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Bailey Sarian
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Unknown
I'm ready.
Bailey Sarian
Okay, we're rolling on everything. Thank you so much for coming in and joining me.
Unknown
Of course. Thank you for having me. I'm really excited.
Bailey Sarian
This feels iconic. I'm like, sitting here, I'm like, God, your makeup is even better in person.
Unknown
Shut up. It's not that good.
Bailey Sarian
It's. It's.
Unknown
I feel like I'm a Monet. Like, when you like, yeah, from far away, I look really good. And then up close, it's like, girl.
Bailey Sarian
No, I hugged you. I'm like, your pores, you have none. Where are they?
Unknown
Really? Thank you. I tried really hard. What primer did you use today? I used milk makeup. They came out with, you know, their hydro grip.
Bailey Sarian
I have the grip. Yeah, yeah.
Unknown
So they have a bronzing one that I'm kind of obsessed with you. Just put it all over your face before your foundation and you look flawless. I'm obsessed with it.
Bailey Sarian
Add to cart.
Unknown
I know because some more just had that sale so I wasn't going to pay full price.
Bailey Sarian
No, no.
Unknown
So I was waiting for the sale and then I got it.
Bailey Sarian
I love that. Well, if you haven't recognized her amazing voice and beautiful face yet. Today we are joined by Bailey Sarian. Hi. But I am so excited to have you. I have been watching your videos for a while now and I just watched your recent one about the lady who had Otto in the attic for 10 years.
Unknown
For 10 years she had a quote unquote sex slave in her attic.
Bailey Sarian
I was losing my mind.
Unknown
Me too.
Bailey Sarian
And it just kept getting worse and worse and I'm like, and you have Otto up there still and you got a new guy. I'm like, what, what is this?
Unknown
I know. I felt so bad because the guy like she never let the guy out of the basement. And then he, in court, he was like, well, I wanted to be in the basement. And I was like, did, did you though? Like, what's going on?
Bailey Sarian
He got like psychologically.
Unknown
Uhuh. And then he was given the nickname Bat Boy because he, he lived in the attic.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
And he would only come down to clean the house, cook, and then have sex and then he would go back in the attic and honestly, like on a bad combo but with consenting. Yeah, if both parties are consenting, I would. That's a dream relationship. Honestly.
Bailey Sarian
The link for that one will be in the description, you guys, because it's, it's so good. But you have such amazing content and I'm, I'm really excited for these stories today and to get your takes on them. The theme I have working on the title guys, we'll see what it is when it, when it comes out. But it's like, can they make up? Is there any chance of making up here? Because you know, makeup, you know, we got some makeup, we got some true crime.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
We got some crazy relationship stuff that we'll see if they can make up.
Unknown
I love that connection. That's good.
Bailey Sarian
It's going to be a fun one. Okay, let's dive in. Okay. This first one, if you went to our LA live show, it might sound a little familiar, but I'm like, it's, it's so good. I can't keep it in the vault forever. So it's coming from Am I the. A month old titled Am I the for continuing to wear Makeup and dress in my normal style around a friend who thinks her husband has a crush on me. My 29 female friend, 31 female, has told me that her husband, 35 male, has a crush on me and has recently told her that he fantasizes over me. This already makes me feel very awkward. But now she asked me if I can stop wearing makeup and wear baggy clothes around him. We went out for dinner last night at a reasonably expensive restaurant with a few others, seven of us in total. And she texted me when I got home saying she was angry at me for, quote, looking hot after she asked me not to wear makeup. She's my friend and I want to do the right thing, but there's nothing I could wear that is baggy that would have suited the restaurant we were in. Michelin Star. My style is very conservative and I wear a very average dress with heels. I've written out several responses ranging from an apology to being quite rude. But I wanted to sense. Check my thoughts here before I go back to her. I don't want to make life difficult for her, but what she's asking for feels unreasonable. Am I the asshole?
Unknown
She's not the asshole. No. That's so uncomfortable. That's very uncomfortable. I feel bad for her.
Bailey Sarian
My skin crawls.
Unknown
Why is your skin crawl?
Bailey Sarian
Just like, can you imagine your partner going to you and saying, your friend, I have fantasies about her. I'm like, that's an inside thought.
Unknown
I know. That's a diary. Get a diary, honey.
Bailey Sarian
That's not something you share. It's like, are you trying to, like, are you trying to bring my self esteem down to like, Right. Like what. What's the purpose behind that comment?
Unknown
I'm not sure. I don't like it. That's uncomfortable.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, I'd be.
Unknown
I'd be pissed off.
Bailey Sarian
I'd be so pissed.
Unknown
But I wouldn't be mad at the front.
Bailey Sarian
No.
Unknown
And I would not ask the friend to change her appearance or anything about her. Like, she's your friend for a reason. I would not ask my friend to change anything about herself. That's. Your husband needs to be in check or your partner.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. It's so odd. And I'm like, I get being in like a bad relationship where it's like you feel like the only person you could control is your friend versus the husband. But like you said, it's not your friend's problem.
Unknown
Like, no.
Bailey Sarian
Get your husband in check.
Unknown
Get your husband in check. What's he doing? That's so conversation. I think they need to sit down and talk about. Not the friend, the girl and her husband.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And kind of figure out, like, is there something missing? Are you feeling a certain way? Do you want to be with her? Because if you do, go ahead. Like, we don't have to be together.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
You know, like, that's between them. It's.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Leave the friend out of it. Oh, my God. But if I was the friend and my friend had asked me to, like, change how I. My makeup, my hair, my outfits, I'd probably just cool it and just not go around as much. It's kind of just weird.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable going over to her place anymore.
Unknown
Right.
Bailey Sarian
Especially if he's going to be there.
Unknown
Right. It'd just be weird.
Bailey Sarian
There's no way.
Unknown
No.
Bailey Sarian
No way. Top comment on this one. Total not the asshole. For one thing, I don't think it's possible to dress appropriately for a nice restaurant without looking hot to someone who already finds you attractive. And more generally, as long as you're not hitting on the husband or intentionally dressing provocatively to catch his attention, which it sounds like you're not, then this is a her problem, not a you problem. Here's another point. Why on earth did she tell you that her husband has the hots for you? Completely inappropriate. That's something to be handled within the marriage.
Unknown
Agree.
Bailey Sarian
As you said.
Unknown
Yeah. Super awkward. Like putting your friend in a really weird position. Hey, my. My husband thinks you're hot. Okay. All right. Thanks. I don't know what to say to that. Unless, like, they're trying to have a threesome or something, but. I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
Really odd.
Unknown
I guess she just wants her friend to be like, a Little House on the Prairie or something.
Bailey Sarian
Like, what is she supposed to wear?
Unknown
Like, I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
What do you want her in a trash bag? Come on.
Unknown
Because that's even. That shows a little leg.
Bailey Sarian
Oh.
Unknown
So you have to do something that's fully covered, like two braids, and then pin them up. No makeup. Churn in some butter. Usually that.
Bailey Sarian
Yep.
Unknown
He might not want her then.
Bailey Sarian
Honestly, I could see a bonnet coming into play because he can't. Can't show that either.
Unknown
Yeah. So she should have wore that to the dinner.
Bailey Sarian
Shut up. That would have been way more respectful.
Unknown
Yeah. What a.
Bailey Sarian
Op response to that. Top comment. Thank you for your response. Added a not safer work because of the fantasy bit, but then chose not to elaborate on that part. So I've removed it now. I'm not sure why she told me either. The first time she Said it was cute that he had a crush on me. And then she started getting a bit more detailed about it.
Unknown
Ew. Maybe it was some kind of proposition, like, hey, like, to see how she, how she felt about her husband fantasizing about her. To see, like, are you interested?
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, because like, if you start with a crush, like, oh, he's got a crush on you. And like, there's no mention of this person having a boyfriend or like, whatever, like no relationship. So it's like maybe she was trying to broach it and now that it wasn't reciprocated is now like, it's just weird. Well, now we got to shut this down.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Like, we can't engage. We can't encourage this crush.
Unknown
Maybe just an idea, just a thought. Or the friend is just really insecure. The woman.
Bailey Sarian
I could see that.
Unknown
Yeah. There's so many ways it could go.
Bailey Sarian
Well, we do have an edit.
Unknown
Oh yeah.
Bailey Sarian
We get a little bit more detail.
Unknown
I love it.
Bailey Sarian
Thank you so much for all your responses. It's 4:21am here in the UK so I will write out and send response tomorrow and we'll update you all on here. Sorry I can't respond everyone. I didn't expect so many responses. Edit 2 while I was reading your response, he just liked an old Instagram picture from way back. A bikini picture.
Unknown
The friend.
Bailey Sarian
The friend's husband. Oh God, he is now blocked. Final update edit 3. I responded with the following to my friend, quote, sorry it's taken me a while to reply, but I wanted to consider this properly and not react emotionally. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I don't think it's fair or reasonable to ask me to change how I look because of your husband. My advice is to speak to husband's name and work on your relationship because projecting your issues onto me isn't going to help you, but it will damage our friendship. You have nothing to be insecure about. You're the most beautiful person inside and out that I've ever met. I'm here for you if you want to talk through it. But ultimately I can't help it if I'm smoking hot. Just kidding. Xxx oh my God.
Unknown
Okay, that was a very adult great respons.
Bailey Sarian
I love that I need to like capture some of this, like, calm.
Unknown
It's calm, mature, kind. It's mature. It's kind. It's like, hey, this isn't me, this is you. Yeah, without being a bitch. That was really good.
Bailey Sarian
I take notes, everyone take notes.
Unknown
That's how you do it.
Bailey Sarian
Five minutes after I press send, she knocked on my door.
Unknown
Shut up.
Bailey Sarian
She was already on her way. Showed up with a bunch of flowers and cried and gave me a hug. While apologizing, she told me they were having problems and it was wrong of her to take it out on me. We had a long chat, and I'm going to be there to support my friend. Thank you all for your input. You all helped so much. Additional info. I've had a lot of people messaging me, asking if they can post my story elsewhere, and a couple of reporters even.
Unknown
Really?
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. Wild happy ending, though.
Unknown
Very nice ending. I'm glad the friendship didn't fall apart, because men come and go, relationships come and go, friendships. Hopefully they can stay for a long time, you know, you hope.
Bailey Sarian
And I think that's why, like, friendship breakups, I really think they do hurt sometimes. Oftentimes worse than relationship ending. Like, friendships just going to shit is like. It's so much stress.
Unknown
It's so sad.
Bailey Sarian
It really is.
Unknown
It's like a chapter of your life just close. It is like a breakup.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Chapter of your life closing. And this person that knew everything about you, now they're just a stranger.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
It's so sad, but I'm glad it wasn't like that for them.
Bailey Sarian
I know. Really good.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Everyone's like, wait, when's the other shoe gonna drop?
Unknown
I know.
Bailey Sarian
I'm like, it feels, like, too good to be true a little bit. Right, guys?
