Yung Gravy and Ari Kytsya are in Perfect Sync

Summary

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Trash Tuesday: "Yung Gravy and Ari Kytsya are in Perfect Sync"

Podcast Hosts: Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Guests: Yung Gravy (Matt) & Ari Kitzia
Release Date: March 31, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively and candid episode welcomes fan favorite Yung Gravy and his girlfriend, content creator and OnlyFans star Ari Kitzia. Esther and Khalyla dive into the couple's relationship origins, the dynamics of public relationships, families, social media, adult content creation, and hilarious "newlywed game" moments. The hosts and guests navigate everything from awkward Uber driver conversations, the stigma and business of OF, crazy camp counselor stories, to honest talk about love, boundaries, and growing up.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. How Yung Gravy & Ari Kitzia Met

[01:35 - 05:03]

• Ari DM’d Matt five years ago with “add my Snapchat.”
• Their early relationship: “We just were like buddies, but also kind of homies.” (Matt, 01:46)
• A heatwave in Seattle led to Matt and friends staying at Ari’s parents’ house for four days, sparking "pretend boyfriend" scenarios, which Ari was unaware of at the time.
• Ari's family of five girls welcomed Matt warmly—impressing her sisters with his kindness.
• Both talk about the slow progression from friends to more: “I didn't realize she had a crush on me.” (Matt, 04:07)
• Each got into serious relationships, lost touch (Ari blocked Matt), reconnected after both breakups, and realized Ari’s internet fame only after the fact.

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2. Family Dynamics: Only Children vs. Sibling Clans

[06:03 - 09:01]

• Ari is one of five sisters, all a year apart—describes it as “built-in friends… My mom said, you don’t need play dates.” (Ari, 06:29)
• Matt grew up essentially an only child, with much older half-siblings and an emotionally close relationship with his mom.
• Growing up, Matt’s friends felt “like family,” and joining Ari’s big family now feels “like a dream.” (Matt, 08:53)
• The group discusses how having or lacking siblings shapes social skills, friendship patterns, and family traditions.

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3. OF, Social Media Success, and the Business of Online Content

[09:54 - 17:49]

• Ari explains her content creation journey: “I feel like I only really do solo content... It's like diet porn.” (Ari, 10:06)
• “I made 60 grand off of one video, couple foot pics, and just being nice on there.” (Matt on his OnlyFans experiment, 11:47)
• Social media and OF are kept separate due to content restrictions; creators use coded language and learn to cross-promote.
• Ari discusses getting banned from TikTok (13:16) and explains competitive tactics in the industry, including account bans initiated by rival managers or creators.
• Industry scams and honesty: Ari warns, “A lot of girls…work super honestly, and it just makes everybody else look like scammers.” (15:13)
• Ari’s OF origin was not lucrative at first—she fell victim to scam management contracts: “It was definitely a struggle at the beginning and getting scammed a lot.” (Ari, 16:26)

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4. Confidence, Identity, and Social Media Personas

[17:12 - 18:41]

• Ari never had hang-ups about sharing personal content online, bolstered by her sisters’ support.
• Both Ari and Matt discuss the self-consciousness of launching creative careers—Matt kept his music secret until it gained traction: “I waited until I was really successful to even tell my mom or my best friends.” (Matt, 18:13)
• The group commiserates about the awkwardness of telling strangers their real jobs (“I say finance, it stops the conversation.” – Matt, 20:30)

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5. Public Identity: Explaining Your Job in Awkward Situations

[18:56 - 24:17]

• The hosts debate what to claim as an occupation to avoid follow-up questions, with Ari noting, “If I want to make someone uncomfortable, I say porn.” (Ari, 20:48)
• The group shares stories about being misjudged in public due to their appearance or profession.

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6. On Companionship, Gender, and Relationship Dynamics

[25:44 - 27:38]

• The group muses on why men and women view companionship differently.
• “For men, they’re almost always looking for love…all my homies that are older and single are searching for a girlfriend.” (Matt, 26:58)
• Ari points out how women can nurture each other emotionally in ways men rarely do, e.g., “girls can cuddle, brush each other’s hair, give massages…guys, not so much.” (Ari, 27:15)

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7. Internet & Fame: Navigating Public and Private Life

[42:34 - 45:46]

• Esther asks about pros and cons of being a public couple.
  • “Anything that gets captured of us is just normal, wholesome, cute things.” (Matt, 43:04)
• Ari doesn’t feel “extra” about being in the public eye—“I feel like we get to do more fun things because of it.” (Ari, 43:25)
• Matt never intended to go public with relationships—made an exception for Ari because “she’s so cool.”

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8. Family Roles, Parenting Philosophies, and Emotional Expression

[46:38 - 53:14]

• Esther and Khalyla discuss their pregnancies, wanting to avoid “toxic boy mom” stereotypes.
• Matt shares his mom’s emotional, nurturing, and inclusive attitude, advocating, “It’s always cool to have stricter rules and then bend them sometimes.” (Matt, 34:19)
• The mother-son bond: “My mom and I are so tight...She’s like one of my best friends.” (Matt, 51:04)
• The group agrees: good parenting, not just gender, determines strong family bonds.

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9. Friendship, Sibling Support, and Healthy Relationships

[53:09 - 54:35]

• Ari’s built-in sister support means her partner isn’t expected to be “her everything.”
• The hosts and guests discuss the value of not seeing a partner as a one-stop shop for all emotional needs.
• Integration of extended friend groups and “the Round Valley Queen” chats bring their communities together.

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10. Games: Newlywed/Partner Quiz

[55:19 - 63:10]

• Hilarious and revealing “newlywed game” segment:
  • Who’s the better driver? (Consensus: Ari/Esther, with admissions of minor accidents.)
  • Who apologizes first? (Ari & Matt: both; Esther: herself.)
  • Who’s more “chronically online”? (Esther and Ari, but with varying degrees of stealth.)
  • What’s their biggest “ick”? (Ari: “men with big egos/hitting on me”; Kalila: not many, “maybe people posting TBTs.”)
  • If partner was an animal? Answers ranged from maned wolves, snow leopards, dolphins, to golden retrievers—displaying a sweet mix of inside jokes and genuine thought.

Notable Moment:

“Otters are rapists.” – (Esther, 63:17)
A running joke, referencing animal facts and smut literature.

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11. Reading Smut & Audiobooks

[39:04 - 41:49]

• The group asks Yung Gravy to read “sensual passages” aloud. Matt details his enjoyment of narrating, Audible collabs, and his favorite (Akatar) book series.
• Matt also discusses coming off Adderall after 10 years, reading as a “dopamine reset,” and his surprising resilience.

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12. Final Takeaways and Promotions

[63:57 - 64:31]

• Yung Gravy mentions he's off tour, working on new music, and a new single “HBO” (not related to the network).
• Ari shares her main social is Instagram: @themaingravy and @arikits.
• Warm sign-off celebrating the fun and sincerity of the conversation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We just were like buddies, but also kind of homies.” — Yung Gravy (01:46)
• “It's so fun. It's like built-in friends. That’s why I feel I’m awkward at making friends.” — Ari (06:29)
• “I made like 60 grand off of one video, couple foot pics, and just being nice to people on there.” — Yung Gravy (11:47)
• “If I want to make someone uncomfortable, I say porn.” — Ari (20:48)
• “Any guy hitting on you, it’s like, cringe.” — Ari (60:28)
• “If my partner would…prefer the companionship of men, I don’t think I’d date him because I want him to be my friend.” — Esther (29:22)
• “My mom and I are so tight...She’s like one of my best friends.” — Yung Gravy (51:04)
• “You don’t assemble?...I could...but then I get pissed and this is a waste of my time.” — Matt (54:38)
• “Otters...they're rapists.” — Esther (63:17), launching a hilarious, slightly dark animal fact tangent.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Meeting/Relationship Origin: 01:35 – 05:03
• Family/Sibling Dynamics: 06:03 – 09:01
• OF & Social Media Careers: 09:54 – 17:49
• Identity & Self-Confidence: 17:12 – 18:41
• Awkward Job Explanations/Identity: 18:56 – 24:17
• Companionship & Gender Differences: 25:44 – 27:38
• Public Relationship Pros/Cons: 42:34 – 45:46
• Parenting & Family Bonds: 46:38 – 53:14
• Partner Games/Quiz: 55:19 – 63:10
• Reading Smut & Book Talk: 39:04 – 41:49
• Outro/Plugs: 63:57 – 64:31

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Conclusion

The episode is a characteristic dose of Trash Tuesday: warm, crude, honest, and sharply funny. Matt and Ari’s chemistry is evident and endearing, while Esther and Khalyla press into both silly and substantial territory—whether it’s internet hustle, family drama, handling fame, or what to say at the bank. Peppered with sexual humor, candid admissions (“Anal on Ambien”), and wholesome sisterly (and mother-son) love, it’s a fun, fast-moving hour—both lighthearted and revealing.

