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Episode 374 - Vampire History, Lore & Reddit Scary Stories with Crimes Of
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So good, so good, so good.
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girl.
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Winter is so last season and now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders that perfect hang on the patio. Sundress those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done. Hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Very spooky. We want to suck your blood. Let's do guess what we're talking about today.
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Dracula. Well, sort of.
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Vampires. What if I was like fairies? Fairies? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.
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Who knows? We don't. All we know is that hua, hua, hua. Season is still many months away.
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But I thought you were gonna introduce us.
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But yeah, true vampires are every day.
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Yes.
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And we are two girls, one ghost.
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Two girls, one ghost. We are your ghostesses. That is Corinne. Hello, I'm Sabrina. And you might be like, oh my gosh, new set. Where are you? What the heck?
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What the honk. It looks so different.
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It's cause it is. We are actually at the crime house Crimes of studio where we record the podcast Crimes of. And we brought Sven. It's very like retro 90s in your. In your basement.
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And obviously we brought some influence to parts of the set because we've got practical magic, hocus pocus, the craft it psycho. And every once in a while there's things floating through like Ouija boards and
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creepy clown masks, goosebumps books. Here we've got it all. It's really fun here. And this isn't just any episode. This is a collab episode. And you might be like, oh, who's the guest? It's us. We're guesting with ourselves because this is a collab with Crimes of and we're doing a vampire two parter. It doesn't matter what order you listen to it. This episode comes out on Sunday and then the Crimes of episode comes out on Tuesday. This is going to be a very like vampire lore history, Reddit stories, like people's real experiences with very real, very scary potential vampires.
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I believe every single one of them.
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We believe most things.
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Yeah. But I was like, I went in being a little skeptical of people's Reddit stories, being like, am I really going to find anything? And then I was like, oh, shit. Vampires are amongst us.
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What if your cold right now isn't a cold, but it's like you are slowly turning into a vampire.
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Oh, my God. This is what happens during you're transitioning into the tree buds are transitioning me. Yes. Go Birch tree. Go make me a vampire. I shouldn't say that out loud. I don't actually want to be a vampire, thank you very much. But Sabrina's gonna walk us through that on the two girls, one ghost Feed. And then if you hop over to the crimes of Feed, we're gonna be talking about a vampire cult. The Rod Feral cult, specifically.
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It's a very true, very real, true crime case about a vampire cult, which I don't know much about. So I'm scared.
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I'll leave you with this one hint.
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Okay.
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This man identified as a like 500 year old vampire. And two people died, so.
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Died or were murdered.
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Murdered.
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Oh, shit. Okay, well, we love vampires. Not that vampire, but vampires. We love vampires.
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We have to say that so that the real life vampires don't come and murder us.
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I would be okay with like becoming a vampire and living the very twilight life of vampires, but I don't want to live the Nosferatu life of vampires.
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And also, I feel like there's a difference between a vampire choosing to turn you and a vampire just draining you and leaving you dead.
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Yeah, well, some people do that with their energy.
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Energy vampires.
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But yeah, let's talk about vampires. There's something very alluring about them. They have a je ne sais quoi. I feel like there needs to be some French accent.
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They're all French.
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They're all from New Orleans and they're all French. Right. Do you have a favorite vampire in pop culture?
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How could I not say Edward Cullen after I did my Hooahua. Hooahuahua.
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I know you also have a dream of it being Bigfoot, but doing that scene in the trees.
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Oh, where I'm riding on Bigfoot's back. You think you can outrun me? No, Bigfoot, but you should try.
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Point being, there are so many sexy vampires and sexy Bigfoot out there.
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Who do you like? You were very into Nosferatu. The. The movie.
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It is a movie.
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There's.
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Yeah, there's two movies.
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Well, that's what I meant. The new one. You really love the new one.
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I'm into Damon Salvatore.
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Oh, I had a wrong answer. I want to pivot.
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You want mine?
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Yeah.
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You can't have them. It's mine.
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We can't both have them. I'll take anyone from Vampire Diaries.
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Fair. So the point being, there are lots of sexy vampires out there, especially in pop culture and the media, because they have spooky woven into their whole lore. Not only are they ancient, but they're also out there biting through flesh, draining blood, and sometimes turning other people into immortal beings along the way. But there's also this very long history that goes way back in regards to vampires, which is what we're going to talk about today.
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Ooh, there's the 16th century countess who supposedly bathed in the blood of her victim. The Blood Countess. And we even covered her a couple seasons ago in Crimes of the Paranormal. So you can check out that episode. We'll link it in the show notes.
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Yeah, that was a fun one. We've also covered the Vampire of Medvedza. I think that's how you said it. Medved, Medveda, something like that. I said it right back in episode 315. But today we're going to look into the history and then we're going to share some possibly very real encounters people have had with vampires walking amongst us today, as found on Reddit, because Reddit is the place to go for scary true stories. And then there have even been cases of modern day vampires grooming their young followers. Cases where people have gone missing after getting a little too close to underground vampire circles.
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Yeah, and even cases where someone tried to use vampirism. Vampirism. How do I say it? I don't know. But they tried to use it to justify some real true life crimes.
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So before we jump into your episode, the vampire Cult of Rod Ferrell, we are going to take a step back and look at vampire history as a whole. Because where did this idea of undead bloodsuckers come from? And how did it evolve into the sexy vampires that we know it to be today? And then also, what about the people who don't just like vampires, but claim to be vampires? Yeah, the only thing older than a vampire is the history of vampires, which dates all the way back to what is called the cradle of civilization, Ancient mesopotamia. Sometime between 2000 and 3000 BC legends emerged about figures like Lamashtu and Lilitu, who were female demons that were said to prey on children and drink their blood. And then the ancient Greeks believed in empousae which were shape shifting demons that fed on humans.
