Encounters x313 - College Hauntings

Summary

Two Girls One Ghost: Encounters x313 – College Hauntings

Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
Release Date: January 8, 2026
Theme: Listener-submitted ghost stories centered on haunted college campuses and dorm experiences

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Episode Overview

Kicking off the new year, Corinne and Sabrina dive into a series of supernatural tales set in and around college campuses. Leaning into nostalgia and the weird liminality of college life, the hosts read and react to listener-submitted encounters ranging from playful hauntings to chilling sightings, all with their signature warmth, humor, and curiosity. Alongside the stories, they reminisce about their own college experiences, Greek life, and what makes campus hauntings particularly potent.

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Key Discussion Points & Story Highlights

1. Banter, New Year Reflections, and Setting the Scene

• [02:02] Sabrina and Corinne reflect on New Year's resolutions (or their lack thereof), embracing "the slow life," and bond over a shared desire to shed adult pressures in favor of storytelling and community.
  • Quote: "I resolve whenever. Time to resolve throughout the year." – Corinne [02:04]
  • Quote: "Let's all just sit and tell ghost stories. I think that should be the new goal in life." – Corinne [03:52]
• The episode introduces its theme: "Encounters from college. Ooh, Good university." [04:20]

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2. Story #1: "Caleb’s Shadow" by Bri

• [05:58] Bri recounts a surreal summer as an RA in a downtown Chicago dorm rumored to be haunted.
• During a group sleepover, Bri and Sarah experience playful but unnerving antics—blanket tugs, cold drafts, and an encounter with a shadowy figure mimicking their friend Caleb’s unique silhouette. Upon checking, Caleb had never left his bedroom.
  • Quote: "I saw Caleb's silhouette, a complete shadow, quickly walking forward out of the kitchen and then backstep back in..." – Bri (read by Sabrina) [07:13]
• Both witnesses confirm the sighting, moving to stay with friends for safety.
• Corinne and Sabrina riff on possible explanations—astral projection, familial attachments, and their favorite: ghostly pranksters.
• Sabrina muses: "What if it was like the shadow is a spirit attached to Caleb, like a family member?" [09:29]

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3. Story #2: "Haunted Sorority House Alpha Phi" by Michaela

• [11:42] Michaela, sharing sorority memories, details how she and her roommate discovered mysterious porcelain dolls in a closet—a harbinger of bizarre hauntings to come.
• Incidents include books flying off shelves during rush, unexplained footsteps and doors, but escalates when Michaela sees a "tall man in a hat under Lauren’s lofted bed." Frozen by fear, she later learns Lauren has seen the same man when alone.
  • Quote: "Is it the man under my bed?" – Lauren (via Michaela) [16:18]
  • Lauren’s own attempt to fight the apparition involved swinging a hair straightener under the bed—only to hit nothing.
• Sabrina links their descriptions to notorious true crime figures, cranking up the chill factor.
  • Quote: "Not to immediately go to murderers, but, like, Ed Kemper, Ted Bundy..." – Sabrina [16:37]
• Corinne and Sabrina suspect a connection to the porcelain dolls and ponder whether the haunting is rooted in student activities or brought in from outside.

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4. Story #3: "Haunted Dorm Room and Cow Ghost" by Ben

• [21:37] Ben, self-proclaimed energy-sensitive student at North Dakota State University, shares escalating incidents:
  • Low male voices in his room when alone.
  • His lanyard unhooking and "flying across the room" with no explanation.
  • On a campus ghost tour, learning his dorm had a history of student suicides.
• Ben’s friend recounts seeing the apparition of the building’s namesake, angry her married name was used instead of her maiden name.
• A lighter legend: The phantom "Butter Cow," whose spectral mooing haunts the south end of campus.
  • Quote: "It is said that students who walk around on the south end of campus at night may hear mooing and sometimes a spectral cow appears..." – Ben (read by Sabrina) [26:16]
• Corinne is obsessed: "I'm obsessed with this cow and this legend for the school. What a cool, unique story." [26:35]

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5. Story #4: "Growing Up in a Haunted College Dorm" by Maisie

• [28:50] Maisie shares a rare perspective—growing up in a college dorm at Arizona Western College, where her parents coached sports and acted as resident heads.
• Vivid memories include:
  • Seeing two ghostly men, one in a straw hat and overalls, speaking to her as a child—later corroborated by her grandmother’s journals.
  • Recurring encounters with the short, brown-haired ghost under her bed, who once startled her awake by yelling.
    • Quote: "He popped up from underneath and yelled. Startled me awake. And then he vanished." – Maisie (read by Corinne) [33:36]
  • A dorm room with oppressive, "suffocating" energy that everyone avoided.
• Maisie reflects on the possibility of being protected by benevolent spirits, family rituals, and the power of land and ancestral memory.

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6. Story #5: "Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Dorm Hauntings" by Melissa

• [41:08] Melissa, inspired by classic horror tales, describes her time at an old Pennsylvania campus with buildings dating back to the 18th century.
• Friends see Revolutionary War-era apparitions out their windows; Melissa experiences audio-visual anomalies (e.g., footsteps "in the air above my head"), ghostly presences, and relics of the dorm's past as a seminary.
• A protective herbal sachet from her Romani grandmother seems to antagonize a particular spirit—telepathically defended with, "I have never done anything to you." [48:51]
  • Quote: "It radiated insult. ...Someone clearly saying, 'I have never done anything to you.' And then it was gone." – Melissa (read by Sabrina) [48:51]
• Corinne and Sabrina embark on a live "research hunt" to identify the campus, eventually settling on Moravian University in Bethlehem, PA.
• The segment is layered with campus nostalgia, deep-dive detective work, and personal connections.

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7. Personal Reflections & Tangents

• The hosts reminisce about their own college lives, sorority traditions, student pranks, and the aesthetics of various campuses.
• Discussion of "house mothers" in sororities [18:04], the importance of campus grass quality (!), and amusing stories from their college days.
• Listeners are enthusiastically invited to continue submitting stories and to join Patreon/book club events.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Resolutions:
  "I don't do those. ...I resolve whenever. Time to resolve throughout the year." – Corinne [02:04]

• On Paranormal Playfulness:
  "It's terrifying in the sense that you don't want this to happen to you, but it's also playful and I'm curious about this entity." – Corinne [09:10]

• On Shared Ghost Experiences:
  "Is it the man under my bed?" – Lauren (via Michaela), shocking confirmation for both roommates. [16:18]

• On Campus Urban Legends:
  "It is said that students who walk around on the south end of campus at night may hear mooing and sometimes a spectral cow appears..." – Ben (read by Sabrina) [26:16]

• On Childhood Hauntings:
  "He popped up from underneath and yelled. Startled me awake. And then he vanished." – Maisie (read by Corinne) [33:36]

• On Ghostly Defensiveness:
  "Someone clearly saying, 'I have never done anything to you.' And then it was gone." – Melissa (read by Sabrina) [48:51]

• On the Enduring Appeal of Ghost Stories:
  "Let's all just sit and tell ghost stories. I think that should be the new goal in life." – Corinne [03:52]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:02] – [04:27]: New Year musings, slow living, episode theme introduction
• [05:58] – [09:10]: Story: "Caleb's Shadow" by Bri
• [11:42] – [17:56]: Story: "Haunted Sorority House Alpha Phi" by Michaela
• [21:37] – [26:35]: Story: "Haunted Dorm Room and Cow Ghost" by Ben
• [28:50] – [36:44]: Story: "Growing Up in a Haunted College Dorm" by Maisie
• [41:08] – [52:16]: Story: "Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Dorm Hauntings" by Melissa
• Throughout: Hosts' commentary, college tales, detective work on story settings

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Tone & Style

• Warm, hilarious, and a little witchy.
  The hosts keep it conversational and light, even amid genuinely creepy tales, often poking fun at themselves and riffing off listeners’ stories with both skepticism and genuine wonder.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a treasure trove of haunted college campus stories—some playful, some unsettling, all relayed with the familiar, friendly banter that has made Two Girls One Ghost "the most haunted podcast in America." If you’ve ever wondered what walks the halls of empty dorms at night, this episode is for you—just don’t be surprised if you start watching the shadows beneath your bed a little more closely.

