Encounters x320 - Terrifying True Ghost Stories

Summary

TWO GIRLS ONE GHOST — ENCOUNTERS x320: TERRIFYING TRUE GHOST STORIES
Sony Music Entertainment | February 26, 2026
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This installment of the Encounters series lives up to its “kitchen sink” theme — meaning no topic is off-limits. Instead of a single subject, the hosts curate an unpredictable parade of listener-submitted ghost stories, paranormal events, near-death experiences, and creepy glitches in reality. True to the Two Girls One Ghost style, Sabrina and Corinne deliver a blend of spookiness, empathy, and humor as they unpack supernatural happenings and exclaim over the many ways “the other side” seems to reach out to us.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & STORY SUMMARIES

1. Haunted Houses and Doppelgangers (Lauren’s Story)

[04:00–13:18]

• Setting & Backstory: Lauren recounts her experiences as a teen in Spokane, Washington. Coping with school bullying, she often hung out with friends Jack and Josh in Jack’s old (circa 1800s) house — a hotspot for increasingly violent paranormal activity.
• Escalating Hauntings: The house starts with unexplained noises, then escalates to objects flying and a shattered bathroom mirror.
• Basement Incident: One night in the basement, a series of electric glitches with a flip phone and a sudden burst of chilling, female, demonic laughter leaves all three friends terrified. Lauren flees into the snow, leaving her belongings behind.
• Doppelganger Revelation: Months later, Jack’s father sees a girl (identical to Lauren) in the house. This apparition doesn’t answer when spoken to, then vanishes.

“The entity presented as me. My form, my face. Was it a witch? A demon? A doppelganger? What do you think?” – Lauren ([12:10])

• Hosts’ Insight: Corinne and Sabrina revisit the phenomenon of doppelgangers and question whether the house’s haunting climaxed because of Lauren’s presence.

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2. Timeline Shifts & Near-Death Experiences (Cecily’s Story)

[16:39–34:45]

• Drowning & Forgotten Skills: As a teen, Cecily nearly drowns jumping off a bridge with friends. She claims lifelong terror of water and no memory of ever swimming. Afterward, her parents show proof of her forgotten prowess as a child swimmer, hinting at “memory glitches” or shifted timelines.
• Out-of-Body Surgery: During surgery, Cecily “floats” above her body, hearing everything happening, and returns to consciousness too quickly — unnerving the medical staff.
• Pandemic NDE (Near-Death Experience): Cecily collapses and blacks out while out shopping; she experiences a classic “tunnel and light” NDE, sees loved ones (including a daughter she hasn’t had), and is told by a woman:

“Not yet, it’s not time for you.” ([28:50])

• Aftereffects: Back in her body, Cecily describes new memory loss and the eerie sense of living in a timeline not her own.
• Hosts’ Reactions:
  Sabrina: “It’s like Cecily’s soul is just, like, not fully correctly attached to her body.” ([26:45])
  Corinne: “I would argue that there might be multiple jumps happening — constantly. Which is very disorienting.” ([31:58])

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3. Port City Paranormal & Ouija Board Adventures (Patty’s Story)

[37:44–46:28]

• San Francisco Séance: In an art school apartment, Patty and friends build an indoor tent, switch off all electronics (including breakers), and contact “Kavka” via Ouija — an entity corresponding to the 1850s Gold Rush era. Wind rushes through the tent as the session ends.
• Victoria, BC: Using a makeshift Ouija, they experience shot glasses moving and loud, ominous drumbeats in a haunted rural house.
• Seattle Graveyard: Contacting a spirit with the surname matching a recently deceased friend, Adam, amidst surrounding orbs.
• Host Reflection:
  Corinne: “Patty, I feel like you’re the common denominator here… For things to escalate so quickly.” ([46:08])
  Sabrina: “You might be a medium!” ([46:25])

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4. Sleep Talking Possession? (Blake’s “Bloody Mary” Incident)

[46:39–50:08]

• Sleep Incident: Blake, a lifelong sleep talker, shocks her boyfriend (now husband) by whispering in her sleep:

“Bloody Mary full of Grace. Teach me something not to kill.” ([47:36])
She nods to the hallway and says, “over there,” in a singsong voice.

• Aftermath: Her boyfriend, previously a skeptic, insists on an emergency cleansing of the apartment, which had already exhibited poltergeist-type activity.
• Hosts’ Take: Sabrina marvels at the blending of Blake’s peaceful dream state with her physical body delivering frightening, inexplicable messages to her partner.

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5. Podcast as a Lifesaver (Lisa’s Story)

[50:23–53:39]

• Medical Emergency: Lisa, in the ER for a medication overdose, is chatting about Two Girls One Ghost with a doctor, which keeps the doctor in the room; at that moment, Lisa crashes and codes. The doctor’s presence, thanks to their podcast conversation, is potentially lifesaving.

“It was a miracle that the doctor was there in the room with me. Because if it had happened when I was alone, who knows what would have happened?” – Lisa ([52:00])

• Blindness & the Paranormal: Lisa, who lost her sight, asks how visually impaired people experience ghosts, prompting the hosts to reflect on how most encounters don’t solely rely on vision.

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6. Aftershow: Listeners' Community & Final Thoughts

[56:22–end]

• The hosts invite more “kitchen sink” submissions and discuss the wide array of ways listeners can experience the paranormal — through sight, touch, feeling, or astral encounters.
• Sabrina shares a heartwarming story of her cat, Leia, and they both muse over the purity of animals’ companionship.
• They tease bonus content for Patreon members.

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• “My third eye flew wide the fuck open when I turned 30.” – Lauren ([04:22])
• “I have a condition called lurking.” – Sabrina ([03:30])
• “Your soul got knocked out of you, literally.” – Sabrina ([30:16])
• “It wasn’t just like his dad glanced back and was like, oh, it’s a girl, so it must be Lauren. It was like it fully looked like her.” – Corinne ([12:54])
• “If you can actually learn to jump to different timelines, that would be sick. Go somewhere that you can swim.” – Corinne ([32:54])
• “There are a lot of accidents and things happening that are causing [timeline jumps], but she’s not unconscious for them.” – Sabrina ([32:29])
• “Patty, I feel like you’re the common denominator here… You might be a medium!” – Sabrina ([46:19])
• “Bloody Mary, full of grace. Teach me something not to kill.” – Blake ([47:36])
  Sabrina: “Break up!” ([47:43])
• “Thank you guys for being there when I needed you.” – Lisa ([52:33])

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IMPORTANT TIMESTAMPS

• [04:00–13:18] — Lauren’s haunted house and doppelganger
• [16:39–34:45] — Cecily’s life-altering timeline glitch/NDE stories
• [37:44–46:28] — Patty’s port city Ouija saga
• [46:39–50:08] — Blake’s Bloody Mary sleep-talking incident
• [50:23–53:39] — Lisa’s podcast-lifesaver story
• [56:22–end] — Listener community wrap-up

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TONE AND STYLE

Corinne and Sabrina balance chilling supernatural tales with thoughtful analysis, gentle humor, and a sense of camaraderie—reassuring listeners there’s a place for their weirdest experiences. The pair validate the emotional reality of paranormal encounters while delighting in the thrill and mystery, creating a space “for people who feel like Cecily,” as Sabrina puts it, “to know you are not alone.”