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You know, there's a lot of things problematic with the show Ancient Aliens, but I will say, like, one of the things that is in common with that show and what you're saying is that there's a lot across different cultures, across different times, people who didn't communicate with one another have the same lore. So it's like, what are these things? Are they demons? Are they aliens? Are they vampires? How do they have access to everyone?
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If they are vampires and they existed in 2000 to 3000 BC, is that same vampire still alive today?
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Yeah. Do they actually have a real death? Are they alive forever or does it feel like they're alive forever? Because it's like thousands of years and that's all.
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That's a good question.
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We remember.
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I don't think we'll get the answer to that. Okay. And then when we look more modern history, but still far away history, vampires really have a place in Eastern Europe. Countries like Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and Eastern Russia have some of the oldest and most detailed vampire stories out there.
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Yeah. Because I immediately think Transylvania.
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I feel like that's og Well, I think people really think Vlad the Impaler, which we'll get to in a minute. And we did cover on Two Girls One Ghost as well, I remember. But the earliest written reference of vampires goes all the way back to 1047 CE, when the word up here, U p I r, which is the Slavic word for vampire, popped up in a Russian text. And a lot of people believe that it was actually in reference to this prince that people didn't like.
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Oh.
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And it was kind of like an insult to speak about him. But the details beyond that are pretty murky. And then this is what we covered back in episode 315. There is this idea in Romania of strigoi, an undead spirit that rises from the grave to spread disease, cause chaos, and drink the blood of the living. Which is very much the movie Nosferatu. Like that's Nosferatu was made to explain diseases traveling and like the plague traveling. But the word vampire showed up in, like 1720s. This is back. We're talking Habsburg Empire in central Eastern Europe, where there were some pretty alarming cases in, like, the rural areas of vampires or strigoi. This is what we covered in episode 315. But there was this story of vampires in this one town that the government literally sent officials to go do a report. And there is a document, a government document that basically says, yes, there is a vampire Tormenting the people of this town.
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That was a good episode because it kind of made you waffle between, is this just some sort of illness and plague or was there really a vampire?
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Right. Because in 1725, a recently buried corpse had been terrorizing the town. That is what is in the government document. And that is when they were. Vampire starts to come about and takes off. The vampire lore spread across Habsburg Empire and then made their way to France and England throughout the 18th century. And then when colonizers went to America, they brought this vampire superstition with them and potentially brought vampires with them, especially those who went to the New Orleans port, which I think we've also covered that story. I clearly love vampires, but the vampires people were describing back then and like 1700s is pretty different from how we describe vampires. Like, they weren't as sexy and alluring and wanting to run through the trees with.
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Right. They were to be feared. They could take down entire communities.
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They were said to be bloated and purplish from feeding on blood with overgrown nails and animal like strength. So, like a corpse. Yeah, a bloated.
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Gross. And it wasn't just people. Like, I feel like now when we talk about vampires, the idea is kind of like, oh, are they going to come date you or are they going to come, like, just suck your blood? But I feel like a lot of it back then, too, was about livestock dying and also being. It all goes back to diseases.
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Well, perfect segue, because I feel like diseases are specifically what vampires became the scapegoat for. But when we look at the specific diseases, it kind of shows you how the legends that we believe and like, the lore we believe about vampires came about. So there are a lot of different diseases, basically. The point being is, back then people didn't understand the diseases. And so they. And we see this a lot. A lot of the times in history where people would assign it to, like, a supernatural force because they didn't have the scientific understanding.
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Right.
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There are a couple different diseases that were attributed to being vampire, but one is pellagra, which comes from a dietary deficiency. But it was very unpleasant. I hope no one ever has this. It came with what they called the four Ds. Dermatitis, diarrhea, dementia, and death. But what really stands out about this disease is that it caused terrible breath and extreme sensitivity to sunlight.
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Oh, okay.
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Which are two notable traits about vampires, like the sensitivity to light. And then I think there's some lore with the bad breath, but is there?
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It's almost like, I almost feel like the opposite. Because they say onions will keep them away. So I feel like if you have
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onion breath, onions keep them away. I thought it was just garlic.
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Oh, yeah. Shit, you're right.
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I was like, well, that's new, guys.
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I'm under the weather. That's my excuse.
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You're turning into a vampire is what's happening.
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It's onions. It's onions. I swear it's just onions. It's garlic. Who? Okay.
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And then there was another. This was a blood disorder called porphyria, and it made people look unusually pale. Vampires. Check. And in severe cases, it caused gum recession, making the teeth look longer.
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Ooh, like the fangs. Yeah.
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Vampire chick.
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It just feels so terrible for all these people.
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I know. But I also love seeing where things come from. Like, the same.
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Yeah.
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Like, the etymology. Is that the word of words and phrases where, like, the history of it and how it came to be. I love that stuff.
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I'm also kind of curious how people started to pivot to vampires and the idea of vampires instead of, like, when did we get off blaming gods for everything?
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Good question.
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Right? Because it used to be the ancient gods, they're fighting, or they took our crops because we didn't give them enough.
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Well, I guess the first two. The first couple of vampire, like, beings were female demons. So there's, like, a slow evolution.
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Like a fallen angel. Fallen God. Yeah.
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Okay. So one of the other side effects of porphyria, the blood disorder, was that garlic actually made the symptoms worse. So people who had this blood disorder would avoid garlic at all costs.
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Okay. All right. So now we finally have the origin of where garlic came into this.
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Garlic repels vampires. And then another disease that has so many direct correlations is rabies. Yeah. It spreads through biting, which is, like, quite literally the quintessential vampire thing. It also causes sensitivity to light, erratic sleep, aggressive behavior. All align with vampire stereotypes. These three diseases I just told you about, I'm not going to resay them because they're hard to say. They can dramatically change how someone looks. And also, some accounts say that patients would refuse to look at their own reflections and. Because it changed how much they look. Wow. Which adds to the other stereotype or beliefs about vampires.