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"See you on the other side." 👻

Transcript

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

Very spooky.

[Sabrina]

Happy New Year.

[Corinne]

Happy New Year 2026.

[Sabrina]

What are your actually. Nevermind.

[Corinne]

I don't do those.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I know. I was like, I don't want them.

[Corinne]

No. I resolve whenever. Time to resolve throughout the year.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I follow. I put pressure on ourselves immediately.

[Corinne]

This is what I love about the moon cycle. Like if you. If you feel so inclined to be a little witchy with every new moon cycle, you can do like an intention setting a look at where you are reset. It's not about the new year. It's about what feels right to you.

[Sabrina]

And also, like, we don't need to give another piece of homework and more tasks to ourselves.

[Corinne]

No, no. There's enough pressure in life.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Literally. Life is way too complicated.

[Sabrina]

I know.

[Corinne]

It's like. And we were not meant to deal with the things that we deal with.

[Sabrina]

No. And I feel like it's impossible. This. Oh, this is two girls One ghost, two girls, one ghost.

[Corinne]

We are your ghostesses. That is Corinne. Hi, I'm Sabrina. And this is the first Encounters of. Of 2026. Makes me want to vomit saying that.

[Sabrina]

Number, but I was gonna say it feels like we've talked for so long about. I don't know if this is what you still want, but it's definitely what I want for myself in my personal life. Like, the slow life, where it's like, kind of like it feels like it's the 90s again. Like, I want my childhood again repeated. Where it's like all the noise, all the chaos. Like, things just feel slower and more intentional and like you get to live in the moment.

[Corinne]

And running outside, there's less to do.

[Sabrina]

And less to see and less to talk about. But I feel like I can never get there because it feels like as soon as I think of getting somewhere, there's, like, 17 other things that get stacked on top of it. That. That pulls you away from that.

[Corinne]

So let's make everyone have all the money in the world. And we don't worry about taxes. We don't worry about paying bills. I think that's the solution. No more bills. Oh, cancel the bills.

[Sabrina]

Cancel the bills.

[Corinne]

And let's all just sit and tell ghost stories. I think that should be the new goal in life. No.

[Sabrina]

Bills pivot away from life complaints and straight into the dead.

[Corinne]

Yeah, exactly. And we have a theme. You just got lost in Sven eyes.

[Sabrina]

Well, because this started bothering me. Sven has a loose plastic hanging out of the roof of his mouth, but it's. I can't get it.

[Corinne]

Keep your mouth shut. Yuck.

[Sabrina]

Sven, he's got. He's got some plaque over your tissues.

[Corinne]

I don't think he has any tissue left. We have a theme. It's encounters from college. Ooh, Good university.

[Sabrina]

Good haunted universities where Sabrina and I met.

[Corinne]

And you're gonna go first.

[Sabrina]

Yes, I am.

[Corinne]

I was thinking, as I was in the bathroom before this episode, about how long ago college was, and I'm not even. I can't even say it. I don't.

[Sabrina]

I can't do the math.

[Corinne]

Years since we graduated.

[Sabrina]

Oh. I was like, wait, it's been longer than that since we graduated.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Bleep that out, though. Jamie. I don't want people to know. I don't want to age up.

[Sabrina]

It's interesting because I was actually thinking yesterday about how if I could redo college with the knowledge that I have now, I actually would, because I feel like a lot of the mistakes and regrets I have from that time period were not learning moments. They were just terrible decisions that had nothing to do with my growth or who I was or could be. It was just I consumed way too much alcohol.

[Corinne]

But don't you think you could say you learned that you don't like consuming alcohol from those experiences?

[Sabrina]

I think that came with maturity anyway. Yeah, but I would have gone back because I think the things that happened didn't change me, weren't for the better, and only hurt people that I still love. So I would go back and do it. Only if I could do it with the knowledge I have now, I would.

[Corinne]

Go back to do it just to do what we asked for in the beginning of this episode. Less adult cares in the world. Less bills. I mean, even though college is expensive.

[Sabrina]

As except for the bill was $60,000 a year bill to go to Loyola Marymount University.

[Corinne]

Universally.

[Sabrina]

Universally.

[Corinne]

And we learned how to speak there. Yep, you're going first.

[Sabrina]

Okay. This is called Caleb's Shadow. Hi, Corinne and Sabrina. My name is Bri. She her and I'm a new listener of the podcast. Absolutely perfect to get into around the Halloween season, I have a spooky story from college. So here we go. It was the summer of 2014, and I was going into my senior year of college in downtown Chicago. I will say my one complaint with all the stories that I picked out. I don't think anyone told us their actual university. It's just stories from their college. But we don't know where they are. I know, but here we have a clue. Downtown Chicago. Okay, I was an ra, and me and a handful of my other RA friends volunteered to spend the summer in one of the dorms hosting students over break in exchange for free housing.

[Corinne]

That is a great deal.

[Sabrina]

I'd never lived in this storm, but it was long rumored to be haunted. I've always believed in the possibility of spirits and the supernatural, but I'd never really had an encounter myself, so I didn't think twice about it. One night, my roommate and I were having a movie night, a sleepover in our friend's room. My roommate Sarah and I slept on the air mattress in the living room while our friends Nick and Caleb were asleep in their shared bedroom. In the middle of the night, I feel Sarah tossing and turning next to me and moaning. Stop. Knock it off. I asked them what was wrong and they said, Caleb keeps trying to tickle my feet. Caleb, knock it off. Our friend Caleb is a notorious prankster, so it wasn't a complete surprise that he was messing with us. A moment later, I started to feel really cold air on my feet and a tug on the side of the blanket. I told him to knock it off because I was trying to sleep. Eventually I turned around and I didn't see anyone at the foot of the mattress. But Sarah told me he just ran into the kitchen. The kitchen was a few feet in front of us and it was to the right, so it was blocked off by a wall. But you could see the entryway from where we were sleeping. Alright Caleb, you can come out now. I yelled from bed. I saw Caleb's silhouette, a complete shadow, quickly walking forward out of the kitchen and then backstep back in. Caleb has a very distinct silhouette. A very pointed nose, round belly and quiffed hair. So I was sure that it was him. Sarah and I both kept yelling at him from the air mattress to come out and stop pranking us. But he never re emerged from the kitchen because it wasn't Caleb. So eventually I got fed up. I got out of bed and I walked into the kitchen. It was dead empty. I thought I'd been seeing things, but Sarah told me that she had also seen Caleb walking in and out of the kitchen. So we both looked around for a moment in the kitchen and then around the hallway, expecting him to pop out and scare us, but nobody was there. We nervously went to the side of the apartment and knocked on the bedroom door. Caleb and Nick had both been in there the entire time and with the arrangement of the apartment, he would have had to pass through the living room where we were sleeping to get back to his bedroom if he was in fact breaking us. So we definitely would have seen him. But Caleb had never left that room. After going to bed, the four of us were now absolutely freaked out. We stayed up for another two hours watching friends to calm our minds. Sarah and I slept on the floor between the boys beds because we were way too afraid to be in the living room. And we never stayed the night in their apartment again. And I couldn't have been more grateful to move out of that dorm by the end of the summer. I hope you enjoyed reading and thank you for considering this story for your show. See you on the other side, Bri.

