Episode 359 - Haunted Read House Hotel & Overnight Stay with Meredith Stedman

Summary

Two Girls One Ghost

Episode 359 – Haunted Reed House Hotel & Overnight Stay with Meredith Stedman
Release Date: February 8, 2026
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
Guest: Meredith Stedman (Rattled and Shook Podcast)

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Episode Overview

In this special and immersive episode, Corinne broadcasts live from the infamous Room 311 at the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, TN—considered one of the most haunted rooms in America. Sabrina joins remotely as Corinne, accompanied by guest Meredith Stedman, recounts the deeply layered and chilling history of the hotel, their own overnight experiences, and a series of paranormal investigations. The episode explores themes of history, haunted hospitality, gender, tragedy, and respectful ghost hunting, all woven with the signature candor, humor, and goosebump-inducing storytelling of "Two Girls One Ghost."

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Historical & Paranormal Deep Dive: The Reed House Hotel’s layered history—Cherokee land, Civil War drama, mobsters, and Prohibition—set against the tragedy and hauntings of Room 311.
• First-Hand Ghost Investigation: Corinne & Meredith’s real-time experiences (and what spooked them).
• Celebrating Friendship Over Romance: Released around Valentine’s Day, the episode pushes a playful “galentine’s”/anti-love narrative (“ghoul friends over jilted lovers”).
• Paranormal Respect: How a ghost’s energy can shift based on the attitudes and respect shown by investigators.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Haunted Podcast, Haunted Hotel

• Corinne is on location in Room 311, ominously hinting, “might make an appearance in the episode.”
  [01:31] Corinne: “We are in the room where it happened.”

• The only nights the room is available are Friday the 13th (and select October weekends), heightening the mystique and rarity.

2. Hotel & Land History

(Extensive historical context, [06:55-18:46])

• Indigenous roots: Land originally inhabited by the Cherokee ("Chattanoogi" = "rock rising point"), poignant recollections of the Trail of Tears and its tragedies.
• Civil War drama: The Crutchfield House (predecessor to the Reed House), political duels, and the hotel’s direct connection to debates over Tennessee’s secession and Confederate history.
• Burned & Rebuilt: Crutchfield House destroyed by fire (1867), leading to Reed House’s construction (1872).

Memorable Quote

[13:53] Corinne: “This land is undoubtedly stained by that history, and I think it’s important context for understanding this hotel.”

• Reed Family Ownership: Family’s deep ties, hands-on management, celebrations, and deaths (John & Caroline Reed)
• Modernization and Opulence: Hotel gets art deco facelift in 1926, reemerges as a luxurious, “fireproof,” 10-story marvel frequented by celebrities (Winston Churchill, Al Capone).

3. Room 311—Origins of the Haunting

• Legend of Annalisa Netherly ([39:59]):
  • In the 1920s, Annalisa’s husband allegedly kills her in jealousy while she’s in the bathtub.
  • Stories conflicted and records hush-hushed, but paranormal experiences are consistent: water turning on, flickering lights, somber feelings, apparitions.
  • Door to the room “sealed itself from within” ([42:30]), had to be forcibly opened.

Notable Moment

[40:00] Corinne: “Her lover—her husband—came into the room and stabbed her to death while she was in the bath.”
[41:16] Corinne: “People will feel watched. They’ll become overwhelmed with sadness and unease...”

• Bars on the windows: Possibly for Al Capone’s “safe” or “prisoner” stay (history blends into hauntings).

4. The Paranormal Investigation

Arrival & Setup

• Meredith’s first time ghost hunting. Both hosts describe logistical delays and “as if the hotel didn’t want us to be here.”
  [45:53] Corinne: “It almost felt like... the hotel didn’t want us to be here.”

• Meredith immediately experiences a full hotel evacuation alarm after checking in ([47:07]).

Overnight Experiences

• Quiet at first: Ghost Tube device is eerily “radio silent”—no spirit interaction for over an hour ([50:44]). [51:59] Meredith: “The lack of it actually started to creep me out.”

• Candle flame and REM pod in the bathroom give the most response, possibly a preferred subtle form of communication.

• The energy feels responsive to “girl talk” and fun, rather than direct questioning or provocation ([52:54]).

• Shared the hypothesis that Annalisa’s spirit prefers respectful, fun, and perhaps “female” energy ([53:26]).

• Both experience unexplained nausea during their stay ([57:20]).

5. Ghost Etiquette & Respect

• Paranormal activity increases with respect and “normal” interaction (“girls night”), not with classic ghost hunting provocation ([52:54]).
• Eating pizza in bed is called “disrespectful” by Annalisa via ghost equipment ([82:07]).
• Corinne asks permission to use the bathroom due to its tragic history (“leave,” “danger” received as responses) ([83:09]).

6. Addendum: Next-Day Revelations

(Spontaneously added segment with significant updates, [65:39—88:33])

• A dramatic shift: After the initial episode’s “quiet” night, a live Patreon investigation the next day yields clear and direct activity.

  • Annalisa communicates through Ghost Tube, asks to be called “Ann,” wants her legacy (“married”) straight; the word “cheating” and names like “Kimberly” and “Andrea” come through, implying her husband’s own affairs.
  • Emphasizes she wants “respect” and is particularly distrustful of men in the room.
  • Repeated references to “baby” and “protect”—later corroborated by staff (she is sometimes seen pregnant in ghost photos, is protective of children, and appears mostly to women and children).

• Notable Haunting Story ([73:38]):

  • A couple staying in Room 311 experience the husband writhing on the ground as if possessed—claims “I can feel her tears.” Only after water is sprinkled on him does he recover.

Quote

[74:12] Corinne: “He literally starts weeping and says, ‘I can feel her tears. I can feel her tears.’”

• Al Capone & Annalisa's spirit: Evidence points to Capone experiencing hauntings, despite his denial—"Why would you declare only four years later, ‘I definitely did NOT experience hauntings in that room’?" ([77:23])
• Ghostly Goodbye: Upon checkout, elevator brings Corinne and Meredith up to the 10th floor and then down, without doors opening—a possible send-off ([85:49]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Corinne ([13:53]): “This land is undoubtedly stained by that history, and I think it’s important context for understanding this hotel.”
• Sabrina ([40:00]): “Oh, God.” (On Annalisa’s murder—the horror comes through)
• Corinne ([45:53]): “It almost felt like... the hotel didn’t want us to be here.”
• Meredith ([57:21]): “That might be more regular for you, but it’s irregular for me. I like, never get nauseated. And I felt it all night.”
• Corinne ([74:12]): “‘I can feel her tears. I can feel her tears.’”
• Corinne ([82:07]): “Respect my place. Follow my rules.”
• Meredith ([83:15]): “It’s dangerous to go. Please leave. So don’t pee in there.”
• Sabrina ([84:24]): “It’s like you’re living a different version of a relationship in life that I didn’t get to live. And you’re doing it right where I was attacked and murdered and died in.”
• Corinne ([87:12]): “Meredith kept seeing little, like, movements in the corner of her eye as we were going to sleep. So Annalisa might have come to our room...”

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Key Timestamps

• 01:31 – Corinne on location in Room 311
• 06:55 – Beginning of hotel/land history; Cherokee origins
• 18:46 – Rebuilding as Reed House Hotel
• 39:59 – Annalisa Netherly’s legend and murder
• 41:16 – First descriptions of hauntings and strange phenomena
• 45:53 – Paranormal overnight begins; Meredith’s first experiences
• 47:07 – Full hotel evacuation
• 50:44 – “Radio silent” ghost equipment
• 52:54 – Shift in energy with Girls Night; best responses from respectful/female-centric energy
• 57:20 – Sudden unexplained nausea
• 65:39 – Addendum segment: Next-day live investigation, major increase in ghost activity
• 73:38 – Possessed husband story
• 81:06 – Annalisa signals “me time” / patterns in ghostly engagement
• 82:07+ – Ghostly etiquette: “Disrespectful” eating, rules about spaces
• 85:49 – Haunted elevator send-off

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Flow & Tone

• Friendly, Wry, and Spooky: Warm, familiar rapport between hosts; humor woven through even the creepiest bits.
• Candid & Respectful: Care taken in historical context, serious and playful advice about ghost etiquette.
• Supportive of “Ghoul-Friends”: Celebration of platonic love and ‘girls night’ camaraderie, as much as supernatural adventure.
• Engaged Investigation: Genuine curiosity, willingness to take risks (“Always say yes.”), and debrief after the fact.

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Summary Takeaways

The Reed House Hotel—and especially Room 311—is haunted not only by the lore of tragedy and its beautifully unsettling décor, but also by a palpable need for respect and recognition, especially from women who approach her space with empathy and friendship. Corinne and Meredith’s investigation—at first frustratingly quiet, then explosively responsive—suggests spirits, like people, respond best to warmth, patience, and authenticity.

For would-be ghost hunters:

• Annalisa’s spirit is protective, especially of her space, and wary—sometimes aggressive—toward men or disrespectful guests.
• The room’s availability is rare but transformative; tours (hosted by local legends, Mr. Kirby & Mr. Spaulding) are highly recommended.
• Every Friday the 13th offers a new chance for someone brave (or foolish) enough to seek contact, or simply listen for the haunted heart beating at Chattanooga’s center.

Final Word, per Corinne:
"Always say yes to haunted hotel invites from your friends. Ghoul friends over jilted lovers, this Valentine’s Day." ([65:13])

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For Further Engagement

• Check out Rattled and Shook Podcast
• Visit the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, TN for history tours or if you're daring, book Room 311 on a Friday the 13th or in October.
• Listener stories can be sent to two girls one ghost at 2girlsoneghostpodcastmail.com
• Watch the Patreon livestream for more behind-the-scenes ghost hunting.

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Disclaimer: Listening to Two Girls One Ghost may lead to experiences of the paranormal—continue at your own risk!

Transcript

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[Corinne]

Very spooky. Hey.

[Sabrina]

Hello. This is two girls, one ghost. Two girls, one ghost.

[Corinne]

And we are your ghostesses. That is Corrine.

[Sabrina]

Hello.

[Corinne]

I am way over here and our ghost. Today we have a real ghost with us because I am in the Haunted Reed Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee, in the very haunted room 311, where there is a spirit of a woman who's very much here and might make an appearance in the episode.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my gosh.

[Corinne]

This is the very room.

[Sabrina]

This is like, the first time that you're staying in, like, the said haunted room, right?

[Corinne]

Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Sabrina]

Because I feel like we've been to places and you've gone on location a few times before, but it's like, usually it's just like we're in the hotel.

[Corinne]

Yeah, the general vicinity. No, we're in. In the room where it happened.

[Sabrina]

You spent the night there.

[Corinne]

I did. And I have some stories and we're gonna get to those.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God. Did you sleep a wink or were you just terrified all day? I did.

[Corinne]

I dreamt a lot about setting up the recording stuff, so my sleep was me dreaming about working.