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In photographs or in mirrors, you won't see the vampire.
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And when I was researching this, I was like, I love the idea of Doctors in the 1700s being like, is it rabies? Is he a vampire?
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Or is it vampirism?
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And most of the time it was vampire.
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Vampire rabies is so terrifying.
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Yeah.
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I would almost rather A vampire. Yeah.
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I for sure rather become a vampire than have rabies.
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Yeah. Because rabies, that's the end.
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Well, there's. If you get the thing quick enough.
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Well, then you don't have rabies. You just got treated and stopped.
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Yeah, true.
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Stopped it before. But if you actually get it and it fully goes in. Ya.
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It gets.
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Yeah, it gets. Yeah.
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Makes me think of the Office when.
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Okay. Have you never seen every episode of the Office? You know, that's an unpopular thing to say. Nothing against it. It just wasn't a series that I.
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That's how I feel with Friends.
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Like, the whole thing of.
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I've watched a ton of different Friends episodes, but I've never watched it. Beginning to end.
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Right. Yeah. I only recently did that.
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Yeah. Whereas I watch the Office beginning to end. Like, every year.
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It's your Gilmore Girls that. So many people.
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I feel like every single year. I also do that with Gilmore Girls.
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Okay.
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Point being, yes, doctors didn't have the science or understanding of a lot of these diseases, so they were inclined to believe supernatural forces were at work, which in turn created some very interesting postmortem slash death practices. A patient would pass away, they would put the body to rest, and the local town would wait if anyone else got sick. Like another illness spread or bad luck or poor harvest or like, the animals were dying. Something like that. They would be like, oh, my gosh. That meant the person that we just buried and made a grave for is actually a vampire.
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Is the idea that they just, like, came back up from the grave and now they're wreaking havoc?
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Yeah. Okay.
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So I'm like, what do you mean they're dead?
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But don't worry. They have a solution for it. They're like, okay, we know it's a vampire, but we know how to take care of this. Don't you worry. We're gonna dig up the body. They would cut open the chest, remove the organs, burn the organs, and then even more gruesome or infamous, some even believe that you were to consume the ashes of said dead vampire because it
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would cure you or spread the freaking disease.
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It's like the first vaccine.
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Ooh, cannibalism. But make it chic. Make it goth. In preparation for summer and hosting, I just ordered the cielo couch from Cozy for my sunroom, and I am so excited for it to come in.
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That's so young.
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And it is important to note that scientists at this time. Did know that tuberculosis was caused by bacteria, but it hadn't reached everywhere. News traveled differently than it does today. And so the rural communities like exeter, rhode island, didn't know that information. So they're working on some old textbooks. And when mercy died and the tuberculosis continued to spread, they assumed vampire. They became convinced that mercy was causing the spread of tuberculosis because she was a vampire. So even though the town doctor advised against it, People of the community encouraged the browns to go through a horrifying ritual. To save Edwin brown. Mercy's body was exhumed. Her heart and liver Were torn out and burned Right there in the cemetery. And then the ashes of mercy's heart and liver. Were mixed with water. And given to edwin to drink.
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Jeez, it's so dark.
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And do we think this saved Edwin's life?
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No.
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Yeah. No, it did not.
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Wait, when did this happen?
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1891 or 2.
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Okay, so this is during the time period. Where, like, we're entering the victorian era, where they start crushing up, like, bones of mummies and snorting it, like, okay, yeah.
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And lobotomies are around the corner. Yeah.
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We're experimenting with the human body, Sometimes consuming it.
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Yes. This did not work. And just two months later, Edwin died. And joined the rest of his family on the other side. It's horrifying. But it is also important to remember. That even though it does sound unthinkable to us, this was not coming from a place of cruelty. Or like, ooh, I can't wait to taste my sister's organs. No. People just didn't have understanding of modern science and vampires. I wonder if gave them an explanation back then.
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If people were, like, really grossed out by that idea. Or if they were just so panicked that they were like, sure, let's try anything.
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I think they were like, sure, let's try anything. Literally blow smoke up your ass. Like, that whole phrase comes from when people were drowning. They thought if you blew, like, air up the butt, it would, like, push the water out of your lungs and save your life.
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Had they never done an autopsy before, and, like, no one had ever cut open a human body and seen anything. They have.
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They're still figuring it out.
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Okay.
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This is also the time of the two guys in Edinburgh stealing.
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Oh, the body snatchers.
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The body snatchers. Gosh, to be alive during this time,
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I would be fearful of my own life.
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Yeah, it's like a different iteration of the oregon trail, where it's like, congratulations, you have tuberculosis. But they think you're a vampire, so they're gonna feed your organs to everyone.
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If the body snatchers don't grab you first. Yeah. Yeah.
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So now let's talk about vampires in pop culture and one of the most notable vampires in pop culture, Dracula. We can't talk about vampires without talking about Dracula. And the one and only inspo. I guess not one and only. There. There are multiple. But the most notable inspiration for Dracula is Vlad the Impaler, who we talked about in episode 133 of Two Girls One Ghost. He ruled from 1456 to 1462, and he had a reputation for torturing and impaling his enemies and drinking their blood. He also apparently had a condition that caused blood in his tears, which I didn't know that was.
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Oh, what condition is that?
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I don't know. I didn't write that part down.
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Okay, well, it doesn't matter. I hope none of us get it.
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Yeah. His dad's name was also known as Dracul. Very similar to Dracula. And then there's so many other vampiric beings in history that by the 19th century, vampires start popping up in art, literature and politics. And with, like, the combination of vampire becoming mainstream and a lot of these, like, historical figures like Vlad the Impaler, a lot of writers were like, wow, I'm drawn to these stories. Like, how do I take inspiration for them and make my own narratives? Which makes sense that Bram Stoker sat down and wrote Dracula in 1897. He pulled from the Vladly Impaler influences, and some people consider Dracula one of the most famous works in English literature ever.
