196: Naughty or Nice? Ft. Amanda Lehan-Canto & Tommy Bowe

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Hot Takes - Episode 196: Naughty or Nice?

Introduction

In episode 196 of Two Hot Takes, host Morgan Absher is joined by her co-hosts Amanda Lehan-Canto and Tommy Bowe from Smosh. The trio delves into the holiday spirit, discussing a range of Reddit’s “Am I the Asshole” (AITA) stories, listener submissions, and other intriguing internet tales centered around relationships, parenting, and personal dilemmas.

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1. Am I the Asshole for Telling My Sister-in-Law She Shouldn't Have a Christmas Tree?
Timestamp: 04:45 – 15:00

Story Overview:
A Reddit user questions whether they are in the wrong for advising their sister-in-law against putting up a Christmas tree. The user explains that their brother handles most household chores and childcare, leaving the sister-in-law home alone with children known for being disruptive. Concerned about the kids damaging the tree, the user expressed their apprehension, leading to tension within the family.

Discussion Highlights:

• Morgan emphasizes the strain of parenting and the inappropriateness of criticizing someone else's parenting choices:

  "You’re so incapable of parenting that you can't even get a Christmas tree up. Like, that's a low blow." [06:33]

• Tommy and Amanda agree that commenting on someone else's parenting, especially during the stressful holiday season, places the user on the naughty list:

  "I personally think they're being a little naughty just because it's like, shouldn't have gotten involved." [07:58]

• The trio concludes that the original poster (OP) should refrain from meddling in others' family matters and rates the OP as the naughty party in this scenario.

Conclusion:
NTA (Not the Asshole) - Advising someone against a potential issue is understandable, but approaching it tactfully and respectfully is crucial, especially during holidays.

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2. Peed My Pants: My Boyfriend Wouldn't Help Me
Timestamp: 15:32 – 48:10

Story Overview:
A 30-year-old woman recounts an incident where she experienced stress incontinence during an exam but couldn't leave to use the restroom. After the exam, she wet her pants and sought help from her boyfriend to obtain a change of clothes. Her boyfriend refused to assist, leaving her to face the embarrassment alone.

Discussion Highlights:

• Morgan shares a humorous yet empathetic recount of her own minor incontinence experience, highlighting the discomfort of dealing with wet clothing:

  "The worst peeing your pants is when you're wearing jeans." [16:08]

• Tommy and Amanda express frustration and disappointment in the boyfriend’s lack of support:

  "He does not want to and he does not love her." [17:52]

• The group stresses the importance of a partner being supportive during vulnerable moments, categorizing the boyfriend's behavior as unsupportive and selfish.

Conclusion:
NTA - The woman has every right to feel upset and justified in her anger towards a partner who refuses to offer basic support during an embarrassing and distressing situation.

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3. Protecting My Niece from a Pit Bull While My Husband Ran Off
Timestamp: 27:38 – 49:05

Story Overview:
A Reddit user describes a harrowing experience where a pit bull attacked her niece in the backyard. While she bravely intervened to protect the children, her husband abandoned the scene, failing to assist or retrieve necessary bear spray that could have mitigated the situation.

Discussion Highlights:

• Morgan recounts her own traumatic encounter with a dog attack, empathizing deeply with the OP’s ordeal:

  "I couldn't imagine if something worse had happened." [29:34]

• Tommy criticizes the husband’s reaction, highlighting his lack of courage and responsibility:

  "He's on the naughty list." [22:30]

• The hosts agree that the husband’s abandonment during a life-threatening situation severely breaches trust and duty within the marriage.

Conclusion:
NTA - The OP acted heroically to protect her niece and nephew, while her husband’s refusal to help marks him as the antagonist in this scenario.

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4. Accidentally Letting My Sister-in-Law Get Chemical Burns on Her Face
Timestamp: 52:44 – 93:18

Story Overview:
A 26-year-old woman shares an incident where her sister-in-law, a 16-year-old, used her expensive skincare products without permission, leading to severe chemical burns. In retaliation, the woman and her family began addressing each other by their full, cumbersome names to vex the sister-in-law further, exacerbating family tensions.

Discussion Highlights:

• Morgan condemns the sister-in-law’s actions, emphasizing the seriousness of using someone else's prescription skincare products:

  "It's dangerous to use someone’s prescription medication." [61:08]

• Tommy and Amanda discuss the inappropriateness and potential harm of the sister-in-law’s behavior, agreeing that the OP is justified in her resentment:

  "She is on the naughty list for sure." [62:43]

• The trio advises maintaining boundaries and addressing disrespectful behavior directly, advocating for the OP’s stance to protect her belongings and mental well-being.

Conclusion:
NTA - The sister-in-law’s unauthorized use of personal and prescription products is both disrespectful and harmful, justifying the OP’s reaction to safeguard her property and personal space.

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5. Audiobook Hot Takes
Timestamp: 73:30 – 135:01

Segment Overview:
Switching gears, the hosts explore various listener submissions related to audiobooks, discussing their benefits and sharing personal anecdotes.

Discussion Highlights:

• Morgan champions audiobooks as an accessible alternative to traditional reading, especially for those with reading comprehension challenges or busy lifestyles:

  "If I'm retaining the story, I'm successfully completing a book." [94:55]

• Tommy and Amanda discuss the efficiency and convenience of audiobooks, noting how they can enhance multitasking and foster shared experiences:

  "It's hands-free... it's a beautiful tool to welcome more people into the reading community." [97:58]

• The hosts highlight how audiobooks can aid in building community connections, such as shared audiobook clubs, and support diverse learning needs.

Conclusion:
Audiobooks are celebrated as a versatile and inclusive medium that enhances the reading experience, making stories more accessible and fostering community engagement.

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Final Thoughts and Community Engagement

Throughout the episode, Morgan, Amanda, and Tommy emphasize empathy, respect, and understanding in interpersonal relationships. They encourage listeners to reflect on their actions and foster supportive environments within their families and partnerships. The hosts also highlight the importance of community support, whether through shared interests like audiobooks or navigating complex family dynamics.

Notable Quotes:

• "You can't keep them in a bubble. That's just, like, you can reality. Like, accidents happen." – Morgan [12:42]
• "She is on the naughty list for sure." – Tommy [62:43]
• "Audiobooks are a beautiful tool to welcome more people into the reading community." – Morgan [95:36]

Engage with the Hosts:

• Morgan's Instagram: @morgsyabsher
• Amanda and Tommy: Available on Smosh platforms and their respective YouTube channels.
• Support the Show: Exclusive stories and more can be accessed via their Patreon: Two Hot Takes Patreon

Conclusion

Episode 196 of Two Hot Takes offers a compelling mix of heartfelt discussions, critical analyses of Reddit stories, and light-hearted segments on audiobooks. Morgan, Amanda, and Tommy provide insightful perspectives, fostering a sense of community and understanding among listeners navigating their own relationship and family challenges.

Transcript

[Morgan]

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[Amanda]

Yes.

[Tommy]

Ready. So ready.

[Morgan]

Here we go. Welcome you guys. To see how it takes. Hello.

[Amanda]

Hi.

[Tommy]

Thank you.

[Amanda]

Hi.

[Tommy]

My voice always drops a couple octaves.

[Amanda]

I feel like as soon as there's a like a podcast mic in front of me, I'm like, how are we doing?

[Tommy]

Yeah. Because that's what I feel like. That's podcast.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That's good.

[Tommy]

But it's not. That's two hot takes is awesome.

[Morgan]

Oh, thank you.

[Tommy]

It's so funny. It's so great. Reddit is. I hadn't discovered Reddit really until I started working at Smosh.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And now I actually go on it and I'm like, it's a crazy place.

[Amanda]

To shouldn't go on Reddit.

[Tommy]

I don't think I should.

[Amanda]

Has this beautiful set been revealed yet?

[Morgan]

No, this is brand new look for our holiday episode.

[Amanda]

Look at this gorgeous set.

[Tommy]

I'm obsessed.