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Intrigued? Submit your story, suggest a theme, or slide into their DMs. The next encounter could be yours… And as always:

Stay spooky. See you on the other side.

Transcript

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It's not. It's so far from a bob.

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It is a bob.

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It's a bob. It's the shortest you have ever had your hair. But it is. No, it is. The last time I had my hair

[B]

this short was like 2015. I remember specifically my hair.

[A]

It looks very cute. I like it.

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[A]

Oh, we should for sure.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Post recording. One day just go get ourselves a little scalp massage.

[B]

Well, it's only one room because I was like, oh, that would be so

[A]

nice to just like I'll just sit and watch you and then I'll watch you.

[B]

Yeah, we'll do it. Because I. I've always wanted to go to one of those head spas.

[A]

That is like the best thing about getting your hair done is when they. If you have a hairdresser who fully just gives you the nice massage as you're at the hair bowl.

[B]

My hairdresser when I used to live in Beacon Hill would like do my neck and like down my. Oh, my gosh. Shout out Kathleen.

[A]

Who now is craving a massage Me.

[B]

This is Two girls, one ghost. Two girls, one ghost.

[A]

And we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne. Hello, I am Sabrina. And after this episode, you might need a massage.

[B]

Okay. I'm excited for this encounters because normally for the past, like, year or so, we've been theming every single encounter. So it's like this one's dreams, this one's doppelgangers, this one's loved ones, this one's the kitchen sink, everything. So you have no idea what's gonna come.

[A]

But the Cryptid sink. Actually, there might be cryptids.

[B]

I don't know, probably.

[A]

But I liked the way that that sounded in my head. Got a nice platter for you.

[B]

Yes. And this one, shout out to Lauren because we met her at a live show.

[A]

Hey, Lauren.

[B]

And then I told her to bump her email so I could grab it, and she listened.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you for listening.

[B]

Okay. Hello, ghostesses. I cannot believe how long it's taken me to write this story to you. I've been listening for about six months now. That is not long. Some people have been listening for like eight years and still are working on the draft.

[A]

They're just lurkers in the background.

[B]

Lurkers.

[A]

Hey, I'm a. I'm a severe lurker. I have a condition called lurking.

[B]

Yeah. So I feel that same way. Like, if I don't actually know someone, I'm just like a follower on social media or whatever.

[A]

And I lurk.

[B]

I lurk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then every once in a while I get like the shot of feeling brave and I'll like, respond in like a DM or something and like, they'll ask a question. I'll be like, oh, you should do this. Or like, you would love this. And I'm like, oh. Then I started to second guess myself and I'm like, was that weird?

[A]

I will say from our perspective, I love when you guys reach out and.

[B]

Yeah, no, I never think that about anyone else, but I think that about my own interactions. Lauren found us from Morbid Shout out. Ash and Alena. My name is Lauren, but I will be changing the names in the story because I am no longer in contact with these people. Nothing bad, just part of growing up and living lives in different directions.

[A]

I would say, who do you want us to fight? We'll fight them. But I guess we don't have to.

[B]

I have so many stories, especially as my third eye flew wide the fuck open when I turned 30. Oh, my gosh, I love that.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

And let me. It's like everyone thinks about, like, 13. It's 13 going on 30. If it doesn't happen at 13, maybe it will happen.

[A]

Never too late.

[B]

Let me tell you. I was seeing a lot of crazy shit. Not just ghosts and entities, but things I never thought I believed in until I saw them with my physical eyes. Or maybe started receiving memories and also some thoughts that were not my own. But anyway, that's another email. Yes, I will be sending those in. Okay, this story is from my sophomore year of high school. I'm about to turn 31. So this was maybe 15 or 16 years ago. But in the town that I went to high school in, called Spokane, Washington. We know it, Heard of it, yeah. Growing up, I didn't have a ton of friends. I went to a private school which serviced some of the wealthier families in the area. My parents sent me there because I was pretty badly being bullied in public school. I'm sorry.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My mom was about to send me to the Waldorf, which had a class size of like 5. Cause I was being bullied so bad, and I was like, so sad. I don't want to be one of five. I might rather be bullied. So she let me stay in public school.

[A]

Five is not a lot.

[B]

I didn't have as much money as most of the other kids in school, which also affected my ability to make friends there, too. And for what it's worth, I'm fine. I wouldn't change my experience for anything. It made me tough. It pushed me to take uncomfortable risks later in life, which has led to my success and put me where I am now. So I'm very happy and I'm a bad bitch. And I'm doing much better.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Definitely better than the majority of people who bullied me growing up. Fuck them. Anyways, because I didn't have a ton of friends in private school, I hung out a lot with these two friends that I had made in public school. The public school I went to prior. We will call them Jack and Josh. Jack lived in a house built in the late 1800s in an area called South Perry District, one of the city's oldest neighborhoods. Jack had cool parents who let us hang out and pretty much do whatever we wanted. So we spent a lot of time at his place until this night. This night was the last night I ever went back to his house. Jack and Josh were telling me about some of the recent paranormal experiences they had in this house. It started with noises and the sounds of things moving around. When you're on one floor, but you hear it coming from another. Floor of the house. And then things escalated. And actually things started moving. Things started getting thrown. One night, Jack woke up to the sound of broken glass. When he went to investigate, he found a bar of soap that was originally in the shower, now in the bathroom sink. It looked like it had been thrown at the mirror above the sink, which shattered the mirror. There was mirror glass everywhere in the bathroom.

[A]

That's violent.

