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Corinne
Vampire warriors in black leather and tattoos. Passionate love stories that pierce the heart. This keepsake collection. It's more than just an insider's look. It's a love letter to the fans, the world, the unforgettable characters that have made the Black Dagger Brotherhood a genre defining phenomenon.
Sabrina
Inside this all new 20th anniversary insider's guide, Ward reflects on the journey, sharing the behind the scenes moments, heartfelt memories, candid writing advice and insight into the challenges and triumphs of her long and legendary career. She also brings back the original brothers in a mix of classic content and never before seen material including Karine.
Corinne
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Sabrina
Oh.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Very spooky.
Hello. Was that a hello?
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Were people supposed to hear that?
Corinne
I don't know.
Sabrina
Everyone get your supersonic hearing ready because.
Corinne
Guys, I'm out of breath. Just ran up the basement stairs. One flight of stairs gets me these days.
Sabrina
I've been climbing six.
Corinne
Oh shit. Yeah.
Sabrina
The building that I.
Corinne
Life in an old city.
Sabrina
Yeah. And there's a. Well, there is a little elevator, but I'm trying to make myself walk the stairs. Oh, and work on my boot. Okay.
Corinne
When I lived on the sixth floor, I certainly took the elevator.
Sabrina
Unless I'm carrying things. Then I will take the elevator. But otherwise forcing myself to take those stairs. Get that booty. That gluteus maximus as lifted tight. Yeah, exactly. Because I'm not working out otherwise. So yeah, my stairs are my ex.
Corinne
I was going to say me neither. But actually I really love the studio that I go to. Amethyst Studio.
Sabrina
Shout out to our listener.
Corinne
Hey, Olivia. Olivia started a workout studio. It's like bar pilates, yoga. They do sound baths and Reiki.
Sabrina
Oh yeah, you did. You end up doing the sound bath?
Corinne
No, I had to cancel last minute.
Sabrina
It was devastating because I was so curious to hear if you were triggered again like the last time.
Corinne
Yeah, my house fell with illnesses and so I was the only.
Sabrina
Your house fell on top of a wicked witch?
Corinne
I was the only non sick party so I wasn't able to leave.
Sabrina
Well, next time you'll go next time.
Corinne
But this time this is two girls and one ghost. Two girls, one ghost.
Sabrina
And we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne. I'm Sabrina and this is an Encounters episode themed in honor of a movie that is coming out that I am so excited because I read the books the entire series. The Housemaid series by Frida McFadden. I highly recommend. If you are in a reading rut and haven't been able to like get back into it, any Frida McFadden book will. They're so easy to read.
Corinne
People post them constantly and they're so good. I feel like the Housemaid has been on my to read list forever.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
And now I really should read it. And I don't know how people will feel about the movie compared to the book, but at least the trailer of the movie looks so good.
Sabrina
I know. I'm really excited for it. I read the it's three and a half books because like she did a fan service like half book about the couple after the three came out. I read them all in, like, a week.
Corinne
Really?
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
Okay.
Sabrina
So I'm excited. And in honor of that, we thought, what better stories to share than horrifying nanny slash babysitting stories?
Corinne
Hell, yeah.
Sabrina
And it made me think about. I used to be an au pair. I was an au pair for an entire summer in Italy. I lived with an Italian family. Lived in their house.
Corinne
And what were their.
Sabrina
What was their deal?
Corinne
Yeah, what was their deal? How old were the kids?
Sabrina
I was. What did you have to do trapped in a room? It was more because I didn't get to travel abroad. So it was during the summer between junior and senior years of college, and it was just my way of spending a summer in Europe where I was. I had free stay lodging, and then I got to, like, hang out with a cool Italian family, like, right on the coast. It was on the Mediterranean Sea.
Corinne
How many days a week did you have to be?
Sabrina
I worked during the weeks, and then on the weekends I would travel.
Corinne
Oh, how old were the kids?
Sabrina
I think they were like 9 and 11.
Corinne
Oh, okay.
Sabrina
That's way easier. They did it more because they wanted their kids to learn English, so they brought an English speaking nanny or opener.
Corinne
So you were like, where should we go? What should we do?
Sabrina
And then me and the other au pairs, like, became besties. It was so much fun.
Corinne
So cool.
Sabrina
It was really fun. I did not experience any ghosts or hauntings or horrible people. So that's great.
Corinne
That's great.
Sabrina
But yeah, ghost stories, tales to tell.
Corinne
And Sabrina will start.
Sabrina
They're scary.
Corinne
So excited.
Sabrina
Okay, this is from our listener, Morgan, and there are a couple stories in here, but there's the first date. Horror, Demonic Toddler, and Shadow People.
Corinne
Demonic Toddler? Is that paranormal or is that just every day?
Sabrina
We'll find out. Hello, ladies. I love the podcast. I even let my daughter listen in on the Bigfoot episodes. She is a certified creepy kid and is obsessed with Bigfoot.
Corinne
I love that.
Sabrina
Anyway, I was listening to episode 66 today, and Corinne covered the Haunting in Connecticut. Well, this sparked some hilarious and terrifying memories because I, too, was traumatized by the story at a young age. In fact, my first date ever was to the movies. And can you guess what we saw?
Corinne
That's right.
Sabrina
Haunting in Connecticut.
Corinne
Oh, fu.
Sabrina
Mind you, I was in sixth grade.
Corinne
That's such a scary one. Oh, in sixth grade, I think I walked out of the Haunting of Emily Rose.
Sabrina
Terrifying.
Corinne
It took me two. Two tickets. Two movie tickets to finally actually sit through that whole movie.
Sabrina
I think the only movie I Ever saw as a child before I turned 18 in movie theaters. Was a scary movie and I left cause I was so scared.
Corinne
How are you here in this seat?
Sabrina
Well, and it's also funny because I was talking to my sister recently. My sister and my mom growing up were like the horror movie fanatics. They would watch them all the time. I was the scaredy cat. And now my sister and I have like swapped where she doesn't really like scary movies anymore. Like they're too scary for her.
Corinne
I also feel like there's a lot of stories I used to very easily be able to stomach and then having a kid has changed that. So I wonder if that is what happened to Lexi.
Sabrina
I think I just went through life shit that now nothing scares me.
Corinne
Yeah, we're just at me moving on.