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I would agree with that. I used the word nary the other day, and I'm like, I can't use it twice in a row.
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That's it.
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Too many times. But nary a person who hasn't heard of Dracula.
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No, truly, everyone knows Dracula. And then in 1931, Dracula was made into a film by Universal Studios, and it starred a Hungarian actor, Bela Lugosi. I think that's how you say his name. And he had these rolling Rs, the slow, deliberate way he spoke. And that truly became the blueprint for vampires in media.
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I'm going to suck your blood. I don't know if that's how he says it, but I think of the Count in Sesame street now. Yeah, I'm actually shocked. My child says, one, two, three normally, because I say one, a two, a three.
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And also, like, his hands are always like this. Like this, like Vampire walk.
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A
It is purple like a corpse.
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B
Yes. He also had a cape. I'm not talking about Sesame street anymore. Back to the movie Dracula. He had a cape charm, that very aristocratic vibe. All of that really stuck and kind of solidified the imagery and personality of vampires. And then 45 years later, Anne Rice came along in 1976 and published interview with the Vampire, which follows a vampire named Louis and his very complicated relationship with the dramatic antihero Lestat. And then that turned into vampire Chronicle series, and there's a bunch of adaptations from that. And then because of Anne Rice's work, she dove into themes like identity, trauma, race, and it really, like, opened up the vampire genre to explore all these more complicated things in the world.
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A
Interesting.
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B
Then there was Blacula, which introduced the first black vampire in film. And, like, at one point, what became a really important part of the vampire culture.
- [26:50]
A
Romance. Sexy. Sexy. Although I kind of think Anne Rice was the first one to do something similar. Like, romance is coming, but like a casual relationship.
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B
I would go on a date with a vampire. What's the Disney movie? Mom had a date with my mom. Mom's date with a vampire. Something like that.
- [27:07]
A
Something like that.
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B
But we had Buffy the Vampire Slayer in 1997, Twilight in 2005, True Blood in 2008, Vampire Diaries in 2009. The list goes on.
- [27:17]
A
So good.
- [27:18]
B
Point being, these books and TV shows made vampires very mainstream. But there's also an underground vampire community and also real life vampires.
- [27:28]
A
One that we've recently learned about.
- [27:30]
B
Yes. And I am gonna talk about him right now.
- [27:33]
A
Okay, great.
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B
Yes.
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A
I wasn't sure if we dabble in that or not, but.
- [27:38]
B
So here's the thing. I'm nervous to talk about this guy because someone has tried to investigate him and, like, literally disappeared. Like, it's unsolved. No one knows who.
- [27:49]
A
She says, oh, my God. The person who told. We won't say who told us about him, but it was someone in Salem. And they said it in, like, a hushed, secretive tone.
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B
Yes.
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A
With a lot of, like, have you heard about this? Yeah.
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B
Do you want to know who we're talking about? Father Sebastian.
- [28:06]
A
How did someone disappear? Does he have a documentary about him?
- [28:08]
B
Yeah, but is it. Is it made by him?
- [28:11]
A
That's a good question.
- [28:12]
B
He scares me. Like, I really. Like, my heart is racing a little bit. Even looking at a picture of him is a little unsettling. But you might know him because he makes custom dental grade prosthetic fangs.
- [28:24]
A
But. Yeah, what is it? A fangsmith or something like that?
- [28:28]
B
Yeah.
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A
Professional term.
- [28:30]
B
But the real thing is, he's for sure a cult leader.
- [28:33]
A
It's a vampire cult.
- [28:34]
B
Yeah. Unfortunately, his story is super.
- [28:37]
A
The one that kind of, like, borders on. Is it real, is it not?
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B
It's real.
- [28:40]
A
Yeah.
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B
His story is so big, and because we are afraid of him, we're not gonna go too deep in it. But briefly, his real name is Aaron Todd Hoyt, and he hosts vampire balls all around the world. And according to someone in Salem, who, again, we won't. Out. People go to these balls, and Father Sebastian literally, like, sits in this, like, regal chair and just absorbs all of your energy.
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A
Yeah. Feeds on you.
- [29:04]
B
So you're willingly going to sacrifice your energy, even though, like, the energy it would take for me to even, like, get ready would drain me. So, like, there's not much for you to take from me, Father Sebastian.
- [29:14]
A
I will give Father Sebastian one compliment. I think that there's something quite impressive about him setting a precedent. That at a ball in a party that he's throwing, his only task is to, like, sit on a chair and relax. And I appreciate that.
- [29:29]
B
For him, yeah. Being a cult leader is way better than being manipulated.
- [29:34]
A
He doesn't like to do much at the party, and it's normal if he's just, like, sitting and being like, oh, I don't feel. I'm a little sleepy. I like that.
- [29:42]
B
Well, he absorbs everyone's energy. He's.
- [29:45]
A
He's powering up.
- [29:45]
B
He's recharging, draining everyone. And also, maybe there's some other nefarious things happening behind the curtains at these balls, because at Sebastian's third annual Vampire Ball, a woman named Susan Walsh showed up to investigate this whole organization as a part of her journal, as her work. She was a journalist. A day later, on July 16, 1996, Susan Walsh disappeared. And the case has never been solved.
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A
One day.
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B
Yeah.
- [30:12]
A
Whoa. Sorry, my nose is. One day.
- [30:15]
B
One day. Yeah.
- [30:17]
A
I thought that this was going to be deep into an investigation like that someone uncovered something finally a little too real.
- [30:23]
B
One day. Some people have speculated that Father Sebastian was involved, but there's never been any proof of that. But the timing, and it's just very.
- [30:31]
A
Suspicious.
- [30:31]
B
Yeah, suspicious.
- [30:32]
A
Well. And also, I'll say this. Father Sebastian could be a totally normal, innocent person.
- [30:38]
B
I'm literally about to tell you how he's not.