[Amanda]

I'm losing my mind over this.

[Morgan]

Tommy's just like the little hype man over here.

[Tommy]

Today it's Pesto the penguin. No, I'm kidding. This, this is not pesto. You know what Pesto looks like?

[Morgan]

I love Pesto. He is getting his new feathers. He probably already has them. I'm out of the loop.

[Amanda]

The baby. The big baby.

[Tommy]

The big baby.

[Morgan]

That's like Pesto Moo dang. I mean, so cute. I love them all. I love them all.

[Tommy]

They look so good here.

[Morgan]

Thank you.

[Tommy]

And I wore a festive sweater.

[Amanda]

Oh.

[Tommy]

And you.

[Amanda]

And I looked for mine this morning and it's gone.

[Tommy]

It's okay. We have this blanket.

[Morgan]

It's festive. It's festive. Yeah. A friend made that. A listener made that.

[Amanda]

This was made by a person?

[Morgan]

Uh huh. Yeah. One of our friends in Colorado.

[Tommy]

Damn, this must have taken forever. It's so beautiful.

[Amanda]

One of the best blankets I've ever touched.

[Morgan]

I'm obsessed. I know, it's so good, but. Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two Hot Takes. I'm your host, Morgan, and today I'm joined by Amanda and Tommy from Smosh.

[Tommy]

That's one of those horns you go.

[Amanda]

You know, the poggy.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Clown ones.

[Tommy]

That's so good.

[Amanda]

Both of you, you're like, shut up.

[Tommy]

No, we're crazy.

[Morgan]

I like, I just go about my life making random sound effects and like, sometimes they're too much, but I'm like, you guys actually have the. The talent.

[Amanda]

Well, you don't need talent to do sound.

[Morgan]

I feel like you do, cuz otherwise you just sound. You sound goofy.

[Tommy]

That's true.

[Morgan]

You sound goofy. You guys just sound good. But today, you know, Santa is a busy guy. Oh, yeah, he's out there. There's a lot of kiddos he's got to get to. So Santa, you know, I think that's why he can't get to the adults. There's too many kids. He's so busy.

[Tommy]

Crazy.

[Morgan]

So we're going to help Santa out and we are making our own naughty or nice list.

[Tommy]

Oh, I love this. Awesome. Pure Reddit. Naughty or nice. I love this.

[Morgan]

Yeah, we've got. Think about all the Reddit stories you've heard this year and how many of them are firmly planted on the naughty list.

[Amanda]

Almost a lot.

[Tommy]

Yeah. A lot.

[Morgan]

Yeah, There's a few that I think are slipping through the cracks right now. So we're gonna. We're gonna see where they end up.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Amanda]

I'm excited.

[Tommy]

Are we gonna. Do we. Do we say naughty or nice after you?

[Morgan]

Sure can.

[Tommy]

Okay. Cause sometimes halfway through you're like, naughty.

[Morgan]

Well then you get a couple comments or even an update and then you're like, mm, so true.

[Tommy]

The update really changes things.

[Amanda]

It really does. It can shift everything.

[Morgan]

It does. But let's dive in.

[Amanda]

Yay. Yay.

[Morgan]

Okay, this first one for us coming from Amathe asshole, 22 days old now titled Am I the Asshole for Telling my Sister in Law, she shouldn't have a Christmas tree.

[Tommy]

Oh, okay, okay. Fun.

[Morgan]

My brother's wife works from home. My brother works in an office. He does the household chores, cooks, and takes the kids to and from school. He told us that's part of why they're not doing Thanksgiving and they most likely won't do a traditional Christmas either. Sister in law was pissed and said she'll do the tree. I said, I don't think you should. She asked me why. I said, considering my brother will be working and you'll be home, no one is going to watch those kids. They have a history of tearing shit up. She went quiet and everyone else kept talking. A mutual friend called me up and said I shouldn't have gotten involved. My nephews do have a history of getting hurt and breaking things when they're home. Without my brother, though, am I the asshole?

[Tommy]

Okay. Without her brother. So she's kind of saying, don't focus on the tree because then who's gonna watch your kids?

[Morgan]

Watch your kids?

[Tommy]

So she essentially just gave a huge dig to her sister in law.

[Amanda]

Right?

[Morgan]

Like big dig, basically, you're incapable of taking care of your children.

[Tommy]

In my opinion, that is having two sisters with kids commenting on their parenting is just. No, you just don't do it.

[Amanda]

You can't comment on someone's parenting.

[Tommy]

And if they want. If she wants a tree, she's going to get a tree.

[Amanda]

Also, why are these kids tearing down a tree that seems.

[Morgan]

You think they would like it? What are they cats?

[Tommy]

Are they two boys?

[Morgan]

Are they cats?

[Amanda]

They're trying to get to the star on top.

[Morgan]

I mean, to be called, like, you're so incapable of parenting that you can't even get a Christmas tree up. Like, that's a low blow.

[Tommy]

But also I wanna know, have they never had a Christmas tree up or. They did once and it was torn down.

[Amanda]

The whole house disintegrated because of that tree.

[Tommy]

What?

[Morgan]

I wonder.

[Tommy]

This is Christmas vacation.

[Morgan]

Christmas trees used to start a lot of house fires. I think that stat's gone down.

[Amanda]

Well, it's because they were using real hot lights.

[Morgan]

Okay, so before we started today, we were talking about the lights. So I got, if you're listening, you gotta go watch on YouTube just to see the lights. But these bulbs get hot. And I'm like, people put these on their houses. And Tommy was like, yeah, well, it's concrete. And I go, but what if it hit a leaf?

[Tommy]

No, seriously, it would leave. It could. What if an animal went up there, scratched it, popped it open and then Completely blew up.

[Morgan]

They're glass. Like I was banging them about back here, getting them set up, and then I was so scared because I got a jute rug over there that's basically straw and I had the extras on the ground. I'm like, this is gonna burn a hole. We're gonna start on fire.

[Tommy]

No. Christmas is a very dangerous holiday.

[Morgan]

I can't let that happen to Tommy and Amanda.

[Tommy]

No, thank you.

[Amanda]

I appreciate that.

[Tommy]

Yeah, we can't burn yet. Not yet. Not yet.

[Amanda]

Is this person an asshole?

[Tommy]

Are they on the naughty or nice list?

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I personally think they're being a little naughty just because it's like, shouldn't have gotten involved. It's clear that they had stuff they wanted to say.

[Morgan]

Yeah, they have feelings.

[Tommy]

They have feelings.

[Amanda]

It feels like something where it's like those things maybe, like could or should be said. Maybe. But like maybe in a nice way and maybe not during the holidays when everything's already stressful.

[Tommy]

Oh, yeah.

[Amanda]

So it feels just like everyone lost in this situation.

[Tommy]

100%.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Like she lost like that. What are you going to do with your sister in law? It's going to be so awkward.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I'm getting the vibe that OP doesn't really like sister in law.

[Amanda]

No.

[Morgan]

On a baseline, vibes are probably true. We do have a lot of comments from.

[Tommy]

Okay, I bet we do.

[Morgan]

Yeah. This is not an isolated behavior. They act like this in front of people. Referring to brother and sister in law, kind of bickering a lot.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

But people are like, if your brother's taking care of the kids and doing school drop offs, like, what does she do? She just works.

[Amanda]

She just works.

[Tommy]

And there's some. And okay.

[Morgan]

But she. So she has a job and that is their relationship that they've defined for themselves. I don't hear a brother complaining.

[Amanda]

He also works.

[Morgan]

He also works.

[Tommy]

He also works.

[Amanda]

So he's working and doing extra stuff, huh?

[Tommy]

Oh, she just sees the sister in law is not doing anything.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

She's not in their house 24, 7 or in their marriage.

[Morgan]

No. He works a normal job, but takes a late lunch to get the kids, go home and then return to work. It's the time before school and after when they're tearing things up.

[Tommy]

I see what's happening. The brother is complaining to the sister.

