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Jonathan Van Ness
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Sabrina
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Corinne
Yes, our poor husbands, they have died because they murdered him with disentang.
Sabrina
I also want to do like a Singing in the Rain if you're, like, listening. If you're, like, listening.
Corinne
If you're, like, listening right now.
Sabrina
What the fork are these talking about? Yeah, we added to our set today.
Corinne
And it's October, so things change and shift and we buy a lot of.
Sabrina
Things and we shift into vampires and werewolves on the full moon.
Corinne
Because this is two girls, one ghost. Two girls, one ghost.
Sabrina
And we are your morning ladies. That is Corinne.
Corinne
Hello.
Sabrina
And I am Sabrina. And this is an Encounters episode. And as you know, in October, we get a little weird, we get a little spooky, we get a little haunted. And so do you. So.
Corinne
Well.
Sabrina
Well, you guys get hunted all the time.
Corinne
It's not that doesn't change.
Sabrina
Not a seasonal thing.
Corinne
As if our podcast changes seasonally. We just add props.
Sabrina
We just add Props and maybe characters. It's a different mindset.
Corinne
Yes. Yes.
Sabrina
We become possessed.
Corinne
I should put my hands on the. Oh, what if I just, like, whipped out a Ouija board right now? I don't own one.
Sabrina
I would absolutely believe you were possessed because that's not like you.
Corinne
No. Something would be wrong. Very wrong.
Sabrina
Very wrong. And we'd be on Tiffany Reese's podcast.
Corinne
Something was wrong.
Sabrina
Something was wrong. It was the moment she pulled out a Ouija board. And that was when I knew her first season.
Corinne
All based on possession.
Sabrina
Honestly, Tiffany, let's talk idea. Idea. But okay. So today's theme for the Encounters episode is what lurks outside. What lurks may be perhaps specifically in one region that has been terrifying us and haunting us and all of your ears for the last year. Appalachia.
Corinne
Appalachia. Appalachia. How dare she say it the way that the I'm burning house does. I'm melting. I like how we went a full eight years saying Appalachia. Appalachia. Yeah. Now I like. How did we say it? The Appalachian Mountains. Because that's how we pronounce it in the Northeast. We were raised, but I think we got bullied into saying Appalachia. It took eight years for us to finally succumbed to it.
Sabrina
And we succamed.
Corinne
You guys won. We succamed.
Sabrina
We succamed. Appalachia.
Corinne
Appalachia.
Sabrina
Can I fix your shawl?
Corinne
What about this? What if we start like this?
Sabrina
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, bitch. Sorry, sorry. I don't know.
Corinne
Yes, bitch.
Sabrina
That looks good.
Corinne
This is definitely what they did. They should have their little seance morning circle.
Sabrina
They boob thrusted. Well, I will unveil yourself.
Corinne
I'll bring my veil up.
Sabrina
Oh, that's the vibes.
Corinne
Okay, okay. We found it. We found it. Great. And this is called Growing up in Deep Appalachia.
Sabrina
Great. Perfect.
Corinne
You have my permission to read all of the names. Did everyone else give permission?
Sabrina
I feel like if they don't say to change it or they don't personally change it, you're giving us permission.
Corinne
Yeah. Okay. And then they write, enjoy my childhood trauma. Lol. Hello. My name is Megan. I grew up in a little town in West Virginia. We lived in a cheaply built one story house with three bedrooms. I had heard from my mother that I'd always been an odd child. According to her, I would tell people that I could see their feelings.
Sabrina
Oh, my.
Corinne
That's so beautiful. I wonder if she could see auras maybe and like, the colors would change and I would tell them what color it Was.
Sabrina
Wow.
Corinne
I was always overly empathetic and I had an uncommon understanding of death at a young age. I have always felt more connected and sensitive to the unknown energies around us. I began to experience sleep paralysis at a very young age. And at about 10 years old, I would find myself frozen in bed in the middle of the night with the comforter pulled halfway over my face, leaving only my eyes exposed. Unfortunately, as a 10 year old, I was unaware of the rule about mirrors in a bedroom. So my vanity was placed directly against the wall at the foot of my bed. Oh my God. Just a portal at the end of the bed.
Sabrina
You know, I've done that because aesthetically it looked pretty.
Corinne
Yeah, right. Sometimes it's like portal that could enter the other realm and let in demons or feng shui.
Sabrina
Well, actually, not feng shui.
Corinne
Yeah, it's just aesthetically pleasing.
Sabrina
And also.
Corinne
But not maybe energetically pleasing.
Sabrina
Yes, exactly.
Corinne
And in this mirror, I always saw her in it, staring right at me. I couldn't close my eyes. I was forced to look at the black and gray shadow of this young girl with long black hair standing in the center of the mirror, looking right at me in the mirror all night long.
Sabrina
You legit had a portal in your life?
Corinne
Yes. The only way that she went away was if I had passed out from exhaustion after hours of heart pounding fear.
Sabrina
So she never actually went away?
Corinne
No, no. You just passed out? Yeah, because I was kept up most nights I started falling asleep in school and failing my classes. This same thing would continue to happen for years, slowly evolving into a more interactive experience each time. And interactive is such a kind word to say that you were probably being more attacked.
Sabrina
And interactive usually implies like both ways.
Corinne
Yeah, we think it's like.
Sabrina
No, like this is. You're not an active participant or willing participant in this interaction.
Corinne
This girl would come out of the mirror. She would kneel down at the foot of my bed with her greasy black hair over one eye. And she had this menacing smile staring right at me through her brow. Her face was so close to the bed that I could hear the sounds of her sharp breaths against the blanket. The sound continues to haunt me to this day. Eventually, after begging to move the mirror, my grandfather helped me remove it entirely. But apparently she didn't need a mirror anymore.