Sabrina
My medicine cabinet would say something is wrong up here. Wires have been crossed. Okay, so Morgan says we walked our butts from my parents house to the movie theater, bought our tickets and Andy's combo, which is something like from her small town. It's a famous cowboy actor combo. I remember very little from that movie aside from being scared shitless for weeks. To this day, shower curtains freak me out. But my story is about a kid I babysat once. I used to work for an app that was essentially Uber for babysitters. I got a job close to my apartment and thought easy money. The job was for one child, three years old and it was only for four hours. I get to this beautiful older ranch style house and when I walk in, the first thing I see is so many crosses.
And they had this massive map that displayed where Christianity was all over the wall.
Corinne
Which I feel like if you're like 80 years old, I get it, granny. But if you're a young family with a bunch of young kids and your house is just like littered with crosses.
Sabrina
There'S something about it that is like a little unsettling.
Corinne
That's why also like they're kind of dangerous. Like a.
Sabrina
Right.
Corinne
The metal poles. Unless we're like really seems like a hazardous item.
Sabrina
Overall, this was an inviting home. But I did notice and feel like all the crosses and whatnot were a little over the top. Anyway, the mom gives me the DL on the kid. He has behavior problems, but does well when his siblings aren't around. Which is fine because that day it was just gonna be him and I. He was super sweet while mom was there and talked about how excited he was to play with me. Fast forward. We were playing a game. I don't remember exactly what happened, but Apparently I was not playing by his rules, which really upset him. So he stormed off to his room. I gave him a moment as his mom did warn me about these outbursts and said it's best to give him some space to calm down. So I go to check on him. But as I approach his room, I overhear he is having a whole ass conversation. It went like this. I don't want to hurt her. I don't care that you don't like her. I like her. Fine, I'll ask her. Then he turned around and saw me.
Corinne
Oh my freaking God.
Sabrina
And when he saw me, he got pissed and yelled at me to leave him alone. So I told him, okay, come find me. I'll be in the living room when you're ready. A few minutes go by and he comes out. I asked who he was talking to and he looked at me funny and asked when I was just in my room. I said yes, and he responded without a beat. Just my friend. His name is Lucifer. Are you friends with Lucifer?
Corinne
Somebody helped this child.
Sabrina
I said, nope, I am friends with Jesus though. And he calmly, and it sounds like.
Corinne
Your parents are too, based on the crosses everywhere.
Sabrina
And he calmly said. He said you would say that. My friend doesn't like you. He wants me to hurt you, but I don't want to hurt you. Want to go play a game in the basement at this point?
Corinne
Like, how confusing for this child too.
Sabrina
So convenient.
Corinne
It's like waffling between being really aggressive and then just being like. But like, we can be friends also.
Sabrina
Clearly this friend is a very intense.
Corinne
Oh my God. Yeah.
Sabrina
Wanting to control him. At this point, I didn't want to go anywhere. I wanted to leave, but I couldn't leave a three year old alone. So I say, why don't we play up here? He got frustrated and kept urging, let's go play in the basement. Luckily, his mom returned home not too long after this interaction. I didn't even know how or what to tell the mom. So I said everything was peachy and I left. I immediately took them off my contact list and never went back. Because that kid is by far the creepiest kid I have ever met.
Corinne
Okay, here's my one. Was this actually paranormal or was this like his imagination playing things out? Sure. Only because, like, we both grew up Catholic, going to ccd, whatever. Like my little small town church was quite boring. When I moved to la, I went with like a group of friends who were also like, well, they were very like Christian, so it wasn't necessarily like a Catholic church. But it was like a Christian church and one of those ones where like I thought, you know, like the band is going to be jamming. Like the things that you see early heard, like, oh, Hailey Bieber goes here, whatever.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
So like when we first. Well, this was pre Hailey Bieber being a beaver. But I went to one of these churches one time and it was the scariest thing that I've ever witnessed.
Sabrina
My.
Corinne
What they were saying, like the actual sermon was so disturbing, it was so dark, it was so full with hate. It was like about how you'll like never be able to ever truly be forgiven for your sins and how everyone is just evil. And it was like, wait, so where's.
Sabrina
The positive spin in this?
Corinne
Well, the point being, perhaps given how many crosses and just how devotely religious this family seemed to be, what if they went to a church with someone who preached really scary dark things and this three year old's sitting there and it's like, Lucifer, he's gonna attack you and he wants to hurt you. He's just absorbing this.
Sabrina
As a three year old, it could be that I also think as children, like the way you process good and bad. Like my one friend, I told you about her daughter whose invisible friend is named Curly, but whenever she does bad things, she goes, no, that was Curly.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
So it's kind of like this disconnecting from your negative thoughts.
Corinne
Right. But like, where do you get the name Lucifer? As a young kid, it was either probably church.
Sabrina
Yeah. Or Lucifer himself.
Corinne
Or Lucifer himself.
Sabrina
Okay, Morgan says. Finally, my own story about the house I grew up in. My home was a new build that my parents had custom built when we were little, so no one lived there before. And it wasn't built on some burial ground or anything like that. Well, I was always terrified to walk through my house alone at night. I always felt like there was someone or something watching me. My parents basically said I was crazy and made me go to counseling. And this is where I was told I was crazy. And it was all in my head. Flash forward to now and my dad lives in that house alone. And he has had to install cameras everywhere and has caught some pretty weird things. Orbs traveling through the house, sinks being turned on and off, lights being flickered. So now my dad finally believes me and I tease him that he's living there alone and it's his karma for not believing me when I was younger. It doesn't seem too negative. Just spirits hanging around, making their presence known to him now that they can't torture me anyway, if you Read this on the podcast, I will simply pass away. Thanks for reading. Love you, ladies and the podcast. See you on the other side, Morgan. Please use my name. It's pretty common.
Corinne
Well, Morgan, that. It sounds like you had one of the scariest babysitting experiences out there.
Sabrina
I'm also just so curious. There's two parts to me. Like, for Morgan's sake, I am glad that she has not gone back to that house. But for a curious mind's disappointment, I want to know what happened with this kid and Lucifer.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
And what's going on there.
Corinne
Well, it's also just, like, so hard to trust people. It's like, what if the last babysitter planted all of this in his mind too? Like, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt that it's like, coming from something else. Like an external force that's, like, human and not this demon coming after him because he's just three.