[B]

I know. So scary. Now, at this time, I was atheist as fuck. I did not believe in the concept of the afterlife. We lived, we died, we went into the ground. We contributed to the cycle of life. That is what I believed. How naive and silly I was back then. They told me a few stories, and I just kind of wrote them off as boys trying to scare me. We moved on from the ghost story and moved our way into the basement where they had a Jacuzzi. I know looking back as a Hyde homeowner, I'm like, what the fuck? Don't you want to avoid moisture and mold?

[A]

I mean, in theory, that does sound sick.

[B]

Yeah. It was a large basement, which was also their laundry area, A dirt bike workshop and storage. Oh, my God. Just let you be next to the dirt. How big is this basement? We brought the I home downstairs and we plugged it into the wall. I know I'm aging myself here. And then I set up the iPad and put on some tunes. Eventually, Jack realized that his phone was gone. This was a flip phone, and this is important. As we were sitting in the Jacuzzi, chatting, the music turned off, thinking, okay, this is just a glitch and I'm closest to the Ihome. I offered to get out and turn it back on, but it wasn't off. It just looked like maybe the volume had been dialed back all the way to zero. As I lifted my hand to turn it back up, the music shot to full volume, scaring the ever loving shit out of me, causing me to jump backwards, hit the edge of the jacuzzi, flipping over the side and submerging. Oh, my God.

[A]

Ow. That also sounds painful.

[B]

That's like when you watch those, like, back when they had those, like, TV shows that was all about, like, injured or, like, big fails or whatever. I feel like that would be if that was on camera. Oh, yeah, this would be that.

[A]

I feel like I would watch that. And then Whose line is it anyway? Whose line was so good?

[B]

Oh, my God. As I came up from the water, I could see Jack and Josh staring at the staircase. Immediately, the energy in the room shifted, and I felt like the room was Full of static energy. We could hear something moving around at the top of the stairs, but no one was home except for us. As I started to ask them if they were fucking with me, we all heard something, and I will never, ever forget it. It was the loudest, and I mean the loudest laughter I have ever heard. It sounded like it was coming from all angles of the room, echoing in every corner up the staircase, so you couldn't tell exactly where it was coming from. And it sounded female. It sounded demonic. It was one of the worst sounds I have ever heard. Even while typing this and remembering that sound, the hairs on the back of my neck are starting to raise up Almost immediately when we heard this cackle, I noticed Jack's phone all the way across the basement in the furthest corner, lighting up, going off, and emitting lights that his phone did not have. This was the early 2000s. It was a flip phone. It didn't have any color or anything but the monochromatic green, gray screen and black lettering. Millennials know what I'm talking about. Good old classic Motorola vibes. My eyes widened, my heart started pounding, and I threw myself into the boys because I was absolutely terrified. As they saw where my eyes went and they noticed the phone. The laughter around us started amplifying, and this time, it came from right behind us.

[A]

Ooh. It's like, literally, like, trapping them. It doesn't matter where you go. You're not safe. I'm every wheel and everywhere.

[B]

I shot out of the Jacuzzi. I ran out the basement door. I ran into the backyard. I was shaking. I was crying. I was so confused what just happened? Because truly, I cannot explain it. It was the middle of February in eastern Washington.

[A]

Freezing.

[B]

It was cold, probably like 15 degrees outside. There was snow on the ground. I was wet. I was barefoot. I didn't have any of my things because I left my keys, my wallet, and all my belongings on the first floor of the house. But I refused to go back inside. I would rather die of hypothermia. I told Jack that he needed to go get my things and that they could come with me and stay at my house if they wanted. And I'd deal with explaining two boys staying the night to my mom. In the morning, the boys went in to get my things, and they decided to stay at Josh's house down the street. So I went home. And then I never went back to that house again.

[A]

Fair.

[B]

Fast forward to the following summer. I got a call from Jack as I was visiting my family in San Diego. Jack Would many times just show up at my house and give me a call saying he was outside. So I answered his call immediately, saying, hey, Jack, I'm actually not home. I'm in San Diego. He cut me off. He said, we need to talk. I said, okay. Is everything okay?

[A]

The drama.

[B]

He goes on and asks me if I remember what happened at his house in the winter. Well, of course I remember what happened in that fucking house in the winter. Well, here's what he told me. His dad was doing laundry in the basement and heard someone coming down the stairs. He turned back to find a girl with long blonde hair and a light blue dress on. He said, hey, Lauren, I didn't know you were over. As he turned back to finish the laundry, the girl on the stairs didn't respond. So then he turned back around and she was gone.

[A]

It looked like Lauren.

[B]

Lauren. I am Lauren. The entity presented as me. My form, my face. Was it a witch? A demon? A doppelganger? What do you think? I'll never know because I never went back to that house. And unfortunately, we all did lose touch as we went different directions after high school. Stay spooky. See you on the other side, Lauren.

[A]

Well, yeah. That's an experience you'll certainly never forget.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, and to have confirmation too, from, like, an adult. Not that you need confirmation from anyone else, but, like, I feel like there's always something nice about, like, the parent in the house also having something happen because they're the ones to tell you, like, oh, it's just your imagination. Oh, it was just. It's the house settling.

[A]

But they can't deny it when they experience it too.

[B]

And it wasn't just like his dad glanced back and was like, oh, it's a girl, so it must be Lauren.

[A]

It was like it fully looked like her.

[B]

It looked like Lauren in a blue dress.

[A]

I'm interested to know how things went for Josh and Jack, like, when Lauren wasn't around, just like the family in general in that house. Cause it almost seems like it reached its pinnacle when Lauren was there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, was performing for Lauren.

[B]

Right. Although, like, her dad. Yeah. Cause it's weird. Cause her dad got a full body apparition.

[A]

But that's nothing in comparison to cackling surrounding you.

[B]

Right. Like, you would assume that. That Jack and Josh would tell Lauren, since they were still friends throughout, like, high school, if other things had happened, like, really intense things, even though she wasn't over the house.

[A]

Right. Cause he called for this.

[B]

Right. And up until this point, it was just so Lauren, it was noises around the house.

[A]

Your third eye was always begging to be opened.

[B]

Something did not like you being a part of the friend group here. Something was jealous.

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[A]

Okay, well, I have a story about near death experience. Oh, and timeline switches.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

These things trip me out.

[A]

I know. It was also hard to pick for this because we didn't have a topic and I.

[B]

Because there's so much to choose from.

[A]

There's so much to choose from. And I'm also just so naturally drawn to demons. But I tried to be. I tried to be a little bit different and keep you all on your toes today. So look, my first story is not demons.

[B]

It is a little shocking.

[A]

I know. Who is she? Okay.

[B]

Who is she?

