Encounters x315 - Sleep Paralysis Stories

Summary

Two Girls One Ghost — Encounters x315: Sleep Paralysis Stories

Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
Release Date: January 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this chilling episode, Corinne and Sabrina dive into one of the most requested—and terrifying—listener topics: sleep paralysis. The hosts read and react to several listener-submitted stories about sleep paralysis experiences, ranging from demonic encounters and haunted homes to the unexpected appearance of Victorian ghosts and even paranormal pets. Their conversational and supportive style offers both levity and genuine empathy for the unsettling nature of these experiences.

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Key Discussion Points & Listener Stories

1. Setting the Scene & Personal Experiences

• The hosts introduce sleep paralysis as a central topic due to the "flooded" inbox of submissions.
• Sabrina shares she's recently experienced sleep paralysis for the first time and doesn't recommend it. (02:31)

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2. Angela's “Something Evil Folded Me Like a Pretzel”

[03:08–07:50]

• Summary: Angela recounts two terrifying sleep paralysis experiences occurring as she began reading the Bible. Both times, she awoke in unnatural, cold poses at exactly 4am, having fought off sinister presences in her dreams.
• Notable Moments:
  • “The unseen evil had me stuck on the toilet with my pants down and unable to speak.”
  • “But the freakiest part was that when I woke up I was face down in child's pose with my arms behind my back. My entire body was numb and cold.”
• Sabrina and Corinne discuss the common theory that paranormal entities sometimes "target" those deepening spiritual or religious practices. (08:03)
• Quote:
  • Sabrina: “There has been university debate … about demonic attacks and hauntings like this that do target people who are deeply devout and religious. Because it's a challenge.” [08:15]

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3. Victoria’s Haunted Victorian Home in England

[09:39–18:52]

• Summary: Victoria describes repeated encounters with a Victorian-era female apparition and a menacing, laughing child entity after moving into a historic house. Activity escalates to scratches, bruises, and poltergeist phenomena after sharing her story.
• Notable Moments:
  • Sabrina, on the first sighting: “We held each other's gaze for a moment, and then she moved diagonally towards the bedroom door at an inhuman speed…” [13:05]
  • Sabrina: “The laugh was accompanied by a sense of ancient dread that I could not shift from until I left the house…” [14:08]
  • Physical escalation: Footsteps, banging, and kitchen stoves activate by themselves. Victoria wakes with mysterious scratches and bruises, though she keeps her nails short.
  • Advice from the hosts: Intuition, boundary-setting, verbal affirmations, white candles, cleansing with herbs, and community support.
• Quote:
  • Corinne: “If you’re doing any renovations or changing anything … just out loud say and explain what is going on. When I started explaining what was going on with the house, it stopped.” [18:20]

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4. Kylie’s “My Boyfriend’s Sleep Paralysis Demon Tapped Into My Nightmare”

[21:42–33:18]

• Summary: Kylie details a deeply unnerving incident where, while sleeping with her boyfriend (a frequent sleep paralysis sufferer), they have interconnected nightmares featuring a demonic presence. Her boyfriend, while seemingly asleep, eerily echoes her own dream dialogue out loud.
• Notable Moments:
  • Kylie wakes paralyzed; her boyfriend, eyes open and grinning, asks “Do you think they can see us? Do you think they can hear us?”—mirroring her nightmare conversation. [30:36]
  • A strange orb of light, captured on video years earlier in a "haunted" childhood bedroom, is also submitted as supporting evidence.
• Quote:
  • Corinne: “It felt like whatever this thing was, it was responding to my nightmare. It was mocking my little cousin and me while we were trying to hide for our lives.” [31:18]

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5. Emily’s Trio: Haunted Cottage, Sleep Paralysis & Cowboys

[33:54–51:31]

• Haunted Cottage ([35:09–43:01]):
  • Emily and her family visit a friend's old cottage. Unexplained freezing temperatures, sleep disturbances, a shattered mirror, and all kitchen cabinets mysteriously left open prompt a panicked early-morning departure.
  • Creepiest detail: Next morning, “Every single cabinet, every single drawer, everything that could be opened in the kitchen was open.” [42:01]
  • At a nearby diner, a waitress recognizes the cottage’s reputation and avoids discussing it.
• Sleep Paralysis & The Evil Eye Necklace:
  • Repeated childhood sleep paralysis incidents escalate, culminating in an attack where a shadowy hand pins her and shatters her protective evil eye necklace overnight.
  • Quote: “A black shadow hand was holding down my arm… the charm was shattered into tiny pieces.” [50:57]
• Weird Cowboys in My Room:
  • A bizarre waking dream features ghostly cowboys playing cards in her bedroom; one starts to approach her, but she wills herself asleep to escape.
  • The hosts speculate on time slips and glitches, suggesting, “You were their ghost.” [52:04]

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6. Kira’s “Sleep Paralysis Demon Who Tried to Drag Me Out of Bed”

[52:20–56:28]

• Summary: At home from college, Kira experiences an episode where a pale, Ring-like woman pins her, croaks “Don’t say anything,” then violently drags her by the feet before vanishing into the basement. Kira never tells anyone—until now. She now feels dread whenever entering the basement.
• Quote:
  • Paranormal entity: “Don’t say anything.” [55:14]
• Sabrina and Corinne relate it to other real-world stories involving physical aftereffects, such as unexplained bruises and rug burns.

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7. Michelle’s “My Cat Saved Me from a Sleep Paralysis Demon” – A Positive Ending

[58:32–62:30]

• Summary: Michelle experiences attempted attack from a dark entity during sleep paralysis, but her cat Momo jumps to her side, instantly dispelling the darkness. A roommate’s perfectly timed captioned photo (“Protecting her mama”) affirms the protective role of pets.
• Quote:
  • Michelle: “My cat made me feel safe, and I was able to fall back to sleep. This was the last time I ever had sleep paralysis, and still to this day, Mo sleeps with me every night.” [61:22]
• Sabrina:
  • “I think Momo can see these entities.” [62:16]
  • Corinne: “How lucky are you to have Momo protecting her mama? So sweet.” [62:19]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Sabrina (on sleep paralysis): “Unfortunate for you guys, but amazing for us.” [02:27]
• Corinne (on religious attacks): “You become a target.” [08:03]
• Victoria (paraphrased): “This energy … doesn’t feel demonic as far as I can tell, but it’s definitely not friendly.” [15:37]
• Corinne (on cleansing): “Even just out loud, say … this is our space, it is only filled with love and light and positivity…” [17:38]
• Sabrina (on the cowboy story): “You were their ghost?” [52:04]

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Timestamps for Major Story Arcs

| Segment | Start | End | |--------------------------------------|--------|--------| | Introduction & Topic Reveal | 01:17 | 02:56 | | Angela’s Bible Sleep Paralysis | 03:08 | 07:50 | | Victoria’s Haunted Victorian House | 09:39 | 18:52 | | Kylie: Boyfriend Demon Tapping In | 21:42 | 33:18 | | Emily: Haunted Cottage + Cowboys | 33:54 | 51:31 | | Kira: Demon Drags by Feet | 52:20 | 56:28 | | Michelle: Cat Guardian – Uplifting | 58:32 | 62:30 |

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Tone & Host Commentary

• The episode balances gripping, chilling stories with moments of levity and camaraderie between Corinne and Sabrina.
• The hosts provide empathetic commentary, practical advice (setting spiritual boundaries, cleansing, using pets as protectors), and maintain a conversational, “best friend” rapport.
• They repeatedly acknowledge and validate the fear, confusion, and community around sleep paralysis stories.

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Final Thoughts & Call to Action

• Sleep paralysis is confirmed as an extremely common and unsettling phenomenon among listeners; the hosts encourage everyone to continue submitting stories (encounters of any kind) to 2girls1ghostpodcastmail.com.
• The episode closes on a positive note—pets as supernatural protectors—and expresses gratitude and solidarity to the Two Girls One Ghost community.

