Episode 363 - Reddit Scary Stories | The Creepiest EVPs & Paranormal Evidence

Summary

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Two Girls One Ghost — Episode 363: Reddit Scary Stories | The Creepiest EVPs & Paranormal Evidence

Date: March 8, 2026
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into some of the creepiest and most convincing EVPs (Electronic Voice Phenomena) and paranormal evidence sourced from Reddit and listeners. Corinne and Sabrina explore chilling audio clips, debate possible meanings, share personal psychic moments, and include firsthand listener stories. The focus is on evaluating what makes paranormal evidence convincing—and unsettling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Catching Up: Personal Updates, Podcast Milestones, and Imposter YouTube Channels

Starts at 02:27

• Illness and Old School Vibes: The hosts return after being ill, reminiscing on how recording feels nostalgic.
• Imposter Alert: They recount a recent incident where someone recreated their YouTube channel, copying content and even engaging with fans through comments (04:08).
• "It was kind of a thrill… pretty stressful too." — Corinne (04:36)
• Listener Community Spotted the Fake: Several listeners helped uncover the imposter by commenting on their genuine videos.
• Social Media Safety: Quick reminder of the risks of having an online audience and the need for vigilance.

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Sabrina’s Personal Psychic Experience with Gateway Tapes

Starts at 06:01

• Meditation & the Gateway Tapes: Sabrina shares a meditation experience after months away from the practice. She describes intense sensory and psychic phenomena.
• “Literally felt like my lower half of my body was, like, severed off of me. But not in a painful way, just like my body didn’t exist.” — Sabrina (08:31)
• Remote Viewing/Precognition: She repeatedly envisions their friend, Whitney, feeling stalked. Hours later, Whitney confirms a real-life incident matching these visions—a stranger placed an AirTag in her bag at a dog park.
• Syncing Psychic Hits: Corinne also felt a strong urge to reach out to Whitney around the same time. The hosts discuss shared psychic experiences and the nature of intuition.
• Paranormal & Empathic Connections: Both hosts reflect on their own and each other's psychic moments, sometimes doubting themselves but learning to trust these “hits.”
• Quote: "You time traveled. You literally saw into the past and witnessed… like, you time traveled." — Corinne (13:35)

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Deep Dive: Reddit’s Creepiest EVPs and Paranormal Evidence

Main segment starts at 17:42

What is an EVP?

Brief explanation (21:36)

• Electronic Voice Phenomenon: Unexplained voices/sounds captured on recordings, sometimes not heard during the recording itself.

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EVP #1: Ogden Exchange Building “Child in Water”

Timestamps: 26:14 – 36:44

• Source: Art Bell’s Coast to Coast (April 2, 2005) / Reddit user Oxum's Razor
• Location: Ogden Exchange Building, Utah. Recording by Ghost Investigator Society (GIS).
• Context: The building was abandoned; no water, no children present. Laptop left recording in an empty room.
• EVP Content: After silence, sounds of water splashing and a child’s voice saying "I can’t breathe," interrupted by a deep, possibly demonic voice.
• Quote: “My heart is racing… it feels wrong.” — Corinne (33:36)
• Possible Interpretation: Hosts and Redditors believe it may be audio of a child drowning—a chilling slice of residual haunting.
• Discussion: Both are deeply unsettled by how vivid and contextually off-the-charts this EVP is.

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EVP #2: Martha Washington Inn Ballroom — "Jake's an Asshole"?

Timestamps: 37:25 – 41:22

• Source: Reddit user QuailMain9957
• Context: Audio captured in a ballroom; unclear statement.
• Hosts’ Interpretations Differ:
  • Corinne hears “Get down from there. Go the other way.”
  • Sabrina hears, “Jake’s an asshole. Go away.”
• Quote: “People trying to post what they heard kept getting deleted, so I do think people were hearing a curse word.” — Sabrina (38:58)
• Fun Segment: The ambiguity of EVPs and the “Yanny/Laurel effect.” Listeners encouraged to weigh in.

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EVP #3: Haunted Dairy Ranch Affair — “Coming Back”

Timestamps: 42:14 – 45:49

• Source: Reddit user Jackshid
• Location: Former dairy ranch with tragic history (murder-suicide).
• EVP: Voice mutters “coming back” or “she’s coming back.” Some hear “fuck, he’s coming back.”
• Quote: “Like, it’s almost like a clearing of the throat… it could be the moment of like, oh shit, she’s coming back.” — Sabrina (45:18)
• Discussion: The ambiguity again—and a juicy backstory involving murder and betrayal.

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Gettysburg Battlefield Video — Marching Ghosts

Timestamps: 46:03 – 49:40

• Source Video: Family records multiple apparitions at different heights seemingly “marching” behind a rock on the battlefield.
• Hosts’ Analysis:
  • The apparitions appear to duck behind a rock, then stand tall—possibly a residual haunting reenacting a Civil War march.
  • The evidence’s renown in the ghost hunting community is discussed.
• Quote: "You could do 400 episodes on Gettysburg..." — Sabrina (49:13)

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The Sally House Demonic Basement EVP

Timestamps: 52:53 – 61:52

• Background: Famously haunted Kansas house. The spirit “Sally” is possibly not a little girl, but a dark entity. The house has a long history of physical attacks, especially on men.
• Live Sci Fi Investigation: Two striking EVPs from the basement:
  • EVP 1 (58:42): In response to “Do you believe in God?” a deep voice retorts “No help there” or “He’s not up there.”
  • EVP 2: In response to “Is this how you show love, by inflicting pain?” hosts hear “you think,” “sick,” or “Nick”—followed by real-life evidence of scratch marks on an investigator’s neck.
• Quote: “Either way, it feels like it’s mocking.” — Sabrina (59:16)
• Reflection: The “Carl” phenomenon at Lizzie Borden House — negative entities may arise from intense emotional energy.

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Listener Evidence: Vanderbilt Mansion & Poolside Apparition

Timestamps: 69:58 – 77:55

• Sarah (Vanderbilt Mansion): Captures a whisper on Snapchat; several interpretations (“I died in this house” / “I die for this” etc.), demonstrating the elusive nature of EVPs.
• Annette (Apparition Photo): Photo at a pool post-family member’s passing appears to show her ghost swimming with the family. Hosts note how the ghostly face appears unusually white, likely due to exposure but nonetheless haunting.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You time traveled. You literally saw into the past and witnessed… like, you time traveled.” — Corinne (13:35)
• “My heart is racing… it feels wrong.” — Corinne (33:36) [After the child-drowning EVP]
• “People trying to post what they heard kept getting deleted, so I do think people were hearing a curse word.” — Sabrina (38:58) [On the Martha Washington Inn EVP]
• “You could do 400 episodes on Gettysburg...” — Sabrina (49:13)
• “Either way, it feels like it’s mocking.” — Sabrina (59:16) [On the Sally House EVP]
• "If you have your own paranormal evidence, please share it with us. The universe is calling you!" — Hosts (77:59)

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Episode Structure & Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 02:27 — Personal catch-up & imposter YouTube channel drama
• 06:01 — Sabrina’s psychic/meditation story (“Gateway Tapes” and sensing a stalking incident)
• 17:42 — Introduction to main topic: Reddit’s best paranormal evidence
• 26:14 — Ogden Exchange Building EVP: child, water, and demonic voice
• 37:25 — Martha Washington Inn EVP: "Jake’s an asshole"? (auditory illusions)
• 42:14 — Dairy Ranch EVP: "Coming back" / historic murder context
• 46:03 — Gettysburg Battlefield marching ghost video
• 52:53 — The Sally House: history and chilling basement EVPs
• 69:58 — Listener submissions: Vanderbilt Mansion EVP & pool apparition photo

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Tone, Language, and Style

• Conversational, friendly, humorous, and affectionate (“two ghostesses,” “clutch your clavicle!”)
• Respectful of listener sensitivities (trigger warnings when needed)
• Genuinely spooked by evidence, often echoing the audience’s chills and skepticism
• Encourages listener participation and feedback (“let us know what you hear”)

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Listener Participation & Community

• EVP Interpretation: Hosts repeatedly urge listeners to share their own interpretations of the EVPs played ("Let us know what you hear!").
• Call for Submissions: Listeners invited to email or submit their own paranormal evidence and stories.
• Special Episodes: Promise of a future “Encounters” episode featuring listener EVPs and evidence.

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In Summary

This episode is a spooky thrill ride of real-life psychic moments, bone-chilling Reddit EVPs, legendary haunted places, and firsthand listener accounts. The hosts guide listeners through interpreting eerie audio evidence and reflecting on what makes the paranormal convincing or debatable. Sharing, speculation, debate, and a genuine love of all things creepy tie it all together.

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For more spine-tingling evidence, subscribe, submit your own stories, or join the Discord and Patreon communities. And remember:
"We’ll see you on the other side."