Unknown
Yeah. I'm sure there'll be an update. Like, me and my husband got a divorce.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. And I will bet it comes. And, like, I don't wish for people's downfall, but I don't think. He sounds like a great. A great guy.
Unknown
He seems like he's looking. He's wandering.
Bailey Sarian
His head's turning to go, like, her bikini picture.
Unknown
Yeah, that's creepy.
Bailey Sarian
He's trying to, like, plant little seeds and then slide into the DMS and hope he has a target that's not going to tell his wife.
Unknown
Yeah, Slimy. He can't do that with a best friend, dude.
Bailey Sarian
Ew.
Unknown
Super gross.
Bailey Sarian
Ew. This next one is coming from Am I the Asshole? It is titled, Am I the Asshole For Telling my Brother that he and his wife's Halloween costumes were tasteless. My brother, 26, male, is super in a true crime. His wife, 24, female, humors him. This Halloween, although they couldn't host a proper party, they dressed up as Charles Manson and Sharon Tate. I told him ahead of time it would be tasteless and he said they're just costumes. I ignored all of his posts during Halloween. I can't explain why, but it really, really bothered me. Like, probably more than it should have. I just don't think Sharon Tate should be remembered for the way she died. Anyways, his wife is pregnant, which is part of the reason why they did the costume in the first place. She's also blonde. He posted a photo of her with a nosebleed and said, channeling Sharon Tate energy. And I commented on the post that he should really back the fuck off of Sharon Tate. At this point, he replied, saying, I'm no fun, and told me to delete my comment. He's saying it's disgusting that I tried to humiliate him over someone who's dead and that I don't even know. He says he can see where it's offensive, but Sharon Tate won't ever see it, and I should stop making such a big deal, even if I think it's wrong. He says my comment was inappropriate.
Unknown
The comment.
Bailey Sarian
Am I the asshole?
Unknown
The comment was inappropriate.
Bailey Sarian
That comment, so inappropriate. Back the fuck off.
Unknown
Yeah. Geez.
Bailey Sarian
You did this to yourself, my dude.
Unknown
Mm. Mm. That one's hard. Because obviously, I'm in the true crime world, and I've come across people who dress up as serial killers all the time. Like, I see that a lot. I personally wouldn't want to do it. I don't really. Yeah, I don't feel like it's. It's right. But everyone is allowed to make their own decisions, you know?
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
So it's, like, tricky. I don't know. Like, if my partner wanted to do that, I would shoot it down. This one's hard for me personally, because I get it, but at the same time, I wouldn't do that. But if someone close to me did it, I'd be like, ooh, okay. All right.
Bailey Sarian
Do you think, like, there's a difference? Cause, like, I think a lot of people do dress up as killers. I mean, you see it a lot, too, depending on, like, the Netflix cycle and what's out. Like, I feel like when that Bundy show came out, a lot of people dressed up as Bundy. Like, it was a big thing. But I'm wondering here if it's, like, it's not so much the serial killer that's the issue, but then the victim bringing the victim into it and dressing up as, like, a couple costume with the victim as the wife is also pregnant, which is just like.
Unknown
There's just so many other pregnancy, like, costumes you could do there's so many others. There's just so many other ways this could have went.
Bailey Sarian
Why?
Unknown
Maybe they're just morbid people. Like, does it make sense? Are they very dark, morbid people and, okay, it makes sense for them, or is it just, like, out of left field? They go to church every Sunday and you're like, what the fuck?
Bailey Sarian
Like, wouldn't have seen this one coming.
Unknown
Yeah. What? So I don't know. I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
I know it's really, really odd. And, like, I love true crime. Like, I am big into the podcast and all the YouTube stuff, but it's.
Unknown
Like, not the victim. Not the victim, not the victim.
Bailey Sarian
Like, her whole story is so sad and, like, I don't even know a lot about it. I know you did do a video on Sharon, and so I am a little uneducated in that, but it's like, I feel like, especially like, posting a photo with the nosebleed. Like, there's so many better ways you could have gone about this costume.
Unknown
Is there a picture linked? I'm so curious to see if there's a picture of the costume.
Bailey Sarian
I wonder.
Unknown
It depends, like, how gory they went with the Sharon Tate outfit. Like, if she was just pretty Sharon Tate, like, that'd be a really pretty costume. But if she added a bunch of blood and, like, gashes, like, no.
Bailey Sarian
Starting to get distasteful.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
No picture. Okay, that's no picture. Top comment. Not the. In my opinion, this is making light of a murder victim very tasteless indeed to anyone saying she's dead and this happened a long time ago. How would you feel if your family member was murdered and then someone dressed up as them and the person who murdered them? My guess is furious, livid, disgusted, et cetera. And I get the killer. Like, people dress up as Bonnie and Clyde all the time. Like, they. They went on a rampage.
Unknown
They do. Like, I'm trying to think of, like.
Bailey Sarian
Other costumes you've seen.
Unknown
No, I'm trying to think of, like, because to me, obviously, dark, morbid person, I think dressing up as the victims. Yeah. Not cool. I'm trying to think if there's, like, one specifically that's standing out, but they're ladies. And I think that that's probably Sharon Tate's pretty bad because usually everyone dresses up as the killer. Yeah, I think that kind of makes sense. And even, like, I don't know what we're doing.
Bailey Sarian
Movie killers. Like, I. I got a lot of trick or treaters this year. It was, like, the highlight of my year, but I Saw a lot of Chucky's. A lot of. I don't remember the mask guy. Freddie. Jason.
Unknown
Jason.
Bailey Sarian
Both of them have masks. Maybe Freddie.
Unknown
Well, no, he has, like, the hands.
Bailey Sarian
Okay.
Unknown
Jason has a mask.
Bailey Sarian
Okay. I saw a lot of him.
Unknown
Michael Myers has a mask.
Bailey Sarian
Okay. And I saw a lot of the Scream. Like vintage Scream stuff.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
So I'm like that.
Unknown
But those are movies.
Bailey Sarian
Exactly. I'm like, that makes sense.
Unknown
I'm like, those are movies.
Bailey Sarian
I don't know when it starts to get to real people and they're not a hundred years old, but I saw something recently where people were dressing up as, like, Titanic victims.
Unknown
Okay. Yeah, that's kind of. Well, okay. This is. It's funny you say this because I was just having a conversation about the Titanic museum, and there was this one where I used to live that would have a blow. You know, those like, blow up, jumpy things.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
Unknown
So it would have a blow up, jumpy thing, but it was shaped as the Titanic, like, sinking. So what, you would go to the top and you slide down like your. Your like.
Bailey Sarian
No.
Unknown
Yes. Like the Titanic was sinking and you slide down. Oh, it was 100% real. And I was like, you know, I just don't know if that's the way.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. This one, right? Yes.
Unknown
It's very fucked up. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, there's kids going down it, yelling and screaming and like, yay. And it's like, you know, is it too soon? I don't think it's too soon. It's just like, still a hundred years later, this historic event that happened where a lot of people died. If we're recreating it or like that, you know, it's that part.
Bailey Sarian
Well. And it's like, okay, put it into perspective of like another huge tragedy. Like, would you see a 911 bounce house?
Unknown
I. I mean, maybe in like 20 years. But for now, like, if we did, it would be not well received.
Bailey Sarian
No, it'd be awesome sight.
Unknown
Yeah. So whenever I would see that Titanic thing, it was just like, ooh, ooh. Mixed. Mixed feelings.
Bailey Sarian
Mixed feelings indeed.
Unknown
Kind of want to go down it?
Bailey Sarian
Try it once.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
And then.
Unknown
And then I'll judge. I just want to see what it was like.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, we had someone. It's a Reddit story from ages ago, but they had a Titanic themed wedding.
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
Bailey Sarian
It was a confusing theme.
Unknown
Did everyone die at the end?
Bailey Sarian
No elaboration on the theme from what I remember. But there was some issue. The fiance was like, my partner wants this theme and I'm uncomfortable and I don't know if they went through with it. I don't know if we ever got an update, guys.
Unknown
I don't know if that. I wouldn't label it Titanic thing. Maybe it's what was that era golden? It was the Gilded Age.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
So it's like Gilded Age theme.
Bailey Sarian
That would be a great theme, right?
Unknown
Not Titanic theme. I know that's kind of weird, but live your life, I guess.
Bailey Sarian
Teach their own, you know. Oh, okay.
Unknown
I love the theme.
Bailey Sarian
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Unknown
Really?
Bailey Sarian
I don't know if you're going to love it. So this next one is coming from Aita, another form of Am I the Asshole? Basically, it's two months old, titled Am I the Asshole for Hating my wife's Creepy Project.
Unknown
Hmm.
Bailey Sarian
Okay, this sounds insane, but I swear my wife is a totally normal person otherwise, which makes this so strange to me. For context, we're both in our late 30s and live in a pretty typical suburban neighborhood where we all know each other. My wife has always loved trashy movies and shows about infidelities, and she eats up true crime about spouses killing their cheating partners too. She just says something about it makes her morbidly fascinated in her own words. Well, a couple of months back we had a scandal in our neighborhood where a married couple in the neighborhood divorced because the husband cheated. No, there wasn't a murder or anything like that, but she became obsessed with learning every detail from every neighbor. No matter the occasion, be it a baby shower or cookout. She would bring it up hoping there would be some new information. A month later is when I stumbled upon the board in her home office. I was doing some cleaning and I found a massive bulletin board facing away, leaned up against the wall. Curiosity got the better of me and I turned it around to find a literal fucking conspiracy board of all of our neighbors. Pictures with lines of yarn connecting each other like the fucking Pepe Sylvia meme.
Unknown
I love her.
Bailey Sarian
I was totally confused and asked where this was and she told me it was a hobby she had started recently where she would track rumors or likely candidates for the cheating board.
Unknown
I love it.
Bailey Sarian
The yarn represented who was possibly cheating with whom. She had clearly gotten all of the images on Facebook or some social media and printed them out and even had a few sticky notes with details. I told her this was creepy and insane and she said maybe if I was doing it as a man, but she is just having harmless fun as a hobby and she wouldn't be crazy and try to oust anyone based on these rumors. She just likes feeling like a detective. She told me to view it like a creative art piece. I was still super weirded out but I let it go. Or tried to. I thought about it a lot. Well, every now and then I admit to checking the board while cleaning, but just a couple of days ago I looked to see that now I was on the board with a piece of yarn attached to a neighbor's wife that I am casual friends with. I asked her why she would add me if she thought I was cheating and she said that was a different yarn color for potential matches for cheating. She said if it makes me feel better she was planning on adding herself to the board soon. Well, I got pissed and kind of lost my temper about it. I told her to get rid of the board or our marriage will be in trouble. Things have been super rocky since. Sorry for the long post. I'm starting to feel bad and it hit me more than usual this morning. Should I apologize to her? And before you ask, no, I don't suspect her of cheating. Honestly, I wish she was because it would at least make more sense than this. Am I the.
Unknown
That'S a hard one this is quite the hobby, I don't think. I don't think he's the only. Because he's concerned, and he's bringing it up to his wife.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
As you should.