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Transcript

[Host 1]

If they were an animal, what would they be?

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, my God.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Halila.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Esther]

If you say some big back rhinoceros.

[Host 1]

What is it?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Are you so tiger belly isn't.

[Esther]

I have. I have no relations to tigers. I said any water animal.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

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[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Welcome to the show. Let's introduce. We have. We're welcoming back, a fan favorite, someone we love to have in the studio who makes us feel so small in a good way. Welcome back, young gravy. And today we said you're not allowed to walk in here if you don't bring your super hot, super amazingly funny, beautiful girlfriend, Ari Kitzia.

[Ari Kitzia]

Thank you.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Welcome. We said, we don't want you. We don't want just you. We want the girl. I love it when people say that a lot.

[Esther]

How did you guys meet?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

She stood in my dms.

[Esther]

Oh, you did?

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, five years ago.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

What did you say?

[Ari Kitzia]

I said, add my Snapchat.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You said What?

[Ari Kitzia]

Add my Snapchat.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We scrolled all the way up recently and, like, looked back at our game that we were spitting to each other. It was. It was cute. I was like, perhaps just this once or something like that. Like, maybe just this once, like, trying to act cool. And then I added her because I thought she was hot. I don't know how long after that we first hung out, but we just were like buddies, but also kind of homies.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

What? Wait, this is five years ago?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Five years ago. Oh, well, we're like buddies and kind of homies. And like, we hung out a few times and then I randomly was in Seattle and there was a heat wave and all the hotels got filled up. I needed somewhere to stay. I hit her up and she let me. Baby, no money. And like five other people stay at her parents house.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

At your parents house?

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah. So we stayed at her parents house for like four days.

[Esther]

How did you introduce yourself?

[Guest/Partner]

Just as Matt. That and like, they. They knew our music and stuff. When I Say our. I just mean me and baby no money. Me and all my friends were under the impression that we for some reason had to pretend like I was dating her. Like.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Like, I don't know how I got that from our messages, but I was like, oh, like, she's saying that her boyfriend.

[Guest/Partner]

New boyfriend, is coming to stay or whatever. So then we were.

[Ari Kitzia]

I also never said that. Like, I didn't know about this until now.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

He was just pretend.

[Guest/Partner]

And. And I asked her parents about it, and they said that they didn't even remember that either. And. No, no one. All of us on my whole crew were like, all right, like, let's just be, like, very cute about it if they ask about it, like, you guys are planning big things for the future. And I was like. We were, like, talking as if she, like, you know, was a super serious

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

girlfriend at the time.

[Guest/Partner]

Those same parents, you know, now. Now I'm at tight with them. And I had a good.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It was an easy way to come

[Guest/Partner]

back in because they already liked me.

[Esther]

Yeah, Remember me that sweet, younger, skipped over a lot.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Sorry, Ari. How did you feel like a guy hitting you up? Like, I need a place to stay? Like, was that, like, were you into it? Or were you, like, what is this guy's deal?

[Ari Kitzia]

The first time we met, I think there was, like, three of my sisters with me as well. So, like, all of them liked him already. And, like, he was just so nice. Like, the nicest person I've ever met. And I have always told everyone that. And so I was like, oh, yeah, he's so nice. Like, why would I not let him stay?

[Esther]

And how does that conversation eventually turn into, hey, what are we doing here? Should we make it official? Like, how long into the buddy situation where you guys, like, okay, maybe we should figure something out here?

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I think he was just so, like, playing around back then at that time.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah. I mean, I wasn't really looking for a relationship as much, and. And I didn't realize that she had a crush on me. I don't know. I just. I thought. I thought she was on some. Like. Like, she was more quiet. I felt like maybe she didn't know each other or maybe you've become more talkative since. But I just thought she was, like,

[Guest/Partner]

about her business, like, oh, let's just, you know.

[Esther]

And were you, like, pushing those feelings down or were you, like, just trying to, like, play it cool?

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, yeah, because I remember one time I was staying at his house back then and he, like, missed his flight and I was like, thank God. And then he's like, okay, I just booked another one. I was like. And yeah, I was sad. But so definitely, I. Definitely back then I wouldn't have been like, oh, yeah, I like you. Like, this time I was like, yeah, I like you. Like, what are we doing?

[Esther]

They're a different breed than us, Esther. We would have two weeks in. We would have been like, where's my ring? We would have already like, I'm in love with you. Yeah, let's move in together.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So you were able to play it cool. And then eventually what happened?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We both got into other serious relationships.

[Esther]

Whoa.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And I noticed, like, she had blocked me on everything. So I knew that.

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Why?

[Ari Kitzia]

I think I, like, one of my friends actually asked, like, to go to one of your shows or something. And I might have like, texted you about that.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

And he always says baby to everybody in like, yeah. And like, my ex was just like, no, what he calling? I was like, I promise. He just talks like that. Like, he's not trying to.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah, I got you, baby orders from the end.

[Ari Kitzia]

And then he also wrote a lyric that talked about a lisp that wasn't about me, but my sister was texting me one day and was like, is this about you? And I was like, he definitely wrote that. Why is he writing songs? I was like, this is not about me, I promise.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Was it about her?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

No, no, no. I just. I just. I thought I was really clever.

[Esther]

If I were you, I wouldn't have even clarified. If it was about me, I would forever just think it was about me. I'm like. And even if he doesn't admit it, it's about me. Wouldn't you, Esther?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yes.

[Esther]

Cuz we're unhealthy. We're not. We're delusional. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Wait, Ari, how many sisters do you have?

[Esther]

4.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

The dream.

[Esther]

The dream.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So your parents had five girls in five years.

[Ari Kitzia]

So we're all a year apart.

[Esther]

Oh, my God.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And no boys?

[Ari Kitzia]

No.

[Esther]

And are you guys all very close?

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm so jealous.

[Esther]

I have one sister that I adore. Like, she. Her and I are so close. If I had, what, three more? We'd be unstoppable. You're so lucky.

[Ari Kitzia]

It's so fun.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

They're so lit.

[Ari Kitzia]

It's like built in friends. Like, that's why I feel like I'm awkward and bad at making friends because, like, growing up like our mom was just like, you don't need to have play dates. You already have four people here.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

True.

[Ari Kitzia]

You know.

[Esther]

You know that's so true. Because my mom doesn't have friends and she's never had to because she had seven sisters. So she was like, why do I need to meet new people? Like, my best friends are around me all day, every day. That's so cool. I'm so jealous.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm just over here sad now, thinking of what could have been.

[Esther]

You're just going to have to get pregnant again and again and again. What?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't have any siblings.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You don't? That's right.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I grew up without any. I had half siblings that were way older.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Right.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

They're kind of like uncles.

[Esther]

Wait, so you're an only child, right?

[Guest/Partner]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Esther]

I'm en route to never have. Never having another baby. I have one baby now.

[Guest/Partner]

You want baby?

[Esther]

I have one baby.

[Guest/Partner]

How old?

[Esther]

He's 15 months.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Okay.

[Esther]

So I think you met me. I was already maybe pregnant, brewing. Yeah, I was cooking. I'm afraid of only children, of having an only child, especially if they're boys. I feel like girls sort of like, settle a little bit better. Tell me everything I should know.

[Guest/Partner]

I thought it worked out pretty well.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Only child.

[Esther]

Did you feel like, well, socialized? All right, wait here. I have a couple questions. Do you know how to share food?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You should ask her that.

[Ari Kitzia]

We only share food if we go somewhere. Like, we. There's never. I think there's been one single time that we ordered separately.

[Guest/Partner]

We always order two things and to share them both.

[Esther]

And does he. Is he like, here, have half of this. Or now if you take your fork and you take something of his without permission, does he freak out? Or is he like, I don't care.

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I could take anything, like, ever from you.

[Esther]

This is such a relief.

[Guest/Partner]

That's great. I don't think that the only child, like, rumors are always true. I think maybe it's like, for like, rich kids or something.

[Esther]

But who was around you growing up? Did you have cousins or, like, brother? Sibling figures.