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Transcript

[A]

Sabrina.

[B]

Corrine.

[A]

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[B]

Oh my God. Wait, I need to know more. Tell me. Tell me everything.

[A]

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[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, wait for it. Leveraged the dynamics of the underworld and underworld being a medieval fantasy game.

[B]

Wait, so it's live action role playing gone wrong?

[A]

Horribly wrong. And you can binge all episodes now.

[B]

Oh my God, that sounds so good. I know what I'm doing on my drive home today.

[A]

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[B]

I really need to know what happens.

[A]

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[B]

What podcast, Corinne? Tell us.

[A]

Oh, it's called Blink Jake Handle story. I created it about a man named Jake who I met who is the only survivor of a terminal brain injury illness brought on by heroin use. But there is a lot of mystery and medical malpractice and true crime elements that are very shocking and surprising and even some supernatural elements.

[B]

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[A]

and it's very unique.

[B]

Did such an incredible job telling the story and sharing it with the world. So if you have not listened to it yet, my goodness, where have you been? Because Blink is so freaking good.

[A]

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[B]

Very spooky.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

Hi. I feel like I have not been in this room. Because you haven't for so long. We were ill. We were ill. We were recording like the old days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Giving old school vibes. You were sparkly. Is that your lip gloss? I didn't.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It was on Noah, but I didn't see it before.

[A]

Well, the color has all gone away somehow in the color. And the glitter is jade. It's fenty. I like fenty.

[B]

It's really cute.

[A]

Yeah, thanks. It was like a dark mauve. And now you can't tell it's just my sparkles. Cause I put it on and then immediately ate breakfast. So I'm just left with sparkly, pale lips. I like it, but the color is really pretty if you were able to

[B]

see it one day.

[A]

I'll see it.

[B]

You'll see. But. Hi, everyone.

[A]

Hi. This is two girls, one ghost.

[B]

Two girls, one ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne. Hi, I'm Sabrina.

[A]

And there is an imposter amongst us.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Someone made the fake YouTube.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I thought you were talking about between us.

[A]

I thought you were talking about between all of us. Between you.

[B]

Someone really thought you were gonna, like, call me out for something. And I literally started racking my brain of, like, what did I do?

[A]

Your secrets. I was like, what?

[B]

Did I say something?

[A]

No. Do you really think if I had anything to say, I would say here or not to your face?

[B]

I don't know. What if you needed ev. You needed witnesses to a fight?

[A]

Well, it wouldn't be a no.

[B]

I am sorry that I scared you

[A]

for a second time. No.

[B]

There were imposters amongst us.

[A]

Yes. Guys, we made it. This is like the moment. It feels like maybe this podcast.

[B]

Someone basically stole all of our videos from YouTube and then created a brand new account. And we have to give them credit. The logo that they had was cute.

[A]

We did like the logo, though. It was generated from ChatGPT for sure. For.

[B]

For sure. But they were reposting our videos. Same titles, same thumbnails, same, like literally every copy and paste. They were responding to comments as gave

[A]

us a new name, though, which we won't say because the channel's been taken down now.

[B]

It's been removed, but.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How crazy.

[A]

Yeah, we've made it. It was kind of a thrill, though. Pretty stressful too.

[B]

I know yesterday was one of those days where I feel like. And we're recording this February 18th, so yesterday in context is actually like a week or two when this episode comes out. But I feel like it was one of those days where I was doing so much and I was working for a long time, but I didn't check anything off my list. And I think it's because I spent so much time harassing YouTube and you had to individually go through Every single video.

[A]

I was like, oh, shoot. Okay, we need to do this, we need to do this.

[B]

And you're like, I already done. Oh, I'm in the middle of it.

[A]

I'm reaching out to this person. You were like, oh, whoa.

[B]

Because I saw it at like 10pm the night before. So I had started it that night.

[A]

How did you find it?

[B]

People on our YouTube were like, hey, did you guys start a second channel? And then multiple people on our. I think it's our lake Linear episode. We're being like, hey, like, just so you know, there's a fake account.

[A]

Imposter.

[B]

There was an imposter. Are you watching Traitors?

[A]

No, but you do.

[B]

I haven't watched this season. I've watched clips.

[A]

I tailor everything I say to you, Sabrina.

[B]

Okay, well, I have something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm very excited for today's episode because it is. Let's just say it's terrifying and also incredible evidence. Paranormal evidence found from Reddit. But I have a personal ghost story to share first. Yeah, I'm still pro. This happened last night.

[A]

You texted me at 8pm and that

[B]

was like right when it happened. Okay, so as context I'm gonna. This is close my computer business.

[A]

Oh, wow. Serious.

[B]

This is turn to face you business. Okay. I have not done the Gateway tapes in maybe eight months.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But yesterday was such.

[A]

Last night is when you decided to do it.

[B]

So yesterday was such a busy day and I feel like I'm trying to be better about deconstruction.

[A]

Wasn't there an eclipse?

[B]

Yeah, but that doesn't matter.

[A]

And on lunar or not Lunar.

[B]

Lunar New Year.

[A]

Yeah, lunar.

[B]

Lunar New Year. But okay, nothing bad happened.

[A]

Okay. Interesting timing of your.

[B]

So I am really bad at decompressing. Like I'm just not good at it. I will continue working. I will continue looking at a screen until midnight. But I'm trying to be more conscious about having a balance and setting boundaries. And last night I wrapped up work at 7:30 and then I was like, okay, I'm gonna take a bath. And I'm just listening to green noise and some meditative music. Not even music, just sound. I was in the bath and I was like, you know what, maybe I should meditate. And I was like, you know what I haven't done in a really long time is Gateway tapes. So I decided to put my head. And the scariest thing about the Gateway tapes is that you have to use headphones because it's binaural beats. And so you really do feel kind of isolated. And your eyes are Closed. And it feels like your environment.

[A]

Did you put on one of the noise canceling ones that really.

[B]

I use my noise canceling AirPods, but okay, so I lay down and I'm doing Gateway tape one, like volume three. It's like the third track. And it's one of those situations that's so wild because the point of it is to put your body to sleep, but your mind is still awake. At least for this. The tapes that I'm working on, I haven't gotten to more advanced.

[A]

Scared to do it in a tub.

[B]

No, no, no. I got out of the tub. I said in the bath is when I decided I wanted to own. I did not do. Thank you for clarifying. Out of the tub.

[A]

Go into your little tank.

[B]

I'm on my bed. Leia's next to me. Yeah. So your body is asleep. And even my aura ring will say, did you nap for, like, afterwards? I checked it immediately and said, did you nap for 20 minutes?

[A]

Which last time you did it too. It, like, always tracks that your body is. Your body is really good at meditating. I feel like a lot of times

[B]

people live by normal weights without that. I'm not good at meditating. So I do it. And it is really weird because you kind of feel. I try to keep my hand, like, on my chest or my stomach because I want to have some type of grounding which might get in the way of things. But it literally felt like my lower half of my body was like, severed off of me. But not in a painful way, but in like a that my body doesn't exist way.

[A]

Oh, weird.

[B]

But my mind is.

[A]

So do you think that maybe all of your consciousness just feels like it's in the top half of you and that's why you felt like you were missing part of your body? Because just your soul is right here.

[B]

Yes, but even still, my whole body was asleep. Like, my hands were heavy, everything. I was just only conscious of it. I think of my upper body because my hands were on top of it. But okay, in the. They call it level 10, where you're kind of in this other. I don't even know what to call it. In the gateway, maybe as you get like. They talk you through the meditation and you get into it and you're kind of like in this protective bubble. But it's when your body is like, fully asleep, your mind is still awake. And I start getting these visions. And this is something I had the last time where I had that image of a man and my future child pulling me towards them. But the second you try to really focus on an image, it goes away. I kept seeing Whitney way Thor. And that's so crazy.

[A]

No.

[B]

And this is crazy.

[A]

Was Whitney doing this? No.

[B]

This gets even crazier. I kept seeing Whitney, but specifically she was dealing with a situation where she felt like someone was watching her. And it was so specific. And in the last couple of weeks, I've been like, oh, I want I should check in on Whitney. I haven't talked to her in a little while. Like, I should text her, but I haven't. But I'm having this experience.

[A]

I'm having a lot of this about me too. But I wonder if somehow you were projecting some of this onto me. Cause last night I literally was getting into bed at like, 8, and I thought to myself, I haven't talked to Whitney in a long time. I owe her a phone call.

[B]

That's also wild. That's so weird.

[A]

Which it must be from you, like, projecting what's happening.

[B]

And then her and I talked, because this is.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. So I keep thinking about Whitney Maythor, and she is specifically dealing with. And I see her looking, like, out a window. And again, this is like. It's so hard to explain what it looks like because it's more of just, like, imagery rather than a full, like, dream playing out or whatever it is. She's looking out a window, like, to see if someone's outside watching her. And she's saying, like, I feel like someone's tracking me. It was weird.

