Episode 325 - Ghost Flight: The Vanishing of Malaysia Flight MH370 (Part One)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Girls One Ghost

Episode: Episode 325 - Ghost Flight: The Vanishing of Malaysia Flight MH370 (Part One)
Release Date: June 8, 2025
Host/Author: Sony Music Entertainment
Hosts: Corinne Vien and Sabrina Deana-Roga

---

Introduction

In Episode 325, Ghost Flight: The Vanishing of Malaysia Flight MH370 (Part One), hosts Corinne Vien and Sabrina Deana-Roga delve into one of the most perplexing mysteries in modern aviation history—the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. Combining thorough research with their signature spooky storytelling, the episode explores the timeline, theories, and the enduring impact of the tragedy on families and the world.

---

The Flight and Its Disappearance

Departure and Initial Flight Details

At [01:00], Corinne sets the stage by describing the flight's origin and passengers:

"A two-year-old clinging to his mother's hand. A couple on their honeymoon, 20 engineers heading to Beijing for a technology conference, and a man on his very last work trip before retiring. It was routine. A red eye, clear skies, and the Boeing 777 was manned by a very experienced crew. 239 souls were on board."

Flight MH370 departed Kuala Lumpur at 12:41 am, destined for Beijing. Approximately 38 minutes into the flight, the aircraft vanished without a trace—no distress call, no radar contact, just silence.

Final Communication

At [09:44], Corinne recounts the last known communication:

"Captain Zaharie radios this in, something changes. The plane's identifying transponder stops transmitting... Flight MH370... it just vanishes."

[10:08] Sabrina adds a chilling observation:

"That's what this feels like—like someone posting something ominous before a sudden disappearance."

---

Search Efforts and Challenges

Immediate Response and Initial Search

By [02:11], Sabrina comments on the gravity of the situation:

"Very spooky."

Corinne continues to outline the frantic and disorganized search efforts initiated once the plane was confirmed missing. Multiple countries and advanced technologies were employed in a vast, yet ultimately unsuccessful, search operation.

Rough Seas and Technological Hurdles

At [35:08], Corinne describes the difficult conditions faced by search teams:

"The search occurred in the Indian Ocean, which was extremely difficult to traverse... hostile seas, waves up to 20 meters, winds are howling, there's really strong currents."

Satellite Data and the Seventh Arc

Corinne discusses the breakthrough with satellite data at [28:29]:

"Between 2:25 am and 8:19 am, seven handshakes, that's what they were called, or like pings, were exchanged between the plane and the Inmarsat satellite."

This data suggested the plane continued flying for seven hours after losing contact, ultimately veering into the southern Indian Ocean. The seventh arc became the primary search area, though it remained elusive.

---

Theories and Conspiracies

Initial Speculations and Suspicion

By [26:29], Corinne highlights public skepticism and the multitude of theories:

"How does a Boeing 777, one of the fastest, most advanced commercial jets, Simply vanish... it's a ghost flight."

Sabrina echoes the confusion, pointing out the lack of transparency and the ensuing frustrations among families and the public.

Paranormal and Unconventional Theories

The hosts touch upon fringe theories at [39:54], including:

• Unanswered Phone Calls: Some families reported that passengers' phones continued to ring post-disappearance, raising eerie questions about the plane's fate.

• Alternate Dimensions: The possibility that the plane "slipped into a tear between worlds" introduces a supernatural angle to the mystery.

Corinne hints at deeper paranormal elements linking to their podcast's theme:

"Maybe the truth isn't buried underwater at all. Maybe it slipped into a tear between worlds and is still trying to call home."

---

Emotional Impact on Families

Heartbreak and Desperation

At [17:36], Sabrina shares the emotional turmoil experienced by families:

"It's so heartbreaking to watch families begging for answers and not being met with any clarity."

Corinne emphasizes the enduring grief and the annual memorials held by families on March 8, the date the flight disappeared.

Public Reaction and Media Coverage

Corinne discusses the intense media scrutiny and public fascination, which often overshadowed the personal tragedies of the lost passengers:

"Families were vocalizing their pain, their frustration. They're saying, 'We just want the truth.'"

---

Mysterious Phone Behaviors

Ongoing Cellular Activity

At [39:54], Corinne reveals a puzzling phenomenon:

"Some of the cell phones of missing passengers continued to ring for hours, even days after their disappearance."

Sabrina expresses curiosity about the technology behind these occurrences:

"But I also feel like I have had instances where it will ring like two or three times and then go to voicemail."

Corinne teases deeper explanations to come in part two:

"All of the answers come in part two. Cliffhanger."

---

Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two

As the episode wraps up, Corinne and Sabrina reflect on the unanswered questions and set the stage for further exploration:

"In part two, we dig into the final moments of the plane's known trajectory and the theories behind the disappearance of Malaysia flight MH370."

They also share a listener-submitted ghost story, intertwining personal experiences with the podcast’s paranormal focus, hinting at the mysterious forces that may be linked to the MH370 enigma.

---

Notable Quotes

• Corinne Vien [01:00]: "A two-year-old clinging to his mother's hand... Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took off from its destination at Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am it never arrived to its destination."

• Sabrina Deana-Roga [02:11]: "Very spooky."

• Corinne Vien [10:13]: "The final words were, good night, Malaysian 370. Identifying his plane. Unbeknownst to everyone, these were the final words ever heard from MH370."

• Sabrina Deana-Roga [17:07]: "It was the biggest deal in the world and obviously so many people just vanished without a trace."

• Corinne Vien [28:54]: "They flew for nearly seven hours after going dark."

• Sabrina Deana-Roga [33:46]: "But the lack of evidence is also evidence in itself."

