We're Graduating from College! ft. Jules & Jenna

Summary

Trash Tuesday Episode Summary: "We're Graduating from College! ft. Jules & Jenna"

Release Date: May 20, 2025

In this lively and candid episode of Trash Tuesday, hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn join forces with guests Jules and Jenna to celebrate graduation while unpacking a myriad of relatable and humorous topics ranging from college experiences to personal relationships. Here's a detailed recap of their engaging conversation.

---

1. Sharing Deodorants and Cultural Differences

The episode kicks off with Esther sharing a quirky anecdote about sharing deodorant with Dave:
Esther: "We share a deodorant." [00:00]

This leads to a humorous debate about the "crystal from Whole Foods" deodorant, highlighting different preferences: Jenna: "I don't like their scents." [00:02]
Esther: "No, it's unscented." [00:14]
Jenna: "I scratch and sniff her armpit like a sticker, hoping to find a scent, and there's not a scent." [00:39]

They delve into cultural nuances, noting how some family members, particularly in Asian households, might forego deodorants altogether.

---

2. Promoting Patreon and Community Engagement

Khalyla passionately promotes their Patreon, emphasizing exclusive content and community support:
Esther: "We have a brand new episode on there pretty much every week for you... it's only $5." [01:28]
Khalyla: "It's only $5... We're Asian and Jewish. We're giving you a good deal." [02:15]

They acknowledge their dedicated listeners, affectionately termed "golden slugs," and encourage fans to join for additional vlogs and behind-the-scenes content.

---

3. Graduation and College Memories

The conversation shifts to Jules' impending graduation, sparking nostalgia about their college days:
Esther: "Welcome to our college-themed episode." [03:00]
Kalila: "I actually just found some of my notebooks from College..." [04:26]
Jenna: "I did organic chemistry for a whole year and I did synthesis. If I were to look at that notebook now, that was like, my..." [04:55]

They reminisce about academic struggles, balancing majors, and the evolution of their study habits, with Khalyla sharing her experience of managing a theater major alongside challenging math classes.

---

4. Navigating Relationships and Emotional Challenges

Jenna opens up about her past relationship challenges:
Jenna: "I was in New York, and then he sent me just, like, insane barrage of, like, really crazy text messages." [13:07]
Jules: "This is the first time Jules has ever, like, been like, no, you need to never speak to this person again." [13:36]

The hosts discuss emotional abuse and the importance of seeking support. They contrast their own tendencies to either delay sharing personal struggles or promptly address them, highlighting differences in coping mechanisms: Esther: "You guys will hold it really calmly and casually." [15:02]
Jenna: "I don't want to put that on your day." [15:26]

---

5. Majors Turn-ons and Turn-offs Game

Engaging in a playful segment, the hosts list academic majors they find attractive or unattractive in potential partners:

• History Major: Kalila: "Love a history major because you can explain something to you." [18:16]
  Esther: "We have a game called Professor Dave where when I don't know about something, he'll give an actual lecture." [19:14]

• Film Major: Esther: "Film major. I'm going." [19:26]
  Kalila: "I just picture people talking about Hitchcock." [20:21]

• Theater Major: Kalila: "Like, you can tell that I was a thespian." [25:34]
  Esther: "Theater Major... Ick." [25:00]

They humorously critique each major, reflecting personal stereotypes and preferences while keeping the tone lighthearted.

---

6. Roommate Deal Breakers

The discussion transitions to identifying potential roommate deal breakers in a college setting:

• Watching TikToks without headphones: Jenna: "I'm okay with that." [44:23]

• Having loud sex twice a week: Khalila: "Who cares? As long as it doesn't wake me." [44:35]
  Esther: "They have loud sex... that's a little too, like, performative." [44:33]

They debate the boundaries of privacy and mutual respect in shared living spaces, blending personal anecdotes with humor.

---

7. Sexual Stories and Preferences

A candid and humorous segment where hosts and guests discuss their sexual preferences and experiences:

• Jules on Preferences: Jules: "I prefer brown, you know, or purple or, like, black or whatever." [39:00]

• Discussions on Masturbation: Kalila: "I loved it... he would be, like, also kind of touching me." [51:22]
  Jenna: "I am like, Elle... I will claw your eyes out." [51:32]

They explore personal boundaries, societal perceptions of sex, and share lighthearted stories from their youth.

---

8. Business Promotions and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the hosts promote their entrepreneurial ventures:

• Khalyla’s Deodorant Line: Jenna: "One of those friends is me, which is why I created M. It is super clean hair care..." [29:04]
  Khalyla: "BuytiaJenna.com and Potluck Local store." [30:06]

• Esther’s Comedy Shows: Esther: "I have another show at The Comedy Store May 31st..." [28:43]

They also encourage listeners to join their Patreon for exclusive content and further engage with their growing community.

---

9. Conclusion and Congratulations

In their closing remarks, the hosts offer heartfelt congratulations to Jules on her graduation while humorously referencing Khalyla's brief mention as a dropout:

Esther: "Congratulations, Jules. Congratulations to our only dropout." [56:21]
Kalila: "I'm the one you asked if you should drop out and I said, yeah." [56:38]

They invite listeners to share their own graduation or dropout stories in the comments and tease future episodes filled with more relatable "trash" conversations.

---

Notable Quotes

• Esther: "This is Millennial versus Gen Z. Oh, my God." [00:59]
• Jenna: "You're a nasty little..." [09:00]
• Khalila: "I diedmface because I'm looking at a fucking dog." [12:05]
• Jules: "I've never had a BBC, but I want to." [39:50]
• Jenna: "I cannot giggle and be horny at the same time. It is physically impossible for me to go..." [11:17]
• Esther: "You have to make one." [26:37]

---

Tune in next Tuesday for more "Trash Tuesday" where Esther and Khalyla continue to unload their traumas, intrusive thoughts, and wild takes for all the sluggies out there to love, hate, or relate. Don’t forget to follow them on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube for additional content!

---

Follow Us:

• Instagram: Trash Tuesday
• TikTok: Trash Tuesday
• YouTube: Hit Our Buttons
• Khalyla Kuhn: @khalamityk
• Esther Povitsky: @esthermonster
• Patreon: Trash Tuesday Podcast Patreon

Transcript

[Esther]

So you know how Dave has been out of town for a month?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

We share a deodorant.

[Jenna]

What kind? I get that.

[Esther]

The crystal from Whole Foods.

[Kalila]

Okay, you know that one?

[Jenna]

I do know which one, but I don't like that one.

[Esther]

Why not?

[Jenna]

I don't like their scents.

[Esther]

No, it's unscented.

[Jenna]

Oh, it's unscented. I like that, but.

[Esther]

So my deodorant is just out of town.

[Jenna]

Okay, I do want to talk about this. I do want to talk about this.

[Esther]

Like you're just ignoring.

[Jenna]

No, because I have family that is very anti deodorant.

[Esther]

Okay?

[Jenna]

Including my mom, who never wears deodorant.

[Esther]

But you guys are Asian.

[Jenna]

I know. She really doesn't smell.

[Kalila]

It's crazy.

[Jenna]

I scratch and sniff her armpit like a sticker, hoping to find a scent, and there's not a scent.

[Kalila]

Guys. Yeah, you never smell.

[Jenna]

Jules.

[Esther]

I was like, get in camera.

[Kalila]

You're late. She was not tripping at all.

[Jenna]

No, she doesn't care.

[Kalila]

You're not stressed that you're really. She goes, oh, because I'm always late.

[Jenna]

You think she gives a about us?

[Kalila]

My heart was pounding today when the time went up seven minutes.

[Esther]

This is Millennial versus Gen Z. Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

Wait, Jules, Are those Bobby's, too?

[Esther]

No, those are from Urban Outfitters. I asked her on Friday night when she came over. We had a Friday night hang. Just kidding. She was babysitting.

[Jenna]

But Jules is our babysitter.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I'm sorry. Donuts on you.

[Kalila]

What? The slug community are the best. I just have to say, I've already seen three people this week who are like, I absolutely love that podcast. It is my favorite. I feel like I'm hanging out with my friends.

[Esther]

You guys. Yeah, this girl Diana on the Patreon. We have a brand new episode on there pretty much every week for you. Plus, we have vlogs. Plus, we are talking about things we just don't get to on the regular show. And shout out to our golden slugs, Brandon and Thomas. And you guys, trust me, you're gonna love the Patreon. Like we're delivering. If you've been a longtime fan and you're just craving a little more of us, you will not regret it. Five dollars, by the way. For all that we've done. For all that we've.

[Jenna]

All the.

[Esther]

All that we've given you.

[Kalila]

It's only $5.