Bailey Sarian
I think you're allowed to say how you're feeling. Oh, totally.
Unknown
Like, this is a little weird.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
But, like, creeped out. Yeah. As someone who is. I'm not nosy, but I do like to investigate.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, I'm nosy.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
I'm so nosy.
Unknown
And if she's living in the suburbs, I don't blame her. Like, there's nothing to do.
Bailey Sarian
No.
Unknown
So you start watching your neighbors, and you get to know them, and then you start creating, I don't know, a little database.
Bailey Sarian
I watch my neighbors now. I. I feel like I don't blame her. I'm like, what are they doing down there? He's got that sign in his yard. The other neighbor across the street did a big banner for retaliation. They're at war. He put a camera on the street side now.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
My neighborhood is, like, filled to the brim with tea like this. I get it completely.
Unknown
Me too.
Bailey Sarian
Would I make the board? I don't know.
Unknown
Would you?
Bailey Sarian
Would you make the board?
Unknown
I would make the board. Only because I'm psycho like that. I'm a very visual person, so I need to see everything. But I feel like, look, they should compromise. She can still have her hobby and have her little detective work done, but instead of a board, maybe put it into a notebook, write down everyone's name, and just keep it more private. It doesn't need to be displayed out in the house. And get a little. It just like. Yeah, it sounds like something that she's doing for fun and treat it like a little personal diary.
Bailey Sarian
What would happen if a neighbor came over and saw the board?
Unknown
God, how embarrassing.
Bailey Sarian
You'd have to move. You literally have to move or make.
Unknown
Up some weird lie that you're now gonna have to keep up forever about what you're doing and. Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my gosh.
Unknown
So I think the board's a little much. Maybe just, like, copy it into a notebook. But let her keep doing it.
Bailey Sarian
It's keeping.
Unknown
Keeping her busy.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
There's other hobbies, too. She can. Pottery's fun.
Bailey Sarian
Pottery.
Unknown
Pottery is fun.
Bailey Sarian
I want to get into sewing. It's on my list.
Unknown
Sewing. So fun.
Bailey Sarian
It's on my list.
Unknown
Yeah, she could do that.
Bailey Sarian
There's a lot.
Unknown
There's. But I guess my biggest question is, what's her end goal?
Bailey Sarian
That is. Yeah.
Unknown
Like, she's getting all the pieces and stuff. Like, what is she doing with this information?
Bailey Sarian
Well, do you also kind of find it weird where I don't know how he got to this point, but he even kind of said, and before you ask, no, I don't suspect her of cheating. My mind didn't go there. So I'm curious why his went there. And it's like, did he kind of ponder, like, maybe she's making this board to detract, like, to kind of take the heat off her? Like, if there's strings and, oh, you're on the board, babe, to the neighbor that you are friends with and I'll put myself on the board soon. It is interesting where it's like, is this a part of a whole elaborate scheme to maybe hide an affair? Because I didn't go there.
Unknown
I didn't go there either.
Bailey Sarian
I'm like, I'm very surprised he did.
Unknown
Yeah, me too. But I guess maybe he's thinking, like, she's setting this all up. Or maybe he's thinking what other people might be thinking.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Is that she's setting this all up to make sure, like, who knows what, and is it going to get back to her and her husband or something? But I don't think that's the case. Like, if you're having an affair, you're not doing. You're not doing that much.
Bailey Sarian
I feel like you wouldn't make it. So, like a billboard, like, this is a board in your home, like, right. You're going to connect the dots for him.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
To take the heat off.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
So, like, that.
Unknown
I don't think he's having an affair.
Bailey Sarian
That would be another level of gaslighting to, like, literally put your affair on the board with a yarn string connected. That'd be insane.
Unknown
That'd be kind of fun.
Bailey Sarian
That'd be insane. Top comment on this one. I really couldn't see it getting weirder until she mentioned adding herself to the board. This is a strange game your wife's playing. And it seems like an unhealthy obsession with infidelity. Right. This is her way of admitting to cheating. I'm so confused. So other people in the comments are kind of making that she's cheating, I guess. And next comment is, I'm thinking more fantasizing about doing it. If she was actually doing it, she wouldn't need this creepy hobby to keep her occupied. Which is what you said. Like, you're kind of like, if she was having an affair, like, she wouldn't be doing all of this.
Unknown
You wouldn't Be doing that. And you would get a diary. You wouldn't make a big, like, you just had billboard in the house of like your affair. Yeah, I don't think she's having an affair. I think she's bored. I really think she's bored and she found something, like, exciting going on. Yeah, everyone's having an affairs and there's probably like little lies and little stories and she's just piecing it together.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my God.
Unknown
If anything, she should write some kind of gossip blog.
Bailey Sarian
A book. A book, A book.
Unknown
Something.
Bailey Sarian
A TV show it's giving. Desperate Housewives.
Unknown
Yeah, Suburban Housewives. Like, come on. I love that shit.
Bailey Sarian
It could be so good.
Unknown
It could be really good. So maybe they should he. The partner should nurture it so she could write a book and do something with that information that she's collected.
Bailey Sarian
Could buy you a bigger house in a nicer neighborhood.
Unknown
Or maybe she's gathering blackmail to use against all of her neighbors just in case something happens. Well, because if you got dirt on everyone, then they're not going to rat you out to hoa.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my gosh. I have horror.
Unknown
I have HOA horror stories too.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, I have horror stories.
Unknown
I paid for trauma.
Bailey Sarian
Oh my God. It's insane what people do with HOAs. It's. It's nuts. Fuck HOAs. But we have an update on this one.
Unknown
Oh, okay, great.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
I love this.
Bailey Sarian
I know. Anyways, Jesus Christ. Firstly, appreciate all of the concern and not the assholes. It gave me the courage to approach her and tell her that while I may have overreacted by threatening our marriage, I think it is a creepy thing to do. She apologized and said she would get rid of the board. I thought we were good. Literally. Two days later. Two days later, shit hits the fan. Our happily married next door neighbor finds a woman's bra under the bed that does not belong to her. It doesn't take long for the whole neighborhood to find out. Well, my wife is giddy, like jumping up and down for joy. She shows me the board, which she still didn't trash like she promised. And of course, the husband was marked with yarn, meaning he was likely to cheat. She told me the board was accurate after all, and maybe she should keep her hobby around. I was definitely suspicious. So I looked at the board again later. It looked different from the last time I saw it before the latest scandal. Instead of the yarn connecting to another neighbor, the cheating husband's yarn connected to a post it with a question mark. Firstly, it was the only question mark there. And I swore it wasn't there the last time I saw the board. So either she changed it after the cheating to prove a point or slightly before it happened, which made me even more suspicious. Either way, now I felt like I was the detective and I was going crazy. I went over to the cheating husbands to ask a few questions. The wife was staying at her parents, so it was just the two of us. I asked him if he actually did it and he said no, he would never. Then I asked if my wife had been over recently. He said one day while you were at work, his wife asked her to water a plant they had while they were both away and told her where the key was. So yes, she had been over.
Unknown
Is she planting all of this?
Bailey Sarian
I immediately raised an eyebrow. I asked if he still had the bra and he was getting nervous and told me not to get the wrong idea. I said, don't worry, he still had the bra. And I looked at it. It's his wife's. It was my wife's bra, but one I knew she almost never wore because it was from a lingerie set I bought her one Christmas, and she said it was uncomfortable. I told my neighbor I needed to talk to my wife and ran out, but I told him not to worry. I approached her with the bra and asked her what was going on. She played stupid, but I told her to cut the bs. I asked if she had either cheated on me with him or planted it there. Either way, she was in trouble. She confessed to planting the bra and said it was to make me admit that her hobby was valid or something.
Unknown
Oh, my God, she was dedicated.
Bailey Sarian
I flipped out on her. I said this was worse than her cheating on me because instead of ruining just our marriage, she ruined our neighbors and ours. I demanded she call the wife and admit to everything, even sending pictures of the board. I even showed the Reddit post, which actually helped convince her that my wife had planted it rather than cheating with her husband. Well, they made up, but now I have no idea what to do. I'm barely speaking to my wife, and it is only a matter of time before the entire neighborhood figures this out. I seriously need advice.
Unknown
Yeah, he does.
Bailey Sarian
You gotta move. If he sent pictures of that board to the wife. Oh, no, that revet like that I would spread around. I would post it on the neighbor's app, I would print it and put it on flyers on every telephone pole like we have. We have a problem with this little board making like the revenge is going to come.
Unknown
What is she doing?
Bailey Sarian
Hot.
Unknown
At first, I was supportive of her now I'm very sad for her because I don't know what she's doing.
Bailey Sarian
I don't know.
Unknown
It's like, why would she, why would she plan that? Just to prove a point. But that's going really, really, really far. It's like, girl, was that mental illness?
Bailey Sarian
I'm. I'm so.
Unknown
Is mental illness in the room with us right now?
Bailey Sarian
Like, I don't. I don't know.
Unknown
Because what would. Are you that bored? Are you that bored to ruin other people's lives?
Bailey Sarian
That's where I draw the line.
Unknown
I need more information. How much money do people make each year? Do they have kids? Do they live in the suburbs? Is she just a rich boardhouse wife who wants to shake things up? Or is she like literally just kind of a little psycho?
Bailey Sarian
A screw is loose.
Unknown
Uh huh. And maybe like when they show you a red flag, sometimes you're. It's a.
Bailey Sarian
It's a billboard instead.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, it's a billboard. I don't know. But do you jump your whole marriage over that? We just need more information.
Bailey Sarian
I know. I feel like you'd have to go to therapy, individuals therapy for her. Because I do think the board, like, could have been just a fun hobby, but to take it to this level is deranged.
Unknown
Now it's psycho. Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
It's a lot.
Unknown
It's a Lifetime movie in the making.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. And so it's like it could have been. It could have been cool. And like, there's so many people that obviously like are very into true crime and, you know, cheating scandals and all this stuff. But like, I feel like there's a better way to pursue this hobby or get involved and volunteer your time with some organization, you know, maybe interviewing people or doing something. But to take it this far to then like frame someone.
Unknown
Yeah, that's weird.
Bailey Sarian
That's where it's like, it's getting really weird. Like you're kind of inching towards territory where like, you want to try a crime just to see if you can get away with it.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
And there's. There is a true crime like that.
Unknown
That like, there's lots of true crimes like that where they try.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, I feel like it happened recently where it was like a young college kid and he wanted to see if he could get away with murder and just like killed someone.
Unknown
Really?
Bailey Sarian
Maybe it's your. Maybe it's an episode coming soon for you.
Unknown
Yeah, depends which one it might. Are you sure it's the, the Idaho murders?
Bailey Sarian
Not the Brian. The Brian guy?
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Because he was like studying to be a forensic.
Unknown
Yeah, criminology. And like, here's how I would do it.
Bailey Sarian
Did that case end?
Unknown
No, it's happening right now. Yeah, so we'll see. He's creepy looking. If you do a side by side of him and Bundy.
Bailey Sarian
Identical.