Sabrina
I guess we'll never know. Unless you're listening to the podcast and this is your child and you're like, oh, my God, my son. And Lucifer. Let me email.
Corinne
That's his imaginary friend. He still has him.
Sabrina
And he actually eats dinner with us every night. We have to hide all the knives.
Corinne
So scary. Okay, well, I have one called I Nanny two Creepy kids.
Sabrina
Great.
Corinne
Hi, ghouls. Baby Noah and Leia. I'm gonna stay anonymous so you can call me E. I'm from a small town near Boston that's basically been there since Christopher Columbus's crusty ass touched down. So you could say my town is a little bit spooky. I know. Now I'm really curious, like, where it's.
Sabrina
Also, we're gonna show up at your house.
Corinne
They're like, oh, this town's been around since forever. It's like, okay, well, that's a lot.
Sabrina
Of the Massachusetts towns.
Corinne
I haven't had too many experiences in my hometown. But what I'm going to tell you today is what happened to me just last week. Oh, I nanny three days a week for two lovely kiddos. For the story, we will refer to them as Baby L and Baby C. I've never thought of them as creepy kids, nor have I ever felt anything out of the ordinary in this home. But now I'm seriously second guessing this. The house was only built in the early 1910s, so a weird colonial man haunting us is sort of out of the picture here. But there is a graveyard across the street with some of the stones dating back to the late 1700s. So the other day, it was the first really warm day in Boston. So I decided to let the kids play outside after dinner. And inevitably, we found the ice cream truck. In true toddler fashion, it took them a solid 40 minutes to eat their popsicles. So we ended up heading back inside way later than normal. I brought them right up to the bath because they were disgustingly sticky.
Sabrina
Yeah. And I think 40 minutes. Melting popsicle. It's like, yeah.
Corinne
Like, how many times does that popsicle touch? Like, their shirt and the ground bumped into things around them.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
Yuck. Okay. And then I continued my usual nighttime routine. Getting out the pajamas, the diapers, laying out towels, and picking out outfits for the next day. While I was walking out of Baby L's bedroom and heading to Baby C's, I heard something from a closet. Baby L had three separate closets in her room, one of which, the one next to the rocking chair and covered partially by a nightstand I have never opened before. It sounded like a thump on the door or someone or something maybe helping finish close the door. I really wasn't sure which closet this noise came from, and I was kind of hoping that it didn't come from the oddly blocked one. I got chills, but I had to get the diaper in the pajamas from Baby C's bedroom and get the kids out of the bath. Don't worry, the bathroom's across from the hall. Both kids are old enough to sit by themselves, and I'm still able to see them and checking on them every second. I tried to forget about the noise, and I started getting the kids ready for bed. While I was dressing Baby C, a noise like a light switch came from the hallway, specifically near the bathroom. Baby L looks at me calmly. She looked back at the hall, turned back to me, and said, who turned on the bathroom light? It definitely sounded like someone had flipped on the light switch, but I said, no one's silly. I left the lights on, but I am not really sure that I did.
Sabrina
Oh my gosh.
Corinne
My ADHD ass very well could have kept the lights on or turned them off because I genuinely don't remember what I did when I was leaving the bathroom with the kids. But I was really freaked out. I felt really weird after, and I just let the kids play together and I silently prayed. I'm not religious either. I'm culturally Jewish, and I definitely am more spiritual than religious. But in this moment, I knew I had to bless the house, the kids, and bless myself in the name of Jesus Christ. After praying and saying that no spirits were allowed in the kids bedrooms and had to stay away from us. I didn't really feel anything the rest of the night. I was super spooked. So I did sit in baby Elle's room until she fell asleep. And then I really dragged out me having to go downstairs by myself because was there a spirit there with me? Maybe someone shaming me for keeping the kids up too late, telling me that I had to get them to bed. I really don't know. I really don't know. I'll keep you guys updated. See you on the other side.
Sabrina
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Sabrina
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Corinne
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Sabrina
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Well, it sounds like E does babysit these kids regularly. So I'm curious if anything more has happened. When was this sent?
Corinne
This was in April of this year. Okay, well, spring.
Sabrina
And we need some updates. I mean it doesn't seem negative. It just seems like it's messing with the lights. It's doing typical ghost things. Maybe it lives in the closet and it was.
Corinne
But the kids are aware. They're like, right.
Sabrina
Could that light get turned on? I'm also curious, like I'm in my imagination. Imagination. I'm picturing E with their back to the bathroom and the kid like E facing the kid, the kid looking towards the bathroom. And when they heard the light switch, the kid actually saw someone in the bathroom too.
Corinne
Oh, so who was like, who is that?
Sabrina
Turning on the light was like, I'm seeing someone.
Corinne
Right.
Sabrina
But I don't know who that is.
Corinne
And then the kid is like, oh, I don't want to scare my nanny, E because clearly E thinks doesn't understand what's going on. So I just. But also as a kid, you probably.
Sabrina
Are like, someone's turning the light on. Don't really think too much of it.
Corinne
Well, maybe I just have memories of like all the houses I lived in and how terrified I was. Like I knew when someone Wasn't supposed to be there. Supposed to be there. Yeah.
Sabrina
I don't know.
Corinne
Yikes.
Sabrina
Okay, wait. This is a little bit of a tangent, but I need to talk about it because it's all I've been thinking about for the past couple of weeks. How people think is so vastly different.
Corinne
Oh, yeah. Didn't we talk about this before?
Sabrina
I don't think we've had, like, a full conversation about it because I think in full sentences. I hear my own voice. There is a constant monologue happening inside my head, which is why I think.
Corinne
Sometimes some monologues, like. Yeah, like, sometimes I'll have multiple three conversations at once.
Sabrina
Yeah. But it's constant, which I think is why I spend a lot more. Like, I'm an internal thinker, and I don't like to. Like, I'm not a chatty, chatty cat. Yeah. I'm more internal. And then some people, like, truly just see visual. So when.
Corinne
That's what I don't understand. I don't understand how you can, like, see, speak words if the. The words aren't in your brain.
Sabrina
Aren't in your brain. No, I know. I guess there's, like, so many different subcategories of how people think, but then people, like, have combination. But my. Okay to figure it out with all of you.