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If you’re new to sleep paralysis or the paranormal, this episode is a hauntingly relatable introduction, revealing both the terrifying and strangely connective power of spooky experiences. Listen at your own risk!

Transcript

[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

Very spooky.

[Corinne]

Bonjour. No.

[Sabrina]

Were you hoping to sleep well tonight.

[Corinne]

Or go to France? Because you're not going to do either.

[Sabrina]

You're not going to do either. We can prom. Well, maybe you're going to France.

[Corinne]

That's Italian.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Bonjourno, guys.

[Sabrina]

Well, you kind of like said bonjour and then no. So if you're going to France or Italy. No, you're not. I mean, maybe you are, maybe you.

[Corinne]

Are, maybe we're not.

[Sabrina]

We're not. We are going to tell you stories.

[Corinne]

Because this is a podcast called Two Girls, One Ghost. Two Girls, One Ghost.

[Sabrina]

And we are your ghostesses. I am Sabrina, that is Corinne. I did that opposite and I didn't like how it felt. This is fun. If you're watching, we have a little skeleton, half bodied skeleton, missing some limbs.

[Corinne]

Still a mystery how he became half of a person. Yeah, I sat on his hand, that's how. He's missing one hand. I broke it.

[Sabrina]

He broke his fingers. But yeah, we're here and we're gonna tell you ghost stories specifically about a topic that. Oh my God, is our inbox flooded with these emails.

[Corinne]

It's unfortunate for you guys, but amazing for us.

[Sabrina]

And it's also something I experienced for the very first time. And I don't recommend.

[Corinne]

Nope. We're talking sleep. Sleep paralysis. Sleep.

[Sabrina]

We're talking sleep. Sleep paralysis. Sleep.

[Corinne]

Sleep paralysis.

[Sabrina]

I. I did what you did with Bongiorno.

[Corinne]

Sleep. Just paralysis.

[Sabrina]

Why don't you start? Because I have a story that you'll be shocked by this because I actually picked one that's a nicer one to end on.

[Corinne]

That is a shocker.

[Sabrina]

I know. Who am I Who is she?

[Corinne]

She's changed.

[Sabrina]

I don't even know you anymore.

[Corinne]

Sex is who are you, you sicko?

[Sabrina]

It's still scary. Just some positivity in it.

[Corinne]

All right, well, I'll start with one called Something Evil Folded Me like a pretzel times two.

[Sabrina]

Oh, shit.

[Corinne]

Hi, Ghostesses and Leia. I'm a relatively loose, lucid listener. Loose, loose listener.

[Sabrina]

I'm relatively lucid when I listen.

[Corinne]

I'm a relatively new listener. But I'm already on episode 98. Everyone around me knows about your podcast because I've basically been listening for two months straight. Even in the shower.

[Sabrina]

Love that.

[Corinne]

Anyway, onto the story of two of my most horrible, horrifying nightmares.

[Sabrina]

Great.

[Corinne]

I like how she says nightmares. Even though they're definitely more waking. They border on.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

In my sophomore year of high school, I was very involved in church. I was studying to be a small group leader and wanted to know God's words so I could teach it to others properly. So I decided the only way to do this was to read the Bible from COVID to cover. I told everyone at my church of my plans and went to reading. The first night I got through a third of Genesis.

[Sabrina]

Wow.

[Corinne]

I feel like that's a lot.

[Sabrina]

That is a lot.

[Corinne]

It's like not an easy read.

[Sabrina]

No. And it's she thick. I always think about. You haven't seen this far in Gilmore Girls. Cause I've now watched it twice through. In the time that you've watched, like.

[Corinne]

Part of season one, one and a half seasons.

[Sabrina]

But Elaine Kim, her mom is like very religious, right. And there's a season where Lane is dating someone in her band. It's actually played by Adam Brody, but he's like a white. He's not a Korean man that her mom wants her to be with, but he's like, last night I read the Bible front to back. And Lane Can's mom is so impressed. She's like, I've only ever been able to do that once.

[Corinne]

I like that a lot.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Okay. So I got through a third of Genesis before going to bed. But that night, I have an odd sepia colored dream of a house that looked like mine, except my bed was in the living room. For some reason in the dream, my mom was in the kitchen cutting fruit and I was getting ready for bed in my sister's restroom. While I'm on the toilet, I felt the sudden urge to sing worship songs. I managed to get a couple words of the song out before I was hit with this sinister feeling and my voice was silenced. Stubbornly I tried to continue singing, but what came out of me was just a garbled male voice. I panicked and I tried shouting a number of phrases, including calling for Jesus to save me, but nothing worked. The unseen evil had me stuck on the toilet with my pants down and unable to speak. At my wit's end, I yelled for my mom in Chinese and was broken out of my bad dream paralysis. I guess I surprised the evil entity with my bilingual abilities. Lol. But the freakiest part was that when I woke up I was face down in child's pose with my arms behind my back. My entire body was numb and cold. It was exactly 4am and I didn't go back to bed until my mom came home from work from her night shift. I want to point out that I sleep strictly on my side or on my back. I very rarely toss and turn in my sleep, so this was an entirely unnatural position for me. There was also no reason that I shouldn't sleep.

[Sabrina]

It's an unnatural position for anyone.

[Corinne]

Yeah, there was also no reason I should have felt cold as this was summertime in Southern California. The following night I got back to reading the Bible and I finished another third of Genesis. I was scared to go to bed that night, but I felt like maybe I would be protected by the prayers of the people of my church. Unfortunately, it didn't work. That night I had a dream that a girl I wasn't very close to came to my home to get ready for a school dance. I let her in my house and as soon as I did, she began taking her clothes off in my living room. When she pulled her dress over her head, she transformed into an entirely different person. I was staring at a mottled gray skin and unfamiliar evil face. This creature then grabbed me by my wrist and turned its pointed fingernails into my palm and repeatedly scratched at my palm. Now, I don't know about you guys, but I never feel anything in my dreams but this I felt viscerally. The scratches didn't hurt, but they were really unsettling enough for my fight or flight to kick in and I gripped the entity's wrist in return and I shoved it into the kitchen where I slammed it repeatedly against my oven and range until it fell limply to the ground. I took my eyes off it for a second and when I looked back there was a battered purple frosting cake in its place. What? Once again, I woke up 4am in child's pose, a little pretzel with my body numb and cold. Needless to say, I was not Brave enough to read the Bible before bed again for many, many years. Thank you for reading this. Hope you guys aren't too creeped out from Angela.

[Sabrina]

I mean, I am creeped out, but.

[Corinne]

Just the perfect amount. And I feel like this is kind of. Sorry. To those finding God in religion and trying to dip your toes even more into it, but, like, you become a target.

[Sabrina]

Well, I feel like this is a topic of discussion amongst scholars.

[Corinne]

As religious scholars, we can tell you.

[Sabrina]

But I feel like there has been university debate or conversation about, like, demonic attacks and hauntings like this that do target people who are deeply devout and religious. Because it's a challenge. Yeah, it's a. Oh, you're about to do this. You want to, like, dip your toe in here? Well, let me try to pull you this way.

[Corinne]

I mean. And that was immediate for Angela. Like, day one of trying to read the Bible.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. I'm also curious why chose the girl that she's not that close with? I'm looking for a reason. Was there something going on with that girl? Is it just because it's someone who's, like, not that familiar? I don't know. Like, that feels like a specific choice.

[Corinne]

Or is it just like more of like a test where it's like you're going into a practice where you're going to help anyone and invite anyone into your life and give to them.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

But they might take or attack you. Or like. Like, maybe it was a warning of just, like. Because it didn't hurt her. No.

[Sabrina]

And then it also ended up not being that girl. Like, it ended up being like a mold, like, gray, scary entity. Yeah. But why did that entity choose that girl's face? That's what.

[Corinne]

I don't know.

[Sabrina]

I don't know.

[Corinne]

I don't think we ever will until Angela reads the third. Third, the book of Genesis.

[Sabrina]

I think she probably already has, just not before bed. Okay. This is not about being folded like a pretzel, but it is about a Victorian lady watching our listener, Victoria sleep.