Unknown
Identical. Oh, yeah. I'm like googling now psychotic how much they look alike. Same eyes, same nose, same mouth. It's bizarre. Then I went down this rabbit hole about like certain face shapes and features and how they correlate to like, oh.
Bailey Sarian
My God, they look so alike. The eyes and the hollowed, like hollowed, deep socket eyes.
Unknown
Yeah. I was reading about how certain features are shown in serial killers.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Like, it's just a study that's being done, you know. But I found that really interesting because you can see it in that picture where it's like, oh, okay, now show me another killer with those same eyes.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Because they always have the same, like, sunken, crazy eye.
Bailey Sarian
It's so interesting. I just fell down the rabbit hole of that one artist. He's the artist behind, like, ballerinas being Jack the Ripper.
Unknown
What?
Bailey Sarian
Oh, you are going to eat this up.
Unknown
Okay.
Bailey Sarian
I think it's Degas. Degas, yeah. So Edgar Degas. So he had this disease actually, and there's a, there's a whole, I'll send you a TikTok and you're just literally gonna go down the rabbit hole. But it, it starts out as like this woman saying, I think Degas is actually Jack the Ripper. Here's why he would one be obsessed with ballerinas who oftentimes were prostitutes and other, like, jobs that were prostitutes, like wash maidens and stuff like that. And all of Jack the Ripper's victims were women, like, of the night or I'm butchering this. Yes. And so she was like, he never wrote letters, but during the time of these killings, he randomly wrote a letter to someone about a dinner he had. He was antisocial. He didn't write letters. He happened to, like, take random day trips to London to visit a friend and then would disappear. Like, all of these correlations. And then he had this disease where he lost his vision. But another correlation with this disease is the, like, gray matter behind your eyes, like, really decreases. And if you do brain scans of a lot of serial killers, the gray matter behind their eyes, like, doesn't have a lot of activity. And there's so many different correlations and it's just really, really crazy. I love that you're going to. I 100% think it was him really? Yeah, 100%.
Unknown
I wish, I wish we could know for sure. I know it's one of those things we'll. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.
Bailey Sarian
No.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
No, I'm like, there's no DNA at this point now.
Unknown
Like when the women got murdered, they were like hosing down the sidewalks, which is so wild to think of.
Bailey Sarian
Like the times.
Unknown
Yeah. And they were just like, they had nothing to go on. No DNA, fingerprints. Like how did you solve mysteries back then is what I'm impressed.
Bailey Sarian
With some Sherlock Holmes shit.
Unknown
Uh huh. They had a Scooby Doo it.
Bailey Sarian
I would not. I think. Oh God, it's just crazy. And then just the way you got like taken out if you were guilty, like firing squad, hanging crazy. This got real dark.
Unknown
Yeah. I got. Story of my life anyways, that wife.
Bailey Sarian
Anyway, hopefully she's not like that, but yeah, divorce worthy. Like, where do you. Where would you go from there?
Unknown
I don't know. Because at the end of the day, relationships aren't so black and white. Like, has it been a happy, wonderful marriage all the way up until this one point, if that's the case. Right. Has there been weird little things she's gotten into all throughout the marriage and it's just like, okay, this is another weird little thing she's doing, then maybe. Yeah, okay.
Bailey Sarian
You know, like just another ADHD hobby.
Unknown
Yeah. You know, like. Or if like, she's just a weird person and this is just another weird thing and you can't take it anymore, then maybe it's time for you to leave. I don't know. I don't like to tell people what to do, but I think they should listen. Listen to their gut. Their intuition is always correct. I don't know if men have an intuition, though.
Bailey Sarian
I always wonder that because I feel like we as women are trained to listen to our gut way more. I feel like our safety is like you have an experience every day where at least I do. Or I'm also paranoid, but you kind of look over your shoulder a little bit and like, you have to be more on edge. Walking at night is a little scary. I don't think a lot of guys have that same gut instinct or like fear. I don't know.
Unknown
I don't know either.
Bailey Sarian
I'm curious. We should put a poll.
Unknown
Yeah. Do you have intuition, let us know? I'm sure they do in different ways.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
I mean, he had a hunch about this. He, he, he got paranoid. He's like, he Heard this cheating scandal pop up. And he. He knew. He goes, something's fishy here.
Unknown
So something is fishy now that she planted that, maybe.
Bailey Sarian
So what if she didn't actually plant it?
Unknown
But didn't she say she did?
Bailey Sarian
What if she's lying?
Unknown
Why would she lie? She's having an affair.
Bailey Sarian
What if she's lying? I don't. I don't know. I'm like, this lady is on. She's a little unhinged.
Unknown
She's look for us.
Bailey Sarian
What if they were actually sleeping together and now he just got the wife to take him back? Oh, I lied.
Unknown
Mm, mm, mm.
Bailey Sarian
The board, the whole board was a scheme.
Unknown
I feel like she would have said something. Someone would have cracked. Right?
Bailey Sarian
I. I personally would have cracked. I can't. I don't have a poker face.
Unknown
Me neither.
Bailey Sarian
I would have cracked.
Unknown
Me too. I think she had something against that neighbor. Maybe she wanted the husband so she broke him up.
Bailey Sarian
She's playing the long game. She's playing the long game.
Unknown
She could be there for him when he sat shoulder cry on.
Bailey Sarian
Don't worry.
Unknown
Also, maybe she was doing that, but it doesn't make sense with the whole board of it all.
Bailey Sarian
No, it's too obvious then.
Unknown
So I don't know. Get her on the line. Let's ask her what she's doing.
Bailey Sarian
Pull it up. Top comment on this one. I honestly refuse to believe this is real. Your wife is actually nuts. This is insane behavior to have. Next comment. I was thinking just the opposite. This one is so original, it's got to be real. No AI is going to come up with this insanity that's left to humans.
Unknown
Yeah, it's true.
Bailey Sarian
Have you had any, like, true crime things come up on your channel where you've had elaborate cover ups like this? Like, hiding a bra. Hiding a bra or just like, the weird map or like, what. Like, what's the craziest thing you've seen someone do to erase their tracks?
Unknown
I feel like women are usually the ones who do crazy stuff, right? So there was this one story I did about this lady. She was, like, considered the original catfish. This is when AOL first came out and she was going into those chat rooms and, like, catfishing people, telling them she had lots of money, she was going to take care of them. She was still married, but she had, like, three different boyfriends in. One was in Reno, one was in some other state, whatever. And she had, like, a list or a chart and, like, who she was in that relationship type of thing. Like a whole dictionary of, like, this is what I told him. This is. She would reference it.
Bailey Sarian
My God.
Unknown
And then eventually one of the boyfriends, she had told him that she was in an abusive marriage and she couldn't be with him because her husband was going to kill her or whatever.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
So then the side boyfriend decided, well, I'm gonna kill him. So he like drove hundreds of miles, went killed the husband because he thought she was in an abusive marriage and everything just came falling apart. She wasn't in an abusive marriage. This guy was just like. He had no idea his wife had all these girlfriends. He just thought she was on aol trying to like look up antique doll stuff because it was new, the Internet, you know. So he was just like, oh, I thought she was just doing like anti doll stuff. Oh, this poor man.
Bailey Sarian
And then actually got. He actually got killed.
Unknown
He got killed. Oh yeah, he got killed because this lady just wanted attention. Creating all these stories. Sorry, I keep hitting the mic. She was creating all these stories and then it blew up in her face. So, you know, maybe going back to that previous story, it's like, why would she create this chart and all that? I guess this is kind of a perfect example of. Yeah, maybe she was doing that. Creating a chart that she could follow and like, I don't know. I don't know. Women. Lady. Lady killers or. We're a little crazy.
Bailey Sarian
I'm just, I'm sitting here. I need. I need a minute.
Unknown
We're a little crazy. We like to take notes. We're visual people.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Guy killers just kill.
Bailey Sarian
So crazy.
Unknown
We make charts.
Bailey Sarian
Pie chart. Okay, one thing I haven't done is look and see if there's any comments from op. We have an update. A final update.
Unknown
We have a final update on this guy.
Bailey Sarian
It was posted four hours ago. Oh, four hours ago now. Oh God.
Unknown
When was it originally Posted?
Bailey Sarian
Originally posted 2 months ago.
Unknown
Oh wow. So things really played out quickly.
Bailey Sarian
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Unknown
Mental illness is in the room. You called it.
Bailey Sarian
You called it. I'm so scared.
Unknown
Good for her. Let her make those charts in her facility.
Bailey Sarian
I think we're good here folks. Bye. After what happened previously, I did not speak to my wife for a while. I tried to stay working or out of the house as often as I could. Well, a few weeks passed and time made it seem like less and less of a big deal. Finally, my wife offered to take me out to a very nice restaurant and make things up to me. She told me everything was behind her and while I was avoiding her, she had actually started online therapy to get help and realized now that what she did was wrong. I really believed her and we had a great night. One thing led to another and yeah, lol. I took about two days after that for her to get a pregnancy test and she texted me the positive result. Yeah, I know some of you already think I'm a moron, but it had been a rough year and this made me really happy. I started getting very excited. We started talking about turning my home office to a baby room, looking up ways to prepare, book appointments, planning a shower, et cetera. A really fun but whirlwind week. Unfortunately. She told me the first ultrasound was at a time I had to be at work and she would have to go alone. Really bummed me out and I asked her to reschedule but she said it was the only availability. Well, that next week she went and I was waiting for an update, a picture, anything. Nothing. She came home and was super quiet and I flipped out and got super worried that the worst has happened. I told Her. I understood she was probably in a lot of pain and something, but she told me she had to tell me something. She finally admitted no, she wasn't dealing with losing the baby, but she was actually pregnant for longer than she thought. Longer than the last time we did it.
Unknown
Oh.
Bailey Sarian
She actually got pregnant during the time I was avoiding her.
Unknown
What do we think? The neighbor? How are we going back to the neighbor.
Bailey Sarian
Ma'am? Obviously I was so mad and upset. I couldn't understand why she would do this to me. But then I realized all the signs were there for so long and all the comments telling me she was probably cheating were right. But I tried to keep a clear head for at least a second because I really love my wife and I couldn't believe it. Asked her who it could have been and she actually said she didn't know. She said she hadn't done it with anyone during the time I was avoiding her.
Unknown
Mm. Math. The math ain't math in she swore.
Bailey Sarian
It and also didn't know what this meant. I thought about it and realized if she was really pregnant for that long, her tummy should be showing. And it wasn't. I decided to call the place and ask them to confirm what they said. My wife told me it would be a waste of time and she promised she heard them clearly. So I didn't do it that night. But I couldn't sleep without hearing it from the doctors for myself. I called the clinic she told me she went to the next day in the morning and asked them to confirm the results. They told me something worse than I expected. She had no visit. She was never there. I didn't understand that at all. Before I talked to my wife again, I did what I should have done in the first place and reverse image search the pregnancy test image. Yeah, it was on Google from a random years old Facebook post. I was again really mad at my wife and couldn't believe that she had put me through all of this.
Unknown
Damn. What is she doing?