[Esther]

For $10, you get episodes early.

[Jenna]

But then we also have finom relationships with Thomas and Brandon.

[Esther]

Our daddies.

[Jenna]

Our daddies are golden slug. Daddies.

[Kalila]

I love that.

[Esther]

It's a good deal. Trust us.

[Kalila]

A dollar per.

[Esther]

We're Asian and Jewish. We're giving you a good deal.

[Kalila]

It is a really good deal.

[Jenna]

Thank you for saying that.

[Jules]

Donut F on me. Yeah, it was all over my socks and my sweatpants.

[Esther]

Wait, did you tell me that she did it all over you?

[Jules]

I didn't notice. I thought she did it on the carpet. And then I went home and it was still on me. The smell.

[Esther]

I'm so sorry.

[Jules]

It's okay.

[Esther]

I'm really sorry.

[Kalila]

Should be. Do you never express her anal glands?

[Esther]

Wait, no stubs.

[Jenna]

Fish butted on my pillow.

[Esther]

Jules. I don't. She never does that. What?

[Jules]

So was she just so nervous?

[Esther]

Like, I don't know. Because you said she was shaking.

[Jenna]

Just excited.

[Jules]

Maybe she was shaking the whole time, too.

[Kalila]

So it's all Esther's fault.

[Jenna]

No, I'm not.

[Esther]

That is. It is because an inappropriate way to treat a mother.

[Jenna]

Welcome to our college themed episode. I forgot that we had a theme.

[Kalila]

I love your college gear. It's just dark. Because those were dark years.

[Esther]

Then I need that outfit.

[Jenna]

They were dark in the beginning, but I finished on top.

[Kalila]

Okay, well, that's why you have a lay.

[Jenna]

No, this is for Jules. She's graduating next week.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God. Jules, I'm gonna relay.

[Esther]

How do you feel?

[Jenna]

What are your grades, like, as a door?

[Jules]

Don't ask. Well, right now, she got so serious. It's like, don't ask.

[Kalila]

Don't ask.

[Jules]

Bees.

[Jenna]

Bees are so good.

[Jules]

But after I took a test yesterday, and that was so bad.

[Jenna]

Who cares? It's. You have one week left. Who gives a shit? No employer is going to be like, let me see your grades. Your college report card. Not one.

[Esther]

These are good because it shows you or you get good grades, but you're also, like, doing other things in life.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Like, if you get A's, you're kind of like, you have. Do you have any friends? I don't know.

[Kalila]

Did I.

[Esther]

Did you get A's? There's no. You're so dumb. There's no way you got A's.

[Kalila]

Yeah, dude. And I was on scholarship for my academics, which is crazy.

[Jenna]

You also.

[Kalila]

I had to maintain a 3.6 GPA every semester.

[Esther]

Jenna, in college, would I just picture her, like, sitting in a. Like, in the hallway outside my dorm? Like, three bowls of cereal deep. Just like eyes in a book. But I don't know. It's more like a performance than like, bro.

[Kalila]

I actually just found some of my notebooks from College, the way that I found it is f ked up. My mom was using as a to do list, but she didn't want to throw out all of my notes from college.

[Jenna]

I wouldn't either. If I still had mine. I'd keep them because it reminds me of how smart I used to be and how much information I. The fact that I did organic chemistry for a whole year and I did synthesis. And if I were to look at that notebook now, that was like, my.

[Kalila]

Favorite because it made sense to me because there was, like, math involved.

[Jenna]

That synthesis drowned me. So for a whole year, you do organic chemistry plus a lab. If I were to look at my notes now, I'm like, I don't know who wrote that? I don't understand a thing.

[Kalila]

But also different from yours. Is that when I was doing organic doing. When I was doing organic chemistry.

[Esther]

Why were you taking your theater major?

[Kalila]

I know. I took an extra math class as well because I was like, oh, this is fun. It was horrible. I made my life miserable. But the difference between mine and yours was it was like my only class of that. You had probably 10 science classes.

[Jenna]

Yeah, listen, So I have a theory. So the way my mom describes bodily scents, there's actually levels to the game. I know you were saying, Esther, you're ripe. You're right. Your armpits don't smell good. Right. But is it that. Is it that she. It's fully ripe or perhaps. No, no, no. Because in the. Jules, what's the first level? Is Piyot. Piyot. Right?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

And is not bad. Is kind of like a cute little.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I like. Like a little.

[Esther]

I'm Piot. Piot all the time.

[Jenna]

Okay. Very cute. And then there's. What is amoy Pawes? It's like the day.

[Jules]

Yeah. Like, you're done for, like, work and everything. And then you go home and you.

[Jenna]

You smell like the day is like amoi pawist. Right.

[Kalila]

Which is also kind of okay. Right.

[Jenna]

It's sometimes on certain types of skin, I'm like, you smell like a chicken coop. Like you need a shower. But what's the other one? Anghit.

[Jules]

Anghit is Angit.

[Jenna]

Is supreme ripeness. Anghit is supreme ripeness. And I think my theory is that you actually only have piyot. Piyote.

[Esther]

Yeah, I'm just peel peeled all the time.

[Jenna]

Can you check her peo'd Piot?

[Esther]

Jana, Even when I'm out of the shower, I'm peo'd. Peo. Like, I can't control it. And I'm just So grateful that I feel finally seen by the Filipino culture, because in my culture, we don't have anything to explain me and for me to understand myself because I feel, like, so validated. Because I get home from work and I have the day on me.

[Jenna]

And it's cute.

[Kalila]

See, I smell because I didn't put deodorant on today.

[Jenna]

Is it anghit or is it.

[Jules]

I think it's just.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God. It's like I'm sweating and it's nasty.

[Jenna]

Ew.

[Kalila]

You just put your nose onto it.

[Jules]

No, it's. It's okay. It's fine.

[Jenna]

What's. What's the word?

[Esther]

Yeah, Jules, I'm sorry that donut anally leaked on you.

[Kalila]

Okay, but if you smell Esther. It's not if that's.

[Jules]

No, but I smelled Esther, too. Or the other week. It was fun.

[Jenna]

Yes.

[Kalila]

Okay. What about the other. Other week in Palm Springs?

[Jules]

Oh, yeah, that was.

[Kalila]

Your voice just dropped eight octaves.

[Esther]

I was traveling.

[Kalila]

I traveled yesterday.

[Jules]

But then don't some dudes like. Like the. At the. Like, the smell of the day and then they like to.

[Kalila]

Of course.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah, I. Oh, yeah, they do. Trust me, they like it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna name name of boyfriends. They put their nose right up there. Oh, yeah, they like it.

[Jenna]

But I like it, too. If I like you, I like all of your smell.

[Kalila]

Yeah, your smell is not like, I need to get out of the elevator. It's just distracting to me sometimes.

[Esther]

I think people like it.

[Jenna]

That's all.

[Kalila]

Yeah, people do.

[Jules]

Does Dave actually.

[Esther]

I don't know.

[Kalila]

I don't think he does. I do not think he does.

[Esther]

Dave has never been like, let me smell your armpit. But in the past, others have.

[Kalila]

This feels like. I don't know, like I'm watching Bridesmaids.

[Esther]

Oh, like you're now grossed out at my sexuality?

[Kalila]

No, no. Just at your performance of it. Oh. It seems like. Loser. I'm not. I'm not grossed out at all. I wish you would tell me more.

[Esther]

No, I just can't. It's just funny who the people are, and I don't want to.

[Kalila]

No, I'm not talking about that. I mean your sex life.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah.

[Kalila]

I'm not grossed out about your sex life at all. The stuff that Kalila has told me.

[Jenna]

What have I told you? I'm dirty. I'm nasty.

[Kalila]

Love it.

[Jenna]

I'm a nasty little.

[Kalila]

You know what I like about it? Is that you like me. Unlike what Esther thinks. Yeah, we just say it transparently, directly, gently. We're not like trying to make it nasty. We're just saying it factually.

[Jenna]

No, I'm a dirty.

[Esther]

Yeah, but you'd be saying it in.

[Jenna]

Your new I role played.

[Esther]

Do you role play in your new, new relationship?

[Jenna]

No.

[Esther]

Yeah, it's kind of. It's like kind of a nod.

[Jenna]

We're romancy.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

He's my prince.

[Esther]

I think.

[Jenna]

I love that he's my prince.

[Esther]

Wait, do you. Have you ever role played?

[Jules]

No, I don't think she's never played. Yeah, I don't think I can be that serious and think it's like real and then.

[Kalila]

Yeah, but part of it is also laughing at it. Being like, this is so silly.

[Jules]

Oh, so you guys laugh and then.

[Kalila]

I laugh during sex.

