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“Read the room” is often said after a moment goes sideways—but in leadership, it’s the moment before things go sideways that matters most. Let's break down why reading the room is a cornerstone of executive presence and can strengthen credibility. It’s not about charisma or intuition—it’s about awareness. From in-person meetings to virtual rooms, great leaders don’t just deliver messages; they observe, listen, pause, and adjust in real time. Because leadership communication isn’t complete when you finish speaking—it’s complete when people truly understand. Highlights include: How to spot warning signs like agreement without engagement. Virtual meetings and why silence does not equate to alignment Practical strategies to sharpen your ability to adjust in the moment The 'Power of the Pause' is a leadership move. Asking better questions or a well-timed question can increase engagement. Visit our websites to explore more leadership conversations and tools, and join our Patreon to support our programs and to gain access to exclusive content and behind-the-scenes insights. Timestamps: 2:36 Increase Engagement 9:57 Ask Great Questions 11:26 Practical Strategies

In a world where change is constant and certainty is rare, learning agility has become one of the most critical leadership capabilities for long-term success. Leaders who thrive today are not defined by what they know, but by how quickly they learn, adapt, and apply new insights in real time. Learning agility— the ability to continuously learn, unlearn, and relearn— is positioned as a leadership differentiator that fuels growth, relevance, and trust across every level of an organization. We touch on how learning agility shows up with elite athletes, musicians, and through everyday leadership moments. Learning agility enables leaders to navigate ambiguity and adapt rapidly to changes. They seek out and embrace feedback, stay curious and take ownership of their personal development. We also uncover practical ways leaders can build learning into their daily routines through micro-learning, coaching, peer groups, and intentional reflection. The takeaway is clear: learning-agile leaders don’t just improve themselves—they model a culture of growth that allows their teams and organizations to thrive. Never stop learning and visit AppMeetup.com and Amazon for our learning resources. Timestamps: Grow in Self-Awareness 9:51 Career Impact 13:19 Choose Curiosity 16:11

Sail the seas of tech and AI with experience and confidence. Gavin Garbutt, Co-Founder and Chairman of Augmentt shares how MSPs must evolve to secure and manage Microsoft 365 and SaaS environments. Adopt a security-first mindset, and dramatically increase technician capacity through standardized Microsoft security best practices; through a unified Microsoft Security Management Platform designed for MSPs. Gavin outlines why “blocking and tackling” fundamentals—leveraging audits and maintaining a consistent security posture—remain critical as MSPs prepare for AI-driven growth. Key Highlights: How Augmentt represents the “next generation of RMM” for Microsoft 365, Intune, Defender and SaaA visibility. Intune Autopilot enables MSPs to standardize, audit, and deploy policies across multiple tenants. 'Secret Sauce' for fostering successful partner and customer relationships. Series A funding, strategic partnerships and marketplace strategy (including Pax8) accelerate innovation and scale. Gavin’s vision for unified security, AI enablement, and helping MSPs become more profitable. The charge to go from being reactive to becoming proactive; for 10,000 users per tech and 5x revenue per tech. From sailing the open seas to navigating the channel’s next wave, this conversation delivers practical insight for MSP leaders planning for 2026 and beyond. Visit augmentt.com/ to learn more and to take advantage of a free security audit report & tool. Timestamps: Audit as a Best Practice 13:31 Quickfire Questions 32:45 What to Expect 36:26

The Future Is Already Here: What My Daughter Taught Me About AI In this special episode, Danny is joined by a very special guest—his daughter, Zoey Brown—for a candid and eye-opening conversation about how the next generation is already living with AI. While many leaders continue to debate adoption, Zoey demonstrates what natural, creative, and fearless AI usage actually looks like in practice—from homework support and music creation to writing and designing her own book. Highlights include: Reframe AI as an assistant—not a replacement—and how “the gap isn’t about access; it’s about adoption.” How Zoey uses AI today to support learning, artwork, writing, music, and content creation. Connecting real-world examples to practical applications for professionals and business leaders, emphasizing that the future belongs to those willing to start small, ask better prompts, and simply try. Zoey’s perspective of, “AI is not scary—it gives you more freedom to be creative and see your ideas come to life.” The next generation isn’t asking if AI will replace jobs—they’re asking, “What can I create?” Become a Patreon member and visit AppMeetup.com to learn more about our learning and development resources. A special thank you to Danny's daughter for her help with our book entitled, Identically Opposite: Find Your Voice and SPEAK. Pick up your copy today. Timestamps: How AI can be leveraged 3:21 Supporting our latest book 8:40 Words of encouragement 11:35