[A]

That's a secret I'll never tell. Okay, this is from Cecily. Hello, Sabrina and Corinne. I have taken a step to email you once and twice and now I finally feel confident sharing this story. It's basically the first time I've ever shared it. I have always had memory issues, which I blame mostly on natural reasons like trauma, self preservation, et cetera. But lately it's gotten worse. I've gotten checked out multiple times and I have no problems with my head that should cause this. But the more of these experiences here that I've had, the worse my memory gets.

[B]

Oh, I don't like this because this already makes me think that the memory is not there. Not because of a memory problem or stress or whatever, but because, like, truly you're being. You're blacking out.

[A]

Your mind is being erased.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, let's go back in time. When I was around 15, I was out by the beach in harbor with a group of friends who I'll just give initials. So T, C, J, E, M and k. So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 people. So M is J's older brother. T is J's best friend. C is J's girlfriend. K is M's girlfriend. E is our mutual friend. If M wants to go to J's house and it's three miles away, I

[B]

feel like we're doing one math problem. Oh, my gosh. I never ever was able to figure that out.

[A]

Okay, so if those details are confusing, which it might be, we can always revisit that. But they are important to make some sense. So we're hanging out. J, T and M are in the water. Splashing around while K and E are changing into their suits and C and I are talking. We join E and K as they finish changing and K goes and joins the boys in the water. The rest of us stand on the bridge over a small pond like structure that exits into the open water and the harbor. We're having fun, making jokes when the guys who are in the water ask me to join the rest of them. I say no, I'm not swimming. Sorry. They all look at me weirdly. Jay asks why I'm not swimming and I explain I'm deadly afraid of water. Like any water, showers and bathtubs included, I am so afraid I will drown, no matter how unrealistic a fear it might be. Hmm.

[B]

Many lives, many masters.

[A]

Jay is laughing at me when C jabs him and E and K start trying to convince me to just dip my toes in. Just dip in. For five minutes I felt bad, but still, no, I'm terrified. So C walks up to me on the bridge and says, hey, I'm afraid as well. So what if we jump in together? Em tells me he's great at swimming, gives me some tips to foolproof swimming to the surface, etc. Etc. I mull it over and I don't know why, but for some reason I agreed. C and I stand up on the railing of the bridge holding hands and we count down together from five. We reach one and I notice that C freezes up, but I just let go of her hand and I plunge in. Yep, I jump in, holding my breath on the way in and I feel the water surround me. I open my eyes and and rather unwillingly, I try to start to swim to the top, which I can see the top thanks to the burning white sun at the top of the water's edge. I use my arms to push through the water, my legs to gain some speed, but I'm seriously stuck in place.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I start panicking internally when a voice tells me calm down, it's going to be okay. So I let the calm take over me and I know I am sinking. I see the water's surface get further and further away and suddenly I realize what's happening. I try to scream, but instead of screaming, I swallow all my air I held in in a mouthful of icky water. Finally, I accept it. I've wasted all the air I had held in and now I'm sinking and no one is coming for me.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

I feel the rocks on the bottom of the water under my feet and I feel too weak to fight I look at the surface where a big white burning light starts growing and it breaks through the surface of the water and comes towards me and I am filled with an absolute calm state of mind. I close my eyes and I'm like, okay, I'm going to die. When all of a sudden I feel the water shake violently and something grabs my arm and grabs around my waist. I get to the surface and I start spitting water out and continue as I'm being dragged onto the ground. And I slowly hear two girls screaming and two guys arguing while someone else is sobbing. I'm handed a towel by M, who is asking me a thousand different questions, trying to see if I'm actually okay. J is being scolded by the others, while E is trying to dry me off and C is crying, asking, why did you jump? Why didn't you come back up? I'm shaking, trying to understand what happened, but I can't make sense of anything. Finally I look at C, saying, I agreed to jump. And as I said before, I can't swim. I sank. I tried all I could, but I couldn't get to the surface. Oh my.

[B]

Wait. I didn't register before that she couldn't swim, but then I decided to jump. Why would you.

[A]

I thought she was just.

[B]

Why would you jump? I thought you were just a brain too. Oh my gosh. If you can't swim, don't go in the water.

[A]

In the end, T brings me home and helps me get some food and change of clothes. I calmly tell my parents, and they look at me, simply asking, well, why didn't you just swim to the top? And I explain that I can't swim. My dad shakes his head, that can't be. You were an amazing swimmer as a child. And I'm like, excuse me, dad. What? He then fetches a diploma that I apparently got when I was 5 years old from a swim team that said, great swimmer, lots of knowledge on advanced strokes, making good time every lesson, great job. And I just stared it flabbergasted because I don't even remember going to swim lessons, but apparently I did.

[B]

Well, that's so weird. Like, did they not go into the pool every summer? Like, swim in the lake? It was just, you graduate from swim lessons at five and then you never swim again. Or is this the memory?

[A]

It's like all of the memories related to swimming have disappeared from Cecily's life. I'm also so confused because I feel like there was like a weird glitch happening at the time that they jumped. Like, why didn't c jump with Cecily.

[B]

Well, I was almost thinking too, like, the sinking to the bottom, like the friends yelling and the whole reaction at the top. I actually was surprised that did happen because I was thinking that it was like reliving the past memory beneath the water of dying and drowning, and that Cecily would just come up to the top and they'd be like, wasn't that fun?

[A]

It's crazy. Okay, second story. So about three or four years after this near drowning story, I had an operation scheduled. I was under full anesthetic, so I have no clue how this happened. And I'd been in operations before where I had no issues. But this time, I felt like I was floating over my body. I was seeing the shelves, the number of nurses and doctors. I heard them talking. I heard the operating doctor ask a nurse to hand them a scalpel. I heard, suction, I need a suture right here. All of it, along with the clattering of the surgical instruments and the beeping of my heart monitor, and it traumatized me deeply. Suddenly, as I'm floating there, I felt like I was being drawn higher and higher, when all of a sudden I was jolted back into my body. The doctors, luckily done with the operation at this point, look at me with a stare that I'll never forget saying, whoa, you woke up way faster than you ever should have.

[B]

Ew. That is not what you want to hear when you're on the table.

[A]

Unfortunately, they were done. Like, could you imagine waking up mid surgery?

[B]

I mean, but like, she did. Yeah, she just wasn't fully there, but she heard it all.