[A]

It's scary, too, because she has dealt with.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Stalkers.

[B]

So in my mind, I'm like, maybe it's just, like, a random thing. And, like, yes, she's told us stories of dealing with stalkers before. I have more images and other things, like, some that make no sense to me. And I keep, like, keep trying to, like, make sense of them, but they don't. Anyway, I. I finished this, and I was like, I have to reach out to Whitney. I text her and I say, I don't mention the dream or, like, the gateway things at all. I go, friend, how are you? I've been thinking of you a lot lately and wanted to check in. And she goes, I dreamt about you last night. Probably because I was listening to you when I fell asleep. And then I go, wait. So weird. I just did a meditation, and you came up so clear. But it was weird because I was seeing you being scared of something. Like you felt like someone was watching you. I didn't mention that part up front. But, hey, you dreamt of Me. So now I can tell you I'm having weird meditation messages about you. She sends me a voice note. I won't share it, but basically the day before, before she was dreaming me, she had gone to the dog park with Goosey and she was sitting there doing whatever, writing, journaling. And then when she got home, goes about her day, yada yada. It's like late at night, she's falling asleep, and all of a sudden her phone starts, like, doing this weird sound. And she looks at her phone and there's a notification that says, like, an item has been with you.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Someone had slipped an air tag into her bag while she was at the dog park. Because it literally. It literally showed the time that it started. Because, like, you can open the map, right? And it shows that it had been following her since the time she was at the dog park and, like, was with her since. So someone put. She found it in her bag.

[A]

That is terrifying.

[B]

She did the things that I saw in my meditation. She looked out the window to see if, like, there was someone outside watching her. She called someone and had, like, said the words that I heard her saying in my meditation.

[A]

I have chills.

[B]

Isn't this insane? I FaceTimed her immediately.

[A]

And my knees have goosebumps.

[B]

I know. So it's not really a ghost story, but like, I had a psychic moment during the gateway tape.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

Isn't that wild?

[A]

One, I'm concerned for Whitney's safety. I definitely need to reach out to now to see how she's doing. But two, like, I feel like you are. I know you're like, no, I'm not good at the meditation. It's just the binaural beats. No. Like, that's so intense. You literally, like, saw into the past and witnessed like, you time traveled.

[B]

I had a psychic moment.

[A]

That is crazy. Are you gonna do it again?

[B]

Oh, for sure. And I'm gonna be more. I'm gonna be better about it because I really do believe. And I've had moments. You and I both have had moments where we're a little bit more in tune and more woo woo. And experience things in, like, the paranormal and psychic realm. But I also feel like even when I get vision. Yeah. Like I saw an image of her.

[A]

Uh huh. Like I've never had that. It's just like a feeling where, like, I know what's gonna happen. Right. Or that someone's going. Or like you feel the emotion you feel. You're just like, given the knowledge of the person. Yeah.

[B]

It's Interesting. Cause I don't really feel like I'm seeing it in my mind's eye. It's not like a clear image. It's like the idea of the image, if that makes sense. It kind of goes into the conversation of how we think. See things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or think things.

[A]

But it wasn't like you were doing this and somehow, like, astral projecting to witnessing Whitney go through, like, it happened a different day the day before.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what is blowing my mind even more, because it's like you went and it wasn't like you were accessing Whitney's memories. Like, it was like you were watching her experience. Experience. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know, but that's super weird.

[A]

Just also, like, take that long of a break between the tapes and then just pick up and do that.

[B]

Yeah. Because they're. Each of the meditations are, like, 35 minutes.

[A]

I kind of want to do them

[B]

now, I really think.

[A]

Is this gonna be my therapy?

[B]

No. Cause it's not really therapeutic.

[A]

I know, but didn't we talk about how maybe I need something that's, like, therapy esque? Yes, but you need.

[B]

But this is not a healing your body situation. It's about getting into the universal consciousness.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe that's what I need. Anything to avoid truly fixing myself.

[B]

I made Corinne cry yesterday talking about

[A]

how she said, you need therapy.

[B]

Well, I said it a lot nicer than that. Like, hey, I'm gonna say this again.

[A]

I was like, I don't. Here are the 17 steps that I plan to do instead of therapy. And you were like, I don't think so. I'm gonna start crying again instead.

[B]

I'm coming over on Saturday and we're

[A]

gonna plan design my seminar or just hang out. Yeah, whatever you feel in the moment.

[B]

But, yeah, that's my.

[A]

That's wild.

[B]

A little psychic moment.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's really, really cool. Yeah. Damn.

[B]

It's also weird because I feel like what I was saying, it's like you and I both have had, like, little hits of, you know, psychic moments or whatever you want to call them. Witchy moments. And I feel like I often second guess myself so much because I'm like, oh, it's just my brain. Or it's the same thing. When we did the automatic writing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where it was like, I feel like I'm just, like, writing random things that come to my mind, but then sometimes they ended up being, like, real things to other people in the room.

[A]

Okay. We actually. Now that you're saying that this is a perfect. Also, Whitney was there last time when we did the automatic writing, But I feel like this is a perfect example of what happens. Whitney's present. You are picking up on something someone else is experiencing, Like a third party in the group. And I'm picking up on you because in the automatic writing, I. Yeah, you

[B]

picked up on me.

[A]

I was like, I don't know what I'm seeing. And it was just like a whole description of you and what you're going.

[B]

Yeah. I was like, okay, all right.

[A]

Wow. Oh, my God, that's so cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, maybe if this is, why am I opening my computer? You're talking today. But if, like, anyone was waiting for a moment to start the gateway tapes, I feel like this is a huge motivating story to that. Like, maybe y' all get to tap in too.

[B]

Yeah. It does also make me think that all the other things that I'm seeing that don't totally make sense will eventually make sense.

[A]

Dana Newkirk told us. Yeah, sometimes things are out of order. They come at random times. And then like, seven years down the road, you're like, holy.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Shirt balls.

[B]

Yeah. So stay tuned for my future.

[A]

It's the future I can see.

[B]

Um, okay. I'm very excited for this episode. We love paranormal evidence and we love Reddit stories shared on Reddit. I went deep diving on the paranormal and ghosts, Reddit, threads, forums, whatever you want to call them. And it got to the point where I think I maybe listened to and watched like a thousand plus videos and

[A]

I. Oh, my God.

[B]

Reddit was almost like, girl, take a break. Because I would click on something and then the top would be like, this was unable to load. And then I would refresh it and then it would finally load. But it was like.

[A]

Or are you desensitized to paranormal evidence now, having viewed like a thousand people?

[B]

No. And there's one. The first one I'm going to share with you is like the most mind blowing piece of evidence I think I have ever, ever, ever.

[A]

That's wild, because you just made that declaration about Wyatt's video from Winchester Mystery House.

[B]

Probably make it again about a million other things. But no, this is because I specifically am focused on what's his name?

[A]

Wyatt or Warren.

[B]

I think it was Wyatt.

[A]

Wyatt. Okay, sorry, I don't remember since I

[B]

can guess yourself w have therapy. But this episode is mostly like EVPs.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So specifically, when it comes to EVP evidence. This is insane. We like evidence. Photos, videos, scratches, possessions, EVPs.

[A]

We love it.

[B]

We love it. All we want it. It's haunting. Give it to us. We've caught a lot on our own podcast too. You all have actually helped us catch them. And you'll be like, hey, does anyone else hear this sound? And then it's a male voice that we've heard multiple times on the podcast.

[A]

Yeah. That was one of the it's wilder things. And for context, what Sabrina's talking about is a few years ago, maybe like four or five years ago, we did like a one off show in Portland, Maine. And for that we did like Boston and Portland.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for that we like put together like a couple EVPs that were captured on our podcast and we realized that we captured the exact same male voice. It sounds like maybe in their 20s or 30s in the background of our recordings, like three years apart that are not the people that we were living with at the time. And we had both moved apartments many times, so it couldn't have been like a neighbor passing by or just someone else who works remotely on the other side of the wall or whatever. It made zero sense. There was no way.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We don't recognize the voice.

[B]

We don't. And it does. I mean, maybe it's fence. And also we had our aura photo taken for our holiday cards in 2025 on Patreon. And in our aura photo we did individual photos. This entity, this like what they call spirit in aura photos, does not show up in either of our individual photos together. There is a spirit that shows up in our aura photo.

[A]

And then we went again because we're going to house witch in Salem every single month this year to get our individual photos done. And then our photo together in our January photo, she was like, oh, there's a spirit again still in only the photo of you guys together.

[B]

We'll see. February is coming up soon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So I basically wanted to take to Reddit, which is simultaneously the best and scariest place on the Internet.