In this special, we reflect on insights from 2025 and what leaders should prepare for in 2026. From the realities behind last year’s AI hype, to the need for emphasizing execution, data quality, culture, and leadership. We also touch on experiences gained from producing over 400 podcast episodes. We also look ahead to 2026 as the focus shifts to responsible and agentic AI moving from theory into practice, and to AI integration across business functions. We even lay out some of our commitments for the year ahead—tying AI to measurable business outcomes, investing in learning frameworks, and taking more calculated risks—while reinforcing a core belief: technology adoption without mindset and culture change will not stick. Key Highlights AI in 2025 was all the rage and yet execution and data quality were true differentiators. Action beats indecision, and sustainability beats speed. Growth comes from focus, not endless expansion. Culture and mindset must lead technology adoption. 2026 will emphasize Responsible AI, agentic workflows, and outcome-driven benchmarks. Continued commitment to provide resources, including our AI simulation, courses and books. Be intentional, stay informed, and be bold as you build for the future. Become a sponsor, Patreon member and pick up our latest book entitled, Identically Opposite: Find Your Voice and SPEAK. Timestamps: Leverage AI 6:02 Identically Opposite SPEAK framework 9:12 Responsible AI 23:22

As 2025 comes to a close, let’s press pause before pushing ahead into the New Year. We want to make the case that a deliberate year-end leadership review is not optional—it is essential. Too many leaders roll straight into the year with ‘bigger’ goals but carry over the same habits, skipping the hard reflection that drives real progress. A proper review goes beyond listing accomplishments; it asks whether your leadership actually mattered, where it created value, and how it impacted people and results. When treated as a growth conversation rather than an administrative exercise, a year-end review becomes the foundation for clarity, trust, and momentum. Highlights: Why effective leadership reviews must be reflective, celebratory, and strategic. Three core dimensions of a 2025 leadership review: value delivered, performance under pressure, and accountability How avoidance and slipping standards quietly undermine results. Turning reflection into action by setting one clear leadership theme and one defining outcome for 2026. Be 'intentional' and leverage technology and resources including ours. Why focus, discipline, and accountability are the keys to truly “crushing” your goals next year. Thank you for your continued support. Visit AppMeetup.com for more learning and development resources, including our books, journals and training programs. Timestamps: Review 3 Aspects 6:40 3 Review Dimensions 10:03 A Performance Multiplier 19:10

Described by an attendee as the 'Super Bowl for MSPs', IT Nation Connect did not fail to deliver. Events and communities like IT Nation are vital to ensuring you are fitted with necessary tools and resources to meet the demands for greater protection, support and growth. This is why over 7,000 attended IT Nation Evolve, Summit and Connect in-person or virtually. The week was filled with incredible workshops, activities, coaching, performances and speakers from all over the world, including Tony Hawk and Bob Burg. You've made it through an amazing conference; now what? It's time to make sure you've made the most of your conference experience. Did you hit your goals? Are your next steps clearly outlined? Gregg Lalle, SVP & GM of IT Nation shares how TSPs and leaders can build from the momentum of the week.Highlights include: Amazing growth of ConnectWise and IT Nation, including 3,500+ in-person attendees with 150+ solutions partners.Some of his key takeaways from IT Nation Evolve, Channel Summit and Connect.Benefits of joining a peer group. An unashamed recognition of others making an impact within the community. Opening Keynote as well as the handoff from Jason Magee to Manny Rivelo.3 Pillars of IT Nation: Community of Communities, Partner-Centric Ecosystem, Education First. Slogan of "Wise Together. Rise Together"The live event may be over, but you can still register for a FREE virtual pass and access 100+ on-demand sessions and 6 Keynotes through February 8th.Follow Gregg on LinkedIn and visit connectwise.com/theitnation to learn more about IT Nation. --- more ---If you are looking to learn the art of audience engagement while listening for methods to conquer speaking anxiety, deliver persuasive presentations, and close more deals, then this is the podcast for you.Twins Talk it Up is a podcast where identical twin brothers Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown discuss leadership communication strategies to support professionals who believe in the power of their own authentic voice. Together, we will explore tips and tools to increase both your influence and value. Along the way, let’s crush some goals, deliver winning sales pitches, and enjoy some laughs.Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown train on speaking and presentation skills. They also share from their keynote entitled, “Identically Opposite: the Pursuit of Identity”.Support and Follow us:YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCL18KYXdzVdzEwMH8uwLf6gInstagram: @twinstalkitupInstagram: @dsbleadershipgroupTwitter: @dsbleadershipLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/twins-talk-it-up/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/dsbleadershipgroup/Facebook: facebook.com/TwinsTalkitUpFacebook: facebook.com/dsbleadership/Website: dsbleadershipgroup.com/TwinsTalkitUp