[Corinne]

Ooh. Okay. A Victorian lady watching Victoria.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

How apropos.

[Sabrina]

Victoria sent us one email and then sent us, like, a follow up. So I'm going to read both. Hi, ghouls and girlies. My name is Victoria. I'm a fairly new listener, slowly making my way through the podcast, and I've fallen completely in love. I've always been a certified weird girl and have had lots of experiences throughout my life, none quite as intense as what I'm experiencing at this minute. Mind you, I'm fairly sensitive to the Paranormal. Although that might be wishful thinking, as I want to believe I'm sensitive. But like I said, you're definitely sensitive after you hear the story. There's no debate. Like I've said, I've had plenty of experiences throughout my life. I've heard footsteps in my mother's home. I've had sleep paralysis. I've seen things out of the corner of my eye. But things have taken a bit of a turn since my boyfriend and I moved into our first home together in January 2025. Our home is a beautiful Victorian house in a historic village in the north of England. It's a very peaceful place to live overall, which we're both grateful for. And that's also we come from fairly rowdy council estates before. So we moved into this house and I remember joking as we moved in that the house was probably haunted due to the age of it. But my boyfriend scowled at me and told me not to joke about that kind of thing. It's important to note that my boyfriend is both cautiously skeptical and terrified of the paranormal at the same time. I feel like those go together.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

At first things were pretty quiet and I started to think we had gotten away with an old house that wasn't haunted after all.

[Corinne]

But then that all changed.

[Sabrina]

The first time I saw the lady, I heard things in my house before. Noises upstairs and such that I could always brush off as the house settling or neighbors because we do have pretty thin walls. But one day I was in my kitchen and in the reflection of the French doors standing behind me in the dining room, I saw her. The reflection was incredibly detailed. A woman in Victorian era clothing standing there simply watching me. I'm used to this sort of experience where you catch a glimpse of an apparition and it disappears immediately. But no, this time this woman and I stared at each other for a good few seconds via the reflection before I turned around. And only then, only when I turned around, did she disappear. I told my boyfriend and he freaked out, begging me not to talk about it in the house because if I was being truthful, she could absolutely hear us.

[Corinne]

Ooh.

[Sabrina]

I reminded him how seriously I take the paranormal and under no circumstances would I make up a story like this, particularly one that sounded so outlandish to a non believer. Nothing happened for a while other than noises in the house, like someone was upstairs when I was alone. And now my mom, who is a full blown skeptic who believes there's a logical explanation for everything, visited once to help me with sorting some of the childhood things I had to donate. And even she heard the noises. Even she admitted that she wouldn't like to be in my house alone and couldn't explain the feeling. Damn. And then I saw the lady a second time, this time in my bedroom. I have pretty bad anxiety at night, and I wake up frequently throughout the night. On this particular night, I woke to see a shadow standing at the end of our bed. I figured I was hallucinating because I hadn't woken up properly, because I couldn't really move.

[Corinne]

Sleep rouses.

[Sabrina]

But this shadow didn't leave straight away. Instead, like when I saw her in the kitchen, we held each other's gaze for a moment, and then she moved diagonally towards the bedroom door at an inhuman speed before she was gone.

[Corinne]

I hate that. The inhuman speed. Too slow or too fast, it's too.

[Sabrina]

I'd rather it just disappear. Right? But moving.

[Corinne]

Moving, yeah, because then they can come at you.

[Sabrina]

I knew it was her. The shape of the shadow, everything. And I've seen this lady in shadow form two more times since then, both during the day, which somehow is so much scarier. But it's always been very quick. And I don't really get a bad vibe from the spirit. She just feels nosy. I think there is, however, something that does not feel great. One night about two months ago, my boyfriend and I were lying in bed just before going to sleep, having our independent scrolling time, when from the end of our bed was a clear, very loud child's laugh. We both froze. I turned very slowly to face him and whispered, is the window open? Because our bedroom faces the street, so I figured maybe a family was passing by outside, despite the fact it was the middle of the night. But he shook his head, the window's not open. I looked at him and I whispered, but you heard that, right? And this time he nodded.

[Corinne]

He had.

[Sabrina]

He suggested, maybe it's the little boy next door. But he wasn't super convinced. Sure, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. But this laugh was not muffled like it had come through the wall. It was like it was a child standing right at the foot of the bed, laughing at us. We did not see the spirit, and we haven't heard him since. But the laugh was accompanied by a sense of ancient dread that I could not shift from until I left the house to go to work the next day. Jeez, I worry about what this entity might be.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

My boyfriend suffers from night terrors and since he was a little boy, has had them. But they've gotten worse since moving into this House. He says that before he wakes up properly, he always sees me laying beside him, but as a horrific demon, not as myself. He puts it down to stress at work, but I'm not so sure. I don't know if this entity is demonic, but it does feel extremely negative. So I have no real satisfying conclusion to this, but I do have plenty of other stories. I was also once visited by a curious former worker in a 19th century factory I used to work at. And then Victoria sent a follow up, saying I had to get back in touch because ever since I sent this email, things have gotten worse. So much worse. No, I have not seen the Victorian lady since, but that laughing entity, whatever it was, has really amped up its mischief and I have no idea what to call it. This energy still doesn't feel demonic as far as I can tell, but it's definitely not friendly. The footsteps and the banging are now occurring every single night, especially when I'm home alone in the house, as if it's mocking me.

[Corinne]

I mean, this is the beginning of.

[Sabrina]

Poltergeist activity and things are starting to get physical. I've been waking up with long scratches on both of my breasts and a large bruise on one of them. It's not impossible that I could be scratching myself in sleep, but I keep my nails very short because I'm a germaphobe and I can't stand the feeling of dirt beneath them. So now my anxiety overall has increased and things came to a boiling point when I was alone in the house last night. Also, this was sent to us in November. My boyfriend is a musician and spends most nights rehearsing, so I'm often alone until quite late this night. Last night, I heard the hob turn on in the kitchen. We have an electric hob that beeps loudly when we turned on. And I heard the beep. Do you know what a hob is?

[Corinne]

That's exactly what I was doing. Electric hob.

[Sabrina]

It's like heater.

[Corinne]

It's a like burner cooktop.

[Sabrina]

Okay, so this turned on in the kitchen. It's electric and it beeps loudly when it turns on. And I heard the beep and I went into the kitchen to find it turned on. Luckily, none of the electric burners had been turned on, so there was no real risk. But it definitely felt like an escalation. And had I not gotten there as soon as I did, would the burners have turned on? So I think my boyfriend was right and I really should have avoided talking about this in the house because the second I divulged all the details. It got worse. Like, it's testing me. I'm a little anxious as we're about to bring a little shelter kitty home. And I don't want the negative energy to affect the cat. Or will the cat banish the negative entity?

[Corinne]

Oh, maybe the cat will eat it.

[Sabrina]

I'm really hopeful for some advice on how to cleanse the space and avoid any worse harm because I love this beautiful house and want to make a life here with my boyfriend and our kitty. Yours? Spookily, Victoria.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Victoria. Oh, my gosh. When was ascent?

[Sabrina]

November.

[Corinne]

Okay, so it's. It hasn't taken that long.

[Sabrina]

No. So.

[Corinne]

And it does sound like this is like the escalation path to something a lot worse. Yep.

[Sabrina]

Here's what I'll say. Victoria. I think intuition is the most important thing. So do what feels right to you. If you don't, if you feel like talking about it, divulging details is making it worse, then sure, don't talk about it anymore. But set intentions, set boundaries. Be very clear. Even, like, out loud, say, like, this is our space. It is only filled with love and light and positivity. And nothing with ill intent is welcome here. Light like a little white candle. You can cleanse it with different herbs. And then us as a community, everyone who's listening right now can send positive energy to Victoria and her beautiful Victorian home in northern England. May it be a place that is cozy, happy, and peaceful.