Corinne
If you're.
Sabrina
If you want to play along, first of all, let us know how you think. But there's, like, the main categories are a thought. Like, you hear the voice of yourself. Thinker, visual thinker, feeling thinker. And then there was one other one where it's like, what was it?
Corinne
It's interesting because I feel like the feelings and the pictures and stuff will come into my mind, but then my voice analyzes it.
Sabrina
Okay, so here's a question.
Corinne
I'm seeing this or I'm now feeling this, and the voice is still talking.
Sabrina
If I tell you to visualize your mom, do you see her actual face in your mind's eye or do you see the idea of her face?
Corinne
I think it's kind of both.
Sabrina
So I see more of the idea. I'm like, I know your face, but I'm not seeing, like, a perfect.
Corinne
Yeah, like, I feel like when you said that. That's why I. The reason I said both was because it's like. Like I got, like, the face shape, and then I got her lips, but it wasn't, like, the full thing.
Sabrina
It was like.
Corinne
And then it was like. Then it kind of disappeared and, like, it's kind of blotchy and coming up and Then.
Sabrina
But the idea of it is there always, right? Yeah. But it just made me think about how. No, duh. We have such a hard time as, like, humans connecting with one another because if we think differently, it's gonna be harder to connect on that level.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
I don't know. I just thought that was wild.
Corinne
So anyway, how do you think it's so wild? It also makes me wonder, like, people who study the brain, like, is there a way to know on brain scans, Right. Does it show what someone thinks? Because there are certain portions of your brain that light up more significantly than others. And does that equate to, like, how someone says what they think?
Sabrina
Right. I don't know, because I always think about too, like, what's it called? The infj personality types and, like, your attachment styles and like, that. How that relates into, like, working on yourself and communication with people. I feel like there should be a study based on the way you think and how that impacts your communication style.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
If I was studying psychology, that would be my thesis. Now. My thesis would be like, ghosts are real, right? Or do they live in our head?
Corinne
That literally was mine senior year.
Sabrina
I know.
Corinne
I love that college. No, it was people's personality traits to paranormal experiences.
Sabrina
Oh.
Corinne
It was compared to, like, the big five personality traits. So my group researched a bunch of people.
Sabrina
I wasn't included, and I'm offended.
Corinne
Well, you weren't a psych major, so sorry. But my senior capstone, like, that's what we found, was that there was a perfect correlation between people who scored highest on openness in their big five personality traits. 100% of those people had paranormal experiences.
Sabrina
That makes sense. I feel like people are more empathetic.
Corinne
But now we have. Now we have math and statistics to back it up.
Sabrina
Hell, yeah. This is from our listener, fio. Hello, ladies. Hello.
Corinne
I, FIO take thee, Corinne and Sabrina.
Sabrina
To be haunted forevermore. I'm originally from Texas, but now from California. And you will find out in the story why. I started listening a few months ago while I was studying for law school to be a lawyer for ghosts. I made that up. But while studying, I would listen to you guys and get scared shitless. But it also helped me focus more. So my story starts in my childhood home in San Antonio, Texas. It was a pretty old house since it was passed down to my dad by his parents for us to live in. I'm not sure as to why our house had so many paranormal things happen in it, because it was almost never empty. Sometimes only one person would be left. But at least once a month, extended family members would come and hang out at our house. So, like, there were always people there. Maybe that's why the ghosts were there. They like your family. One of the most memorable experiences was one that I didn't encounter, but our au pair did.
Corinne
Ooh.
Sabrina
Her room was right next to mine on the second floor. And one day, she was home alone. I was at school, and my parents were at work. Our au pair decided to take a nap. And while she was laying there, she suddenly heard heavy footsteps in her room, like someone was walking toward her, slow and deliberate. And keep in mind, we had two tiny Pomeranians. But she swore this sounded like an adult human footsteps, not tiny little dog footsteps. So she was terrified, and she stayed frozen in bed. Another time, my uncle was napping on the couch when suddenly the couch started shaking violently. He thought it was an earthquake, but when he looked around, nothing else was moving. Just the couch.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
So he just closed his eyes and waited for it to stop. Like, what else can you do? At that point, I would get off the couch.
Corinne
As someone who experienced that in my family experienced it in my childhood home. That's true. You just wait for it to end.
Sabrina
Because it probably does happen pretty quickly. By the time you're, like, processing that, nothing else is vibrating and shaking.
Corinne
Sometimes it's many, many minutes. That's crazy. But at least for ours, it wasn't like, you know, you're not being, like, rocked and, like, back and forth.
Sabrina
It's just, like, shaking like an earthquake, but just on your bed.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
My mom had her own creepy moment, too. One morning, she was home alone. The rest of us had already left. The au pair had the day off, and she swore she heard me calling her from my room, like, mom, please come here. Multiple times, she said. It was like I was pleading for her to come to my room, but she knew that I wasn't there, so she didn't even come to check. She just stayed put and pretended she didn't hear anything, which we all think was a good call.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Now, about eight years ago, we renovated the house since it was pretty old and was passed down from generations, and stuff was pretty outdated. So before construction, it was this, like.
Corinne
Old, creaky kind of place.
Sabrina
But now it's Easter Sunday, so no workers are around, and we had been out for most of the weekend. Like, truly, we hadn't stepped foot in the house for more than three days. But then we go back to the house to check on things, and we randomly find drops of blood on the floor.
Corinne
Excuse me.
Sabrina
And not, like, old stains. This was, like, still wet drops of blood. Literally no one had been in the house. And we were all kind of like, what?
Corinne
That is so creepy. Also, I'd be, like, a little nervous. There was an injured animal or an.
Sabrina
Intruder, like, someone who was on the construction crew who, like, knew the family wasn't going to be in town. Yeah, like, decided to spend the weekend there.
Corinne
I don't know.