[A]

Yeah, it is. There's a lot of uncensored things there. Yeah.

[B]

And I wanted to see what people on Reddit deem to be the most convincing piece of evidence because I do feel like the ghost and paranormal forums have their fair share of skeptics and there were a bunch of.

[A]

It's also hard in the world of AI now, but.

[B]

So a lot of the posts that I did find were from like five to seven years ago.

[A]

Yeah. Which is better because most people didn't have the skill or access to things that could manipulate like that. Yes.

[B]

I will say there were quite a few that I listened to that was very clearly like the person just pretending it was like a ghost. Like they were clearly like sitting in their bedroom being like, oh, yeah, I got an evp. And it's like them. Yeah. Because you can tell the difference when it's something like right up to the microphone or something that's kind of in the distance and you can't hear it in the moment. I am going to briefly share what EVP stands for. It stands for Electric Voice Phenomenon. And it's basically a voice or sound that oftentimes isn't heard by the naked ear, but is heard after the fact when you replay a recording or a video or something. But sometimes people do hear it in the moment. Like if you're using a spirit box or you hear something and then it also gets picked up on on the recording.

[A]

I mean, like another great example of this, if anyone went to. When we did our 34 run tour about the conjuring house, when Greg and Dana Newkirk came with us, when we were in the upstairs room, Greg had brought out one of those old school tape recorders that you think of in the doctor's one. Right. 1980s investigation on the table or whatever.

[B]

It literally only records when it hears when someone's talking.

[A]

Yeah. And there were plenty of EVPs caught on that that we did not hear live. And it wasn't like we were asking things, waiting for an answer, nothing would be heard. Asking another thing, waiting for an answer, nothing would be heard. But then, like, it's not like we waited days and then reviewed.

[B]

It was in the audio.

[A]

It was in the moment. Like, Greg would go back, replay what we had asked, and then listen so that we could, like, keep the conversation going.

[B]

Yeah, Wild.

[A]

You really don't hear these things live.

[B]

Some of them. You don't. Some skeptics or skeptics, the not fun folk, like to say it's radio interference or just our brains finding patterns like paranoia. But we said ghosts. And so too do a lot of people on Reddit Paranormal and Reddit ghosts. Okay. There is one service that I use religiously because ever since I first signed up for it, it has helped save me money and even caught the fact that I was paying for the same subscription twice. So I am so grateful for, and I swear by, Rocket Money. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions. It monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings.

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[A]

Home Chef is so delicious. I just picked my meals for the week. Brian like skips over when it's time to pick it out. And we picked a burger and then there's also like a nut crust cashew crusted salmon. Oh I can't wait for that one.

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[B]

I'm going to start with like I said, one of the most wild and intense EVPs I've ever, ever heard. And it's a long one. Like this isn't just a quick like one thing. It is a, I think the clip is like almost like a full minute and a half.

[A]

Oh wow. I do want to give someone talking like of the evp.

[B]

It's a Lot of things. Okay, so what we're going to do is like, as we go through these evidence, I'm going to give a little bit of context. I'm not going to say what the people here. I'm going to play, play it. We'll discuss. I'll then share what the people heard and we'll play it again.

[A]

A true test.

[B]

Yes, I do want to give a little bit of a content warning because this EVP is believed to portray potentially a murder or a death. Yes, I found it first. Okay, so it is. It was actually posted at quite a few places all over Reddit, but I first found it on the Reddit Ghost forum in a thread posted 5 years ago by someone named Oxum's Razor. The original poster was asking for the most compelling piece of evidence out there. And then this user responded with the EVP we're about to play for you. I'll play it at normal speed, then I'll play it slowed down, then we'll discuss what we heard. But this EVP was first shared on Art Bell's coast to coast on April 2, 2005. It was recorded by a group of paranormal investigators called the Ghost Investigator Society GIS during an investigation of the Odgin Exchange Building. I'm probably saying that town wrong. In Ogun, Utah, this building first opened in 1931. It was used for business and commerce, and over time the elaborate and ornate building fell into decay and disrepair. But it has been deemed a historical landmark. But it's currently sitting boarded up, waiting for repair. I couldn't find the exact date that this EVP was taken, but clearly before April 2, 2005, the GIS group visited this building for an investigation. Two of the members, Brendan Cook and Barbara McEath, are the people who went on coast to coast with Art Bell and shared this. And Cook recalled that the group had been recording on the upper levels for quite some time. His battery on his laptop was getting low, so he decided to go downstairs to one of these office spaces that had an outlet that he could charge his laptop in. He plugged it in and set it on a shelf and left it to record. And keep in mind, this building when they're there, is abandoned. So like maybe there's like desks and like, like some office type things left behind. Yeah, water is not working. There's not really a ton of office supplies. There's no, no one else around.

[A]

There's just not enough. It's a banned account for what is captured.

[B]

Yes. Leaves his laptop recording on a shelf and he goes. Walks out of the room to rejoin the group. So the entire group is elsewhere in the building. No one is in this office room. The recording is silent for seven minutes. Oh, well, okay. So it wasn't until after the investigation that Brendan Cook listened back to this recording. It's silent for seven minutes. We won't listen to the seven minutes of silence. Don't worry. But after those seven minutes, he discovered the most haunting evp. Again, no one was in or near this room at the time. There were no children present in the investigation or the building. And there was absolutely no water in this room, let alone in the building. There was no running water in the building, period. So now I will play the EVP at normal speed. Then we'll discuss. And I'll play it again.

[A]

I want to go home. Except I am home. Isn't that what the is that? Okay, wait, you know what? I know you gave all the context and everything about, like, the building and murder and things like that, but the entire time my brain was just envisioning, like, that this is somewhere, whether you want to say it's heaven or hell, but, like, somewhere that, like, these other beings and entities are like. I was almost picturing this, like, big, ornate, like, chapel with, like, an indoor pool, like a bathhouse. Oh, you want a bath? I was picturing a bathhouse with, like, basically, like, angels, like, talking and, like, arguing together.

[B]

I wish that were the case because

[A]

angels are also really scary sometimes.

[B]

They are. What do you like from that? Do you want me to play the slowed down version and then we'll discuss.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Because I couldn't. Can you actually make out what people are saying?

[B]

I can. So the slowed down version, I pulled out, like, the specific moments that there is talking. Talking.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The water is the craziest thing to me.

[A]

The water is so clear.

[B]

Do you hear anything?

[A]

I thought the. Why you can't make out what the male voice is like, if you can call it male.

[B]

Demonic. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But the female voice sounded like it was saying, I can't breathe. Can't breathe, can't breathe.

[B]

That's exactly what people hear. And again, like, people don't know any of the context of, like, who these spirits are, but they believe they are hearing a child being drowned.

[A]

Oh, my God. My heart is, like, racing listening to that. It feels wrong.

[B]

So.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

In the art bell conversation on coast to coast, they all discuss and what they believe they heard was a child crying out, I can't breathe. Multiple times. Then there's this menacing, darker, deeper Voice saying, people don't know. Like, a couple people on Reddit were theorizing. Some were saying, I hear murder. Either way, it's like a really dark, almost like demonic sounding voice. It's not pleasant. And then there's splashing of water, which is what leads them to believe. Like, they can't breathe. Like, is someone drowning a child? And they're saying, I can't breathe. The splashing of the water is truly. Because there's no water in this building. And also never at any point so clear.

[A]

It's like someone sitting next to a pool.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it sounds like an indoor pool. Like, it sounds like you can hear the echoes. It's like when you go to, like, swim laps at, like, the gym's pool.

[B]

Yeah. It does very much sound like a pool.

[A]

Hear.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The sound reverberating off of the walls and the ceiling.

[B]

There was no water in this building at the time. So this is not like kids messing around splashing on the water. And even if it were, like, that doesn't sound like this exists in our realm. This is something that is, like, either residual or just like, I hope it's residual, to be honest. Like, I hope it's just like, weird leftover, like, energy. But there was never at any point a pool like that. There was a well in the basement, but this is an office.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, Commerce Building. So maybe there was like a bath or something. I don't know. In some. In one of the offices.

[A]

Because it is like, the splashing is kind of slow. Like, it doesn't sound like someone's, like, thrashing for their life in it. But also the voice saying, can't breathe already sounds really defeated, like, really weak.

[B]

Right. It almost sounds like you're hearing the thoughts of the child as they're being drowned. Because if you're not to get into, like, the really gruesome details, but like. Yeah, like, as they're fading away in that residual moment.

[A]

I want to put that audio into the different, like, editing softwares we have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And see if we can make out what the darker voice is saying.

[B]

Okay, well, let's listen to. I'll play the slow down version again so that everyone can really listen. Now that we've talked about it, it sounds like the child is saying, I can't breathe multiple times. Then you hear the demonic voice, and then you hear the water splashing.