- [30:40]
A
Oh. But I was gonna say, you never know who is following another person or what they're capable of. Especially when someone might idolize someone who is said to be a vampire. What lengths will they go to to become one themselves or feel worthy of being around one.
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B
And I do very much believe. Cause there are different types of vampires in modern day. There are people who. So it's more of just like obsession with vampires. But then there are people who identify as vampires and they're called sanguinarians. They drink blood.
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A
Yes.
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B
But then there are the others who absorb energy and like sometimes they do it without even being a self proclaimed vampire because there are people who just drain your energy. But yeah, there are people who call themselves. Well they don't call themselves that. They are called clinical vampires because they believe they have a physical need and need to drink blood.
- [31:36]
A
The Rod Ferrell case that we'll go into is there's some like pretty rough parts. Yikes in that. Because with that sometimes when there aren't people to drink the blood of, there's some self harm involved in order to.
- [31:52]
B
To get blood.
- [31:53]
A
Drink your own blood.
- [31:55]
B
Oh geez. Okay, well here's the sentence that proves that Sebastian, Father Sebastian ain't so great. We can't confirm if he was involved in Susan Walsh's disappearance, but it has come out that he does not treat women well at all. One former member claimed that Father Sebastian groomed her into becoming one of his girlfriends. He controlled how she dressed, he forced her to work without pay. And it all escalated to the point where he pressured her into signing a submissive contract. Like 50 shades of gray, but like not consensual.
- [32:26]
A
Right. Which 50 shades of grey was inspired by Twilight.
- [32:30]
B
Makes sense.
- [32:31]
A
The author literally said that she was like book for book was like, oh yeah. I could just kind of take a similar premise.
- [32:36]
B
Yeah. But with all of that creepy vampire history and how it's evolved to what it is today, we decided to find some stories from Reddit, One of our favorite places for the paranormal deep dives to see, okay, what kind of vampires are out there in the real world today that we don't talk about, that we don't know about, but now we will. This first story was posted on the ghosts forum on Reddit three years ago. The username has been deleted, but the original poster asked if anyone had an encounter with what they thought might have been a vampire. And this was one of the responses. I think I met one once in a small town in the interior of Minas Jarai, Brazil. There was a legend that an old man who lived in the remote part of town was a vampire. That this man never aged, that he only ate raw meat, and that if you talked to him, you would become tired in no time. Ooh And I met him once, I spoke to him once and it was scary. He introduced himself as Uncle Jonas. He looked to be about 45 years old, tall, thin, nice looking, like he knew how to express himself, he knew how to dress. And I was about 12 at the time. I'm now 24. So the dumb kid that I was and curious about the vampire that I was talking to, I asked Uncle Jonas, is it true that you are a vampire? And he looked at me kind of irritated and immediately asked, where did you hear that? I told him that my neighbor told me because my neighbor had told me that. He replied, I wouldn't say I'm a vampire, but animals sure do have tasty nourishing blood. I mean, I got goosebumps when he said that. And to be honest, like if a bunch of kids in the town started calling me a witch, like, I would lean in.
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A
Yeah, you play into it for sure. It took me until like two years ago to realize my Uncle Steve's knee scar was from surgery and that he wasn't actually attacked by a shark, which is what he told me for years.
- [34:35]
B
But here's where the story gets worse. The user said, I got goosebumps when he said that. I was so afraid he would do something, I sprinted into my house and locked the doors. Then the next day. So this user ran into Uncle Jonas the vampire around 6pm Goes to bed. The next morning, we heard from the newspaper that there had been a chupacabra attack in a place near our house where all of the animals were attacked at dawn.
- [35:01]
A
Oh my God.
- [35:02]
B
But here's what scares me about this. The farm that had the attack belonged to the neighbor who told me that Jonas was a vampire.
- [35:10]
A
How did he find out?
- [35:11]
B
Because she said my neighbor told me.
- [35:13]
A
Yeah, but how many there could be? So many neighbors.
- [35:16]
B
She covers said like this neighbor, she was outside of her house. That farm belonged to that woman. And when I saw the news, I thought it was some type of revenge. I never saw him again. And I also never forgot about him. To add to this story, they say that he didn't age because he had been living in the area for almost 20 years. And he always looked the same. Same hairstyle, same expression. It's as if nothing changed over time. He claimed to have a son who was also very much like him, but no one ever saw them together in the same place. So it was as if he was almost posing as a son.
- [35:51]
A
I don't know. Weird.
- [35:52]
B
We never knew.
- [35:53]
A
That's super strange. I'll be honest. The first half, I was like, oh, yeah, this is for sure just some guy playing into the lore and scaring the kids.
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B
But then the attack the next morning
- [36:02]
A
to the person who in a chupacabra attack, it's not just like, oh, a bunch of livestock is dead. Chupacabra. Like, it is two fang marks. They're drained of blood. Yep. And it's not like some guy was just pissed and went and murdered a couple animals. This is a very specific, it's targeted way of killing too.
- [36:20]
B
So there's a vampire in Brazil, we believe.
- [36:23]
A
And then I found two short stories. And I'm so sorry about my nose and the way that I sound. I was told it sounds like I'm bawling. So let's just pretend that I'm crying through these vampire stories.
- [36:32]
B
Because you're so scared.
- [36:34]
A
Because I'm so scared that I might date a vampire. Which is the theme that I went with.
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B
Oh, I like this theme.
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A
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A
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B
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A
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B
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A
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A
so these were on two completely different Reddit threads.
- [39:20]
B
Okay.
- [39:20]
A
But they shared so many similarities and I was like, oh my God, is this what dating a vampire is like? Okay, the first one is from Nausean Clover. It was posted only a month ago.
- [39:30]
B
Oh my God.
