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A (0:00)
This is what Walter Benjamin means when he says that fascism is the addition of the aesthetics to politics. It's about feeling good.
B (0:06)
Yeah.
A (0:06)
And so for this, for Davos, it's about Trump feeling good.
B (0:09)
There's like also like the reverse seems to be in play in terms of like, it's a place where you can sort of like fabricate what's going, sort of going. You can, you can, you know, you can. It's a place where you go to rationalize the horrors and fabricate what's sort of going on. And for a very long time, like, you know, the system that has been in play, I think. And this is where Carney is sort of right, which is in the sense of like, well, it's self congratulatory, but we've also sort of like allowed ourselves to kind of as in like, you know, these countries have allowed themselves to, you know, turn a blind eye in order to sort of like, uphold the fiction and to sort of allow the dehumanization of certain people and certain kind of groups and communities while sort of convincing themselves that it's for like this kind of greater good. You know, it's to sort of sustain the liberal triumphalism. But then what happens when like, as you mentioned, you know, these, you know, the senile rapist and you know, his non senile rapist friends take over this power that for a long time, like they've, everyone has had to sort of like, at least profess some sort of belief in. And you know, for them to be like, no, actually it was never like this because this is it. It's also like, you know, the Trump administration is very much one of like the way that we are governing is not going to be like other administrations, but also like they understand what, what the, what the US State is and they understand what the empire is and they understand what its purpose is and they like it and they like it and they think fun and they think it'. And when you sort of see how they react to all the horrors happening in Minneapolis right now, as well as all the horrors happening in Gaza and in the west bank and all the other places where they are sort of facilitating wars, the thing that they will say is, actually this is all good and we should do more of it and if you don't like it, then there's the door and also we're going to invade you as well.
C (1:48)
It's because it all comes down to spite. It's just the sort of animating factor in American and I think Canadian politics for the Last at least 5, 10 years has been spite, like scoring points on the other side. And now, and now we're seeing what happens when those people are in charge. And to them, you know, Gaza is just, Gaza is just owning the enemy. You know, not even, not even Gazans, just people at home. The same with Minneapolis. It's like they'll, they'll kill and pepper spray as many people as they like. You know, they'll trick a five year old into knocking on his dad's door and then arrest his dad because it pisses people off. And that's all there is going on.