---

Final Thoughts

Part One of Ghost Flight provides a comprehensive overview of Flight MH370's disappearance, blending factual reporting with the hosts' unique paranormal lens. Corinne and Sabrina effectively capture the mystery, the emotional weight, and the myriad theories that keep the search for answers alive. As they tease the continuation in part two, listeners are left with an eerie sense of anticipation for the unraveling of one of aviation's greatest mysteries.

---

Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the episode's core discussions and insights.

Transcript

[Sabrina]

On WhatsApp, no one can see or hear your personal messages. Whether it's a voice call message or sending a password to WhatsApp, it's all just this. So whether you're sharing the streaming password in the family chat or trading those late night voice messages that could basically become a podcast, your personal messages stay between you, your friends and your family.

[Corinne]

No one else, not even us.

[Sabrina]

WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Summer's here and Nordstrom has everything you need for your best dress season ever. From beach days and weddings to weekend getaways in your everyday wardrobe, discover stylish options under $100 from tons of your favorite brands like Mango Skims, Princess Polly and madewell. It's easy too, with free shipping and free returns in store. Order, pickup and more. Shop today in stores [e-mail] or download the Nordstrom app.

[Corinne]

They boarded just after midnight. A two year old clinging to his mother's hand. A couple on their honeymoon, 20 engineers heading to Beijing for a technology conference, and a man on his very last work trip before retiring. It was routine. A red eye, clear skies, and the Boeing 777 was manned by a very experienced crew. 239 souls were on board. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took off from its destination at Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am it never arrived to its destination. 38 minutes into the flight, it vanished. No mayday, no distress call, no radar contact. Just gone. This is the Ghost flight, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

[Sabrina]

Very spooky.

[Corinne]

Hello, everybody.

[Sabrina]

Hello.

[Corinne]

This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

[Sabrina]

Two Girls, one ghost. And that is Corinne.

[Corinne]

Hello.

[Sabrina]

And I am Sabrina. And I'm so vain that I literally have a portrait of myself next to me.

[Corinne]

Okay. But it's not for vanity's sake. It's for the vibe and the aesthetic of the space that you're in because you created like a whiskey bar speakeasy lounge in your home.

[Sabrina]

Yes.

[Corinne]

And you obviously had to get an oil painting. I feel like that's really cool. And you inspired me. I'm like, wait, I want one of myself now.

[Sabrina]

I want us to get one for our studio. And I'm a little sick this week. Which is why, for the sake of Corinne and her family, I was like, I'm just gonna record from my whiskey room. That looks similar to our studio and we'll get the same room.

[Corinne]

Doesn't it look like we're in the same room together because we copied the wallpaper Sabrina had already picked out in her home for our office?

[Sabrina]

Yes. We should get one for our studio, the two of us. This website, actually, this company, Payne found it. They're great. They're on Etsy. They're called Portrathy Art and they have a bunch of different artists.

[Corinne]

Do you choose a picture of you or do you just send them a bunch of photos of yourself?

[Sabrina]

We send them a couple photos of us. Like there was one photo I had of me holding Leia. That's not the photo that they used for my face. This actually, this photo of my face was taken at your wedding.

[Corinne]

How?

[Sabrina]

When I took a selfie of me. The lighting was great. We'll add it in the great photo. So let's add.

[Corinne]

So speaking of vanity, we're gonna add Sabrina's selfie into the YouTube video.

[Sabrina]

We're gonna do a side by side and see how they use the photo to create.

[Corinne]

Yeah, well. And so we're recording on the two year anniversary basically of you taking that selfie.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Happy wedding anniversary. Happy selfie anniversary to me.

[Corinne]

Happy selfie anniversary to Sabrina. Congratulations on two years of an amazing selfie.

[Sabrina]

All right, this isn't about me. This isn't about me. But you probably think it is.

[Corinne]

This is about me either. This is about ghosts and paranormal and mysteries and strange phenomena. Because we are a paranormal podcast. And for this episode I decided to kind of do a two parter about a mystery that's like somewhat unsolved, kind of solved somewhere in between. But this is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which if anyone has watched the Netflix documentary, there's a three part documentary. It's so, so good. And I just feel like, not to scare people, but I feel like there's just been so much about planes in the news recently and it just got me thinking about what can happen.

[Sabrina]

What has been happening with planes and aircrafts and just travel in general is very scary. And I'm really trying to just tune it out because I do love traveling and I been on a plane like six times since everything. But I will indulge you in this episode. It is also heartbreaking and I think it's very heartbreaking. That is more than anything, the take part.

[Corinne]

Yeah, right. But it is. The reason that this fits into this podcast is because when this flight, Malaysia Airlines370 went missing, there were a ton of theories and conspiracies about what happened. We're going to go through that and there are quite a few about the paranormal. And I will also say that in this day and age, we hear a lot more because of the news and because of the social media outlets that we have.

[Sabrina]

TikTok.

[Corinne]

Yes. Things have been happening and we're getting a lot of news of terrifying events that happen in the skies. And it doesn't necessarily mean that it's happening any more than it used to be.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

All right, but let us venture into a very sad, sad, tragic tale two weeks in a row, because this is a two parter.

[Sabrina]

Before we get super sad, let me just set up something exciting for next week. I just had my wicca beginnings, like 101 class yesterday or Sunday, and we talked a lot about numerology and astrology. And I really want to start next episode with a little bit of a numerology discussion. I will read your numerology, Corinne. Okay.

[Corinne]

This is just like a general, like your life numerology, or is it specific to.

[Sabrina]

There's like four different calculations. You do. You have your life path, your expression, identity, and soul urge numbers. And there's. And I'll teach everyone how to calculate it for yourself and I'll do like an analysis for you. And truly, once I learned about it, I did it for myself. I did it for a lot of people in my life. And I was like, wow, this is spot on. It's so spot on. Yeah.