[Morgan]

You think?

[Tommy]

Yes.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy]

Because how does she know all this information? How does she know all these small details? And that sounds like something he would say. She just works. She works all the time.

[Amanda]

So he needs to have a conversation with his Spouse.

[Tommy]

That's what I'm feeling. Because how does she know all of this information?

[Morgan]

Yeah, well, and it's apparent that the sister in law is very aware of it. Sister in law doesn't see a problem in their arrangement. Her and kids admit he cooks, cleans, takes out garbage and takes them everywhere. Once she said to another family member, quote, if I don't chauffeur, my son's around, why do you think I'd drive you around? Someone might have asked her for a ride.

[Amanda]

Got it.

[Tommy]

Okay. There's so much going on here.

[Amanda]

I feel like there's, like, I'm missing a little ingredient of this entire family dynamic.

[Tommy]

Someone's not talking.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Someone's not saying something that's really happening.

[Morgan]

Sister in law told a friend she does nothing. Doesn't clean, doesn't make meals. Brother has offered to pay for a babysitter. He's gone as far as using his savings to pay for a babysitter.

[Tommy]

Oh.

[Amanda]

And so she's like. She's like, yeah, that's right. I don't work. And he's gonna. Right.

[Tommy]

What is she bragging about?

[Morgan]

Weird going on?

[Tommy]

Is he like a daddy? Like, is he have all the money? And she's just.

[Morgan]

I don't.

[Tommy]

Cruising.

[Morgan]

But she's working. Like, she's just working. Like, she's. She's doing something.

[Tommy]

Just working.

[Amanda]

She's just working.

[Tommy]

What?

[Amanda]

Like, maybe she's the. The money.

[Morgan]

Maybe she. Trust fund.

[Amanda]

Maybe she's the money.

[Tommy]

Oh, maybe she's the money. And she's like, I'm making all the.

[Amanda]

Money, so you better do all the. Yeah.

[Tommy]

I feel that's between them.

[Morgan]

It's still between them. Right.

[Amanda]

They should figure that out.

[Morgan]

And I get like, my brother has children and they're amazing. I love them. But, you know, like, when they're like, they're not your kids, you can't say anything. But other people, maybe they go, like, desensitized to it or they don't even notice anymore, but their kids are kind of running around or, you know, spinning in the middle of a walkway. Yep. You know, and you're just like. You're like, hey, no, no, no, no. Come over here and do this. But the parents just like, they're. They're chill, they're blase, whatever that word is about it. I wonder if that's kind of what's going on with the mom here. Because, like, what OP describes as, like, unsafe behavior is just kind of like normal kids things.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, she just sits around when her kids do Unsafe things in front of people. Well, what are they doing? Running around, being loud. They did try to open a window, and when OP asked why, they said, for fun. And then they did try to throw something out of the window. But, you know.

[Amanda]

So they're just being kids.

[Tommy]

They're just being kids.

[Amanda]

Maybe.

[Morgan]

Well, maybe that's what I'm kind of getting. And some people just don't know how to deal with kids.

[Amanda]

Yeah. It's like, my friend has a new baby. Well, he's not new. He's like, one and change.

[Morgan]

But that's a big baby.

[Amanda]

Yeah, it's a big baby, but it's the whole thing of, like, oh, they'll just. They'll let him, like, run and then fall over and then start crying. And then they'll, like. You know, they'll like, look and go, he's fine. And then he'll be like, meh. And then look at them and go, I'm fine. I'm like, keep going. You know? So maybe it's that kind of thing where it's like, I don't have kids. So he falls over, and I'm like. And it's actually just fine. And so maybe OP Just doesn't get.

[Tommy]

I think it's actually better for the kids to not react so intensely because that's. They have to fall and learn. Like, oh, that hurt.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Okay. It's like when kids are like, I want to go outside without my shoes. You're like, okay, okay. And then halfway through, like, I want to get my shoes on. You're like, I know. Then we go get your shoes.

[Morgan]

What's that? That's like gentle parenting.

[Tommy]

Gentle parenting.

[Morgan]

Or like Montessori. You let them figure it out.

[Tommy]

Yeah, it's like.

[Morgan]

It feels like fafo parenting.

[Tommy]

What's fafo?

[Morgan]

Fuck around and find out.

[Amanda]

Oh, that's good.

[Tommy]

Yeah, it's like.

[Morgan]

Yeah, it's like when a kid is.

[Tommy]

Like, buttoning their shirt, they're like, just let them do it.

[Morgan]

And they're like, oh, it's painful to watch.

[Tommy]

Painful to watch. But it's also like, yeah, takes a lot of patience.

[Morgan]

Where do we think the comments went on this one? Overall vote. What are we thinking?

[Amanda]

I feel, like, naughty. Just because it's none of your business.

[Tommy]

Yeah. I also feel like the comments were confused. Like, us. Yeah, the comments were like, what's. What is actually happening here?

[Morgan]

There's a lot of missing info. Top comment, though. You're the asshole.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Morgan]

But also, this doesn't seem like a tree problem. If the kids are so wild that they would hurt themselves or destroy a Christmas tree without supervision. How do they survive the rest of the year?

[Tommy]

Right, Right. They're probably fine, but also, I mean, they're still alive.

[Amanda]

Like, they're still alive.

[Morgan]

They're still out there. House hasn't burned.

[Tommy]

I'm feeling like the brother is talking shit.

[Amanda]

Although every tree within a mile of the home has been destroyed.

[Tommy]

It's been lit up. The kids are just in the back, like, wow, this feels a bit naughty.

[Morgan]

Yeah, stay out of it. Keep out of other people's business.

[Tommy]

Literally.

[Morgan]

Literally.

[Tommy]

Is there an update?

[Morgan]

No update. OP is pretty active. Bunch of other subreddits, you know, they're going on commenting things, but no update about the tree or if they got one.

[Amanda]

We'll just have to go to their home and find out.

[Tommy]

Yeah, we're going to have to find out. And the kids are going to be running around screaming, opening a window.

[Morgan]

I don't know. Just. I'm overstimulated already.

[Amanda]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[Morgan]

It's a lot.

[Tommy]

It's a lot.

[Morgan]

This next one is also a lot.

[Tommy]

Oh, it's exciting.

[Morgan]

It's also a lot. So this is coming From a I T H 23 days old titled Peed my pants. My boyfriend wouldn't help me.

[Amanda]

Oof. Okay, okay. Have you peed your pants before? Yes, I have also peed my pants before.

[Morgan]

Yes, I did, but I was really lucky and I was wearing a skirt, so I just peed your leg. Yeah, Like, I squatted in the skirt, like on the sidewalk. And then when I got to the house party, I just took off my tights and underwear and I was good to go.

[Tommy]

Oh, that's perfect.

[Morgan]

It was like the ideal way to pee your pants.

[Tommy]

The worst peeing your pants is when you're wearing jeans.

[Amanda]

Oh.

[Morgan]

Because they're so soggy and hard to get off. I'm just like, I've. I've never peed jeans, but, like, you know, wet pants.

[Tommy]

I haven't. I don't think I have peed jeans either.

[Amanda]

But peach shorts, which are your. Not also not the best. No.

[Morgan]

Were they shorts?

[Tommy]

Shorts?

[Amanda]

They weren't jorts, luckily, but they were shorts. So, you know, they get wet and then also you get wet. Anyway.

[Morgan]

Anyway, anyways. So I had a vaginal birth nearly three years ago, and since then I've had stress incontinence. Today I was in class and I was taking an exam. I had to pee so bad, but couldn't leave until the exam was done.

[Tommy]

That's illegal.

[Morgan]

When I finally finished, I peed my pants and it leaked as I went to the bathroom. I refused to leave the bathroom until I had another outfit and my boyfriend refused to help me. I asked him to buy me sweats from the university gift shop, and he refused at first until I sent him money for them. I asked to borrow. He then said he wanted me to walk to the restroom door. And I said, my pants are covered in pee. There's no way I can do that. And he said, he's not walking into the women's restroom. I told him to hand it to a girl walking in. He wouldn't. He eventually left them outside the door to the restroom, and I had to walk out in pee pants. I'm furious with him. Do I have a right to be?