[Corinne]

And also, I will say, if you're doing any, like, renovations or changing anything about the rooms, maybe just out loud, say and explain, like, as if you're talking to yourself, what is going on? Because I also, when moving into this house, experienced some things that definitely could have been categorized as, like, poltergeist. Like, it was aggressive.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

As soon as I started explaining what was going on with the house, it stopped. So speak out loud, talk to yourself. That's the advice. Okay.

[Sabrina]

Otherwise, yeah, Keep us updated.

[Corinne]

Keep us updated and send us a.

[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

This is one of the Weird. Like the scariest thing is when, like people are sleeping next to each other and experience like the same thing, but in different ways.

[Corinne]

Right. It's the classic. We go back to the story all the time that was sent by that one guy who was like sleeping in bed next to his boyfriend. His boyfriend never woke up to him, like screaming, but he was levitating, floating right below the ceiling, knocking and banging and feeling the texture of the ceiling, thinking he was trapped in a coffin. But it was kind of worse. He was floating in the air, being.

[Sabrina]

Lifted up by an unseen scary entity.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Well, what's happening in this story?

[Corinne]

Good evening, beautiful ghost ladies. My name is Kylie and I honestly have no idea how I feel about this strange experience. So your insights will be very much appreciated.

[Sabrina]

Great.

[Corinne]

For context, my boyfriend and I have been together for two years now. The experience occurred when we were barely a year into our relationship, going back to my young age. I promise this is relevant to the story. My grandma used to live in a one story home with three bedrooms. Each bedroom had its own personality, you could say as she decorated every room very differently. The girls room was of course a pretty light pink with cute little flowers painted all across the walls. The boys room was zoo themed. It had elephants, tigers, lions, and you wouldn't believe it, bears too.

[Sabrina]

Oh my.

[Corinne]

Giving the room a very safari feel. Even the bedsheets matched with the room. They were leopard print and tan pillowcases. Cute statues of different animals were also scattered throughout the room. The last bedroom was the primary bedroom. And since my grandmother's room. Sorry, grandma, for typing. This was the primary bedroom. It was very much an old lady 1900s themed room. Huge bed, taller than me, needed a complete step to climb onto it. Super tall bed posts just barely grazed the ceiling. Along with pretty bed curtains that were clipped onto the bed posts. And even a small tea table that sat in front of the window with two vintage chairs.

[Sabrina]

This is a mansion. My God, how beautiful.

[Corinne]

There were absolutely not chairs we were allowed to play in under any circumstances.

[Sabrina]

Like this beautiful little tea table that you can't enjoy.

[Corinne]

Yeah, actually I know exactly what that's like because we had a.

[Sabrina]

We had a formal sitting room.

[Corinne]

No, no, we had like at the front. Like you walk in the front door of our house and there was a small bench, you think, for people to sit on. No, this was an antique and you were not allowed to sit on it. And one time, one of my friends from elementary school who like, what do we weigh in elementary School? 70 pounds. She sat on it and Broke it.

[Sabrina]

So that's a tough, tough thing with antiques. Some of them are beautiful. They're just for looking at.

[Corinne]

But also, like, don't get an antique chair and place it in a place where people would naturally want to sit.

[Sabrina]

Mom and Dad, I do think that. And also, like, I grew up with a formal living room, and we never sat in there. We weren't allowed to sit on the couch that was in there. And then my mom would, like, cover it with plastic, and it's like, what is the point of that, of having this? I know.

[Corinne]

It's like a little museum. Oh, my God.

[Sabrina]

I remember.

[Corinne]

So we had a formal living room, too, but, like, it wasn't really formal. My mom would sit in there to read, and wrinkles would lay on the couch. So it was, like, not treated very formally.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Like, I would for sure have turned it into, like, a library. Yeah.

[Corinne]

But my, like, first experience with kind of like, the crazy, like, living room and keeping, like, the. The formal living room pristine was when I met my college roommate and still one of my best friends, Brianna. Because her mom every day would vacuum the perfect lines into the carpet, and no one was allowed to step on it because you couldn't undo the vacuum lines. We as humans are crazy. She would find out we're crazy. Which is so funny because her mom is the most giving person ever. But it was like, that was her one thing that was just for her.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Everything else, she just gave, gave, gave. But don't touch her white carpet. I love that she needs it. Okay. I was about 10 or 11 years old, slowly growing up in the house, and I always remembered having just the oddest feelings there. It didn't feel evil or malicious. It just felt off. I've always been a firm believer in the afterlife and mostly terrified of it, too. So I always made sure to watch my back. In this home. I never stayed alone for too long in any one room. But the room that always gave me the strongest scary feelings was the boys room. And I never knew what it was. I never did truly experience anything huge to talk about in there, but it was just always odd, creepy. The feeling of being watched very closely and very carefully.

[Sabrina]

That room just reminds me so much of the movie Smart House. And, like, you can turn the walls into different things.

[Corinne]

Oh, different.

[Sabrina]

And I'm pretty sure, like, the animals kind of, like, come to life in one of the things.

[Corinne]

Oh, do they? I can't remember that part.

[Sabrina]

I think.

[Corinne]

Cool. Scary. Smart House was such a. That was such an early warning about AI and robots. And Disney. And you're watching Disney Channel. One year when I was 12, my little cousin and my family came from out of state to visit us. My cousin at the time was a little bit younger than me. I want to say six or seven years old. But this never stopped us from having a great time playing together. When he arrived, I was so excited to show him my very first laptop that my parents had gifted me for my birthday. I was a total Minecraft kid at the time, so we decided to have a balloon fight in the boys room and then record the whole thing. We blew up five balloons and started smacking them across the bed at one another.

[Sabrina]

This sounds so fun.

[Corinne]

And the laptop was set up at the base of the bed, showing us both going in and out of view several times.

[Sabrina]

I forgot the theme of this episode. This is just so fun.

[Corinne]

Yeah, this is so fun. Once we got bored of this, he went on to his tablet and I went to go rewatch the videos. In one of the videos in the left corner, I noticed something weird. A tiny ball of light coming out of thin air, shooting down to the floor and then suddenly disappearing again. When it flew, it had a long tail that trailed behind it. And I noted this because it was super weird, but I just left it at that. Shortly after this, my grandma moved out of that house and I kept the video of the light as it always made a good scary story for those who dared to listen to me.

[Sabrina]

Can you still have the video?

[Corinne]

It was not included in this, so Kylie did not send it. I don't know if she still has it. Now that I've explained the first half of my story, let me return to recent times where this room plays a big part.

[Sabrina]

Okay.

[Corinne]

My boyfriend had explained to me at some point when he was younger that he used to experience sleep paralysis very frequently. Said it would occur almost every night when he was in middle school and high school.

[Sabrina]

Every night.

[Corinne]

We are 24 and 26 now. He went on to explain that when this would happen, he would see a figure looming over him, pinning him down on the bed. Every single time it happened. It never spoke. It would just stare at him, watching him struggle to regain movement. Hearing this, I obviously was freaked out. But I knew for some odd reason not to be too afraid as it couldn't touch me because I refused to let it. So jokingly, I told him that he should talk to a priest. But that was the end of that conversation. During this time, my boyfriend lived in an apartment complex and I would always come over to stay with him because he Lived alone, so obviously I'd go there. One night we went to bed a little late, but the rest of our day was pretty standard. We curled up next to each other because the honeymoon phase is wild AF and you can never get enough of each other. So we snuggled up and we passed out pretty quickly. And that is when I started to have very vivid and a clear nightmare about a demon chasing me and my younger cousin in that house in the boys room. I remember my mom holding my little cousin and me telling us to run into the boys room and hide as quickly as we could because this thing was trying to kill us. I got a quick glimpse of it as I was running with my little cousin. It was very dark, dead face, gray and bruised, black eyes with blood dripping from them. The bruised and blood dripping from its mouth too. Almost like it had already eaten someone but it was still very hungry.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, because it's eating your boyfriend currently and now it wants you. Horrifying.