Sabrina
No, she got in.
Corinne
Yep.
Sabrina
I mean, she was kneeling at the side of your bed.
Corinne
She was already out.
Sabrina
Yeah, she crawled out. Maybe if you moved it when it was just her standing in the mirror looking at you.
Corinne
Maybe.
Sabrina
But she got out.
Corinne
I knew she was still there. But this time I couldn't see her. I would go to sleep and instead of being woken up and forced to stare at her, it would begin before I fell asleep. I would lay down and my mom would stand at the doorway, reassuring me that the many dream catchers that I'd hung up would start working. And then she would turn out the lights before closing the door and leaving. I would lay as still as possible and listen for any strange sounds as I squeezed my eyes shut. And then, before I even had a chance to doze off, I felt it tugging slow. Inch by inch, the blanket moved to the foot of the bed, forcing me to keep pulling it back up. It was subtle at first, but after a few months I'd wake up and the blanket would be completely down by my waist. I'd be too frozen in fear to try to retrieve it. Every night until I grew up and moved out. I would have to tuck the blanket under the mattress to feel comfortable enough to get in bed.
Sabrina
So not only are we not safe outdoors, we're not safe indoors either.
Corinne
No Update. I am 26 now with two babies and a husband. We traveled back to our hometown last year and ended up having to sleep in my old childhood home in this very room.
Sabrina
And she probably was so excited to have you back.
Corinne
My husband had heard my money stories but never really believed me until the first night in the house. We were laying in the old bedroom and our two babies were sleeping between us. He sat up, looked at me without a word and I asked, you feel it don't you? And then we stayed on my parents living room floor for the rest of the trip. Lol. Jeez. I was so freaked out by my bedroom growing up that I convinced my little brother to switch with me at around 12 years old making him, the 10 year old, move into my bedroom.
Sabrina
Oh poor guy.
Corinne
My thinking was his room would definitely be better than mine. All I'd heard my brother complain about was having nightmares and sleepwalking out of the house. Okay, so he has some stuff too. What? So we moved all of our stuff to opposite rooms and I was ready to sleep. My first night in this new room I laid in the bed. I tried to get comfortable but I still had a sense of unease. Except in this room it was more of a deep sadness that I was feeling. As I was trying to fall asleep. I started hearing a faint whining coming from the ceiling quarter in the dark room just above my head to the left. It sounded so close yet so far as if we weren't in the same dimension, but maybe the veil was just thin enough enough for me to spot or hear this thing. And this sound did not stop for hours. I was once again frozen in fear, and eventually I passed out from exhaustion. When I woke up, the sound was masked by birds outside the window and some morning traffic. I looked up in the corner where the sound came from, and it was as if I could see the energy moving around like it was this glowing static. I left the room, and I went to go tell my brother about my experience, and he just looked at me and said, you can hear her, too.
Sabrina
So he'd been experiencing the same.
Corinne
That's why he was probably like, hell, yeah, I'll take a new room. We never spoke of it again. I chill.
Sabrina
I can't believe you never spoke of it again. I'd be like, okay, let's sit down and debrief and go through every experience we ever had.
Corinne
I'd also be like, let's share a room. Which I did with my brother. I don't know if Christian wanted to, but I moved in. He was like three when I moved into his room. I got my old room back. And now that I think back to it, my brother always complained of not being able to fall asleep at night and feeling a deep sadness. His exhaustion ended up having some major effects on his life. I continued to deal with the horrible energy in my room for years, to the point where my family even raised money to help renovate my room in an effort to get me comfortable in there. So we began repainting and getting new furniture and decorating it to my liking. We were in the middle of the process, and I had made temporary curtains by draping a throw blanket over the curtain rod until my grandma would finish making my new ones. And one night, my little cousin was sleeping over, and we were about to go to bed. So we made our way to the room, and we changed into our pajamas. And we stood in front of the dresser, which was under the window and the makeshift curtain, and I was pulling my shirt over my head when I saw between the blanket and the window, the mesh screen on the outside started lifting up as if someone was trying to get in. I froze. I watched it jaggedly pull up on one side at a time. My cousin had spotted it, too. She was now frozen with me. I finally worked up the courage to tell her to run, go get my mom. And she did. I grabbed the baseball bat next to my bed, and I pulled the blanket down, exposing the rest of the window to look for someone probably running Away. But there was no one. Just a mesh screen halfway lifted and a street lamp right outside, illuminating the suburban street.
Sabrina
Especially knowing that this is Appalachia. That reminds me of so many stories we've heard of SWS pedestrians trying to get in through the window.
Corinne
Yep. I ran to my mom. We called 911 thinking maybe it was an attempted break in. But they did nothing.
Sabrina
They did nothing.
Corinne
Oh, man. That was kind of a similar story when I lived in la. Every time I called. Yeah, literally was attempted kidnapping. And they were like, okay, thanks. Yeah, okay.
Sabrina
Like, until something actually happens.
Corinne
Basically escape. But sure. A few weeks later, after gaining the courage to sleep in my room again, I was sleeping in my bed, and for some reason, I was facing the window, which still had the blanket for a curtain. I was woken up by a light flooding my bedroom around 3am of course. So I open my eyes and I'm instantly frozen by the sight of the blanket. Had suddenly fallen from the rod, which was weird because I had zip tied it in place and it had never fallen until now. It wasn't dangling on one side or drooping. No. The whole blanket was now on the floor as if it had been pulled down with force.
Sabrina
The fact that it was zip tied.