[A]

It says. Turns out I was apparently about to wake up during the middle of the surgery, and they had to give me more anesthetic to stay knocked out during the surgery.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I woke up fully mentally there. And I even remember them taking out the breathing tube, which, by the way, fricking hurts. And I don't know, this is just like a out of body experience I get, but it was weird how I kept floating higher and higher. It just felt different. It almost feels like her soul registered it as her body being destroyed. Or like it was like, oh, time to leave the body because it's dying.

[B]

Yeah. It's interesting because I feel like a lot of people who have, like, medical out of body experiences, they happen during an operation, during surgery.

[A]

Well, it brings up like, where is consciousness?

[B]

It's not in your brain.

[A]

Okay, finally, this is about the time I firmly believe I almost died. It's pandemic galore. I've gotten the round at this point, I've been in isolation for about three weeks and I've been given the green light by my doctor to go out when necessary. So I had gone grocery shopping with my then boyfriend. We were in the queue when I started to get heat flashes. So I told him to go ahead and pay. I needed to go step outside to get some air. I start staggering towards the exit, but I have to stop and sit down before I actually exit by the door. I sit for a moment and I start to feel my throat close up. My body starts sweating like I'm in actual hell and my legs feel like pudding and I need fresh air or I'm going to pass out. I truly crawl on all fours out the automatic doors, around a corner where an empty spot for bike parking is placed with the fresh air. I start to feel like maybe I won't die. So I stand up, I take three steps, and then I lose complete control of my body. My eyes go black, my body starts swaying, and I feel like I'm falling upwards very, very fast. I look up and I see millions of shining stars and a bigger blob of white yellow light that it's not the sun. I knew it wasn't. I study my surroundings and I'm in this sort of tunnel, protected from the cold outside, but wearing nothing, soaring through space. Why do I feel like Cecily's soul is just, like, not full, not correctly attached to her body?

[B]

Yeah. Or just like the deaths are so present in the memory of the soul that.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[B]

It's almost like Cecily's almost like tripping in a way, like having, like, a waking trip where it's like, what's truly happening in real life. And the memory of a past trauma from a life that doesn't belong in present time is, like, blurring. And then it's becoming so confusing as to what's actually happening.

[A]

So crazy.

[B]

And what Cecily can do. Like, I can't believe she can't remember that she swam.

[A]

So I look to the sides of this tunnel and all kinds of colors are flying by. And I start to see these short clips. I see myself being almost run over at the age of 10. I see myself being bullied. I see myself falling in love with my boyfriend. I see a young adult version of myself in a hospital bed. My boyfriend and my mother and a baby. I see things that have happened, but also things that haven't yet happened. I see one with a group of people. And even though I see myself raging and crying, my being in the tunnel that's watching. It smiles as if filled with warmth about the memory. I hear myself saying, I forgive and I understand at things that I truly never remember living. I feel a hard bang on the back of my head, but it doesn't hurt. I just feel the concrete underneath me. I accept and I forgive in this tunnel and move on. But something told me I shouldn't focus on that or I'd go back. Like I shouldn't focus on the cement. I wanted to stay in this tunnel. I wanted to see it all, look at everything. So I continue to look towards the white yellow blob which has grown now three times its size. And the feeling I had was near indescribable. I wondered how I ever felt okay in my body on Earth, because this, this was home. It was warm in a way, like my energy was melting into the light. Starting with my hands, then my arms, then my feet and my hair. I saw all those I've loved that have passed on, people I feel like I knew in this life. I saw my great grandpa, my great aunt, my grandpa, my family dog, a cat, a woman I didn't know where to place. And they were all greeting me and telling me and letting me feel that they loved me unconditionally and that I was welcome, that this was home and that this was the other side. I heard laughter and I saw my brother playing with one girl who I know was my supposed to be daughter and other kids. It felt like this picture perfect family picnic. But better, more pure. Nothing could hurt us in here. And I wanted to stay here so, so bad. Like I felt peace in a way that I never knew possible. But then this woman who I couldn't place in my life but I could feel, I knew, steps in front of me and says in my ear, not yet, it's not time for you. And she pushes me, pushes me so hard down the tunnel that I feel like I'm falling 10 times faster than I was coming up. And then I was back in my body and the first thing I felt was the throbbing pain in the back of my head. I breathe in air that did not feel clean, like whatever that other place was. And I open my eyes and cry. I ask out in the open, laying there in the concrete, all alone, why couldn't I come back home? I felt cheated. And sometimes I still do. My boyfriend now comes out of the store and walks over to me. I tell him the gist of things and he's super weirded out. He's never been a big believer and he Had a look of, well, that's surely different, but what the heck did you see? He was sure that I had a concussion, which would explain the visions according to him. But the visuals started before I even hit the ground. Doctors said I was fine and that I didn't get hit hard enough to have a concussion. When I told them everything.

[B]

But your soul got knocked out of you, literally.

[A]

They didn't seem concerned. Whatever happened, I believe someone or something was trying to watch over me. I'm really confused at this. Like, was it a near death experience? Why was I called up just to be dismissed and sent back to my body despite my ex? The only person who knows about this is my mom. I've told her because ever since, even though I feel bad about missing the big blob, the warmth, and, you know, everyone on the other side, I feel like I was called up. After this experience. I have started to forget people that I grew up with. I'll meet them in public and ask my mom, who are they? I'll forget my hobbies or I'll remember wrong. Sometimes I'll have a wrong memory for a scar that I got and my mom will have to correct me and tell me I got it in a different way, but I have no memory of. So now I'm wondering, does near death experience change your memories or weaken them? Or did I switch timelines to one where not only did I swim well, but details from my childhood are different? And that's why I feel like I'm forgetting. I don't know. Thanks for creating a space where these stories can be sent in. I don't feel as frightened of what people will think or that people will think, wow, she's nuts. And if they do, that's fine. I know what I saw, I know what I heard, and I hope to learn more and let others know. If this happened to you, it happened to me too. And you were not alone. Stay Spooky from Cecily.

[B]

It's interesting because the very first story, I was thinking a lot about, like past lives and how those deaths come forward. But just like what she was saying at the very end, where it seems like a timeline switch, I would almost argue that it wasn't just a jump into a different life. I would argue that there might be multiple jumps happening.

[A]

Constantly.

[B]

Constantly. Which is very disorienting.

[A]

Very. I mean to. It's like you can't even trust yourself because everything is not lining up.

[B]

Yeah, well. And it's interesting too that like some of these things and the memories and just like Strangeness is happening as she's awake. Because I feel like a lot of times when people talk about, like, jumping to a different timeline, it's like there's a car accident or they're just asleep and then they wake up and everything is different.