[Amanda]

No. Imagine I'm like, no, he doesn't love you, obviously.

[Tommy]

No.

[Amanda]

Like, that's crazy.

[Tommy]

No, he does not.

[Morgan]

No.

[Tommy]

It wouldn't even be a second thought if he did. Like, yeah, just go get the pants. That's it.

[Morgan]

It's so easy.

[Amanda]

It's so easy.

[Tommy]

She'll pay you back.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Or not.

[Amanda]

Have her buy a dinner next time you go out. Like, it's like, what?

[Tommy]

I get it. University sweatpants might be expensive. They might be, like, $100.

[Morgan]

They're raking money.

[Amanda]

There's probably $60 sweatpants. So just, I mean, hey, now you have nice sweatpants.

[Tommy]

Was. Was he the one. Was he the baby daddy?

[Morgan]

No mention of that. Which makes me think.

[Tommy]

So think.

[Morgan]

No. But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was. And that was just context that Opie left out because. Do you guys ever see that story where the guy was like, my roommate wants me to take care of her baby, and he was the dad?

[Tommy]

Oh, no.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

So people could be enraged by that story.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I wanted to hit him with a car. Like, it was. It was bad. But I'm like, now I'm really curious, like, if. If that is boyfriend. Baby daddy. Like, dude, this problem is also because of you, bitch.

[Tommy]

Like, literally.

[Morgan]

What? And it's so simple. Like, it doesn't have to be this awkward thing. It's like, it's pee. Like, did you guys see the Muppets trend that's going around Right now on TikTok, where people share Muppets to the Madonna, like, a prayer song, and they share these, like, horrendous stories?

[Amanda]

It's the. Is it. Is it beaker, Right? Or one of the.

[Morgan]

It's the orange hair. And he's like, yeah, there's like, an olive Oil story where this girl had, like, really, like, hay, like, hair. So she wrapped olive oil on her head. And then as she was walking out to the garage, her olive oil had dripped. She slipped, blacked out. The garage lights shut off because they were on a timer. So when she came back in, her family had already gone to sleep and set the girl, like, the house alarm. So she set the alarm off, and the alarm was blaring.

[Tommy]

What?

[Morgan]

And then she goes up to her room, and as she's laying back down to go to bed, she sees two people coming up to the door. And she goes, oh, my God, I have to wake up my dad again because they're robbing my house. What the hell? Turns out it was cops.

[Amanda]

Because she set the alarm off.

[Morgan]

Because she set the alarm off.

[Tommy]

All because of her olive oil.

[Amanda]

All because of her olive oil.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Which muppet is that?

[Amanda]

I think it's Beaker. I think it's him. What the f. Anyway, it's just like a.

[Tommy]

That is the craziest story I've ever heard.

[Morgan]

So I'll send it to you. You'll get it. But. So people are telling these crazy stories to this meme on a sideshow. And this one I saw was this lady being like. We went on our honeymoon to the Chilean mountains, and I was prepared for altitude. I had all the meds. I was ready to go, but my stomach wasn't. And we're on this bus and we're going through the tunnels, and all of a sudden, I felt it. And there's no bathroom on the bus.

[Amanda]

No, there's not. No.

[Tommy]

And probably not for hours.

[Morgan]

So I grabbed a plastic bag and I instructed my husband to hold it underneath me like a toilet. And I proceeded to shit in that bag. And everyone on the bus heard me. Cause it was in the open. And slowly but surely, people were passing back diapers and wipes for me.

[Amanda]

That's awesome.

[Morgan]

And I'm still happily married. And so I'm like. I hear that. I'm like, he held a bag.

[Tommy]

A bag. I heard a shit.

[Morgan]

As she waterfalled out of her in a public bus. And this guy can't even bring sweatpants.

[Tommy]

Just walk into the woman's bathroom, just open the door and go, is there anyone else in here? No. Okay.

[Amanda]

Or being like, hey, my wife had a little accident coming in with some sweatpants. Bing bong, you know, Like, Yeah.

[Tommy]

But clearly he is not comfortable with himself. He does not want, and he does not love her.

[Morgan]

She wouldn't even give it to a girl outside the door.

[Tommy]

That was so weird.

[Amanda]

So these people are in college?

[Morgan]

Yes.

[Amanda]

Okay, girly pop, there's better people. You're young.

[Tommy]

Oh my God. You're young.

[Amanda]

Let him be. Leave him behind.

[Tommy]

Doesn't matter. Young or old, let him go.

[Amanda]

Exactly.

[Morgan]

I know. Baby is amazing. Had baby at 17. I'm not seeing if he's the baby daddy. I'm so curious.

[Tommy]

Me too. But also, it's worse if he is. I, I, I agree.

[Amanda]

It's all bad.

[Morgan]

He's 19, I'm 20.

[Tommy]

Oh, he's just, he's just an insecure boy.

[Amanda]

He's like, I don't want.

[Tommy]

Oh, yeah, Well, I don't have any money to get shot. Pants.

[Morgan]

You pissed your pants.

[Tommy]

That's so weird and so embarrassing.

[Amanda]

Stupid.

[Morgan]

I'm not, I don't think baby daddy.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I don't.

[Tommy]

I'm fine with that.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Oh, I think you gotta break up. This isn't your person.

[Tommy]

So he's, he's naughty. She's nice.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Guaranteed. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah, she's nice.

[Morgan]

Mm. She just peed herself.

[Tommy]

Any update? Did she walk out of there with her sweatpants?

[Morgan]

No update? No.

[Tommy]

It's hard to have the option of an update. Cause I get really attached to it.

[Morgan]

Mm. You know, me too.

[Tommy]

I get really attached.

[Morgan]

Me too.

[Tommy]

Then I'm like, I just have to know that that story exists and never.

[Amanda]

Hear anything ever again from it.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Very hard.

[Morgan]

Don't you love when it, like the story gets out there and then they see it and they're like, I saw my story on TikTok. So here's the update. Yeah, it happens. It happens all the time.

[Amanda]

And how was the rest of your day with, with the sweatpants?

[Tommy]

Wow. I need to see those, that info. I need to see those. There are updates I need to see from like past Reddit stories.

[Amanda]

So many.

[Morgan]

I have an amazing, amazing little helper that's put together like a Google spreadsheet for us, which you guys probably do with like all the producers you guys have. Like, you probably have like Kiana probably has it going already, I'm sure. Yeah, but one of my, my Patreon family members like did a whole spreadsheet and so they've gone back and looked for every story I've ever read. And then now they're putting the updates if there's an update in the another colum.

[Amanda]

Amazing.

[Morgan]

So my goal, 2025. I'm going back and I'm gonna like, really pop off with a follow up album I love.

[Tommy]

Wait, that's amazing. A whole update that See, I would be obsessed with that whole update episode.

[Amanda]

Yes, tune it in for that one.

[Morgan]

Yeah. You want an update? Yes, I'll give you an update.

[Tommy]

What?

[Morgan]

On this next one.

[Amanda]

Oh, okay.

[Tommy]

I was like, give it to me. Okay. So so far we have two naughties.

[Morgan]

Two naughties.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Two naughties.

[Tommy]

Christmas time.

[Morgan]

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[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Amanda]

There is a movie.

[Morgan]

Cujo.

[Amanda]

I'm just gonna say no, I forget what it's. There's a. It's a. It's a. It's a foreign film, quote unquote. But then it was redone with Julia Louis Dreyfus and Will Ferrell for like, the American version. Anyway, I forget the name of it, but basically in this movie, a avalanche comes down.

[Tommy]

I know what you're talking about.

[Amanda]

Right? And then the dad, like, runs away because he's like, oh my God. And then the mom just like covers her kids and then like Nothing really happens. And so the rest of the movie, she's like, you ran away from us.