[Corinne]

Okay. It's terrifying in the sense that you don't want this to happen to you, but it's also playful and I'm curious about this entity. Like it doesn't seem like it's a bad entity.

[Sabrina]

No, but it's also, well, who was it and why? And also the fact that it was like mimicking Caleb silhouette if he had such a distinct. Such distinct features and like the way that. What if it was like the shadow.

[Corinne]

Is shaped a spirit attached to Caleb, Like a family member or someone that looks.

[Sabrina]

Or what if Caleb was astral projecting in the middle of the night and he doesn't want to dream?

[Corinne]

All I want to do is tickle their feet.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. What if he was like lucid dreaming and didn't realize, maybe didn't remember when he woke up?

[Corinne]

My cousin Jason, who we met at the North Carolina show, who like, infamously doesn't believe in ghosts.

[Sabrina]

He's not my favorite cousin of yours.

[Corinne]

He only because of that, every time I see him, he goes, so you have a new ghost story. So I saw him at my mom's 50th birthday immediately. So, Sabrina, I need new ghost stories to share. And I was like, I told them the sleep paralysis in Edinburgh. And he goes, I've had sleep paralysis before. It's weird. And I was like, excuse me.

[Sabrina]

Classic.

[Corinne]

I was like, how do you explain that? He goes, I don't know.

[Sabrina]

Chemicals in your brain, man. We all see the same creatures.

[Corinne]

No, he definitely thinks it's weird, but, like, won't. He doesn't not believe in ghosts. I think he just hasn't had an experience and he wants to have one, but it reminds me of that.

[Sabrina]

And I think he enjoys watching people who do believe in ghosts try to fight flustered.

[Corinne]

Oh, he is a potster if I ever knew.

[Sabrina]

Yes, and the bear is me. And the bear is actually Sasquatch. The bear is anywhere. Cause I will in this situation.

[Corinne]

You don't want to pick this bear. I'll always pick you. Speaking of bear, I actually picked this story for you and it's from a sister of yours. What? Alpha fee?

[Sabrina]

Oh, my gosh.

[Corinne]

Did you guys do a little like. Didn't you have like alpha fee bear or something?

[Sabrina]

Yeah, you do your bear ears and then you go, my other hand's holding coffee, so I won't do it. But the Alpha Phi. So one. He's barrier.

[Corinne]

I always remember you guys said the Alpha Phi bear ears, I don't know.

[Sabrina]

Was a bear or a mascot or something. Maybe we all did bear ears and you were theta, which is this.

[Corinne]

Or if you were me, I thought it was a fake mascot.

[Sabrina]

Okay, so bear must have been ours. Cause you did kite too.

[Corinne]

Yeah, Kite was our, like, symbol.

[Sabrina]

Okay, so we must have. But the Ivy was our symbol. You know what? Who knows? I was such a bad alpha fee that I ran for office. That's what you call it? Became chaplain and then cut the initiation. I edited it because I was like, this is way too long of a ceremony.

[Corinne]

I bet everyone appreciates it.

[Sabrina]

Made it efficient, expedited. I got those girls in and out real quick.

[Corinne]

Well, thank you for talking about initiation, because this story brings up initiation. This is from our listener and your sister, Michaela.

[Sabrina]

Sister.

[Corinne]

Sister. And it's called Haunted Sorority House Alpha Phi. Hi. I just started listening to your podcast and I'm hooked and trying to catch up. I'm currently listening to episode 78, Sister Sister, which discusses haunted sorority and fraternity houses, which I'm taking as a sign to share my story. I rushed in 2017, accepting a bid, and then moving into the house in 2018, which was never my original plan. It was truly last minute. I was asked to take a room on the first floor with a girl named Lauren, not her real name, since I have not asked her permission, if I could share this. But that.

[Sabrina]

That leads me to ask you. Did you always, like, did you go into college knowing that you were going to rush a sorority?

[Corinne]

Honestly, I watched the show Greek. Yeah. In high school, and it was one of my. I absolutely have to do Greek life.

[Sabrina]

Wow.

[Corinne]

And. And LMU happened to be the school that I fell in love with. And it's like one of the only Jesuit schools that also has Greek life.

[Sabrina]

And our Greek life was not traditional Greek life. We don't have houses.

[Corinne]

There's no houses.

[Sabrina]

There's no Greek row.

[Corinne]

There's no Greek row. And it's very like.

[Sabrina]

It's like joining an organization.

[Corinne]

Like, we're in different sororities, but we're.

[Sabrina]

Still most of our friend group friends. It was.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

DG Theta Alpha Phi. It was.

[Corinne]

We were a mixed group. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

I had no. I never put any thought to. Because my mom wasn't in a sorority. My dad was Atlantica and had a lot of scary stories from those days. Oh, I'm sure. So I can't say it was, like, enticing. But then at lmu, one of the unique things is you don't rush your first semester. So you have a full semester to make sense. And then people rush their second semester.

[Corinne]

I did like that.

[Sabrina]

All of our friends were rushing. So I was like, I guess I will too.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Cause like, some schools, because everyone else was doing it, I did it too. Situation.

[Corinne]

Peer pressure.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. I jumped off the bridge.

[Corinne]

Some schools literally, like, you go before school even started to go rush, which is crazy. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

That's so scary.

[Corinne]

No, it was a very different experience for us.

[Sabrina]

I would do One of those like semesters at senior something to avoid that.

[Corinne]

I love that. Okay, so Lauren and Mikayla move in together. Lauren's not the real name. Lauren and I were not close and we had extremely different lives. She was a homebody and I spent more nights at my then boyfriend's place than I did at the sorority house. Anyway, after moving in, we participated in rush and weirdly uncovered porcelain dolls in our ceremony closet. These dolls were never in there before. We have no idea how.

[Sabrina]

As chaplain of Alpha Fee, I can tell you that porcelain dolls are not a part of it.

[Corinne]

Yeah, yeah, we were all terrified, but we put them back where we found them in hopes to not disturb whatever could be attached. Unfortunately, that did not work. Preference round I had a. I love this because as I read this I was like, my brain already because it was. It's an abbreviation. It's pnm. But I immediately had potential new member. Like I knew.

[Sabrina]

Wait, what is it?

[Corinne]

Pnm. Potential new member.

[Sabrina]

Oh, I thought you meant it didn't stand for that. And I was like, then what else does it mean?

[Corinne]

No, no, no, like. But like she didn't write that. Oh yeah.

[Sabrina]

I just knew PNM's potential new members.