[Guest/Partner]

I barely had any family. I have. My dad had a bunch of family in Switzerland.

[Esther]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Guest/Partner]

But I had no contact with them because they didn't have, like, phones or.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I mean, I could call them or

[Guest/Partner]

like email them, but they barely spoke English.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And then in the US my mom

[Guest/Partner]

only had one brother, so I didn't really have much family. And then when my dad passed, like, it was literally just my mom. Like, my mom feels like my only family. Well, not feels like my only family because all my friends are my family now.

[Esther]

But it feel lonely.

[Guest/Partner]

Not really, because I, like, got really close with a lot of dudes when I was young and, like, stayed close to them for forever. And like, my friends were my family.

[Esther]

Does it feel like a dream to enter such a big family like hers?

[Guest/Partner]

It is, It's.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's fun.

[Guest/Partner]

It's.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's cool to like, come, come join a family gathering and like, see like, traditions and stuff.

[Guest/Partner]

Because I didn't like, you know, we would make up our own, my mom and I, like, how to just think of our own. I had a few friends that were in a similar situation without like, much like parents or their dad gone. So then we would always celebrate together.

[Esther]

Oh, that's sweet.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

So, I mean, me and my mom and then my boy Vaughn, who lives at my house right now and helps works for me.

[Esther]

That's such a green flag. When people have, like, childhood friends in their life. That's so sweet. When people don't. I'm like, what have you done? Like, what horrible shit.

[Guest/Partner]

I know when people, like, remember meeting girls that their friend turnover was so fast.

[Esther]

Yes.

[Guest/Partner]

Or do they have a new best

[Esther]

friend all the time and always talking about friend dumping where it's like, oh, her and I don't talk. Yeah. It's like, how many friend dumps are we gonna go through? How many people are we gonna go through in a year? It's scary.

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah. I was like, how do you do that? Like.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

I don't even know how you get mad at someone that. It's crazy.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Wait, I love your tick tock.

[Ari Kitzia]

Thank you.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And also, so you do of. I don't know much about that. What. What kind of stuff do you do?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Makes a lot of money.

[Ari Kitzia]

I do, I feel like I only really do, like, solo content. And then like, with girls, I basically show everything on there. I don't know how to describe it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's like diet porn kind of.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, okay.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Are you. And have you worked with Stella Berry?

[Ari Kitzia]

I actually am. Like, next, we actually, on Friday, we have something.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

We love her. We've had her on and she talked

[Esther]

about you last time.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Okay.

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

She's so smart. She's like one of the smartest people.

[Esther]

Smart. Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

I think it's kind of tight.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's just like, like, I made one for the purpose of. I voiced. I narrated a video of her and this girl Camilla, like, making out and doing like, you know, like a basic little girl girl video. But I narrated the whole thing, like seven minutes. And it's like, it's like smutty, like poetic, like beautiful. I. I was so Proud. I was so proud of, of that narration. So I dropped my own only fans also where you could buy it that. That video and they had it like the same video. So how they do they like distribute the videos on OnlyFans is like each person has their own account and they all just drop the same thing for the same price and then people could buy it. So it wasn't even like she made a lot off of it but like my account just from that and like what else did I put on there? I posted like a couple like BTS pictures of like her butt like from like my fancy camera and I sent like a. I sent some foot pics out because people it was honestly I had so much fun with the of because like the DMS like I just started actually responding to the DMs myself. There was just really funny requests in there or like super fans who didn't even want to like see anything sexual that just wanted to talk to me anyways. I made like it was like 60 grand off of oh my God like one video, couple foot pics and just being nice to people on there.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's crazy. Now you're like this specific type, this breed of like girl I see online that I'm obsessed with and I never get to like ask them any questions. But like your whole social media is not of at all. It's like just really funny videos. Like you're super cute, you're funny, you're just living your life. And then like how. How do people know that you're you? It's like I don't know, I'm just

[Ari Kitzia]

getting nervous with so with like my socials I have to be careful because they don't. They hate like people that work in the industry. They don't want us like promoting stuff on there. So that's why like my pages are a lot more clean and not related

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

to almost like two separate lives.

[Ari Kitzia]

But I do post people I think find it mostly from like my like get ready with me to like make videos for only fans.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Post stuff that is adjacent or like hinting at it a lot.

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah, I see people just like will use like words for certain like things that are like I guess like over time people start to learn like what they mean. Yeah. Like bopper like mattress actress or like movies is like stuff and like the more that you talk about it like oh, that's what that means because I.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

It's crazy like your tik tok in its own right seems like it's a huge success and like that's Its own career.

[Ari Kitzia]

I actually just got banned.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, my God.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Why we're trying to get a better

[Esther]

offense because I know that's how I found Stella Berry. I didn't even know she did of. I just thought she was such a pretty girl, telling fun stories and then talking about how she had a purple vagina, remember? And the genetics and the science behind it. And I was like, oh, like, this is this girl's fudgeing amazing. I had no idea for the longest time. And I think she's, like, equally as honored. She's. I'm like, this girl's great.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And why did you get banned? Do you know?

[Ari Kitzia]

I think somebody actually paid to get me banned a lot. That happens a lot in the industry, weirdly, is that, like, people either, like other management companies will do it because they want you to, like, sign with them and they'll like, message you right away, being like, oh, so you got banned. Like, our team has a great person that can recover your account.

[Esther]

Wait, that is so shady, though, that they would, you know, intentionally go after and be like, hey, if you need our help.

[Guest/Partner]

In this case, I think it was someone who's just like, mad because there's a lot of, like, little beef things going around on.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

On with. Of girls right now, and I think they're just like, see you as a potential threat.

[Guest/Partner]

So they just like, got her account banned.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

What are the beeps just like, between the girls or something else?

[Ari Kitzia]

I feel like right now, like, a lot of the stuff at least is a lot of people that work in the industry are kind of just calling out people that are like, scamming and using, like, social media to do that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And what is the scamming?

[Ari Kitzia]

They'll, like, post on social media. And it's like, crazy that it's like the people with the biggest platforms that are doing this, but they'll like, act like they make, like, certain types of videos and that they. And then like, when somebody goes on their account to buy something, it'll be like, them, like, fully clothed. They're just like in a bathing suit. Even though they said, like, oh, yeah, I'm fully getting and ballsy.

[Guest/Partner]

Like, like that didn't know I was

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

gonna get by a young girl or something like that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

They're bringing you into it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Well, just one time.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

But yeah, I guess a lot of. A lot of girls in the industry are just calling that out because there's like, a lot of us that work, like, super honestly, and it just makes everybody else look like scammers.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

All that so it's kind of like ruining the, the industry a little bit.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

One thing that I feel like I hear a lot about of is like, it was. It had its moment in Covid and like now it's kind of dying off, but it seems like you're absolutely killing

[Ari Kitzia]

it, which I recently just busted my titties outside.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

No reason to apologize. Was it hard to get started or like, were you ever like, oh my God, I'm doing this and it's like not making money. Did you ever have like a hard time with it or were you like killing it right away?

[Guest/Partner]

Super quick to clarify the timeline. Yeah, when we first hung out, she didn't have an of or a big social media following or anything. And then, and then I got blocked on everything and I didn't know that she like was blowing up on the Internet with of and, and mainly Instagram, tick tock and stuff. And then when we got, we never finished the story. When we both broke up with our significant others and she hit me back, I was like, oh, like, like she's out here. Like, yeah, suddenly. And then we hung out again.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So was it ever like struggle bus or was it. Were you just like overnight sensation?

[Ari Kitzia]

When I started, like, I was not making very much money. I also wasn't doing social media. I started only fans before social media. And I didn't know that you had to like, promote it somehow to get people to like, come on your page. So yeah, I wasn't making much money. And I also was like, there was like multiple like scammy ass, like men managers that were like, you're gonna make millions of dollars, we're gonna help you and like, take all of my money and like put me in like weird contracts and stuff like that. So yeah, it was definitely like a, definitely a struggle at the beginning and getting scammed a lot. And yeah, that's why I always try to like post online. Like, hey, don't just like hop into this without educating yourself and all that because it can be like there's a lot of dangers in the industry that people don't know about.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And have you always been like, super confident? Did you have the like, thing that we all have with posting of, like, people that know me are going to see this and like, did you go through that and just have to be like, it?

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I think even like back in the day when we were talking, I was just posting like random twerking videos online. So not.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You were like, you never cared.