Corinne
Mm. Because of the streetlight right outside the window, I could clearly see the mesh screen was already more than halfway raised. And again, no one was there.
Sabrina
Why does this feel like such a different energy?
Corinne
Yeah. I don't think this is the girl.
Sabrina
No. Because the girl's already inside.
Corinne
I had never been so terrified in my life. I couldn't physically bring myself to move. It felt like a half hour had passed before I even managed to move my legs. And then I ran to my mom. We once again called the police. And then they came and searched for signs of anyone walking nearby, but they found nothing. No fingerprints on the windows, no shoe prints, nothing. They patrolled the neighborhood. They parked a cop car in front of our house all night to reassure us and make sure no one came back. The last part of the story gives me chills.
Sabrina
To this day, more chills than you've already given us.
Corinne
I was in high school at this point, and one day I sat at a new table for lunch. At this table sat one of the school's weird girls who I actually loved. High schoolers, so judgy, who happened to be doing readings of people at the round lunch table where we sat. Love her, right? She's not weird. She's amazing.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
And weird is good. I sat and I listened to her go around to Everyone and tell them if they had attachments or loved ones following them. And it was really interesting. Despite my skepticism, when she came to me, she skipped me and instead did my best friend who was sitting next to me. After finishing the last person, I asked, what about me? She took a deep breath to compose herself. I don't really want to tell you, she said without making eye contact. But of course, everyone at the table is now insisting that she go on. I told her it's okay, you can say it. I reassured her. So she took a long pause and asked me a question. Do you have two closets in your bedroom? My best friend looked at me knowing that in fact I do have two. This girl would never know that. I confirmed it to the table now filled with wide eyes. Okay, are they right next to each other on the same wall though? And one is a double door closet, right? She asked my friend and I snapped our heads to me, eyes in shock, once again wondering how she knew that. I told her yes, and I'm now shaking. She continued with a shudder and nauseated look on her face as if she was seeing an image in her mind's eye and she said, well, it's in one of those two doors and it likes to crawl. Oh.
Sabrina
Why is that specific? Such a. Oh.
Corinne
Oh. The entire table shuddered and let out squeals. But she was right. I had seen it myself. And she definitely liked to crawl. From Megan.
Sabrina
Well, I don't like that she liked to crawl.
Corinne
No, no. Good old classic West Virginia, filled with hauntings. In and out.
Sabrina
Yeah, I just don't like any of it.
Corinne
Right. It's so scary because it's like the hauntings are inside, but they're also in a portal. And then the portal gets closed, but the hauntings are still there.
Sabrina
And then when you think that you're.
Corinne
Escaping, like something is to come in.
Sabrina
Which we have no answers to that.
Corinne
No.
Sabrina
Neither does Megan. Which, I'm so sorry, but let us know if more things happen to you there. Do you still live there? Do you want us to come investigate?
Corinne
No, she doesn't remember her husband and her kids. They went back and they stayed.
Sabrina
Well, that means they still have access to the house.
Corinne
They still have access to the house? Yeah. Okay. I wonder if her kids are going to experience anything.
Sabrina
Well, this listener, Isabella, experienced some things. I actually found this story when I was trying to pick stories for the demonic possession encounters that we recorded last. And this one has both. Appalachia demons, possessions, all the good stuff. All my favorite. All my favorite things. These are A few of my favorite. Whoa. Why did I sing it like that? These are a few of my favorite things.
Corinne
Okay. Hi ladies.
Sabrina
Recent listener here to give you some context for the story. While I don't consider myself a witch, I am a strong, sensitive. It's not something that I consider a strong part of my identity or everyday life, but it exists. Most of the women in my family have some type of skill, but mine is the strongest.
Corinne
Hair flip.
Sabrina
I am the sort of person who can walk through any antique store and sense the haunted object in the corner. I don't actively practice, but since finding your podcast, I have been trying to pick up on the supernatural on command. And I'm getting much better lately.
Corinne
You know how when I was at the antique store and I saw all of those dolls and I was like, one of these is haunted. The one that you were like, it's definitely her. Yeah, I was checking my DMs yesterday and multiple people took like screenshots specifically of her out of the like eight dolls and was like, it's her.
Sabrina
Am I tuning in?
Corinne
I think you are.
Sabrina
Hair flip. Okay. Isabella says, lately I've been scaring my sister with my spooky, accurate questions about her day and trying to read her aura. So anyway, here's a story that happened early this year. I am a senior university student in Winchester, Virginia. My University is about 45 minute drive from the Appalachian Trail, meaning that she's probably in Appalachia. We are a historic colonial town and Winchester is not plagued by cryptids or violent supernatural beings. However, it is my personal belief that the ghosts of soldiers who occupied Winchester are still active soldiers. They will not let the cryptids near the city. I have no proof of this, but it's such an old town that it's nearly impossible that I haven't heard of any haunting in the four years I've lived here. So this is the story about what I believe was a demonic presence that slipped through the town barrier.
Corinne
Oh, that's such a creepy way of saying it.