[Jenna]

I cannot laugh and be horny at the same time. It is physically impossible for me to go, hehehe, that was so funny. And then not dry up.

[Esther]

The funniest.

[Kalila]

Oh my God. I literally have been on.

[Esther]

Oh, why? See, look at. Klila doesn't do that. Klilah doesn't go, oh, you're gross, you're gross.

[Kalila]

But she's talking about her prince right now. She's not talking about her.

[Esther]

The air. Like, are you a male comic in the 80s? You're so, so gross.

[Kalila]

But I wasn't trying to be sexual. I was trying to be funny right now.

[Esther]

But it's gross.

[Kalila]

I was trying to do a funny thing that I've done that was funny. Not that was like, ooh, sexy.

[Esther]

Okay, go ahead, finish your little freak out. You're so nasty.

[Kalila]

I have laughed during sex. Like, I'm not.

[Esther]

You say that sitting still.

[Kalila]

Yeah, but you can't show it when you literally on a. You turn around and go. I literally said whatever the. I was like, touch that little dangly thing. They swing the back of my throat. I said one of the lines from that song because at the time I was so obsessed with wap.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

That I did that.

[Esther]

Remember when we were so obsessed with ass.

[Kalila]

Stop now. Make that hammer time. Yeah, I'm not a good sex, I guess.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I can't be funny. Sound off in the comments if you can giggle and come because it.

[Kalila]

I don't giggle. I'm like cackling and then coming. But does it take you out of.

[Jenna]

The sexual, like, energy?

[Esther]

Yeah, it takes you out of it.

[Kalila]

No, because I think like, laughter is a loose energy. Right. And so is being sexual. It's not like a tight energy. But it does make sense what you're saying.

[Esther]

For me, it's like we'll be, like, going at something.

[Kalila]

Oh, this is the first time she said anything sexual.

[Esther]

Yeah. Watch how, like, proper I am about it.

[Kalila]

It was gross because it was, like, fake going at something. It made me think of a mother talking about, like, about my mother or your mother saying, going at something.

[Esther]

Look at my posture and just how elegant I am when I speak about it.

[Kalila]

You look like Humpty Dumpty. We'll be going on the wall.

[Jenna]

Show us how you go at it, Esther.

[Esther]

Yeah, I'll be laying there like this.

[Kalila]

I'll cab a bell. Sweet silver bell.

[Esther]

Seem to say, throw kids away. And then I'll go like this. And then Dave will be like, what? And I'll go like. Like. And then it's donut. And I get so, like, I can't.

[Kalila]

Okay, well, that's like, you're taking it out of you two because you're looking at a fucking dog.

[Esther]

She's there. She'll, like. Sometimes she'll literally, like, walk up to us while it's happening. And it's so good.

[Kalila]

Well, it's happening. You're just weird about it.

[Esther]

No, you are. Say that sentence the way you would say it.

[Kalila]

Sometimes the dog will be there, like, while we're having sex.

[Jenna]

Yeah, that sounds appropriate, Esther.

[Esther]

It's happening.

[Kalila]

It's happening. Sounds like you're in a Handmaid's Tale. Yeah, that sounds a little bit too under his eye.

[Jenna]

Hold on. So Jules was, like, the final straw for me to break up with someone.

[Esther]

Why?

[Jenna]

I got into a pretty not healthy relationship after my breakup. I know this, but not the extent.

[Esther]

No, yeah, I know.

[Jenna]

And I kind of kept it under wraps because I'm just like. I don't need my family to know how he speaks to me. Oh, yeah, right. I was in New York.

[Kalila]

You're so hot. It's so hard to, like, listen to you.

[Jenna]

Thank you.

[Kalila]

I appreciate that. Focus. Okay.

[Jenna]

And I was in New York, and then he sent me just, like, insane barrage of, like, really crazy text messages. And I sent it to my sister, and then my sister sent it to Jules, and then she was like. She sent. This is the first time Jules has ever, like, been like, no, you need to never speak to this person again.

[Kalila]

I love that.

[Jenna]

Like, she was very parental with me, and she was like, this is not okay. Like, this is dead.

[Jules]

It was so tiring because, like, I would just hear. At the Goliath on the next room, just, like, every night, just screaming and, like, arguing at this guy.

[Kalila]

Yeah, it was so.

[Jenna]

Because everywhere I went, even if I was Gone for, like, five minutes. He thought I was just. It was crazy. And we weren't even exclusive. And he was, like, acting absolutely out of his.

[Esther]

Oh, you really hid this from me. Oh, I was in New York with you.

[Jenna]

Yeah. I hit it from everyone.

[Kalila]

She hit it for me, too. Don't worry.

[Esther]

But I don't care. I don't care about you. Well, I don't.

[Kalila]

If I were to say I knew, you'd be like, why did you know?

[Esther]

I wouldn't care if you knew. We have our own special connection that you would never.

[Kalila]

Special connection.

[Esther]

You would never understand all of this.

[Jenna]

To say as experienced as someone can be and grown an adult, you can still get sucked up, sucked into something.

[Esther]

I'm actually shocked by that because I would not have seen that for you.

[Kalila]

But it's because it did. This is who I think, right? Yeah. It's also because it didn't start that way. So that's what happens. It's not like you saw it and you chose to be a part of that. It did not start that way at all.

[Jenna]

And when someone, like, threatens, like, self harm if they don't get their way with you, to me, that is like the ultimate, like, manipulative, like, emotionally abusive.

[Esther]

You guys are similar where you will just go through something and then you'll wait for five years before you tell me, and I'll be like, okay, me. I'm like, the second it happens, I'm telling everyone everything. You guys will hold it really? So calmly and casually. Yes. Both of you do that. Do you do that?

[Jenna]

Yeah. She's the most delayed reporter, but I.

[Jules]

Think I've learned that from you, too.

[Jenna]

Like, why? Because I'm delayed?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Because I. Do you know what it is, Jules? I don't want to put that on your day.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

If I really need your help and I did eventually ask you for your advice. Right. I'm like, hey, is this crazy?

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Because I knew you would have, like, really good insight. But no, you're going about your life. I'm. I'm. I'm not going to put that on you.

[Kalila]

I think that I got to. I don't know if this is with you, too. I got to a certain age where that behavior in me started happening, where there was a delayed response. Because when I was younger, everyone's going through stuff, and there's not, like, real big life things that you feel like people can't give their focus to you.

[Jenna]

Right.

[Kalila]

Unless this is the last conversation that I'm going to have about this, I can't be like, I don't know how you guys.

[Esther]

Wait.

[Jenna]

Well, I think I got bad advice by. From watching Married at first sight.

[Kalila]

What?

[Jenna]

It's a show. I watch maths. I love it. Been watching since season one.

[Esther]

So one of what you do when you're not answering my call.

[Jenna]

Yes.

[Kalila]

This is what Kalila does when she's not answering your call.

[Jenna]

I, I. So one of the couples counselors on there was like, do not share fights with your. With your family members.

[Esther]

Yes.

[Jenna]

Because that's something you, as a couple should be working out. And I think I took that a little too far where it's like, even when someone was being abusive, I was like, okay, don't share it with your family because they'll think differently of him, and then they'll continue to have this idea even after we've already resulted as a couple.

[Kalila]

That makes sense. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it makes sense that that was your thought process, is what I'm saying. And there's a difference between arguing and mistreatment and abuse.

[Esther]

Yes.

[Kalila]

They're two different things.

[Esther]

That's a good. That was good. You said something good.

[Kalila]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Esther]

It's kind of juvenile when you think about it, to, like, go to your friends and complain about your partnership or whatever. It's like, I think it should be dealt with, like, within the couple or, like, a couple's therapist or something.

[Jenna]

As long as it's in the, like, no foul play.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Like, as long as they're not being abused or, you know, someone isn't, like, in a narcissistic trap or make sure.

[Kalila]

That you're also sharing, like, the good shit, because a lot of times you only share the bad shit. And then you wonder why your friends have this, like, perception of your partner and only a negative light. And it's like, well, bitch, you only done shared with me the bad stuff.

[Esther]

I have this. I've seen this go down with so many friends where I'm like, oh, this is so easy. Just break up with them. It's so, so, so bad. And then they never do, and they're always together. And you're like, finally, in. In my adulthood, I'm like, okay, clearly, things are good. They're only coming to me with the bad.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Because you know when someone did this and you're like, just break up. It's so easy, but you're missing the whole other piece.

[Jenna]

They're reporting a fraction.

[Esther]

Yeah. Okay, so it's college theme. Let's talk about majors and Minors that, like, might be an ick or a turn on. I feel like a business major. Ick.

[Kalila]

I love communications. Remember, everyone was communications.