[A]

Oh, you know what? It just made me think? What? Kind of like, what you were saying with, like, it could be the child's thoughts. What if the demonic voice isn't a, like, truly demonic voice at all. Like, what if this is the child's, like, memory? Like, you're seeing their vision as they're losing oxygen and they're saying, can't breathe. And it sounds like it's echoing. And then all the voices get distorted and low and stuff.

[B]

And it's just like you hear the

[A]

water splashing around you as you're losing consciousness. Just because I have fainted many times. And like, voices do distort.

[B]

Distorted. Yeah.

[A]

As you start going down.

[B]

I mean, I prefer that over a demon. I mean, the whole situation.

[A]

Terrible. Was either witnessing someone drown or drowning them. You can say that they are pretty demonic anyway.

[B]

But isn't that. Isn't that like.

[A]

That's wild. I would never go back there. Like, that is so scary.

[B]

It's a full minute long evp. Hold on to your clavicle. Clutch your clavicle.

[A]

Clutch your clavicle.

[B]

So that was.

[A]

That is really terrifying. Yeah, I'm with you on that's. The water piece is just like.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That adds so much to it.

[B]

So much. And I don't think I've ever heard like, an EVP like that.

[A]

No.

[B]

It's usually just a voice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it really does make me feel like it almost puts into perspective a residual haunting in a different way, where it's like, even if everything has changed about a space, the residual energy lives there. Like, that means, like, the space that it was back at the time of the incident still exists. Okay, I promise my next one's a little bit more uplifting. Well, it's not like, necessarily uplifting, but it does. It made me chuckle.

[A]

What a hard pivot for potentially hearing a child drown.

[B]

Yeah, sorry. This EVP was posted one year ago on, again, Reddit Ghosts by someone named Quail Main 9,957. And it was titled Caught an EVP. Do you hear what I hear? Do you hear what I hear? As context? It was recorded at the Martha Washington Inn in the ballroom. I hear something very clear, but I couldn't really. So I'll play it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And on Reddit, this is like a video of them sitting in the ballroom, replaying the audio on the recorder. But this is. I'm just playing the audio for everyone.

[A]

I cannot make out what is being said. Okay.

[B]

In the next. Here, I'll play it again. So I tried to remove, like, background noise to try to make it a little bit clearer. Let's see.

[A]

Get down from there. I hear. Get down from there.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Something. Something like the other way or something like that.

[B]

Okay, I heard go away for the second one, but it's like, go away. Something like, there's pieces of it that I can't hear.

[A]

Okay. So I. I vote get down from there. Go the other way.

[B]

I heard clear as day, Jake's an asshole.

[A]

Wow. What a different interpretation.

[B]

And the hard thing is that. So I don't, like, post or comment on Reddit. I kind of just lurk. So I don't know if this is a normal thing, but people who were trying to post what they heard, it kept getting deleted. So I do think people were hearing a curse word.

[A]

Oh, but wait, now play it again so I can try to hear yours. I'm having the, like, Yanni Laurel thing where, like, the first time I heard what you heard, and then the second time it, like, went back to what

[B]

I was hearing because I don't hear get down from there. But I think also because I, like, have listened to something.

[A]

Yeah, you have in your mind what you heard. But.

[B]

Yeah. So let us know what you think. I don't know what the original poster's name is, but I. But of course, like, in my mind, I created a whole story of, like, what if his name is Jake and he pissed off the ghost? Jake's an asshole. Go away.

[A]

Mary Washington is back from the dead. Pissed ghost Jake the fuck out of my hotel.

[B]

Whoever Jake is, seems like the spirit does not like him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then it does sound like, go away. Something like, here, let's play that again.

[A]

It's hard. The second words like, I'm not committed to go the other way, but I'm committed to go, go, something, something.

[B]

Well, you did hear away, and I heard away. We both heard go one more time. What?

[A]

Will you play it one more time? Oh, yeah. I really want to know.

[B]

That's the hard thing about this. It's like, we can't have confirmation.

[A]

Or, like, go get gray.

[B]

Oh, interesting. Okay, go get Chris.

[A]

It kind of does feel like, go get. And then, I don't know, what do other people do?

[B]

Jake's an asshole. Go get Chris.

[A]

Go get Chris.

[B]

I mean, I also didn't do a ton of research into the history of the Martha Washington Inn and, like, the hauntings and stuff. So, like, maybe that means I had to do another episode and see if there are people named Jake and Chris in that story. Maybe one of, you know. Anyway, let us know what you hear. The whole point of this is we want to hear what you hear, too.

[A]

Right. And that's the hard part about EVPs. Is like, you don't get to interview the person who said something and you're like, wait, come again? What did you say? What was this? Didn't catch it.

[B]

Exactly. And then sometimes when you listen to them over and over, you start to like, hear random things.

[A]

There's something else. Yeah. Yeah. I have an EVP that I'll play at the very end from a listener where what she heard. Like, now when I listen to it, I feel like I hear what she hears. But the first time I listened to it without reading what she interpreted, I heard something else. So I'll share that at the end.

[B]

Yeah, that was the thing is I was trying to not read what people heard before I listened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's hard. And then also, I don't know if other people have this, but like, looking at my computer screen while listening is actually more distracting. Like, I feel like I need to, like, close my eyes to listen.

[A]

And that's why I was going like this. I know it's a video podcast and that probably wasn't the best. Look, stare at the ceiling.

[B]

How do you listen to EVPs? Okay, so this next one was posted nine years ago by the user Jackshid in Reddit Paranormal forum in response to a poster who asked anyone who has captured their own EVP recordings, can you share them? Jack posted this EVP with no context beyond saying this was recorded outdoors in a park. I am a 49 year old male with a very deep voice. There wasn't anyone around for miles from where I was. I was completely alone. After various responses, Jack did then post an update, but I'll share that after we play it. Okay, so this is the normal speed. Coming back.

[A]

Coming back. Right?

[B]

Sounds like something coming back.

[A]

Yeah, he's coming back.

[B]

Okay, now slow down. And isolated. I like how I'm using like isolated as like a techie term, but I don't know what the fuck I did. I just said, like, clean up this audio.

[A]

I heard fuck. And then a cough. He's coming back.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

Like, fuck, he's coming back.

[B]

I definitely hear someone, like something coming back. Okay, so Jack updated the post twice. So he first added that he wasn't claiming it was a ghost for sure, but it was unexplained and he was very much alone when he got this recording. His second update was this. He shared that the location where this was recorded was a dairy ranch in the late 1800s to the early 1900s. History says the rancher was having an affair and the rancher's wife killed him and his mistress and then took her own life. The recording that he captured was taken in the place where this farmhouse once stood.

[A]

Oh, dang.

[B]

A lot of people on Reddit seem to think it sounded like a younger male saying, I don't think he's coming back. Others heard, she's coming back. And then the original poster Jack heard, hello, Hang on, someone's coming back. So again, I'll play it.

[A]

Back. Yeah, that's interesting because, like, when I was thinking that I was hearing the cough, it was to me, like a second person coughing.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Like one person says, fuck. Like, person A says fuck. In my mind, person B coughs, and then person A said, he's coming back or she's coming back or something.

[B]

Interesting. Okay, let's play which if it was

[A]

the affair or something, and then the mistress saying something. He's coughing, and then, yeah, she's coming back.

[B]

Coming back. Yeah, interesting.

[A]

Like, it's like almost like a clearing of the throat.

[B]

I think we're like, Adam, what's his name? Adam.

[A]

You're pulling a lot of names.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I definitely hear coming back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which, yeah, like you're saying it could be like, the moment of like, oh, shit, she's coming back. What do you hear? It's so hard, but it's also very, very fun.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I could do this all day.

[B]

I know. Okay, well, the next one. So I tried to keep this, like, mostly EVP so that everyone who's listening too, can. Can play along and hear and not be like, oh, my God. Every single one of these is a video that I have to see.

[A]

I wasn't as nice for the listener

[B]

stories at the end. I tried to be nice, but this. There was one that I was like, okay, this is a video I need to play. So this is for those of you who love Gettysburg and ghosts caught on camera. This was pretty much mentioned on every single Reddit thread where I was, where people were asking, like, what's the most convincing piece of evidence? It was also all over YouTube and the Internet. So people have probably seen this, but as context. Back in 2001, a family was in Gettysburg on a Civil War battlefield tour. I'm not really sure of much more context, but in this video, it sounds like there are two people in the family sitting out in a field in Gettysburg at night when they caught something very strange at the edge of the woods. I'll play it and then we can discuss. And I do recommend coming over to YouTube to watch this, but if you don't, we will put it on social media. So you can see it there. But if you're listening, you can also hear the commentary of the two people. Don't move in there now they can move.

[A]

Sparkle.

[B]

I don't see nothing down there. Can't be the motorcycles, honey. There's another sparkle. You see what I'm saying?