Sabrina
But they never found the source of it. Now, this encounter was the most memorable, for it happened to me directly. This was during finals week. I was home with only our au pair, who was already asleep because my parents were out of town. I was filming myself studying because, you know, accountability or whatever. And I literally filmed myself locking the door, both the knob and the deadbolt. And then 20 minutes into the video, the door just swings open by itself. No one was there. And the deadbolt can only be unlocked from the inside. So I immediately grabbed my stuff and went straight to my au pair's room. I was done. There were so many other little things, too. Like my baby cousin talking to her friend in quotes who didn't exist. No one was there, but she said her friend was from Jacksonville, which is 16 hours away. And my baby cousin was only three. Like, she'd never been to Jacksonville before. Our dogs would bark at empty corners, doors would slam and lock by themselves, toilets flushed randomly, faucets turned on by themselves. And eventually it got to a point we were like, we should probably move. And we did. It's been three years since we moved states, and we haven't felt anything weird. No noises, no creepy feelings, no ghosty nonsense. Just peace. Honestly, I hope it stays that way from fio.
Corinne
Dang. Honestly, what a lovely end. Which is that, like, all those hauntings are over, and you just get to live with the stories of them from the past, share them, and be like, yeah, I experienced some creepy things my au pair did. I was a creepy kid.
Sabrina
Everyone in the family experienced them. But it does feel like this house just has so much loving family energy, especially the, like, while Theo's studying the door being opened. It just feels like a family. It just feels like a family member having no boundaries.
Corinne
Although, like, I keep thinking, because this happened to my mom a lot, too, where she would hear me and my brother calling for her, and then she'd go check, and we would be fast asleep.
Sabrina
Right. But, like, could that be residual though?
Corinne
It may be, but in this case, it was happening when no one was home. Yeah. It wasn't like she was waking up from slumber and like maybe had imagined it or whatever. This was active, awake alert. Fia wasn't home.
Sabrina
Maybe it's a ghost kid who wants mom's attention.
Corinne
Mommy.
Sabrina
Well, also this story made me wonder because so my family also had au pairs growing up. And even the story, like when my story of dreaming of my sister being possessed and my dad like actually seeing my sister get possessed, like overlapping, we had an au pair in the room across the hall from my sister at that time.
Corinne
Oh, shit.
Sabrina
So I'm like, how many ghost stories do the au pairs we had growing.
Corinne
Up are there, right.
Sabrina
That we don't know.
Corinne
A pairs are such. It's such an interesting concept, like to just have someone live in your house with you. Like, it's like another family member.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
To just hire someone to be your family. Just another parent.
Sabrina
But it's kind of fun because like I would definitely hire an au pair at like when my kids were my kids. The kids I have, when I have kids and they're a little bit older, like ages 4 to 6, like I think it'd be fun to have an au pair to one help them like learn a different culture and like experience something. And then I just think it's kind of fun. Yeah, well, you lived it and I had one and I was. Yeah. I feel like everywhere you look right now, everyone is talking about weight loss and weight loss medications. It is the buzz of everyone. But how do you know if it's right for you and how do you.
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Corinne
Okay, I have one called My Whole Life is a Ghost Story. Creepy kids. And after listening to y', all, My peaceful house is now haunted.
Sabrina
Sorry. Or you're welcome.
Corinne
I don't know.
Sabrina
Some of you sickos want that.
Corinne
Some of you sickos. Okay. Hello, beautiful ladies. Thank you for taking your time to read this and hopefully share it on the tube. This will be a long one because I feel like my whole life has been a big ghost story. So my dad is the definition of a supernatural enthusiast. At a young age, he played around with Ouija boards and other things I'm sure we don't really know about. But his ghost stories have kept me up at night for sure. I blame him for all of my experiences that I've had because I'm convinced that I have something that follows me now. Or maybe I'm just sensitive to it all. But it is funnier to blame him for it. The earliest event that I can remember happened when I was four years old. We moved into a bread brick house and we had many a bread brick house. Is that what I said? A bread brick?
Sabrina
Mm. Instead of the house made out of candy, it's the house made out of bread.
Corinne
The mold would be horrible.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
Four years old, we moved into a brick red house. We had many experiences there. From waking up to all of the kitchen cabinets being opened.
Jonathan Van Ness
Wow.
Corinne
All very paranormal activity. One to all my Barbies on my floor without their heads.
Sabrina
That's horrifying.
Corinne
Oh, I thought like, this triggered a memory for you.
Sabrina
No, that's just the most terrifying. Without their heads.
Corinne
Beheading a collection of Barbies.
Sabrina
When you said Barbies on the floor, my first thought was like, oh, all their heads are like turned around, but.
Corinne
Literally without their heads plopped off of their bodies, decapitated. I blamed my brother, but in reality I knew he didn't do it because he wasn't that type of kid and he was also only two years old. My Barbies heads were not really that easy to take off.
Sabrina
No.
Corinne
The weirdest thing to happen to me was when my dad had a party at our house and us kids knew that we weren't allowed to be around the adults, so we were always told to go stay up in our rooms. But for some reason this night that rule felt a little foggy. I walked into the living room to a bunch of adults drunk and dancing when my dad's cousin grabbed my arm aggressively and told me in a deeper voice than normal, you need to get out of my house. And it's not even his house, right? I pulled my arm back and I ran to my room. I got in bed with my brother and then the next day my dad asked me where I got this bruise on my arm and I told him what happened as an adult. We talked about this event and he said that he called his cousin and asked her about it that day. And my dad was very protective over me. She said she never even saw me that night.
Sabrina
Why does this remind me of the scene in Halloweentown where all like the parents are under the spell? Or is it hocus pocus, hocus pocus.
Corinne
When they're like in the town hall.
Sabrina
And they're all under a spell?
Corinne
Yeah, they're all drunk and dancing. Woo hoo.
Sabrina
Which kind of under a spell.
Corinne
A drunken spell, spirit spell. Another day, all of our doors locked while we were playing outside. My dad said that he heard someone whisper in his ear often when no one would be there. And my brother cried saying that he saw a tall man with a top hat in the bathroom while he was peeing. He didn't go into the bathroom alone after that experience.
Sabrina
No, I wouldn't either.
Corinne
The house almost caught fire once because someone put a piece of paper in the heater that blew out onto the carpet. And my dad swore that it was us. But me and my brother, to this day neither of us put the paper.
Sabrina
That reminds me of the Hinsdale house.
Corinne
Yeah, the Hinsdale house is really scary.
Sabrina
It is.
Corinne
I feel like when we were talking about it, it was like creepy and scary, but I just feel like it keeps coming.
Sabrina
Especially how many people have gotten in a car accident while listening. Even though we warned you not to drive while listening.