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I don't, I don't think so. I think that it helps also having, like, all of my sisters, because, like, I'm like, if everybody else in the world hates me, then they don't. So.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Do you remember the moment that you first announced on other socials that you were doing of, and did you use the same social media account that you had from, like, high school?

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Really? Okay.

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah. So when I first posted on my story, it was just, like, all guys from high school that were, like, in my sister's grades, not in mine specifically, unless I just didn't know, but, like, yeah, I feel like.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Which is weird, but it's still kind of a. Yeah. Kind of a power move.

[Esther]

Really? The major power move.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah. Like, to make money off of that. Yeah.

[Esther]

But also, like, not even using a new account because you're like, I was scared.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Follow me with my whole rap career. I. I made a different account and was like. Didn't want to look like a lame. So I waited until I was really successful to even tell my mom or my, like, best friends. Like, my best friend. I didn't tell him that I was making music until I had, like, an album out, and I had been doing it for, like, eight months.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And why is that?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Because I just. I don't want to be that guy that's like, oh, I'm a rapper. Listen to my. It was just. That was embarrassing. And I. And I had my face.

[Guest/Partner]

I didn't show my face for the

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

first two years either.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

It is really hard to, like, put yourself out there. It is. It's like, people talk about this all the time for a reason. Like, I felt the same way. Like, I never wanted to be, like, come to my comedy show. Like, it just feels. I don't know.

[Esther]

Are you kidding me? I don't even tell people I podcast because for fear of, like, someone saying, well, who doesn't podcast? Everyone podcasts. Right? But then I find myself having to explain, no, I'm an OG. Like, I've been around for, like, 11 years. Like, I can't explain. Explain that. So people are like, what do you do for a living? I come up with other. I don't say, oh, I podcast. Are you kidding me? How embarrassing. Because then they're like, oh, we do it with, like, they don't. They don't. They don't assume. That's, like, it's my day job. It's my actual job. So I just don't say anything.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

If you're, like, in a random casual, like a waiter, Uber driver or something, like, and they ask you what you do, what do you guys say. I say writer. Which is like, what

[Guest/Partner]

if I'm like in the mood?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And like, you know, I'd say maybe half the time, like if, if I'm down to have a conversation, I'll say musician. And then if they start asking about it, I'll. I'll like just say, I'll tell them the truth. If I'm like hungover or like just tired or something, I usually just say like finance. My, my DJ and I took an improv class and we were working on what, Whatever ground legs. That's what it was. We took an improv class during COVID Online.

[Guest/Partner]

So for like a year or two

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

we would be traveling everywhere for, for tour and to practice improv in the Ubers. We would, one of us would just start, would just make up a story of what we do and then we'd go off each other.

[Esther]

That's fun.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

So we had like some crazy, crazy explanations for what we did.

[Esther]

I feel like finance is a, is a really like stops right there.

[Guest/Partner]

Exactly.

[Esther]

You know, no one's gonna ask anything. You know, if you say comedian, if you say rapper, musician, there's more follow up questions. What do you say?

[Ari Kitzia]

It depends on the situation. Like if I'm going to like the bank or something like that. Usually just say like social media or like entertainer.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

But if it's like people probably like vibe of people in this room, I'll just say like only fans probably. And if it was like maybe an old lady that I wanted to make mad and uncomfortable, I would just be like porn.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

And they, they usually are just like, don't know what to do.

[Esther]

I want to be there for. I did that.

[Ari Kitzia]

I actually did do that at the border once. Cuz the, the guy was like, he didn't believe that I owned the car that I was driving. And he was like, well, what are you doing? I was like, porn. He's like, okay, you can go. And I was like, thanks.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

What would you prefer that I say when people ask me what you do? Like usually if, if someone asked me, I'm like oh, she does, she's a model. She does some social media stuff too. That's usually what I say. A model on some social media. I feel like you say influencer. That's lame.

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Esther]

Influencer isn't.

[Ari Kitzia]

I feel like social media. I don't know. I'm not really a model.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You say mod yourself, then it's, dude, you did a full cover shoot with Playboy. You're definitely a model.

[Esther]

Model for sure. You're A model.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And you've done a ton of that, so you're definitely a model. But if you yourself say that, I feel like it feels less cool. It feels kind of, like, douchey.

[Ari Kitzia]

But I don't know.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't really say model. Like, model social media.

[Esther]

I like writer. You're such a fraud. But you are a writer.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's why I feel like I can say it.

[Esther]

Yeah, but you know what I say?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

What?

[Esther]

Since I say I cannot find it in me to say that I podcast, I say I produce podcasts.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, my God, that's so lame. Like, not that that's lame that you say that.

[Esther]

No, I say I'm. I'm that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Like, you're so not that. And it's so close to what you are.

[Esther]

I can't. I can't do it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

That's a good.

[Guest/Partner]

Like, if you don't want to talk about it, that's a good.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, I think it's a horrible one for that, because they're gonna be like, what podcasts you produce?

[Esther]

Because if you do podcasts, you're like, oh, what do you talk about? Oh, I do one with so. And then I have to get into the Bobby story. And then it's like, it's. It's. It's too long.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I feel like it's too close to what you do.

[Esther]

And it's like, what should I say?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

But it's also, so far, because it's.

[Guest/Partner]

Speak a different language.

[Esther]

Yeah, do that. I speak Messiah. What do you. What.

[Guest/Partner]

What is it?

[Esther]

Beside. It's like a dialect from the Philippines. How does that help?

[Guest/Partner]

Well, if you just speak. If you don't speak English.

[Esther]

Oh, oh, oh, I see what you're saying.

[Guest/Partner]

You have to talk to the Uber driver. Just say something.

[Esther]

But if I walk in, I'm like, hi, good morning. They, you know. Yeah, I can't backtrack from there,

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

by the way. I'm not saying producing podcast is lame. I'm saying it's a lame answer. But for me, mine is also. It's like two. Because people are like, then what do you write? And I'm like, I don't know what to say, because I don't want to say tv. Yeah, I wrote a book.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Ever say actress?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's the worst.

[Guest/Partner]

Is that.

[Esther]

Well, then. Because they say, have I seen you in anything?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, what have I seen you in?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Your main star of a movie?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So, like, I know, but I don't want to. If they don't know, it's best to just.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

That's kind of like saying rapper where it's like, oh, they're probably. Either they're really successful or they don't. Not successful at all.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's tricky.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's like I dress too successful looking. So like, if I say something and they're like, oh, yeah, you do that.

[Esther]

Well, I get the opposite. At the bank. They're always questioning me. They are. They're always rejecting me, questioning me because I. I'm similar to you in that, like, you know, we don't brush our hair a lot. We roll up in sweats everywhere.

[Guest/Partner]

Me, I think it's just the chain or chains.

[Esther]

I feel like you're so just like, you present. Very shiny.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Esther]

So it's hard to not wonder what you do.

[Guest/Partner]

I've had people a lot of times like that don't recognize me. I've just heard this a few times, especially in other countries. Like, you look like you would be famous. Like, you look like you should be famous.

[Esther]

And there are people that just are shiny like that.

[Guest/Partner]

That's cool. I never thought that by myself. That's a cool thing to think, you know?

[Esther]

Not us little.

[Guest/Partner]

I think it's because I'm tall too.

[Esther]

Not us. They think I'm like committing like identity theft. They think that I'm up to bullshit. Like, I remember when I first. I bought my first home, they kept looking at me while looking at my Crocs. They were just like, things aren't adding up. She looks like a fudgeing bum ass loser.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Dude, are you kidding? When I went to, I forgot what, like after premiere party I was at, and then this girl comes up to me, she's like, do you guys have more cups? I'm like, I don't work here. Like, what are. Like when I first met David Spade, he's like, oh, are you a pa? Like, who are you related to? I was like, no, David, I'm on this show with you. It's just. It never ends. What?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

David Spade, horny guy?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

No.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

I just have had a lot of, A lot of girls that have been hit up by David Spade.

[Ari Kitzia]

I also know that I don't, I don't think that he got me, but I think that a lot of my

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

friends have been slid on.

[Esther]

I don't think that's a secret. I think he's a horny guy.

[Guest/Partner]

I think that's a bad thing. Like, good for him. He's like, he's getting around.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

He's definitely not horny around me, so

[Esther]

I don't think he's ever been horny around me either. So we're safe.

[Guest/Partner]

He's looking for love. Maybe he's not horny. He's looking for some young love.

[Esther]

Do you think that that's a thing that some people maybe just don't have? That microchip that, like, seeks companionship and love?