[A]

What's that?

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Tree.

[B]

No, you moved it right, right there. See? Uh huh. Look, there's nobody there. I can't see. Look. Isn't the people. Can't be. There's nobody. Not up in the trees. There's nobody down there no more.

[A]

See the fact that there's a kid too in there, like making commentary. Yeah. I have seen this before. And it shows people like, it appears that they're like marching back and forth, but when they go forth, it looks like they're up on like a ledge, like a different level.

[B]

Yeah. But it almost looks like they're ducking under. So there's a rock in the video on the left side of the frame. And it almost looks like the idea is that perhaps it's like the Gettysburg soldiers and spirits repeating a march or movement of some type of thing that they did. And it reminds me a lot of the Hawaiian night marchers. But there's a rock at the bottom left of the frame. And it almost looks like there are multiple beings ducking under something, turning around, going right. And that's where they like stand it back up, which is why they're taller.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And they're like going through like a march. And it almost makes me think like, was there a tree there and they had to like duck under a branch and go around it to do their right to go on their path.

[A]

Either way, it's still like distorted because you can hear the guy in the video saying like, up in the trees. Cause like right now the way that the terrain is, is it's just trees. So like when you see them coming back, like they're suddenly like higher up, 8ft in the air, appearing to walk back.

[B]

Yeah. It's wild. And I can't tell if it's like

[A]

you could do 400 episodes on Gettysburg.

[B]

We should do at least one. Because I feel.

[A]

Have we never done one?

[B]

We covered it briefly with National Park Shepherd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But we haven't really dug into it because I think it's overwhelming. There's so many places.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's not just the battlefield. Like Gettysburg has a whole entire town. You can like every historic building has its own story and haunting. There's so.

[A]

Yeah. My friend Greg. Oh, that reminds me, I was gonna say my friend Greg has also experienced a bunch that I think like we've read his email.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which just reminded me I owe him a text back too.

[B]

How many unread are you at right now?

[A]

I'll tell you, but it's not truly. How many have not been responded to? Because I did the.

[B]

The mark is on the.

[A]

I marked everything as red when I got overwhelmed. It says I have 70, but the true answer is probably like 200.

[B]

Yeah. But since you last marked all as red.

[A]

Since I last marked. Yep.

[B]

Let's see, how many do I have?

[A]

I'll never feel bad about myself.

[B]

I have 96 unread.

[A]

That's a lot for you.

[B]

And I don't have a child, so

[A]

our friend Chase has like thousands though, so I don't feel that bad because Chase has more. He also has thousands of friends, so

[B]

that makes sense and works in like the entertainment business and is like on the go all the time.

[A]

Yeah. We've had a lot to go through in life and sometimes stress and different things and changing hormones and bodies.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[B]

Hey.

[A]

Psst.

[B]

You didn't hear this from me, but Normal Gossip is back for its ninth season. Join me, Rachel Hampton, as I share the juiciest gossip from the real world with some very special guests. This season, we're bringing back some old friends, a Radiotopia buddy, and for the first time ever, a Nobel laureate. That's right. We have Malala on season nine. Normal Gossip is out on all your favorite podcast platforms. Okay, the last piece of evidence I have, well, I guess it has, like, multiple pieces of evidence in. This is from one of the most haunted places. Like, if you Google the most haunted places in the United States, this is on every single list. It is a place that you and I have talked about on the podcast Early Days.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

It is the Sally House.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So one of, like, my tactics when I was searching for evidence was I wanted to find, like, generic evidence. Like, I kind of like everything I've shared before this. But then after the Gettysburg video, I was like, oh, like, let me look up specific haunted places, because, you know, Waverly Hills people get countless pieces of evidence. The Queen Mary people get countless pieces of evidence. And then I searched the Sally house, and I found this. And I was like, yes, please. So the Sally House is in Atchison, Kansas. Sorry if I said that wrong. And I initially covered it on episode seven.

[A]

I was gonna say, I remember you covering it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Early days, I get the Sallie House and the Whaley House confused sometimes. Like, I don't actually remember what happened separately in either of them because I think I combined.

[B]

I had a family living there. The Sallie House is pretty tragic.

[A]

Axes, right?

[B]

No martyrs, deaths. I'll give you context.

[A]

Okay. I can't remember.

[B]

That's why I was like, I'm just gonna give brief context and not go too in depth. But if you want to listen to that whole episode, it's episode seven. It is an infamously haunted house. It became well known in the early 1990s when a young couple, Tony and Deborah Pickman, moved in. And almost immediately, they started to experience hauntings. They were, like, very benign at first. Just like, doors opening and closing, Lights turn it on and off. Small things, objects moving on their own. But then they very quickly escalated, and they became terrorized by an entity that they started nicknaming Sally. It escalated to physical attacks specifically targeted at Tony, the husband. And through investigation and research, people have come to believe that the spirit is of a young girl named Sally who died during a surgery performed by the original owner of the home, Dr. Charles Finney, that she had a bad case of appendicitis. He tried to perform surgery on her. Like the family brought this girl over like late in the night. He tried to perform surgery on her on the dining room table. Unfortunately, she passed away. There are no records of this girl Sally. But based on paranormal investigations and conversations with this spirit, people believe it's a little girl named Sally. People bring toys to the house. But here's the twist. Why would a little girl be attacking a man? Why would this little girl be scratching and having demonic growling voices? And people believe that Sally is not a little girl at all, but a demon. There's also my belief, and I don't know if we talked about this in episode seven, but I feel like the little girl spirit probably does exist because there are moments of childhood playfulness, but then there's something evil that has come into that space. Cause there were a lot of like medical perform like things happening there, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unknown history. But like, was this such a traumatic death that it opened up the space for a demonic entity and then also the amount of people and energy that has been like thrown onto this house in the years.

[A]

Right, yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

[B]

Maybe something festered.

[A]

A lot of things could start out as something and then evolve to something else, just given how much extra energy people are bringing in and putting towards home.

[B]

Exactly. So this brings us to our evidence that's just like tiny background. Basically over the years, so many people now have gone to investigate, do paranormal investigations. There have been a lot of EVPs, a lot of photos of people being like physically attacked and getting like marks on their body. And this brings us to 2012 live sci fi investigated the Sally house. And this is a team of investigators led by Tim Wood that conduct live interactive paranormal investigations with spirit communication, Ouija boards, rituals, all to verify and document. Not paranormal activity, demonic activity.

[A]

Shit.

[B]

And I think Tim Wood and Live Sci Fi have like tons of reality TV shows and like paranormal shows.

[A]

Whenever we're about to like see or hear something that is thought to be demonic, it always crosses my mind. Like, should we not be listening to this? Is this summoning it?

[B]

And I give you no choice. I think we set intentions. I probably should have said this in the beginning of the episode. Maybe don't listen while driving. I don't think this episode will be haunted.

[A]

I feel like it won't be.

[B]

I'm being so fun about it. Like I'm.

[A]

We're just fun gals.

[B]

Two ghouls sitting and talking ghost stories. And girl talk, call back to when we said we weren't going to say the name of that YouTube video channel.

[A]

The traitors. The Traitors.

[B]

Okay, so this group, no surprise, went to investigate the Sallie house in April of 2012. This video was posted on YouTube on January 4, 2013. And I'm only pulling like two pieces of evidence from that clip. There's a link to the original video in the show notes if you want to watch the whole thing. There are some really scary EVPs that were recorded while in the Sallie house, specifically in the basement. But they did catch a lot of different other EVPs. Some of them were using the Frank's Box. And I feel like playing Frank's box or spirit box tapes on audio is really like disorienting. So I chose the non Frank's Box ones. Oh, I did put a disclaimer here. The following clips are believed to contain the voice of a demonic presence. Listen with caution or don't listen if you're too scared. Chicken shit.

[A]

Fighting words.

[B]

The first one was recorded in the basement of the Sally house. It is immediately after the investigator asked, do you believe in God? And I'll play the response that they got.

[A]

I hear he's up, up there.

[B]

Oh, okay. I hear no help there.

[A]

Oh, okay. Will you play it again?

[B]

Yeah. Or not up there.

[A]

He's not up there. He's not up there. He's down here.

[B]

But it's interesting because it's like in response to do you believe in God? The no help there makes sense in the context of like, haha, good luck. Like you think he's going to help you.

[A]

Right?

[B]

But also not up there. Also makes sense.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

It is mocking the idea. Either way. It feels like it's mocking, right? The idea.

[A]

Yeah. It feels like, okay, well if he does exist, he's so far away from you and I. Right here, right now.

[B]

You and I, buddy. Alone in the basement, clutching my sweatshirt. Clutch your clavicle again.

[A]

Clutch your clavicle. I had to. I had to fix his bones. They were coming apart.