[Tommy]

That actor's from Game of Thrones, that.

[Amanda]

Guy, the original actor.

[Tommy]

Nordic or Norwegian or something. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Anyway. And instantly thought of that. And I'm like, you can't. It is hard to recover from running away from danger and leaving your loved ones behind.

[Tommy]

It's hard. I also think something happened with my friend and I. We were walking downtown and a rat ran. A guy, like, opened a door to throw away trash. And she was wearing open toed, really cute shoes, whatever. And we were like, arms crossed, and the rat, like, the guy opened the door, put the trash in the thing and it must have been like, no. And it ran straight for her foot and went on her foot and bitch, I left her ass. I unhooked my arm so fast and I ran straight.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

And she was standing there going, you just left me While that rat, like put its whole body on my foot.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And I was like, there's something about rats, dude. They're.

[Tommy]

I couldn't control my instinct. I mean, don't get me wrong, if it was like my child and a dog attack.

[Morgan]

Right.

[Amanda]

That feels a little different.

[Tommy]

Probably different, but that did happen.

[Morgan]

Well, here, let's get into this one.

[Amanda]

Let's do it.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Trigger warning, animal attack. I'm going to start with this. I'm still a bit traumatized and I will be finding someone to talk to. And a friend has made this account for me because I'm not a frequenter. Don't know if the pit bull made it. I haven't asked. My husband and his niece and nephew and I were in our backyard. I'm going to assume our gate was open. I can't remember it. The dog came out of nowhere and latched on to his niece. Five female.

[Amanda]

Oh, no.

[Morgan]

Niece screamed. I turned, kicked it with all the force I could manage. I was lucky enough to hit it in the jaw somewhere that it made it dislodge. My husband, who had been a few feet away, shouted something along the lines of, whose dog is this? I told him to get our bear spray from the house. I was in a panic. I am an animal lover. But it was so insane, the dog almost seemed rabid. I don't think it was in hindsight. It wasn't foaming at the mouth. It was just crazed.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

My husband ran, but not towards the house. He literally ran out of the fenced gate and then shut it behind him.

[Amanda]

Oh, good. That's good.

[Morgan]

Not towards his niece or nephew who Was also present in an outdoor bassinet that I managed to all but toss onto the picnic table to make sure it was out of the dog's reach.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

While holding his niece off my shoulder, I put her on the barbecue to keep her out of reach. But the dog was literally jumping and snapping, and I was worried that if I tried to carry her. I'm short. It would manage to grab her out of my hands. It chased me when I ran for the shovel, but then I swung at it. I don't think I will ever forget that sound or feeling. It was so high stress, I didn't even realize that it had bit me twice.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

I haven't spoken to him for a full week. Even though we live in the same house. I didn't ask where he went. He only came back a few minutes later to pack us into the car and drive us to the hospital. He's getting angry that I'm giving him the silent treatment, but I feel like it's his fault that I had to possibly end that animal. If he had gotten the bear spray. I literally keep it in my purse for if I'm ever attacked by an animal or otherwise, Then I don't think I would have needed to do what I did. It was literally just inside the door. He knows where I keep it.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

Instead, he literally took off to God knows where. Me and two children that I'm not even related to could have died. It might not even be relevant. But I don't even like kids. I am staunchly child free.

[Amanda]

I love that.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Morgan]

And he is the one that offered us up to babysit for the weekend. I don't know. Is this grounds for divorce? I'm not sure I can even look at him. Any attraction I had to him is pretty much gone. He tried to touch me yesterday just to move me so he could pass, and I smacked his hand away without even thinking about it like he was some stranger at a bar because it was literally jarring. He's been sulking around trying to talk to me and then getting frustrated and then sulking more. I wasn't expecting him to be macho and fist fight the freaking dog, but at least follow instructions. At least not leave me in a life and death situation with a toddler and an infant. Should I be able to chalk this up to the moment of panic? I don't even know if I want to hear him out.

[Amanda]

Whoa. Whoa.

[Tommy]

This is awful.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Terrible.

[Amanda]

There was a line in there where she said that she put the. The little girl on the barbecue. And I was like, don't do that. The dog's gonna love that.

[Tommy]

I know. I was like, huh?

[Amanda]

I was like, no, not on the barbecue. Not the sauce. I wish I could know what he was thinking, because that's crazy to do.

[Tommy]

To shut the door on them. Also, like, that. That just shows, like, where his mind was at. Like, he ran, but to shut the door.

[Amanda]

I feel like he was. Because him shouting, whose dog is this? I feel like he's, like, looking for the owner to, like, call the dog off or something. But it's like, that's not the logic to use at that point when there's an actual attack happening.

[Tommy]

Like, that is so, so scary that. That I've seen dog attacks happen. I have definitely, like, had a dog that has been in the middle of an attack that I had to, like, immediately get involved in. And I know some people, like, don't get involved. You'll get bit. And it's like, well, my. I don't want my dog to be ripped to shreds.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Right?

[Tommy]

And it's like. I agree. I. I would say that she just needs some time. I would definitely want to hear him out.

[Amanda]

Yeah, you should hear him.

[Tommy]

But I would feel. Yeah. Unattracted. And. And like, God, like, she should not be in the same house right now.

[Morgan]

I. I think, like, a separation period might be good. Like, therapy and then, like, separation. But would, like, would where he went make or break it? Like, would that change it for you? Like, because I'm like, for me, I'm like, where did he go? And then why did he shut the gate? Like, don't you want the dog to maybe go out the gate and, like, follow you? I was, like, walking my horse a couple weeks ago, and someone had their dog off leash, and of course the dog sees a horse and goes nuts.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it wasn't a huge dog, but it's still, like, like, coming at me. And my first instinct was to, like, literally go, like, at the dog to scare the fuck out.

[Tommy]

Of course. Because your horse could definitely be for protection. Kill that dog easily.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Which they have if they're off leash.

[Amanda]

Yeah. And you don't want to kill a dog.

[Morgan]

I do not know.

[Amanda]

You don't want to kill a dog.

[Morgan]

No. So I'm like. And then it's like, you. You literally, your wife, your person is there with your niece and nephew, one of which is a baby in a bassinet.

[Tommy]

Yeah. That really freaked me out.

[Morgan]

And it's like, there's two of you. You and your wife, there's two kids. Like you're. You're abandoning her. And then like this is literally one against the dog with two things to protect. Like, where is there? And I get people panic, but at the same time, like, then go get the bear spray that she just told you to get.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Morgan]

Where. Where did you go? Where did you go?

[Amanda]

There's no correct. Like there's like no answer.

[Tommy]

But that makes I get like trying to find somebody. But in that moment she's totally by herself. Also, I would love to know what the parents of these kids did or felt when they learned that. Cuz one of them's the brother. Right? Right. The parents are related to the husband.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Not sure which one.

[Tommy]

Like what do they say? They're like, thank God for your wife who doesn't like children. Saved them.

[Morgan]

I know that comment. Like I don't even like kids.

[Tommy]

It's like, yeah, but they're also kids. Right there. You're of course.

[Amanda]

I mean, a cool takeaway is this. The OP is like strong as hell. She just, she just learned so much about herself where she's like, oh, in a situation, I can like, I can step up to the plate.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And he can't.

[Morgan]

And she did. She honestly like that instinct because not everyone. That was like a total like fight versus like freeze or fawn. Like that was like her survival mode. She acted so quickly.

[Tommy]

She did.

[Morgan]

And thank God because those little kids.

[Tommy]

Like, oh yeah, I can't even.

[Morgan]

It's just, it's crazy. So, top comment. If it makes you feel better, that dog would have been considered dangerous and put down either way.

[Tommy]

Correct.

[Morgan]

You defended yourself and the children from an unprovoked attack. You were so courageous and saved the kids lives. Be proud of yourself.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Love this person commenting.

[Amanda]

Great comment.