[Sabrina]

Oh, the anticipation of having to record in the morning.

[Corinne]

Where do we set it up? Like, what's the best spot? Like, what if the ghost interferes with the audio and the microphones and the camera? Which could still happen. So stay tuned. But today's episode is celebrating two things. Two very exciting things. Well, one very exciting thing and one that I'm gonna call the anti thing.

[Sabrina]

Oh, okay.

[Corinne]

This is celebrating Friday the 13th because that's right. This February, we have a Friday the 13th. Actually, in 2026, I think we have three Friday the 13th.

[Sabrina]

Three? Is that normal?

[Corinne]

Three?

[Sabrina]

I feel like we only ever get maybe two.

[Corinne]

I know we have a lot. So Happy Friday the 13th to those of you who celebrate, including us.

[Sabrina]

Wait, oh, now I need to know which months they're in.

[Corinne]

I'll tell you right now for my planning of life, it's February, March, and November.

[Sabrina]

Oh, wow. Okay, so we've got two back to back.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Perfect. Time to go get that tattoo for all those Friday the 13th tattoo specials.

[Corinne]

If anyone's there, Perfect for you to come stay in room 311, because those are the only nights that room 311 is available to sleep in.

[Sabrina]

What? I did not know that. So it's only available on a Friday the 13th.

[Corinne]

And I think they have dates in October that they open it up for as well.

[Sabrina]

So they just keep it empty the rest of the year?

[Corinne]

Yes. So we're going to talk about that because. And we have a special guest today. Meredith Steadman from Rattled and Shook podcast joined me because I was like, I can't be here by myself. As daring as I may be, I was also a little chicken shit. Um, and so at the end of the episode, Meredith will come in and join us, and we'll talk about some of our experiences we've had here since. Since being here.

[Sabrina]

Perfect.

[Corinne]

But okay. The other thing today's episode is celebrating is what comes after Friday the 13th. Saturday the 14th, which is Valentine's Day.

[Sabrina]

Oh, what were you.

[Corinne]

What did you say?

[Sabrina]

Our half year anniversary, which is also Valentine's Day. What does that say about my obsession with you and our podcast? That instead of thinking Valentine's Day, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's halfway between our. Our annual anniversary.

[Corinne]

I actually much prefer that because that was what I was gonna be anti is. I'm anti Valentine's Day. And also, this episode's kind of like anti love. And maybe this should prove why none of us should be in love. And all we should do is just become. Just spend times with our best friends and our girlfriends, and that's the most important relationship of our life.

[Sabrina]

You know, I can't. I'm coming off of Rewatch two of heated rivalry. I could never disagree with you more than I do in this very moment. I love love.

[Corinne]

Well, this story.

[Sabrina]

I love men loving men.

[Corinne]

This story will make you realize why I'm saying that.

[Sabrina]

Okay.

[Corinne]

Okay. So every Friday the 13th. Oh, well, I guess it goes without saying, I'm covering this hotel in this room for this episode. I was like, I didn't lead with that. I think we thought that. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Okay. So every Friday the 13th, this hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee opens the doors to their most haunted room. And lucky. Or I guess maybe unlucky. No, it Lucky me. They opened it up for me last night to spend the night.

[Sabrina]

Dun, dun, dun. So amazing.

[Corinne]

This is not just any hotel. This is not just any haunted room. This is room 311 of the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it is gorgeous. Like, you can see just briefly how beautiful this room is. And, like, the antiques and the wallpaper.

[Sabrina]

The wallpaper. Such a sucker for wallpaper.

[Corinne]

But the whole hotel.

[Sabrina]

Does the phone next to you work?

[Corinne]

So it doesn't. But this used to be the, like, room service.

[Sabrina]

Hello. I love it.

[Corinne]

Could I get caviar, please, and some champagne?

[Sabrina]

I need caviar for seasoning.

[Corinne]

A little bump of cavy.

[Sabrina]

Ooh.

[Corinne]

I think that's, like, a thing that.

[Sabrina]

Never have I ever done that. Never have I ever been given the opportunity to do that.

[Corinne]

Um, I don't need.

[Sabrina]

I think you need to be rich, right?

[Corinne]

I guess. I don't know. Caviar does seem like a rich person thing, but it does.

[Sabrina]

Although, technically, is caviar just any fish egg?

[Corinne]

Yeah, but I think the nice. You want the nice eggs?

[Sabrina]

Oh. Cause I was like, well, we get it on our sushi sometimes. I've had the little tiny orange ones.

[Corinne]

Oh, I'm a vegetarian, so why am I trying to answer this? Anyway, okay.

[Sabrina]

So you ordered caviar, and then you slept in the haunted room.

[Corinne]

Yes. This used to work. It does not work currently, but, yeah, it used to be the hotel room phone. So this hotel is gorgeous. And it was a staple. It's been a staple in downtown Chattanooga since it opened in the 1800s. 1872. So well over a century, inching upon two centuries. And it has welcomed important business people, travelers from all over the world. A ghost girl from Two Girls, One Ghost. And it has also housed a famous mobster from the 1920s who we'll get into in a minute. But it has a lot of history. There's so many stories that this building can tell. Like, truly, you walk in here. I walked into the lobby, which is beautiful. It's, like, very grandiose. Like, beautiful chandeliers, lots of antiques. And see, can you. And you can just feel the history.

[Sabrina]

Where my mind just went was like, I know that we should be celebrating how wonderful and beautiful it was, but I just immediately went to the fear of tornadoes and how, like, beautiful old places like this are in the tornado zone.

[Corinne]

Well, you know where else this is beyond a tornado zone? Fricking Appalachia.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God. Double whammy.

[Corinne]

This girl, this ghoul drove through fricking Appalachia to get here, and I survived. And I didn't see any creepy crawlers on the road.

[Sabrina]

That's good, because you were driving in the night.

[Corinne]

In the night. Yep.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Okay. So before Meredith and I talk about what we experienced in this room, I want to tell you the history of the hotel and of this land, because I do feel like what makes this place so haunted isn't just what happened in this room and isn't just the people who stayed here, the people who built it, who poured their lives and energy into this place, but the land. The Reed House Hotel has stood in downtown Chattanooga since 1872. And in the nearly two centuries, it has collected stories and some souls. Everything about it is super ornate. It actually reminds me a lot of the Driscoll Hotel that we went to in Austin.

[Sabrina]

In Austin.

[Corinne]

And it was. I guess the construction of this building was inspired by a different hotel in Chicago. It has very, like, Gatsby vibes. Like, very, like, 1920s art deco. I mean, as you can see from.

[Sabrina]

The Enter the Mobster. Like, that makes total sense in this movie.

[Corinne]

And a little light teaser, there are bars on the windows of this hotel room because perhaps a mobster stayed in here, a dangerous one, like, as a.

[Sabrina]

Prison cell for him.

[Corinne]

Like, during transport. Yep. Oh, damn.

[Sabrina]

Why are they putting them in nice hotels? Well, I shouldn't ask that. Pablo Escobar is a great example of getting whatever the hell you want. Yeah, if you're incarcerated.

[Corinne]

Exactly. So this history goes way back, like origin stories, like, circa, like, beginning of time. The land, the land before time, the land that is now the city of Chattanooga was first inhabited by indigenous people, as most of America is, most notably the Cherokee Nation. And this area sits along the Tennessee river, which made it the perfect place for trade, for travel, for agriculture. It's kind of in the valley of a bunch of mountains, the Appalachia Mountains. So it was the perfect place to travel between the mountains. And the mountains provided this kind of safety. You're in, like, the valley, you know, the Cherokee people called the region Chattanoogi. It's spelled T S A T A N, G U I, but pronounced Chattanoogi, which is similar to what it is now Chattanooga. Chattanoogi stood for rock rising Point. And as I was explaining, it's the area where the Ridge and Valley of the Appalachians meet the Cumberland Plateau, which makes for beautiful scenery. And Meredith and I haven't, like, walked around outside of the hotel very much, but when you look up photos of Chad and you see, like, the Tennessee river and the landscape and the rolling hills and the, like, bridges, and it has beautiful sunsets and stuff, so I'll go catch some photos myself tomorrow.

[Sabrina]

All I'm thinking of is how beautiful someone gave us. Maybe like four or five years ago when we were at a show, someone from Chattanooga brought us magnets of Chattanooga. And I was like, damn, that place looks really nice.

[Corinne]

It's stunning. But with most of our land, what started as land that belonged to the natives slowly began to be colonized. In the 1540s, Spanish explorers passed through the region. Then in the 1700s, British colonials entered the area and began trade alliances with the Cherokee. In the late 1700s, after the American Revolution, the area saw some white settlers who began to illegally encroach on the land. But then in the early 1800s, a man named John Ross took control. And John Ross was the principal chief of the Cherokee Nation. He was of Cherokee and Scottish descent, and he wanted to, like, really reestablish Cherokee control of this land.

[Sabrina]

So he.

[Corinne]

He made the area a commercial hub for Cherokee, and he called it Ross's Landing. So he did name it after himself.

[Sabrina]

You said he was Scottish, too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound. It sounds like a white boy name.

[Corinne]

Yes. But he was very, like, he was the Cherokee principal chief. So he was more Cherokee than.

[Sabrina]

He was a colonizer, like, deeply involved in his culture still. Yeah.

[Corinne]

It was actually the last functioning Cherokee controlled site in the region until the Trail of Tears.

[Sabrina]

Oh, God, I hate the Trail of Tears.

[Corinne]

No. And it's pretty devastating, especially because. Because of the location of Chattanooga and the Tennessee River. So many people who were forced along the Trail of Tears did stop in Chattanooga at some point. So there was a lot of famine, death, harm.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

That happened on this land.

[Sabrina]

This is why the Nanahi opened up their mountain and said, come here before all of the destruction.

[Corinne]

I know. I actually was thinking about that a lot when I was researching this episode. I was like, it does feel very similar.

[Sabrina]

Well, yeah, because so many of those stories within Nanahi, like, preceded and was leading up to that moment. The Trail of Tears.

[Corinne]

Yeah. So if you don't know the Trail of tears, in 1838, the US troops and local militias rounded up and detained mostly the Cherokee people. But it was natives ripping them from their homes and forcing them into temporary camps. And due to the location of Ross's Landing and its proximity to the Tennessee river, many Cherokee people passed through this area before being forced west. And I'm not gonna go full history class, but I just think it's very important to know that in context of the Trail of tears, some 4 to 6,000 Cherokees died during the Trail of Tears.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Not all of them here, but, like, they were forced into cram situations. Like, the colonizer gave them, like, terrible diseases. They were starved. They were.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

It was just horrible conditions.

[Sabrina]

You're bringing me back to middle school history class when we had the. Do you remember the projectors where, like, you'd put.

[Corinne]

Yes.

[Sabrina]

In order to see something, like, on the wall, we had, like, clear pictures, but, like, the ink was printed and it would project onto the wall. And that's, like, how our history teacher taught us about the Trail of Tears and showed us all of these illustrations of it.