[Jenna]

We're gonna go through a list, Jenna.

[Kalila]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna]

You're not just, like, throwing it out there. There's a list on the board.

[Kalila]

I'm not looking because I don't want to get a mean green.

[Jenna]

Oh, me green? Yeah, we gotta see her from me green.

[Kalila]

Okay, sorry.

[Esther]

History major.

[Kalila]

Wet.

[Jenna]

Turn on.

[Kalila]

Love it.

[Jenna]

Yeah, love a history major because you.

[Esther]

Know that then you'll be like, hanging out with that guy or girl, and then they'll be able to, like, explain something to you.

[Kalila]

Dude. For some reason, R knows so much history. I think it's because, like, his grandmother or whatever taught it or some. I don't know why I should. We'll be randomly somewhere and he's like, oh, yeah, that's because in 1588, so and so so and so here and blah, blah. And I'm like, what?

[Jules]

That's really hot.

[Jenna]

That's hot.

[Kalila]

How do you. He just constantly knows all this information.

[Jenna]

Right?

[Kalila]

And I don't know shit about. Fuck. I love it.

[Esther]

We have a game called Professor Dave where when I don't know about something, he'll get up and, like, give an actual lecture.

[Jenna]

That's a role play.

[Kalila]

I love that.

[Esther]

I know. Oh, my gosh.

[Kalila]

I'm gonna start that with oh, oh, yes, I'll be there.

[Esther]

Film major. I'm going.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with ick.

[Kalila]

Wait, does it have to be either or Ick.

[Esther]

Or it could be whatever. Do you have a middle tier?

[Kalila]

Yeah, middle tier is like, yeah, we could be friends. That'd be cool if I was friends with you.

[Jenna]

You know what your problem is, Jenna?

[Kalila]

What?

[Jenna]

What if I said to you our whole friendship I hate the most is your neutrality.

[Kalila]

Oh, yeah. I think a lot of people would agree with you. R will ask me, like, would you rather this or that will be laying in bed just like a fun. If you had to do this or that. And I go, well, but what if. And he's like, no, there's no in between. It's just this one or that one.

[Jenna]

Which is probably really good, like, tool to. Because life is nuanced. Right? You should be able to argue for both sides always. But in this case, does it turn you on or does it dry you up?

[Kalila]

Yeah, I'm not a good person. It's really. It's really hard for me to pick either or.

[Esther]

Okay, well, can you answer the question though?

[Kalila]

Film?

[Esther]

Yes. Can you Articulate why?

[Kalila]

I just picture people talking about like, yeah, Hitchcock. And I'm like, I don't give up.

[Jenna]

Exactly, exactly.

[Kalila]

I don't give no motherfucks even if you're my friend. You see, I don't give up.

[Jenna]

You see how amazing it is when you take a. A stance.

[Kalila]

This particularly happened to me just a couple days ago though. My friend was like, oh, I went to this place because they were having a film something and I was like, they were doing a like a 12 hour showing of all of his whoever's films. And I was like, it's like Titu Bobby too.

[Jenna]

Such a movie elitist. It's so, so he doesn't. If you don't know Kurosawa, if you don't know Paris, Texas, if you don't know being there who Chauncey Gardner is.

[Kalila]

You'Re basically like, I'm like flatlining right now.

[Jenna]

Exactly.

[Kalila]

But I think that's cool for that person to like love that shit and know that and care about it.

[Jenna]

Do you know how many times he's mentioned something and because I don't want to have the conversation of him like looking down at me and be like, oh gosh, like you're such a peasant for not knowing that. I've like googled shit on the side and quick synopsis so that I can come back and he'll be like, wow, you're so impressive. I can't believe you know that.

[Esther]

I've never in my 15 years thought to do that. I'm so.

[Kalila]

That is so. I know that you do that because.

[Jenna]

Then he just shuts the up and he doesn't explain it to me. If I say I've watched it and he's like, well, what's it about? And I can get. Then the conversation is done in 20 seconds.

[Esther]

You're a film elitist though.

[Jenna]

I am a film elitist in that I do have like a big, a broad knowledge of like broad knowledge of everything.

[Kalila]

Of musicians, of movies, of people, of shows, of history. You have broad knowledge of everything.

[Jenna]

I don't judge anyone's like choice in.

[Kalila]

Anything like, except if you have no choice.

[Jenna]

I like that your is all. Your playlist is all over the place. Like whatever makes you happy makes you happy. If it's like the makes you happy. Like the other day, you know what he did to me that to really enrage me is our whole relationship. I've asked him. There's this director from Hong Kong, he's like the most iconic director. His name is Wongar Wai and a lot of his movies are my favorite, favorite movies of all time. Chunking Express, in the Mood for Love. Just superior cinematic.

[Kalila]

Remember, a movie title is Psycho to me.

[Esther]

But it's like, that's a problem. And we actually. We have a doctor here that you need to have a seat with. Yeah, that's weird.

[Kalila]

Yeah, Like, I can't remember anything.

[Jenna]

And then he texts. I think I sent you the screenshot of the text, because I was like, what kind of psychotic is this? He texts me a little picture of the movie poster for in the Mood for Love. And he goes, hey, you should really watch this film after 10 years of me saying, you have to watch this. And he was like, I don't want to watch some Hong Kong director.

[Kalila]

I would have driven to his house.

[Jenna]

And I was like, how do you know about it? He said, oh, some girl I'm dating made me watch it. And then I was like, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

[Esther]

You really said that?

[Jenna]

I did.

[Esther]

I hate.

[Jenna]

I said, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

[Esther]

Then what happened?

[Jenna]

And then he called me, and he was like, I was just kidding.

[Esther]

Do you think it's true that.

[Jenna]

What?

[Esther]

He was just kidding.

[Jenna]

No, I think that a girl jogged. His probably was like, hey, you really. He was. He was dating a Chinese girl. And so the Chinese girl is probably, like, in the Mood for Love is just like, a superior film. Like, every frame is a photograph. And he was probably like, wow, let me watch that. And in the middle of it, he's probably like, oh, my God. Kalila told me to watch this. She's right. It's great. And then wanted to pierce my heart and then do this, by the way.

[Esther]

Is that not every girl's nightmare? You just laid out for the other girl where it's like, you show a guy something, of course, and then he thinks of another girl.

[Jenna]

Oh, you're giving me a different way of thinking about that.

[Esther]

That would kill me. I show a guy something I think is cool, and then he's like, oh, I need to show this to another girl. That is a knife in the chest.

[Kalila]

Because I thought you were gonna say the one where, like, you do all of the work and the emotional labor and you change them in ways that are just so wonderful, and then they're like, me, and then they break up with you or they're with someone else and they're just, like, that full.

[Esther]

That's a. That's a fantasy.

[Kalila]

That's not a fantasy. That has happened.

[Esther]

No.

[Kalila]

Are you kidding me?

[Esther]

Because people don't change that much. Where. Because I. I see that all the time.

[Kalila]

Yeah, they do.

[Esther]

Oh, he. I. You know, he's gonna be better for the next. I don't think so. I think it's fake.

[Jenna]

I think Jenna's right.

[Kalila]

No, I've seen it happen.

[Jenna]

I think so. I think they glow up with you.

[Kalila]

Maybe you just don't put that work in.

[Esther]

It's not about me.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

That is a hack.

[Kalila]

That's so smart.

[Jenna]

Don't make them better.

[Esther]

Yeah, you guys are out here making men better.

[Kalila]

I be cooking in the kitchen making them better. Add a little bit. Let's take a little bit of that out.

[Esther]

Not until we have a child together. Before that, I'm just. I'm not here to make your life better. I'm here to make it worse. I'm here to scare you. I'm here to trick you. I'm here to torture you. I'm not improving you.

[Jenna]

I was so smart.

[Kalila]

No, you're right, because it's like, why are we putting in all of that work?

[Jenna]

Okay, back to our board, guys. Theater major. Jules.

[Kalila]

Oh, God.

[Jules]

It depends, because I've.

[Kalila]

Does it depend on the gender?

[Jules]

No.

[Kalila]

Okay.

[Jules]

I had, like, a theater class, and they seem cool. It's just their energy is thespian. Thespian.

[Kalila]

Like, you can tell that I was a thespian. Yeah, it's bad.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And I was way more Esther.

[Jenna]

I saw that she had to code you just now. Can we roll the tapes?

[Esther]

I looked at her boobs.

[Kalila]

I was gonna say. Then she just looked right at my boobs when I looked at her.

[Esther]

Literally, like, if you really look, zoom in close. I was like, this, like, trying, like, shaking. Because I'm like. I know. Then the production will have to blur it out. They don't want to.