Bailey Sarian
I'm. I am just. Wow. I confronted her about the picture and that I called the place and there was no appointment. I told her she had a pattern of lying and this was probably the end of our relationship. But she responded in a way I didn't expect. She burst into tears and had a manic episode but then said that she really had cheated on me and really was pregnant and that I had made this up in my head because I couldn't face what she did to me. She said she felt like the devil and started sobbing and literally screaming at the top of her lungs. She locked herself in the bathroom and told me she was going to hurt herself over what she did to me. I couldn't get the door open and freaked out. I called the cops and they broke down the door. She wasn't hurt, but she was really out of it. They took her to get mental health help and she told them everything there. She even started mixing in stuff about the board and how she knew everyone around her was a cheater, so she had done the same because she was in an evil place. She promised them she was pregnant, but she didn't know who the father was. They tested her while she was in custody. No pregnancy at all. They told me she was likely suffering from a form of schizophrenia and acted genuinely believing that she was. What she was saying was true and likely always had to some level. But it seemed to be getting worse. They said she had a symptom called self accusation and needed help. I got her in a facility last week. She is safe. They're making a little progress. I do not think that she thinks she is pregnant anymore. I have visited a few times, but she is very withdrawn with me and says she feels too guilty to look me in the eye. I think there was definitely meddling at certain parts, like planting evidence. But now I just feel terrible that I did not get her the help she needed when all the real signs were there. I hope her medication starts to help and she can be normal again. And yeah, the neighborhood gossip is having a field day with all of this.
Unknown
I bet. I bet.
Bailey Sarian
Anyways, thanks for listening. I hope this is my last update. Thank you all for the help.
Unknown
That's sad. That's sad because at first the surface story, you're like, she's just being weird. Well, I'm thinking she's being weird.
Bailey Sarian
Whatever, whatever.
Unknown
But then now that she's been. Yeah, she's in the mental institution. Mental hospital for schizophrenia. That is. That makes sense. That makes sense.
Bailey Sarian
The chart makes sense.
Unknown
The planting of the bra, the pregnant. Like, it kind of. Kind of makes sense.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And I feel really bad for him. That sucks. It's got to be so hard.
Bailey Sarian
They're both absolutely going through it. And, you know, I didn't jump to cheating from the jump like that first post. I didn't jump to cheating. And even the second, we were kind of like, well, what is this all for still? And it does make sense, like severe mental illness, but like, him being like, I feel bad I didn't get her the help she needed. I don't know if I would have recognized these as warning signs. Like the chart.
Unknown
Yeah. He shouldn't feel guilty at all.
Bailey Sarian
Poor guy.
Unknown
He was concerned. He was concerned enough to bring it up to her to post it on Reddit. So I don't feel like he should be guilty. It was just. He wasn't sure where to go with it.
Bailey Sarian
No. You know, and like, now having this whole resolution, which. Wow, I do think there could be a makeup here. They could mend this after a lot of therapy, medication management. But, like, I have more hope now that, like, she's got a diagnosis and is getting help versus where we left off on update two of like, her just planting this just to be evil or do create chaos.
Unknown
Totally. I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
You don't know if there's any. There's no hope, Bailey. Bailey, there's no hope.
Unknown
I don't believe in hope. No, it's just, it's hard because, look, when you get into a relationship with someone, you know, through sickness and in health.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And a lot of people mean that and then a lot of people don't. So I don't know, like schizophrenia. Like, if you didn't know that was coming and you don't know how to deal with it, like, and support your partner and be there for them. I'm sure it could be a lot for someone and they might not want. They. He might want out.
Bailey Sarian
I don't know. I don't know. It's definitely tricky.
Unknown
It's tricky. And yeah. I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
I'm wondering. He. He seems so hopeful that, like, I could see him giving it a shot. Like, poor guy. Didn't really know how ovulation and pregnancy works by the sound of it, to like, get a test a couple days later. Like, it sounds like she kind of used his ignorance against him in that regard.
Unknown
Or she was just trying to get him to, like, move on, move past me, take me back. Yeah. Like, see, I'm pregnant now. Like, let's move on. It felt like one of those moves.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. And people do that.
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
Bailey Sarian
All the time. People fake pregnancies all the time to get closer to their partner or forgive me or whatever. Like, that's not far fetched.
Unknown
Yeah, not at all. It's sick. It's gross. I'm like, God, what are you doing?
Bailey Sarian
Other ways. There's other people.
Unknown
Other people.
Bailey Sarian
There's other ways to manipulate. No, there's other people.
Unknown
There's other ways to manipulate.
Bailey Sarian
Like don't fake a pregnancy test.
Unknown
Oh, no. Because then you gotta do the whole, like, I lost the baby and all that drama.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my God. I feel like she would have been one to, like, order the pregnancy pillow, too. And, like, fake it.
Unknown
You think?
Bailey Sarian
And fake it. Yeah, There was that one true crime story about the woman who literally wore a bump, faked it alongside her pregnant best friend, murdered the friend, tried to.
Unknown
Get the baby and took the baby. Yep. Yep. Sick.
Bailey Sarian
Like, you just don't know where people can go. I know where they'll take things.
Unknown
I know, right? Because first it's a simple chart, and.
Bailey Sarian
Now you just don't know.
Unknown
You just don't know. People surprise me every day.
Bailey Sarian
Well, I'll be sure to post the link on this one. No comments from OP on any of these posts. I don't know.
Unknown
How old was he?
Bailey Sarian
So that's what I went to go look back at. No mention of ages.
Unknown
Oh, interesting.
Bailey Sarian
So they could be young. They could be 23. I mean, married, but no mention of kids or anything yet. So, I mean, they could be young. She could be, you know, 23, 24, and having her first, you know, mental break.
Unknown
Poor thing. It's so scary.
Bailey Sarian
It's so. I can't even imagine.
Unknown
I know.
Bailey Sarian
I can't imagine.
Unknown
I hope she gets the help she needs, and I hope he moves on or moves forward with her.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Whatever the case may be. But I'm glad she's getting help.
Bailey Sarian
I am, too. Which does. The top comment does say the same thing. She was probably suffering from mental illness for a while. The recovery will be a long process. I've been through something similar as this and finally divorced years after. I wish you luck and advise you to get some counseling yourself to learn how to deal with this. Good luck.
Unknown
Yeah, that's a lot.
Bailey Sarian
It's a lot for both of them. And, like, I feel so bad for her, too, to, like, be in this facility. And she's like, I can't even look you in the eyes. I feel too guilty.
Unknown
Right? The shame. I mean, I don't know because, like, I don't know anyone with schizophrenia. Just what I've read. But, like, does she know what she did?
Bailey Sarian
I feel like based on the comment that she's not. Like, she doesn't think she's pregnant anymore, it maybe feels like she's starting to, like, come back down to reality and kind of out of that manic episode.
Unknown
God, that's scary. It's just scary. One day you could wake up and then, like, your brain is just off.
Bailey Sarian
Dude, I. Again, I am very. I recognize I'm a little paranoid, but, like, if I have a gummy some nights and I start seeing stuff. I'm like, this was a bad idea. Like, this is gonna cause me to have, like, this is it my break or like, even if I don't have a gummy and I'm like walking around outside and I see something out of the corner of my eye. I'm like, am I okay? Like, I, I don't know, like, it would be so scary because I feel like if you were going down that mental health, like down that spiral, it's a slow burn.
Unknown
Maybe initially it seems that way based off of what I've read.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, I'd love. I know we have a lot of listeners that have things like bipolar and I know we have some listeners with schizophrenia. If you could comment and like provide some insight about, you know, what that looked like for you, if you're comfortable, of course, or you know, what you see happening for this relationship and if there's a chance of making amends, I'd love to have your takes in the comments. It'd be really appreciated.
Unknown
Definitely, definitely. And to know how to better be supported.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Like, if your partner has schizophrenia. Well, if you have schizophrenia, like, how would you want your partner to support you?
Bailey Sarian
I'd love that. Yeah, I'd love that. And like, how do you wish you would have been supported during your initial, you know, psychosis?
Unknown
Right.
Bailey Sarian
Like, that would be really helpful for a lot of people too because, you know, we do have a lot of people that are young and dating, who knows if your partner will be affected by something like this.
Unknown
So I know it's so scary.
Bailey Sarian
It's so, it's a lot. But comment your thoughts, otherwise we're moving along. Okay. Do we want to lighten the mood a little bit?
Unknown
I don't know. I like you like this. I like this. You like this.
Bailey Sarian
Okay, well, I'm going to at least give us something a little satisfying. I just found this subreddit. It's the first time I think we're dabbling with this. It's called R slash Traumatize them back. Uh huh. So I've got, I've got a quick one from this supermarket aisle. Earlier this evening, I just witnessed a massacre. A 20 something man carrying a baby in a sling is trying to shop in peace, only to be accosted by an older woman making eye contact with him. And then me. She loudly proclaims, quote, I love to see a man doing the babysitting. Are you giving his mom a break? To which he replies, quote, I am her mom. I just haven't had a chance to look at myself much after having a newborn clearly dying inside. The woman sputters, bows backwards, apologizing, and disappears around the corner. He then casually says to me, quote, I'm her dad. Really. I just don't like it when they call it babysitting. It was legendary, perhaps the greatest thing I've ever seen in real life. I laughed so hard, especially when I rounded the corner and realized she had heard him, dumped her trolley and ran out of the shop. Dads of Reddit Next time someone calls taking care of your child babysitting, follow his example. They'll never do it again.
Unknown
That's pretty funny.
Bailey Sarian
So satisfying. I love this subreddit. It's like petty revenge, but like on steroids.
Unknown
Yeah, like just little things, little jobs, nothing major and just something small little. Mm.
Bailey Sarian
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Unknown
Of Cuckoo right now.
Bailey Sarian
Okay, this is new for me.
Unknown
Cuckooed.
Bailey Sarian
Cuckooed. Okay, I'm I'm thinking it's a term from the uk, but you'll see. So this post is coming from R slash Legal Advice uk, so I would think UK term. It's titled I think my neighbor has been Cuckooed. Hi. I'll try to keep this short. This is in England, by the way. I live in a semi detached house that's been split into two flats. I live in the upstairs one. My neighbor, an elderly woman in her mid-80s in the downstairs one. We're sort of loose friends slash acquaintances. I take her to bridge nights every so often, do her shopping and she lets me use her garden when the weather's nicer or lets me get some food shopping on her card, that kind of stuff. Every so often I do a bit of baking and I like to take her a bit. A slice of cake, for example. And at the end of September, when I went downstairs, an older man came to the door. Never seen this bloke before and he was probably 60s, not middle aged, but not her age, if you get what I mean. And dressed a bit weird in a blazer and tie, was very aggressive and asked what I wanted. I said I was here to see my neighbor and he said in this weird faux posh accent, quote, Mrs. X is not taking visitors right now, but took the cake and slammed the door in my face. Really weird. But assumed it was her son or something. I know she has kids, but they're not in the picture. Ever since then, things have gotten weirder. I've only seen my neighbor twice. Once when she was in the garden with him and once being bundled off into a car very late at night before coming back in the early hours of the morning. Both times she looked very uncomfortable. Over the last few weeks I've noticed the curtains are always shut and her garden is getting overgrown and untidy. Some nights there's shouting. I can hear a male and female voice, but it's not hers. And a few times I've seen a Filipino woman coming to and from the property. Whenever I've encountered the man when leaving the house, more or less or seen him leaving the property, he's either blanked me or gotten very aggressive when I try to speak to him. I once asked if my neighbor was okay and he threatened to contact the neighborhood watch. I did contact the police on 101 and they were trying to fob me off and sort of implying because it's an older bloke and not obviously related to county lines, which I don't think it is, they're not really interested. More or less got told it's probably just her boyfriend and I should stop being nosy. I'm really concerned for my neighbor. So is there any way I can get the police interested or maybe contact someone at the council. Thank you for any advice.