Sabrina
I live in a dorm room solo. It's just me and my dog. I walk her to the back of the parking lot to use the bathroom multiple times a day. And I have done so for years with zero problems. Then it was later in the afternoon. One day it was still bright outside when I took my dog outside. I'm standing there on the edge of the parking lot when I started to get the feeling that someone was behind me. I didn't think much of it at first considering it's a busy parking lot. But when I glanced over my shoulder, I quickly realized it was deserted. And it was then that I realized how quiet it was outside. No bugs, no birds singing. And that feeling that something was near was growing more and more intense. And then, once that realization hit, I realized my sensitive abilities were giving me a warning. It was the feeling of something so strong I could feel dread wash over me like oil on my skin. Fear and darkness that I couldn't shake. It was so close, it felt like it was just paces away from me. I mustered all the assertiveness I could, and I turned on my heel to look at it. Sure, I couldn't see anything, but I knew it was there. It seemed shocking that I could sense it, and I felt hesitant. But I yelled in a frustrated tone, you are not welcome here. Leave now. Go away. And it was like I could sense it take a step back, not used to being acknowledged or perceived. It stopped for a second, but then it reached out towards me before I could get close enough. I pulled my dog close to me and marched back to my room, trying to go as quickly as possible without looking like I was scared out of my mind, even though inside my head, I. I was. Soon I reached my door, I locked it, and I ran to my jewelry cabinet. I put on every single lucky piece of jewelry and religious symbol I had, and for the next hour, I sat in bed staring at the door, trying to wipe away this feeling of demonic energy off of my skin because I knew it wanted me. I try not to think about the way that that thing's presence made me feel, but when it comes to mind, I can truly feel the vague remnants of that encounter creeping over my shoulder like it's still there, waiting.
Corinne
Oh, I hate that.
Sabrina
Oh, hope my story didn't scare you too much. And in case you're wondering, my dog seemed oblivious to the whole encounter. So great. Zero help. Love your podcast.
Corinne
So much for trust your pets.
Sabrina
I know.
Corinne
Well, it's not after me.
Sabrina
Isabella's so in tune that her dog is like, trust Isabella.
Corinne
Yeah, yeah, you got this.
Sabrina
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Sabrina
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Corinne
I use Nutrafol. Got pregnant, had a baby, all my hair fell out. I was like, smeagol, seriously. And so I started using Nutrafol and now I have just like a crown of baby hairs all over.
Sabrina
It looks amazing.
Corinne
Thank you. My hair is actually, I got a compliment from a hairdresser the other day. They said my hair is really thick. And I was like, I have not heard anyone say that in years.
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Sabrina
Well, isn't that Appalachia just. That is. That's the energy there, especially with the cryptids and the kind of ominous energy. And yeah, sure, there's positive spirits, and then there's the soldiers, you know, kind of throughout the whole Appalachian regions, which I like this theory that the soldiers of this town are still protecting the town in a way. But how can you protect everywhere?
Corinne
Wait, have you seen what the 911 call that's been released and is going around where there's this man who calls. I think he's, like, in Virginia or somewhere. Somewhere that, like, you know, is right near wars and people, like, specifically dying. He calls and he's like, oh, my God, I just passed this man on the side of the road. He's looks like he's covered in blood. I think he's, like, in a uniform of some type. And he gives, like, direction of where exactly he was. And then as he's driving, he started screaming, oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's not human. That's not human. And the person's like, what's going on? What's going on, sir? And he's like, it's in my truck bed. It's in my truck bed.
Sabrina
And he's like, oh, my God.
Corinne
Freaking out.
Sabrina
Oh, my God. I thought you were. You were gonna say it disappeared, but no, it's now literally in.
Corinne
It was like, something. Yes.
Sabrina
I. I'm not okay.
Corinne
I have chills, too. It's been circulating online, and someone looked up the exact location and did some research into the history. And right there, there had been a. A man who died during one of the wars and was shot in the head or, like, had some really traumatic injury that, like, would have placed him in uniform completely. Like, that bloody. Yeah. And, like, he was crossing over a river. And, like, the guy died right at the river. And it's like the water adds power to the spirit realm. And so people were like, he's like, this is the ghost.
Sabrina
Like, in the trunk. Bed is scary.
Corinne
Yes.
Sabrina
Yeah, because that feels active. That doesn't Feel like a residual energy.
Corinne
I know. It is really scary.
Sabrina
I am curious how many calls there are like that that we just don't know about, because especially in a place like Gettysburg. And I'm sure, like, the police get that a lot where they're like, oh, it's just a ghost, you know?
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
But I imagine that people see spirits.
Corinne
Like that all the time. All the time. Because even, like, my parents had worked with someone who, like, in their ring cameras. Had what? Oh, yeah.
Sabrina
How do we get that footage? I want to see that.
Corinne
I'll look through my text with my mom. She might actually have it. I feel like maybe she sent it to me.
Sabrina
You guys, I want all of your ring camera footage of ghosts.
Corinne
Yeah, but it was like they. They had the soldiers from the Revolutionary War just, like, captured. Like, you could hear them. You could see them going across the streets.
Sabrina
Can we please go to Gettysburg?
Corinne
I would actually love to do that.
Sabrina
Okay.
Corinne
I feel like there's no way we wouldn't get some sort of activity.
Sabrina
Well, and also, like, no matter where you are in Gettysburg, like, if you stay in a hotel that's, like, outside of, like, the Gettysburg field, like, you probably still are getting stuff.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
To be planned one day in the future.
Corinne
All right, this next one is called Appalachia. Cryptids can ride bikes. Hey, ladies. It's like E.T. yeah. And fun. Home. Hey, ladies. My name is Ry. They. She. I have a spooky story which I believe might be about a flush pedestrian. Let me set the scene. I went to go hang out with my best friend, but was on my way back home. It's 2am Ish at this point, and I have my dash cam on because it automatically turns on when I start my car. It was late January, upper East Tennessee, southwest Virginia area. So middle of nowhere, Appalachia, and it's cold as fuck. I'm on a back road. It's very hilly and curvy. I'm less than five minutes away from my house. I top a hill. Definitely speeding, because I was comfortable on the road. And as I'm about halfway back down the other side, I see a man, or what I thought was a man on a bike. He's just sitting on it in the middle of the road, not moving. I obviously slam on my brakes and I slow down super fast so that I don't hit him. But I know the rules of after dark. So I make sure my doors are locked, my windows are rolled up. I'm going super slow. But I so vividly remember what this thing looked like, and it still haunts me almost two years later.