[Corinne]

Oh, my God, I'm excited. I'm excited to learn because now I'm going to do it on everybody that I know too.

[Sabrina]

Exactly. You will. And it's easier than astrology because it's like astrology has so many different elements, but numerology is more numbers and letters and then there's like easier breakdowns.

[Corinne]

Wait, one more side tangent before we begin. I learned from Aliza Kelly on her social media what planets being in retrograde means? And it's basically an illusion. Did you know that when a planet's in retrograde, it's like we see that planet as spinning backwards, but it's an optical illusion because of the way that our planet is spinning at the time that those planets are spinning. And she compared it to a. I think it was when she was on Jonathan Van Ness's podcast, but she compared it to when you're on a train and one train is going faster than the other and it looks like the other one's going backwards, but really you're just at two different speeds of travel. So she's like, when you say Mercury's in retrograde, the retrograde is actually fake. It's an optical illusion.

[Sabrina]

Interesting.

[Corinne]

Let us begin. It's a quiet midnight on March 8, 2014. Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is cruising at 35,000ft above the South China Sea, the Boeing 777 jetliner, tail number 9M MRO. I don't know if that means anything, but I wrote it down for people who are big into aviation. It was carrying 239 souls, 227 passengers and 12 crew members. Most were Chinese nationals. Others were from Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, France, the U.S. 14 countries in total, all bound for Beijing. In the cabin, the lights are dim. Many passengers are closing their eyes somewhere, snoozing away, thin blankets pulled up covering them. A few glow with reading lights. A mother reassures her child, trying to get them to sleep. A businessman reviews his notes for a meeting that is awaiting him in China. Flight attendants quietly check that seatbelts are fastened and they prepare for the overnight journey. In the cockpit, Captain Zahari Ahmad Shah and First Officer Fariq Abdul Hamid guide the aircraft so smoothly. The weather is calm. The thrum of the twin Rolls Royce engines are steady. Everything is normal, everything is routine. At 1.19am local time, Malaysia air traffic control radios in to hand off the flight to Vietnam's controllers. So basically they're passing into different airspace. And now there's another country in charge of air traffic control. And as the aircraft approaches the edge of the Malaysian airspace, Captain Sahari keys the mic and he responds in a very calm, familiar voice. Good night, Malaysian 370.

[Sabrina]

Oh.

[Corinne]

These words drift into the ether. A routine sign off, A routine night, nothing out of the ordinary.

[Sabrina]

That's a routine thing to say good night to the air, I think so.

[Corinne]

As you're like exiting one air control space, basically just like a sign off, saying like, all right, I'm exiting your lead and I'm about to hop onto another country's programming or like whatever, I.

[Sabrina]

Don'T know the terminology, it just sounds like such an ominous, especially knowing where, knowing what happens.

[Corinne]

It sounds very ominous. Yeah, but like if you think about it, if you were flying a plane or like if you were in a boat or whatever, and you're like crossing seas or whatever, you'd be like, peace out, us whatever. And then you're hello to the next person, right? It's like a sign off. So his last words were, good, Good night, Malaysian 370. Identifying his plane. Unbeknownst to everyone, these were the final words ever heard from MH370.

[Sabrina]

See, even more ominous.

[Corinne]

I know it's one of those things too where it's like when people pass away unexpectedly. I feel like there's always. Not always, but sometimes there are those really ominous things that happen a few days before or a few weeks before where someone will post something on Instagram and it almost sounds like they know that they're about to die, you know?

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

And this is. This kind of feels like that.

[Sabrina]

I mean, it also reminds me of just like that book that was written years prior to the Titanic.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

I was at crashing and sinking. And it just like makes you question things.

[Corinne]

It does. Seconds later, after Captain Zaharie radios this in, something changes. Because in an instant, the plane's identifying transponder stops transmitting. So on the radar screens in Kuala Lumpur, which is the airport that they took off from, and in Ho Chi Minh City, there is this blip labeled as MH370, where they're tracking the plane as it goes through their airspaces. And this blip just vanishes, Gone. Which means the transponder on the plane, the thing that is able to send signals, has somehow shut off or something's happening to it. So air traffic controllers in Vietnam await a contact because they just signed off in Malaysia. And so now they should be saying, hello, Vietnam, Malaysian 370. But that contact never comes. The flight is silent. There's no distress call, no radio message, just absolute silence. The Boeing 777, one of the most advanced passenger jets in the world, has seemingly disappeared without a trace, not even an hour into its flight. Back on the ground in Kuala Lumpur's control center, there is this watch supervisor and he's looking at the clock. It's been quite a few minutes since MH370's last check in. There's repeated calls to the aircraft. They're asking where they are, if everything's okay. Everything's going unanswered. So now by 1:30am Concern is mounting, right, because they haven't gotten any contact back. And it's been an hour. An experienced crew is not responding. Captain Zahari has so much experience, so there should be no reason for him to not understand these handoffs and what to say. He's done these flights a million times. And radar technicians, they switched to the primary radar. So they were like, okay, something's going on with our new technology that we use. So let's use these old fashioned raw blips. And they hear something. There's this unidentified echo, which is presumed to be coming from flight MH370, but where it's coming from would indicate that this plane has turned sharply off course. So on the screen, the target swings westward in a bold, unexpected arc, flying back across. I'm probably going to mispronounce this melee peninsula. And the controllers and military radar operators are all watching in confusion as this aircraft that should be heading north towards China, towards Beijing, is now going west. So in the complete opposite direction. Within the cabin, passengers probably felt a little bit of a shift. But, I mean, like, I would never know that a plane is going off course if I were a passenger. And also, it was nighttime, like, and you're going across a huge ocean, so if there is movement, it's very unlikely. Unless someone was watching. Like, the screens on the back of.