[Corinne]

As my cousin and I ran into the boys room, we crawled under the bed and started whispering to each other. It's gonna find us. My cousin whispered to me. I respond, I don't think it can see us. All of a sudden I wake up. I'm lying on my back, my eyes are wide open. I lie there staring at the ceiling, feeling that very same feeling I used to feel in my grandma's house. Like something is watching me very closely. And that is when I hear my boyfriend saying in a very creepy off tone voice, do you think they can see us? Do you think they can hear us? Totally freaked out, thinking I'm still dreaming. I whip my head towards him and he is face to face with me, lying on his side, eyes wide open, with a slight grin lining his mouth. I yell, who the fuck are you talking to? And then he wakes up as if I pulled him out of a dead sleep. He's looking at me so confused, saying, what the fuck? What's going on? Who are you talking to?

[Sabrina]

I love how Kylie started. I was like, I don't know how to feel about this encounter.

[Corinne]

Terrified, horrified, freaked out. He was slightly cranky because I just woken him up, but he looked at me like I had three heads. And so I quickly explained to him what he just did and he said no fucking way. I, I passed out. I didn't wake up until I heard you talking to someone. Completely and utterly freaked out. I prayed and told whatever it was never to touch me or manipulate my dreams again. I also, I also told my boyfriend that he needed to open up his Windows until whatever it was to leave immediately, as I was not going to have that thing linger around me and linger in my life at all. I do not allow negative energy like this around me, and I never will.

[Sabrina]

Hell, yeah.

[Corinne]

Oh, wait. We do have the movie. Sorry, Kylie, I said you didn't send it. You did. After this experience, my boyfriend and I were very much freaked out, and we still talk about it to this day. Neither of us can explain what happened. He says he has absolutely no memory of this at all. He only woke up when I shouted, but I saw his eyes clearly locked on my face, watching me as if it were a game to him. I will never forget the way his voice sounded either. It didn't sound like him at all, and it gave me full chills as I remember the sound coming from him. It felt like whatever this thing was, it was responding to my nightmare. It was mocking my little cousin and me while we were trying to hide for our lives. The only weird thing that has ever happened since was one night I woke up face to face with my boyfriend's fat toes in my face. Because for some reason, at some point in the night, he totally flipped around in his sleep. And neither of us know how he did that. I. I'm a very light sleeper. I always wake up when he moves or if he snores too loud, but I never once felt him leave the bed or move at all. And the bed was not very huge. We're basically pressed up against each other the entire night.

[Sabrina]

Well, maybe he was levitated, picked up and turned around.

[Corinne]

Anyways, I love your podcast and all the spooky stories. Stay spooky. Love, Kylie. Okay. And we do have the weird light video.

[Sabrina]

Okay, let's see. Oh.

[Corinne]

Oh, you see that?

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

It's so fast. It's not like it's lint or something. Like dust going through.

[Sabrina]

I wish zoom and enhance was a real thing.

[Corinne]

I know.

[Sabrina]

Interesting.

[Corinne]

And it's also from a while ago, too. So it's like, you know, it's not.

[Sabrina]

Like, the best quality. Yeah, because, like, you would watch that and you'd be like, hmm, I don't think anything of that. But, like, it is weird.

[Corinne]

And the fact that it's in the room, that was so creepy.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. And now you're living in a room with a man who's so creepy. I mean, it's shout out to your boyfriend. Wild. Your boyfriend.

[Corinne]

Big fat toes.

[Sabrina]

His big fat toes. It sounds like your boyfriend. I mean, clearly you've said that your boyfriend's been experiencing this. Like, there was a phase where he every night was having sleep paralysis. There's something following him.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Oh, and just you said it like the, the fact that the demon looks like it had already eaten someone and you're like, because it's eating your boyfriend. I hate that it's like already feeding off of him and now it's trying to feed on you too.

[Sabrina]

I do feel like, Kylie, your presence in his life is almost gonna get rid of this entity because, like, just like the boundaries and the just like, I don't have time for this energy, I think will discourage it. Knock him out. This is from our listener, Emily, and there's three stories. The Cottage We Never Returned To, Sleep Paralysis and Weird Cowboys in My Room.

[Corinne]

Oh, cowboys.

[Sabrina]

Hello, Ghostesses. I've been listening to your podcast for about three months now and I am completely hooked. I think in those three months I've listened to around 150 episodes. Personally, I haven't had too many supernatural experiences, aside from some pretty scary sleep paralysis and my old dog seeming a little too in touch with the other side. But after binging your episodes, a few memories have been unlocked and I'm going to share them with you. Okay, so two short stories are basically the extent of my really scary experiences. The Cottage We Never Returned to to preface the story, I am now 22 years old. This story happened when I was around 12 or 13. It also involves my dad, so it's also his experience. We together have pieced our memories together to tell it as accurately as we could. It was a scorching July, around 35 degrees. My brother was 9 or 10 at this time, and I were both out of school for the summer. No vacations planned. So my parents decided to take a family trip to a cottage we had never been to before. This cottage belonged to a friend of my cousin's who lived in Toronto. Her friend's parents owned the place and had offered to let both of our families stay there for a week while they were away. We immediately said yes. How fun. What could go wrong?

[Corinne]

Great times.

[Sabrina]

Spoiler this is a bad idea.

[Corinne]

Oh no.

[Sabrina]

We had never met this friend or their parents. They lived in Toronto as well as my cousin, aunt and uncle. And while we also were in Ontario, we lived about five hours away from Toronto, so we rarely saw them. Usually this cousin and their family would visit us since most of our family lived near us. Now this cottage is about a four hour drive from our house. We were all excited to try something new because we're the kind of family that camped in a trailer or we'd go take overseas trips. So a cottage was something different for us. We arrived late in the afternoon, perfectly timed with my relatives. Everyone unpacked quickly, and we rushed inside to check out our home for the week. And right away, you could tell that this cottage was old. The stairs creaked, the redwood was unpolished, and the wallpaper was really ugly. The first floor had a kitchen, living room, one bathroom, one bedroom, and upstairs was basically an attic. It had a large open space with a small bedroom on the right side of the stairs and its own bathroom. Despite the lack of rooms and bathrooms for seven people, it felt cozy and welcoming in the daylight. We were too tired that first day to really take in the atmosphere, and the first night went smoothly. No issues. My aunt and uncle slept downstairs. My parents took the upstairs bedroom, and my brother, cousin, and I all slept on air mattresses in the open space in the attic upstairs area. Again, nothing strange happened that night. Our first full day was great. We spent it swimming in the lake, exploring the woods. My parents relaxed by the dock. And after dinner that evening, we were all sitting in the living room eating, when suddenly, every single person at the table stopped at the exact same moment and looked up at one another because the entire house had suddenly gone freezing cold. It's the middle of July. The temperature outside barely dropped to 20 degrees Celsius at night. So there's no reason for it to feel that cold inside.

[Corinne]

No. And that's not a sign paranormally, everyone, Right? And I'm also trying to think, like. Like, how do you even blame that on anything else? Like what sort of natural disaster and, like, leak or something?

[Sabrina]

Even if the AC had turned off or, like, turned up, it wouldn't happen instantly.

[Corinne]

No. Yeah. And there's no, like, I can't think of, like, a chemical or like, a gas leak or something that would do that?

[Sabrina]

No.

[Corinne]

Like, there's no someone.

[Sabrina]

Try.

[Corinne]

I dare you to try to explain this away.

[Sabrina]

My uncle stood up to go check the thermostat, but the second he stood up, the temperature returned to normal. None of us were freezing cold anymore.

[Corinne]

That's bizarre.