Unknown
Damn. Cuckooed.
Bailey Sarian
Cuckooed. What is cuckooed?
Unknown
I don't know, it sounds like conservatorship. How old is she?
Bailey Sarian
No mention of damage.
Unknown
I need age ranges.
Bailey Sarian
Our writer's age, but woman is elderly. Woman in her mid-80s. The guy cuckooing is 60s. So kind of a big age gap to be dating.
Unknown
Right. Family, Older brother. Older mean brother who's coming in and trying to.
Bailey Sarian
I don't know.
Unknown
I don't know either.
Bailey Sarian
A lot of people were confused about the cuckooing.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
So asking like what is cuckooing? And op responds, it's based off the bird. From what I know, I learned about it because my sister's father in law is in the drugs squad and deals with it. Basically, I'm concerned this bloke has moved in to her flat and is using it for whatever shit he's pulling. Though funnily enough, I've never actually seen him do anything out of the ordinary beyond being a bell end and having this Filipino woman around every so often. I'm gonna google cuckooing too. One more time I'm like, yeah.
Unknown
Cause I feel like when I've heard of reference to the cuckoo bird, I know that's where cuckold comes from. From the cuckoo bird.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, because they in their mating dance, they cuckold one another.
Unknown
Well, I think isn't a cuckold when like you watch someone else bang your.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And I think it comes from the cuckoo bird.
Bailey Sarian
What?
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Oh my God.
Unknown
2:00Am deep dives.
Bailey Sarian
Wow.
Unknown
I don't remember specifically why I want to say because they swap partners. But I could be making all this up.
Bailey Sarian
I could see that.
Unknown
Which makes sense.
Bailey Sarian
I'm not a monogamous bird.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Hmm.
Unknown
Fact check me though. I could be wrong, but I believe it comes from cuckoo bird.
Bailey Sarian
I love finding out like little tidbits about weird stuff like that.
Unknown
Me too. Because then you're like, ah, okay, okay, sure.
Bailey Sarian
I see.
Unknown
I can see that. Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
So the definition of cuckooing, it's a form of action termed by the police in which the home of a vulnerable person is taken over by a criminal in order to use it to deal, store, or take drugs, facilitate sex, work as a place for them to live or to financially abuse the tenant.
Unknown
What? Wait, watch, watch, watch, watch. So is this like a squatter who just moves in?
Bailey Sarian
It's giving like an intense squatter.
Unknown
Like I know this woman, but I'm just gonna come and like move in essentially.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, poor thing that sucks in her 80s.
Unknown
Yeah. How did it Ah, can they do, like, a. I don't know what the laws are out there, but, like, a wellness check?
Bailey Sarian
That's what I would assume.
Unknown
Can't they do, like, an anonymous tip? Like, hey, I think drugs are next door.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Or something.
Bailey Sarian
I'd lie. I'd start being like, I saw. I saw him cooking in there. I saw something happening.
Unknown
Right.
Bailey Sarian
We need. We need investigation.
Unknown
And then if nothing truly came of it, then maybe just start looking in the window. Windows.
Bailey Sarian
I. I'd become a peeper to make sure my neighbor's okay for sure. I mean, her garden's overrun. The warning signs are there.
Unknown
Maybe they can go next door and be like, hey, I just noticed that your garden's a little, like, run down. Maybe I can help you and, like, work on it, and that's how you get inside. I doubt that.
Bailey Sarian
You gotta do something. You gotta get in. You gotta get in there.
Unknown
Yeah, there's something going on.
Bailey Sarian
Someone does recommend, like, trying the adult social services at your local council, even if there isn't enough evidence of a crime for the police to investigate at this stage, the way she's being isolated from you is a warning sign for elder abuse, and it definitely is.
Unknown
Yeah, that's sad.
Bailey Sarian
There's, like, a lot away. Yeah, there's a lot of, like, warning signs for elder abuse. And I, like, I used to really have them locked down, but, like, there's so many, you know, careers that are mandated reporters. So I just start. Start calling a hotline. Get someone in there. Yeah, get someone in there.
Unknown
Just lie and be anonymous.
Bailey Sarian
Lie. I. I would make up anything.
Unknown
I.
Bailey Sarian
Who cares? Like, if you get a ticket for a false report. Like, he's being weird. He's being rude. Something's not right. You haven't seen her. You've seen her twice. Twice?
Unknown
Twice.
Bailey Sarian
That's crazy, because this was originally posted October 29th. So to see her only a couple times since September.
Unknown
Maybe she's sick. Maybe this guy is just taking care of her. I don't know. I'm trying to think of the best here.
Bailey Sarian
For someone that doesn't believe in hope, you're being very hopeful over there.
Unknown
I know, because I don't want to think of a poor old woman getting taken advantage of. It's so sad.
Bailey Sarian
We have an update.
Unknown
Oh, there's an update.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Oh, I love that.
Bailey Sarian
We got an update. Okay, update. Hi there. You might remember this post I made the other week about my neighbor being cuckooed. The short answer is she was. Though probably not for the reasons any of us expected. Okay, so what happened after the post? The next day I contacted the council's MASH team as advised and they were extremely helpful. They were immediately concerned and said that they would be sending someone a check on her. They also asked if I could keep a diary of any events as they would like to speak to me when they do arrive. And I said I'll make a log of whatever happens. So the week goes by and more weird stuff happens. It was all quiet and then on Halloween a group of older gentlemen come to the property and then some women who I assumed were strippers, they show up before leaving a few minutes later, screaming at the man who's in the flat. And he kept threatening to report them and was waving around this insect spray. Anytime any trick or treaters came by, they'd get the same response. It was really fucking weird. On Friday night I see my neighbor getting bundled into a mini cab and then returned early hours of Sunday in a different mini cab with the old bloke screaming at the driver before he rushes her inside again. All very weird. Anyways, yesterday two social workers arrive and talk to me. I show them everything I've written and they agree this looks very much like cuckooing. But they aren't sure why this old bloke is doing it or what he's doing with the property. Now, I wasn't there for the initial confrontation, but I know they went down to speak to him and he immediately went on the usual spiel. I'm going to report you to the neighbor's watch, get off my property, et cetera. When they weren't going, he sprayed them in the eyes with something and slammed the door shut.
Unknown
What? What is going on?
Bailey Sarian
Police and ambulance were rang and I helped them wash their eyes out. From what I could hear. When the police arrived, he tried the same bullshit with them. The spraying, not the neighborhood watch. But sounded like they tackled him and he got hauled away in cuffs. Police found my neighbor in the property, padlocked in the box room before she was taken to the hospital.
Unknown
Jesus.
Bailey Sarian
We did get into the property later, and for the most part it was how it had been left. But every door, I mean every door had a padlock on it. I did speak to my neighbor in the hospital, her kids are coming down. And she explained to me that she met this man at her bridge club where he claimed he was in the parachute regiment but was now down on his luck and asked if he could stay with her for a night or two. Unfortunately, she had agreed. Apparently the first evening was fine, but the next Day the moment she goes into the toilet, he attaches a padlock to it and locks her in.
Unknown
Oh my God, what a psycho.
Bailey Sarian
That's when the abuse started. During the time he was living there, he apparently tried to take control of the flat and her bank accounts with the goal of chucking her out. And he would get angry and scream at her when she didn't get in to him, but she refused to respond to him. She didn't really want to say much, but said he told people she was his cleaner. And the cars in the middle of the night were taxis taking her to hotels all across the region to try and get rid of her.
Unknown
What?
Bailey Sarian
I am not okay. I had to leave after that. But she said one day he had one of his little parties and the flat was fine from the fact someone had smeared shit on their wall.
Unknown
Jesus Christ. Jesus.
Bailey Sarian
As for the bloke, no idea what happened and we've had all the locks changed, though we have suspicions he'll attempt to return. One night I did hear someone try to handle to the front door. I assume they mean a crowbar. My neighbor's going to go stay with my sister when she's discharged, and some of my bigger mates from Warhammer have offered to stay downstairs just in case, but we'll see. Thank you all for the assistance. You all were amazing. I showed her all the comments and she was blown away by the support. So a huge thank you from both of us.
Unknown
Awesome. At least that was a happy ending. And because, look, real talk, I'm surprised he didn't murder her. Like the fact that he kept her around for so long.
Bailey Sarian
I think he would have if she would have given him banking info and all of that stuff. Totally. I 100% think this would have turned into true crime. I have no doubt in my mind.
Unknown
Yeah, for sure.
Bailey Sarian
This is coming from legal advice. Reddit, right? This is not one of our, like, no sleep, like crazy fiction stories. This is coming from legal advice. Imagine if this person wouldn't have had like that gut instinct that something was wrong. Or like, this could have gone so wrong. Thank God this little subreddit was here and they actually got like good legal advice. And thank God the social workers showed up.
Unknown
I want to know, is cuckooing like a big problem in the uk? Because that's wild that someone can essentially just do that. But I guess, couldn't you do that here too?
Bailey Sarian
I think it does happen here, right?
Unknown
Because all it takes is the kindness of someone. Just like, hey, come stay with me for the night or whatever. Like Not a big deal. And then they just lock you in your room.
Bailey Sarian
I just. Dude, I would. She was locked in there for at least a month.
Unknown
How come our kids didn't come check on her?
Bailey Sarian
That's like. That's what makes me so sad.
Unknown
Or how come the neighbors didn't, like, didn't have family references?
Bailey Sarian
I don't know. It seems like this neighbor writing in really is support. I mean, for this woman to get out of the hospital and then go live with our writer's sister. That. I mean, they sound, like, really close, like, almost like family.
Unknown
Yeah, totally.
Bailey Sarian
So, I don't know. Maybe the kids live far. Maybe the kids live in the States. Time different. Who knows? But it is odd to not have talked to your mom for a month. And maybe she was allowed.
Unknown
Depends.
Bailey Sarian
But yeah, maybe she was allowed a phone call, but he sat there, over there, like, over her with, like, a weapon or a knife or who knows?
Unknown
Like, who knows?
Bailey Sarian
Better not say anything.
Unknown
Yeah. That's so scary. I hope he got locked up.