[Sabrina]

The seats, I was just gonna say, because those show the flight path and it shows where the plane currently is. But my thing is, is that real time updated, or is it just tracking the path? Like, would it be able to show you that the plane turned left and started going this way instead?

[Corinne]

Right. This is the mystery, because it's like, what were people experiencing on board right when this happened? Like, did they know? Or were the screens shut off somehow? Were they not working? Did someone intentionally turn them off?

[Sabrina]

And again, I know this episode is sad, so this is another tragic thing that I'm gonna bring up, but if you've gone to the 911 memorial in New York City, where they play the phone calls and voicemails and stuff, the last contact people on the planes sent to loved ones and family members, it's so heartbreaking because in some ways, at least, those people were able to communicate in a way, in their final moments.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And that we have.

[Corinne]

They knew what was happening, too.

[Sabrina]

Some awareness of what they were experiencing. But in this case, like, we'll never know.

[Corinne]

Maybe one day, but to date, we do not.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Over the next hour, the aircraft veered off course, continuing northwest towards the Andaman Sea. And any attempt to reach the cockpit went unanswered. The plane slipped from Malaysian radar at 12:22am about 200 nautical miles northwest of Penang island in the dark of night. And then nothing. Completely gone. No radar signals.

[Sabrina]

How long was the flight supposed to be?

[Corinne]

The planned duration was 5 hours and 34 minutes.

[Sabrina]

Okay, and this is like, what, an hour into the flight?

[Corinne]

This is like just about two hours. Yeah. They started losing contact at 38 minutes, but then they used other technology to track what they thought was the flight, which lasted about two hours.

[Sabrina]

Geez.

[Corinne]

So at first, controllers assumed that there was a technical glitch, which I feel like I would assume that too, where you're like, oh, there's something wrong in the radar. And, like, the team. Because the plane seemed to be flying at the correct Altitude steady, calmly. So I think I would also probably be like, oh, there must be something weird in the. Yeah, like some tech issue where they're being shown like the wrong path to fly.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

But as the minutes stretch to hours, panic really starts to set in now. And Vietnam reports that the plane never entered its airspace at all. By sunrise, officials initiate a full scale emergency response. Search and rescue teams begin combing the South China Sea. But the There is nothing. No wreckage, no debris, no oil slick, nothing.

[Sabrina]

I mean, I remember when this happened and like everyone was following it live and like they were scanning the ocean in like the last place that the plane had made contact.

[Corinne]

Right? Yeah. And even to date, I feel like there's still like every year there's something that comes up in the news, like some new information, something was found, something is said about the plane. But I remember too, it was like the biggest deal in the world and obviously so many people just vanished without a trace. It's tragic. And the families were obviously extremely involved in trying to figure out what happened. And when you kind of find out how they were told, it is very upsetting.

[Sabrina]

Oh no. Put us in a box.

[Corinne]

Go ahead. That just gives us something to break out of the because the next generation 2025 GMC terrain elevation is raising the standard of what comes standard. As far as expectations go, why meet.

[Sabrina]

Them when you can shatter them?

[Corinne]

What we choose to challenge, we challenge completely.

[Sabrina]

We are professional grade.

[Corinne]

Visit gmc.com to learn more.

[Sabrina]

If your dog could talk, I bet they would be begging for Ollie because I know my brother's dog Jackson is obsessed with Ollie and does like the full body tail wag, super excited little hops. That is the Ollie effect. Ollie delivers clean, fresh nutrition in five drool worthy flavors. It's made in US kitchens with highest quality human grade ingredients. And Ollie's foods contain no fillers, no preservatives, just real food.

[Corinne]

Healthier food means healthier pup. More energy, shinier coats, better poops, more excitement at meal times. And with the five protein packed recipes like fresh beef with sweet potatoes or fresh turkey with blueberries, even the pickiest little eaters cannot resist it. Fill out this 30 second quiz. They'll create a customized meal plan based on your pup's weight, activity level and other health info. And for first timers, Ollie will send out your pup's first box with two weeks worth of meals, a free storage container for mess free serving, and a guide on how to gradually switch them over to their new diet.

[Sabrina]

You can customize your plan. Ollie offers three Meal plans to choose from. And Ollie fresh dog food that comes with an unlimited routine health screenings so you can get your pup on track to living their healthiest, happiest life. Dogs deserve the best, and that means fresh, healthy food. Head to ollie.com TGOG tell them about your dog and use code TGOG to get 60% off your welcome kit when you subscribe today. Plus, they offer a happiness guarantee on the first box, so if you're not completely satisfied, you'll get your money back. That's O l l I e.com TGOG and enter code TGOG to get 60% off your first box.

[Corinne]

So, back in Beijing, families begin arriving at the airport. So this is like six, seven hours after the plane has taken off. And they're expecting to greet their loved ones at 6:30am but the plane doesn't arrive. The monitors that are supposed to tell you what's happening with the plane. Despite hours having passed and the airlines and officials knowing that this plane is missing, the monitors just say delayed. So these families are sitting here waiting, waiting, waiting. The monitor still says delayed. Waiting, waiting, waiting. The monitor still says delayed. Confusion then turns to dread because Malaysia airline officials then make an announcement at 7:24am so an hour after this aircraft was supposed to arrive, where everyone's seeing on the monitor that it's delayed, that in fact the plane was not delayed. Flight MH370 is actually missing.

[Sabrina]

And I'm sure people were already, like, theorizing something had gone wrong. Because when a flight is delayed, I mean, you can look up online a flight number, right? And it will.

[Corinne]

That's what I was just thinking. Like, I always look it up when I'm picking someone up. I track a plane. I don't rely on them.