Corinne
Yeah, but People don't want to listen in their house either because they don't want their house to be haunted.
Sabrina
Yeah, but the Hinsdale house haunting themselves had so many car problems.
Corinne
That was why. That's true.
Sabrina
Definitely don't listen in the car.
Corinne
Anyway, weird stuff happened often. I don't really recall why we moved, but we did not stay in that house very long. Second house we moved into. And still to this day, my brother lives in. My dad had built a room for me at this house because I was the only girl. So I deserve my own room. And I loved it. It was pretty and it was pink and it was floral. And I was convinced that something else was in the room with me. I was six years old at this time, and I never went to sleep when I should. I would listen to music until like midnight most nights until I fell asleep with my Walkman. Almost every night I was woken between 1 and 3am to knocking on my wall.
Sabrina
Don't like that.
Corinne
Most nights I would just be brave about it. And on the nights that I couldn't be, I would just run into my dad's room. I, for some reason, was convinced that it was the devil himself knocking.
Sabrina
Which, like, being convinced of that at that age, like, yes, you were saying, you know, like, we're taught heaven, hell, especially if you grew up in the church and stuff, but being convinced it's the devil is a very, very weird thought to have.
Corinne
Right? They're right. I don't remember this, but according to my dad, this is what I told him. He told me it was just squirrels in the walls.
I knew it wasn't true because the knocking was like a tune, not something done by an animal. Also, if I acknowledged it, it was like it knew it had my attention and it carried on with the tune. And it took a lot to creep me out at this point. My first horror movie was the Exorcist, and I was like five when I watched it.
Sabrina
Okay.
Corinne
But when something pulled my covers off aggressively many nights, by the way, I basically had my breaking point. I ended up not sleeping.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
So young also to be like, oh. I was hardened by the time I was 6 because I watched the Exorcist when I was fucking Jesus. I ended up not sleeping in that room after that. And honestly, I tried to stay in my grandmother's house as well, much as I could.
Sabrina
Also like, the Hinsdale house, right?
Corinne
It was like all the kids eventually, like, went to grandma. Is this from a Hinsdale?
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
Like, let me look at. Okay, well, last name doesn't say Hinsdale, but I don't know. I would feel bad leaving my family behind, but it seemed like this was the only way to get it from messing with me. To this day. My brother says that he hears knocking still. Odd things happen often in that house. And I still get the creeps when I walk in there. My grandmother's house also had a spirit that walked in front of her windows every night at 10:30pm I was not scared because it felt like it was a nice spirit. But everyone knew about it, even my friends. And they would come and watch it.
Sabrina
And like wave hello.
Corinne
I mean, if it's 10:30, everyone want to go see the ghost.
Sabrina
It's like a fireworks show. It's the ghost show.
Corinne
Drive by grandma's house. Honestly, I felt kind of sad about it because I felt like they were lost and they needed to cross over. But let's skip to when I moved out on my own as an adult because this really could get long if I just kept going on about about my childhood. At this time, I now have a child that at birth I knew would be very special. I know every mom says that, but I really in my soul felt like she was with her as a baby. She would wave at things that were not there. She would do all this weird kind of baby stuff but like to creep you out. And when she started talking, I knew that there was more. My grandmother passed away when my daughter was just 1 years old. And she never really got to see her. She saw her as an infant in the hospital, but really not much after that. We were at my mother's house and my mother's mom had already passed away. And my daughter looked at my mom and said, grandma, who is that in the corner looking at me? My mom was like, who? My daughter said, I don't know. But she won't stop looking at me. My mother just ignored it, thinking, okay, she's just a kid. I'm going to move on. But the next day, my mom was putting up pictures on the counter of my grandmother, her mom, and my daughter was in her lap. She said, grandma, that's the woman that sits in the corner all the time.
Sabrina
I like that.
Corinne
My mother smiled and said that it was her mother and that she must be there to watch over us.
Sabrina
That's sweet.
Corinne
She had many experiences like this. She hears and sees people all the time. She went to Indiana for my mom's last wish, to spend time with her family, who has now passed. She was dying of ovarian stage four cancer. I'M sorry. So sorry. We went to a petting zoo that had this old Victorian kids play house. It was super cool looking. We took my daughter over to go look at these houses. She refused to go near one of them and started acting really, really scared. I asked her what was wrong and she told mommy, there's a little girl my size with no eyes in there and she is so sad but scary looking.
Sabrina
See, this is the whole this goes back to like the Black Eyed kids theory. And there are the terrifying like cryptid esque demonic type of Black Eyed Kids. But there is also many stories of kids that have black eyes and it's like the sadness. Like some people say that their spirits appear with either no eyes or dark eyes because like their innocence and souls were ripped away. So.
Corinne
Right. They saw too much.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
Oh man. At this point, I'm used to my daughter saying stuff like this. So I told her, oh well, it's okay. We don't have to look at this one. And then we moved on. Many times as my daughter grew up, she told me, mom, please tell them to stop arguing or why are they talking so loud? And this only happened when we were in her room. Babysitters have told me that she has done really odd things, things that creeped them out and they refused to babysit her anymore.
Sabrina
Which is wild cause that's just babysitters who told me her things.
Corinne
Mean, like how many? Countless.
Sabrina
Like our first listener.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Who literally never came back. Yeah. Goodbye.
Corinne
After my mother's passing, she had visited her a few times too. And I feel such relief knowing that my daughter's protected. I do look forward to my daughter telling me more of her stories about my grandmother and how she enjoys these visits from her. These visits from grandma were peaceful, unlike the others because even as a teenager, my daughter still struggles. She has shadows following her, chasing her. She's also cursed with empathy, which has caused her to be a deeply depressed child at a young age.
Sabrina
Well, this goes back to your study in college of the openness and empathy paranormal encounters.
Corinne
Yes. Really what she needs is a spiritual guidance counselor. But Texas does not have anything like that.
Sabrina
I am sure that there are many of our listeners who are would be that.
Corinne
Yeah. Skipping a few years after. I was dating this guy, now happily married to him, and he stayed at my apartment that night. He woke up extremely spooked and went home. I never understood what happened. He didn't stay the night much afterwards. And I just chalked it up to maybe him being anxious. I'm a home buddy, but Later I found out that he had been woken up by my closet door opening. And when he looked there was something that flew ran out of the closet and through the wall.