Sabrina
Oh, no.
Corinne
He was tall, sticky, pale, concerningly bony, and had very lanky extremities. He had on a thin black zip.
Sabrina
Oh, we have a trash bag in our studio that. Something shifted in there, which why that trash bag.
Corinne
Not to be gross, but like, that trash bag has been in here for weeks.
Sabrina
And it's not like. It's like studio trash. So it's like unreal.
Corinne
There's not like food or whatever. Yeah, it's just like packaging.
Sabrina
I did move it yesterday.
Corinne
Oh, you did?
Sabrina
When we were reorganizing.
Corinne
So maybe there's just a little extra shifting. I'm not sure.
Sabrina
Something in the atmosphere made it shift. Ah.
Corinne
He had on a thin black zip up jacket and shorts. But it was January, so that was crazy if you ask me. I was worried a little bit until I saw his face. Or maybe lack thereof, I suppose. He literally had no facial features. It was just blank skin covering the whole area. His neck snapped to quote, unquote. Look at me. And I booked out of there as fast as I could. I got home. I've never ran in the house quicker. And I made sure every window and door was locked, all curtains were closed. I got in my bed, I didn't sleep until the daylight. And when I got in the car the next day, I went to go look at the dash cam footage to make sure I wasn't crazy or hallucinating. And the camera got all of my drive except for the last seven minutes. Convenient, considering I saw him around four or five minutes away from my house.
Sabrina
Chills.
Corinne
As far as I know, my camera has never done that before or since. I avoided that road for the next few days, but I had to go down it to get to my granny's house. And you guys will never believe me when I say this.
Sabrina
No.
Corinne
But the exact same bike was laying on the side of the road with no one around it. So that confirmed it for me. I hated everything about that night. My mom has since moved from that house, so I don't even live in the state of Tennessee anymore. But I will never, ever forget that night. I have some other small things that happened to me because I did live in the middle of nowhere my entire life. But nothing compares to that night. Mr. Faceless man will live rent free in my head forever. And I truly hope to never cross paths with him again. Love you guys. More than you know. Thanks for being the best. Until next time. Ry.
Sabrina
I'm not okay. Because at first I was like, okay, maybe It's. And this is still sad, or this is more sad than it is scary. I guess maybe it's like a residual energy or like an entity, someone who did tragically pass away on a road while biking. You know, it's like a spirit that's stuck there in some way, but then the way it snapped its head to ry and then the bike being there, like, on the ground the next time, it's yucky.
Corinne
It's icky.
Sabrina
And the whole footage disappearing, the footage.
Corinne
Disappearing, it's like that. That's just, like, so much proof. Like, you can't even just. Yeah, it actually reminds me, I guess they were in other seasons of Wednesday, but, you know, at Nevermore Academy, they will pan to, like, different students and there's, like, specific students that have no face. It's just skin. That's, like what I was picturing this whole time.
Sabrina
But we also see a lot of. Or we hear. We don't see, fortunately, knock on wood, don't ever want to see. We hear of entities like that where sometimes I think it's a spirit who just cannot fully form, like, what they looked like in life. But also you think of, like, Slenderman and, like, some of those dark entities.
Corinne
That are faceless creatures and, like, geographically so speaking. But it is weird, like, wearing clothes and riding a bike and just presenting in such a strange way.
Sabrina
It reminds me of from that show. It reminds me of that because the scary monsters in that show look like us until they don't.
Corinne
Oh, it's such a creepy concept. It seems so scary when it's on screen, but it's even scarier when you realize, like, in just our inbox, there's a matching story for every single thing depicted. Yeah. On screen.
Sabrina
Well, this is a story about a place that, if you seem intrigued after the story, you can stay at because it's an Airbnb. And we read this story on a Patreon bonus episode back in August, and I was like, it has stuck with me so much. And then our listener actually sent us the Airbnb listing. So I was like, oh, I'm going to read it on our main feed and include, like, actual photos to go along with the story.
Corinne
Hold on to your butts.
Sabrina
Okay. Holding. This is from a listener, Natalie, and it is called Appalachia Airbnb that didn't want us there. Hi, Sabrina and Corinne. I'm Natalie. Yes, you can use my name. I also shared this story on Campfire Stories. This happened about five or six years ago, and to this day, I still think about it, especially when I hear stories about haunted houses or the Appalachian region. So my brother and I had just arrived in Ohio from Florida to visit our dad for winter break. He thought how fun it would be to go skiing or snowboarding. So we made a trip to West Virginia. This drive was about four hours and we found an Airbnb roughly 45 minutes from the ski resort. The house was old, built in the 1920s according to my dad. But it wasn't just old. It had a feeling. The second we got there, something felt off. And when you look at the picture on Airbnb, and we won't post the Airbnb listing itself necessarily, I'm sure you can find it if you want, but we'll post some pictures. Yeah, like the exterior of the house, there's just something about it.
Corinne
It's like you want to say it looks like an ordinary house, but there is a feeling. Yeah, that it's a little creepy.