[Ari Kitzia]

That some people don't have that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Because I do wonder. They always say, like, you know, humans, like, we're flock animals where we always yearn for deep friendship and companionship. And I always look at these eternal bachelors and I'm like, what is it? Is it just that, like, companionship isn't something that they, like, yearn for? Is it always just a fuck and that's it?

[Guest/Partner]

I think I have. I have a few friends that have had bad enough relationships where they just, like, don't want to do it again. And then like, they're in a situation like a touring artist or something like that, where they can have, like, a bunch of little relationships in different places. They just prefer that.

[Esther]

Because I understand it from a woman. Woman's perspective of, like, never being in a companionship. Because, like, I understand sisterhood and I understand, like, we get so much from, like, our, like, external relationships that aren't romantic. But I always wonder, like, when men are alone or like, these eternal bachelors, it looks sad, but when I see a woman alone, it. I'm like, oh, she's free. It's like a double standard. I see it differently.

[Guest/Partner]

I think for men, they almost always are. They're looking for love. I feel like, like, all my homies that are older and single are like, they're. They're looking for a girlfriend and they go through girlfriends, but they're not like, you know, they're not married. They're just. They're trying.

[Ari Kitzia]

I think it's just because women are so, like, nurturing.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

Because, like, a girl could just have all of her friends and, like, feel the same, like, nurturing and support, but guys don't do that for each other as much like, they do in different ways. But, like, I feel like women can give each other, like, all of the stuff, but, like, men can't for each other as much. Like you guys wouldn't cuddle with each other in bed, but girls would do that or, like, brush each other's hair or, like, give each other back massages, but you guys probably wouldn't do that.

[Esther]

I wish you would.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We. I mean, you might. I do for.

[Ari Kitzia]

I think you guys would actually buy

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

homies, but maybe not cuddling. Not A lot of guys I cuddle with Austin sometimes have you.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Okay. There's this clip of Chris DiStefano, who's just like, everyone knows him. He's super funny.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Stefano.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's right.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I mean, that sounds right, but I was thinking DeStefano, but, like, what do you say?

[Esther]

I say this. I think I say it the way you do.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Sounds smoother that you blew the girl away. He has a podcast, right?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, yeah, he has a couple. Yeah. Yeah. He's so funny.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

He hits me up a lot. I should do it. Yeah.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

He is amazing. We have him on the show. We love him. But he had this viral clip of him talking to his baby mama, and he basically was saying, like, I fall in love with men, but I have sex with and, like, have, like, a relationship with a woman. And I thought that was so interesting because I do feel like, like, over on the girl side of the conversation, we're kind of like, is that what they. Is that what happens? And for him to, like, come out and say it. And I'm just curious, did you have

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

more details on the fall in love part?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Like, it's not sexual in any way. It's just like, I have a really close, close relationship with. Or they feel.

[Esther]

I think I also feel like San Andrew Santino came on his podcast and said that if it wasn't for his desire to, like, have sex with a woman, he would rather be in a relationship with a man. And it's more like, like, a lot of men maybe seek validation from other men. Feel. I don't know what it is, but, like, I. I feel like, not. Not a lot, though, because if my partner would have be, like, I. I prefer the companionship of, like, men. I don't think I'd date him because I need him to be. I need. I need him to be my friend. I need. I would want him to really enjoy, like, our time together and not just kind of, like, grin and bear our days together. Do you know what I mean?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I feel like every guy I've ever dated is always at some point, like, I wish I was gay. I'm like, what the does that mean?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's just because, like, we. You know, you have your best friends that you never, like, argue with, and, like, it's all. You know, you support each other in all these, like, bro ways. But I think if you actually became gay and tried to date that person, it would just the, like, relationship and jealousy stuff would come.

[Esther]

You'd argue.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

If you could convert.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I think it would become a problem. Yeah, but it's like, yeah, like a best friend situation. Like that's. They just got replaced by her recently.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I love that you're admitting it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And they're jealous.

[Esther]

Isn't hanging out with a, with a girl so fun? Like, we're just. I'm sorry, but we're just like supreme beings. Like, it's so fun to be a girl.

[Guest/Partner]

I've always really like enjoyed being in a situation, especially if I'm the only

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

guy and there's a bunch of girls like, like you and all your friends and I can just like, it's just fun. And I'm used to that too.

[Guest/Partner]

With my mom.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Like, I would go place with my

[Guest/Partner]

mom and she'd have her friends or I bring girls and I don't know, I just like women more overall.

[Esther]

And has your mom always been like pretty nice to people you've dated or has she been like this one?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

No, it's, it's funny. There was like my first.

[Guest/Partner]

There's been like three or four serious girlfriends, but like three that she had contact with her being the third first one she would like text her way too much and I had to like get on her aspect. Mom, please stop texting her. Like really, she was like, text her all the time. But then like when like she did something that like, or she tried to like break up with me over something. Not my mom, the girl.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And then my mom was like texting

[Guest/Partner]

her like, oh, don't do it. And I'm like, mom, you can't get involved in this.

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh my God.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

My mom is like just such a sweetheart, but like really, really protective of me. And then the, the following girlfriend, she like didn't really like that much and

[Guest/Partner]

I think talked shit to her one time over text and like just always was like, you don't. This is not the girl for you hating like to me directly, but then also hating on her over text.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And now she's like obsessed with, with

[Guest/Partner]

Ariel and, and it's cute.

[Esther]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Wait, how did it affect you though, when. With the second girlfriend where your mom was like, no, I don't like her. Like, how did you handle that?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I was just like, you're, you're tripping, Mom. That's what I thought in the time. I was like, well, I'm like, you're tripping. Like, you'll, you'll find out. It was like she only met her once and she'd always be like, oh, she's pretty. But that's, that's it kind of.

[Guest/Partner]

Right.

[Esther]

But I wonder.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Took me a while to figure it out.

[Esther]

Are you gonna meddle with your son?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I don't know. So, okay, so you have a boy. Yeah, I'm pregnant with a boy.

[Esther]

Stop saying it like that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Okay.

[Esther]

I am having a boy.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's a boy.

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm reluctantly having a boy. I had dreams of many, many girls, but whatever. And so see this, A lot of the times, like Kalila and I are like, okay, we're on this mission. How do we be the best, most non toxic boy moms out there? Because that's such a thing, right? Like, moms who are, like, really obsessed with their sons. And is there anything that his mom does that makes you feel like she's a good boy mom and that would help us?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Such a good mom.

[Ari Kitzia]

She is such a good mom.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't think my mom is like, really, really, really nice. Like, really super out, like, outgoing towards anyone that I bring around her. And she makes friends really easily and like, very, very emotional, like, very positive, but also can like, get up sad really easily. But like, like really expresses her emotions. And like, like if she loves somebody, like, she'll. She texts all my friends all the time.

[Esther]

Wait, I love this because I thought that maybe because I have a huge, like, I'm super emotional and I show my emotions around my family very well. I had this thought in my head that maybe it wouldn't be good to do that as much with my son. But you're telling me, like, seeing that.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

I mean, maybe not during, like their rebellious era or whatever. Like if they're in their little whatever it is, like age 13.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

And they hate on you when they really start hating.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I'm sorry, I mean, I won't deal

[Guest/Partner]

with it too, but when your kid starts beefing with you, I think just

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

like, my mom was very nurturing and always, like, there's also like the contrast

[Guest/Partner]

with my dad, who was stricter. And then my mom would let me kind of like bend the rules a little bit. That was like the. The dynamic for my whole childhood. And then once my dad passed, then it was like there was just no rules at all.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And.

[Guest/Partner]

And I was smart enough by that time to like follow, you know, do. Do things, follow my own rules and keep things safe and not get in trouble, really. But take care of my mom.

[Esther]

Oh, that's sweet. I need a. I need to call your mom and ask her for tips. It's cool to be like, he's a good boy.

[Guest/Partner]

It's always cool to you know, like maybe have stricter rules and then like bend them sometimes.

[Esther]

Yeah, to look cool.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

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[Host 1]

We were doing a little research and we found your smut reading your book. Reading Sensual Readings, we'll call it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yes, yes.

[Host 1]

And we brought a couple with us and highlighted a couple passages. We were wondering if you could read them for us.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yes, yes. I gladly could. Gladly could.

[Host 1]

These are brought from our producer, Ellie. Personal question.

[Guest/Partner]

So okay.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So like it wasn't me.