Sabrina
Would you do a haunted boyfriends episode?
Corinne
Right?
Sabrina
Or haunted like dates.
Corinne
And I love how he was just like, well I'm just not gonna come over much or spend the night. But like I won't tell but didn't.
Sabrina
Want to say why.
Corinne
Yeah, yeah. I was really used to weird stuff happening. But bless his heart, he did not know what he had coming dating me. We later moved into a house and this house had so much stuff happen. We felt like we were being chased when leaving the house all the time. Laundry baskets would dump over items move on their own. Shadows everywhere. Bad night terrors with my kids, Dogs acting weird things, missing. Seeing apparitions out of the corner of your eye, feeling like someone's watching you. Mostly while you're in the shower. Ugh, great. And we had to cleanse so many times, but nothing ever worked to change anything. So we ended up buying a house while renting. After living there for four years, we were so happy to leave.
Sabrina
I can only imagine.
Corinne
So now we're in this new house. It feels peaceful. It is a house on a little piece of land with a guest house next to it. The guest house is weird. When we first moved in, I had it inspected. It was a cute little one bedroom, one bathroom house and apparently was built for the old owner's father who was sick. While walking into the guest house, we noticed the doors had oil marks on them. I then noticed that they were crosses. Oh. I said great, this house has been blessed and we should be fine. But minutes later, the bedroom door closed by itself. I was startled to say the least, being the only person there and I quickly left. To this day, I don't really feel welcome whenever I go in the guest house. My mother in law lives there now and she tells us that she hears stuff all the time. So we chalk it up to being the goats that live next door. I mean, have you heard them when they scream? They sound like women. Super creepy. A few months ago is when you talked about the doll. And that very night my vanity mirror slammed open. What doll? Probably ptd.
Sabrina
Oh.
Corinne
Cause that one's the haunted one. So I tried to pay no attention to it. But then the next week my husband's nebulizer machine just turned on. No way possible to do that without switching the on and off button. So I've been having a hard time going back to sleep after that. But we recently took in 18 month old twins and man, are they giving us a run for our money. The girl twin talks to someone all the time and waves at whatever this is. I wanna believe that it's my mother who loved babies. Oh, we also recorded some orbs flying by. My mother's ashes are on our fireplace and this is where the orbs were.
Sabrina
Caught and the like kind of like happy waving. Sounds like it's a positive experience.
Corinne
Right. So we're gonna say that my mom is haunting us. She was an amazing person and left away too soon at the age of 45. I'm sorry. Take care and I hope you all come back to Texas. See you on the other side, ladies. Heather.
Sabrina
Well, yeah, I mean it does sound like because Heather started out this email saying she blames her dad and that also since listening to our podcast, there are more hauntings.
Corinne
Heather was a creepy kid. It sounds like Heather has a creepy.
Sabrina
Kid and now creepy twins and now.
Corinne
Took in creepy kids.
Sabrina
Just sounds like ghosts are going to be a part of your life. I do hope that Heather's daughter is able to find some type of, yeah, spiritual mentor of some kind because it can't. I can only imagine how isolating that must be.
Corinne
Right. Yeah. Well, and too it's like one thing to be like, yeah, my daughter sees stuff and experiences paranormal and our house is haunted. It's another thing to have it like so confirmed to the extreme where like you have babysitters that are refusing to ever come back. Just like that's kind of a hard life to like not have.
Sabrina
Of course your mental health.
Corinne
Right. Where you're like, oh, is this, this is obviously not like the norm.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
But like is this really as bad as it sad seems to them?
Sabrina
Give her a big hug.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
Okay. I have another one. This is from Mary and it's called the Ghost kid that lives at my work. Hi ghostesses. My name is Mary. She, her and I have had plenty of paranormal activity that has happened around me all of my life. I will start with most recent events as the rest spans 30 plus years. I'm a nanny and I work at a private residence. This family is exceptionally normal. They don't believe in the paranormal or if they do, they do not talk about it. But I however, am a believer. I'm also very scientifically minded. So I will run through every explanation that might explain a noise or an event until I have zero other explanations for things that have happened. So I'm going to give you a sense of the house. It has three levels plus an attic. The basement is a demi basement, so only part of it is underground. Everyone enters the house through the back garage door and all other doors are kept locked at all times. Even this back garage door is locked unless we're outside. The playroom, kitchen, dining room and a couple other rooms are on the main floor. Upstairs has a couple bathrooms and all the bedrooms. And then the demi basin has the entrance and garage plus storage. So I started working for this current family almost five years ago and I started noticing that toys that required movement would randomly go off when I was the only one around. Every other adult would be at work and every kid would be at school or asleep. Just me on the main level of the house. So I jokingly started saying that there was a ghost kid because it would happen somewhat regularly. And at first I figured the batteries were running out. And as I'm typing this story, a toy just sounded off, which hasn't happened in months, so they must know I'm talking about them. But one night I was working late while one boss was out of town. It was just after five and it was winter, so it was already very dark outside. I was helping the at the time 3 year old after she went to the bathroom. And the five year old was playing with the one year old in the playroom. There used to be a gate so the baby couldn't get out. So the two older kids had a habit of climbing over the couch to get out. And I hear footsteps. So I assumed that the five year old was running out to see what we were up to. And out of the corner of my eye I see a little body run by to the corner of the kitchen. It had long light brown hair flowing behind it. And it's important to note that the 5 year old has dark brown hair. But the only problem was that I could still hear the five year old dancing around with the baby in the playroom.
Corinne
Oh.
Sabrina
So I shakily call out the eldest's name and the three year old looks at me and says she's in the playroom. So I got up, walked the five steps to the kitchen and sure enough, no one was there. So I witnessed my first ghost. And I was right. There is definitely a ghost kid who lives in this house and just wants to play.
Corinne
Well, I'm glad that there are other kids there too. So that like, you know, yeah, they have company, they do get to play with other kids.
Sabrina
One time the baby, who's now older but was a baby at the time, was napping and my boss was out with the Two other kids. I was sitting on the couch, head back, eyes closed, when I heard in my ear, clear as day, wake him up. In my left ear. My head shot up, and of course, I freaked out because no one was around. And then Mary doesn't tell us if they went to go wake up the baby.