[Sabrina]

It tells you it took off at this time. So it's like, okay, well, it took off. So what's the delay? And is it still in the air? What's happening? You know, that would be the first thing I did is look it up.

[Corinne]

Right? Me too. So grief and panic is now sweeping through the crowd of people. Family members are crying out. People are collapsing to the floors. People shout at the airline staff, demanding answers. And then rumors start to swirl in the terminal. Some say the plane had electrical failure and landed at a remote airfield. Others fear a catastrophic crash into the sea. And there's just, I feel like, Sabrina, you probably remember this too, because, like, news crews arrived and they were filming these families that were kept in these waiting areas for hours and hours and hours and hours. And people were like begging for answers and it was just like, it was so horrible to watch.

[Sabrina]

I mean this happened recently with the DC flight and I mean, I don't know if you saw this, but like the news reporter literally talk to a guy who, he got a text from his partner who was on the flight saying about to land and is basically like talking to this person, this who just lost their loved one and doesn't have like a complete story and is like, so you got a text. Like it was just so there was no humanity. It was all about getting the story and not caring about the feelings of this person at all.

[Corinne]

Oh my God. It is really hard because it's like obviously like the news people want to report on it, but like so much of it's so invasive.

[Sabrina]

Yes.

[Corinne]

When it comes to stuff like this.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

So in Kuala Lumpur, the site where Malaysia Airlines370 took off, stunned airline executives scrambled to understand how this state of the art aircraft could simply vanish. Search and rescue is not even activated until 5:30am so that's like four hours plus after this plane went missing. And this was due to delays and miscommunication. So like people just, I guess didn't know or like maybe just didn't want to accept that the plane had been missing.

[Sabrina]

Well also the timing of it crossing from Malaysia to Vietnam, like it would confusing, right? Be like, well who's, who's supposed to send search and rescue team? Like where did the miscommunication happen?

[Corinne]

And that's exactly it. Because there are so many countries involved based on the different airspaces. And also just like all the theories coming in, it is a very complicated case when it comes to searching for this plane because not knowing where it went, but later finding out the plane actually did fly for seven hours. It did involve a lot of different countries, a lot of different politics, a lot of different conspiracies. And it made the search, and still today makes the search quite difficult.

[Sabrina]

Right?

[Corinne]

By the time the sun rose, the great mystery in modern aviation, which some say is the greatest mystery in modern aviation, had begun. So the early search for the plane is frantic. It's extremely disorganized. Dozens of aircraft and ships from multiple countries scour the waters of Vietnam and Malaysia. Reports of floating debris and oil slicks flood in, but all of them turn out to be false. None of them are either accurate or from this plane.

[Sabrina]

And I just remember everyone talking about the show Lost and comparing it to that. Like there's all these conspiracies, like did it just like blip into another universe or. And I know that that's not what happened, but I just remember the conspiracy theorists coming up with all these years.

[Corinne]

So many people wanted to believe that it did land right on a remote island, a remote airstrip.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

So meanwhile, confusion spread in Malaysia's command centers. Conflicting information, missed radar data, delays in Shipp sharing key intelligence. Like you were saying, Sabrina, there's different countries, there's different organizations and all of them trying to share with each other. It created some confusion. Some countries were reluctant to share what they knew or what they didn't know because also like sharing that was basically exposing their own technology and tracking capabilities. So it kind of opened up themselves to, you know, certain risks when it comes to safety and intelligence and whatnot. But then a week after the plane vanished, Malaysian officials reveal a game changing detail. Military radar had actually tracked the plane when it went dark. The flight MH370 had turned west, flown back across Malaysia, passed over the Strait of Myakka and disappeared into the Andaman Sea. It flew for over an hour off course with no transponder and no communication. So I did kind of allude to this in the beginning, but basically like when the flight first went missing, air traffic control only had, even with their like old blip radar, they only had so much information and then it disappeared and then basically another few hours was picked up from military radar.

[Sabrina]

Interesting.

[Corinne]

But this wasn't revealed for like a few weeks. Malaysia's authorities said that they weren't sure what they were seeing and critics accused them of actually covering things up because it took so long to come out with this information. And for days the world watched as one of the largest multinational search efforts in history unfolded with over 30 countries joining in the hunt for MH370.

[Sabrina]

I mean I do understand to some regard withholding some information because they were confused by it as well. And they, I'm sure they were hoping that there would be a discovery of the plane and more answers. And when they realized that they weren't going to get it, they were like, well we have to come out with this information.

[Corinne]

Well, and two, like we'll go into it. Part two is really gonna have all of the conspiracies and the theories. But you brought up 9 11, like this is something that was a huge consideration in this, which is like what happened? Was this a terrorist attack? Did this involve some sort of cyber hijacking or like in person hijacking? And so I'm sure part of it was not due to a cover up, but like Trying to figure out if there are other dangers and other people at play, other countries, other organizations, terrorism. They didn't know what they were dealing with.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Search planes logged thousands of hours scanning this giant empty ocean. Ships crisscrossed waters on both sides of the Malay Peninsula. And every few hours seemed to bring a new lead. A satellite image of possible debris here, or an oil rig workers report of a fireball in the sky over there. But again, all of them proved false. And I remember all of these things coming up in the news too, where it's like this piece of debris or this, and people are like taking pictures and comparing things and satellite images and. Yeah, no, it never really turned out to be anything. So not a single piece of flight, MH370, was found in the Southeast Asian Sea at this time. And that is when the satellite company Inmarsat stepped in. Engineers reviewing satellite data discovered something strange. MH370's onboard systems, specifically its satellite data unit, was still active long after it vanished from radar. So this was another confusing piece because it's like if there was something intentionally done on board to turn off radio signals and divert the plane, why would you only turn off certain tracking systems, but not all of them? If that's even possible? I don't know.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

So between 2:25am and 8:19am, seven handshakes, that's what they were called, or like pings, were exchanged between the plane and the Inmarsat satellite. So this data from the satellite and where it pings, it doesn't reveal the plane's exact location, but it does prove one thing beyond a doubt, and that is that this plane flew for nearly seven hours after going dark.