[Corinne]

It was terrible, horrible, horrible. So while not all of these people died here in Chattanooga, this land is undoubtedly stained by that history, and I think it's important context for understanding this hotel. So once the Cherokee people were forced out of the land, Ross's Landing ceased to be a Cherokee place. The land was redistributed. It was sold or claimed by white settlers and developers. And within months, the white settlers took residence here. And in 1839, Chattanooga, Tennessee, was officially incorporated as a city. And it became a bustling city because it had the river and it had the road networks through the mountains. And then the railroad expanded that growth, and everyone was traveling. I mean, the railroad, the days of the railroad. I simultaneously don't, but do want to, like, go back and experience, because it just feels like such a different life.

[Sabrina]

Like, in ways it feels so exciting because of the innovation and getting to go and visit new places and, like, get dressed up and be fancy.

[Corinne]

Yes.

[Sabrina]

But then when you think about, like, the people that it brought in and how much hardship was in all of those towns, and it was like, that's like the Wild west and people just being, like, enslaved to create the railroads. And then. Phineas Gage.

[Corinne]

Yes. See, history class. We're kind of a history class.

[Sabrina]

We remember something.

[Corinne]

Something small.

[Sabrina]

Small bits.

[Corinne]

But so Chattanooga became this really popular, big hub for the railroad and people who were traveling on the railroad. It was even nicknamed the Gateway to the south because it connected people from the Deep south to the Midwest. And so it's around this time that when the railroad is bustling that people are like, oh, well, we need more commercial businesses, but we also need more hotels for all these people who are traveling to stay at. So in 1847, a man by the name of Thomas Crutchfield made an agreement with the Nashville and Chattanooga railroad and built a hotel just across the street. And it's called the Crutchfield House. So the Crutchfield House stood where the Reed House now stands, the hotel. And Thomas became, like, they had, like, become the center of Chattanooga community. The hotel is directly across from the railroad station. So many guests are spending their nights here. It becomes a place to gather for political, social, and economic conversation. Like, I feel like hotels weren't just a place to go sleep in, they were a place to socialize. It becomes so popular that. And, like, Thomas also becomes so popular. He becomes mayor of Chattanooga. Oh, wow. And then, if you know anything about history, this is the mid to late 1800s. There's something a brewing. The Civil War and the United States is fractured over slavery, states rights, economic power, federal authority. States were voting for succession, and Chattanooga was a divided city. And I thought this was interesting. Like, Chattanooga was, like, the one city that was really holding Tennessee back From succeeding in 1861, in the location that we are in, granted, different buildings. Jefferson Davis gave an impassioned speech encouraging Tennessee to join the Confederacy, but Thomas Crutchfield's brother. So the mayor and the owner of the Crutchfield House, William Crutchfield, resisted, and it becomes this, like, duel. Like, literally, guns get drawn.

[Sabrina]

My God.

[Corinne]

So kind of the Wild West.

[Sabrina]

I am kind of shocked because I feel like when we learn about it, it just feels like, you know, here are the states that were. It just feels like such a clear divide.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And it. I guess, yeah, it does make sense. It's almost like voting today, where, like, there could be a state that's, yes, totally red, but then there's, like, a couple blue cities within it or something like that.

[Corinne]

You know, history repeats itself. Yeah. We don't learn. So Crutchfield, he was a businessman and a railroad investor, and so he rejected the succession more for economic reasons. But anyway, there's such a big disagreement. There's literally, weapons are drawn. No one ends up getting harmed. Eventually, Tennessee does succeed in 1861 and becomes the last state to join the Confederacy. But we know how that turned out. The Union forces captured Chattanooga in 1863. They seized the city, and as they did in war, they were like, well, we seized it, but now we need a place to stay. And there's this beautiful hotel here, so they take up residency in the Crutchfield House. The Civil war ended in 1865, and just two years later, in 1867, the Crutchfield House was destroyed by a fire. Like nothing was left.

[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

Kids, they grow up so fast. One day they're taking their first steps and the next they don't fit into the tiny sneakers they took them in. You blink your eyes and their princess dress is two sizes too small and their dinosaur backpack isn't cool anymore. But don't cry because they're growing up. Smile because you can profit off of it for real. There are a bunch of parents on Depop looking for the stuff your kid just grew out of. Download Depop to start selling. So now the land is empty and post war travel among the railroad and business travel generally surged. So more people are traveling. The city's running out of hotel rooms and in 1872 there are two local businessmen who see this vacant lot, which is, like, literally right across the street from the railroad. Like, the entrance. They're like, oh, this is prime real estate. Let's build up some, like, business buildings. So they build, like, a whole commercial building. But then in 1872, a man by the name of John Thomas Reed sees these buildings, and he's like, they're destined to be something more than commercial buildings. So he convinces the two businessmen to rent him, like, lease him the building, and he turns it into the Reed House hotel. So in 1872, the Reed House Hotel is opened. And immediately the energy from what was once the Crutchfield House seems to radiate through the walls and halls of the Reed House, and it becomes similar to the Crutchfield House, the social center of Chattanooga. It's a meeting place for politics, for business, for socializing and prosperity. Railroad execs, business travelers, politicians, performers, they all decide to stay at the Reed House also.

[Sabrina]

What a great impression of Chattanooga. Like, imagine you're traveling there, it's your first time, and you get off of the train, and that is what you see. This, like, grandiose, opulent, like, beautiful hotel. That would be such a good first impression.

[Corinne]

And also how convenient. I'm for sure staying there. I don't want to go lug my carriage. Like, think about what people had to travel with back in the days. Like, they didn't have wheelie suitcases. They had these massive trunks.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. What a burden. I don't think I'd travel.

[Corinne]

Not that you travel much now anyway.

[Sabrina]

No. Well, okay. But part of what. What is you want me to travel with a. A car seat? No, thanks. I'm not getting on a plane.

[Corinne]

No. Okay. So eventually, John Reed buys out the whole building from these businessmen and continues the Reed House. Rather than, like, renting the building, it's like, now he owns it, and it is the hotel. And John and his wife Caroline love this hotel deeply. Like, they live here, they take up residence here. They do nightly rounds, like, knocking on doors, checking on guests. They granted, it's also like the late 1800s. Like, sometimes there were, like, dirty, rotten scoundrels who would sneak into the hotel and they would go kick them out. But they were very much a part of the hotel. They weren't just like, the owners who didn't want anything to do with it. They would go have drinks, they would mingle with the customers. They were befriending the people who would stay here long term. And in 1879, they sold the hotel to their son, Sam r. Reid. But they continued to live and manage the property. In 1880, the Reed House Hotel is extended. In 1884, Grover Cleveland's presidential victory was celebrated at the reed House. In 1886, a fourth story was added. And in time, the Reed family ends up owning, like, the entire block that the hotel sits on, not just the Reid house.

[Sabrina]

Wow. Yeah.

[Corinne]

In 1898, John and Caroline celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary here in the Reed house hotel, which I think is beautiful.

[Sabrina]

That's so cute.

[Corinne]

50 years.

[Sabrina]

See?

[Corinne]

Okay, this is.

[Sabrina]

And you said you don't believe in love. Well, you'll see.

[Corinne]

It's not that I don't believe in it, but I'm. When we get to the reason this room is haunted, this is why I'm advocating for friendship over romance.

[Sabrina]

Okay. Oh.

[Corinne]

In 1900, John Reed passed away. His funeral was held at the hotel. Caroline lived for another three years before she too passed away in 1903 and joined her beloved John on the other side. You would think that those two would be seen quite a lot in the hotel. But I spoke to the people at the front desk yesterday, and I was like, have you, like, have people reported seeing John or Caroline Reed? And they all were like, no, actually, not at all. And one guy joked that they had enough of the hotel, or maybe they're just at peace because they left it in the hands of their family and they didn't need to stay.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

But there are some hauntings and we'll get to it. That like, based on the way they sound, it does feel reminiscent of John and Caroline. But they've never been seen or they're not very active. If they are here.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Or maybe it's like residual or something.

[Corinne]

Yeah, definitely it.

[Sabrina]

Also, you just made me think a thought that I don't think I've ever thought before with the paranormal, which is I wonder if, especially with a residual haunting, if there's another spirit that's actively haunting and their own memories can project a residual haunting. Like, it's like their memory of interacting with someone else makes the ghost of that person appear, but that spirit isn't actually there. It's just a part of another spirit's memory and their own haunting.

[Corinne]

That's cool. I believe that.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

We don't know what haunting.

[Sabrina]

Who knows? Anything's possible. We know nothing.

[Corinne]

So their son Sam continues to operate the Reid house hotel and continues his parents legacy. It's as if they never left. It's like their. Their legacy and their energy is woven into the foundation of this business and of the hotel in 1904. You're going to love this, Corinne. The hotel adopts a European plan, which meant room rates started at $1 and up. And meals were served a la carte. And they had, quote, unusual but the finest Turkish baths.

[Sabrina]

One.

[Corinne]

Oh, my God. Room rates starting at $1.

[Sabrina]

That sounds nice.

[Corinne]

Isn't that crazy?

[Sabrina]

Also, what is that in today's money? 20 bucks?

[Corinne]

I didn't look that up. I don't know. It's a good question. 1904. Someone do the math for us. Also in 1904, guess what's introduced into Chattanooga. Coca Cola. And it is first introduced in.

[Sabrina]

Back when they were using cocaine.

[Corinne]

Literally, it was introduced.

[Sabrina]

What a party in Chattanooga. You got Turkish baths and coke.

[Corinne]

Yes.

[Sabrina]

Fuck.

[Corinne]

It was implemented in the Reed House Drugstore. Like, that was the first place in Chattanooga that got Coca Cola.

[Sabrina]

That's a fun fact.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And the advertisement for it says it satisfies the thirsty and helps the weary. Yeah. Nothing like a little cocaine in your bones.

[Sabrina]

That's literally because it was cocaine. That slogan wouldn't work today for a Coke. It's like, do you do all that? I feel like that's. The marketing is wrong and people would sue.

[Corinne]

Did you try coca leaves when you were in Peru?

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I did. I was pretty dependent on him.

[Corinne]

Oh. Oh. For the altitude.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Cause we did a lot of hiking. A lot of hiking at Machu Picchu and just like a ton of different elevation changes. And I. I did a lot of coke.

[Corinne]

I tried. I did a lot of coke once.

[Sabrina]

Or twice, but I. I did a lot of coca. I did a lot of coca tea. And then I liked, like, they do, like, cough drops. Like, the loss.

[Corinne]

Yeah. You didn't chew on the actual leaves or did you?

[Sabrina]

Just a couple of times. So it wasn't good.

[Corinne]

Yeah, no. Like dirt.