[Sabrina]

We brushed it off and assumed it was just a random cold draft. Everyone got ready for bed. My parents went to their room, and us kids started to fall asleep in the open space. My brother and cousin were out in minutes, but I stayed up playing on my iPad for a bit longer. And that's when I started to hear what sounded like slow creaks, like footsteps coming up the stairs. At that age, I had already had occasional sleep Paralysis episodes, although I didn't know what they were. So I often got up to go check what I was seeing or what I thought I was seeing. So I figured this was the same thing again. I got up. I still heard my parents talking in their room. And I felt relieved that someone else was awake. But as I started to go down the stairs, the air started feeling heavier, thicker. The cottage was so dark and the quiet was unsettling, and my bravery disappeared. So I ran back to my spot and fell asleep almost immediately. But then my dad had his own experience. My dad is the bravest person I know, and I might be biased, but he doesn't scare easily. He's a skeptic. Even though strange things have happened to him before. Like, he lived in a house that had a pentagram painted on the door by previous owners, kids. And no matter how many times he and his family painted over it, the black paint of the pentagram kept bleeding through the new layers.

[Corinne]

That is fucked up. And that reminds me so much of. Wasn't that what happened at the house in San Francisco that I covered at one point? Or was it in la? I don't know.

[Sabrina]

The house that we talked about one time in eight years?

[Corinne]

Yeah. Yeah. There's like whole activity and bands and.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, that's just a common. I love that it's common. Okay. So my dad, he's a light sleeper, and my mom sleeps like a rock. So in this night, when I had heard the calling noise as I go to sleep, my dad, in the middle of the night, wakes up to the sound of my brother calling daddy, Daddy. Over and over. It sounded desperate. So my dad sat up, was about to get out of bed when he heard whispering, panicked whispering. It sounded like it was coming from inside the room. So he's looking around the dark, trying to find where it's coming from, when he sees my mom sitting upright beside him, eyes closed, praying quietly but intensely.

[Corinne]

Oh, my God.

[Sabrina]

Now, my mom grew up religious, but by this point, it had been at least a decade since she had gone to church or prayed, so this was completely out of character. My dad tried to gently tap her shoulder, thinking maybe she was dreaming or sleepwalking, but she didn't respond. All she did was pray faster and harder. By now, my brother's voice had stopped and all of my dad's attention was on my mom. Seconds passed and there was a loud crash. The mirror that was in the attached bathroom had literally fallen right off the wall, shattered on the floor. After that, everything was a blur. My dad laid back down, trying to convince himself it was a bad dream. The next morning, he woke up early, and as always, he checked on my mom, who's still asleep. He looked in on his kids, and we were all fine. So relieved. He thought maybe it was just a really bad dream. Until he walked into the bathroom and saw the mirror was shattered on the floor. He immediately woke everyone up, told us all to pack our bags because we were leaving.

[Corinne]

Yeah, the good call. Good call, Dad.

[Sabrina]

I like that he's not the skeptic. That's like, ignore it. Just keep going on that wasn't real. Like, he's a skeptic, where it's like, if something scary happens, like, we're not gonna sit here and find out what it was.

[Corinne]

And also, like a mirror and you have kids. Like, that's so dangerous.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. No one questioned my dad because he never panics. And so if he said, we're leaving, we listened. We packed everything up, brought it to the car, and before heading out, everyone gathered in the living room. And as we started walking to the front door, which led through the kitchen, no one was prepared for what we saw. Every single cabinet, every single drawer, everything that could be opened in the kitchen was open. We all stood there frozen. No one spoke. My dad, who would normally crack a joke, looked terrified, which made all of us even more scared. So without saying another word, we all ran outside and didn't look back. We took two separate cars and drove to a nearby diner for breakfast, where my dad then explained what happened during the night. And after seeing the kitchen, we all believed him. My brother swore he hadn't woken up the night before calling my dad. And he's never sleep talked in his life. And Even now, almost 10 years later, still has never sleep talked. My mom couldn't believe that she was praying in her sleep. She didn't remember any of it. We still think something else took over her for that short time.

[Corinne]

Jeez.

[Sabrina]

While we were at the dinner, or.

[Corinne]

Like, maybe it was like herself, but like an old part of her soul that was tapped into. Like, I have to save myself somehow.

[Sabrina]

Or even just like a protective sphere or something.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

While we were at the diner, the fart blows my mind. The waitress overheard our conversation and she asks, oh, the cottage up the road. We nodded and her face dropped. She put the coffee pot down, turned around, and never came back.

[Corinne]

What the fuck?

[Sabrina]

Another waitress came over and said, sorry. She started feeling sick. I'll be taking over. How can I help you? My dad immediately said, no, we're good. We're Leaving what? We know the first waitress knew something and we didn't want to find out what it was.

[Corinne]

Wait, no, I do, though.

[Sabrina]

I don't.

[Corinne]

What the heck?

[Sabrina]

We thanked my relatives for inviting us, got in the car and drove home. We never went back to that cottage. We never found out what really happened there. And unfortunately, some family drama has caused us to become estranged from those relatives. So we will probably never know.

[Corinne]

Damn. I'm sorry. But, like, also, maybe not, because, like, now you don't have to go back to the cottage.

[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

This week on Lipstick on the Rim, we sat down with the one and only Rachel Zo and wow, this episode is a ride. We talked about everything. Motherhood, divorce, finding herself again joining Real Housewives literally overnight. And then she said this. Can I tell you a true story in Covid? In the darkness of COVID I had a Cat eye every single day where nobody saw me. Not one soul. And when I had Covid, not even my ex husband saw me or my children. And you know what I did? I went into my bathroom. I did a black liquid liner, put on lashes, black liner in the waterline, a full lip, did my hair, and sat in my bed. And that is what I did. And. And I looked at myself and I said, you are not a well person.

[Corinne]

I said, are you fucking okay? You have 104 fever. You are like. You are like contagion right now.

[Sabrina]

If you love fashion, beauty, or bravo, this Rachel Zoe episode is a must. It's out now. And now my next story. My evil eye necklace worked.

[Corinne]

Mm.

[Sabrina]

Okay. Growing up, I had a lot of sleep paralysis episodes out of my 22 years of life. I. I'd say I've had severe insomnia for about 15 of them. So at this point, it feels almost normal and I've learned to manage it. I never really thought anything of those experiences as paranormal, but there are two of them that stand out very clearly in my memory. This first one happened when I was about 8. I had a normal bed with a frame on the floor, which will make sense later. One night I woke up and I saw my mom and my younger brother, who was about five, standing in my doorway. I always slept with my door open, so that wasn't unusual. But what was unusual is I couldn't move. My eyes were open, but my body was completely frozen. I, in my head, tried to ask, what's wrong? What's happening? But they just stood there without moving. Suddenly, I woke up, and I was able to move fully. The next morning, I asked my mom and my brother about it, but they were like, what? We never came to your room? And my brother even got scared and started crying because the idea of me seeing him while he was asleep freaked him out. Aw.

[Corinne]

Well, yeah, me too.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. After that, I begged my parents to get me a bunk bed. And I figured maybe being off the floor would stop whatever that was from happening again. It didn't.

[Corinne]

Five years later, I feel like that's worse. Like, then it can, like, creep up and you're really trapped, and it's like looking.

[Sabrina]

I know.

[Corinne]

Also, I never wanted to be on the top bunk.

[Sabrina]

As a side note, if you're hearing sounds, there's construction happening.

[Corinne]

Perpetual.

[Sabrina]

Okay. So about five years later, I had another vivid experience. I don't know if it was sleep paralysis this time. It's kind of silly now, but it terrified me. Then my bunk bed was not A regular one with a ladder and a railing. It had stairs and a short wall that blocked off part of my view when I was laying down one night, I woke up in the middle of the night, and I could actually sit up, which is why I'm not sure if it was sleep paralysis or just a very realistic dream. But I peered over the wall of my bunk, and I saw my room transformed into what looked like an old western saloon. There were three or four cowboys sitting around a table in the middle of my room, and one was sitting on the steps of my bunk bed. They had guns. They were in holsters. They were drinking, smoking, and playing cards. Like, it literally felt like I had stepped into a western movie. The funny part is, at that age, I had never seen an old western. And in Canada, our history classes definitely didn't cover things like that. When I sat up, the cowboy on my stairs looked at me and started walking up the steps towards my bed. I forced myself to fall asleep before he could get to me. Years later.