[Corinne]

So. Preference round I had a potential new member tell me that she watched a book fall off a shelf behind me during my speech. It made me want to throw up. But that was not even the worst experience in the house. We regularly heard walking, vacuuming and our heavy chapter room doors opening and closing being slammed shut. Which we were able to kind of brush off after arguing in the group chat about who was causing it. What really made me feel super sick was when Lauren decided to go home for a weekend and left me alone in our double. That night I had the most uneasy feeling on the first floor. Like the entire floor I felt so uneasy in. It was as if someone is in the house that shouldn't have been there and they were watching. I brushed this off as me being stupid and I went to bed. That night I woke up to hearing tapping on our wall slash window frame. I looked to where the sound was coming from and I saw a tall man in a hat under Lauren's lofted bed. Sitting in the futon. I couldn't see his face, but he was in a pinstripe suit with a fedora. I could not move my legs. I couldn't say anything. It felt like I just had to sit there, lay there and watch him watching me for hours.

[Sabrina]

That's awful.

[Corinne]

The next morning Lauren came home and I immediately Told her something weird happened last night. But before I could get any details out, she stopped me and said, is it the man under my bed?

[Sabrina]

What the fuck?

[Corinne]

If I wasn't already scared, I was now shitting my pants. She told me it happens whenever I'm not there.

[Jonathan Van Ness]

What?

[Corinne]

And the first time, it felt so real that she got up and swung her hair straightener under the bed, denting the wall because she was trying to hit him, but there was no one there. The straightener hit the wall.

[Sabrina]

Oh my God, this is so scary. Especially cause not to like, immediately go to like murderers, but like Ed Kemper, Ted Bundy, like, you think of all the examples of like these terrible people.

[Corinne]

Going after Golden State Killer, like standing out to the window, you know, like, it's just. Yeah. We also realize our dreams were the exact same. So we asked the girl in the single next to us and she said she hears tapping but never saw anything or anything else weird. She just assumed it was one of us tapping. We truly never got an answer as to why this happened or what it was. But we never let the others sleep alone in that house again. Thanks for reading. I have loads of other stories, like the girl under the stairs at my grandma's house. Or visiting my friend at Ohio University, where the campus sits in the middle of five cemeteries which create the shape of a pentagram. Love the podcast. Can't wait to eventually catch up. Mikayla.

[Sabrina]

Wow, that is freaking terrifying.

[Corinne]

And to have no answer. And also the weird, the fact that it all started around these dolls appearing in the ceremony closet.

[Sabrina]

I almost forgot about that detail. I did forget about that detail.

[Corinne]

Like, and I feel like Mikayla probably didn't think anything of it. But then looking back, it's like, oh, this is kind of when everything started.

[Sabrina]

One sister was like a haunted artifact lover bringing things in and no one else knew. So creepy.

[Corinne]

I also wonder what those dolls looked like. They were probably very creepy.

[Sabrina]

Did you have a house mother? Didn't people have house mothers when they had like actual sorority homes?

[Corinne]

Is that a real thing?

[Sabrina]

I think so, because we went to for Alpha fee when I was chaplain. We did because we didn't have a house. We did initiation at the USC Alpha Fee house. They like let us borrow the house.

[Corinne]

And the like house mother lives in the house.

[Sabrina]

I think so. I met a house mother. I met some 45 year old woman. I don't know who she.

[Corinne]

I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine living in a college house.

[Sabrina]

No. Oh my God. That would be. That's the Worst. Why would you want that?

[Corinne]

Awful.

[Sabrina]

You have to be the heaviest sleeper. You have to give zero shits.

[Corinne]

I could never do it.

[Sabrina]

It's like, what's the motivation?

[Corinne]

Unless, like your daughter, like, unless you're like Rory and Lorelai Gilmore. Like, yeah, which they would never be sorority girls. But that's like, the only reason I could be like, oh, that makes sense.

[Sabrina]

I can't imagine ever doing that.

[Corinne]

If anyone knows how that works, please let us. No.

[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Corinne]

Well, now I know why you chose.

[Sabrina]

This one for picking a story for me last time, but I picked this one also for me. Hi, guys. You can call me Ben. I just listened to your podcast for the first time and I loved it. It made me want to share a story of my own. So here's some backstory on myself. I feel like I've always had some type of ability when it comes to the paranormal, and I've always been into spooky stuff. I always thought that maybe I could read energy from places and people specifically, but as a kid, I would experience the energy, particularly negative energy, so intensely that I would end up freaking out and have to be taken home from places.

[Corinne]

Oh, that's so sad. But also, that's a good kid to have, right?

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Like, read the. Literally read the room, the energy. I also feel like I tend to attract out of the ordinary things happening to me, which I guess is what this story in particular is about.

[Corinne]

Hmm.

[Sabrina]

I finished my freshman year of college at North Dakota State University a few weeks ago. I really loved the school and I'm excited to go back. But I had an array of strange experiences, especially at the start of the year. My first weird experience was in the first two weeks after moving in. I was writing a paper for one of my classes, and my roommate was at one of his clubs that night, so I was home alone. It was probably around 9:30 or so, and I felt like I'd done enough work. So I took my headphones off and I was just going to scroll on Instagram for a while. Maybe 15 minutes go by, and I Started hearing really low male voices talking unintelligibly. Not that weird, but it definitely was not my roommate talking outside the door because his voice was not that low. It kept going on and I was trying to tell where it was coming from. And it felt like maybe it was an echo chamber in the room, these low, low male voices. So I went into the hallway. All the doors were shut. And when I came back in, the voices were gone. Everything was pretty normal for a while. But as the semester went on, more strange things began to happen. One weekend in October, I came back from somewhere or the other. And now an important part to note is that my dorm room has no ac. There's no ventilation unless you bring a fan or you have a window open. I had these metallic hooks on my bed that I could put a lanyard like my school ID on. I did that just like every other time and went to go click around on my computer a few seconds after I heard something. And I turn around to see my lanyard had unhooked itself from the hook, flew across the room, hit my roommate's chair, and landed on the seat of that chair with no ventilation. Something picked it up and threw it six feet.

[Corinne]

Yeah, that's not like it just falling off the hook. That is also.

[Sabrina]

I don't think a fan could blow at six feet. No, I just thought it was weird until me and one of my friends went on a haunted campus tour. I will LMU let us do that.

[Corinne]

Could you imagine if we went back to LMU to do a haunted campus store?

[Sabrina]

Fuck, that's cool.

[Corinne]

That would be so fun.

[Sabrina]

That would be.

[Corinne]

Is that the only thing that will bring you back to la?

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Lmu, if you're listening, if you want.

[Sabrina]

Me to get on a plane and go to la, that's the only way. At the end of the tour, they asked us if we had any ghost stories. I told them mine and they asked what dorm I was in. I said the name and they had a physical reaction which told me that something had happened there. And unfortunately, there had been known suicides in that dorm.

[Corinne]

Jeez.

[Sabrina]

But that, in tandem with the two things, made me think that maybe something else had been at play. That friend I did the tour with had an experience too. Her dorm was supposed to be haunted by the namesake of it, but her spirit is angry because they gave the building her married name and not her maiden name.

[Corinne]

I would be pissed about that too.