[Sabrina]

I think I was, like, so blind to what coca actually tastes like because I. We all, like, needed it so badly on our travels because we were there for like two or two weeks or so.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

That I bought a ton of coca tea and brought it home with me as like a. Here's my, like, yeah, you're my thing. And I'm like, gifting my family or whatever, and then they're trying it and they're like, oh, pretty plain.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

I was like, oh, yeah.

[Corinne]

Anyway, anyway, so now, yeah, everyone's doing coke and Chattanooga around the 1920s. Chattanooga is a full blown bustling city and. But it's also 1920s. We know it's happening Prohibition, Great Depression. And the Reed House is not immune to the Great Depression. Also, it opened in 1872, so it's a little bit outdated. It's not like the center of the city anymore. People are choosing to stay at other hotels because there are other options and the hotel's a little run down. So they decide to tear it down and build a brand new, even better, more luxurious Reed House Hotel. The same Reed House hotel that exists today.

[Sabrina]

Wow.

[Corinne]

But this is amazing. So the way they must have done the construction, they must have done it in phases because not a single day during the like year and a half time that they did this brand new rebuild, basically was the Reed House closed. Not a single day was it closed. So it was always open for business during the construction. Yeah, they must have done it like section by section, I guess.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Construction takes a year and a half plus and by 1926, the Reed House Hotel reopens and throws a. Or it's, you know, does its grand reopening. There was a four day event to celebrate their new 10 story, 400 room, elegant, modern and fireproof hotel.

[Sabrina]

I hate the word fireproof hotel ever being used.

[Corinne]

Well, I think it's because it's like more concrete than it is wood built and, and that's a lot of cities.

[Sabrina]

I just feel like that's been advertised a few times and then things go down. I know, like 20 years later.

[Corinne]

Well, the Crutchfield house burnt down and if you look at Chattanooga again, like we haven't done a ton of exploring. But when I was coming in, I did notice that a lot of the buildings are more concrete and I imagine that's because a fire destroyed a lot of the city.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

Which is common.

[Sabrina]

I also wonder if like again, thinking about tornadoes, does that help? Is that the preferred construction?

[Corinne]

I do not know. I feel like you're the tornado expert.

[Sabrina]

Well, I'm the. I'm the one that fears it most.

[Corinne]

Yeah, you're the expert on the.

[Sabrina]

I definitely died in a past life from a tornado because I have nightmares about tornadoes all the time and I have never been in a tornado.

[Corinne]

You never ended up in Austin, nor.

[Sabrina]

Did I grow up in. In an area with tornadoes.

[Corinne]

No. But that one time we were in Austin, you did have a tornado warning and you were. It was very scary for you.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, because I was coming off of decades of nightmares that I was gonna die in a tornado.

[Corinne]

No. That's terrifying.

[Sabrina]

I was like, this is it. Here it is. Here's the moment. You think you're gonna die in a Car crash. I'll die in a tornado.

[Corinne]

Yeah, those might be past life things. Or maybe their current life. Who knows? Only time will tell.

[Sabrina]

Stay tuned to find out how we die.

[Corinne]

Okay, so it reopens in 1926, and this hotel is built with a strong art deco influence. Featured a massive lobby, grand ballrooms, meeting spaces, updated guest rooms. The renovations cost $2.5 million, and once they reopened, they upped the room rates to $2.50 and up, which inflation. But considering how much it costs for the renovations, I'm like, that's a modest increase.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, true.

[Corinne]

Okay, so now when it reopens, the hotel re establishes itself as the premier hotel in Chattanooga. Even Winston Churchill stays at the hotel in the 1930s. But also, you want to know who else stayed here during this time? Al freaking Capone. Damn. Because that guy was everywhere. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

How did he have the time?

[Corinne]

Well, so it was during his transport, like, his transportation to, like, different cells and stuff.

[Sabrina]

Okay. Yeah. So he wasn't doing mob business there.

[Corinne]

No, no, no. So according to the hotel and, like, the historians, Al Capone literally stayed in the room that we are in right now, room that I am recording in. And there are bars on the windows here in this room because, like, they say that they were installed for Capone to be able to stay here so that he wouldn't, like, run and escape. But Meredith did some research and said that apparently it was common for, like, hotels on the first couple of floors to have bars on their hotel rooms.

[Sabrina]

But that makes sense just for, like, people trying to loot and break an entry and stuff like that.

[Corinne]

Which I think maybe that made it a safe room for him to stay in because there are ready wear bars.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people hearing that Al Capone had stayed in that room might anticipate a certain negative or, like, scary vibe in the energy. However, when you and I were in Vegas.

[Corinne]

Yep.

[Sabrina]

And we went to Zach Bacon's museum, there was a room that was basically a replica of, like, Al Capone's. Was it his, like, office or his library or something?

[Meredith]

Mm.

[Sabrina]

I can't remember what it was, but, like, it was the one room where we're like, oh, this feels really nice.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And also we felt really good.

[Corinne]

We've read a couple stories where people, like, believe they've had interactions with Al Capone's ghosts, and, like, they were kind of fun.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. It's such a confusing thing because, like, clearly, action wise, not a good guy, bad guy.

[Corinne]

Objectively bad guy. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

But it's weird that there's, like, the energy that is in the afterlife that comes with. Al Capone is so different from what you would expect based on the terrors he brought to his living life.

[Corinne]

He's like. He's like that dad who's really militant, raising his kids, but the second he retires, he starts smoking weed and gets a tattoo and just becomes a different person.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I guess.

[Corinne]

Okay, so when Sam Reed passed away in 1942, the heirs of the Reed family sold the building and the hotel. And then with World War II and the state of the world, a lot of travel lessened. The railroad and nationwide travel, like every business, experienced loss during this time. But despite all of that, the Reed House Hotel has remained. It has persisted through all of time. It's undergone various restorations and renovations. And here it is today. Here we are right now, doing a whole entire episode about it, staying in the hotel. It is still here, and it is beautiful. And it's a place that, like, you can really, truly feel the history in the moment you walk in through the doors. And part of that feeling that you feel when you walk in isn't just the history. It's something that's still alive, Something a little bit otherworldly and paranormal, because this place is haunted.

[Sabrina]

Dun, dun, dun. Is anyone surprised?

[Corinne]

Yeah, surprise. We're doing a ghost story.

[Sabrina]

Hey. Oh, my God. It's a ghost story this week.

[Corinne]

Can you believe? Okay, so we'll talk about. There's, like, a couple legends and hauntings that exist in, like, the hotel generally. But then we'll talk about this room, and then Meredith will come in, and we'll talk about what has happened since being here.

[Sabrina]

I'm nervous, and I didn't even stay there.

[Corinne]

I have a smile on my face, so I'm not possessed. That's a good thing. That's what they want you to think. Okay. So I was fully expecting John and Caroline Reed's spirits to be here. Like, I thought for sure they would be the ones haunting it. But like I said, there are no reports of their spirits being here. But there are hauntings that I said, like, earlier that do seem in line with them because people report cold spots or being watched in the lobby. They also report being followed in the hallways and upper floors. Like, footsteps behind you, which is very creepy. And, like, you turn around, and no one's there. People report knocking on their door, but then when they go to look at the door, no one's there. Which that feels reminiscent of the reads. Right. Like, they would knock on the doors. Check on the guests and do their nightly rounds. Also, one thing I want to say is the door to this room is very creepy compared to all the doors of the other rooms.

[Sabrina]

Wait, why?

[Corinne]

It's like the old original? It's actually not the original door, but it's like an old door, and you have to use a physical key to get in. Elevators will stop on floors at random. Like, when no one presses the buttons, Buttons will light up on their own. Which elevators? I feel like, traditionally good place to haunt if you're a ghost. There are general discussions, but, like, no documented reports that I could find of people seeing soldiers or people in period clothing in the hotel. But there are also so many antiques. Like, even this room, none of the furniture in this room was original to the room, but they're all antiques, so that adds, like, a whole other layer. And if you go, like, walk through the lobby, there's this, like, library room that is full of antiques. Again, like, not antiques, original to the building. So it's like, what's coming with those? Are there spirits attached to those that have nothing to do with the hotel and the history of this land?

[Sabrina]

Yeah, they have their own haunting past to bring in.

[Corinne]

And then there's a mystery at the hotel. And it makes me really sad because as someone who, like, loves, like, old records, in 1994, the guestbook that dated all the way back to the civil war went missing, and it has never been seen again.

[Sabrina]

What? Who had access to the room where it was kept?

[Corinne]

Isn't that so sad?

[Sabrina]

That is so sad. Oh, my gosh.

[Corinne]

Never been seen again.

[Sabrina]

You know what? I think it's gonna be? It's gonna resurface sometime in the next, like, 50 years. Cause someone's gonna pass. A relative is gonna get this book in.

[Corinne]

Going to go, ooh, the Reed house.

[Sabrina]

Onto the history channel to see how.

[Corinne]

Much it's worth, I'm. I hope.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, that's when we're going to find it. I feel like that happens, like, a decent amount where someone will go and try to, like, get some. Something valued to see because they inherited some weird thing. And then it's like, oh, actually, your great grandfather stole that from Egypt. So.

[Corinne]

Which also that happened.

[Sabrina]

Probably should give that back.

[Corinne]

Yeah, we should do a whole episode about, like, stolen Egyptian goods, Because I feel like, oh, there are a lot of curses, like, literally, what? In, like, what was the story like? People used to, like, snort mummified corpses as, like, a party trick in the Victorian era.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, that was a big thing.

[Corinne]

Anyway, the real reason that we are here today. And in the Reed House Hotel is this room. It is also the reason that this hotel has such a haunted reputation. Room 3 11. The sad thing about this is there are no confirmed records about what happened in this room. So a lot of what is out there. There's like so many different iterations of the story. But I will share with you the one that the hotel staff and like the historians of the Reid House Hotel have shared also. When I posted on my Instagram story, I was like, recommendations for Chattanooga. Everyone was like, you have to go to the Reed House Hotel and. And learn about room 311. So if you have been to or around. Oh, the light turned off. I was like, what just happened? Okay, room 311. As it is said, back in 1927, there was a woman by the name of Annalisa Netherly and her husband who lived in this room, room 311. And Annelisa's husband was. He traveled a lot back and forth from Chattanooga to Chicago for he was doing a lot of construction work. So he was like, along the railroad, traveling a lot for business. And as the story goes, Annalisa was a bit of like a good time girl. Like, she loved to go down to the lobby, have some drinks, have some cocktails, go into the billiard room, mingle with men. And her husband was gone for long periods of time and she started to get lonely. And apparently, according to legend, she would meet men, bring them up to the room and get her needs met. Her husband learned of her antics. And tragically, in 1927, while Annalisa was in the bathtub enjoying a little me time, her lover, her husband, came into the room and stabbed her to death while she was in the bath.

[Sabrina]

Oh, God.

[Corinne]

Do you now understand why I'm anti love?

[Sabrina]

The same thing happened to. Was it. It was either in like Austin or Denver. I feel like we covered another hotel that had such a similar story.