Bailey Sarian
I hope so. Which I do have hope that he did get locked up because I Googled. Is cuckooing a big problem in the UK? Poor Google terms, probably. But as of May 15, 2024, the government has finally accepted the evil practice of cuckooing, and police now have the powers to take down cuckoors.
Unknown
Nice.
Bailey Sarian
So laws have been changed. Like, maybe it's more enforceable because otherwise, like, that would have been kind of a. Interesting thing to prosecute because it's like, well, she let me in with permission.
Unknown
I know. Here it's like squatter's rights. I know. Which is wild that you can just move in and now you live there.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And, like, there's nothing really anybody can do.
Bailey Sarian
No.
Unknown
So it's nice that they at least have these laws in place that will help, like, remove these.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
Shitty people.
Bailey Sarian
I know. I really appreciate that. The squatter stuff in California especially is really bizarre. Crazy.
Unknown
Bizarre.
Bailey Sarian
Really crazy.
Unknown
The fact you can move in. You could just literally walk into someone's house, be like, I'm living here now.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
And just get mail sent to the house. That's all you need. And it's your. Like, you just live there.
Bailey Sarian
I saw this video of a guy on TikTok who. His sister had an Airbnb and the lady stayed and, like, is a squatter now. And so he moved in and is just, like, terrorizing this person. I love it.
Unknown
I love that. For other people. If it were me, I would go absolutely psychotic.
Bailey Sarian
No. I remember my realtor kind of like, Just. I don't know why she told me this. Like, I don't think it was a really a big concern, but when we got our first home, she was like, you know, I don't think this will ever be an issue. But just so you know, technically you can close the escrow. Confusing. Will fund and close the sale. But there's nothing necessarily to force them to leave. It's your house. If they choose to stay, they could. And you would have to get the sheriff involved to then evict them.
Unknown
Oh, my gosh.
Bailey Sarian
And I'm like, what? How? How do they even have rights to do that? And if they're not leaving, why would the escrow pay? That seems right, like so wild. It's a little back.
Unknown
It's a little backwards. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Bailey Sarian
But it happens.
Unknown
It happens all the time.
Bailey Sarian
It happens all the time. Yeah.
Unknown
It's weird. I don't get it.
Bailey Sarian
I'm just.
Unknown
I don't get it.
Bailey Sarian
I'm so glad this little lady's okay.
Unknown
Me too. Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
I'm so happy.
Unknown
Yeah. That's so sad.
Bailey Sarian
Insane. Insane.
Unknown
What were they doing? Did they say? Drugs? Sex?
Bailey Sarian
I think he just wanted a place to live. Trying to get her money.
Unknown
Jesus.
Bailey Sarian
Just needed a roof over his head.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
And to like play the military card, like you knew you were garnering sympathy. Like, maybe, maybe he was in the military, maybe that wasn't a lie. But I don't believe him. Not for a second.
Unknown
I mean, maybe he was, but like, yeah, I'm same with you.
Bailey Sarian
I'm pessimistic.
Unknown
No, but he knew he went after her for a reason. He can tell that she was vulnerable. Vulnerable?
Bailey Sarian
Bridge club? Yeah, I mean, he went to bridge club, finding it, scoping out his victim.
Unknown
Yeah. So he's just gonna do it again.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
If he gets out.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
I wonder how long they stay for.
Unknown
I have no idea how the UK works.
Bailey Sarian
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Unknown
I'm going to say no right off the bat.
Bailey Sarian
Yesterday, my 20 female boyfriend, 19 male, bought us both ice cream. When we got it, the server asked if I wanted a special type of cone. I said yes, picking out what looked to me to be bits of cookie stuck to chocolate on the cone. My boyfriend got this as well and it cost an extra $6 on top of the $18 already for the ice cream. He paid for it as his treat, even though I think he didn't expect it to be so expensive. When I started to eat, I realized it was actually bits of peanut. I'm not allergic, but I don't really like nuts that much, especially on sweet ice cream when the flavors don't really match up. I started to pick off the nuts most of them were stuck on pretty hard. I eventually just ripped off the entire chocolate part of the cone and threw it into the bin. I didn't notice my boyfriend at first, but about 30 seconds later he stormed off and I could see he was crying, something I haven't ever seen him do before. I chased after him and asked him what was wrong and he yelled at me for being ungrateful and for making him literally throw away his money for no reason. This made me very upset as well and I started crying too. He calmed down and comforted me after this, but never properly apologized. For additional context, earlier that day we went out to my favorite fast food place and I picked out something that I hadn't tried before rather than my Regular. He paid for it, but I didn't end up eating it because I didn't really like it. So I let him have it. I felt hungry after that. And after I told him, he then took me to get the ice cream. Since I got home that day, he hasn't messaged me back at all. And I'm starting to get worried. Am I the asshole?
Unknown
No, she's not the asshole, but I think they should. This is too emotional over an ice cream.
Bailey Sarian
I was like, am I missing something?
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, we are missing something. To be young and 20.
Bailey Sarian
19.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. No, she's not the asshole. If you don't want, like peanuts on your thing, you. You take them off.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
It's not like she was through a hissy fit like a three year old and was like, oh, my God, peanuts. Fuck this. And like, like, made it all dramatic. She just quietly picked them off. Threw away the part she didn't want. She didn't know. I know, like, for him to get up and cry over that, I personally would be like, all right, well, this has been fun, I think, you know, good luck to you.
Bailey Sarian
Bye.
Unknown
Yeah, like, it's not that big of a deal, but to be fair, that ice cream was very expensive.
Bailey Sarian
So I'm like, where did they go?
Unknown
Coldstone, probably. They're so expensive.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my gosh. Have you ever had gingers here in la?
Unknown
No.
Bailey Sarian
So, so good.
Unknown
Really, so good.
Bailey Sarian
They have a lot of vegan options, so that's why we go there a lot. And to get like a tiny little one, I think it's like 18. It's just like, it's ridiculous. It's. It's.
Unknown
I'm a good old fashioned Ben and Jerry kind of girl, so.
Bailey Sarian
You know my favorite ice cream? IKEA.
Unknown
Really?
Bailey Sarian
Yep. It's like a dollar for a cone. $99, something like that.
Unknown
Damn.
Bailey Sarian
Members get a discount. And it is the best custardy cone. It's so good that, like, it's like that sugar cone too, that, like the ice cream soaks in and then it gets like a little soggy, but it's so good. Best cone ever. I also, I go to IKEA for lunch a lot too. I get the meatballs, plant balls.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Best lunch you'll ever have. It's so good.
Unknown
I avoid IKEA at all costs. There's no windows. You go inside. There's no windows in the cafe.
Bailey Sarian
There is actually beautiful view of the mountains.
Unknown
You gotta get there somehow. I get. Oh, I feel like a hamster in one of those mazes.
Bailey Sarian
Oh, Anytime you want to go to ikea, a little lunch, IKEA date. I'm ready. It is. Seriously. It's such good food, you guys. It's so slept on for a date.
Unknown
It's so funny.
Bailey Sarian
It's so slept on.
Unknown
It's okay.
Bailey Sarian
I'm passionate about IKEA sponsorship. Not yet. I'm here. Ikea. I'm here.
Unknown
That's so funny. I would never think they have, like. Well, I've heard their meatballs are really good.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
I won't lie.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. They have so many kinds.
Unknown
Yeah. But when I. I believe you. Just getting there.
Bailey Sarian
For me, you'll take my word for it.
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's not my favorite, but.
Bailey Sarian
This one, I mean, do you think they can make up, or do you think, like, this is kind of a. Is the ice cream the straw that broke the camel's back?
Unknown
Well, when you're young, you start to learn what's important to you and what's not important to you in relationships. And that's what's nice, is that when you're dating, you get to find out things that you like and you don't like. So for this, she and he can determine, is this something, like, I want to put up with?
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
You know, like, do I want to date someone who's going to. I don't know. Every little penny he spends, like, I'm gonna feel some kind of guilt if I don't eat it all.
Bailey Sarian
That is a very good point.
Unknown
Yeah. Like, because I've dated someone like that who just, like, watched every penny, and, like, I love that. Great.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Money management. Great. Smart.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
But it's like when they start making you feel guilty for every little, like, hey, do you know how much that costs? You just threw it away. And it's like, oh, some people doesn't bother, but it's like, you have to figure it out. Like, if that's something he's going to be doing. Is that something you want to put up with?
Bailey Sarian
I did not even consider that. And it's such a valuable point because that gets to be so unhealthy. And then, especially if it's around food, like, you don't want to instill unhealthy eating habits or, you know, cause that to domino into something else. Ooh, Mike drop. Bailey. Okay, let's go.
Unknown
No, but it's like, you know, that pressure of I have to eat my whole plate because if not, he's going to be upset with me. Or, like, I don't want to start a fight. Yeah. Or I should just eat this and shut up. It just can turn into something.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Bigger.
Bailey Sarian
Well. And you shouldn't be forced to eat stuff you don't like. Like, it's okay to get something and then realize you don't like it.
Unknown
Right.
Bailey Sarian
Especially like, it's fast food and ice cream. I, you know, I get going to a Michelin Star and ordering a hundred dollar steak and then all of a sudden being like, I don't like it. I'm not eating it. That's kind of shitty.
Unknown
You better fucking eat that $100 steak. I don't give a shit.
Bailey Sarian
Eat it. Oh, but yeah, I'm like, there's. I'm like, this doesn't need to be so heavy. So serious.
Unknown
No, but they're also really young and they could be making like. Do you remember your first paycheck?
Bailey Sarian
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I worked at Perkins as a hostess.
Unknown
Yeah. And it's just like, you know how like you thought you were going to get a lot and then when you first get that paycheck and you're like, wow, this is nothing. And then having to date, like, take people out and then imagine if they're like, I don't like this.
Bailey Sarian
And you're like, such a slap in the face.
Unknown
It is.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah. Or just.
Unknown
Yeah. I could see where he's coming from too, but crying, talk it out. Learn how to communicate from a young age, please.
Bailey Sarian
I know. That's one thing. I'm like, we should start having people take communication classes like in high school. Like, literally. Let's all learn how to talk to people again.
Unknown
Definitely.
Bailey Sarian
Because I feel like a lot of that is really missing these days.
Unknown
Definitely.
Bailey Sarian
Definitely, really missing.
Unknown
And sometimes when you do try to communicate with someone, if you word it wrong, then it comes off the wrong way and then it backfires and it's just like. So communication classes would be really smart.
Bailey Sarian
I think so. Which we do have some comments from OP he yelled at me over the ice cream, which. Yelling about this. Like, here we go. All the more reason for communication classes. Generally I'm not very fussy because I just normally order the same kinds of things. Today I just wanted to try something new because it looked really yummy, but it had way too much mustard, which I didn't really like. None of the food went to waste because I ate a part of it and I gave him the fast food to eat. I asked him if he was okay over text, but he's leaving me on delivered so far. There is a comment here which is interesting. OP Got asked like, why didn't you buy the ice cream after he bought you the fast food? I'm saving my money for a car. He doesn't have his license yet, so he has more money to spend freely. But what's interesting, and it doesn't appear until the 10th comment, he did just lose his job, but he still has a bit saved up, and he doesn't really have any big expenses.