[Morgan]

I know OP responds. I know that consciously, I think, but thank you for saying that because I just feel so terrible. Someone goes out of curiosity, what does his family think of this? Because you said that these are your niece and nephew from his side. What did the parents of the kids think about this?

[Tommy]

Yes.

[Morgan]

I'm not seeing a response from OP in the direct thread, but let me go to the account and see if we find anything.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Because that is such a good question. Like, I would never trust my brother with my kids again.

[Tommy]

Never.

[Morgan]

Never.

[Tommy]

Has he even said sorry?

[Morgan]

Not based on that initial post.

[Amanda]

Seems like he hasn't. Seems like he's just moping around being like, well, I did the wrong thing, I guess.

[Tommy]

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you did there's.

[Morgan]

No comments expanding on that from OP about what family thinks.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Huh. Interesting.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Someone goes, he absolutely might do it again. Would you feel differently if he told you that he was bitten by a dog when he was small and he just couldn't stop himself from running away?

[Tommy]

That's not a bad point.

[Morgan]

I would say dog trauma, which a lot of people have.

[Tommy]

People have dog trauma, and when they see a dog, they run. They. No matter what.

[Amanda]

It's hard when there's literal children being currently presently attacked. It's really hard to.

[Tommy]

And your wife.

[Amanda]

Yeah, it's really hard.

[Morgan]

Well and ready for this context.

[Tommy]

Oh, God.

[Morgan]

OP Responds.

[Tommy]

The blanket.

[Morgan]

No, I wouldn't really seen. As I was attacked pretty badly by a dog when I was 10 or 11. See, I still have scars on my thigh. I still like dogs. And I would like to think I still reacted appropriately in this situation. Those kids could have died.

[Tommy]

They would have been dead.

[Morgan]

I could barely stomach explaining his niece's injuries to his sister. I was bawling, apologizing that I didn't do more. I can't imagine if something worse had happened.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

I can't imagine being a sister. Wow.

[Morgan]

Oh, so it is his sister, then. His sister, yeah. Sister.

[Tommy]

Ooh. Oh, she's never.

[Amanda]

Yeah, that's. Wow. Damn. You disappointed your wife and your family.

[Tommy]

Disappointed two women, your sister and your wife.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

You're fucked.

[Morgan]

Yeah. We used to camp. I trusted he would react appropriately. He also doesn't have any childhood incidents regarding animals that I know of. I was attacked by a German shepherd pretty badly. But I still like dogs. So, like, out of all the people that could have reacted poorly in this situation, it was probably O.P.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Also, they camp. They must live in a place where there's bears. If she has bear spray.

[Morgan]

Bear spray.

[Tommy]

So, like, what is he gonna do when a bear comes up?

[Morgan]

Oh, he's fetal position.

[Tommy]

Yeah, for sure. It's done. He's not going to save you.

[Morgan]

Which, like. What's that saying? If it's brown, shut it down. Don't.

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Tommy]

I just.

[Amanda]

I just made brown.

[Tommy]

Shut it down.

[Morgan]

If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down. But there's a bear one too.

[Amanda]

Because I know with bear, like, bears you're supposed to, like, get as big as them and be like. And then they, like, freak out.

[Morgan]

So they. Yeah. Oh, my God. I saw a video of the photographers where they scare away a big grizzly by being loud. I shit my pants.

[Amanda]

Yeah, it's really hard.

[Tommy]

Seems terrifying.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Although the bear safety rhyme. If it's brown, lay down if it's black, fight back if it's white. Good night. Sounds like good advice. You have to know why a bear is attacking you before you can decide the best way to respond.

[Amanda]

There you go.

[Tommy]

Why are you attacking me?

[Amanda]

Why are you encountering a polar bear? That's my question.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I would like to know that.

[Morgan]

I want to see one so bad.

[Amanda]

Oh, that'd be great.

[Morgan]

You can go on polar bear rides in Manitoba. Just right in Canada.

[Amanda]

You can ride on a polar bear.

[Morgan]

Could you imagine it didn't sound like that.

[Amanda]

I know, I know.

[Morgan]

Obviously imagine you go on a bus, but they can climb in the windows and you just like see their little face. You've never seen it.

[Tommy]

They see a little face smashing through the glass. I don't think I would lay down if I saw a brown bear. But maybe, maybe that's good advice.

[Morgan]

I think I'd have to run either way.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I don't think I'd be laying down for a day.

[Tommy]

Lay down. Just lay down and let them smell you. No, no, no, no.

[Amanda]

Although I don't. I probably will never encounter a bear in my life.

[Morgan]

I think you need to try this polar bear ride. Look how fun this looks.

[Amanda]

I'm not outside enough.

[Morgan]

Look at this.

[Amanda]

Oh my God.

[Morgan]

Yeah, you could handle that.

[Amanda]

Whoa. I've never seen a vehicle that's a big vehicle.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And then look at this one.

[Tommy]

Monster truck wheels.

[Morgan]

It's so cool.

[Amanda]

Like a five year old me would love that.

[Tommy]

Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

[Morgan]

I think you could really handle this. Look at how. Excuse you. Google image. Look at this one. You can get so close to them.

[Amanda]

Oh. And you're like just out of reach so that they can't bite your head.

[Morgan]

Yeah, no, they could swipe, but you're still good.

[Amanda]

Oh, that's cool. So I can give them a high five?

[Morgan]

Yeah, this is on my list.

[Tommy]

Oh, so cute.

[Morgan]

That's on my list. So you can handle that. But. Okay, back to this one.

[Tommy]

This is insane.

[Morgan]

Someone goes, and I don't like this comment at all.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Morgan]

But someone goes, why should he have to protect you? Would you protect him?

[Tommy]

She did protect him.

[Amanda]

I feel like that's part of a.

[Tommy]

Who's coming in hot like that.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Is it not part of the part? You're married.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I'm married.

[Amanda]

Wouldn't.

[Tommy]

I would protect each other. I protect my spouse at all costs.

[Morgan]

Would you take a bear for him?

[Tommy]

I probably would. Yeah. I probably would. I have been in, like, fight or flight situations and I've always fought. It's more fought. That's kind of always the case. I feel like he would fight too.

[Morgan]

I'm a bit of a freezer.

[Tommy]

He would never run. No, never run. But I freeze sometimes.

[Morgan]

I'm a freeze. And then once I click back in, I'm like, oh, same. You know, that's normal. Deer in headlights for a second.

[Amanda]

Just for a second while my brain goes, what happened?

[Tommy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Morgan]

Oh, man. So OP responds, I expect us to protect each other, I guess, is what I mean. I didn't expect him to take one for the team. I just expected him to have my back.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Have two humans fight the beast.

[Tommy]

The beast. Exactly.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Morgan]

So we have an update.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. I didn't want to ask.

[Amanda]

I'm so glad the ghost of the dog is back.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. It's like you left her. That was your one chance.

[Amanda]

We need a vacuum.

[Morgan]

My friend said that people update often, but I don't know how to attach it to the other post. I thought I'd update since there had been a few things that kind of happened. Sorry if this is needlessly long and I didn't expect this to get that many comments. And so much kindness. And I want to say I'm sorry to everyone that has experienced anything similar because, my God, it has not been easy for everyone. Worried about my mental health. I did get in through an app with my work yesterday because I decided I really needed it and labeled it high priority. However, it felt like it was just a parliamentary meeting and she said she wanted to get me feeling a bit more comfortable because I was visibly tensing up whenever I started talking about it. She even noticed this through a video chat.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Oh.

[Morgan]

Last night I also told my husband I needed space. I apologize that I don't have more of an update on our relationship than that I wasn't as nice as I wanted to be. He argued and didn't want to leave. It's my house, but I told him I just didn't want to look at him, that I couldn't look at him. He cried and I hate that I felt apathetic towards it. I haven't slept well, so I'm not sure. I'm also just overtired and still shaken, though I was also emotionally exhausted after the appointment, so that probably added to it. I got a few questions about his sister and her husband, so I thought I would answer.

[Amanda]

Yay.