[Corinne]

It's like the jilted lover story. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, we don't have many details, but I did look it up. And during this time in the 1900s, like, especially because businesses and hotels cared so much about their reputation, they would be very diligent and cautious about how they handled cases like this. Like, they would basically, like, work very closely with the police. Kind of like hush, hush, pay you off. Can you handle this quietly so it doesn't get to the papers and no one learns of it?

[Sabrina]

Like Disney World. No one dies at Disney.

[Corinne]

Exactly, exactly. So that could be one reason. It's also the 1920s. Maybe records weren't kept as well. But whether you believe the story or not, it's totally up to you. But one thing is for certain. This room is haunted. People experience the water turning on in the bathroom by itself. Lights will flicker. Truly, like, right before setting up, the lamp to my right flickered.

[Sabrina]

There we go.

[Corinne]

I did come into the room and said, good morning, Annalisa. So, you know, I feel like we're on good terms.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. She's welcome to join the recording if she would like.

[Corinne]

Absolutely. People will feel watched. They'll become overwhelmed with sadness and unease. And most people do believe these hauntings are attributed to Annalise's spirit. Some have even reported seeing her spectral body. Some people have seen something move behind them in the mirrors in the bathroom. And I will say this. The room is absolutely stunning. And on their website, you actually can do one of Those, like, full 3D virtual tours of the room itself. Like, you know, when you're looking at real estate, you can, like, virtual tour of the house. Yes. They have that for this room. So if you want to go check it out, you can do that. It's beautiful. And there's a clawfoot tub, Old wooden doors. Like I said, the main door requires a physical key. We'll put pictures, like, side by side of the different room doors. Like this door. You walk past it, and you're like, oh, that looks creepy, because it doesn't look like everything else. Yeah. Oh, my God. Wait. This is crazy. When I checked in yesterday, the woman at the front desk said, like, one of her first few weeks of working here, they had to call the fire department because this door sealed itself from within, and they could not get it open. They had to call the fire department. The fire department literally had to, like, physically remove the door.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And it's not like they can get in from the outside because there's bars over the window.

[Corinne]

I know. And I was like, luckily no one was staying in here, but they had to physically, like, cut it off the frame.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Geez. That's wild. It makes me wonder what was happening.

[Corinne]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Sabrina]

Morbid question. Yeah. The clawfoot tub. Is the tub the same?

[Corinne]

It is not the original tub. Good question. It is not the original. So, like, nothing in here.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Cause you listed it in, like, the lovely things included in the room, and.

[Corinne]

I was like, ooh, yeah. And I have seen people who do stay in here take pictures in the bathtub, which I. I don't think I would do. I just feel like it's a little bit disrespectful.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. I get. Well, do they know? Is it just like.

[Corinne]

No, I think they.

[Sabrina]

Because I feel like when you come across a clawfoot tub, it does feel so unique that, like, I could see myself not knowing anything and being like, take a picture of me in the tub. Like, I'm pretending to be in my tub.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And if you are staying here and you need to shower, like, it's kind of the only option.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

But it's definitely not the original. And I will say people must know it's haunted because you can. You have to, like, specifically reserve this room. And it's available to book on Friday the 13th. So like I said, there are three Friday the 13th this year of 2026. February, March, and November. So if you want to stay at room 3 11, you can at the Reed House in Chattanooga. And it's beautiful. And you can also. You can request a tour of the room, like, during other times of the year. So you can. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, they'll. They'll give you, like, a history tour of the hotel, and then you can see the room itself.

[Sabrina]

I like that.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Because otherwise I'm like, damn, what a. It's like a little prized room.

[Corinne]

Yes.

[Sabrina]

I would want to be able to see it.

[Corinne]

I know.

[Sabrina]

But then I also wouldn't be brave enough to stay in it. So the tour would be perfect for me.

[Corinne]

It would be. Well, I. I will say I was very adamant that we have another room to sleep in in case it got scary. But this is the perfect time to bring Meredith in to talk about our experience while staying here. Welcome, Meredith.

[Sabrina]

Thank you.

[Meredith]

Thank you so much.

[Sabrina]

So you're like 12 hours in and you guys have already experienced the paranormal.

[Corinne]

And for my first time, this is Meredith's. This is my very first experience.

[Sabrina]

I'm shook. I'm rattled and shook.

[Corinne]

You're rattled and shook.

[Meredith]

No one's more rattled and shit.

[Sabrina]

I had no idea that you hadn't experienced anything before.

[Meredith]

No, I've.

[Sabrina]

I just assumed.

[Meredith]

I know I read a lot of scary stories.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

But I don't dabble in experiencing them myself, typically.

[Corinne]

Until last night.

[Meredith]

Yeah. Sabrina was like, I'm bringing all my equipment. I was like, this is the first time I'm going to see any of that stuff in real life.

[Sabrina]

Were you nervous going into a little investigation?

[Meredith]

Yes and no. I think that not knowing too much about anything was my primary plan.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Cause I was doing the research and I was like, meredith, do you want to know about the haunting or not.

[Meredith]

I said no. I said, maybe it's better if I don't. And honestly, like, I think that I. I was telling. We haven't talked about. You haven't said anything about what we've like heard so far. But even the littlest bit, even the littlest kernel, I was keeping it cool. But it got my, like, it got my heart pumping just because I have so little experience with it.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And it's just like the anticipation or something.

[Meredith]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

The unpredictable happening.

[Corinne]

It almost felt like to start from the beginning. It almost felt like the hotel didn't want us to be here.

[Meredith]

Accurate. Or it was gonna put on a show.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Like. Or it was like, you're gonna work to like be with me is kind of how it felt like getting here. There's a lot of travel delays. And then Meredith got here.

[Meredith]

Yeah. Well, your travel was crazy. Sabrina.

[Sabrina]

Well, yeah. Sabrina was in a snowstorm. Traverse the earth coming into Boston snowstorm.

[Corinne]

But hey, it was worth it.

[Meredith]

Yeah. But then I got here before her and so I checked in and went up to the non haunted room. Cause I was like, I don't wanna go in the haunted room before Sabrina's here. I don't wanna like spoil it. I ended up doing that. I ended up going in the haunted room by myself before. But I went to the non haunted.

[Corinne]

Room, which also was room 313, which is right.

[Meredith]

I was like, okay, so we're staying in the room next to the haunted room and the non hunter.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

You're still sharing a wall. Yeah.

[Meredith]

Basically you're like right there. And then it's also room 13 on this floor. So I was like, all right, great. Perfect. I sit down for about 10 seconds and all of the alarms in the hotel go off. It's like, please evacuate.

[Corinne]

Like full evacuation.

[Meredith]

Find the nearest stairwell. Do not use the elevator. I was like, oh. And it begins.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

So it has begun. Oh, my God.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Full on evacuation.

[Sabrina]

Oh, this makes me so curious. If every Friday the 13th, when they have people booked in here, if more stuff happens, if there are like more incidents, more reports, more just like things breaking maintenance calls because the room is trying to alert or like reject people.

[Corinne]

So this was our biggest debate yesterday because we did set up and like we, you know, like we lit a little candle, set intentions, and then we set up the REM pod. We. We set up the ghost stuff. But one thing we kept talking about is like, if no one's really staying here except for maybe a couple times a year, like as a spirit, do you stay in this room, or do you find, like, do you find yourself going elsewhere? And then also, because last night wasn't a Friday the 13th. Was the spirit not prepared for us to be here? You know, was like, oh, wait, you're. This is not right. You're not supposed to be here today. Like, she has her calendar marked of like, Friday the 13th. Okay, I know. To stay.

[Sabrina]

Like, does the staff go in every January 1st and say, here are the dates. I don't know, that are marked throughout the year.

[Meredith]

I'm just gonna leave this list on the couch. You peruse it at your convenience.

[Corinne]

I don't know if you guys watch below deck, but they get the. Between new charter guests. They have, like, the preference street meetings, and it's like, all the names of the guests, like, their food preferences and, like, the crew goes through it all. That's what I'm imagining for Annalisa.

[Meredith]

But It's Friday the 13th. And then I think. Did you talk about how. I think it's also weekends in October.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

Leading up to Halloween, I think. I don't know if that's new, but that's what they told me.

[Corinne]

Well, you got a story, too, about the last couple who stayed here. Right. Prior to us.

[Meredith]

Right. So when I. So eventually Sabrina's like, I'm gonna be really late. And I was like, oh, shoot. Well, maybe I'll just try to get a little bit of the story tonight while I'm here. I came in and did, like, a little tour of the room with a very nice man named Mr. Kirby, who was wearing a little bowler hat.

[Corinne]

Delightful.

[Meredith]

It was perfect. And he told me, like, kind of the run of the room and where. Where the things happened and stuff about Al Capone and all that. And then he said that the last couple that stayed here, which was. Would be the last people before we were in this room because it was in October, and I guess they were probably the Halloween weekend people. They didn't last the night and they didn't end up staying in the room, and they were pretty shaken up. And I think that they also. Then the newspaper interviewed them, so I think we can find that story. The local newspaper talked to them is what he said, so.

[Sabrina]

Huh. Well, I'm very surprised by that because given how few days and weekends the room is available, like, my thought is that people who book it are, like, extra brave, are super prepared for whatever happens in the room, and for them to be like, no, we can't stay here. I'm so curious what actually happened to them?

[Meredith]

Well, I think that's a really good point. But I will say, too, I wonder if it was different because they were a couple, and I think it was a woman and a man.

[Corinne]

Right. Which might be triggering.

[Meredith]

Triggering to the lore of Annalisa.

[Corinne]

That's a good point.

[Meredith]

Whereas we are just two girls.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Which I. Okay, so all in all, we experienced very little. We've used ghost tube so many times. Corinne. Not a single word for over an hour. Nothing.

[Sabrina]

That is shocking.

[Corinne]

And I've never had that happen. I was even explaining to Meredith, like, even when I'm at home and I turn on my ghost tube and I start to interact with the spirit world or whoever's around, at least something will come through. Not a word.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Or, like, if there's a gap, it's like, maybe 10 minutes, and then something will come through and we'll hear a bunch of stuff.

[Corinne]

Oh, that just gave me chills.

[Meredith]

We got a little interference with that.

[Corinne]

Yeah, you did.

[Sabrina]

What happened?

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

But now it's gone.

[Corinne]

Yeah. You were just. As you were talking, there was interference, like, static in the headphones.

[Meredith]

So you're gonna have to say that again.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Wait. Yeah. What did you say?

[Sabrina]

Oh, no, I was just saying, like, that when we've experienced gaps in ghost tube before, it's been maybe like, 10, 15 minutes or so, but full hour. Nothing.

[Corinne]

Not a word. But we did have the REM pod set up in the bathroom. So we sat out here, we had a candle, and then ghost tube set up, and then we put the REM pod in the bathroom, and it went off a couple times. And then the candle. It felt like the spirit was communicating with us via the flame.