[Jenna]

So thespian ick. Theater ick. Okay, I'll go with that. Ick.

[Kalila]

For sure. Ick. 100% easy.

[Esther]

Health major.

[Jenna]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[Esther]

Ick.

[Jenna]

Because why?

[Esther]

Because men shouldn't care about their own health, and they shouldn't be researching.

[Kalila]

Oh, you're only thinking about.

[Jenna]

Yeah, man.

[Kalila]

Oh, yeah. I was just thinking in general.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Health is okay.

[Kalila]

Health is all right. Yeah.

[Jenna]

It's like, ick adjacent.

[Kalila]

You have to make one.

[Esther]

Do you remember those two guys that sat in the front row with us?

[Kalila]

Touch me again.

[Esther]

Do you remember, though?

[Kalila]

That's so nice.

[Esther]

Do you remember or not?

[Kalila]

Yes. The two doors with the glasses.

[Esther]

Yeah. It was like a huge lecture hall, and everyone would always sit in the back. And there'd be like, no one in the first 40 rows. And me and Jenna would always sit in the front row with these two guys.

[Kalila]

And the crazy thing about the front row is that it's like a movie theater, right? Because the teacher's on a podium. You're like this the whole time. Instead of sitting 40 rows back and looking at them like that, we're looking at slides like this. The whole.

[Esther]

That was the class where I asked you if I could have a bite of your food. And you said, how dare you ask me for a bite of my food when you know I have another class right after this. And it really. Like, I really thought it would turn me on.

[Jenna]

You know what's so funny? I never understood that behavior ever, when people don't just be like, yeah, of course. Here, have it. Until. Until I got pregnant. When aloha would be like, can I have a piece of mango? I would sneer. I'm like, who do you think you are? Like, I am literally like, d. I'm perishing. Like, how dare you ask me for this? Like, tiny, like grain of rice. Like, I was so angry. And I totally get it now.

[Kalila]

Well, but I wasn't pregnant. I was just fat. I just gained a bunch of weight. For me, it was more so that I had booked my days from 7:45 until 11:00pm at night.

[Esther]

You were so crazy.

[Kalila]

So crazy. And I didn't have any time in between.

[Jenna]

Wait, did you graduate?

[Kalila]

Yeah, I did.

[Jenna]

Wow. So you're the only dropout here.

[Kalila]

I didn't have any time between. And I had allergies. So I had planned my food so particularly that it was like, Esther would come. She wasn't just gonna take a bite. She was gonna be like, give me this sandwich.

[Esther]

I can't even picture. Cause now I never ask anyone for bites of anything. Cause I just don't want it.

[Jenna]

She scarred you.

[Esther]

Maybe.

[Kalila]

You literally learned how to be generous from me and how to share from me. Esther did not know how to share before me.

[Jenna]

Really?

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Sharing came really late for me in life.

[Jenna]

I see that.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because her and I, no matter what. Do you need something from here? Like, if she's.

[Kalila]

Yeah, we're shar.

[Esther]

I will have another show at The Comedy Store May 31st in the belly Room. You can get tickets at the link below.

[Kalila]

Tell us about the best shampoo, conditioner, hair product line. There's also the leave in spray. Leave in the leave and spray is next level. I have friends who cannot brush their hair or who cannot brush their kids.

[Jenna]

One of those friends is me, which is why I created M. It is super clean hair care. No nasties, no petrochemicals. It's reef safe. It smells delicious.

[Esther]

We love EB I have it in all my bathrooms. Go to ebooclub.com and I hear there may be new stuff coming.

[Jenna]

Maybe a lot of really fun stuff coming.

[Esther]

What? Oh, my God. We need the tea stuff.

[Kalila]

That makes it easier to travel with.

[Jenna]

EB Poss for the summer, possibly.

[Kalila]

Also, I'm running low on EB so tell us how you can buy it again.

[Jenna]

Eboceanclub.com and our Instagram at eboceanclub.

[Kalila]

So today we found out that me and Esther actually smell exactly the same. That was deodorant.

[Esther]

You smell so bad.

[Kalila]

Yeah. You didn't believe it because I be wearing pit stop that I be making. And you know me believing me that it works. Esther had no idea that I was gonna smell that bad. If you a stinky girl like us, which you are, because it's normal and it's natural, but you don't like the chemicals, go to buytiagenna.com where can we.

[Jenna]

Find it in person, though?

[Kalila]

Oh, at Potluck Local. It is a store in Highland Park. If you don't want to buy it online, but you just want to go, go to Potluck Local. It is a really cute store and they have it there for sale. I think there's only five left now. So go and get it. And if you want to get online, buy toagena.com and honestly, if you just.

[Jenna]

Want to smell like all of us.

[Esther]

It smells so good. Like, it's so good.

[Kalila]

Thank you. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Follow the Instagram by T Jenna.com.

[Esther]

Okay, this major is very. We have to be. Be really thoughtful about this one. Psychology.

[Jenna]

I. I have my answer.

[Kalila]

I'm gonna say no. Ick.

[Jenna]

Yeah, it's an ick.

[Esther]

I'm. I think it's good.

[Kalila]

You're disgusting.

[Esther]

It is also Dave's major, so I've had to learn to love it.

[Kalila]

No way.

[Jenna]

Was it an intentional. Like, I really actually want to get into psychology or was it because it's an easy. An easy thing to graduate with and you can get through college pretty fast.

[Esther]

I don't know. I know he wasn't looking for.

[Kalila]

Wasn't he like, at Harvard or something?

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

What if he's just so smart? Yeah.

[Jenna]

Wait, what do you think of psychology?

[Jules]

I just feel like they're gonna just gaslight and man therapies. You yeah.

[Jenna]

Therapy speak.

[Jules]

I just don't want to deal with that, so.

[Kalila]

Ick.

[Esther]

Yeah, it's. If it's the right person, though, they'll do it appropriately. Like, Dave will just be kind about his diagnosis of me. He also will always say things to me that I. I feel like maybe come from his psych major of, like, you can never know what's going on inside someone else's head. Like, he always has that. Which is, like, you're so not fun to gossip with. Like, because he just shuts it down.

[Jenna]

He's so decent. Yesterday, I had a moment of, like, rage, because I just needed to.

[Kalila]

That's also decent. That's human.

[Jenna]

I was raging out at. What the Is his name? The guy from Hustle and Flow.

[Kalila]

Okay, never mind. That's not decent.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Terrence Howard basically being like, I turned down the Marvin Gaye role because I found out that Marvin Gaye was gay. And Quincy Jones said that I would have to be in a scene where I have to kiss a man and I would, you know, cut my lips off if I had to do that. And.

[Kalila]

Okay, so you're feeling rage because you're a decent human.

[Jenna]

And I'm trying to tell Aloha, like, look at this fucking dickhead saying he'd cut off his lips. And like, you. He's very neutral. He likes to see where everyone's coming from.

[Kalila]

I'm not neutral.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

I'm not neutral with anything with, like, the queer community at all.

[Jenna]

He should be allowed to make that choice as a man. And I'm like, yes. But he did not need to say that he would cut his lips off if he kissed the man. Like, that part is so unnecessary. But that's a kind of, like, neutrality that I'm just, like. Enrages me a little bit.

[Esther]

That is very gentle.

[Kalila]

Oh, man. Yeah, because when he. When you said what he said, I was like, damn, I do see what he's talking about.

[Jenna]

He was like, the homophobia is wrong. He didn't have to say that. But he's like, that's still his choice to turn down a role.

[Kalila]

Yeah, but why the fuck did he need to come. Keep that shit to yourself.

[Jenna]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Esther]

Aloha is correct. You can absolutely turn that role down. And you can actually absolutely be uncomfortable with kissing a man. Like, for sure. But, yeah. Why are you, like, running your mouth about it? Why do you have to show it off? Or. To me, it's like, what's really going on there?

[Kalila]

Yeah. Why do you have to make it so. So mean and Intense and nasty.

[Esther]

Cuz haven't we talked about this before? Where it's like, if you ask a guy if they're gay, you can kind of almost tell if they're like, no.

[Kalila]

Yes.

[Esther]

Or if they're just like, no.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

They're like, no.

[Jenna]

It may become, like, outwardly biblical.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

And like. Yeah, exactly. Where you're like, I would rather cut my lips off.

[Kalila]

It's like all you watch is gay porn.

[Jenna]

Yeah. It's like you just go home and you jerk off to gay porn and it's okay.

[Kalila]

Yeah, it's okay either way.

[Esther]

And you know what else also goes so far as to say it's okay to do that secretly. But it's like, it just sucks when it's. You have to, like, use it and then hurt others about it.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Next on here, engineering. Oh, I would say this is a ick.