[Sabrina]

Okay, I did not know this.

[Corinne]

Again, the flight was supposed to be five and a half.

[Sabrina]

It flew for seven more hours.

[Corinne]

No, it was seven hours total. So one could presume it flew until it ran out of fuel.

[Sabrina]

I did not know that.

[Corinne]

Inmarset's engineers analyze the Doppler shift in the pings and produce this result. They say the plane flew either north towards Central Asia or south into the Indian Ocean. Completely opposite spaces to search. And for seven hours of time. That basically makes the search impossible.

[Sabrina]

And this is also coming out like a week plus afterwards, which makes a search even more difficult because they've been searching one specific area. But if it's five plus more hours in multiple different directions, that makes the search even more difficult.

[Corinne]

Yeah, and it doesn't even take into consideration the drifts in the ocean and where things could be pulled if it did crash. Okay. So after cross checking with military radar, the northern path is ruled out because the military did track it going south. So they were like, okay, it would make no sense for it to go south and then to go north. Especially if none of the other countries like Vietnam picked up on their radars, this plant coming into their space.

[Sabrina]

Right?

[Corinne]

So the final handshake at 8:19am places MH370 somewhere along what's now called the seventh arc. So there are a bunch of kind of like arcs and like maps made in search for MH370. And the seventh arc is this vast curvature in the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia, which is where most of the search occurred. After this discovery, I should say, right. By now, families are growing desperate. Some believe their loved ones may still be alive. The plane had to have landed somewhere, right? Similar to, like, lost or. Others accused the airline and the government of lying in Beijing, families staged protests and one group stormed a press conference, screaming things like, why don't you tell us the truth? We what else are you hiding? Just really questioning what was going on because it seemed like no one had the answers. And every time an answer was produced, there was something else coming out that was conflicting with that answer. So it did seem really suspicious the whole time.

[Sabrina]

And I feel like on a smaller scale, this is something that airlines still do. And it is something that I struggle with. Like when a flight is delayed, why isn't there more transparency or if a flight's going to be canceled? I feel like they wait until the last second to tell you. And it's like they knew. They knew before this. They knew that the pilot and the crew were going past their, you know, allowed allotted time.

[Corinne]

Right.

[Sabrina]

Why not communicate with your passengers?

[Corinne]

I guess the confusing thing in this case is like they didn't know. They don't know.

[Sabrina]

Yes, yes.

[Corinne]

They barely know anything. They're trying to figure it out, right? So these loved ones are vocalizing their pain, their frustration. They're saying, hey, we're not looking for miracles here. We just want the truth. You need to give us some information. You need to be more transparent. They deserve it. Answers. And families were also not the only ones seeking answers. Because by now, the story of MH370 had gripped the world. News sites worldwide had picked up the stories. We were watching, we were reading, and everyone was asking, how does a Boeing 777, one of the fastest, most advanced commercial jets, Simply vanish in 2024 with all the technology that was in place, no trace, no wreckage, no explanation. And yet the satellite pings say the plane flew on for seven hours across some of the most remote ocean on Earth. There was no radio, no transponder, no distress call, no passengers sending texts. Nothing. It was a ghost flight. Families are told the heartbreaking news. Their loved ones are presumed lost somewhere in the vast expanse of rolling gray seas, far from any land, most likely so far from any available airstrips to land on. And many refused to believe it. The idea that the plane could fly for hours in the wrong direction without anyone knowing it just felt so inconceivable and so unlikely. And it's like, how does that happen? Especially when you're flying into different airspaces. You would think if there's some weird unidentified craft, right? Because it wasn't. It's like normal signals and pings weren't picking up. If there's an unidentified craft, you would think, especially such a giant aircraft, that militaries would send out planes to go look, right?

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

But that is what the data showed. And Malaysian officials, citing the inmarsat analysis, later concluded that it was beyond reasonable doubt that MH370 went down in the Indian Ocean with no survivors. So now everyone's told, we don't know where your loved ones are. We don't really know where the plane is, but they're dead.

[Sabrina]

Right? Which is a very difficult thing to say to people when you don't have evidence. But the lack of evidence is also evidence in itself. Like, there's been no sightings, no communication, no evidence to indicate that people are okay or alive. So the only alternative is that, yeah, they've perished, which is so sad.

[Corinne]

With a Venmo debit card, you can Venmo more than just your friends.

[Sabrina]

You can use your balance in so many ways. You can Venmo everything. Need gas? You can Venmo this.

[Corinne]

How about snacks?

[Sabrina]

You can Venmo that.

[Corinne]

Your favorite band's merch. You can Venmo this or their next show.

[Sabrina]

You can Venmo that. Visit Venmo Me Debit to learn more. You can Venmo this or you can Venmo that. Yo this. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp bank and a pursuant to license.

[Corinne]

By Mastercard International, Inc. Card may be used everywhere. MasterCard is accepted.

[Sabrina]

Venmo purchase restrictions apply. This episode is brought to you by State Farm.

[Corinne]

Knowing you could be saving money for.

[Sabrina]

The things you really want is a great feeling. Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with a personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state.