[B]

I know. Poor Sam gets them back together.

[A]

We've said it before, but one time he had a full body. He was sitting here, doors were closed, came in a couple months later.

[B]

He had been dismembered.

[A]

Yes, he had.

[B]

Maybe he's like, hey you guys, I'm supposed to be a ghost, not a skeleton. You're misrepresenting my body.

[A]

He's like, I don't want to live here. Let me give my other half to Sabrina. She can bring home with her.

[B]

Okay, so now the second EVP also took place in the basement. In the evp, you'll hear the investigator ask, is this how you show up by inflicting pain? And then this is what? Is this how you show love? By inflicting pain? Okay, now I'm hearing something very different than I heard last time.

[A]

I kind of don't think it's an evp. I think it's just a noise. But if I was the whisper forced to declare this a voice, I would say it's saying, you think.

[B]

Okay, I heard sick, but now I'm hearing sexy.

[A]

I still hear you think you think.

[B]

I also heard Nick, but I think I was, like, hearing, like, you keep

[A]

pulling names every single evening, but we

[B]

both are hearing ick. Like an ick. Yeah, you said think sick, Nick.

[A]

Like, yeah, there's like a.

[B]

There's something with a K. Yeah. But then at the end of the video, I was curious because I was like, was there a nick on the investigation? Or did it say neck or something? You know, because at the end of the video, they show a photo. As they wrapping up the investigation, an investigator felt. And again, like, they never say the name of the investigator. Just as, like, an investigator felt a burning sensation on his neck. And then in the video, they show a photo, and it's like, very clearly, three scratch marks down the back of his neck. And they're, like, very, very red and clear. And I was like, is there a connection? Or am I trying to find a connection when there is none? But, yeah, they contacted a dark entity in the basement of the Sally House.

[A]

Man.

[B]

Makes me think of when we were at the Lizzie Borden house. And what was the entity's name who kept calling us sluts? Carl.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Carl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, he didn't declare himself Carl. The people working there called him Carl. Carl. Yeah.

[B]

Cause he's not a real human entity. He's like a. No, not necessarily demonic, but like something. Something that was created from all the other energy.

[A]

I think one of the most fun moments for me at the Lizzie Borden house was so. We were, like, downstairs. It was scary. Carl kept calling us sluts. And then we, like, moved location. And then finally, closer to the end of the night when we were up in the. In the, like, third floor hanging out with the kids. And it was so great. And they were so interactive, and they were, like, calling out things, like reading Goodnight Moon, and they were saying, like, night and horse and snake and, like, all the things we were playing with. And then suddenly they were like, Door. He's coming. Right there. Look, don't go. And then all of a sudden, it was like, sluts. Sluts. And we're like, God damn it. Carl found us.

[B]

Gotta ruin our fun time with the kids.

[A]

He came all the way up from the basement to call us sluts. He had to go like three or four flights of stairs just to call us sluts.

[B]

Thanks, Carl.

[A]

Calm as you see him, Carl.

[B]

Actually, you know what? I got a hit on the other night.

[A]

You did? Why am I saying you did? Like, I'm not surprised.

[B]

Well, okay, so it was Valentine's Day,

[A]

and, oh, what a romantic day we hit on.

[B]

I decided, well, okay, so I'm trying to be.

[A]

Wait, did you go to a club? I meant to ask you this.

[B]

Okay, so I'm trying to be more fun. And, like, do you.

[A]

I thought I was hallucinating when I saw your Instagram story. I literally.

[B]

I lit. Let me tell you. So I. So my friend Madison and a bunch of her girlfriends, we're gonna go to La Fabrica in Cambridge for Valentine's Day. Like, they're like, oh, like, it's a fun Latin, like, club. Let's go drink and dance. Then I go, okay, what time are we meeting? And Madison's like, I think we're gonna go there at 10pm I nearly lost my shit. And Madison's like, please come. Like, you can't back out. And I was like, I need to

[A]

10pm, like 10pm people. Then invite me over 7 to start pre gaming, because if I'm not already out of the house, then it's not gonna. I'm not gonna get there.

[B]

Exactly my point. So they're like, okay, we're going to meet at this girl's house who lived in Cambridge at 9pm it's still late. It's so late. I got ready at 7. I was ready by 7:30. And I was like, if I have to sit here for another two and a half hours before we go out, I will not make it out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I decided, you know what? I'm gonna go get myself a cocktail at a bar down the street from where we're.

[A]

Oh, I love that. That's so great.

[B]

So I walked to this place in Cambridge and I sat at the bar, got a massive thing of nachos, and ordered a 818 tequila on the rocks. And I just sat there and I listened to.

[A]

Perfect Pregame for your Latin club.

[B]

Exactly. And I listened to Jeanette McCurdy's new audiobook.

[A]

Oh, I haven't. I loved her first one.

[B]

So this is a fiction.

[A]

It's a fiction.

[B]

I was. I went into it thinking, full on, it was gonna be a memoir. And it is fiction. It's like a. It's called Half His Age, and it's a kind of sexy but sad, disturbing novel.

[A]

Well, it's probably like fiction, but probably inspired by something. Inspired by some things in her life, and probably a lot of stuff because

[B]

I listened to I'm Glad My Mother is Dead before listening to this one.

[A]

Yeah. Is it a writing style?

[B]

It's very similar. I think that's why I was confused. But, yes, it's fiction. I was sitting at the bar listening to it and just enjoying my nachos. Curling was on because it's the olympics on the TV in front of me. Madison finally texts me at 9pm and is like, we're almost at my friend's. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy. I can't believe I'm still awake. But so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna close out. I asked for my check, and I pay it. And all of a sudden, I feel someone behind me. This man, an entity, this presence, unwelcomed entity. I was like, ah, what do you want from me? But he hit on me and was like, hey, I just wanted to come over and say, like, you're really beautiful. You like my male voice?

[A]

I love watching you eat nachos. Yeah. Chewing.

[B]

No, it was very kind. It was a very kind interaction. It was flattering, but I was like, I am not. I'm so like, thank you, but I have no interest in dating. Have a great night. And then the table behind me, because this is Valentine's Day, right?

[A]

And also, like, you're alone getting a cocktail. Like, you know, other guys who have interests are probably like, oh, this is a single lady. This is a. Like, great. Like, she's out. She's maybe serious about it, because inside

[B]

of my apartment does not mean I want you.

[A]

But it was on a particular day.

[B]

Yes, fair, but okay. So then the couple behind me approached me, and they're like, were you just hit on? And they were like, we haven't been out in eight months. We had a kid, and this is our first date night out. And you just made our night so exciting. And I was like, I'm so happy. I'm so glad I could be your entertainment.

[A]

But yeah.

[B]

So does that make you feel good?

[A]

Do you give you a little bit of energy before your Latin club experience? No.

[B]

I mean, of course. It's, like, flattering. But like, I'm like, I am in the phase of my breakup where I have no desire to date. Like, I am like, so emotionally still, like, attached in that way that like, I couldn't do that and I don't want to. I'm focusing on me, baby. Going to eat my nachos while listening to books on audio. But then we went to La Fabrica and I left within 10 minutes. Cause it was too late. So I took a video of our feet dancing. And I will say it's one thing like someone approaching you at the bar, I'm less bothered by. Cause it was a casual. Like, people weren't getting drunk and rowdy. The men at La Fabrica were like predators.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

You would be dancing. And keep in mind, I was there maybe 20 minutes. Madison said she was proud of me, but it was like eight of us girls. We were all dancing, doing our thing, and it was like a horror movie. You would see a man at the bar staring at you. You'd look away. You keep dancing. Next time you look back, he's three feet closer. You look away. You look back, he's like now behind you. It's like when a cat is lurking, hunting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you hear ringing right now?

[A]

Yeah. I thought it was just my ears.

[B]

No, I was just making sure that we both were hearing and it wasn't like a psychic hit because now I'm obviously a psychic. No, I'm not.

[A]

Oh, you know what? There are people working in my basement. It might be like a drill or something. Yeah, there's always people in my basement.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Also, can I just say like one thing, which is because I got a lot of responses on Instagram and we had the snowstorm, which was now like a month ago in Boston. We had like, I don't know, a

[B]

two feet of snow.

[A]

Yeah, we got like, at my house, I got like 40 plus inches within by 40 inches. I got plowed by 40 inches over like a two week span when it was super cold and nothing was melting. We had one warm day and then I got like snap cold again. We got ice dams. So for everyone who's like, that's so magical. Oh, my gosh, I wish I was there. That's so beautiful. It makes me wish I lived back east again. We have to have someone come check every single exterior wall in our house for water damage because water was pouring inside of one of our rooms. And we have evidence in a couple more rooms because the ice froze on our roof, down the siding of our house. And all in our gutters and then backed up and started going into our house. So I think I might have to move out of the house potentially, if the water's like super bad because they're gonna have to take apart the walls. Just cause something's pretty on the Internet doesn't mean living it so. Great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have more?