- [39:31]
A
So in March of 2026. If someone's not listening live. I'm 27 years old and recently I've been dealing with insomnia. It happens every few years for me. I got bored of just laying in bed, awake all night, doom scrolling on my phone. So I started to go take long walks down the road at night. I live in a rural area, so I almost never see anyone there. Just occasionally, maybe a car driving by. Anyway, the other night I was on one of my walks when I saw her. She looked like a pretty normal girl around my age or maybe a couple years younger. She was dressed in all black, a hoodie and jeans. Her hair looked like it had been dyed light pink, but it was literally my dream hair. The pink. You've done it before.
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B
I know.
- [40:11]
A
Bring it back if it's your dream hair.
- [40:13]
B
I don't know why I do it. I'm slowly going more blonde, but I have to do it slowly.
- [40:16]
A
Did you say that was like a rich brunette Hair.
- [40:19]
B
No, look, it's lighter at the bottom. I literally went two weeks ago to get it. Start lightening it.
- [40:24]
A
Okay. Started lightning.
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B
Yeah.
- [40:25]
A
Okay.
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B
It's a.
- [40:26]
A
On your way to blonde. Yeah. I thought you were trying to say
- [40:30]
B
dunk my hair into bleach overnight.
- [40:32]
A
You were. Just reminded me of my Brianna, who was one of our college friends. She is, like, black hair, but she convinced herself that she had brunette hair and told me I was blonde. I was like, no, that's not how that works. You're brunette, I'm brunette. We're both brunette. But you're, like, almost black. Anyway, the two blondes at Two Girls, One ghost are going to continue telling you about vampires. Her hair looked like it had been dyed pink at some point, but it was faded, like she dyed it a long time ago and hadn't touched it up. Long story short, she asked me if I had any cigarettes. I don't smoke cigs anymore. I just recently switched to vaping, which isn't much better, but I don't need a lecturing. Anyway, I told her that I had a vape if she wanted a hit of that, and she politely declined.
- [41:14]
B
Giving a vape to a stranger, is
- [41:17]
A
that weirder than a. Oh. Cause you're like. You're sharing it with your mouth.
- [41:21]
B
Yeah.
- [41:21]
A
Germs, rabies. That kind of got us talking, though. We ended up standing there talking about random stuff for a while, like music we liked, random life stuff, and some philosophical ramblings that honestly are not important for this context. What made this encounter weird was when she randomly asked me if I'd ever wanted to be bitten by a vampire. I tried sounding cool, and I said, maybe if it was a cute vampire. And her expression lit up and she laughed and then asked for my arm.
- [41:54]
B
What?
- [41:54]
A
I honestly thought she was joking around until she rolled up my sleeve and bit down, and she bit down hard enough that I definitely felt my skin break. And I don't know if her teeth were just really sharp or if she had some sort of cosmetic fang thing that some people get, but I felt two extremely sharp points in the bite. Most of you probably would have pulled away or freaked out at her, but I was kind of crushing on her at the time. Part of me was a little into it. She kept biting down, and she was sucking on the same spot for maybe 20 or 30 seconds before letting go. After that, she pulled out one of those little alcohol wipes from her bag and then cleaned the bite mitt. Hey, at least she's.
- [42:31]
B
She cleans up after a meal.
- [42:32]
A
Literally, I felt like she was genuinely showing me some care. She thanked me and said that my blood tasted really good. Which, honestly, I didn't know how to respond to other than awkwardly saying thanks back. At this point, I was pretty flushed and nervous. But we kept talking for a while longer and I don't know exactly how long. Maybe it was an hour or two. But eventually we just went our separate ways and I walked home. I had a pretty nasty bruise on my arm and I had two small scabs where she bit me. It was pretty sore on the walk home, but it doesn't really hurt much now. I also cleaned it with soap and water just in case, but it doesn't seem infected or anything. Anyway, I still have my reflection in the mirror and I'm not allergic to garlic or anything.
- [43:11]
B
Well, yeah, because you didn't drink their blood. Isn't that how it's supposed to. How you get changed into a vampire?
- [43:16]
A
Oh, is it? I thought it was just like, if you're left alive.
- [43:19]
B
Well, I guess it depends on the different lore. Yeah. Cause Twilight. Yeah.
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A
It's like if you're not fully eaten.
- [43:26]
B
Yeah. But then true blood, I think you
- [43:28]
A
have to drink their blood.
- [43:30]
B
You have to drink their blood. And then you get killed with vampire blood inside of you. And then you get buried. And then you come to the next day and you're a vampire.
- [43:38]
A
Lots of rules.
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B
Lots of rules.
- [43:39]
A
Okay, one more.
- [43:40]
B
I need to talk about this one more first, because it does feel like. Does it not sound like this user almost was in a trance?
- [43:47]
A
I hadn't really thought about it like that. But yeah, now that you're saying that,
- [43:50]
B
like, I don't know how much time went by. Like, it didn't really hurt. I felt, like, drawn by into this girl.
- [43:57]
A
Yeah. I did want to pull their arm away. It kind of reminds me. Oh, my God, my nose is so bad. But it reminds me of what we do in the shadows. I love when she's, like, flirting with, like, college boys or, like, young guys, and then suddenly she just, like, eats them and dips or does something like that.
- [44:15]
B
It's a comedic version of vampires.
- [44:17]
A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay, this other one is from a deleted user 3 years ago on a different feed. Okay, maybe I'm delusional, but I swear my old situationship is a vampire. I don't know much at all about vampires, but from what I've seen of her, she resembles one to me. She has long, sharp canines. I wouldn't say they looked out of this world, but they certainly stood Out. When she smiled, she would always playfully bite me. And the sharpness of those teeth were beyond painful. I always would instantly bleed by the smallest prick of canine.
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B
They're dating a cat.
- [44:50]
A
It does kind of feel like that. Especially like continuing to say canines. We also never left the house during the day. Unless she was leaving with an umbrella that blocked out UVA rays, she couldn't stay under the sun for more than 10 minutes. She claimed that she had a rare disease called lupus and that she could only leave the house at night because the sun gave her rashes. Because of this disease, there are people
- [45:11]
B
who are allergic to the sun.