[Sabrina]

One night past midnight, my friend heard heavy footsteps outside and went to go see what was going on. She said that at the end of the hallway, she saw a woman wearing a long dress with her hair tied up in a bun walking down the hallway. And no one does that in the middle of the night during the week. She assumed it must be the ghost of the namesake of the building. And then there's this campus legend. It's more funny than scary.

[Corinne]

Okay.

[Sabrina]

Years and years ago, the college had a cow that produced a lot of butter. Like an entire college's usage. That's a really esteemed cow. Unfortunately, the cow ended up dying and they buried it somewhere on the campus. However, during that time, records were moved around and the record of where the cow was buried was lost. So there are now. There are now cow bones somewhere beyond that. It is said that students who walk around on the south end of campus at night may hear mooing and sometimes a spectral cow appears to them and wanders around campus.

[Corinne]

I love this. I love this haunting.

[Sabrina]

Perhaps trying to find where it is.

[Corinne]

Buried to or is that an indication of where it's buried?

[Sabrina]

Yeah, maybe it's the south end somewhere on the south end of campus. I tried to see this cow, but I haven't yet. Thanks so much. I'm definitely going to listen to your podcast. More now from Ben.

[Corinne]

I'm obsessed with this cow and this legend for the school. What a cool, unique story. I saw a video the other day where it was, this man gave a gift to his wife, but it was like a push present. But it wasn't like a bag. It wasn't, you know, like a material item. I mean, it was material in the sense that it was material. But he literally shipped. I want to say it was like six pound block of butter from France. From France to their home. And then he put together this, like, beautiful little basket with like, baguettes, mustards, like, so that they can make sandwiches. And she, like, loves butter.

[Sabrina]

God, that is such a good gift.

[Corinne]

I know. I was like, I kind of feel like that would be.

[Sabrina]

Oh, giant butter. Yeah, fuck me up.

[Corinne]

Me up.

[Sabrina]

That's a great push present.

[Corinne]

That is a haunted college.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, there's a lot going on. It seems like every dorm is haunted. But I do. I would like to. Okay. North Dakota State University. Hold on. I just do a quick Google because I'm like, is this like in the middle of a city or a town? Because I'm so curious about the ghost tour. Like, is it an on campus offered ghost tour or is it just like a ghost tour in the town? In the town that they stop in front of the.

[Corinne]

What's the verdict.

[Sabrina]

It is, like, in the middle of a town.

[Corinne]

Okay, but that doesn't mean it's not a campus ghost tour.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

Should we look up the town and.

[Sabrina]

See if we can. Wait? This is confusing, though, because, like, all the buildings around say that they're a part of. Jesus Christ. How big is this university?

[Corinne]

The state school?

[Sabrina]

Damn.

[Corinne]

It is the town.

[Sabrina]

I think it is the town.

[Corinne]

The town is the college. Okay, well, we were talking about who would be a dorm or, like, a house. Mom, as you were telling me that story, I was thinking about. I remember my freshman year, I think it was on, like, the top floor of our dorm at the very end of the hall. Instead of, like, an ra, there was a teacher and his family living there.

[Sabrina]

And is that just. Cause, like, they're. They put them up to be.

[Corinne]

I think they. Yeah, it was housing for them, the teachers to come. But then I was thinking about that, and I have a story that is from someone who grew up on a college.

[Sabrina]

On a college. What? Yeah, man. What? In the Suite Life of Zack and Cody. Like, that is such a unique experience. I know.

[Corinne]

This is from our listener, Maisie.

[Sabrina]

I didn't know you could.

[Corinne]

It's called Growing up in a Haunted College Dorm. A Real childhood story. Hi, Corinne and Sabrina. Could you imagine having people over to your house, be like, hey, I'm gonna have friends over. Come to my college.

[Sabrina]

Come to my college. Also, I feel like, honestly, like, having raising kids on a college campus also, in a way feels very safe because just through gossip and everything, like, all people on call on the campus are gonna know.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Who the kids are that live. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And so you have a million eyes and babysitters on your kids at all times.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Okay. Hi, Corinne and Sabrina. My name is Maisie, and I'm a huge fan of the podcast. I wanted to share a bundle of paranormal experiences from my early childhood. A bundle all surrounded around a place that most people don't grow up in, a college dorm. From the late 90s into the early 2000s, my family lived on the first floor of a dormitory at Arizona Western College. My mom was the volleyball coach. My dad was the football coach and head resident. And that made the dorm our home.

[Sabrina]

Wow. I'm so curious what the actual dorm looked like.

[Corinne]

Well, we're gonna get some, like, I pictures.

[Sabrina]

We're gonna get some tidbits when they go. When they do those, like, games or whatever in Harry Potter, and they all have those, like, little tents on the field, but then you enter the tent and it's like, Massive. That's what I'm picturing.

[Corinne]

I mean, it was probably magical for a kid.

[Sabrina]

Cause it's definitely bigger than a normal dorm.

[Corinne]

Yeah, they probably have multiple rooms. Yeah, probably not.

[Sabrina]

It's like a apartment, but it probably.

[Corinne]

Doesn'T have all the bells and whistles. But yeah, actually when I went back to la, this is now like five years ago, one of the trips, I went and saw some of the new dorms on campus and they look like.

[Sabrina]

Wait, there are new dorms?

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Where?

[Corinne]

Where? Doheny.

[Sabrina]

I think the newer ones anyway.

[Corinne]

No, those were the oldest ones. But they literally look like fancy new apartments.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, kids these days.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Like they had a full Jamba Juice right there. Yeah, I think so.

[Sabrina]

Wow, that's nice. To live right there and then walk across to Jamba.

[Corinne]

Okay. So my sister and I had the run of the place. Playing in the lobby, riding Barbie cars through the courtyard, bikes through the halls, which we later found out terrified the students because it's total shining vibes. And we would be watched over by students and staff who adored us. But the dorm didn't just come with college energy, it came with something else. Even as a little kid, I could feel the energy. We never liked going to the second floor because it felt dark, heavy, and even when the lights were on, it felt a little spooky. I don't know how to describe it then, but now I understand that I was sensing energy. I was already tuned in. One of my clearest memories happened when my grandparents came to visit from Montana. My grandma invited me to sleep in one of the empty dorm rooms with her. It had two twin beds, one on each side. So I woke up in the middle of the night to muffled talking. And when I sat up, I saw two men standing at the foot of my bed. This also makes me think that this dorm was empty for a reason. One of the men was tall with a long red beard and a straw hat. The other was shorter with brown hair, wearing overalls and chewing on what looked like hay. The shorter one looked up at me and said, oh, she's up. I dove under the blanket, then crawled into bed with my grandma. She didn't question it, just pulled me in. And the next morning I tried to tell my parents, but they told me it was just a bad dream. But I knew it wasn't.

[Sabrina]

Hell no. I feel like. I mean, it's skewed coming from us because obviously we believe in the paranormal and I feel like everywhere is haunted. But like if someone told me a ghost story, specifically on a College campus. I feel like I would believe them. I know more than most other places.

[Corinne]

It's tough, though, because I understand as a parent, if you're not experiencing anything and everything's pleasant to you, or even if you are experiencing anything and you know you're gonna live there for a really long time, like, you don't want to, like, add to the fear.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. And also, like differentiating between what is like a nightmare or imagination versus a real experience.