[A]

I mean, there are a lot of accidents and things happening that are causing.

[B]

Yeah, but she's not unconscious for them.

[A]

I mean, kind of. She was drowning.

[B]

Well, I guess we don't know if she was unconscious, because maybe she was and then she just immediately jumped to a different.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Timeline.

[A]

She was falling. I really do believe that, like, the tethering that happens when a soul picks a body maybe just wasn't done as securely.

[B]

Yeah, you're missing a couple knots.

[A]

We need more sutures. As the surgeon said.

[B]

Let's figure out how to use this to your advantage. Right. Like, I feel like there's some really interesting control you could do. Yeah. But if you can, like, actually learn to jump to different timelines, that would be sick. Go somewhere that you can swim.

[A]

I would rather be able to control it than just be like, well, I don't know when it's going to happen next.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, that would be terrifying. And then I would also. Not to, like, create fear and anxiety, but, like, when big things happen that you're excited about in your life, part of me would be nervous, like, am I about to jump somewhere and lose this?

[A]

Yeah, well, I'm losing it.

[B]

But then you won't remember losing it either, because you won't remember that it even happened.

[A]

But it does seem like Cecily remembers something from her real or original timeline. And it's the new timeline that is like, gaslighting her to question her memories. But what I will say. So the mem, like, the feeling of the tunnel and all these memories, like, and colors and visuals going by her reminds me so much of Penny Whitbrot, the conversation we had with her.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And it also makes me think, like, think of how many things Cecily saw that hadn't yet happened, which is kind of beautiful in this way of, like, there are still these beautiful memories for you to have in this life. And when it is your time, you'll be able to go through this tunnel remembering and fondly being like, I'm so glad all of these things happened rather than seeing them but never getting to live them.

[B]

Yeah. It is interesting. Cause it's. Part of me is still like, well, are all of those things for her in this timeline now? Because she was also.

[A]

What timeline is she in?

[B]

We don't know that the being, like, watching was smiling fondly, like her version was watching with, like, fond memories of what it was. But then it's also like, what is time? Did all of these things already happen? And your soul knows it?

[A]

It's all, everything, everywhere, all at once. Who, literally, who, are we? It makes no sense.

[B]

Hot dog finger people. That's who we are.

[A]

Well, if you've had a similar experience, please email us so that we can read more of these and also let Cecily know there are others like her.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, certainly not alone. I feel like we've read a couple things, a couple stories similar, but also sometimes they get so lost on Reddit and TikTok, where people are talking about the timeline shifts and jumps and past memories are getting, like, trapped in a dream and living an entire 80 years and then waking up again and they're somewhere else. Crazy.

[A]

We should do a Reddit episode on timeline glitches.

[B]

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[B]

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[A]

We have decided between amongst the both of us that we are never going to judge your stories. Because who are we to say what you believe you experience and what you literally did experience is not true. That's not our job. We are here purely to share them.

[B]

And every once in a while, we're like, you know, just for the sake of not instilling so much fear, like there's an attempt. Like even when we experience something paranormal, it's like, can we debunk it? Yeah, but it's, it's not debunking with like it has to be debunked. It's like, what if was that one tiny grain in that whole story?

[A]

Especially if it's really scary. We try to, we try to spin it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But we, we believe.

[B]

We believe.

[A]

We believe in you.

[B]

How could we not believe? We have our own experience.

[A]

Yeah, seriously.

[B]

It's crazy. Okay. Back when I was 21, my friend got her hands on a da da da. Your favorite da da da. Ouija board. Ouija board. The first time we tried playing with a Ouija board, it was four of us art school friends in this little tiny apartment in Nob Hill in San Francisco. As creative art students, we had a large photography paper photo backdrop in the apartment. So obviously we created a little tent out of it. We turned off all the electronics. We turned the breakers off and then huddled into the tent with the Ouija board. Fingers on the little hand thingy. I asked, is there anyone out there? Nothing happened. The photographer friend definitely had a blocked energy, was not being open and was making some nervous jokes. Soon after starting, our other friend came home from his work shift, saw us in the tent and he wanted to play. He took the photographer's place in the tent and the photographer left. Starting again. Fingers on the little hand thingy. I asked, is there anyone out there? And it started moving. We all looked at each other, startled. It started slowly spelling K A V K A. I asked Kafka, the hand Franz.

[A]

Kafka, is that you? Franz spelled differently.

[B]

But the hand thingy absolutely shot over to yes. Without a doubt. We had made a connection and at this point we are all scared. We're in this little tent and we're starting to hear lots of wind bustling around the tent. But we're inside of the apartment in a completely controlled space. Closed windows, there's no chance of a draft or wind. And they turned the breakers off. So it's not like they're like air.

[A]

No, I feel like they like had a full on seance happening.

[B]

We scaredly continued, when were you born? The hand thingy shot around the board and spelled out 1852.

[A]

It's got like a wave. Augusta. Little wind in here. Like literally it just hit my face. It could be Kavka, are you here? Our heater.

[B]

But like yeah, we do have a

[A]

heater going on, but I have never felt it like that.

[B]

It was like a whoosh, maybe. Was it my breath traveled around

[A]

the air. Didn't want it. It sent it back.

[B]

Dragon's breath. My coffee breath. At this point, we were all just so scared. I didn't know what else to think. Too scared to continue. I moved the hand thingy to goodbye to close out the session. And at that exact moment, the tent ripped open and a gush of wind left the tent. She. What the fuck? We were freaked. Later, we found the date the most interesting of the experience. So if you're familiar with San Francisco history, San Francisco's Gold rush started in 1848, the year Kafka Said was in line with early settlers at the time. We shared the story with a few people and we learned that Kafka was actually a common name as well. A name I had never heard before.

[A]

Yeah. Especially spelled that way.

[B]

Yeah. Afterwards, whenever we mentioned or joked about our new ghost friend Kavka in the apartment, we would hear loud bangs and things would start falling. This was my very first Ouija board experience. And with the same group of friends.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

We did decide to do Ouija a few more times on the road. The two Canadians of the group and I traveled together to Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. I stayed with them in a rural house in the woods.

[A]

Terrifying.

[B]

Felt haunted.

[A]

Ugh.

[B]

I had weird dreams and I generally felt a presence there. The host confirmed the spooky house feels and had a few stories of some random things and things being opened or closed. So we decided, ah, let's draw a Ouija board and try again. So we drew the board and we started at night. Immediately, the shot glass, which was our improvised planchette, was floating across the board. We had made a connection.