[Corinne]

Investigators now face a chilling possibility that the disappearance was not an accident. That someone, either the pilot or an intruder, may have deliberately disabled communications and steered the aircraft off course for seven hours. But who and why? A team of international experts began reconstructing a timeline. And while they did that, Australian Transport Safety Bureau launched an underwater search. And the search occurred in the Indian Ocean, which was extremely difficult, just like to traverse in and of itself because it's really remote, there's hostile seas, waves up to 20 meters, winds are howling, there's really strong currents. Like, how are you ever gonna find something? So for weeks and then months, the international team combed through 120,000 square kilometers of ocean floor, the area the size of Pennsylvania, using state of the art sonar, submersible drones and imaging equipment. Which my one question is, like, how does that even work? Because, like, what if you search one area and then what if debris did drift into the area you just searched, but like now you're not searching there? You said that it's gone, there's nothing there. I think there's a lot of math involved that I can't do.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

So the deep seabed there is very rugged, it's unchartered. And search vessels battled mechanical breakdowns, dangerous weather. It was just like very much not an easy search to begin with. And then there were all these extra challenges that made it difficult for the equipment to even work. But they did find things in the search. Shipwrecks from centuries past and other really cool historical things. But they did not find Malaysia flight.

[Sabrina]

MH370 to just reflect on the cool aspect of this, finding old shipwrecks and just the ocean. One, I think is the largest graveyard. Two is like a treasure trove. Truly, the amount of history hidden beneath the ocean is probably insurmountable. And I just think about archaeologists and all these people finding treasure. When I was in Peru, like the Inca stuff and all of the pottery from civilizations pre Inca and in B.C. but what's in the ocean, right?

[Corinne]

And they found so much. And think about how many shipwrecks and people have been lost at sea, ships lost at sea, especially before we had any of these track. I feel like I'm probably conflating data here, but in my mind, all of the historical stories of ship voyages, it was like one in three ships just like, like never returned.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. And think about how many carcasses and prehistoric creatures whose bones are just like beneath the ocean.

[Corinne]

Yeah. That is really interesting. And I do wonder if there's kind of like bog bodies, how there's certain conditions that allow preservation, if there are any areas in the sea that maybe are hiding that where there are these, like, prehistoric carcasses, like dinosaurs and stuff, that their bodies are preserved. Because otherwise the ocean and the minerals and the bacteria and creatures like, you know, things don't last that long. Everything's pretty recycled.

[Sabrina]

But the bones wouldn't decay, right? I don't think.

[Corinne]

Wouldn't they?

[Sabrina]

I don't know.

[Corinne]

So still, despite there being any evidence of what happened to flight MH370 families refused to give up the search.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Every year on March 8, they hold memorials. They light candles, they share stories. They ask the world to keep looking, because until the plane is found, the story is not over. Theories arose about a murder, suicide plot, hijackers, military coverups. And some questioned whether the plane was abducted by a ufo, if it entered a time slip, if it entered another dimension. Because how does a plane go so far off course with no contact and seemingly no one on board noticing? For the loved ones of the missing passengers, there remained a bit of hope. And there was something that happened within those first few days that the plane was missing that made them question whether the plane was missing at all. Desperate and distraught, loved ones placed call after call to their family members phones, praying for an answer. And oddly, some of those calls went through what the cell phones of the missing passengers on this missing flight rang a few times before disconnecting. Multiple families later reported that the cell phones of missing passengers continued to ring for hours, for even days after their disappearance.

[Sabrina]

Okay, so they never got answered, but they rang.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

As opposed to when a phone is off or dead, it goes straight to voicemail.

[Corinne]

Right, but this would indicate that the phones were. They felt it indicated the phones were on because it would ring a few times.

[Sabrina]

But I've also. I feel like I have had instances where it will ring like two or three times and then go to voicemail. I'm just curious what the technology is or like, what the reasoning behind it is.

[Corinne]

Well, I'll tell you what the reasoning claimed to be in part two.

[Sabrina]

Oh, okay, Gotta wait, gotta wait. Sorry.

[Corinne]

All of the answers come in part two. Cliffhanger. But for days after the disappearance, some of these cell phones of the missing passengers continued to ring. And there was a journalist from the China Daily who even dialed one of the numbers of the missing passenger. And it rang and rang and rang, but no one answered. So people were asking, is this a glitch? Were the phones still powered and apparently reachable? And if the plane crashed, why were the phones ringing at all? Where were the people aboard missing flight MH370 and why wasn't anyone saying what was really going on? Because maybe the truth isn't buried underwater at all. Maybe it slipped into a tear between worlds and is still trying to call home. In part two, we dig into the final moments of the plane's known trajectory and. And the theories behind the disappearance of Malaysia flight MH370. And next week is a long one.

[Sabrina]

Because there's a lot, ah, this. It's just so heartbreaking and I mean that's the only way to address this. It's. It's so heartbreaking and I feel for these families and loved ones and I can't imagine the pain, the confusion, the desire for answers, the heartache and the feelings of hope that they wanted to hold on to and.

[Corinne]

Right.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, it's heartbreaking.

[Corinne]

I know it is. And it's also so confusing too because I guess like just walking away from part one, my mind is like, okay, well, the plane crashed. But then in part two, when we go into the theories and the conspiracies and some of the things that were talked about, you're like, oh my God, there really are so many possibilities with what could have happened.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

And because there's. We're lacking so much evidence.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

A lot of these things kind of have a chance of being true or like in your mind, it's like, who's to say? Right. Exactly. And again, if anyone's watched that Netflix three part special, it is really interesting because they do go into some of these theories, especially with the hijacking and all of that sort of stuff. And they play out show kind of what would have to happen, where someone would have to be and how they would have to like come out of a compartment or who they would have to face. Like all of these things that would have to go perfectly. Right. And everyone's turning their heads and asleep and not looking and ignoring this or that and that and that for certain things to happen. And it just seems like every theory seems both improbable. Improbable.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

And it's like everyone's a suspect. Every country is a suspect.