[Corinne]

That's so scary.

[Sabrina]

I know. Just close your eyes, pretend he's not here.

[Corinne]

But then also, it's like, did you fall asleep or did he get to you and you passed out from the fear or from whatever? I don't know. His effect was on you.

[Sabrina]

I feel like these cowboys were just enjoying the room.

[Corinne]

Yeah, nice updates.

[Sabrina]

Or I'm just picturing, like, you know, as a kid, you would, like, act out and, like, create little plays with your friends. Like, I'm imagining these cowboys are just, like, hanging out and they're like, let's be cowboys tonight. Like, they're not actually cowboys.

[Corinne]

These kids might enjoy us as cowboys, okay.

[Sabrina]

But years later, something happened that still makes me feel uneasy when I think about it. This is a couple years ago now. My friend went to Greece and brought me back an evil eye necklace. I didn't really know much about it, and I'm not the type to keep up with European symbolism, but I appreciated the gift and I started wearing it regularly. A few months later, I finally looked it up and learned that the evil eye charm is meant to protect you, and it's said to break once it's done. A few months after that, I've had one of the worst night's sleep of a long time. I couldn't fall asleep for hours. I'm usually a deep sleeper once I've fallen asleep. Like, I've literally slept through a tornado and I needed a bed shaker alarm clock to wake me up for work.

[Corinne]

No way.

[Sabrina]

But when I fall asleep See?

[Corinne]

Bed shaker. That almost, like, confuses me more. Cause I'm like, does that wake you up, or would that. I feel like that would almost like. I guess if it really shakes you, it jolts you. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, is that not just being rocked back to sleep, but when.

[Sabrina]

I can't fall asleep quickly, I always end up waking up in the middle of the night. So I don't remember what time I finally fell asleep, but I clearly remember waking up and it wasn't morning. My body was frozen. It felt like something was pinning me down. And for a second, I really thought someone had broken into my room. I opened my eyes, since that's all I could do. I couldn't move any other part of my body. And I looked to my right, and that's when I saw it. A black shadow hand was holding down my arm. It pressed so hard. And this hand looked human, but had a dark, smoky aura around it. And I couldn't see what it attached to. I didn't know who it belonged to, but that hand has stayed in my mind ever since. So, like always, I used my method to escape. I tried to fall back to sleep. I pretended nothing was happening, and the panic exhausted me until I fell asleep. It's a very strange method, but it works every time. When I woke up the next morning, I was shaken, but I tried to brush it off until I went to the bathroom and I noticed that evil eye necklace gone. It wasn't a delicate necklace either. It was a thick, black string that wrapped around my neck twice. And the charm attached through both loops. It never came off easily. I ran back to my room, and I found it under my pillow. The charm was shaped, shattered into tiny pieces.

[Corinne]

Oh, my God.

[Sabrina]

Completely beyond repair. And that thick string was snapped. Like something ripped it in half.

[Corinne]

Holy crap. See, like, that's because I just picture it as, like, you know, time and showering with it and, like, wear and tear. No, but that's tugged on something like that was destroyed.

[Sabrina]

Destroyed. I still tell myself that the necklace protected me. That night, I thanked my friend over and over for giving it to me. Because who knows what would have happened had I not been wearing it?

[Corinne]

Or.

[Sabrina]

Or did the entity destroy it so that it could do something worse? Sorry to put that in your mind. Thanks for reading my stories. Stay spooky. Keep up the amazing work. Emily.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Thank God you had that bracelet or necklace.

[Sabrina]

Terrifying.

[Corinne]

It is terrifying. All of your experiences, and they're all kind of really scary.

[Sabrina]

The cowboys don't mind. The cowboys because it's not like they interacted with her. And, like, the guy started climbing towards her because she woke up. Yeah, but they were just hanging out.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Doing their own thing.

[Corinne]

Coming towards her is so creepy. Like, why not just turn and say hi or wave or something?

[Sabrina]

Maybe he was confused what he was seeing.

[Corinne]

Oh. And he was like, why is that over there?

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Time glitch. They were real cowboys.

[Sabrina]

They were.

[Corinne]

You were their ghost?

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Dang.

[Sabrina]

Does that mean that she was just, like, levitating? Yeah.

[Corinne]

The time they saw a little girl levitating while they were just hanging out. Hmm. Stories your great, great grandpa cowboy used to tell.

[Sabrina]

Wild.

[Corinne]

Okay, I have a story called the Sleep Paralysis Demon who Tried to Drag Me out of Bed. And then Sabrina has promised us a nice one. Hello, lovely ghostesses. My name is Kira. Feel free to use my name. I've been listening for a few months now, and I want to say your episodes have helped me get through my first semester of vet school.

[Sabrina]

Yay.

[Corinne]

My dog. My dog, Duck. I love my dog, Duck. And I have been working through your episodes every night before bed.

[Sabrina]

I love that. It's like you and Duck together. Like, does Duck pick episodes that he wants to listen to?

[Corinne]

Oh, my God, I love that.

[Sabrina]

So cute.

[Corinne]

I'm writing to tell you about the most horrifying sleep paralysis experience I have ever had. I've had sleep paralysis a few times, but I think this one specifically is the worst. And I think about it every night as I'm trying to fall asleep.

[Sabrina]

Oh, perfect. You shouldn't do that.

[Corinne]

No, I know, but it's like the intrinsic thing where it's like the fear of it happening again, and the entity wants you to be fearing it. I was home from college for winter break, staying at my mom's house. I've never had any scary or paranormal experiences in this house before. Besides the occasional weird noise from the house settling. It's not a particularly old house. There's nothing spooky about it. It's just a normal house in the middle of Wisconsin. I was sleeping in my room, which is on the main level, separate from the other rooms of the house. And I woke up in the middle of the night unable to move. So I tried to flip over, even maybe just move my fingers, but I couldn't do anything. Suddenly, I heard someone whispering from behind me. One fact about me is I am a very heavy sleeper. I would never wake up to anyone whispering or even yelling my name in the room. Oh, man. I'm kind of envious of that.

[Sabrina]

That also Is scary in its own way.

[Corinne]

Too true.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Like you don't know if there's somewhat like an intruder or something.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

Or as I've learned having a child, I can't rely on the heavy sleeper in my partnership to wake up to a child need. In my half asleep delusion, I assumed that this creepy whispering was coming from my mom. I tried to say aloud, mom, hello. Hello. But my mom. But my words can't. Sorry. I just started laughing because I was thinking about the time. It was only a few years ago when my mom opened my bedroom door when I was home. It was the middle of the night and I was back home in Vermont. And she opened the door, but the slowest possible opening. And it was also like that door needed WD40. It creaked the entire time. So instead of just doing it fast, she just kept doing it slowly where it's going. Creak.

[Sabrina]

So scary.

[Corinne]

And I was turned away from the door so I had to like flip myself around. Ominous. So creaking.

[Sabrina]

Menacing.

[Corinne]

My words came out slurred and so quiet. I wasn't even sure if I was making any noise at all. I kept trying to speak, trying to move, but I was paralyzed. And then I felt a presence suddenly looming over my head. I was laying on my side, so I tried my best to peek up at whatever it was that I could feel. And I caught a glimpse of a pale woman with black hair. Picture the girl from the ring.

[Sabrina]

Terrifying.

[Corinne]

And she was standing over me, of course. I immediately shut my eyes super tight. I tried to scream for help. I produced some sort of gargled and slurred noises. And that is when I heard the woman say, in the creepiest voice that you could ever imagine, don't say anything.

[Sabrina]

Oh.

[Corinne]

She then stopped leaning over me and backed up. I heard her begin to walk away from my bed and towards the door. And that feeling of relief started to wash over me. Assuming she was leaving. And then I felt her turn and stop at the end of my bed. I felt a light touch on my feet, which were secured tightly under my blanket. But this offered me no protection as she suddenly yanked my feet with an unbelievable amount of force and dragged me halfway down the bed.

[Sabrina]

This is so evil because it's like doing everything that's like abusive. Don't tell anybody it's leaving and then.