[Morgan]

They aren't speaking with him.

[Amanda]

Yep.

[Tommy]

Knew it.

[Amanda]

Mm.

[Tommy]

Knew it.

[Morgan]

I don't know when it happened. I was definitely out of it at the hospital while I was getting the stitches and everything. But I do think after I was done blubbering and trying to explain how something so terrible happened to their little girl under our watch, they apparently asked him where he was. I still haven't talked to him about where he went, so I don't know. However, it clearly didn't satisfy them.

[Amanda]

Wow. Yeah, I love that.

[Tommy]

Don't mess with their children.

[Morgan]

His niece just got out of the hospital yesterday.

[Tommy]

How long has it been?

[Morgan]

So this update is coming two days after the original post.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

So.

[Amanda]

So this is still very fresh for everybody.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Honestly, there's no. I feel like there's no recovery from this. If. If my. If my partner did this, I'd be like. I'd feel like I can't. If I can't trust you with my life. What can I imagine? If it's your brother, I know. That's even worse.

[Tommy]

Fuck.

[Morgan]

So because she just got discharged, that really triggered everything, and a lot happened. I had sent flowers, a bear, and this one toy thing she's been asking about. I didn't go to the hospital, though. I was scared that seeing me would make her nervous. But his sister and her husband sent me flowers too, and it made me ball again. I'm just a freaking mess, honestly. The father sent me a long message that I haven't been able to get through, but it's the sweetest thing that anyone has ever sent me. He also sent me 1k in a visa gift card. I literally thought I was reading the amount wrong. They are good people. And I still feel terrible that I couldn't have done more for her.

[Tommy]

I mean, she saved their kids lives.

[Amanda]

She's awesome.

[Tommy]

1K and a visa gift card. Okay.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I'm like, let's find me a dog. I need a. I need 1k and a visa card. That'd be great. I'm ready. I'm ready.

[Tommy]

One K and a Visa gift card.

[Morgan]

Obviously, I haven't looked into filing yet, but. But I am not against the idea of it. And it really did help me feel better about wanting a divorce over this. I know fight or flight can't be helped, but now I think I realized that it's okay to not want to be with someone who would leave you behind.

[Amanda]

Yep.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Wow.

[Morgan]

I think I can say I'm a fighter and I want a fighter with me. Maybe he'd be better off with a runner instead, too. Then at least he wouldn't Be leaving someone behind.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Tommy]

Love that she's feeling better.

[Morgan]

Ooh, I don't know. It feels like I'm done, but I'm also just a mess. So right now, I'm just glad I have space. Thank you for everyone making me feel like I wasn't being ridiculous, though I think it always feels like it should be multiple issues that tear a marriage apart, unless it's infidelity or something. And it's like, I know he may not have meant to betray me, but he still did. Whatever his reasoning is. Not sure when I'll be speaking to him, but I will try and update then.

[Amanda]

Wow. Whoa.

[Tommy]

I want that update.

[Morgan]

Let me go to the account. Let me see if anything's been posted since that.

[Tommy]

At first, I was like, there's no way you could divorce someone over this. And then as she was talking and making it real, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. You can.

[Amanda]

I guess I wouldn't feel comfortable anymore.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I mean, that's.

[Amanda]

Oh, God. Get with the runner and the sibling together.

[Tommy]

I can't handle the sister thing.

[Amanda]

Love that so much.

[Morgan]

I mean, I don't think I'd be able to talk to my sibling either. Like, oh, yeah, no, accidents happen, and, like, that's the risk. Like, I mean, kids, like, you can't keep them in a bubble. That's just, like, you can reality. Like, accidents happen, but, like, he left and didn't come back for minutes and didn't come back with the bear spray.

[Amanda]

Right?

[Morgan]

Like, he did nothing. He negatively impacted this situation.

[Tommy]

Yeah, he did. And he caused more trauma to his wife, who had to, you know, act. I wouldn't even think of getting a shovel.

[Amanda]

Good for her, dude.

[Morgan]

It's just crazy. Yeah. No further updates from OP No. No knowledge if, you know, they filed for divorce or anything, but. Yeah.

[Tommy]

Whoa. Okay.

[Amanda]

She's nice.

[Tommy]

She's nice. And he is. And he's now T. Now T. Now T. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Definitely.

[Amanda]

Unbelievable.

[Morgan]

Unbelievable. But so glad little kids are okay. I just. Dogs, you know, you just never know. Like, the animals are still animals, and it's just a risk. I got trampled by my horse a couple months ago.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

Trampled?

[Morgan]

Yeah. I had a very intrusive thought. It was definitely a me thing. I thought, this is really dumb.

[Tommy]

What?

[Morgan]

I had the bright idea to crawl underneath him.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Like, I treated him like a bridge, and I ducked underneath, and he got a little freaked out, and he went with his back legs, and I just got kicked.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. Are you okay? Jesus.

[Morgan]

Oh, yeah. But I Was bruised for at least eight weeks.

[Tommy]

I feel like that. Could have broken bones, done some crazy stuff.

[Morgan]

Yeah, no, I got really lucky, and I literally. I flew out the next morning for a live show. And so I forget what city it was, but I showed them my bruises. I like, literally, like, pulled my shirt down on stage, and they go. The whole crowd, like an audible gas. I was like, I know.

[Tommy]

You're like, I know. I'll cover these back up.

[Morgan]

My knees were like. It was like I got dragged down the road from getting, like, pounded into the dirt, and my pants were, like, sticking to my legs. I had, like, pull my pants off my, like, legs.

[Amanda]

Oh, no.

[Morgan]

It was really bad.

[Tommy]

Literally awful.

[Amanda]

That's crazy.

[Morgan]

So I'm like. Yeah. I'm like, animals are animals.

[Tommy]

You.

[Morgan]

You always have to practice animal handling tactics.

[Tommy]

Always.

[Morgan]

Never be. Never be. Too. Too what?

[Tommy]

Safe?

[Morgan]

Yeah, Too sure. Oh, there we go.

[Tommy]

Never be too sure. Like, don't have a chimpanzee in your place.

[Amanda]

Oh, well.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Well, that's a given.

[Tommy]

Oh, that's fine.

[Morgan]

What was that one lady that just came out, Tonka, she had a monkey.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Yeah. From the.

[Morgan]

What's. What's going on there?

[Tommy]

I never watched Chimp Crazy.

[Amanda]

I watched it, and it went in and out of my brain. She had the. She had a chimpanzee. She said that he died. He wasn't dead. She was keeping him in a home.

[Morgan]

Because she didn't want them to take him.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Did he ruin her face? Did he do.

[Amanda]

No, that's a different woman.

[Tommy]

No, I. I remember that woman.

[Morgan]

Oh, my God.

[Amanda]

That was awful.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

That's crazy.

[Morgan]

The face transplant is such a medical, like, marvel to me.

[Amanda]

So cool.

[Morgan]

It's so cool. Absolutely amazing.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Morgan]

Okay, moving along.

[Amanda]

I, unfortunately, really have to pee.

[Morgan]

All my God.

[Amanda]

Is that something I can do?

[Morgan]

You actually have to pee yourself on that couch. Okay, well, just like the girl, the.

[Amanda]

Second time I peed myself and I am wearing jeans.

[Morgan]

And then I'm going to refuse to hand you sweatpants that I go buy from the bookstore.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God, you hate me.

[Morgan]

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[Amanda]

Yeah, it's great. I didn't realize how much the P conversation really got me. Ready?

[Tommy]

Got you triggered.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I do have one P story, but I think we're gonna save it.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Yeah, we're gonna move on to this one. Cause I'm a little mixed on this one.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

I'm a little mixed.

[Tommy]

I like a little mixed.

[Morgan]

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what we think. So this is coming from aith one day old titled Am I the asshole for accidentally letting my sister in law get chemical burns on her face?

[Tommy]

Oh, what's the deal with the sister in laws? People do not like their sister in laws.

[Morgan]

You know, It's a tough, tough gig. Tough world out here.