[B]

No.

[A]

That's it. Okay. I have evidence.

[B]

It's your turn.

[A]

This isn't my turn. Like, in terms of presenting evidence, but from a listener. Yes. I have two listener stories. This is from our listener Sarah, who has quite a few stories. I'll read some of her other stories in a. In a different episode, but specifically wanted to share. It's a video, but you don't need to watch video because really, it's just an evp.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

From the Vanderbilt Mansion. Okay. It was the end of summer in 2016. I was on the final vacation of my farewell tour before college and Snapchat Memories had just been released. My friend at the time, her family and I were spending the weekend in Newport, touring the old mansions and eating the best New England clam chowder. It was early in the morning, and we had pulled up to the ticket line to purchase ground tours of the Vanderbilt Mansion. I was in total awe, and I told her I wanted to take a video of the grounds. I was super excited that I could take loads of photos and videos and not take up any of my phone storage because of Snapchat. So the entire trip was documented thoroughly via Snapchat, of course. The day was wonderful. The tour was insane. The chowder was a flow in. And that night we went back to our hotel room and I was perusing my footage when I got to the very bottom of the album and I clicked on the grounds video that I'd taken that morning.

[B]

And.

[A]

And I noticed a whisper during the last second of the video. I sat straight up in my bed, put my headphones in. That was a fucking whisper. Luckily, my friend's dad is an audio engineer, and he immediately listened to the video to see if it truly was a separate sound from the wind, which he confirmed and said that he couldn't even render the audio because the wind seemed to silence when the voice spoke.

[B]

Oh. Ooh, that gives me the chili belly.

[A]

So here's the video. I also have a photo of a potential ghost, but I have no clue where it is. If I find it, I will add it. Stay tuned for the update, and then I'll tell you what Sarah heard after.

[B]

Yeah, after we listen.

[A]

We listen. Okay. Ready?

[B]

Closing my Eyes. Wait, we play it again.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

I hear, like, deny. Or, like, I hear deny. And then episode. Like, there's a lot of words, but then, like, episode.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Okay, Sarah heard I died in this house. Oh, let me replay it. I. When I first listened, I heard I died for my sins.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And now listening, I hear I die for this.

[B]

Okay, play it again. I keep hearing, like, episode at the end.

[A]

Or, like, deny for Okay, I wonder.

[B]

Okay, I die at the end of the episode. Spoiler. That's what I'm hearing.

[A]

Well, let us know what you guys hear. That's from Sarah. I'll read some other stuff from Sarah another time.

[B]

I mean, that is really spooky. Just, like, clearly there's an entity right next to Sarah.

[A]

Like, right there.

[B]

I mean, also, speaking of doing a whole episode about Gettysburg and how impossible that would be because it's like, there's so many hauntings. I feel like the old houses of Newport, like, each mansion could have its own. Yeah, they're not houses. They're mansions. They're houses. They're regal. Yeah, each of them could have their own episode because they have so much history. And also, there is a lot of history of poor treatment of slaves and.

[A]

Yeah, even just, like, the staff members, too.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It's wild.

[B]

Bad things that happened there. And just, of course, hauntings.

[A]

The Vanderbilt Mansion. I went a couple years ago, and it is just crazy hearing how much money they spent and, like, knowing that they were outspending themselves and they were still like, whatever, I don't care. I'm trying to be flashy. Like, that was. It was kind of wild. Okay, so I have another email to share. This is from our listener, Annette. Hello, Spooktacularly. Wonderful ladies. That was a hard word to spooktacularly.

[B]

It's a lot of self.

[A]

I was questioning myself as I was reading it. Yeah, I'm Annette. You can use my name because I don't give a fuck. I found Joel energy through morpid, and I have been hooked. I've always been able to feel what other people are feeling. And over the years, I've figured that I am an empath. And some people might think that that would be so awesome or whatever, but I don't think that. Some people I don't feel. Some people I don't feel anything from until I've spent a lot of time with them. Most people, though, seem to be screaming with what they feel at me.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

It's so overwhelming. I need to be able to turn it off and have some Kind of control. I cannot be in crowded places because of this. And I feel it all comes at me and it's just all too much. And I will have panic attacks. I'll feel drained of energy. And for the longest time, I had horrible migraines. In 2015, I was referred to a neurologist when my left arm and hand went numb. And the ER assured me that I wasn't having a stroke. I was diagnosed with Ms. But luckily, that man cared enough about my migraines to try me on different meds. And finally, a year ago, we found one that works.

[B]

Oh, good. I'm sorry.

[A]

I've never told anyone in my family about being an empath. So I'm sure my daughter who listens will have some questions when she hears this. They do know about this photo, though. I shared it on Facebook a while back. This photo is of a cousin through marriage. We'll call him Jeff. We hung out a lot, and he would come stay with us, or we would go visit my husband's grandparents, and we would see Jay there. The grandparents had custody of Jay, and they were more like his parents. Until Mama Dee passed. She had cancer and lost the battle. It upset us all. She was such a wonderful lady. Even more upsetting was that Gramps then kicked Jay out like he was just this unwanted pest. Even though my marriage into that family didn't last, he was still family and actually is family to my daughters. And so I ended up taking him in. Now, this photo was taken over 20 years ago, and shortly after Maw Maw Dee had passed, we were just chilling in his aunt's house at her pool. Now, at the end of her time there, the meds that Dee was on made her face really puffy and swollen. When I snapped this photo, J was the only person in the pool. When I looked back at the photos on the SD card, I cried. I freaked the fuck out. And then I cried again. Because I surely did not expect to see Dee in the pool behind me.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Lots of love and good energy from Annette.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

It is so clear. Like she's just on the other side of the pool, like, wandering around. Her hair looks wet, like she'd been underwater.

[B]

Like, is she swimming in the pool?

[A]

Yeah, she's just there swimming.

[B]

Wait, this is wild.

[A]

She's still hanging out with the family and with her, like, essentially, son.

[B]

It's also interesting. Cause I can't tell when you're looking at the photo. The face of the spirit is very white, almost like a ghost white. You know? Yeah, I can't tell if it's. That's how she's appearing or if it's the light in the world that's kind of watching her exposure.

[A]

Cause like if you look at the left hand side of the water and then if you look at Jay, just like his chest where the sun is hitting him, it's like blown out.

[B]

But it does make it even more haunting.

[A]

It makes it more haunting.

[B]

Yeah. Damn. Wow. I love paranormal evidence.

[A]

So wild, juicy stuff.

[B]

If you have your own paranormal evidence, please share it with us. Or if you have caught EVPs, we want like, we want to hear them. And we will do an Encounters episode. I mean, we have like, people have emailed us, but if you have not emailed us yet, this is your sign. The universe is calling to you. The universe is sending you this message. It's not us. It's the universe. It's not us. Begging you for your paranormal evidence. But yeah, email us at 2girls, 1ghostpodcastmail.com. What else? Love us.

[A]

Love us. Head over to patreon. Speaking of EVPs and whatnot, if you do join our Patreon, years ago, there was a very convincing EVP that someone sent us of potentially an alien abduction captured on someone's phone that was in their pocket. You can find that on our Patreon.

[B]

The whole video is on there, actually. Let's see, how do you. How is it labeled so that people can search it?

[A]

I think if you just search alien EVP.

[B]

Oh yeah, alien videos from encounters114. The whole two long things are posted for you to be spooked out by. They are very spooky. Good memory, good reminder. Now I want to re listen to this.

[A]

I was thinking of it in the very first story that you shared from Reddit with the noise of the water and everything. Because I was like, okay, well, we also have heard one that's kind of convincing for being dropped onto the ground and the whirring of a spaceship, the

[B]

crunching of the leaves, everything. Yeah, yeah. So join us on Patreon. Also rate and review us. Subscribe on YouTube. Like us. Share with everyone like us.

[A]

Love us. Like us.

[B]

Love us. No, but truly, share with all of your friends, family, truly. If you don't know what to say to a stranger, say, listen to two girls, one ghost.

[A]

Do you see dead people?

[B]

Or that. That's a better way to start a conversation.

[A]

You see a pretty girl at the bar, tap her shoulder and say, do you see dead people?

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Why, yes, sir, I do.

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You'd love this podcast and also, can I take you out?

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Yeah. We love you. Thanks so much for joining us.

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And also thank you to our team. Thank you to Jamie Ryan, Emma La Venter. We are so grateful for you. And also our agent and manager. We never give them any credit.

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Thanks to everyone who's behind the scenes helping us do things. Sony, everyone.

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All of you, shout out.

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Just global shout out.

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Global shout out.

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We love you all.

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And Vevo, see you on the other side.

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Very spooky.

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Thanks for listening.

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