[Esther]

What? Why?

[Jenna]

Just all of college is ick. How about that? If you have a college degree, it's an ick.

[Kalila]

It's Renato. Hey, Chantito, I have a question. You're on the podcast. What annoys you about when you ask me, like, would you rather questions about, like, this or that? What do I normally say?

[Jenna]

I usually give you a couple of.

[Kalila]

Options, but you never choose either of the options. Yeah, they were saying that I'm like, always neutral and that it's the most fucking annoying thing ever.

[Jenna]

Extremely annoying. They are 100%. It's a multiple choice exam and you.

[Esther]

Want to fill in the blank.

[Jenna]

Yes, exactly. That's exactly.

[Esther]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Kalila]

Okay, I love you. Have a good day. Love you.

[Esther]

I think engineer is an ick. Because to me, it's just like, I don't. I can't. You're right. I hate all majors. It's gross. They're all gross to me. Except the one that Dave has.

[Kalila]

Biology is a yes. If we're not going to do all of them, biology is a yes.

[Jenna]

Right, Jules, we're not an ick.

[Jules]

I went to.

[Kalila]

Is yours biology?

[Jules]

Yeah. I went to this field trip last night, and the speaker was this old white guy and, like a professor, and he was so hot.

[Esther]

Really?

[Kalila]

Wow.

[Jenna]

So you're not into young white guys, you're into old white guys?

[Jules]

Yeah, and he was so smart. He was just talking about fishes and.

[Jenna]

I was like, wait, were you in Long Beach Aquarium?

[Jules]

No, it's the Cabrillo.

[Jenna]

The Cabrillo one? Yeah.

[Kalila]

He's talking about fishes. How?

[Jenna]

I wasn't at 9. 00pm yeah, that's weird.

[Jules]

Grunion run and they Only spawn at that time.

[Jenna]

But you got to see the grunion.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

What's. Oh, my God.

[Jules]

Those are like fishes and they come out after like high tide and they just like put their like eggs in.

[Jenna]

The spawn in the sand.

[Esther]

Where was this?

[Jenna]

San Pedro.

[Jules]

San Pedro. Yeah, it was really like. It was a lot of fishes.

[Esther]

How old was the guy that you called?

[Jules]

Maybe like 60.

[Kalila]

Okay. I was afraid she was going to say 40 something.

[Esther]

Well, I actually was hoping for that. You attracted to a 60 year old.

[Jules]

Because he was just so smart and just like, he was funny.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I'm into that.

[Jenna]

And he's into like, he knows about the ocean, which is like a big thing for you.

[Jules]

He was so hot. And I told my friends that and they were like, huh. I don't see it.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I see it. I'm picturing him right now.

[Jenna]

Jules is. Her only type is smart. Like, that's what she looks for. I agree.

[Esther]

I think smart is such a turn on. What? The second you feel like a guy is like, like a little bit dumber than you.

[Kalila]

So I'm not your type?

[Esther]

What is the point of you? Yeah, a man needs to have like, he needs to be bringing so much to the table and it needs to be brain.

[Kalila]

Because sometimes it bothers me that like, r knows so much more than me. Not in a way that, like, I dislike it, but that it makes me realize how little I know. But you're right.

[Jenna]

Feeling to be to know less than the person you love.

[Kalila]

You're right.

[Jenna]

I want. I feel safer when someone knows more than me.

[Kalila]

You're right.

[Jenna]

In an apocalypse. Oh my God. That's your A team.

[Esther]

Except that Dave says that when there's an apocalypse, the first thing he's doing is killing himself.

[Kalila]

Also, Dave is not helping. In an apocalypse. He's gonna call me.

[Esther]

He said that me and Donut and Ace are on our own.

[Jenna]

I'll take you in. We'll take you in. You're very like, thank you. Aloha. Will piggyback you.

[Kalila]

Yes.

[Esther]

Finally.

[Jenna]

When is college gonna become obsolete? Like, are you gonna want Ace to go to college?

[Esther]

I think that college is unfortunately never going to become obsolete. Like, I think that to me, any sort of like, planning ahead of like, oh, this is going to be pointless. Like, we don't even know, like, the next few years that like thinking that far ahead. I get too stressed. I'm like, just forget it. Just delete it. But I think to me, college is not hot because of the age bracket. Not that it's actually college. I just think of a man being 20.

[Kalila]

Disgusting. Like, disgusting.

[Esther]

It's, like, so nasty. Better be 35 if you're gonna be a man.

[Kalila]

It makes. Yeah.

[Esther]

Like, don't come near me. Under 35 as a man. That's just like.

[Kalila]

Oh, and the way that they be acting when they're that age.

[Esther]

They're just babies. They're stupid. I don't know. Guys.

[Jenna]

Are there hot guys in your school?

[Jules]

Oh, my. In my department, biology, there's no hot guys. It's so annoying. Like, I. You just. I walk around, I try to, like, look for them, and then there's nothing. They're always at the theater comms. It's always that department, and it's.

[Kalila]

They're, like, outgoing. They've at least got that. The theater kids, they're at least, like, outgoing and they're welcoming.

[Esther]

Do you have a type?

[Jules]

Not really. It's like, you have to be smart.

[Jenna]

Are you still anti white dick?

[Jules]

Yeah. Like, I like white old dudes, but we could never. But I could never suck their dick.

[Jenna]

Tell us what happened when you saw white dick for the first time.

[Jules]

It was when I saw it, I was just like. Oh, it was just so. It was just so pale and translucent, but it was, like, big. So I was like, oh, nice. But then it was just too pale for me. I couldn't.

[Kalila]

Was it see through almost.

[Jenna]

You could see the veins.

[Jules]

Yeah, it was just.

[Esther]

What about it being pale bothers you?

[Jules]

I don't. I prefer brown, you know, or purple or, like, black or whatever.

[Jenna]

Wait, what is your thing with BBC? Give me high five.

[Kalila]

Yes.

[Jules]

I've never had a BBC, but I want to.

[Kalila]

What's the BBC?

[Jenna]

Big black Jenna.

[Jules]

Oh, I've not. I've had Mexicans, Filipinos.

[Esther]

British.

[Kalila]

Yes.

[Esther]

But did you think BBC meant British Bake Off?

[Kalila]

British Butler?

[Esther]

It's the British network BBC.

[Jenna]

BBC is. Yeah, yeah. That's where I watch all my favorite shows. But back to your bb. Jules's BBC. It's just a curiosity. You want to be split in half?

[Jules]

I also just want to. Yeah.

[Jenna]

Oh, my God.

[Jules]

But you've tried BBC at the.

[Jenna]

I did black guys. Like, she don't try everything.

[Kalila]

See? Yeah, Tried abc.

[Jules]

But not whites.

[Jenna]

But I think you'll be.

[Kalila]

Jules, just randomly saying but not whites is the best thing ever.

[Esther]

Do you think you could change your mind? For the right white penis?

[Jules]

Maybe, but because, I don't know. He wasn't too white, but then his dick was really white.

[Esther]

Wait, really? What was his ethnicity?

[Jules]

I don't know. I just met I think she means.

[Kalila]

Like, his skin color wasn't, like, translucent white, but then his dick happened to be whiter than that, which is interesting.

[Jenna]

Because typically that area for me is darker than my same. Yeah, so that was an interesting combo. You were probably expecting it to be just a touch. A shade darker, but what if you.

[Esther]

Turn the lights off?

[Jules]

It was in the car.

[Kalila]

Oh, God. You only have sex with the lights off, I bet.

[Esther]

No, I was exclusively lights on forever.

[Kalila]

What?

[Esther]

I know.

[Kalila]

I love that.

[Esther]

I, like, refuse lights off. But then lately, I'm like, oh, this could be, like, a different vibe.

[Kalila]

I like that.

[Esther]

Like, a little nightlight, you know? I'm just getting more mature as I get more mature.

[Kalila]

That's cool.

[Jenna]

Your little hatch. Oh, Jules, your well wishes. I wish you a BBC.

[Kalila]

Wait, what about white vagina?

[Jules]

I've never tried a vagina. Okay, I'm down, but I've never tried.

[Kalila]

I feel like you'd be less grossed out by, like, a white vagina than a white dick. Have you tried a white.

[Esther]

I know this answer.

[Kalila]

I know this answer. Okay, we're not discussing.

[Esther]

Why do I not know?

[Jenna]

Wait, because you think you could have a sexual story?

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

It's like, I can't tell you anything.

[Esther]

That's true.

[Kalila]

And the thing is. The thing is, like, when I tell these stories, it's not. It's not like, Kalila was like, ooh, yeah. When we tell each other, like, the most raunchiest of stories, the response from both of us is like, oh, yeah, that's cute. That's great.