[Corinne]

But years later, when my grandmother was dying from cancer, we visited her to say goodbye. She had kept handwritten journals and tape recordings when she could no longer write. And in one of her entries, she wrote about that night. It confirmed everything I experienced. This is like she had seen them too.

[Sabrina]

Holy shit.

[Corinne]

I looked at my dad and yelled, I told you. He just nodded, admitting they didn't want to scare me more since we still had to live there.

[Sabrina]

So she saw the guys, heard them say, oh, she's up.

[Corinne]

But that man came back. Not long after, I had another encounter with the short brown haired man. I was sleeping with my head at the foot of the bed because kids are weird. And in the middle of the night, he popped up from underneath and yelled. Just yelled. Startled me awake. And then he vanished.

[Sabrina]

Under the bed.

[Corinne]

Yeah, Literally.

[Sabrina]

Like, you have too many stories about people under the bed today. This is scary. That's like a classic, like, ghost story monster trope. And I feel like we almost never encounter it.

[Corinne]

Well, I'm also imagining these beds are, like, higher up because, like, I had my bed. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Needless to say, I never slept with my head at the foot of the bed ever again. And I still don't know why or what he wanted and why he popped up and yelled. Okay. But also, we were the chaos. Because here's the twist. After a while, my sister and I leaned into the spooky energy because, like, if the dorm's haunted, we. We may as well play into it, Right? And we started scaring students on purpose. One of our favorite pranks is we would hide in the lockers in the women's locker room during my mom's volleyball games right before halftime when the team would storm in, stressed and sweaty, ready for coach reaming. We would jump out and scare the ever loving soul out of all of them.

[Sabrina]

To us, hilarious.

[Corinne]

To them, emotional terrorism from children. I mean, could you imagine you're losing a game and then your coach's kids pop out like haunted goblins? I think it's hilarious too. I have even more stories tied to that campus creepy Buildings, unsettling student experiences, and things my parents only started admitting to me years later. While nothing truly dark or harmful ever happened to me personally, there are definitely some stories from students that weren't so nice, which I'm going to share. There was even one specific dorm room, from what I remember, that stayed empty because of the heavy, almost suffocating energy inside. No one ever said it out loud, but everyone avoided it. So here's my reflection. I truly believe that the land itself was sacred and had seen a lot and not all of it good. Like I mentioned, there were definitely dark things that happened there. I'm gathering some more facts and stories about those. But what's wild is I felt like something there always protected me. Maybe it was something in me, something that awakened Jung. I was already doing my own little rituals as a child, before I even knew that they were rituals. Maybe it was the people around me, my parents, players who came from all over the world, brought their own beliefs, energy, and protection. But one of them was a Native American who lived on a reservation. And she taught us so much and radiated calm, grounded power. I loved being around her. Or maybe it was my grandmother who grew up on the Blackfeet reservation in Montana. While we are not Native American ourselves, her life was deeply shaped by the land, the people, and the culture she lived among. That influence wove itself into our family's story in quiet, powerful ways. And I carry a deep respect and gratitude for these traditions, whatever it was. Even with so much happening around me, we were safe. And that's why I feel called to tell this story now. But my experiences didn't end when we left the dorms. Because everywhere I have lived, everywhere I have traveled, even now I have more experiences. I've grown into my craft and now have a full space dedicated to diving even deeper into it.

[Sabrina]

Oh, I love that.

[Corinne]

It's simply who I am. You were called to it, and honestly, I love it.

[Sabrina]

Are born into it.

[Corinne]

Truly, I feel honored to remain connected to whatever exists beyond the veil. If you're interested, I would love to share more stories from childhood to today. Yes, always. See you on the other side, Maisie.

[Sabrina]

Wow.

[Corinne]

What a cool childhood.

[Sabrina]

Dang. That's a very cool childhood.

[Corinne]

And unique.

[Sabrina]

I can't imagine doing it for, like, multiple years, too.

[Corinne]

I would, because I don't know how long Maisie lived there for, but I could imagine, like, say, this is the writer in me, the creative being, like, okay. She grew up on the college campus from ages 5 to 12. Then she went off to do high School, wherever the fantasy in me is. She goes back to college, to this school and is reacquainted with all the spirits. That's the movie. Movie idea.

[Sabrina]

Damn. Except it's kind of a real life.

[Corinne]

I know.

[Sabrina]

I wonder if she has ever gone back there.

[Corinne]

Maisie, Let us know.

[Sabrina]

Tell us. Tell us everything. I also love the name Maisie.

[Corinne]

I know, it's a very nice name.

[Sabrina]

I met a Maisie only one time ever when I was 12 on a cruise. And she was from like Tennessee or something. And she had like this deep southern accent or it was like me and a bunch of other 12 year olds, you know, like. Like 13 to 8. Like the whole crew.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And she had these big like fake press on nails, but I don't think they were press on. I think she like actually went and got her nails.

[Corinne]

Oh my gosh.

[Sabrina]

She was like 12 and she was constantly like going like this. And I've never forgotten her because I thought she.

[Corinne]

Maisie. So cool and coolest name.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Okay. A college dorm from 1854 and the neighboring class building from 1748. Oh, and another thing about Maisie. Maisie from the cruise.

[Corinne]

What if Maisie listens?

[Sabrina]

Oh my gosh.

[Corinne]

Maisie remembers you from the cruise. He would not remember Corinne from Vermont. Just she had boring plain nails.

[Sabrina]

Silent girl who was like, what? It was her birthday on the cruise. We all went and had dinner and she ate frog legs.

[Corinne]

How French of her.

[Sabrina]

I know. I was like, holy shit. You're very daring girl with your fake nails.

[Corinne]

Like, I really want to find this Maisie. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard.

[Sabrina]

She finally stuck out to me because.

[Corinne]

You could figure out what days you did.

[Sabrina]

Your parents work for Allstate. And when you were around 11 to 13 years old, did you go on a cruise? Started in Athens, Greece and ended in Venice, Italy. Did you have your birthday on the.

[Corinne]

Face slide into your. Into Corinne's dm?

[Sabrina]

I have a photo of you that I took of you eating frog legs.

[Corinne]

This is my new like obsession. I want to find Maisie.

[Sabrina]

She was blonde, very blonde. Because I have like a whole. A whole, you know, like one of those. What are they? The like old cameras, like the wind up.

[Corinne]

Yeah, whatever.

[Sabrina]

I had like a bunch of those.

[Corinne]

The disposable cameras. Yeah, yeah.

[Sabrina]

And so I like more recently like looked at photo the photos from then.

[Corinne]

Post it on our stories. Like, is this you?

[Sabrina]

If my parents didn't throw it out in their move.

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[Corinne]

This week on Lipstick on the Rim, we sat down with the one and only Rachel Zo and wow, this episode is a ride. We talked about everything. Motherhood, divorce, finding herself again, joining Real Housewives literally overnight. And then she said this.

[Rachel Zoe]

Can I tell you a true story in Covid? In the darkness of COVID I had a cat eye every single day where nobody saw me. Not one soul. And when I had Covid, not even my ex husband saw me or my children. And you know what I did? I went into my bathroom, I did a black liquid liner, put on lashes, black liner in the waterline, a full lip, did my hair and sat in my bed. And that is what I did. And I looked at myself and I said, you are not a well person. I said, are you fucking okay? You have 104 fever.

[Sabrina]

You are like.