[Guest/Partner]

Are you?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

So, so there's some highlighted things here.

[Guest/Partner]

Is that where I'm reading?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It checks out. Give it A little bit of context here. The only one who's truly in danger is me.

[Guest/Partner]

No. I whisper.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I tip her chin up, brushing my lips softly against hers. The sharp intake of breath has my cut.

[Esther]

I get called Jules. She can't be reading this.

[Ari Kitzia]

No.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm gonna become a book burner. I'm going full conservative. That is scary.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I had hella people commenting that I should like get that book and read it. And then I, I did the same thing. Opened to a random page and I was like, wow, this is a lot.

[Esther]

I do feel like you should just do audiobooks.

[Guest/Partner]

I've done one.

[Esther]

I mean all of them. I would love to do they. This series should hire you to just read.

[Guest/Partner]

I did a collab with Audible and we did one audiobook and I like, I'm like, let's do more. And yeah, I don't know how to hit up but like I wanna.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Do you read this stuff?

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I don't think I would read it after. Yeah, maybe if it was more just like horny stuff, but maybe not like stalker, stalker rapist vibes.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't like that. But she's like into it. She like plays into it. It's. It's weird, but I don't. There's no, no redeeming qualities. It's just weird. The best ones though, for smut that I've. From what I'm told and from what I've seen and read Akatar, that series is like actually a good story.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

And there's nut busting.

[Esther]

Yeah. My sister and. And Jules reads Acotar too.

[Guest/Partner]

I've been really into reading lately. I went to Iceland with my mom and I'm trying to like do sort of like a dopamine reset situation because like I just stopped taking Adderall and, and stopped drinking for the most part. Besides this buzz ball. Been like kind of, you know, stopped ADDERALL after like 10 years of taking it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

So.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh my God.

[Esther]

Retaking it because you need it. A prescription. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Every day pretty much. Wow.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

So yeah, it actually wasn't as bad of like a come down as I expected, but I just didn't want to like have like video games or something else to do. So I like started reading books and I got really into it. I just read this book called the Name of the Wind. Recommend it for anyone watching this. It's like some wizard type. It's like adult Harry Potter banger. A couple Stephen King books.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I would imagine going off Adderall after 10 years would be like super painful and difficult, but Also, you're so tall. I feel like maybe nothing affects you. Like, you're the kind. You look like the kind of guy that could just eat a whole pizza. And you're like, all right, what are we doing next?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Like, I can eat a pizza for show. Yeah. I say for the first week after, I was pretty tired. I slept a lot, but I was on vacation at a spa with my mom, so it was like, perfect time to sleep.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And then I think for like a week after that, I was like, pretty unmotivated. And now I'm kind of like coming around the bend. And I, like, looked it up and it's on forums people were saying it would take like six months to get your motivation back. But, like, I'm still kind of getting like. I'm sorry, I'm getting it already after two weeks.

[Esther]

I have a question for you both. I was in a very public relationship for a decade, and when that ended, it was super painful for me. Super humiliating in many different ways. What would you say are the pros and cons of being so public?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I think we're lucky because we genuinely

[Guest/Partner]

are like the same person in a lot of ways and we don't fight ever. And I think if we were fighting, then there would be more issues because

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

it would be hard for us to look cute all the time. But pretty much anything that gets captured of us as just normal, wholesome, cute things.

[Esther]

You guys look like the funnest, sweetest, most adventurous couple.

[Guest/Partner]

We're pretty like just normal, down to earth people. I think that helps a lot. Not like some of the other people that are famous in relationships.

[Ari Kitzia]

I don't. I feel like. I never really feel like, super extra about like, that we're like in a super public relationship maybe just because we are used to like, already being at least what I would think that people would experience in like a relationship that was in public. I feel like we just kind of get to do more fun things because of it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We're in a special case, I think,

[Guest/Partner]

because we don't fight and we like, work together well. So we end up doing a lot

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

of, like, brand deals.

[Guest/Partner]

I'll just bring her in on it as well. And vice versa. Like, we get to work together on stuff and like, she helps me with social media, I help her with, like, finance things.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's.

[Guest/Partner]

It's really nice.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

So perfect.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's pretty ideal.

[Esther]

Would you and Dave.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

What?

[Esther]

I mean, you don't post Dave at all.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

He doesn't want to be a part of things. He's made it clear. And so, like, when I get a little bit of him, I'm just lucky.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I never wanted to have a public relationship, and I, like, didn't think I ever would, no matter who I dated. And, like, there were, like, brief relationships I had with big figures that could have been public, but I was like, no. But when, like, her and I were hanging out, I was like, she's so cool. Like,

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I love it. I also particularly love it as, like, a watcher. Like, yeah, I love when people share their relationships and you can just. It just feels like you really get to know the people. I'm super all about it, but I'm like, I'm also someone that shares a lot and he is not a public person at all. Like, he's very private and, like, shy. And he actually is a writer, unlike me, who lies and says that I'm one. So I think it's just his personality. Like, and even when we started dating, like, there was a slow, gradual adjustment for me of like, oh, I'm not going to be so open about certain things anymore, because that's just not comfortable. But still, I. I do cross the line sometimes. Like, I don't know, I feel like he'll, like, open his Instagram and be like, oh, Kalila has likes to have anal on. What's the drug? He's just like, what is your job?

[Esther]

I don't like to have anal on Ambien. I. I took Ambien in high school for my first anal experience because I was so afraid that I wanted to be half checked out. Yeah, this is. It was a crazy story because you

[Guest/Partner]

don't have Ambien now.

[Esther]

No, no, no, no. I don't around with ambient because I'll tell you why I don't around with Ambien. I was extreme dieting in my 20s. And this is before keto, there was Atkins diet. And I. I had a zero carbs in my body and I was so hungry all the time. And I took an Ambien one night and I woke up in the morning with like 20 plates around me and crumbs of food. And it turns out before they had like the slow release Ambien, I slept, ate. I ate in the middle of the night. I slept, walked my ass to the fridge and pig the out my mom

[Guest/Partner]

would do that with.

[Esther]

Really?

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah, I remember seeing it, like, multiple times. And then I stole Ambien from her when I was like 14. And my friend and I would take it and like, if you stay awake, you get into like a euphoric Trippy.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Guest/Partner]

Sort of feeling.

[Esther]

That's it. That's it. That was the whole thing, right? Like, if you stay past, you know, if you stay awake, past when you're supposed to go to bed, then it becomes, like, psychedelic.

[Guest/Partner]

You know, what's interesting was, I think.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't think we talked about it last. We talked about other drugs last time,

[Guest/Partner]

but there was a while when I was, like, late high school where I got an Ambien prescription.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

In high school?

[Guest/Partner]

In high school. So I had an ambient prescription. And I was taking it, taking it during the day because it didn't make me tired anymore, but it would give me this, like, euphoric feeling. And I had, like, a summer where I was working at a summer camp and I was the fishing director, and I had my own little lake that I would just hang out at every day. And then the kids would come after a few hours. So I'd wake up at, like, 7am Take an Ambien and, like, swim in this lake and, like, look at the sun. And it was like, the most. I'll never forget, like, that couple weeks where I was, like, I don't know, euphoric. And somehow it just didn't make me tired.

[Esther]

Camp counselors are crazy.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I like that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I love that people can just do anything.

[Esther]

They can do anything. You know, drugs affect them differently. Everything is a euphoric experience.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Like what you're talking about. I'd be dead in two hours. Like, there's no way.

[Esther]

Anal on Ambien. It would be dead in two hours.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

And then the lake. On the lake, I can't swim. I can't tolerate drugs. Like, that's just a disaster for me.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Anal and Ambien while pregnant. Sounds like a bad idea.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, I think so. I think especially.

[Guest/Partner]

Why are camp counselors crazy?

[Esther]

Because you guys always come up with stories about how you guys were on drugs and swimming in a lake on

[Guest/Partner]

AM

[Esther]

while, like, being the fishing director. You know what I mean? So I'm like, okay. And it's every camp counselor I come across, they always have these wild stories of being on drugs on a lake.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I want my kids, our kids to go to camp. Summer camp. They have to. Because, like, when I went, that was

[Guest/Partner]

when I learned to express myself.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And I loved all the. All the counselors and, like, away camp. Yeah. Like, you go stay there for, like, a week. Like, like, what? Hot American summer type camp where you sleep in the cabins.

[Esther]

That's good to know. I would have never even considered camp for my kid.

[Guest/Partner]

That's what I did, and it was beautiful.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

People love camp.