[A]

Damn. I mean, hey, it says that your intuition of whether a place is haunted or not is very keen.

[B]

And apartment Aside from the moving shot glass, we were most surprised by what was happening around us. We heard a crazy loud drum, rhythmic beating and beating around the house. And the drum beat was loud, ominous. It was all encompassing the whole house. There was no way that someone's speaker could have been going off and making this. It didn't feel like a positive energy either. Scared shitless, we decided to say goodbye very quickly.

[A]

Well, and you're also in, like, a rural area, so it's not like you're gonna escape to a populated city easily.

[B]

Let's go walk around target like that's not gonna happen. On the same road trip, I went back down to Seattle. I stayed with a friend, and I had not played. We ju with him yet, but agreed to play. After sharing some recent thrilling adventures, I made another makeshift board. He lived down the road from the cemetery, and so naturally, we went there at night and sat in the gazebo. Is anyone out there? The shot glass started moving around, and it spelled a name. It was a while ago. I have a terrible memory, so I forget exactly what the name was that was spelled out. But we felt several orbs all around us, these glowing energies. And I have never experienced such a strong gathering of spirits. I then asked for the birth year of the person we made contact with. I then realized I had failed to write numbers down on the makeshift board. Facepalm. My friend at the moment called it quits, so we just said goodbye. While walking away, my friend told me that his friend Adam had recently died by suicide and was buried in that cemetery. He said that the name that came through the board was Adam's last name. This was an insanely heavy experience, but

[A]

it's also really beautiful.

[B]

I know one also, like, her friend not even saying anything right.

[A]

Just taking it in.

[B]

Yeah. Probably just trying to, like, comprehend what was going on and absorbing the experience

[A]

because it's, like, so fresh and sad. Damn.

[B]

I realized that we said goodbye to all of these connections really quickly, so I may not make for the best story here. However, we were way too scared to continue with any of these connections. But I sort of decided to not keep playing after hearing about the exorcist girl who was possessed via a Ouija board experience. But one thing that I realized is a connection between all of the cities that I played in. San Francisco, British Columbia, Seattle. They are all popular port towns, and port towns are usually known for being haunted. See you on the other side. Cheers. Patty.

[A]

Patty, these stories are the best stories.

[B]

Yeah. Also, Patty, I feel like you're the common denominator here. For things to escalate so quickly. Like, they say, like, two things back and forth, and then Patty's like, goodbye. But they're getting the most activity, and

[A]

it's like seance is happening. Like, the energy is shifting so wind around them.

[B]

Like, yeah.

[A]

Like, are you. You might be a medium.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I feel like you gotta keep. Not to encourage you to use a Ouija board again, but keep tapping in.

[B]

I mean, you don't have to use a Ouija board, but, like, yeah, something. I feel like there's definitely something here.

[A]

I have a story from our listener, Blake. She her. And it is called My bloody Mary, sleep talking incident.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

This is the scariest thing that's ever happened to me and I have no memory of it, so I'll set the scene. I have talked in my sleep for as long as I can remember, but it's usually not much. It's just like mumbling as I fall asleep or, you know, sometimes I laugh or scream in my sleep. And I am so sorry to my college roommates who had to suffer through that.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

But this happened around four years ago. I had been living with my then boyfriend, who is now my husband, and we had just been living together for like a couple of months. I had just started practicing witchcraft and had a number of protections on our apartment. At 3am, my boyfriend was awake due to insomnia, and he was on his phone when he hears me start to say, keep in mind, Blake is fully asleep. Bloody Mary, full of grace. Teach me something not to kill. What?

[B]

Oh, my God. Move out.

[A]

Then apparently I nodded at our hallway door. Yeah, break up. Then I nodded at our hallway door and said in a sing songy voice over there.

[B]

This is so scary.

[A]

He rightfully so shakes me awake, terrified, and tells me to immediately cleanse the home, which was a big deal because at the time he was not a big believer in the supernatural, but he was freaked. He tells me what I just said, and I was mad because he woke me up from a dream about a massive, beautiful oak tree. And I really wanted to get back to my dream.

[B]

So Blake, she was dreaming about an oak tree, but her boyfriend was getting taunted by like, a Bloody Mary loving spirit.

[A]

Yeah, Bloody Mary full of. Which is also like Mary full of grace. It's like mocking prayers, Catholic prayers. Teach me something.

[B]

Blake is like, I'll never leave. This is beautiful, lovely oak tree. Just like having a grand time. Ew. I hate that that there are two different experiences happening at the exact same time. It's not like she had a dream of something weird or, like, couldn't remember her dream about the oak tree. She was placed somewhere else.

[A]

Well, what if the oak tree is where she taps in? Like, she plugs into the, like, avatar.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. She puts her little tail.

[A]

Spiritual world. Yeah. He turned on all the lights. I cleansed, and he wouldn't let me go back until I fully did everything and stayed awake with him for about an hour. This apartment had some weird energy attached to it. Just typical things like lights turning on and off, hands touching my back, casual typical things. And I would.

[B]

I don't know that everyone would Describe that as a typical haunting.

[A]

I also would hear my boyfriend when he wasn't speaking. This never fazed me because I grew up in haunted homes, but my boyfriend had never experienced anything like it and struggled to explain what was happening. Can you imagine dating someone? You're, like, excited to finally move in with one another, and you're like, yeah, I know that she's into the paranormal and, like, whatnot. But then you move in, and all of a sudden, you're haunted.

[B]

You're super haunted. You're being touched all the time.

[A]

I didn't sign up for this.

[B]

Middle of the night interrupted by your girlfriend being possessed.

[A]

So, long story short, apparently my spooky ass didn't scare him off, and he did still decide to marry me. And now he fully believes in all things paranormal and magical.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You converted him.

[B]

He had no choice. Like, how could he experience all of that and still say that he doesn't believe?

[A]

I have no idea. I hope you find this story interesting and spooky.

[B]

Oh, yeah, certainly spooky.

[A]

Certainly. Okay. I know that we have another story for Patreon, but I do have. I wanted to end the episode on a pleasant story.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's how we save someone's life. How two girls, one ghost saved someone's life. And we've heard so many people. You guys have emailed us encounters where our audio will do something.

[B]

Yeah, it's not actually us. It's the spirit world manipulating the audio recordings of our podcast.

[A]

They're using us as a way to.

[B]

There's something about the energy of, like, the whole community and the belief in the paranormal that specifically with our podcast, I think it's easier for her spirits to manipulate. We have done nothing. The two of us sitting on the couch right now.