[Sabrina]

Like until we actually have hard evidence, anything is possible. And we should look at anything is possible. All options and. Or possibilities. Damn. Well, I didn't pick a Story about a plane crash. Because I knew. Well, one, we don't really have that many. And two, I wanted to do something a little bit lighter.

[Corinne]

Great. Although I will say we have one. I know story about a plane crash, but we have not. It's only on Patreon, but we read it, like, very early edited on one of our Patreon episodes. But it does include a, like, very convincing ghost photo attached to it.

[Sabrina]

Wait, we read that on the regular feed, did we? Yeah, we read that on our main feed, and then we reread it on Patreon. But, yes, I always think about that one. If you go to our Instagram and go to the highlight reel ghost photos, I believe the photo is in there if you're curious what we're talking about. But for now, I'm gonna read a story about us haunting someone while they were on an airplane.

[Corinne]

Oh, that's cool.

[Sabrina]

Okay, so this is from our listener Raquel, and it is called I Thought a Plane Flight would Save me from Sven. Da da da. I was wrong. Hello, Corinne and Sabrina.

[Corinne]

Hello.

[Sabrina]

Longtime listener, first time ghost story submitter. So a few years ago, my best friend got me into your podcast, and I've since made a fan out of my husband, who has then gotten a few of his co workers into Two Girls, One ghost as well. We hope we make the triangle proud. You really do.

[Corinne]

That's so cool.

[Sabrina]

Pat on the back for all of you. Raquel said, I'm typically a few weeks behind in my listening, so I first heard the news of Corinne's floating candle flames on Instagram, and I knew that encounters 151 and the nuns are possessed episodes were causing some serious activity. So I decided to finally listen to those episodes during a plane flight, because somehow I thought ghosts couldn't track me if I was going extremely fast in the air. Well, I was wrong.

[Corinne]

This is a science experiment, and you proved your hypothesis wrong. So congratulations on science.

[Sabrina]

Yes, and congratulations to Sven defying physics. I guess the paranormal already does defy the physics we understand and know. So, yeah, so I finished both episodes just fine, and we were about to start descending into our destination. I travel a lot for work, and this was a work trip. So my plan was to head to a hotel after the flight landed. But before we start descending, I see my backpack, which is under the seat in front of me, deflate out of nowhere, like someone pushed in the side of it with their foot. Odd, I thought. But if that's the extent of activity I get from these episodes. All right, not bad. Fast forward to I get to my hotel room. It's about 8pm When I finally check in and get settled. I'm in the hotel bathroom, about to brush my teeth and head to bed because I had a work meeting in the morning. My phone is securely lying on the counter beside me in the middle of the counter near the sink, when suddenly my phone shoots off the counter, flying to the bathroom floor. Rude. I exclaim. And then I try to rationalize what happened.

[Corinne]

And also, it's expensive if you broke that.

[Sabrina]

I know, dear spirits, but what a way to get your attention. I try to rationalize what happened by checking for some type of angle or slant on the counter that would cause it to fall off. But no, I think Sven got me. Also thing to note, I was on the top floor and as I got settled into bed every 30 minutes or so I heard what sounded like footsteps above my room. But I'm on the top floor so now I'm getting spooked. I turned the TV and lights on and I slept with them both on that night and barely got any sleep in the morning. Exhausted, I proclaimed I do not have time for this as I prepared for my important work meeting. So I must have closed myself off because after I said that, all of the activity stopped.

[Corinne]

Interesting.

[Sabrina]

Thank you for all that you do. You two are amazing. See you on the other side, Raquel.

[Corinne]

Okay, this email kind of reminded me of questions I have about, I guess like our podcast and the hauntings involved because we don't know when an episode is going to cause hauntings. And it is so interesting because it does seem to be like there are very specific episodes that a large number of listeners do experience stuff. And we find out after the fact from people emailing us, commenting us. Sometimes we experience stuff ourselves when we record that episode, like with the Flame from October a few years ago. But sometimes we don't experience anything and we just tell our story, post it, and then everyone else is experiencing things. But it does make me curious how much of those experiences are Sven haunting. Like a new listener being like, ooh, people are expecting this, let me perform. Or actually something darker that's attached to the story or just feeding off the fear of people hearing those stories, or.

[Sabrina]

Someone'S own guardian being like, hey, I don't think you should listen to this episode. Let me try to scare you off of it.

[Corinne]

Or spiritual censorship.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, spiritual censorship. That's the other mystery of the paranormal is very, very rarely do we get answers. We actually we should do a we are haunted episode again, because the amount stories. So send us your email. Just in general, send us your emails about any paranormal encounter, any weird ufo, cryptid, anything odd, supernatural and strange. But especially send them to us if you have had an encounter while listening to our podcast because of our podcast that you credit to Sven. Or maybe it's like the PTD Peggy the Doll episodes that have haunted you. Just send them to us because we'll do a whole place, whole encounters.

[Corinne]

And make sure you put your like keywords into your email too. Because we theme all of our episodes, all of our encounters. And just because we covered something before does not mean we won't cover it again.

[Sabrina]

Follow us on social media if you want episodes one week early and ad free plus bonus content. Join us on Patreon.

[Corinne]

And if you want to help us out and get sucked into the triangle, join the pyramid scheme. It's very easy. We require almost nothing of you except for you to rate and review and to tell everyone else about the podcast. That helps immensely. And and also just for every podcast you listen to that will help the creators of those shows be more discoverable. So do it for everyone you like or don't like and do it for us. Just do it for all and do it for us or else fen will haunt you.

[Sabrina]

Dun dun dun. And thank you to our editor and producer Jamie Ryan. We're so grateful for all that you do and thank you to all of you for listening and we well see.

[Corinne]

You on the other side.

[Sabrina]

Very spooky.