The attack landscape continues to evolve and threat actors are going beyond the office to creatively attack where your employees and team members are. Chris Cleveland, Founder of PIXM joins us to share how organizations can prevent phishing scams and enhance threat detection with 'eyes in the browser.’Highlights include:Leadership journey and why start PIXM.Ally of AI computer vision to identify new phishing attacks, and providing added protection at the browser level.Phishing is not just an email security challenge, but an issue across all social platforms including the use of QR Codes and text messaging.Making it easy to work with the community and the impact being made in the educational market.Growing with the IT Nation Community.Follow Chris on LinkedIn and visit pixmsecurity.com/partners/signup/ to learn more about becoming a channel partner. --- more ---If you are looking to learn the art of audience engagement while listening for methods to conquer speaking anxiety, deliver persuasive presentations, and close more deals, then this is the podcast for you.Twins Talk it Up is a podcast where identical twin brothers Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown discuss leadership communication strategies to support professionals who believe in the power of their own authentic voice. Together, we will explore tips and tools to increase both your influence and value. Along the way, let’s crush some goals, deliver winning sales pitches, and enjoy some laughs.Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown train on speaking and presentation skills. They also share from their keynote entitled, “Identically Opposite: the Pursuit of Identity”.Support and Follow us:YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCL18KYXdzVdzEwMH8uwLf6gInstagram: @twinstalkitupInstagram: @dsbleadershipgroupTwitter: @dsbleadershipLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/twins-talk-it-up/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/dsbleadershipgroup/Facebook: facebook.com/TwinsTalkitUpFacebook: facebook.com/dsbleadership/Website: dsbleadershipgroup.com/TwinsTalkitUp

Empowering the Managed Service Providers (MSPs) community involves equipping them with the necessary tools, resources, and support to drive growth, improve service delivery and strengthen client relationships. Dor Eisner, CEO and Co-Founder of Guardz, a cybersecurity company focused on protecting small and medium-sized businesses shares how they are addressing the unique challenges SMBs face, such as limited budgets and IT resources, by providing a unified, easy-to-use platform that integrates security and compliance tools.Highlights include:Background from being a commander in the Intelligence force.Meeting with cyber insurance carriers to better understand the type of attacks they are dealing with to develop their framework.The importance of education and partnerships, like their collaboration with SentinelOne, to stay ahead of emerging threats.Encouraging SMBs to prioritize cybersecurity through basic protections and trusted solutions. Hiring the best talent to stay ahead of the competition and threats.Building and strengthening partnerships within IT Nation.Follow Dor on LinkedIn and visit guardz.com/ to learn more about their unified platform for threat detection and response across identities, emails, devices and data.--- more ---If you are looking to learn the art of audience engagement while listening for methods to conquer speaking anxiety, deliver persuasive presentations, and close more deals, then this is the podcast for you.Twins Talk it Up is a podcast where identical twin brothers Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown discuss leadership communication strategies to support professionals who believe in the power of their own authentic voice. Together, we will explore tips and tools to increase both your influence and value. Along the way, let’s crush some goals, deliver winning sales pitches, and enjoy some laughs.Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown train on speaking and presentation skills. They also share from their keynote entitled, “Identically Opposite: the Pursuit of Identity”.Support and Follow us:YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCL18KYXdzVdzEwMH8uwLf6gInstagram: @twinstalkitupInstagram: @dsbleadershipgroupTwitter: @dsbleadershipLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/twins-talk-it-up/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/dsbleadershipgroup/Facebook: facebook.com/TwinsTalkitUpFacebook: facebook.com/dsbleadership/Website: dsbleadershipgroup.com/TwinsTalkitUp

Sensitive topics aren’t easy to address, but they are necessary until true change occurs. The temptation is to become angry and choose sides instead of taking the time to pause, inject empathy and simply breathe. Jamie Burton-Oare, CEO of Jomaja Films, and actor Stephen Hill, speak to the power of storytelling through their impactful short film, Breathe.Highlights include:Marking the 10th anniversary of Eric Garner’s death with a project to address systemic injustice and explore resilience and humanity in moments of crisis.The Journey Breathe the Film is on for recognition and with the goal of being nominated for “Live Action Short Film’ award by the Academy.The creative process behind Breathe, including collaborations with amazing actors, key figures and Grammy-winning artist Shabazz Palaces.Magnum P.I., Voiceovers and Auditions.The value of networking, including HBCUs and Film Festivals. Storytelling is an amazing tool that can be used for social change. Don’t be led by fear but be guided to serve, protect and elevate voices. Continue to elevate your leadership, creativity, and impact.Visit jomajafilms.com/ to keep up with news on Breathe and follow Jamie and Stephan on Instagram with the following handles:@stephenhillacts@jamieburtonoare@jomajafilms --- more ---If you are looking to learn the art of audience engagement while listening for methods to conquer speaking anxiety, deliver persuasive presentations, and close more deals, then this is the podcast for you.Twins Talk it Up is a podcast where identical twin brothers Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown discuss leadership communication strategies to support professionals who believe in the power of their own authentic voice. Together, we will explore tips and tools to increase both your influence and value. Along the way, let’s crush some goals, deliver winning sales pitches, and enjoy some laughs.Danny Suk Brown and David Suk Brown train on speaking and presentation skills. They also share from their keynote entitled, “Identically Opposite: the Pursuit of Identity”.Support and Follow us:YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCL18KYXdzVdzEwMH8uwLf6gInstagram: @twinstalkitupInstagram: @dsbleadershipgroupTwitter: @dsbleadershipLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/twins-talk-it-up/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/dsbleadershipgroup/Facebook: facebook.com/TwinsTalkitUpFacebook: facebook.com/dsbleadership/Website: dsbleadershipgroup.com/TwinsTalkitUp