[Meredith]

The candle did have the most kind of responsive nature.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

And it really. It fits the.

[Corinne]

The vibe.

[Meredith]

The vibe.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

I'm not really surprised.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Meredith]

But when Sabrina told me that ghost tube doesn't normally do that. That, like, you get basically some sort of.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

Some sort of messaging, basically, anytime you open it. Then the lack of it actually started to creep me out, which is when.

[Corinne]

We, like, got into a conversation of, like. Well, was she not expecting anyone to be here? Is she even in this room? Like, does she wander the hotel? And also we were. Then it got into a conversation about the antiques and stuff in the hotel and in this room, like, it's hard to know. And I guess this is the issue with the paranormal or, like, partially the fun of it, too. It's like, you don't have answers. You don't know definitively if a haunting is xyz. Spirit specifically. But we found that when we were just chatting and gabbing like girlfriends, the flame would kind of go off as if she was contributing. So tonight we're gonna do face masks and room service in the room and kind of just hang out with Annalisa and have a girls night.

[Sabrina]

Oh, that's such a good idea. I think that's what she wants. I feel like that's. Yeah, that's what brings. And like, Sabrina and I have been quite a few haunted places before and often bring that sort of energy in. And it does. Like, the people who are with us who've been to haunted places like that specific place before are always like, why is there so much more happening tonight? And it's probably because it's like, if you just are there to have fun.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And not provoke anything or, like, set expectations where it's like, you have to perform, you have to talk, then it works out better. Yeah.

[Meredith]

Otherwise, it's like all the same thing. It's like, if you're a ghost in this room and the only people that come in are asking you the same questions, are you in the room with us? And how do you feel about what happened to you? I'm sure that they're like, I just want to hear some tea.

[Corinne]

Right.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

I just want a good story.

[Corinne]

Give me something new. Yeah, yeah.

[Sabrina]

What's new on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City?

[Corinne]

Wait, that's literally what I said. There's no TV in here, though. But I was like, we should just on my computer, put on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and, like, give her some new entertainment.

[Sabrina]

Oh, give her a taste.

[Corinne]

More interference.

[Meredith]

More interference.

[Sabrina]

It is interesting though, too, because, like, Meredith, to your point of being asked the same questions, it's also one of those things where, like, you have no idea. The last people that came in to investigate, what their intentions were, how they went about it, if it was really scary, maybe like, for the spirits in the room too, where, like, you're the next one coming in. And so there's this huge guard up and they're just like, rejecting anything.

[Corinne]

I'm also interaction curious what the cleaning and cleansing routine is, because it. There was one time when we were walking back to room 313 from, like, the lobby, which you had to pass 3:11 to get to 3:13. And as we were passing this door, I got like a woo. Like, almost like a wooshi feeling outside of this room, but inside this room, I feel fine. And I was like, I wonder if they do any type of routine cleansing or Even just the products that they use in cleaning the room, does that kind of keep the energy at bay?

[Meredith]

Does Clorox decrease your chances?

[Sabrina]

But like also outside of the room, anyone can walk up to the door. Right? So it's like you're walking through like area or like a piece of energy where so many people come fearful or.

[Corinne]

Anxious and kind of like project right there. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

In front of the door.

[Corinne]

Can we just talk about OCD really quick? Because I know it's something you've experienced, but it's a very serious and also highly misunderstood condition.

[Sabrina]

Oh yeah. My mom sent me to therapy when I was 14 because I couldn't walk down a hallway. If I accidentally scuffed one of my ankles, I'd have to stop and scuff the other one until it felt right. And the same thing would happen with my fingers. Like I'd have to touch something. Oh my gosh. It like totally got in the way of my daily functioning. But that.

[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

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[Corinne]

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[Sabrina]

That's cool, man.

[Corinne]

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[Meredith]

Well, also, I will say we haven't mentioned this yet and I think it could be relevant. We spent like the end of our night in this room. Yeah, like that's what we did at the end of the night, like after dinner, whatever. And we were both nauseous last night.

[Corinne]

We were. That's true.

[Meredith]

And that's might be more regular for you, but it's irregular for me. Yeah, I like never get nauseated. And I felt it all night.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

For kind of no reason.

[Sabrina]

Wow.

[Meredith]

And I know that I blame it.

[Corinne]

On my like dehydration from the day, but it could very much be.

[Sabrina]

Wait, so did you stay in the room last night or did you sleep in 3:13 confession?

[Corinne]

We slept in 3:13 and tonight we're gonna sleep in 3:11. Because my travel day was so crazy that I was like, we did like an hour and a half investigation and just like hung out in here for a little bit. But we were like, let's get a good night's sleep in the normal room. And then. Cause also this bed, Meredith and I will be spooning tonight because it is. It is a small bed.

[Meredith]

It is a small bed.

[Corinne]

So I'm also curious if, like, sleeping here when we're not actively interacting, like, if she or any spirit will become more. More. More active.

[Meredith]

I think it was the good move though, because you were just came in.

[Corinne]

Delusional late and I was like, what is reality?

[Meredith]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Well, and then you probably conked out so hard that, oh, yeah, if anything did happen, you might not.

[Corinne]

I would not have noticed. So fair. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Oh, I'm so curious how tonight will go.

[Corinne]

We were thinking of doing a live stream too. So by the time this episode comes out, there will be a link to that where if you can re watch it. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Okay.

[Meredith]

So crazy.

[Sabrina]

Okay, well, text me updates because, you know, I'm awake at all, all hours of the night. I actually checked your location, Sabrina, at like 2:00am and I was like, okay, good. She's there. She's.

[Corinne]

She's there. But she's in Appalachia, so who knows? I mean, that's the thing about this hotel. It's in Appalachia. And I gave the context of the history here. The Trail of Tears, the Cherokee, and like the Civil War, American Revolution. There's so much history Al Capone on top of the tragic murder of Annalisa here, that I'm like, anything could happen.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, anything.

[Corinne]

So stay tuned.

[Sabrina]

Damn. I actually, you know what? I really respect that they don't have the room open to stay in every night because I feel like there's just to your point, like, so much has happened that everyone needs a breather. Everyone needs a break.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Meredith]

It's a good move.

[Corinne]

Yeah. Instead of like harassing her constantly.

[Sabrina]

And now you get to have girls night, girls night, ghouls night.

[Meredith]

I know, but I'll be a little bit nervous since this is still when the REM pod went off that one time in the bathroom.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Oh, it did go off.

[Corinne]

Oh, that's okay. Yes. The REM pod went. So the REM pod's the one thing and the flame were, like, the only things that had activity. We were sitting in this room just talking, and I had said, like, if you want us to go into the bathroom, like, the REM pod's in there. You can totally just, like, activate it. And it went off. Do you want us to come into the bathroom? I feel like that's a. Yeah. We moved into the bathroom, and it was going off, like, while we were sitting there. It was really loud, and I was like, oh, maybe it was just, like, our energy, like, it's us, and it was absolutely not us. It's, you know, like that, like, trying to rationalize something. But, yeah, it was clearly not us because it then it stopped and then never did it again. That might be me. That might be me, though. Oh, watch her for the plane. Oh, I think that would have been bad.

[Sabrina]

Okay. It might not be you.

[Meredith]

And the bathroom is where everything went down. So there was something else.

[Sabrina]

Are you setting everything up tonight, too, and you're just not interacting with it, but, like, letting things run?

[Corinne]

Well, we'll do, like, a little. If we do the live stream, which we will. We'll do the live stream investigation. So we'll do an interaction then. But then after that, yeah, we're just doing some good snacks and real house vibes. Or some. Or some. Or maybe heated Rivalry. Because Meredith hasn't watched it.

[Sabrina]

Yes.

[Meredith]

I haven't seen it yet. And I really watched it.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God.

[Corinne]

I feel like she would love it.

[Meredith]

I know. I'm, like, so behind on the times. I'm like, I haven't done a paranormal investigation. I haven't seen Heated rivalry.

[Sabrina]

Don't even get me started on heated. My mom. I tried to talk to my mom about it, and she interrupted me at one point and said, wow, you really have more to say about this, huh? Because I, like, couldn't stop talking about it. It's such a good freaking show, and you guys should definitely watch it tonight.

[Corinne]

Annalisa, do you want to watch it?

[Sabrina]

I, like, posted on my Instagram that.

[Corinne]

That it's all you can think about.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. And a few people were like, oh, I can't wait to hear you and Sabrina talk about it on your podcast. And I responded to those people. And I was like, well, we attempted to, but I started crying pretty much immediately. So I'm not really gonna get much.

[Corinne]

And I also haven't. It's a good idea to watch the first episode. So I have to. We can restart it.

[Meredith]

All my friends have been texting me about it. I just honestly haven't gotten to it. But one of my friends texted me, I'm addicted to this Russian man's tears. What is that? Is there someone who's Russian?

[Corinne]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Meredith]

Okay, gotcha. All right. I was like, that's a very interesting text to receive. I'm intrigued about this show and I.

[Corinne]

Think Annalisa will be interested in.

[Sabrina]

And Annalisa is gonna love it. It is going to blow her mind when she sees it.

[Corinne]

Yeah. This is the type of stuff that, like, you know when people turn on the TV for their pets when they leave for the day. Yes. Like, I feel like they should have some type of entertainment for Annalisa during the times when no one's here.

[Meredith]

I know there's only a radio in here, but does it work? Is that the radio?

[Corinne]

I think so. It's an old timey radio.

[Meredith]

I guess we should try that.

[Corinne]

Yeah, we'll put it on. Oh, Ooh, ooh. Is that a yes? That's a yes.

[Meredith]

I think someone wants the radio on.

[Sabrina]

Wait, what just happened?

[Corinne]

Interference again.

[Meredith]

It's very, like, pointed interference.

[Corinne]

It's truly the three times that we've had interference in the headphones has been the three times, like, we talked specifically about doing something with Annalisa.

[Sabrina]

Oh, hell yeah. She likes you guys. Now she's in.

[Corinne]

Let's do it again. Wow.

[Sabrina]

Okay.

[Corinne]

Amazing. We're. We're gonna do it.

[Meredith]

Yes. Heated rivalry and face masks.

[Corinne]

Yes. And ghosts. Dream night. Right.

[Meredith]

And ghosts. Yes.

[Sabrina]

She also has some opinions about Hudson and Connor.

[Corinne]

Oh.

[Sabrina]

Or Ilya and Chain.

[Corinne]

Their character names. Yeah.

[Meredith]

Hudson and Connor. Yeah.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Sorry, I'm too. I'm too deep. Yeah, you're so deep.

[Corinne]

You're so deep. You know the real names of everyone's parents, but yeah. This is the Reed House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And the haunted room 3 11, which again, you can stay at on the Friday the 13th of every year but 2026. It's February, March and November, so you can reserve the room for yourself and let us know if you have anything happen. And also check out Meredith's podcast, Rattled and Shook. What else do you have going on? Where can they find you?