[Jenna]

It's a matter of fact, like, she'll.

[Kalila]

Tell me stuff that is, like, so graphic, and I've seen it.

[Esther]

No, we've gone through this. Kalila, as matter of fact, you're something different.

[Kalila]

But the response is like, a gentle, like, comforting, like, I love that for you. As if she was just to tell me, like, I just got into the ocean, and, like, I had a nice swim. I'm like, I love that for you.

[Esther]

I just got into the ocean.

[Kalila]

I want to punch you in the face. That's how I feel when I look at your. When your BBC.

[Esther]

Wait, Jules, I have a question. Do you. Do you want to be with a girl?

[Jules]

I'm dumb.

[Jenna]

Careful how you answer that.

[Kalila]

She said she's just down, so it means, like, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. She's just open.

[Jules]

Yeah, but you say, why.

[Kalila]

Why are you, like, smiling a little bit?

[Esther]

This is fun. So your main.

[Kalila]

I think this is fun. That's why we can't tell you anything sexual. You're the one who gets excited, not us.

[Esther]

Your number one pursuit right now is a BBC.

[Jules]

Yeah, abc.

[Esther]

For the size or the color?

[Jules]

Both, but maybe more color.

[Kalila]

I like that. It's, like, specifically about the color. Hell, yeah.

[Esther]

Do you like a white penis?

[Kalila]

I don't dislike a white penis.

[Jenna]

See that answer? See that answer? Oh.

[Esther]

Fake answer.

[Kalila]

Well, it's not, because I don't. I'm not like, yes, I really want a white penis, and I don't hate it. Penises, to me are, like, honestly, like, however they come, they come and they come. I don't have, like, a penile preference.

[Jenna]

Huh. Interesting.

[Kalila]

Like, I've had a bunch of different colors.

[Jenna]

Interesting.

[Kalila]

My first boyfriend was black and white.

[Jenna]

Okay.

[Esther]

What do you mean?

[Kalila]

That would be cute as it would be. I would love that.

[Jenna]

I can't demonetize like a.

[Esther]

Okay, we have a game, and it's roommate deal breakers.

[Jenna]

Okay, let us know if the following behaviors would be roommate deal breakers for you in College. Jules. Number one watches TikToks without headphones.

[Kalila]

Ones.

[Jules]

I'm okay with that. I don't mind that.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I think I'm okay with that too.

[Jules]

The second one. No.

[Kalila]

Second one. I don't care.

[Esther]

Has loud sex two times a week.

[Jenna]

Because that's a little too, like, performative.

[Kalila]

Yeah, who cares? As long as it doesn't wake me.

[Jules]

Up and, like, they should follow to call. Atikolai just puts on music, and I know that she's having sex, and I'm fine with that.

[Esther]

Really. What kind of music is it?

[Jenna]

I just put the TV sometimes I put BBC on very loud, and they're.

[Kalila]

Like, here, we've got this nice truffle.

[Jenna]

And she's like, it's cake weak.

[Kalila]

And so you don't know if they're going or if it's Kalila.

[Esther]

Like, do you make noise?

[Jenna]

You know, I don't make noise, but my partner is louder than me.

[Esther]

Really?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

So that makes sense. He's like.

[Jenna]

He's a big.

[Kalila]

You know, the way that I feel about hearing sex is like, our culture is so where we are more comfortable hearing arguments and domestic violence than people.

[Esther]

Oh, God.

[Kalila]

That's how I feel. If you hear someone arguing.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Look at them agreeing with me. If you hear someone arguing, you're not like, oh. If you hear someone having sex, you're like, oh, my God, get a room. That's why get a room exists.

[Esther]

You can argue public without getting arrested. Imagine you're in line at Subway and Someone just starts.

[Kalila]

But that's literally my pro. That's literally what I'm saying. Is that culturally. Sure. Is that culturally? We think there's such an issue with sex.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I don't like. I don't like arguing, but, like, R.

[Kalila]

And I got in trouble before. Like, seven years ago when we were fucking in the car. Security came. It was nighttime. We're in the parking lot of a hotel, parked way off. There's no one there. And security comes and knocks and shines a light. And I'm just like, now, if we were arguing, I bet you they wouldn't have done shit.

[Jenna]

I see what you're saying. I get your point. That was a great, great way to break it down.

[Esther]

No, but still, sex in public is illegal. Arguing is not.

[Kalila]

I was never saying sex in public. I'm talking about in a room. If they're your roommate, you dumb bitch. What are you not understanding about this, roomy? Deal breakers. Not in public, at Starbucks. Deal breakers.

[Esther]

But you were saying. You went on a tangent. That was like, oh, in our society.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

You stepped out of the room.

[Kalila]

No, in our society, if you. In our society, if you live in an apartment, which is also of society, and you hear people arguing.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Which we hear all the time.

[Jenna]

Leave them alone.

[Kalila]

If you hear people having sex, you're like, get a room. Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

I see what you're saying. I do get this in that when I hear people having sex, I basically am like, they're allowed to do that. I'm going to move on with my life. I try not to have a get a room attitude about it.

[Kalila]

Yeah, because you're not, like, if it.

[Jenna]

Becomes, like, performative, where it's like, they're clearly trying to. Ah. Like, then it's like, no, thank you.

[Kalila]

You see what happens when I have an opinion?

[Jenna]

Oh.

[Kalila]

See what happens when I take a side?

[Esther]

Say that Whether I hear in my building someone having sex or arguing, either way I'm getting closer to the wall and listening.

[Jenna]

I am kind of a voyeur. Yeah. Especially I think, more so with people are arguing. I need to know what they're fighting about. And I need to take a side. I need to be like, she's right. I need to know.

[Kalila]

I'm always like, are you making her come or not?

[Jenna]

Because he's like, give them their privacy. Don't listen in. She needs backup. All right, here we go. Getting high in shared spaces.

[Kalila]

It depends on what they're getting high with. Like, getting high or are they smoking in the area?

[Jenna]

I think if it's crack, if you know what I mean. Like, would that bother you?

[Kalila]

Like, what if you're smoking weed out your window and it doesn't smell in the house?

[Jenna]

This.

[Kalila]

But you're high.

[Esther]

Can play this game anymore.

[Kalila]

You're high in it, but you didn't. You didn't smoke in it.

[Jenna]

My answer is deal breaker. Like, what if you do a vape?

[Kalila]

What if you do a vape and it doesn't smell but you're still high?

[Esther]

Jules, what do you think?

[Jenna]

Edible's fine.

[Kalila]

See, that's why I matter, okay?

[Jules]

Unless they go crazy and they act like stupid. Yeah, but if they're like, chill high, then I'm fine.

[Esther]

What about brings out a gun for guitar?

[Kalila]

The camera was working.

[Esther]

I was like, where is this going? Brings out a gun for a sing along when guests come over.

[Jenna]

That's what I would do is if there was a sing along.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I'm totally okay with this.

[Jules]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Bringing out a guitar.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

No, you can sosi brings out a.

[Kalila]

Guitar every time I go over for a sing along.

[Esther]

And you think it's socially accepted, acceptable to have sex in public? No, you cannot. It's very socially unacceptable to bring out a guitar.

[Jenna]

Wait, hang on. So hang on one second.

[Kalila]

It depends if I'm the guest.

[Jenna]

Okay. Okay, let's suppose you and I are roommates. You bring your little clan of friends. I don't like to use the word clan. Let's find a new word.

[Kalila]

Okay. My crew.

[Jenna]

Your crew. You. You bring your little gaggle of friends. Okay. And you guys are chowing down on your gluten free stuff.

[Esther]

Ooh, she did. Missed you. Just there.

[Jenna]

Out. I come with a guitar, and I'm like, guys, I got a song for you. And I'm just trying to jam out.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[Esther]

Although it being you, I'm like, let's see where this is going.

[Kalila]

Yeah, if it's you, I'm like, this don't know how to play. This is gonna be funny as hell.

[Jenna]

Wait, I do know how to play one song by you two. All I want is you. Let me, let me, let me YouTube.

[Kalila]

Nope, I don't like it.

[Jenna]

No Bono here. No Bono.

[Kalila]

You know how you too somehow won't get deleted from Apple Music? And if it starts with a. Yeah, you know when you just start playing. Oh, my God.

[Esther]

What about someone. If your roommate jerks off in the shower and it's, like, obvious.

[Kalila]

No, no. If it's a male and they're jerking off. No.

[Esther]

Why, though? That's the place that they should do it.

[Kalila]

Yeah, but making it obvious like, there's come. No.

[Esther]

Where are they Splooshing in the EBB bottle.