Sabrina
We entered through a side door that led straight into the kitchen. And the first thing I noticed was a narrow, almost sinister looking staircase leading upstairs. It was steep, shadowed, and even with the lights on, it made my skin crawl. The layout of the house was just weird. From the front door you were met with the main staircase. To the right was a hallway that led into the kitchen, and beyond that, another staircase and a second door to the outside. The living room was to the left, with a fireplace and a master bedroom attached to a bathroom. Everything smelt stale, like dust and something faintly rotten, Kind of like an old dirty vacuum. I went upstairs with my brother to go check out the bedrooms. There were four total. Two doors on each side of a long, dimly lit hallway and one door at the very end. When I tried to open the second door on the left, it wouldn't budge. Every other door opened easily, but that one was stuck, like it was locked. I assumed it was maybe a storage room for the Airbnb owner, but standing in front of it made me feel like something was watching me from the other side.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Then I noticed the upstairs bathroom door was wide open, revealing another staircase that led down into the kitchen. The whole layout really made no sense to me. That evening, we're in the living room watching Daredevil when my brother got up to use the bathroom. While he was gone, the fireplace made this deep, ragged breathing sound, slow and unnatural, like Darth Vader exhaling underwater. My dad and I just stared at each other. That was weird. We laughed it off. My brother came back and we told him and he just shrugged it off. That Night, I didn't want to sleep alone, so I shared a room with my brother. I actually slept fine, but my dad didn't. The next morning, while we're getting ready to head to the slopes, my dad told us he had woken up in the middle of the night with this heavy feeling like something was watching him. Then he heard dogs barking outside of his window. But when he looked, the street was completely empty. He laid back down. And then he heard clapping. Loud, rhythmic clapping, like people were partying in his room. He sat up. It went silent.
Corinne
It's so wild because it's just like multiple different. Like the sounds feel so unrelated, but it's just like something's putting on a performance and trying to get 100%. I'll try this now. I'll try this now. I'll try this.
Sabrina
After skiing, we came back to the house and decided to explore it properly in daylight. We started opening everything. Cabinets, closets, drawers. And then we got to that locked door again.
Corinne
But this time it opened.
Sabrina
Inside, it was pitch black. The air felt heavy and suffocating. And there was a single wooden chair sitting in the center of the room. The only light came from a dim red glow, like an old radio or alarm clock. But the only thing is, there were no electronics in there, just the chair. Where was this light coming from? We all agreed, let's close this door. We slammed it shut and ran downstairs. Oh, I think it was just her and her brother who did that.
Corinne
Okay.
Sabrina
My dad didn't believe us at first, so he went upstairs to go try opening it. But now it was locked again. No matter how hard we tried, that door would not budge. So that night, my brother refused to share a room with me. So I went and shared a room with my dad. As we were laying there, he told me, you might hear things, but don't be scared. It's Saturday night. Probably just people outside. And at first it was quiet, but then I heard it. Faint barking. Then the clapping again, louder this time, echoing through the walls, like there was a whole invisible crowd in the home. My dad sat up, looked out the window and whispered, natalie, come here. I got up.
Corinne
He asked, do you see anything? I looked.
Sabrina
Nothing. There were no people, no movement. But this sound didn't stop. The clapping kept continuing.
Corinne
It reminds me of the tower of.
Sabrina
Terror, like, just like the party happening. My dad had had enough, so he grabbed his coat and said, I'm going outside. The moment he stepped outside, everything stopped. The barking, the clapping. Even the air felt like it was holding its breath. And then the BATHROOM DOOR SLAMS I screamed, but I tried to reason with myself. Maybe it's just something with the air, like, you know, my dad coming inside, closing the door caused the heir to close the door here. But when he came back, I told him what happened. His face was pale and he said, I never touched that door. There was something in his voice that made my stomach drop. He woke my brother up, made us all pack our things, and at 4am we got the hell out of there. But before we left, we noticed something crazy. As we were walking in and out to grab our things and take them to the car. The crosses that had been hanging above the doorways when we arrived, they were now upside down.
Corinne
That's.
Sabrina
We had not touched them. No one had. But somehow they were flipped. We didn't say a word. We just left.
Corinne
I hate that, because that's like the classic demonic mockery of a symbol that you feel is there to protect you. And then it's like, protect who? Because I can manipulate this too.
Sabrina
I want to see if there's a picture of the crosses in the Airbnb.
Corinne
Listing, which also makes you think about the people that own the Airbnb. Like, are they truly religious and that was just a part of their home and their decoration choice, or was that there because of things that were experienced?
Sabrina
Okay, well, this picture is really, really creepy. So I think this is the room that they went into. And it has only a wooden chair in the listing photos. It has, like, two twin beds with it too. But I think maybe the beds weren't there in the moment. And look at what's on the wall with this chair. And the chair itself looks like it came from, like, a church.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
It's given ominous vibes.
Corinne
Yeah, it's a little creepy. It almost feels like if someone was trying to make a music video, almost like mocking religion, they would choose that. That as a decoration and backdrop.
Sabrina
Yeah. Oh, that story, it really sticks with me. Like, I can't forget it.
Corinne
It's so creepy and there's so much to it and they all experience it. And it's like, even as a group, like, normally you feel safer when you have someone else with you, but it didn't matter if her brother was with her, if her dad was with, like, individually and together, they're all experiencing stuff.
Sabrina
I want to see what the ratings it has.
Corinne
Five stars for best haunted. Stay most activity.
Sabrina
We will return.
Corinne
Wow.
Sabrina
Peaceful place, apparently.
Corinne
What? What is happening?
Sabrina
Who's paying you to write these reviews?
Corinne
I get so confused. Like, that seems weird.
Sabrina
Not peaceful for Natalie.
Corinne
No. Br.
Sabrina
What do you look for when it comes to your makeup?
Corinne
Something that's easy and effortless, Something that's versatile. Something that I can use on multiple spots on my face. And I texted you the other day, and I said there were swear words, and then I said, I love Merit.
Sabrina
Merit Beauty is like, I have been using it for years. I hadn't tried all the products and now just got a full lineup. I love the face wash. Like the pump.