[Meredith]

Mostly I do audio stuff at YouTube, of course, and Instagram. Those are probably the two next best places besides Apple. Podcasts, Spotify, whatever.

[Corinne]

Wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Meredith]

Wherever you listen to your podcasts.

[Corinne]

Thanks. Thanks for joining me so that I didn't have to be here Honestly, I'm having a blast.

[Meredith]

Like, I can't believe you guys have done this so much.

[Corinne]

It's so fun.

[Sabrina]

It's the best.

[Meredith]

It's really thrilling.

[Sabrina]

I'm so excited for you that you get to have your first paranormal experiences here.

[Corinne]

I know.

[Sabrina]

And, like, in such a unique setting where not that many people get access to this place either.

[Meredith]

I know. And when Sabrina texted me, I think I had just been like, my New Year's resolution is, like, to do more things I haven't done before. And then, like, a day later, you were like, you want to stay in a haunted room? And I was like, all right, well, yes, I do.

[Sabrina]

Look at that. You're manifesting. You're speaking into the universe.

[Corinne]

So when your friends text you, hey, do you want to stay at a haunted hotel with me? Always say yes.

[Meredith]

Always say yes.

[Corinne]

And that's why we are ghoul friends and girlfriends over jilted lovers this Valentine's Day.

[Meredith]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Well, happy investigating tonight.

[Corinne]

Thanks. Thanks. And happy Friday 13th to everyone who's listening. Yay. We're back.

[Sabrina]

Back so soon, Sabrina.

[Corinne]

Because literally within the last 24 hours, so much has happened, and I. Obviously, we were like, we need to update you. I texted Corinne. I was like, we need to record an addendum to episode 359. And here we are. Because, my gosh, have we learned some stories? Have we experienced some things? And I feel like I have a whole Hypothesis surrounding Room 311 at the Reed House Hotel now. Oh, dang.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God. A lot changed in 24 hours. No, seriously, I thought you were just gonna be like, we made contact.

[Corinne]

Well, we did. Okay, so as context, we recorded the episode, and Meredith and I told you, Corinne, that, like, we really didn't have many hauntings happen. We had, like, little things but nothing of note. And, like, it was the first time ever that ghost tube has been radio silent. Right. I believe Annalisa was trying to, like, feel us out last night.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Because today. Or I guess yesterday now. But when we immediately ended recording, we had campfire stories on Patreon, and we decided, let's do, like, a little, like, impromptu paranormal investigation. Let's just see. And I didn't expect anything to happen because last night, Annalisa was so quiet. But, my gosh, she was responsive, and.

[Sabrina]

It was very specific what she was responding to.

[Corinne]

So specific, she told us to call her Ann. Ann.

[Meredith]

Ann.

[Corinne]

Annalisa. It just said Ann, and her name is Annalisa. Did you go by Ann? Do you want us to Call you Anne. She kept saying Mary. And I really believe now, like, after everything that we learned, because the story has been skewed so many ways. Like some people called her a sex worker. All of this stuff I think she was really trying to emphasize, like, it was important for people to know that she was married. Like, that she wants to get her story straight. She was married. Her husband married her.

[Sabrina]

Because we were also based on some of the responses that came through during that investigation, we were wondering if some of her responses meant that her husband was having an affair and she was name dropping the women that he was having an affair with.

[Corinne]

I think both is true. I think he was for sure. He was traveling for work. He was in Chicago. Who knows what he was doing? And I think she believes he was having an affair as well or multiple. Because she said cheating. This is not the battle. Kimberly. Kimberly. Is there a Kimberly here on Campfire Stories, Eric asked if Anna, if that's.

[Meredith]

Andrea, what do you make of Andrea and Kimberly?

[Corinne]

Yeah, I don't know. Cheating. Cheating.

[Sabrina]

He was cheating too.

[Corinne]

And you can watch back the whole live investigation. It's on Patreon to rewatch. But yeah, she said cheating. She called him pathetic, weak, and a bunch of different things. And then later, Meredith and I did do a tour with Mr. Spaulding, which if you go to visit the Reid House Hotel and you choose not to stay in haunted room 311, you can ask for a tour. Neither Mr. Kirby or Mr. Spaulding will give you a tour and take you into room 311 and tell you the story. But Mr. Spaulding told us that it's very possible her husband actually paid the cops off.

[Sabrina]

Oh, shit.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And I actually loved his turn of phrase that he used was to sweep it under the tub.

[Sabrina]

Oh, that's like brilliant and also so upsetting. I know, but okay. So when we left Campfire Stores, it seemed like she was excited for the girls night that was planned. Like, she started responding to the idea of that.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And this is the biggest takeaway. I'll say it now. I think she hates men, rightfully so. And she wants to be respected. I think she views that room very much as her place. And I'll tell you another story that I learned, but I really just genuinely believe she just wants to be respected and doesn't like men. I think that is the biggest takeaway.

[Sabrina]

Which, like, I do hope, because she did have. So the story goes, she entertained many different male suitors while her husband was traveling for work to satiate her needs and I do hope that, like, she found comfort and trustworthiness in some of those people and that it's not just like a blanket. Every single man in her life has wronged her. Because that makes me really sad.

[Corinne]

No, and I don't think they did. But I just think since then, she just doesn't trust men, which I don't blame her.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, there's a weariness to it. It's like her husband killed her. Cops were bought off. There's no reason to really trust the guy who married you, who's supposed to care for you and love you. Killed you.

[Corinne]

Killed you. And I did learn more context. So Mr. Spaulding told us that according to the historians at the hotel, her husband. So Mr. Netherly was on the train in Chicago, and I guess there was some other man on the train talking very loudly about his amazing stay at the Reed House Hotel and Ms. Annalisa and how he, like, can't wait to go back to see her again. And that's how he learned about the affair.

[Sabrina]

Oh, damn. Yeah, that's such a bummer. Because it's like, also, like, those things don't make it true just because someone said something.

[Corinne]

I know, I know.

[Sabrina]

Like, I. I feel like a lot of people, I've been on the receiving end of someone saying something happened between us, and there's this whole story, and I find out, and I'm like, who's this person? Wait, when was this?

[Corinne]

I'm sorry. Where'd this come from?

[Sabrina]

Yeah, like, why?

[Corinne]

But okay, so two other big things. One, she asked for a brandy, which. So later in the night, Meredith and I did bring her brandy. But two, during our investigation on Campire stories, she said, baby and protect. And she kept talking about this child. And we were like, that's so strange. Cause no record ever has her pregnant or having a baby. Right. And then this is wild. Cause later in the night, Mr. Spaulding was giving us a tour, and he goes, a lot of people have caught photos of her that she looks pregnant. And she shows up to children a lot and is very protective of children. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my God, I have chills.

[Corinne]

And he showed us two photos. Oh, they were so chill. I wasn't allowed to take photos of them, to provide the photos for you. But if you do the tour at the Reed House Hotel, they will show you the photos as well. But there were two. One of them was in the bathroom mirror, and she's, like, very much looking at the person. And I think it was, like a bellhop who was giving People a tour. And then the other one is. She's standing kind of in the middle of the room, and she has her hair in a bun. It's like, dark hair. And she's wearing this, like, whiteish, grayish dress. And she's often seen wearing white in the building. But the craziest story that Mr. Spalding told us, and this was, like, one of the biggest reasons why I was like, oh, my God, we need to. We need to have an addendum. So as the story goes, a couple was staying in the room they had checked in. And not, like, a couple hours later, does the front desk get a call. And the night auditor who still works there, and it's still the night auditor of the Reed House Hotel picks up, and the woman is freaking out, and she's like, I need another room. My husband is acting in a way I have never, ever seen before. I need to get out of here. I need another room. Obviously, they're, like, concerned. They send up two of the, like, the wait staff who are on duty to go, like, assist. I think one of them's name is Dylan. I can't remember the other woman's name. But they get up there, and they get to the room. The husband is literally writhing on the ground as if he is possessed.

[Sabrina]

I feel like it's at the point where they shouldn't let men stay there, right?

[Corinne]

But, okay, so then the woman's, like, freaking out. She's like, I've never seen him like this. He's only had a couple of drinks. I don't know what's happening. The woman on the waitstaff goes into the bathroom, brings, like, a, you know, glass and fills it up with water. And then she, like, sprinkles the water on the man's face, like, I don't know, trying to, like, help him. He literally starts weeping and says, I can feel her tears. I can feel her tears. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Sabrina]

Holy crap. I am so curious what this guy, like, once he fully came out of the room and that experience, what he remembers, Right?

[Corinne]

And, I mean, there's no, like, end to that story.

[Sabrina]

Wait, so how does. Okay, so, Mr. We have two men who are giving the tours. How does she respond to them?

[Corinne]

Right? So, Mr. Spaulding, we did ask him that, and he was like, I really do think. And I hope she knows how much I respect her and appreciate her. And I'm, like, trying to tell her story. And I think because he's trying to tell her side of the story, she respects him. And also, she probably Is familiar with him. Whereas these people who are staying the night in room 311, myself included, were strangers. We're new to her. We're only there for a short period of time. And her husband used to smoke a lot, so she doesn't like smokers. And I think probably is cautious about too much alcohol, too. So I do think it was, like, really beneficial that it was just Meredith and I. It was two girls, and there was no romance, no romantic relationship. You know, I feel like for Annalisa, she didn't have to fear for the woman. And I like to think that she was. Even in the story that I just told, I like to think that she was trying to be protective in a way.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. It makes a lot of sense to me now, like, knowing that she appears pregnant and that she appears so much to children, and then her even coming through saying, like, baby and protect. You and Meredith were saying how surprised you were, how silent it was. It was like she had totally retreated and was not engaging at all.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

And that does feel reminiscent of, like, a moment who's trying to protect her child. It's just like, there is no interaction. There's no risk taking. It is just like, this is what I think is the safe route, and this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to not engage. I'm going to retreat. I'm going to protect me and my child. And if danger comes, which is a man, I'm going to attack.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And then I think because Meredith and I spent so much time in the room, she started to realize, like, oh, maybe I can hang out with them. Yeah. And we did. We hung out. And I learned. Okay, so, like, the night. Well, actually, one more thing about Al Capone. Cause when we did the livestream, we weren't sure whether or not Al Capone stayed in the room before or after Annalisa was murdered. Tragically, Mr. Spaulding told us that the murder happened in 1927. Al Capone stayed in the hotel in 1931. And I'm pretty sure we'll have to go back and look at the live stream, But I think Annalisa made a comment when we were talking about Al Capone in the vein of, like, weak or pathetic, like, kind of making fun of him. And So I asked Mr. Spalding. I was like, is there any record of him experiencing any hauntings in this room? Because I imagine she would hate him. Like, that's, like, the last person you want staying in your room if you're Annalisa. And apparently Al Capone went to say that he experienced no hauntings. Like, very out loud. Said no hauntings, which almost, like, is like, oh, you're trying to cover it up. Like, why would you even address it if there were no hauntings? Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Why would you declare only four years later? I definitely did not experience hauntings in that room.