[Rachel Zoe]

You are like contagion right now.

[Corinne]

If you love fashion, beauty or bravo.

[Rachel Zoe]

This Rachel Zoe episode is a must.

[Corinne]

It's out now.

[Sabrina]

Hello Sabrina and Corinne, my most favorite podcast hostesses and their ghost. If ever I have my earbuds in and one of my family members tries to talk to me, they wait to see until I turn the volume down or I glare at them. If I glare, they know I'm listening to two girls from Ghost and that they need to wait a bit.

[Corinne]

I love the dude.

[Sabrina]

So good on with my tale. I've always been both terrified by and enamored with ghost stories. I still remember wrapping both of my arms around my dad's leg as a little kid as he stood in our living room trying to decide if he wanted to change the channel from a version of A Christmas Carol with no remotes. In the mid-1970s, the ghost of Christmas Past had me locked onto my dad for dear life. But I couldn't look away. My favorite ghost story is the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Growing up in a small village in Vermont, complete with a covered bridge and a population of about 250 people, the idea from Woodstock, the idea of Sleepy Hollow and the Horseman, was very real to me. My favorite Horror movies are the Swedish version of Let the Right One in. And the others.

[Corinne]

Wait, the Swedish version?

[Sabrina]

Swedish version. We gotta see that.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Sometimes the scariest movies are. Swedish films are intense and just like international, like the El Orfanado. I'll never stop thinking about that. So scary.

[Corinne]

Yes.

[Sabrina]

Okay. I don't read much horror now, but when I was in the second grade, I was a precocious reader. And in the 80s and Stephen King's classics being very popular. I was eight trying to read them. My parents told me not to read them. No argument. Well, that meant that I was just gonna hide in the back of our Subaru hatchback and read Pet Sematary, Cujo, Firestarter, and Christine.

[Corinne]

I'm obsessed.

[Sabrina]

I love that I still can't sleep with the closet door open. Christine is the only book that made me jump while reading. Now I want to read that one.

[Corinne]

Eric brought that up recently on Campfire Stories.

[Sabrina]

Oh, yeah.

[Corinne]

He mentioned the haunted car situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sabrina]

Because I don't think none of us understood what he was talking about. It was embarrassing for all of us.

[Corinne]

We felt like idiots. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

But I didn't have any ghost stories until I went to college and I moved into a dorm in an old town in eastern Pennsylvania where. Yeah, please tell us she doesn't. It's a lovely campus with tall mottled sycamores whose roots make the sidewalks buckle. Buildings of fieldstone and brick, some dating back to before the American Revolution. I knew friends who had odd experiences in our dorm and in the four story art studio building. Okay, another clue. Four story art studio building, Eastern Pennsylvania. Eastern Pennsylvania University.

[Corinne]

Should I start doing the. I'm gonna do a Google search.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. But the close proximity of the Music Building is what kept us all a bit antsy when working late into the night. The Music Building filled with practice studios and a chapel. Okay, there's a chapel. The chapel was built in 1748. We're getting more clues. Not only that, but it had been used in. In the Revolution as a hospital. Another big clue. This would probably explain why my friend Steph woke up one night, looked out the window to the small balcony off of her dorm room and saw a pair of worn breeches and boots with hobnail soles emerging from under the shade. Our Dorm was only 8ft from that building, which was named by Reader's Digest as the most haunted college building in the country. Okay, Reader's Digest. Most haunted college building building in the U.S. in the U.S. pennsylvania. So many clues. This is like, riddled with Clues.

[Corinne]

I know. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

We have no answer.

[Corinne]

Gettysburg College. It's the first thing it comes up. There's also University of Pennsylvania. Allegheny University. There's so many. Or Allegheny College. But Gettysburg College is what comes up when you search Reader's Digest. Mosh. Haunted College building.

[Sabrina]

Okay, And I looked up if they have an art studio and they do an art building and arts and music are hosted at Schmucker Hall.

[Corinne]

Watch were, like, so wrong. Yeah, the one that came up when I was searching eastern Pennsylvania was Eastern University.

[Sabrina]

Okay, now I gotta look at images of Schmucker hall. And it is four stories.

[Jonathan Van Ness]

Boom.

[Sabrina]

We found your college. You gave Watchword too much information. No, this has to be right. Oh, and she said, see attached.

[Corinne]

Oh, isn't it.

[Sabrina]

Oh, it used to be called. So this is the picture of the old music building, and it was called the Moravian Seminary for Young Ladies. That was hard to read.

[Corinne]

Wait, it's Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. My brother went to Bethlehem. Or he went to Lehigh, which is in Bethlehem. So is it Lehigh? What other universities are in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania?

[Sabrina]

Wait, but it looks just like Schmucker Hall. You've sent us on a goose chase.

[Corinne]

Okay, there's Lehigh and there's Moravian University, which is focus on liberal arts.

[Sabrina]

Well, this is very confusing. It would be less confusing if you told us where.

[Corinne]

We can look up the name of that building. What's the name of the building? The old photo.

[Sabrina]

The one in the photo says the Moravian Seminary for Young People.

[Corinne]

Oh, Moravian University.

[Sabrina]

Okay. Well, we still figured it out.

[Corinne]

Dippy them.

[Sabrina]

I still, like, am questioning if it's even right.

[Corinne]

It's for sure. It's this Bethlehem.

[Sabrina]

Okay, finally, we're there. So many clues. For me, when things happened, it was only upon thinking about them a minute or so later that I realized that what I just experienced wasn't possible. My roommate and I had a large room with towering ceilings. Our heat register was always off, but clanging away at night, and we were perpetually warm. I was often in the room alone, which was when I felt things and heard things. One night, I heard people walking around the room above ours. And then I realized the sounds weren't coming from upstairs, but between them and me. Like the 10ft of air above my head. Not on any floor. Another time, the dorm was quiet and I heard someone come up the echoing stairwell. I heard the swinging door to my floor open and shut. And then nothing. No one was there. No one continued on through the hall. No one turned and went back down or up the stairs. They just vanished. My Nana was very open to and gifted with things beyond the veil. She loved to tell me about our Romani ancestors. More on her another time, because she was really amazing. And when she heard that I was experiencing these things, she put together a little packet of herbs for me. For protection.

[Corinne]

I love your grandmother.

[Sabrina]

I hadn't felt threatened, but I was scared. When I was alone at night, I often slept with my back smack up against the wall. After shaking some herbs on my skin before bed, I settled in comfortably. But it was not a comfortable night. Once the light was out and I was under the covers, back against the wall, I felt a presence swoop in very close to me. It radiated insult. My eyes were tightly shut, but an impression formed in my head. This was a woman in a dark dress from the 1800s, which would make sense given my dorm had started in 1854. Oh, shit. She did tell us. As a seminary for young ladies. That's another huge clip. We had a picture and she said the original name. Sorry, I'm blaming everyone.

[Corinne]

We had to do all this, like, searching and it's literally threesomes right in front of us.

[Sabrina]

But that was fun, wasn't it?

[Corinne]

It was, it was. We went on a little scavenger hunt. It was fun.

[Sabrina]

She was bent forward, a face not far from mine. I can't explain what happened next, but I have experienced it twice that night and when my Nana helped me find her gravesite when I was lost in the cemetery. I didn't hear it externally, but I sensed it inside of me. Someone clearly saying, I have never done anything to you. And then it was gone.