Corinne
Yes.
Sabrina
And then it also looks fancy.
Corinne
I feel like I'm really fancy now.
Sabrina
Right. And it makes you look, like, very. I feel, like, clean girl chic.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Where I feel dewy.
Corinne
And I feel like it has changed my life over the past week that I've been using it because before, I was like, I can't put that effort in and the time into getting ready. It feels too big of a task. And, like, you got here, and I was like, oh, I got to go do my makeup. How long did it take me? I was down here in two minutes.
Sabrina
So fast.
Corinne
The. I'm obsessed with the blush because I put it on my eyes, I put it on my cheeks, and I put it on my lips.
Sabrina
Like, that is so easy. It's so versatile.
Corinne
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Corinne
Okay, well, this isn't Appalachia, but this is related somewhat to the last story that I had, because this is about a potential sw. A flush pedestrian. Great. And it just reminded me of. We had a. You just did a story from Campfire Stories. This isn't from someone that spoke about this on Campfire Stories. But one of our listeners who was on Campfire Stories, she lives in Utah and she's had so many experiences, like, really, really creepy stories where their house was. Their property was literally under attack, and they went to all the ruins they had around and to protect the property, and they had all been smashed and broken. Like, such an intense story. I hope that she writes this story into us so you can read it.
Sabrina
Did I miss this one?
Corinne
Yeah, it was such a good one. I'm so sorry you missed such a good one.
Sabrina
Damn.
Corinne
But she was like, I'm moving in a few weeks from Utah to. I think she was moving to, like, Kentucky or Virginia or something.
Sabrina
So going from one place to another.
Corinne
Yeah. She was like, I'm going from like SWS to windy boys, so wish me luck.
Sabrina
Damn.
Corinne
But this is sw, so a flash. Pedestrian and government secrets in rural Utah. Great. I love a government secret.
Sabrina
Yeah. Conspiracies.
Corinne
Hi, ladies. I absolutely love your podcast and I've been aching to share this story with people who won't call me crazy. So, to start, I would prefer that my name be left out of the story because I am semi secretive or. Sorry. Because of the semi secretive nature of this location.
Sabrina
Oh, I prefer. I prefer that I am semi secretive. I work for the government.
Corinne
I am this location. So semi secretive nature of the location in which my story takes place.
Sabrina
Okay.
Corinne
Last summer I was looking for a job, and it was my first summer away from home. I was looking for some character building, and I took a job as part of a commission crew that worked for various government agencies. So BLM National Forest. I was really anxious about the job search. So if someone was going to hire me, I was just going to take the job. I didn't know prior to my interview that I would be camping in some of the most rural areas of Utah for nearly 20 years. 12 weeks. What?
Sabrina
12 weeks.
Corinne
Read the job description.
Sabrina
You are so brave.
Corinne
I was pretty nervous about that aspect when I learned. Yeah. During my second hitch of the season, my group was assigned to an experimental range owned by the government. It was never quite clear that.
Sabrina
What does that mean, an experimental range?
Corinne
I don't know. What are they experimenting? Maybe this is the government secretary. Okay. It was never quite clear what they were doing out there or why they were doing it. But after a short Google search of the area, I saw all of these conspiracy theories across online forums about many different things. People theorized that the range was built atop a UFO crash and the research they say that was going on to direct attention away from it. So the first day we go out there, I was trying to hide how frightened I was of this place. The reality is I was going to live and work there for a month. So any way I could make myself feel comfortable with the area, I was going to do it. Totally. The denial of how creepy this place actually was kept me sane the whole time that I was there.
Sabrina
I mean, you have to do whatever you have to do to survive.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
It started with the cabins we were to stay in. Each cabin looks like those abandoned places where people leave in a rush and leave everything behind. The cabinets were filled with ingredients and unwashed dishes from years ago. And there were items left from researchers who had stayed there over the years. There was one cabin that had a basement straight out of a found footage horror film.
Sabrina
Yikes.
Corinne
I walked down there with a flashlight. I noticed a mop sink. And inside the mop sink were hundreds of dead cockroaches. They had come out of nearly every drain in the basement and just stayed there to die.
Sabrina
That is disgusting. And now like they're probably also like rotting.
Corinne
A little further back, I noticed something that set my alarm off. There were four doors lining the back wall. As I opened each door, I noticed each one had the exact same thing inside. They each had a chair and a mattress. All these closet sized rooms had no lights, no ventilation, and locks on the outside. I would be sleeping in this house for a month.
Sabrina
Do you sleep in one of those rooms?
Corinne
I hope not. The work I was doing out there was very simple. I was there with three other people to restore a hundred year old fence. There were miles and miles of this fencing and the temperatures out there reached 120 degrees at the hottest. And the coolest parts of the day would be about 75. And that was the very coolest. I got sick of one of my co workers pretty quickly because he was a bit of a princess and he had never really had any manual labor job before and he was pretty into his phone so he wasn't really happy with the whole thing. Sounds like the job description was not clear to anyone.
Sabrina
To anyone?
Corinne
Yeah. He wasn't from the southwest like the rest of the crew. And might I note that there were only four of us, including me. I grew up hearing all kinds of stories about flush pedestrians and learned very quickly to take those stories seriously.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
This co worker, let's just call him James, he thought that it was funny to say the name of this creature out loud.
Sabrina
Yikes.
Corinne
As loud as he could. When we were out in the middle of nowhere working and Minding our own business. He would whistle at night, taunt us with the threat of saying the Navajo name for this being. He didn't know how serious we were about it. There was one time when I had to hike away from the work truck in order to fix a super remote fence. And this was about an hour walk away from our only means of transportation. James decides to shout the Navajo name for a flush pedestrian at the top of his lungs.