[A]

This story, it's on us, but it is the podcast specifically that saves a life. Okay. Okay. This is from Lisa. Hello, my favorite ghostesses. My name is Corlissa. She. Her pronouns. But since we're pals, you can just call me Lisa. Okay. Last week, I was rushed to the hospital because of an accidental overdose on prescription medications. And I got to the hospital and my vitals were okay, and I still felt fine. So I thought. And they probably also thought that I had wasted my time going there. So after the ER doctor did her assessment and explained what they were going to do, she was about to leave my room when she noticed that I was listening to your podcast, and she stops me. She starts a conversation, asking me what my favorite episode is and starts telling me what her favorite episode Is. And then she's.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, I love this. Two listeners uniting, uniting in the er.

[A]

And then she starts asking if I listen to Morbid as well. And we have a full on discussion. And as we're having this discussion, my blood pressure completely bottoms out and I coded.

[B]

Oh, my God. I was not expecting that.

[A]

It was a miracle that the doctor was there in the room with me. Because if it had happened when I was alone, who knows what would have happened? I wasn't hooked up to any machines. They wouldn't have known.

[B]

No. And having had a few ER trips in the past couple years, they leave you there alone for a long time.

[A]

Have you watched the Pit?

[B]

They're busy.

[A]

The Pit is. You would hate it.

[B]

I can't watch it.

[A]

Yeah, you would, but it's.

[B]

I don't even know what it's about.

[A]

But no, there's so much blood and so much. Yeah, but it's about like the ER and just how insane it is. It kind of is like the show 24 where they don't cut. It's like continuous.

[B]

I like 24.

[A]

Yeah, but it's in medicine. Anyway, she was still there because we were bonding over your podcast and I really think of it as a miracle. So thank you guys for being there when I needed you. Dang. Also, completely.

[B]

That was like the spirit world. Isn't that cool? Making the doctor look at your phone to register. Keep her there for a moment and

[A]

actually have her say something. Cause, like, I feel like it would have been so easy to see it and be like, oh, how fun. We listen to the same thing, but just like, move on.

[B]

Yeah. I just keep thinking about, like, if that hadn't happened. Like, what if Lisa was in her car driving home? Right.

[A]

Because they literally were about to, like, dismiss her. Yeah, it was like, oh, your vitals are okay, you're fine. Talk about intervention.

[B]

I know, geez.

[A]

Okay, last little thing. Off topic, but I have a question that's been nagging me for years now. I lost my vision seven years ago, and I keep wondering what would happen if I were to encounter a ghost? Because I can't see it if it's in front of me. So maybe I guess I could feel the presence. If I'm open enough. Have you come across anyone who is visually impaired that has encountered a ghost? And if so, how do they experience them?

[B]

Oh, that is interesting.

[A]

Thanks for all you do. And thanks for being my guardian angels in spirit. Love, Lisa.

[B]

I. Well, I'm trying to think. I don't really remember if We've read anything like that.

[A]

No. I don't know.

[B]

But at the same time I'm like, probably 85% of my experiences are not physically seeing with my eyes.

[A]

And then I also feel like some people's experiences, when they do see a visual apparition, it's like almost like the image being planted in their brain.

[B]

Yeah. That's why I think a lot of times mine is like every once in a while it'll be. I feel like when it's implanted in your brain, it's like, oh my God, there's a spirit and there's a ghost. And then every time I've like physically seen with my eyes, it takes me a beat to realize I've just seen a spirit.

[A]

Because it like darts in a vision.

[B]

Yeah. Because I immediately just assumed since I saw it with my actual eyes that it's a person.

[A]

I also feel, I guess it is a person.

[B]

It's just not a living person.

[A]

I hardly ever see it physically. Yeah, I feel like I feel the energy.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of your encounters exist in the dream world too. In the dream world, in the astral plane.

[A]

Yeah. I was thinking I haven't had. I shouldn't say that. I was just thinking it's been a long time since I've had anything happen. But then it really hasn't.

[B]

You just had sleep rouse this like

[A]

a couple months ago and then, well, this episode will come out after. But I'm about to go to a haunted hotel and do an investigation.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[A]

So stay tuned. That's why I was like, I shouldn't say this because I don't want to put that energy out there. I don't want negative things to come my way.

[B]

I would love.

[A]

No, I'm going to continue to manifest this. I would love a back massaging ghost.

[B]

Yeah, you've said that for years. It hasn't happened yet.

[A]

So I'm going to just keep saying it until one day it does.

[B]

Then I'll freak you out though.

[A]

No, not if it's like a profession. Like hour long massage.

[B]

They turn on the right music. Yeah. There's like dolphins playing in the background. The sound of waves.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They use like lavender oil.

[A]

Oh my God. This just makes me think last night, Leia. Leia's a cuddler. Like don't get me wrong, but usually she like, it's like part of routine where it's like I get in bed, she climbs onto bed, she lays on my chest, she purrs, we cuddle, whatever. And then she goes and lays at the end of the bed. Last night or this morning, she cuddled in the most precious. I was, like, shocked by it. She, like, fully came in and nuzzled into my, like, face. Herd was, like, licking me. It was.

[B]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[A]

It was the most sweet. I was like, oh, she's getting so much sweeter in her old age.

[B]

Yeah. Did you feel like the chosen one in that moment?

[A]

I was like, do not move.

[B]

Yeah, don't do anything. Don't breathe differently. Don't cough. Like, literally nothing to mess this up so it don't move a muscle. When animals get like that, it's just like, ugh.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It means so much.

[A]

It does.

[B]

Because they're so pure.

[A]

Well, thank you all for joining us today for the kitchen sink, but the

[B]

kitchen sink is not over. So if you are a Patreon member, you're gonna get one extra story today.

[A]

Bonus.

[B]

Bonus. Wow.

[A]

Look at you.

[B]

How. How lucky. Look at you.

[A]

How lucky you are that we give

[B]

you this and we will read one more story for you of someone who was haunted.

[A]

But please email us all of your encounters to two girls one ghost. Podcastmail.com if you have a specific topic that you really want us to do a theme of, like, for a future encounters episode, let us know. Put it in the comments or email it to us or DM it to us, because we like when you slide into our DMs. We love you.

[B]

Thank you to Jamie. Thank you to Emma. We love having you guys on our team. And you know that we couldn't do it without you.

[A]

We could not. And we couldn't do it without all of you either.

[B]

So thank you and we will see you on the other side.

[A]

Very spooky.

[B]

Thanks for listening.

[A]

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