that's right. Thank you.

[David So]

We're so bad.

[Kalilah]

I'm so good at promoting other people's stuff, but my own guys. EB Ocean Club. It's my hair care line we launched in May. I love all of your feedback. Go to Ebocean Club, follow EBB Ocean Club on Instagram and yeah, it's reef safe hyper clean hair care. You. I. I gave you something.

[David So]

It's awesome.

[Kalilah]

Okay, good.

[Esther Povitsky]

Jules, you have biology class later today.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kalilah]

Is it. Is it bio today?

[Jules]

Microbio lab. We have to do the unknown.

[Kalilah]

Unknowns are the best part of microbiome. Let me help you.

[Jules]

It's the worst.

[Kalilah]

Use me for something. I'm always like, use me for the science stuff. And she never does. You know why? Because she's smart. She gets straight A's on everything. Yeah, I can't. I'm always trying to offer my services to her because I was a. A tutor in college and for microbio a nat physio and she doesn't need me. It's like my I'm useless to her.

[David So]

Damn straight A's. I never had that.

[Kalilah]

I know, right?

[Esther Povitsky]

Jewels, anything you want to plug my Instagram?

[Jules]

Rudy. Jewels. That's it.

[Kalilah]

Yay.

[David So]

Happy birthday.

[Esther Povitsky]

As always with a brand new episode. We love you slugs. Thank you for being in our family. We love you. Goodbye.