- [45:12]
A
Yes. I recall one time she left the house during night and came back early morning. And I guess the sun rose sooner than she had anticipated and parts of her skin were almost raw. And I looked up lupus rashes after this, and they did not look like this rash at all. The best I could describe it was that they were red and raw, like. But she also became very weak if she didn't go out at night for too long.
- [45:36]
B
What?
- [45:37]
A
At first I thought maybe she was just drained and weak because she barely ate. Like, sometimes she'd eat one meal a day, other times she wouldn't eat at all.
- [45:44]
B
What were these meals that she was eating?
- [45:46]
A
Yeah, right. Half of an almond. Half of an almond. But I realized after a night out that she had full energy again. I sound insane typing this, and I feel insane, but I really believe that she was feeding off of other people and animals. One time, she'd returned with blood on her, but she claimed that it was from a bar fight that she'd gotten into.
- [46:07]
B
I love that. Also, this user's never going out at night with her.
- [46:10]
A
Yeah. Like, she's just disappearing.
- [46:12]
B
She's like, see you later, girls night. Yeah. And her version of girls night is just getting like, bar fights.
- [46:19]
A
Bar fights and bloody. Another thing about her that was something I never understood was the fact that her bruises, cuts, and that raw rash were typically always healed about the next day after a night out. Also, one thing I noticed, but I'm not really sure if it had any correlation, is that before she went out, she would be really, really pale, but when she'd come back home, she would always be a shade or two darker. I probably am crazy. Maybe there's some logical reason to it all, but I'm starting to think she was a vampire.
- [46:49]
B
Well, I'm also really. I have a lot of questions about your relationship because this user said it was a situationship, but yet she's Coming home to their house.
- [46:59]
A
Like, maybe it's roommates hooking up.
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B
Yeah, she's definitely.
- [47:02]
A
Or it's just like, the late night booty call.
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B
Yeah.
- [47:05]
A
I don't know, because even in a situationship, you're like, do you want to go to happy hour and get tacos?
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B
And Mark, she does not want to go to happy hour and get tacos. And Mark, she's like, I'll see you as the sun sets. Or when it dawn has come, I will be back in the home.
- [47:19]
A
But the fact that also this person, like, the. The slightest, like, nick of her canine teeth on their skin just immediately draws blood.
- [47:27]
B
That is also wild. You know what really creeps me out are the people who file their teeth down to, like, the sharp nubs. Oh.
- [47:34]
A
Oh, the whole. Yeah, the whole, like, shark teeth.
- [47:37]
B
Basically. Scary.
- [47:38]
A
Yes.
- [47:39]
B
Okay, I found one other vampire story, and I actually found this on TikTok from if's Ghost Talk, and it's vampires plus New Orleans. New Orleans. I almost said New Orleans. New Orleans.
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A
Nola.
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B
Nola. They go hand in hand. Okay, so this story is about a girl named Kate. Kate was in New Orleans on a business trip, and apparently she wasn't, like, a hotel person. She was like, I'm gonna book an Airbnb be.
- [48:01]
A
Yeah.
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B
She finds one near the French Quarter. Looks great, totally fine. Checks in, everything's beautiful. But the host had left a note, and the note's, like, very normal up until the last line, which says, do not open the door after midnight, which is so creepy.
- [48:17]
A
And also, you're in New Orleans. Like, there's so much nightlife.
- [48:20]
B
Right? Like, does that mean she also can't go outside after? Like, does she have to be. Is it a curfew? Like, be home.
- [48:25]
A
And if you're not, ho. But that is. Can you not go back?
- [48:28]
B
Right? So Kate reads this, and she's like, oh, it's probably just the host being funny and playing into, like, the whole New Orleans lore and legends. Like, I'm not gonna take it very seriously. Then one night during her stay, at 12:45 in the morning, there is a knock on her door. She looks through the peephole, and she sees a man who apparently, like, seems totally fine. He's, like, dressed normally, but he does have these, like, really striking eyes. And this man is like, hey, I'm so sorry. I left my phone inside. And she's like, oh, like, I didn't see a phone. That's weird. But she assumes that maybe he stayed at the Airbnb previously.
- [49:03]
A
But then, like, if he was a guest at an Airbnb, you would assume that he. When he left. He's leaving town.
- [49:09]
B
Sure. Unless he's doing a staycation or he came back because he left his phone. Who knows?
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A
I don't know. The warning plus that, immediately.
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B
Right. But it's also late at night. Like, you're not. Especially if you don't heed that warning on the note. Seriously, like, you're not really thinking about it. She does think, like, oh, that's weird. And the guy says, you don't even have to let me in. I'll tell you where it is. And then he mumbled something that she couldn't quite hear. And because the whole situation was weird, she was just like. She opens the door and he goes. The man smiles, winks at her and says, thank you. That's all I needed. And he turns and leaves.
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A
What? He's gonna come back and feed on her later when she's asleep.
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B
The next morning, she's taking a shower, and when she gets out, she. Like, the bathroom mirror is all fogged up, except for there's a word written on the foggy mirror, and it's like, as if it was drawn with a finger. It says invited. So she calls the host.
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A
Wait, I just. I do have to say, if you're gonna have an encounter with a vampire, this does seem like a good one where you're not, like, conscious of the attack.
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B
Sure. She was asleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she calls the host, and the first thing the host does is not try to, like, walk it back or anything. The first thing the host says is, did you open the door after midnight? And Kate is like, well, like, I mean, yeah, but this guy came.
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A
This should be the Airbnb listing. Like, this is a series targeted location from the Nolan vampires.
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B
Right? The host hangs up on her. Who knows what? Like, I don't know. But that night, Kate's staying again. She's in bed.