[Esther]

They do.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Did you go?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

People are. It's like a cult.

[Guest/Partner]

It's like a cult.

[Ari Kitzia]

Sounds like my worst fear. Probably, like going to a camp by myself and having to make friends with people that was.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Right.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Sleeping away from home.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Some of my best friends, like, literally, like my photographer Dylan, who I met

[Guest/Partner]

when I was 10, who. That she knows. Like, he works for me now.

[Ari Kitzia]

Did you know anyone when you went or. It was like all just new people.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It was a couple kids from my high school, but most of them I met, like, new friends.

[Esther]

And do you go back the same year with the same group of kids?

[Guest/Partner]

We go back the same week every year. And like, there'd be new people every time. And then. And then once you get to know them, everyone there. Well, then you, like, get older and you become a counselor in training. Then a counselor. And like, I never knew until. They're really good at hiding it. Like we as the counselor, like, all the ones that you hear about that turn up, they're good at hiding it so the kids don't know. And you know, you're. You're on point when you're around the kids that you're not around.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I have a question for you. So I, in my stand up lately, I've been talking a lot like, how I'm pregnant with a boy and I don't really want a boy or whatever.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

And I.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

But my first is a girl, so I do have a girl. But at one of my shows then this couple raised their hand at the end. They're like, we just wanted to share that we have five boys. And I'm like, were you guys trying, like, that's a lot of kids. Like, were you guys trying to. To get a girl? And they're like, yeah. I'm like, oh, my God, that's crazy. Is. Do your parents ever talk about, like. Because it's a lot of you. Were they trying to get one boy?

[Ari Kitzia]

No, my dad missed his vasectomy appointment. Actually, that's why the. My mom got pregnant with the last girl. So they weren't like, trying. I think they were like, after four, they were like, oh, well, guess we're not getting a boy. And then they were like, oh, actually, I guess we're pregnant again.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It really.

[Ari Kitzia]

So he missed the appointment and then it was just another girl. So I don't know if they were trying. I feel like our dad had fun, like, having all girls too, especially because we all, like, played sports and like, her dad's really cool.

[Guest/Partner]

About it.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I have such a hypocritical take on this. Like, and I know I, I just feel like every man should have a daughter. Like, there is no bond more special than, like, father daughter.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I want to have a daughter more than.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah. Like, when I see my husband and my daughter, I'm like, that is like, what I'm on this earth to observe. Like, I love, I'm so happy to be, like, a part of that. But then I, I, I don't feel like that about, like, mother son, but

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I don't know it. No, just. You'll get there.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Really?

[Esther]

I think so.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

My mom and I are so tight.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Really?

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's like one of my best friends, you know, really? With her and my other bestie. Yes. Text her every day. She's so cool.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That is what we want.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And I think the reason why I'm like, a lot of the positive things about my personality, people like it, I think, and, like, my ability to bond with women easily is because my mom and how much time I've spent with her.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Do you feel like mother son is magical?

[Esther]

Mother son for me is absolutely magical. And which I was, like, not expecting at all because again, I was like, I've only, I only have sisters. Right. Like, I love everything about sisterhood. I can't think about a life without my sisters. But when I had a son, it's just like, it doesn't matter. But also, like, the way that a little boy wants his mama is really, like, next level special. And this isn't even in, like, a boy mom way, the way all babies need their mama. But, you know, you have a little boy and he's just, like, very, like, rugged, and he wants to up all day, but then when it's time, he's like, no, I want.

[Guest/Partner]

My mama is like, oh, moms are so comforting.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I was always, like, very close with my dad, but, like, a little bit closer to my mom. Always felt a little bit like, you

[Esther]

know, it sounds like you just had great parents.

[Guest/Partner]

I did have really good parents.

[Esther]

And that. You have great parents. You have great parents. And I think that it's not like a boy girl thing. It's just a good parenting thing.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yes.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You know what else I think is a really good recipe for, like, a successful relationship that you guys have. Just, like, on your. What just naturally is a lot of times in your 20s for me and many people that I know, like, for a girl, like, you got a boyfriend and you're like, that's everything. Like, that's like my Whole world, like, and you kind of. Your friends go to the side, but it's like you have these built in. You have this many sisters. Like, you're never. He's never going to be your only thing. Like, you're always gonna have these sisters to go to. And I always try to tell people that, like, your boyfriend, your partner is not there for everything. Like, they're your partner. They're there for a lot, but it's not the person you go to with every little thing.

[Esther]

In my m. A One stop shop for all.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Esther]

All the things happening, I think that's

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

a recipe for a disaster. But when you. You lean on friends or your siblings or your parents and other people, like, it makes for a much.

[Esther]

This is so true. Because there are things that I'll stop myself halfway if I want to share something with my partner. And I'm like, I stopped myself. I'm like, you know, he isn't the audience for this.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Like, it's nice that he knows this. This is what's going on, but this is actually not, like, the kind of support that I need. So I will go to, like, my sister for it, and then she's able to really give me, like, the support. And sometimes I'll go to him that. For things that she can't necessarily, like, help me with.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah. And I feel like in my 20s, like, I would just go to the. The boyfriend for everything, and it's like, they don't. That's not. It's not how successful partnerships work.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I think we're super integrated into each other's, like, crews, you know, like, her sisters and me all have a group chat. We all, like, plan things together and trips and stuff. And then I have, like, a group with my whole household. And then we have a separate one that's the Round Valley Queen group, where it's like, all my boys that live at my house, which is between, like, 4 and 7. Like, if she's coming over, it's like, all right, Queen's coming. Clean up. Like, get it ready. Like, they're all, like, they all love her and they all want to, like, take good care of her. So, like, all my boys are, like, protecting. And, you know, if she needs something, like, assembled, like construction, you know, the boys go over there and help out.

[Esther]

You don't assemble?

[Guest/Partner]

I. I don't. No, I could.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I.

[Guest/Partner]

Well, I could and I've tried, and then, like, I always get pissed, and I just don't feel. I'm like, this is a waste of

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

my time

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

having kids. There's so much to assemble. I feel so bad for Dave. I'm like, there's another thing here to assemble.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah. I just order all day. I don't even consider assembly because I just, like, that's not my job.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

He's probably good at it, though. Aloha probably likes.

[Esther]

Yes. Yeah, Aloha is very good at assembly.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It feel.

[Guest/Partner]

It does feel good when you do it right. But like, I remember doing like a side table thing and the directions were really hard to read and I, like, didn't do it perfectly and it pissed me off forever because I, like, I couldn't fix it then and I had it and I just. It was a little wobbly and I. Yeah.

[Esther]

Oh, the wobble. The worst.

[Host 1]

All right, I have some newlywed questions for you guys. We have some boards that you can write on.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Oh, okay.

[Esther]

Esther and I always lose this. Do we cheated to win.

[Host 1]

For the first questions will be both of you guys answering, like, all four of you answering at the same time. And then there's a few that are more targeted where you have to kind of guess what the other person would. Would answer.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

All four. Oh, okay.

[Host 1]

Right. First question.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Who's the better driver out of us.

[Host 1]

Yep. And then between Kalila and Esther and don't show each other your answers. Who's the better driver of the. Of the partner? All right, if we're. Are we ready to flip?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Host 1]

All right, flip them.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Hopefully this should be very easy for us,

[Esther]

but barely. Barely.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Okay, y' all got it, right? I said her.

[Guest/Partner]

Hey.

[Ari Kitzia]

I was gonna say myself, but. But I don't know.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You want to be nice. I mean, I'm not a bad driver,

[Guest/Partner]

but you just drive.

[Ari Kitzia]

Only because one time you hit, like, that mailbox.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ari Kitzia]

But I also hit a car. When I was texting you a picture of that hotel we stayed at, I

[Guest/Partner]

was thinking about your driving in Whistler, and it was really good.

[Esther]

Well, that is really. That's major, cuz it's snow and everything. With Esther, I would say, you know, I would appear like the better driver, cuz I am. You know, it's. It's a fraud. I'm a fraud. I drive like a grandma. The only thing I haven't done that you've done is drive downstairs.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's the thing is I drove down the stairs a few years ago, and I'm just. I'm never going to.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

That's so funny.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Love that.

[Esther]

But that's. That's the only reason why I said me.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

By the way, thank you for Saying that.

[Host 1]

All right, next up, who's the first to apologize after an argument

[Esther]

they won? Let's go one by one.

[Host 1]

Sure. Let's have our guests go first.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

All right, me or same time?