Unknown
Aw. Maybe he's gone through a lot.
Bailey Sarian
That's starting to add up. Why he cried.
Unknown
Yeah.
Bailey Sarian
Cause, like, to spend your money on someone twice that you love and care.
Unknown
About, and then they were just kind.
Bailey Sarian
Of throwing it away, not liking it. You lost your job. That could be. I know. It's over. Like, a $3 cone. Maybe that's his last $3.
Unknown
Like, totally. Or it's just like, the day in general.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Maybe she didn't say thank you. You know, and that's. I don't know.
Bailey Sarian
That bugs me so much.
Unknown
Bugs me to my core. If you do not say thank you, I will never talk to you again.
Bailey Sarian
I literally, I go to eat with someone and, like, it's like a first time going out to eat with them. Like a new friend or a work person. If they don't say thank you to people, I write them off and like the way you treat people and just so easy. It's two words.
Unknown
Thank you.
Bailey Sarian
Thank you.
Unknown
Thank you. Yeah, just like, hey, thank you. Like, even if you didn't like the food, thank you, though, for taking me out to dinner. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Bailey Sarian
Top comment. Where do you think this one went? Do you think you're the asshole, not the asshole?
Unknown
Not the asshole is probably where it went.
Bailey Sarian
Really? Top. Top comment is you're the asshole.
Unknown
You're the asshole for taking off peanuts.
Bailey Sarian
Mm. You're the asshole. You. One, he bought you food once that you wound up not eating. Two, you then complained about being hungry. Three, he then heard that and went to buy you more food ice cream, which you then proceeded to Hulk smash in front of him. I get not liking nuts, but come on.
Unknown
Hulk smash.
Bailey Sarian
4, you somehow still didn't realize the multiple things you did, which are generally considered rude. Five, somehow you made you hurting his feelings into you being the victim. And six, you wound up expecting an apology from him instead of the other way around. Also, did you even thank him a single time for all the food you wasted, or did you just repeatedly ask for food and waste it in front of him?
Unknown
A. Okay, well, when you put it like that.
Bailey Sarian
Thank you. Top comment.
Unknown
Top comment.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah, I Wonder if she said thank you.
Unknown
Yeah, we don't really know. And we don't know if she was like, complaining the whole way. We're only getting a snippet here.
Bailey Sarian
I know.
Unknown
Because it's like, okay, if they went to the first restaurant, she's like, I don't like this. And then afterwards, I'm so hungry. Like, yeah, I can understand.
Bailey Sarian
I could see why he'd be just like, at his wits end.
Unknown
Yeah, totally.
Bailey Sarian
And guys can cry too. Like, there's no shame in that. I was initially very surprised over, like.
Unknown
The ice cream cone.
Bailey Sarian
It's. You're crying over spilled milk. In a sense, like, that was odd. But if this is like, I'm just being kind of walked over, like, walked over. She's not gracious. She's entitled. I'm not getting a thank you. Like, I'd cry too. I've. I've cried over less.
Unknown
Oh, me too.
Bailey Sarian
I've cried over a lot less.
Unknown
Me too. Me too. Poor guy. It sounds like he's kind of gone through it.
Bailey Sarian
Definitely.
Unknown
Maybe they should go their own way and, like, figure life out. And then if it's meant to be, they'll reunite.
Bailey Sarian
I don't think I'd make up over this one. I think you're just. Just go get it.
Unknown
Just tell people that it makes them feel better. Like, if it's meant to be, you'll come back together. Yeah, that way doesn't sound so permanent.
Bailey Sarian
I like that. Little. Little hopeful over there.
Unknown
I am a little hopeful. Maybe. I am.
Bailey Sarian
There's some hope over there.
Unknown
There is. That was fun. Those were some journeys we went on.
Bailey Sarian
I'm not okay.
Unknown
Yeah, a lot of. I'm like, okay. Life's not that bad.
Bailey Sarian
Man. Someone just asked me the other day, it was a really good interview with a woman named Natalie, and she asked me, she was like, what do you think people get out of your podcast? And I was like, I think it's something for so many people. Like, it's something different for everyone. But I was like, I think one thing. And this just came to me recently. There's a saying where it's like, comparison is the thief of joy. This is the opposite. You might be comparing, but I hope it brings you joy instead of stealing it from you. But, Bailey, thank you so, so much for being here today.
Unknown
Thank you for having me.
Bailey Sarian
Where can everyone find you?
Unknown
You can find me everywhere. YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Spotify. Spotify, Apple. Apple, Snapchat. Oh, Twitter. Well, X threads at TikTok. TikTok. Ailey Sarian.
Bailey Sarian
Everywhere.
Unknown
Yes, yes, I'm everywhere and anywhere. All the time.
Bailey Sarian
Your content is so good. I just started the Erin Hernandez one because it is football season and football, I'm diving into it and that was a really. That was a crazy, crazy case as well. So I will, I will be sure to put all of Bailey's links in the description. Really easy to find. But make sure you go and give a watch if you haven't already. Because I mean that auto one, the attic guy lived in the attic for 10 years. I will link that one.
Unknown
It's nuts.
Bailey Sarian
It's insane, you guys.
Unknown
Yeah, it's insane. It's so good. It was fun. No one dies. Well, actually, I'm sorry. Someone does die because you.
Bailey Sarian
Someone dies. I mean, it is murder Monday.
Unknown
Murder mystery and makeup.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Sometimes there are stories where sometimes no one dies. And it's like those one off stories.
Bailey Sarian
Like I survived almost kind of.
Unknown
Yeah. And I. For a minute there, I thought this was one of those, but I forgot. The husband dies.
Bailey Sarian
He does die.
Unknown
The sex guy.
Bailey Sarian
Yeah.
Unknown
Yeah. It's all right.
Bailey Sarian
Check it out for yourself.
Unknown
Check it out. Thank you so much for having me.
Bailey Sarian
Thank you.
Unknown
It's been a lot of fun.
Bailey Sarian
Been so good. Until next time, guys. Bye.
Podcast Summary: "Two Hot Takes" Episode 194: Makeup Possible Here? Ft. Bailey Sarian
Release Date: December 5, 2024
Host: Morgan Absher with Guest Bailey Sarian
In Episode 194 of Two Hot Takes, host Morgan Absher welcomes makeup mogul and true-crime content creator Bailey Sarian for an engaging discussion centered around some of the most intriguing and controversial stories from Reddit's "Am I the Asshole?" (AITA) subreddit. The episode delves deep into relationship dilemmas, ethical quandaries, and personal boundaries, all while weaving in Bailey's expertise in true crime narratives.
AITA Post: "Am I the asshole for continuing to wear Makeup and dress in my normal style around a friend who thinks her husband has a crush on me."
Summary: The episode kicks off with a complex situation where a woman (29F) feels pressured by her friend (31F) to alter her appearance due to the friend's husband (35M) harboring a crush on her. The tension arises when the friend requests that she abstain from wearing makeup and opts for baggy clothing during social outings, leaving her feeling conflicted about maintaining the friendship versus respecting her friend's uncomfortable demands.
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Conclusion: Both Bailey and Morgan agree that the post's author is not at fault and that the friend’s request is unreasonable. They advocate for the author to stand firm in her self-expression and suggest that the friend address her own marital issues independently.
AITA Post: "Am I the asshole for telling my brother that he and his wife's Halloween costumes were tasteless."
Summary: The discussion shifts to a Halloween costume conflict where a brother and his wife chose to dress as infamous figures Charles Manson and Sharon Tate. The narrator felt compelled to confront them about the insensitivity of these character choices, especially considering Sharon Tate's tragic demise, leading to a strained familial relationship.
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Conclusion: The consensus among the hosts is that the original poster is not the asshole. They argue that expressing discomfort with insensitive costume choices is valid and does not make one at fault for addressing personal feelings of offense.
AITA Post: "Am I the asshole for Hating my wife's Creepy Project."
Summary: In one of the most intense segments, Bailey shares a harrowing AITA post involving her wife’s obsession with tracking neighbors’ infidelities through a conspiracy board in their home. This hobby escalates to the point where Bailey suspects manipulation and potential deceit, leading to a series of confrontations that reveal deeper psychological issues.
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Conclusion: The hosts express deep sympathy for Bailey’s situation, emphasizing the complexity of dealing with a partner's mental health issues. They advocate for professional intervention and highlight the importance of seeking support to navigate such challenging dynamics. The eventual resolution involves Bailey’s wife seeking mental health treatment, underscoring the significance of addressing psychological well-being in sustaining relationships.
AITA Post: "Am I the Asshole for Picking off the Nuts on an Ice Cream Cone."
Summary: The final AITA story revolves around a young couple where the narrator becomes upset with her boyfriend for reacting emotionally to her removing peanuts from his expensive ice cream cone. The incident spirals into a conflict about gratitude and communication, leaving both parties feeling hurt and disconnected.
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Conclusion: Morgan and Bailey discuss the importance of effective communication and emotional intelligence in relationships. They conclude that while the situation is minor, the disproportionate emotional response signifies underlying issues that need addressing. The original poster may not be the asshole, but the couple should work on their communication to prevent small conflicts from escalating.
Reddit Story: The Lady Who Had a Sex Slave in Her Attic for 10 Years
Summary: Bailey and the co-host delve into a disturbing true-crime story about a woman who kept a man confined in her attic for a decade. The discussion explores themes of psychological manipulation, consent, and the boundaries of personal relationships.
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Conclusion: The hosts express horror and disbelief over the case, emphasizing the severe abuse and lack of consent involved. They discuss the importance of recognizing red flags in relationships and the need for legal systems to protect vulnerable individuals.
Reddit Story: R/TraumatizeThemBack - Supermarket Showdown
Summary: To lighten the mood, Bailey introduces a humorous Reddit post from the subreddit R/SubredditStories titled "R/TraumatizeThemBack." The story recounts a hilarious encounter in a supermarket where a man calmly corrects a woman’s misinterpretation of his relationship with his child, leading to an amusing resolution.
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Conclusion: Bailey and Morgan enjoy the light-hearted tale, highlighting the importance of humor in diffusing tense situations and the universal nature of miscommunications.
Conclusion: Throughout the episode, Bailey Sarian and Morgan Absher provide insightful analyses of complex relationship issues gleaned from Reddit's AITA posts. They emphasize the importance of communication, personal boundaries, and mental health awareness in maintaining healthy relationships. The collaborative discussions between Bailey and Morgan offer listeners diverse perspectives, blending true-crime intrigue with real-life ethical dilemmas.
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Additional Resources: For those interested in exclusive stories and full-length videos featuring Bailey Sarian's content, visit Patreon or follow Two Hot Takes on YouTube. Connect with Morgan Absher on Instagram for more updates and behind-the-scenes content.
This episode masterfully balances intense, thought-provoking discussions with moments of levity, providing listeners with a comprehensive exploration of modern relationship challenges and the complexities of human behavior.