Sabrina
Smurf.
Corinne
I wanted to punch that jackass so bad, dude. I probably would have. Me and the only other girl on my crew were pissed. Yeah. We have all been together without much sleep for too long, and James is just putting us over the edge. So we're arguing about how disrespectful it is. And in the heat of all of it, my supervisor tells us shut up. And tells us to look. No more than 20ft away is an antelope staring at us, unmoving for about 10 minutes and then almost unprovoked, it ran out of sight with such speed. Each morning for about four days, we would see this antelope in the same spot by the gate in the range, waiting for us. It would stay perfectly still until we passed in the work trucking, and then it would run away as fast as it could.
Sabrina
Honestly, it feels like it's keeping an eye on them because it knows James is naughty. Naughty boy.
Corinne
I don't really know if this kind of behavior is normal for the animal, but that detail is worth saying in my opinion.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
A few days after the antelope incident, me and my supervisor wanted to explore something that we saw a few days prior. When the workday was over, we drove out to a small canyon lined in volcanic rocks. And it was super, super cool, and we wanted to explore it. We hiked through the Canyon for about 30 minutes, and by that point, it was starting to get a little bit darker. So we decided, hey, let's turn around. And just as we were about to reach the truck, we noticed a smell. The sweet rotting smell that cannot be mistaken for something else. It was decay. Something near us was dead and rotting. The smell makes us gag as we're searching for what this source could be. To our left, right next to the entrance of the canyon, is a gruesome sight. A completely skinned and bloated corpse of a cow is right next to us.
Sabrina
Oh, my baby.
Corinne
In silence, we both marvel at the sight. How did we both miss this on the way in? How did we not notice the smell? We both drove back to the cabins and agreed, never to speak about this with the rest of the crew. We didn't want to scare them because this actually happened during our first week.
Sabrina
Ugh, Great start.
Corinne
Thanks for seeing you on the other. Thanks for seeing you on the other. I cannot read today. Thanks and see you on the other side. We'll call this person a.
Sabrina
Well, if that's what happened in the first week, what happened in weeks two, three, and four?
Corinne
Right?
Sabrina
And did James finally, like, behave himself?
Corinne
I don't know. But James, sorry, this is. I would have been Lord of the Flies. You're gone, James. You're kicked out of the cabin.
Sabrina
I honestly.
Corinne
You're locked away in one of those four little creepy rooms.
Sabrina
Please never take a job where you're working with four people in the woods for four weeks. Because I think after week one, it would turn into Lord of the Flies.
Corinne
With you there. It would be solo. It would just be me. If someone's doing that and taunting the paranormal, there's no way I would have called and been like, this guy can't be on the crew anymore.
Sabrina
But I am curious if he.
Corinne
You have to fire him. He's gone.
Sabrina
If he learned his lesson, I hope he did.
Corinne
I wish everything was just targeted at him and not the whole crew experiencing things.
Sabrina
At least. It was mostly just a watching, like, observing them and keeping an eye on them. Because in my mind, I'm like. It seems like a lot of these entities. Yes. We don't know their intentions, but it does have this, like, watchful, making sure to keep you in line situation. In this story, at least.
Corinne
I don't know. James learned his lesson.
Sabrina
James, where are you?
Corinne
James, you need to grow up.
Sabrina
Grow the fuck up.
Corinne
I'm actually really mad at you.
Sabrina
I love how we can say James's name, but we can't say our listener's name. And it makes me so happy because we were just, like, outing James.
Corinne
Yeah, James, do better. Maybe you have better and cranky. And it was a manual labor job, and you're probably very frustrated, but some things are not to be fucked with. And you tried to fuck with it. You put four people, including yourself, your lives at risk.
Sabrina
We're mad at you, James.
Corinne
Can you tell I am mad at you?
Sabrina
You know, I do hope to never be in any situation similar to any of our listeners from this episode. Because as much as we love to talk about Appalachia and the outdoors, I think it comes from a I never want to experience it place. And I really hope none of you do either. But if you do, email us. Email us your stories, whether they're about Appalachia, the outdoors, demons, ghosts, aliens, whatever it may be, please email them to us at 2girls1ghostpodcastmail.com Shout out to our.
Corinne
Team, Jamie and Emma. Thank you guys so much for your support and all that you do for two Girls one Ghost.
Sabrina
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Corinne
Really creepy campfire stories told by people who experience them themselves. Yes.
Sabrina
And so much more. So many cool things over there. So check us out over there and.
Corinne
We will see you on the other side.
Sabrina
Very spooky.
Episode: Encounters x303 – True Appalachian Hauntings & Horrors
Release Date: October 16, 2025
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
This chilling Encounters episode dives deep into true Appalachian hauntings and horrors, featuring spine-tingling listener submissions centered around the mysterious, often unsettling energies of Appalachia. Corinne and Sabrina navigate stories of supernatural sleep paralysis, demonic encounters, cryptid bike riders, haunted Airbnbs, and government secrets – all set against the eerie, legend-rich backdrop of the Appalachian region. The episode’s theme, “What Lurks Outside – And Sometimes Inside,” underscores how this corner of America is never short on ghost stories or inexplicable phenomena.
You’ll come away with both an appreciation for the bottomless strangeness of Appalachia and a fresh set of horror stories to keep you up at night (or out of the woods after dark). Whether it’s haunted bedrooms, cryptid cyclists, demonic Airbnbs, or government secrets in the rural wilds, this episode is packed with real, lived terror—presented with the signature humor and heart of Corinne and Sabrina.
Send your stories to: 2girls1ghostpodcastmail.com