[Corinne]

Right. And then he also apparently told people he would never stay at the Reed House Hotel again, which makes me think he did have some experiences, because why.

[Sabrina]

Else would he think that? It's a beautiful place.

[Corinne]

I know. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

That's a real suspicious. Yeah. I think Al Capone's a bad actor here. I think he definitely encountered her spirit, for sure.

[Corinne]

Okay, so then Meredith and I had a girls night with Annalisa. You asked for two things earlier. You said brandy and beer. So here's your brandy. You can actually have either glass. But we were gonna cheers with you and have some.

[Meredith]

Oh, yes.

[Corinne]

And then here is your beer.

[Sabrina]

Cheers.

[Meredith]

Cheers.

[Corinne]

Thank you so much for. Welcome. Cheers. Girls night.

[Meredith]

Girls night.

[Corinne]

We just ordered pizza, too, and it's gonna be here soon. And wings. And wings. And salad.

[Sabrina]

And salad.

[Corinne]

Because we're girls and we're healthy.

[Sabrina]

Watching our figure.

[Corinne]

We're watching our figs. No, we're not.

[Meredith]

You think I am. I. I have, like, downed everything.

[Corinne]

My diet is of candy. Right, right, right. Don't, don't, don't. Don't wash your finger. Girls.

[Sabrina]

Girl.

[Meredith]

That's unreal.

[Corinne]

And I think, okay, two things. She loves her brandy. She also asked. We had gotten glasses of champagne, and she asked for the champagne specifically, and we were like, sure, Here, have our champagne. She kept asking questions about heated rivalry. Like, who's that? What is this?

[Sabrina]

Okay, so you did watch it. Yeah.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

I wasn't sure if you guys were going to, because I was definitely, like, pushing hard that you guys watched the new rivalry. But then on Campfire Story, someone was like, well, is that the best choice for her because of her views of men? Is she gonna feel weird about that show? I was like, I think the opposite. I think this is her moment to see the tenderness and care.

[Corinne]

I will say, though, was kind of like watching with your mom who doesn't stop asking questions. But by episode two, she was very quiet, and I think just sat back and watched. Do you want to watch heated rivalry?

[Sabrina]

I do.

[Corinne]

He lost for a. Agreed. He's not here. No, they're not here. All right, great. Who is that?

[Meredith]

I don't know his name.

[Corinne]

I think that's Shane. And then Ilia is the Russian one. He's not here.

[Meredith]

He's not here.

[Corinne]

We're not here. Okay.

[Meredith]

Corroborate.

[Corinne]

Pleased. Or she did say at one point, she said, I'm leaving. So maybe she got bored. Or maybe she, like, went to go somewhere else in the hotel, which is also around the same time it was around.

[Sabrina]

Or maybe she. Maybe she just got a little too into it and she was like, I. I can't be here anymore. I gotta go sit in my own thoughts and feelings for a minute.

[Corinne]

But it was also around the same time that, like. So on Monday night, when I first got there, we started doing like, an investigation of the room around 11pm and that was when it was like, radio silent. And when she left last night was around 11pm as well. So I'm like, I don't know if that. Maybe that's her, like, me time.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. Well, I mean. Cause Meredith even made a comment about how much more chatty she was during the day.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Seemed to be be more of a day person and then maybe quieter and more restful at night, which, honestly, I feel like, makes sense because I feel like most people who are seeking out that room and like, attempting to make contact or do some sort of, like, investigation of sorts, it typically happens at night because that's when, like, ghost hunting happens, you know? So I wonder if she's used to just kind of being more avoidant at night. Yeah.

[Corinne]

She's like, I don't want to deal with that.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

She was also very protective of her space. Like, there were multiple times she. She said disrespectful. Like, we had ordered pizza and I. My thought was like, let's eat in bed. And I, like, got on the bed with the pizza and she said, disrespectful. Home. We're home. Does this feel like home to you? Disrespectful.

[Meredith]

We shouldn't put pizza on.

[Corinne]

Oh, that's fair. Sorry. Is that better? Do you want us to eat in the living room? And then we moved to the living room. And she was like, that's better. This is my home.

[Sabrina]

That makes sense. And she did confirm for us that there used to be some sort of, like, kitchenette.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

In her room. So I wonder if, like, you moving into the living room is kind of like where the kitchenette had been rolled in for her when she was staying there.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

So like, that made sense to her. Like, you eat over here.

[Corinne]

Yep.

[Sabrina]

This is the dining space.

[Corinne]

Respect my place. Follow my rules. I also did have to go to the bathroom. I had a pee. And I, for Before I did, I asked her because the bathroom is where she lost her life. You know? Like, I just. I didn't want to go. One, I didn't want to go in the bathroom and get haunted. And two, I also wanted to, like, make sure she was okay with it. So I asked. I said, I have to go to the bathroom. Do you mind if I use your restroom? And she said, leave. So I went to go pee in our other room. Yeah, Girls night starts now.

[Sabrina]

I do need a pee.

[Corinne]

Is it okay if I pee in the bathroom with you? Danger.

[Meredith]

Oh.

[Corinne]

Oh. So no.

[Meredith]

Okay, we'll go. We will go in the other room. Honestly heard.

[Corinne]

Okay, it's dangerous to go. Please leave. So don't pee in there. Oh, he's all right. We will leave. We will not use your restroom. We will leave.

[Meredith]

We will be able back.

[Corinne]

Noted. Wow.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, that's an interesting point where it's like, you know, like, you had another room. Most people who stay in 3:11, that's where they're staying. They don't book a separate room as backup.

[Corinne]

So just explain to her what you're doing and tell her you mean it in respect. You just have to use the restroom. You'll be. You'll clean up after yourself. You'll wash your hands. You won't disrespect her place. I think that's the key takeaway.

[Sabrina]

It's also, I'm sure, very hard for her to watch people, especially couples who spend the night, just go through their nightly routine, use the bathroom, brush their teeth, then get into bed with one another. And she's like, I would imagine that that does feel incredibly disrespectful. It's like you're living a different version of a relationship in life that I didn't get to live. And you're doing it right where I was attacked and murdered and died in.

[Corinne]

A place that she also views as hers. Like, this is my room.

[Sabrina]

Yes.

[Corinne]

Because it's not like the hotel is open every single night for people to stay in this room. And she's used to people coming in and out. It's like, it's, I think, Saturdays and Octobers on Halloween and then Friday the 13th. So not that often are guests coming into this room.

[Sabrina]

Right.

[Corinne]

But the hotel does always have a backup room available just in case. Cause they. They've had enough experience of people staying in room three every day needing another room. Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Oh, amazing. Oh, I wish I could see those photos.

[Corinne]

I know, I know. I'll ask them if they will send them to you. And I. So you can see them. But yeah, they're wild.

[Sabrina]

Some of the best paranormal footage is honestly, like, from hotels or like ghost tours, places like this, where it's. Other people have captured the photos, sent them to the organization, the business running it, and then they like, show it on tours. Right. But it doesn't exist on the Internet.

[Corinne]

It's not on the Internet, which is so wild.

[Sabrina]

One of the best pieces of evidence I ever saw of a shadow person was from Bulldog Tours in the old Charleston jail five, six years ago. That is wild. But, like, you don't ever get to see it anywhere outside of.

[Corinne]

One of my favorites is the one we saw at the Lizzie Borden house. That video of the closet and the shadow.

[Sabrina]

Yeah.

[Corinne]

Oh. So if you want to see the photos, go visit the Reid House Hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Also, remember earlier in this episode, I did talk about how people experience hauntings in elevators. Meredith and I are leaving. We pack our bags, we get into the elevator. We press lobby. All of a sudden we are all the way up at the top. The elevator doors never open. It goes up all the way to floor 10 and then goes all the way back down, counts all the way back down and brings us to the lobby randomly. Doors never open.

[Sabrina]

Maybe it was her little send off, her little goodbye to you guys.

[Corinne]

I absolutely believe it was. Yeah. It was like such an incredible day.

[Sabrina]

Activity for the second night. Second day and second night.

[Corinne]

I know. Amazing.

[Sabrina]

Because there was still. There was a lot coming through with that live stream.

[Corinne]

Yeah, it was so cool.

[Sabrina]

So we. Did you sleep in that room the second night? Cause you guys said that you were planning to.

[Corinne]

No. So we stayed in the room until like 12:30. And actually later, Meredith and I just. We paused. Heated rivalry. And then she and I were just talking and we went to lay on the bed. And she did say disrespectful. So we went to our other room.

[Sabrina]

All right. Well, yeah, you had the option to not be there, so.

[Corinne]

And then in our room. Cause it was the room like basically right next to 3:11. Meredith kept seeing little, like, movements in the corner of her eye as we were going to sleep. So Annalisa might have come to our.

[Sabrina]

Room, I don't know, checking in on you guys, making sure you stay exactly where you are.

[Corinne]

Yeah.

[Sabrina]

Or maybe just like curious about your friendship too.

[Corinne]

Maybe especially.

[Sabrina]

Cause you just showed her heated rivalry.

[Corinne]

That's true. She's like, what's really going on?

[Sabrina]

And then she's watching you guys get into bed together and she's like.

[Meredith]

Oh.

[Sabrina]

Man, this century's a little different than mine. It's better. Girls night, crows night.

[Corinne]

I think she enjoyed it. I think she liked it.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my gosh, what a great stay.

[Corinne]

It was so incredible. Loved it. And everyone at the hotel. So nice. Like, just the. The sweetest people.

[Sabrina]

Oh, my gosh. Well, great. I hope people get to book it and stay there and experience it if they want. Or just like, like you said, do the tours.

[Corinne]

Yeah. And if you do, you have to tell us what happens. We need to know your experience.

[Sabrina]

Yeah. And if they show any new photos or new evidence when you get to take the tour, because I'm sure they're always collecting stuff.

[Corinne]

Because Mr. Kirby, I guess, has a different tour than Mr. Spaulding. I mean, it's the same information, but they're different people and they give different theatrical performances. Yeah. Like an amazing, amazing hotel and trip. So thank you, all of you, for joining us for this little addendum to the episode.

[Sabrina]

Now hard cut back to the regularly recorded episode.

[Corinne]

Thank you, everyone, for joining us. If you have any listener stories, if you've stayed in room 311 or have any haunted experiences in Chattanooga at the Reed House Hotel or just any paranormal experiences at all, Please email us at 2girlsonghostpodcastmail.com Go check out Rattled and Shook. And check us out on Patreon. You know, all the things.

[Sabrina]

Shout out to Gemma.

[Corinne]

Whoa.

[Sabrina]

You could buy the little couple, Jamie and Emma. Jamie and Emma for producing our podcast, Shout out to Gemma. And thank you to all of you. We love you and we will see you on the other side.

[Corinne]

Very spooky.

[Sabrina]

Thanks for listening.

[Corinne]

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