[Corinne]

What a strange sentence, right?

[Sabrina]

It's like, did you think I was mad at you? Like what? Oh, God, that would be a horrible eternity to spend your whole afterlife thinking that everyone's mad at you.

[Corinne]

So sad. That is torture.

[Sabrina]

That's how.

[Corinne]

That's so sad.

[Sabrina]

I brushed those herbs off as best I could, and then I never used them again. As an art major, I spent a lot of time in the art building, which was attached to the very haunted music building. I would hear friends working in their studios after dark, and when I called to say goodnight to them, everyone had already gone home. That would mean that they hadn't been the ones making the noise. I was the only one there. Four floors, about 40 rooms. I hated having to go down those long, empty hallways, closed studio doors on either side, and then down the creaking wooden stairs into the yawning gray shadows of the first floor. At the top of the stairs was a light switch for the first floor hall. So I gathered my courage. I snapped the light off, barreled down the stairs, lit only by an elevator room at the end of the building. I was all bravery for those first few stairs. But when I was equidistant from the second floor landing and the door to the outside, in the fresh air, I felt very much not alone. I could only push myself to keep going despite fear, relieved to finally get outside and take in a gulp of cold air. Of course, there was another way out, but that was through. You guessed it. The music building.

[Corinne]

I thought she was gonna say, like, jump out the window.

[Sabrina]

I know. I think the same thing. A big slide from the parkour from the bell tower at the top, the parkour down the building scale. Spidey webs.

[Corinne]

Spidey monkey. My brother used to do that. Like, literally. He would remove his screen from our home window on the second floor and he would parkour out of the house.

[Sabrina]

When? In winter, when he was like, just all seasons or when there was like, nice snow pile below?

[Corinne]

No, all season.

[Sabrina]

How did he get down Parkour? You can't parkour just on open air.

[Corinne]

He would, like. He would go like, the side of the roof and then like, the wall and then down.

[Sabrina]

Shit, Graham, that's dangerous. That's crazy.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Christian had outside of his room, the, like, roof of the first floor had extended. So in the winter, I never did it because I wasn't brave or stupid, but in the winter, he and my dad would go up on the roof and then they would make like, a huge snow pile below and then jump into it from the roof.

[Corinne]

Snow can get hard.

[Sabrina]

I know.

[Corinne]

Here's the thing. They survived.

[Sabrina]

I only broke bones doing sports. Christian broke bones just jumping out of his doing life. I only went through the music building twice in the dark by the light of an exit sign. Shivers. I love your podcast so much, and your friendship is the balm in the midst of a lot of awful things going on in the world. That's really nice. All tight to each other. Lastly, I was listening to TGOG while driving the other day, not long after I started listening to the show. I'm a newbie, and as I drove at dusk, I saw dull flashing out of the corner of my eye, and I looked to see the audio display blinking, then going blank and then returning to its usual letters and numbers. What? It did this in a loop over and over again. There was no interruption to the show breaking your car, but the display went berserk for a bit and then stopped completely.

[Corinne]

Hmm.

[Sabrina]

My car is in 2016 and it has never done that before. Keep up your fantastic work. See you on the other side. Melissa in Pennsylvania.

[Corinne]

Well, Melissa, that is a haunted ass school. Those are really pretty. I like the Bethlehem is beautiful.

[Sabrina]

I know a couple people went to Lehigh too. I can't believe I'm so glad you went to lmu because obviously we met. We wouldn't have met, but I can't believe you didn't go to Princeton.

[Corinne]

One, I would never have gotten into Princeton.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I forgot that you have to get admitted. You can't just choose.

[Corinne]

And two, I grew up like literally I ran those, I ran that campus in high school.

[Sabrina]

It's like the prettiest campus I've ever seen.

[Corinne]

Yeah, but it was my high school experience. Like we literally would go to Princeton campus all the time.

[Sabrina]

LMU is also always what it is. Like one of the prettiest campuses.

[Corinne]

They're just very different. Beauty. Yeah, there's like.

[Sabrina]

So it's not like you left one beauty for something ugly.

[Corinne]

No, no.

[Sabrina]

Some of these universities, you guys, I'll go.

[Corinne]

Wait. Someone recently emailed us saying like the school I went to is like the ugliest campus. We were like, we have to look this up.

[Sabrina]

Sorry, Jimmy.

[Corinne]

And it was pretty ugly. Yeah, it was like concrete buildings with no windows.

[Sabrina]

I, I needed something pretty. Christian was even worse than me when it came to the aesthetics of a campus. Christian. My younger brother ended up going to LMU too. But he touring one of the colleges in Texas, he said he didn't want to go there because he didn't like what type of grass they had.

[Corinne]

What kind of grass did they have?

[Sabrina]

Grass? It was sharp and thick bladed. He didn't like it.

[Corinne]

You know, you can't fault a man for knowing what he likes and doesn't like sometimes.

[Sabrina]

And that's, you know, campuses have lots of grass. So if you don't like the grass.

[Corinne]

And that's, that's a big deal you're.

[Sabrina]

Going to be thinking about.

[Corinne]

There was freshman year, I remember during a rainstorm, our friend Chase and my. This girl Sally who lived across the dorm, we got dish soap and we went to Sunken Gardens. It was like the like big quad, grassy quad that was between like the freshmen dorms. And we put the dish soap on the water and like the muddy grass and we like started like mudsliding.

[Sabrina]

That's so fun.

[Corinne]

And psafe came up to us and like, what are you doing? Like, you can't do this. You're ruining the property. And we're like, we're having fun. And he just, like, rolled his head and was like, you gotta stop, and then left.

[Sabrina]

Oh, man.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Chase might be a supernatural being because I think he existed in every group with everyone doing everything all the time.

[Corinne]

And he still does.

[Sabrina]

How does he do it?

[Corinne]

Social butterfly.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, he has like a thousand unread text messages, so just like you. Yeah. But I finally did what you told me to do, and I looked them all as read. So now after doing that last week.

[Corinne]

What are you at?

[Sabrina]

107.

[Corinne]

Nice.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, so I haven't responded 107 times to people in the past week, but I will say there's like. There's like 15 that I think are like Cyber Monday. Like.

[Corinne]

Well, there are also a lot on Thanksgiving that you and I are both in. I still haven't opened that, but I just felt like I should include you in those group texts.

[Sabrina]

Thank you. Yeah, thanks for including me.

[Corinne]

And thanks for including us in sharing your ghost stories. We hope you continue to do so. If you have any stories in any topic, it can also be a topic that we've already covered because we will revisit them or we'll find a way to include it in another topic. So please email your ghost stories to us no matter what. Our email is two girls, one ghost. Podcastmail.com. it's also a new year and lots of new things are happening. We're planning on new merch for the year. We also have some exciting bonuses on Patreon, like bonus episodes every month. Episodes ad free, one week early. We also are doing witch class. We also have book club. The end of this month, we are reading We Used to Live Here by Marcus Klewer. And we'll be meeting at the end of January to discuss. So if that interests you, please join us over on Patreon.

[Sabrina]

Thank you to Jamie Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast, and our producer and social media guru, Emma Laventer. Thank you guys so much.

[Corinne]

We love you all very much and.

[Sabrina]

We will see you on the other side.

[Corinne]

Very spooky.