Corinne
Oh, my God.
Sabrina
But I've heard several other sounds that make me think that there's more than one ghost here. I'll save those if you'd like to hear about them later. Yes, we want to hear about them. I love the podcast. Keep up the good spooks. Let me know if you'd like to hear more, and I'll send others. Mary, we absolutely want to hear more. Let's see. Does Mary. Has Mary sent another?
Corinne
Well, we want more, but we want more.
Sabrina
We want to hear everything.
Corinne
You don't have to ask.
Sabrina
No, but also 100% Mary. There are multiple spirits. A spirit saying, wake him up. That's not the kid. Also, why. Why was it so important to wake him up just then?
Corinne
I don't know.
Sabrina
So this is why I want to film cries.
Corinne
I feel like we would have to wake him up like that. Would I be so scared? It's like, is there a tree that's going to come through the roof? Are they? And he stopped breathing for too long. So scary.
Sabrina
That reminds me the wake him up where the tree's gonna go through the window. That reminds me of the episode where I told the Ouija board Reddit stories and the one where they talked to the aunt, and the aunt was like, move the crib. And they moved it, and not two days later did a storm happen and a tree fall exactly where the crib had been.
Corinne
So terrifying. That was, like, the first thing we did when we moved. We removed two of the, like, giant oak trees that were right on Noah's room.
Sabrina
Yeah, of course. Not worth taking any chance.
Corinne
No, no, no, no, no.
Sabrina
Terrifying.
Corinne
Wow. Kids are creepy.
Sabrina
Did you. Have you ever had any creepy babysitting stories?
Corinne
No, I just hated babysitting. I almost never did it.
Sabrina
Why?
Corinne
Because it was scary. Oh, you were scared being in someone else's house? I was scared of my own house.
Sabrina
That's true.
Corinne
I was definitely gonna be scared of other people's houses. The only time, like, I would go across to one of my neighbor's house that was, like, basically directly across from our house, and they had three younger kids, and I was almost like a mother's helper sometimes. So it would be like, okay, she needs to, like, shower and do some Stuff I can come over for two hours and entertain kids in the backyard.
Sabrina
Yeah.
Corinne
I only did one actual nighttime babysitting gig in my same neighborhood. It was like four houses down and I was terrified. I basically like melted into the couch after the kids were asleep and like called my mom on the phone and like just had the TV on and talked to my mom and waited until no, the parents got home. I couldn't do it. I wasn't sad. I wasn't brave enough.
Sabrina
I babysat all the time. I watched like my brother a ton too. And like my brother and his best friend and like the best friend's younger sister would always be over. And I remember in our Branchburg house babysitting and playing in the basement and the amount of times we would like all run out of the basement because something spooky would happen.
Corinne
Yeah, it's too scary.
Sabrina
See, I'd rather babysit in someone else's house than my own haunted house.
Corinne
Oh God. I think I could be a nanny. I don't think I could be a babysitter. Cause nannies are like, they're there during the day when parents are at work. Babysitters are like, it's nighttime, you're putting kids to bed, you're waiting for date night.
Sabrina
Yeah, yeah.
Corinne
That's like the difference. And I, I couldn't, I'm a daytime daylight.
Sabrina
So you could probably be an au pair too because au pair is similar thing. You mostly work during the day.
Corinne
I couldn't be an au pair because I couldn't. I couldn't like check out and have to. I wouldn't be able to like appropriately separate myself from working hours with kids. Because you live in it. Yeah. Like if they want to do something and I already had plans, I'd be like, sorry, shitlock.
Sabrina
It would be awful if you didn't get along with your host family. Yeah, I remember in my town. But I always wanted to make like a little like sitcom about it because every family in the town that I was au pair in, in Italy it's called Arezano. Like most of the families would have au pairs over the summer and like we'd have these events where the parents would like gossip about the au pairs and the au pairs would all gossip about like our families and. But then there were some au pairs that were year round au pairs and they thought they were better than like the summer au pairs and there was so much drama.
Corinne
Well, I could see because they were like, we're permanent and you guys are just coming.
Sabrina
I would argue some of those permanent were I was like, I would not trust you with my children.
Corinne
Oh, yeah.
Sabrina
And the movie Housemaid, which this episode is not sponsored by at all, by the way.
Corinne
We're just excited that it's coming out.
Sabrina
That it's coming out. Not all nanny situations end up like that. But if you have creepy babysitting au pair nanny stories, whether you were the nanny or your nanny was creepy or your nanny left screaming and never came back, please email them to us at 2girls1ghost.podcastmail.com we want to hear all of your stories, even outside of the nannies, outside of babysitting, anything creepy, anything paranormal, anything cryptid, alien, bigfoot, whatever it may be, please email it to us. Patreon.
Corinne
Yeah.
Sabrina
All right, I got this. Corinne's going to sleep. Okay.
Corinne
I am. I, like, literally was like, I need to make tea to like get through the next episode that we have. Church part I need a shot of.
Sabrina
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Corinne
We love you do. We will see you on the other side.
Sabrina
Very spooky.
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Released: December 11, 2025
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
On this chilling Encounters episode, Corinne and Sabrina dive into real-life nanny and babysitter paranormal stories submitted by listeners. Inspired by the release of the “Housemaid” movie adaptation (based on Frida McFadden’s thriller series), they focus on the creepy, unnerving, and sometimes outright terrifying experiences encountered while caring for children—whether as nannies, babysitters, or au pairs. The hosts reflect on why children and the roles of caregiver seem to attract or sense the supernatural and consider the implications for both the families and their caretakers.
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On imaginary friends/evil presences:
“Are you friends with Lucifer?” – Demonic Toddler, via Morgan [11:11]
On skepticism and sensitivity:
“There was a perfect correlation between people who scored highest on openness... 100% of those people had paranormal experiences.” – Corinne [27:13]
On caretaking and vulnerability:
“Babysitters have told me that she has done really odd things… and they refused to babysit her anymore.” – Heather [45:05]
On spiritual support for sensitive kids:
“Really what she needs is a spiritual guidance counselor. But Texas does not have anything like that.” – Heather [45:51]
For more listener tales and personal encounters with the supernatural, subscribe to Two Girls One Ghost, and consider submitting your own story for a chance to be featured in future episodes!