[Ari Kitzia]

I put both.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

All right, healthy people.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Healthy people.

[Ari Kitzia]

Who's going first?

[Esther]

I'm gonna. Okay, me again. I put Esther, but barely.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Okay, I put me because I'm a coward. But we also kind of never argue.

[Esther]

We never really. I think there was one time that we fought, but I think I. I apologized first. Yeah, but barely. I'm not afraid to say sorry. I'm also. Okay. Sorry is, like, gold in my book.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

But then there was also the time where, like, there was a little bit of a thing, and immediately I was. I called her. I was like, should we go to couples therapy? She's like, what are you talking about?

[Esther]

She's insane. If there's even, like, a one tiny molecule of, like, a bad vibe, she's like, we should go to couples therapy. I'm like, you're crazy. I'm not gonna do that. We're fine.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm a coward.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I think our arguments, if they ever happen, it's usually me saying something that, like, comes out wrong.

[Ari Kitzia]

And then I just.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And then she gets sad, and then we, like, make it up, and I, like, explain myself. So it's almost all. It's very rare, but it's almost always I say something that just comes out wrong. And it's not like, a big deal, but we just get, like, a little.

[Ari Kitzia]

I feel like we've never intoxicated about, like, something serious. Like, last time, you were like, oh, yeah, the dogs are kind of annoying. I was like.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It was like me calling her. I called her dogs annoying and, like, worded it wrong.

[Esther]

Like, honestly, that would make me cry too.

[Guest/Partner]

But I love them, but they were being annoying at the time.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

If.

[Esther]

If someone said my dogs were, like, too much, I would be like, you don't understand. Like, they're my babies.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You know what I said? I think what I dropped was. I might have said, like, everyone thinks they're annoying, or. So I said something like that. So it was kind of fucked up, but it came out wrong. And I was like, oh, my God, did I, like, my bad. Like, everyone thinks your dogs are annoying.

[Guest/Partner]

That's kind of.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

That's kind of bad.

[Esther]

That's. That's harsh.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

It's so harsh with Dave, like, sometimes, like, if there's a little argument, like, a couple hours later, he'll be like, like, is there anything you want to say? Oh, I'M like, oh, I need to think about that.

[Host 1]

All right, guys, next up, who's more chronically online?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, that's hard.

[Host 1]

Let's go ahead and reveal them.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Hey, there we go.

[Esther]

Oh, times five.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Approximately times five, I'd say. I just.

[Guest/Partner]

I'm scared of the Internet.

[Ari Kitzia]

It makes me anxious to do it, so.

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah, she has to.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And I'm anxious to do it. She helps me.

[Esther]

I put me, but maybe I put Esther, but barely.

[Guest/Partner]

You just not even erase it from last time.

[Esther]

Yeah, I just keep it there. Yeah, I think low key. I am. I just. I'm tapped in. I just try not to appear tapped in.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, I feel like you're more low key about it. And I'm not shy.

[Host 1]

Okay. These are about one partner and specifically. And the other person has to guess their answer. Okay. So maybe Ari and Esther will have the answers and Kila. Matt will have to guess what is their biggest ick?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Biggest ick?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

What is my biggest ick?

[Host 1]

What is Esther's biggest ick? Esther write it and then kiss.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Biggest.

[Ari Kitzia]

Not about you?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

No, I don't have any in general.

[Esther]

It's her biggest. Okay, I have one.

[Ari Kitzia]

I wonder if you're going to get this. You might not.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

There's one obvious answer and then go

[Host 1]

ahead and turn them around.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Her most recent.

[Ari Kitzia]

Okay, actually, that. That is pretty true.

[Host 1]

Is that kind of what you said in the car?

[Ari Kitzia]

No, I said men with big egos or if they flirt with me or talk to me.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Same.

[Ari Kitzia]

Same time that I like, cringe in general. But that's the most thing that makes me like, oh, I hate. And I'm mad and annoyed.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

And that's what I was gonna put was like, like men, creepy men hitting on you.

[Guest/Partner]

But then I'm like, the worst possible one. Is that that motherfucker?

[Host 1]

Yeah. Esther Carlila.

[Esther]

I wrote, she doesn't have one because she loves anyone who loves her.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's true. I just. I couldn't think of anything. But I just wrote people posting TBTs

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

because it's like, oh, I like those.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I don't think.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You don't have to think about it.

[Guest/Partner]

And you just post something that happened.

[Esther]

I thought you wouldn't have one because you remember you told a story about how you dated a guy who had. Who. Who worked in a fry fish place and he smelled like fried fish every day and you still couldn't break up with him.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, I didn't want to break up with him. I wanted to be with him.

[Host 1]

All right, we'll switch it for this last one for who's answering for who?

[Esther]

But big egos is so right, by the way.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah. Any guy hitting on you, it's like,

[Host 1]

if they were an animal, what would they be?

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Oh, there's a few options here.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I know.

[Host 1]

Obvious is usually good. That's how you know you can get a correct one.

[Esther]

Think elements. Ostergies.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

No, sorry.

[Esther]

This is how we cheated last time.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I don't understand what she said.

[Host 1]

I think elements.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I know it's wrong, but I have good reasoning.

[Host 1]

It's okay. Kalila and Esther want to go first this time.

[Esther]

If you say some big back rhinoceros, what is it? Are you so.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Tiger belly isn't.

[Esther]

I have no relations to tigers. I said any water animal. I even put dolphin because I'm like, she doesn't know anything other than a dolphin.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

But you're like a tigress.

[Esther]

I'm a tigress?

[Ari Kitzia]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I'm a. I'm a water animal. I said think elements. I told you, we always lose this. You don't know me.

[Guest/Partner]

Give her some extra options.

[Ari Kitzia]

I have extra options, and I'm scared.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You go first.

[Esther]

A maned wolf.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Oh, hell.

[Esther]

A snow leopard.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Hendrix. Okay, she. She snapped, so maned wolf. You guys gotta put a picture up on the podcast.

[Guest/Partner]

What that is. It's like the lankiest fox wolf thing.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

You. You. She actually outdid me because that is,

[Guest/Partner]

like, my favorite animal.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

That's so cute.

[Guest/Partner]

Like, the pictures of it, like, walking. It's so lanky and.

[Ari Kitzia]

Oh, cute.

[Guest/Partner]

One bad.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We joke about that a lot. I put golden retriever plus lion plus

[Esther]

otter plus octopus all over the place.

[Ari Kitzia]

This makes sense because you're really smart.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

But I like octopuses a lot.

[Ari Kitzia]

The other ones I feel like are just based off of the looks of them. Golden retriever and lion. Because, you know, the hair I get

[Guest/Partner]

compared to golden retrievers a lot.

[Ari Kitzia]

Snow leopard is, like, one of the

[Esther]

coolest animals and very elusive.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Hendrix is my dog, and.

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah, I get that.

[Host 1]

Very cute, you guys. Well, ranging champions.

[Esther]

But, you know, otters are. Even though they are so cute and so wonderful in many ways.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Yeah, they're.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

They're rapists.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, my God.

[Guest/Partner]

Oh, that's right.

[Esther]

They drown.

[Guest/Partner]

Yeah, they rape and drown.

[Esther]

They do that. Yeah, they're crazy.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

There should be a smut book about otters.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Weren't we talking about some kind of weird rape last time, too? Like, was it dog or something?

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Oh, no. Maybe I brought up my uncle's dog.

[Host 1]

Go.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Sexually assaulted and impregnated.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah.

[Esther]

What?

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

My cousin Maggie, the dog.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

The cousin's not a dog. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Anyways, on that note, thank you so much to our guests. It was so fun hanging out with you and finally getting to meet you.

[Ari Kitzia]

Cool.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Are you guys promoting anything? Are you on tour or.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

I'm off tour now and I'm making new music.

[Guest/Partner]

It's really fun.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

We shot a video for a song called hbo, which is my next single.

[Esther]

Oh.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Nothing to do with the. With the programming.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

Okay.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

Thing. Just a little Bitches on me. Hbo.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

I'm curious. And what is the best place to find you on social media? Because it's obviously very complicated.

[Ari Kitzia]

I have a lot of different ones. I feel like Instagram always.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

It's just like the main gravy and Ari Kits. Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Okay, cool.

[Host 2 (Kalila)]

You guys, thank you so much for being here and thank you to our listeners. And we'll see you guys next week with a brand new episode.

[Matt (Young Gravy)]

A brand new one.