[Kalila]

It's biodegradable.

[Jenna]

All of it. Wait a second. I'm okay with him doing whatever he needs to do. You know, keep it down a little bit.

[Kalila]

How do they do it and clean up?

[Jenna]

I'll show you. I've seen it so many times. I walked in and I'm like, damn.

[Kalila]

The holding up against the wall.

[Esther]

Really?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Like, they're so weak.

[Jenna]

They need to static.

[Kalila]

He's laughing because he's like, damn, I do that.

[Esther]

You guys have seen it. I've never seen that.

[Jenna]

You've never seen. You never walked in on anyone jerking off?

[Esther]

No.

[Kalila]

Dude, that's so funny. I love to try and catch r anytime he's in the shower. Why?

[Esther]

That's horrible. No one wants to be walked in on while they're jaying.

[Jenna]

Oh, they're jaying.

[Esther]

That's what we call it.

[Kalila]

I think it's so hot. I like that you say jang because I don't like jerking off or masturbating. We say jaying. I love that.

[Esther]

Wait, do you. Have you ever walked in on someone, Jay?

[Jules]

No. Never.

[Kalila]

I used to wake up to one of my boyfriends jaying next to me.

[Esther]

That's so gross.

[Kalila]

I loved it.

[Esther]

Ew.

[Kalila]

Because he would be, like, also kind of touching me.

[Jenna]

I do not touch me when I'm still sleepy. I will claw your eyes out.

[Kalila]

I was 20 years old.

[Jenna]

I hate that. Leave me the alone. When I'm sleeping, you start to.

[Kalila]

I loved it. I thought it was so cute and sweet.

[Esther]

Have you guys ever been walked in on while you're Jane?

[Jenna]

That's so easy to cover up.

[Kalila]

Yeah, no, maybe. I feel like as a kid when I was, like, humping everything, but I didn't know it was Jane.

[Jenna]

You would hump inanimate objects.

[Kalila]

I was humping everything, and I didn't realize that it was, like, what I was doing. Like, I'd be on the school bus and, you know, it's like bouncy, bouncy, bouncy. And I would just, like, lay down on the seat and fucking, like, talk to people or whatever and think it was like, no big deal.

[Esther]

That's sexual assault.

[Kalila]

Maybe that's why I feel that way about society.

[Esther]

Wait, I never had.

[Kalila]

I was like, 8 years old. It wasn't sexual. It was like, at a certain age, you realize that, like, specifically females realize that, like, when they move up against something or hump Something that it feels. Everyone's shaking their heads.

[Jenna]

In second year high school at sdc, we had a girl get kicked out because she would scoot back and forth at the edge of her wooden chair and under her skirt. And then instead of, like. Honestly, I thought it was, like, really cruel that they. She got suspended for this.

[Kalila]

This.

[Jenna]

Because I'm like, she was trying to be discreet. She would just do one of these. She would just go to the edge of the wooden chair and she'd be.

[Esther]

Like, why do you do it so good?

[Jenna]

And she was just like, a thousand, you know, thousand yards there.

[Esther]

Was it you?

[Jenna]

It was me.

[Kalila]

So much better than this.

[Jenna]

Yeah. She got this offended. And I was like, that's because I.

[Kalila]

Didn'T know what I was doing. Exactly.

[Jenna]

You were just the public humper. Please forgive her, guys.

[Esther]

Did you guys have that, though, though? Did you guys hump when you were little?

[Jules]

Yeah, I think when I was 10, I had this big teddy bear and I would.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jules]

Role play and like. Like, hump, like, he was my boyfriend.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jules]

I think that's cute.

[Esther]

That's so cute. Wait, did you do that?

[Jenna]

I made my bears and I made my Barbie scissors.

[Esther]

If you.

[Jenna]

I don't know. I'm sorry. That's worse. Me a bear versus making my bears.

[Kalila]

Yeah, you. A bear is, like, normal. You're trying to feel pleasure.

[Esther]

You just.

[Kalila]

That's just like, loser.

[Esther]

No.

[Kalila]

Oh, I did that, though, with my. With my friends and Barbies who were.

[Esther]

Playing with your dolls. And then you'd be like, oh, my doll needs to fart. What?

[Kalila]

But then it was just.

[Esther]

You farting dog.

[Jenna]

Wait, Esther, that's not the game I played.

[Kalila]

That's not what we're talking about. Something different, guys. Yeah. Yeah.

[Esther]

You remember when my best friend Christina still brings it up that I did that?

[Kalila]

That is so funny.

[Esther]

She's still my friend.

[Jenna]

So you were expressing your needs through a doll?

[Esther]

Let's just move on.

[Kalila]

I was breaking off the legs of my Barbies.

[Jenna]

That too. I gave Lisa her first period. Don't worry. And instead of changing their clothes, I would just pop their heads on different bodies.

[Kalila]

Oh, that's smart.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Yeah, that's smart. That's efficient.

[Esther]

Do you still have the bear that was your first boyfriend?

[Jules]

No.

[Jenna]

Did he have a name?

[Jules]

I don't remember. I just know that I was humping him.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Kids do that. It's fine.

[Kalila]

I've seen most kids hump things, and then I always have to be like, hey, so this is. This is. I know that feels Totally. Good. Because you don't want to shame.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

I've nannied like a million kids and you just say like, hey, totally. This is like your own special time. So you do it just on your own.

[Jenna]

Yeah, okay.

[Kalila]

Because that's like. Yeah. I feel like you're going to shame Ace. You're going to be like, what are you doing?

[Esther]

Oh, Donut. If she has any, any inkling of sexuality, I'm like, no, we're putting. Put that outside. Dave's always like, I think Donut's a lesbian. I'm like, do not sexualize her. It's so. I hate it.

[Kalila]

You're weird, man.

[Esther]

You're going to have to teach Ace the birds and the bees.

[Kalila]

I wouldn't even call it the birds and the bees. Like, what are birds fucking bees? Like, why do they even call it that?

[Jenna]

I will say though, this is so strange.

[Kalila]

I'm gonna call fucking for her.

[Jenna]

That's what I'm gonna do.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

You don't fuck one day.

[Kalila]

Yeah. And I'm not gonna make it weird because making it weird. Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

Jenna, can you do this? Can you take a picture of Esther and Dave? Enzy, see what your mom. They fucked to make you. Yeah, they fucked.

[Kalila]

See this? They went to make you and now you're here and it's wonderful.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Esther]

You guys are so nasty.

[Kalila]

No, cuz you're the horniest one here.

[Jenna]

Yeah, we gotta end the show. She's. She's giving horny looks.

[Kalila]

We gotta go for our own safety.

[Esther]

You're suit, you're just. Something wrong with you, Esther. All right. I don't know what this was today.

[Jenna]

Well, congratulations, Jules. Congratulations, Ellie.

[Jules]

Thank you.

[Jenna]

On your graduation. Congratulations to our only dropout.

[Esther]

Sound off in the comments. If you're a graduate or a dropout or. It never went.

[Jenna]

Both. Both are great. All are great. Go beach.

[Kalila]

Also, I'm the one you asked if you should drop out and I said, yeah.

[Esther]

No, I think I told you. I think I said. I said, I think I'm gonna drop out. What do you think of that?

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I had already decided.

[Kalila]

You're like, we need to go on a walk. I have something to ask. Ask you. And then I said, like, yeah, you're gonna be fine.

[Esther]

Totally. I just want your opinion, actually, now that you. Yeah.

[Kalila]

And you were like, okay. And you left the next day.

[Esther]

I remember that walk.

[Kalila]

Me too.

[Esther]

That's so crazy. Well, this has been our show.

[Jenna]

I have a hair care line called EB Ocean Club and I used it this morning. Thank you, Jenna. We all use it. It's great stuff. Eboceanclub.com on Instagram @ebOcean Club. Jules, where can we find you?

[Jules]

Rudy Jules on Instagram. That's it.

[Jenna]

Wow, a college graduate, a BBC.

[Esther]

I do stand up. I don't know what my shows are. You can get tickets somewhere. Follow me on Instagram. And Jenna has a deodorant line.

[Kalila]

Natural Deodorant. It works by Tia Jenna at bytia jenna bitagena.com we have a Patreon.

[Jenna]

Oh, we do.

[Esther]

So there's stuff out of every episode that gets cut out because it's like a two private personal thing and it will be on the Patreon. So if you want to catch everything that we're saying and doing, it's all on the Patreon. And we have other stuff on there, but we have a vlog from today's episode. We have bonus content of topical stuff. So patreon.com Trash Tuesday podcast. We'd love for you to check it out. I think that you like it. All right, we'll see you next week. Sam.