[Corinne]

Coming back when you think you're safe. Just as you think you're safe, it's.

[Sabrina]

Turning around and yanking, doing the most violent thing.

[Corinne]

And also to like gently touch the feet first and then hate. She Then let go of my feet and walked out of the room. And I don't know how to explain this next part, but I could almost feel and see a vision of her walking into my basement and then disappearing.

[Sabrina]

Ew. Ew. So she lives in the basement.

[Corinne]

I must have fallen back asleep because the next memory is of me waking up in the morning. Since this experience, I have not seen anything creepy. I have not seen this entity. I have a few more episodes of sleep paralysis since, but nothing involving this woman. However, anytime I do go into the basement for any reason, I am overcome by an unusual feeling of discomfort. Thank you for listening to my story. I'll see you on Kira.

[Sabrina]

Kira, did you tell anyone about the experience? Besides us?

[Corinne]

Yeah, because. Holy.

[Sabrina]

Because she doesn't want you to. Meaning you should.

[Corinne]

Well, now. Now she's told a few things. You've outed.

[Sabrina]

A lot of. A lot of people know.

[Corinne]

Yeah, somebody's gonna know.

[Sabrina]

Hate.

[Corinne]

Yeah, hate.

[Sabrina]

Truly, just hate.

[Corinne]

I wish we had one of those, like, signs where it's like, love it.

[Sabrina]

Love it, hate it, hate it. Like you bring to go try on bridal dresses.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Yuck. Yuck.

[Sabrina]

Yuck is right.

[Corinne]

I would never wish to have that. I can't believe she just, like, yanked.

[Sabrina]

Oh, God, I hate it so much.

[Corinne]

Yeah, it does remind me of the scariest experience known to me by someone I personally know is Nikita's. I've referenced it so many times over the past eight years. But my friend Nikita had something similar happen to her. Like Kira, where she thought she was dreaming and she was being chased by this, like, monster and was caught in.

[Sabrina]

Her hallway and dragged down the whole hallway, right?

[Corinne]

Yes. So then her last memories are, like, falling to the ground, being caught by the back of her, like, by her feet, and she's being dragged down the hallway, which is, like, all rugged, and she wakes up and she's like, that was the craziest, scariest nightmare ever. Gets out of bed, rug burns down her body.

[Sabrina]

Yuck. Hate it.

[Corinne]

Yep.

[Sabrina]

Okay, well, this is scary, but it is also heartwarming. And it is from our listener, Michelle. Hey, spooky bitches. My name is Michelle. You can call me Michelle. You two are the best.

[Corinne]

Not Spooky bitch.

[Sabrina]

Well, you're spooky bitch. Michelle. I've always wanted to submit an encounter episode, but I thought that I never had an encounter until I listened to your paranormal pets.

[Corinne]

I love this.

[Sabrina]

And a memory popped up in my mind about the time I was saved by my cat Momo from a sleep paralysis demon. And I Have a photo that kind of proves it. Okay, so this is back in 2017. It was my last year of college. I was living in a dorm with some of my friends, and I had recently adopted my cat, Mo, from a shelter a few weeks prior to this event. So her and Mo, her, Mo and I were just getting to know each other. We were not supposed to have cats in the room, but I had a doctor's note. Wink, wink. No, actually, I did have a doctor's note for an emotional support animal because I was an anxious girly. So it was my birthday weekend when this happened. I must have wanted to take a nap for the festivities that night. And I never take naps. I've never been a nap person, but for some reason, I decided to take a nap that day. And I've always been a side sleeper. I never sleep in my back or any other position, Always my side. But during this nap, I had woken up in quotes, and I am staring at my tapestry on my wall, but I cannot move. And I remember feeling my body tingling. Almost like you're so anxious and your body starts vibrating or trembling. That's what it felt like. As the seconds go by, this feeling got more and more intense. And then I started to feel the air shift, as if something large was walking over to me and it was reaching for me. And then I feel like this huge hand with long fingers and long nails grab my arm, which is by my side, and it slowly starts to turn me over.

[Corinne]

Oh, fuck, no.

[Sabrina]

Like it was trying to turn my body. I was so terrified. I, with all my might, tried to move, to scream, to do anything to get myself out of this situation. And I could feel myself getting sweaty, cold sweat from my fear, when all of a sudden, I felt Mo, my cat, jump onto the bed. I felt her little baby paws walk around to my side, walk back to my feet. And as soon as I felt her walk around the bed, this thing immediately let go. The darkness disappeared, and I felt warm. I still couldn't really move at the time, so I must have fallen back to sleep or. I don't know. I was scared. And my cat made me feel safe, and I was able to fall back to sleep. But at the same time as all of this is happening, my roommate, bff, walks past my room and took a little Snapchat photo, which I've attached the timestamp and all. And for some reason, she decided to caption it protecting her mama. Hmm. She had no idea what had happened to me. I literally was still in the middle of the Nap. It was crazy. But this was the last time I ever had sleep paralysis. And still to this day, Mo sleeps with me every night.

[Corinne]

Wow.

[Sabrina]

She is my soulmate, my protector from things I cannot see. And we have been through so much together. Not only does she love me and protect me from my sleep demons, but she now protects my husband. And I will always find her napping with him too. Here are some photos of Mo and the photo of when it happened. You can share the photos of the spooky one and of Momo herself. Literally. As I finished writing this, my husband came home from work and just says, I had this random ass dream that Momo protected me from these weird monsters. Weird. Anyway, love you. See you on the other side, Michelle.

[Corinne]

That is wild. Oh my gosh. Is everyone just.

[Sabrina]

Aw.

[Corinne]

Is everyone either just so in sync with what's happening and like picking up on the energy, or is Momo just implanting the protective energy into everyone's minds? It's just like so clear, so palpable.

[Sabrina]

I think Momo can see these entities.

[Corinne]

Oh, for sure. But like the fact that everyone else is thinking that, labeling photos like that, I don't know. Dang. How lucky are you to have Momo protecting her mama? So sweet. Protecting her mama.

[Sabrina]

So cute.

[Corinne]

See, I love that.

[Sabrina]

Pleasant.

[Corinne]

A good one to end on. Unfortunately, sleep paralysis is experienced by a lot of people.

[Sabrina]

I think we have thousands of emails. It was hard to pick because there were so many.

[Corinne]

There's so.

[Sabrina]

Honestly, it was one of those things where I literally was just like, I'm just gonna pick on a random one and every random one I picked was good.

[Corinne]

Right. I did the same thing, just like, just randomly plopping.

[Sabrina]

Whereas like other times I feel like you have to like, kind of like really thoroughly like read the subject lines and like try. Right. Because like you're not.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Tag wise, not everything is perfect, but.

[Sabrina]

Nope, thousands of you have experienced sleep paralysis. Yeah. And which we're sorry.

[Corinne]

Sorry to you, but thank you for.

[Sabrina]

Emailing us and we hope you continue emailing us. So if you have any encounter sleep paralysis or not, please email it to us@2girls1ghost podcastmail.com I did just notice. I like looking into the camera. I fully blend in with the couch.

[Corinne]

Oh my gosh.

[Sabrina]

I'm a talking head.

[Corinne]

Screen.

[Sabrina]

I'm a talking head.

[Corinne]

You're talking head. Yeah, you are. Wow. Lovely.

[Sabrina]

I'm wearing all brown, matching our couch. If you want episodes one week early and ad free, join us over on Patreon. We also have bonus over there, like bonus content and wit class and campfire stories and you get a sticker. Lots of fun things.

[Corinne]

We love you. Shout out to Jamie Ryan. We also love Jamie. We love Jamie's edits and produces our podcast. Thank God for Jamie.

[Sabrina]

Yes.

[Corinne]

And also thank God for Emma La Venter who does social media. And just a lot of odd jobs around here.

[Sabrina]

All the producing necessities.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

We love you all and we will.

[Corinne]

See you on the other side.

[Sabrina]

Very spooky.