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A
It's the host's ex, because she used to date this vampire she knows.
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B
A vampire?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Or maybe they're in cahoots. And this is the whole thing.
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A
It's a ruse?
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B
Yes. Sometime after midnight. Now, this is like the night after she had invited him in by accident. She hears three soft knocks on the window, and then she starts to see shadows moving in the apartment or the Airbnb. And she thought she saw that same man standing outside, but when she went to look further, he was gone. So the next morning, she packed up and left.
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A
Oh, my God, this is so scary.
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B
But also, it defies Everything that we think we know about vampires. Because I thought you had to literally invite them in, not just open the door.
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A
It's like a Black Eyed Kid thing, right?
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B
Just like any opening, just the gesture
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A
of it, the intent of conversating, more of like opening up connection.
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B
I literally thought it was like, you are welcome inside. Like Vampire Diaries and they can cross the threshold, but then you can uninvite them and then they get flown out
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A
of your house and are there rules for public spaces or is it just a free for all?
- [51:52]
B
Well, in Vampire Diaries I think there are rules about public spaces where they are more free for all. Did you watch Sinners?
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A
I guess the answer is yes and no. No, I did not watch Sinners, but yes, sin.
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B
Watching it on TikTok does not count.
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A
So many clips on TikTok.
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B
Watching clips on TikTok is not watching a movie.
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A
But that's why I said yes and no, because no, I did not watch the movie. But yes, I know all the spoilers and things that happened.
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B
Okay, but you haven't watched it, so you don't know that you know all the spoilers.
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A
I guess I doubt I loved that movie. I probably watched more minutes of clips than it would have taken me to watch the movie. But it's on my list. I really want. I love the cast.
- [52:33]
B
Great cast. But yeah, those are some vampire stories from history and also from the Internet, which love vampires as much. That scared me.
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A
Oh my God. Spooky.
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B
The vampires are here. They were invited. All of a sudden this TV starts to fog and the word invited just starts to.
- [52:53]
A
For anyone listening, there's just paper above some of the lightings in the studio to diffuse the light. And it just untaped and made the noise.
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B
Or was it Sven? Because we did bring Sven here and we are recording in Salem.
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A
Yes, we are.
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B
Which is a very haunted place.
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A
Oh my gosh, the vampire cult. They know we're talking about them.
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B
They don't live in Salem, but they've visited Salem.
- [53:15]
A
Oh, they travel together.
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B
Oh yeah. Father Sebastian, he doesn't live in Salem.
- [53:19]
A
I thought there were just followers all over.
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B
I do think there are followers everywhere.
- [53:24]
A
Like I assumed people still in Salem attended.
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B
Yeah, yeah. He travels around the world and has vampire balls. And people like you and I could go to the vampire ball. Yes, but we won't. I won't. You can. I will not.
- [53:38]
A
No, I'm too tired.
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B
See, this is the thing is if I want a vampire interaction, I want to same with aliens. Like I want to curate the type of Alien. I'm encountering the type of vampire I'm encountering. Like, I want Damon Salvatore, but I don't want Father Sebastian.
- [53:55]
A
I think that no vampires have approached me respectfully, like, out of maybe respect. And I'm gonna do the same to them. We can both coexist peacefully on this earth without bothering each other.
- [54:08]
B
Okay. What if I become a vampire? Will you invite me into your home?
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A
Well, what kind of vampire are you?
- [54:12]
B
I'll still be like, my personal. As if I know.
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A
I will still love these three things.
- [54:18]
B
I'll still be my personality. But, yeah, I'll go from being a vegetarian to needing being a cannibal, basically. But it won't eat your blood.
- [54:28]
A
What about those around me?
- [54:29]
B
Well, I won't.
- [54:30]
A
How could you control it?
- [54:31]
B
That's a good question. I'll have to get some training from Edward Cullen.
- [54:34]
A
Yeah. Do I have to have, like, carafes of blood at my house for you?
- [54:38]
B
I'll bring myob. I'll byob.
- [54:40]
A
Okay. I won't be put out. Like, I won't. I'll try to.
- [54:44]
B
Should I tell you if I become a vampire?
- [54:46]
A
Yes. So that I can have the proper things to host you.
- [54:49]
B
Okay. What if I just show up at your door one day and you're like, why aren't you coming in? I'd be like, oh, can you, like, invite me?
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A
Then I shut the door in your face. I don't have my cheese and crackers in my blood out yet.
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B
Cheese and crackers.
- [55:02]
A
Some sex for me. Some sex.
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B
Perfect. So. So consider it. Thank you. So that was part one or part two, however matter. You can listen it in any order and you can check out more on the Crimes of feed, where things get
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A
a little less lore, a little less spooky, historic and cool, and a lot more murderous and recent.
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B
Yes. Where people go past grave digging, past blood rituals and straight into murder.
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A
Which is what we will be exploring on our episode of Crimes of, which comes out May 26th. Just search for crimes of on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also watch it on YouTube. It's on the Crime House channel, which
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B
we'll link all of that in the show notes and we're really excited for that episode and thank you for joining us. If you have any encounters with vampires, I, like, need to hear it, you need to send it to us, please email it to 2girls1ghostpodcastmail.com. You can also join us on Patreon, where we have episodes one week early and ad free, plus bonus episodes every month, plus campfire stories every Tuesday where you can come share your ghost stories with us live. And so much other fun bonus content like Witchclass and Book Club.
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A
Shout out to the PAVE production team who let us use the studio for today's episode.
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B
And thanks to all of you. Oh, and to Jamie. And to Jamie, who we would not be able to do anything without so nope, the podcast Jamie, become a vampire so that you never go anywhere.
- [56:31]
A
How do we tether you permanently to us? Eternal ties.
- [56:35]
B
Yes. All right, well, we love you all
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A
and we will see you on the other side.
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B
Very spooky.
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A
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B
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