[Amanda]

Letting her get interesting.

[Tommy]

Letting her interesting chemical burns which like.

[Morgan]

On your face, that's intense.

[Tommy]

Awful.

[Morgan]

My husband, 26 male, and I, 26 female, bought our first home seven months ago. His younger sister, 16, female, who just got her license, frequently shows up unannounced and has trouble taking no for an answer. Last Friday, she came over after dinner and asked us to stay the night. We agreed since we had no plans, she asked to shower, so we let her use ours. As our guest bathroom isn't stocked yet. I splurge on salon quality hair care products because my hair is unruly and my $27 shampoo bottle was brand new. Later, I found half the shampoo and nearly all the conditioner gone.

[Tommy]

What?

[Amanda]

Huh?

[Morgan]

Along with my skincare scattered across the counter, she had used almost $50 worth of hair products and all of my skin stuff, including my prescription Skincare stored in a pharmacy bag.

[Amanda]

Oh, no.

[Tommy]

Why? Why Half a bottle of shampoo? Damn, girl, you're only supposed to use a dollop of Daisy. Just a dollop of Daisy.

[Morgan]

I asked her to bring her own products next time as I wasn't comfortable with how much she used. I was in no way rude. I just explained that I splurge on really expensive products and I can't afford to have $50 of product gone every time she showers here, right?

[Tommy]

No.

[Morgan]

She called me selfish in a passive aggressive way and ended up leaving.

[Tommy]

Oh God.

[Amanda]

Okay. 16 year old.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Literally by Tuesday, her skin was red, peeling and breaking out terribly. At dinner with my in laws Tuesday, she blamed me for not warning her about my skincare products. I explained I hadn't expected her to dig through my drawers and use prescription products which are expensive and took my skin weeks to adjust to. My father in law said I should pay for a doctor's visit, but my husband refused.

[Amanda]

Good.

[Morgan]

Arguing that at 16 she should know better and that it was inappropriate for her to look through my medicine bag to even find the prescription product that was likely the culprit of the irritation.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Am I at fault for not warning her? I wouldn't go through someone's personal products, let alone use their stuff like it was my own. I would have been happy to share some skin products, not my prescription cream. She also brought up that I got mad she used so much shampoo and conditioner and basically made me look really bad in front of my in laws. Admittedly I was upset about the shampoo and conditioner and the fact that she left a huge mess on the counter, but I was very calm and just explained money is tight as we just bought our house and I didn't want her to use months of products in one shower. Anyways, let me know what you think.

[Tommy]

Dude, 16 year olds, they. Oh my God. My. My husband's sister is 16 and the products, I'm like, you have all of Sephora in your bathroom. A how, how, how did your mom afford that? Cause I know you're not buying it, right? And half of this shit is like, you don't need this. It's like retinol, like age wrinkle, trend.

[Morgan]

Or whatever the other fancy one is.

[Tommy]

Yeah, Drunk elephant vibes. I'm like, yo, can you just. But that's what they do.

[Morgan]

I know they go through all your.

[Tommy]

So when they were younger, they would go into my bathroom and like go through all of my stuff. And I was like, see?

[Amanda]

But they need to. My stuff they need to learn not to do that. Like, that's kind of a thing you learn as like a moral thing is like, you just don't go through other people's stuff unless you're at a house party and then you're in the bathroom.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

You can take a little peek around, take a little look at Lou, but you don't use anything.

[Tommy]

Agreed.

[Amanda]

And so it's like, okay. Clearly her parent. It was her dad, right, that was upset.

[Morgan]

It's like, okay for a doctor's visit.

[Amanda]

I'm like, well, how about you pay for the doctor's visit so that she learns that she shouldn't be doing this. Because if everyone just resolves that, then she won't learn that. That's not something you should do.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Also, I don't understand. How could she have warned her when she didn't know she was doing it?

[Amanda]

Right.

[Morgan]

That's the thing.

[Amanda]

Just in case. You go through all of my stuff.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Probably don't touch that thing.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I don't think she's the asshole, in my opinion.

[Amanda]

Not at all. Not at all.

[Morgan]

No. I think she's honestly on the nice list. Because if my $50 shampoo was half gone after it was brand new, I'd be pissed.

[Tommy]

We would have problems also going through someone's medical stuff.

[Morgan]

The prescription bag, pharmacy bag.

[Tommy]

Why would you put that on your face?

[Morgan]

How do you know what it's for?

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Tommy]

Like, was it a chemical peel?

[Morgan]

It was probably like a really high dose retinol or like, I feel like tretinoin has been like such a buzz. Like it's better than retinol and that stuff. Like, I did one. One tiny thing to see if I could get my skin used to it. I peeled. I peeled and I did it like I was doing tiny little dollops. This is someone that probably slathered it on.

[Tommy]

Slathered.

[Morgan]

She was slugging with the tretinoin or whatever this was.

[Tommy]

I can't handle that.

[Amanda]

I just can't imagine putting something on my face that I don't know what it is.

[Tommy]

I have such sensitive skin. I can't even use retinol. I am so sensitive. I'm such a sensitive little baby. But I literally can't use retinol. I'm not allowed to because I. It gets all red and rashy.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Here's the thing, though. I will say this girl is 16. She's probably smart. She probably went to her parents and was like. She yelled at me, she kicked me out.

[Amanda]

She made a New narrative.

[Tommy]

She put. I put on all this stuff and I'm totally breaking out and all this stuff. Like they probably. That's why the dad was like, I'm stepping in.

[Amanda]

Right. If the dad's like, hey, then he's operating out of a false narrative.

[Tommy]

Correct.

[Amanda]

Cuz like, if he found out, it's like, oh, you just raided. Just raided my sister's stuff.

[Tommy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Morgan]

It's so wild. There are so many comments from OP like, so, so many comments. There's. We. If we try to read every comment too much, we like, it's actually I'm concerned that there's so many comments for this post, to be honest. Like, oh, at least 100 comments.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

Okay, you ready? You ready for the scroll? Starts here.

[Amanda]

Oh, someone took a week off to do this.

[Tommy]

Someone used a. Quit their job.

[Amanda]

This is a PTO expense.

[Tommy]

What? How.

[Amanda]

No.

[Tommy]

What.

[Morgan]

How many comments do you estimate that was?

[Amanda]

I'm gonna say 86.

[Morgan]

Okay. I was thinking 92. I'm not gonna find out. So if someone else wants to take that upon themselves, please do. The link will be in the description.

[Amanda]

And whoever was closest gets a 1k Visa gift card.

[Tommy]

You can't promise that shit.

[Amanda]

I want.

[Tommy]

You can't promise that.

[Morgan]

But we do find out that it was Redken, like some special Redken salon shampoo.

[Tommy]

Oh, that is very expensive. That's like salon.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And I'm like, that's fine if you want to use half a bottle every time. If you're using like Tresemme or you know something from target, that's 4.79.

[Tommy]

You just don't need half a bottle.

[Morgan]

But it's also. That's not even good for your hair. It strips your hair.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Morgan]

It's not even good for your hair.

[Tommy]

Nope.

[Morgan]

I'm not seeing any update, but I think based on how many comments. Let's. Let's see what the top vote is. Because I'm like, yeah.

[Amanda]

I'm like, what is she talking about?

[Morgan]

Are people like not aligning with this? Like, why so many comments?

[Amanda]

That would be wild.

[Morgan]

Top comment. Not the asshole.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Thank God it's dangerous to use someone's prescription medication. Why was she messing around with your medicine, period? Keep repeating this to your in laws. I hope she's not messing with other people's medicine too.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

Which. That's a really good point.

[Amanda]

That is a really good point.

[Tommy]

Very good point.

[Morgan]

OP responds, which of course they did. Yep. I'm assuming she's heard of the particular product. I have. And I'm Hoping that is why she used it. She was super into the skincare craze a while ago. I am upset but not surprised that she looked through all of our stuff. She would love to find something she could try to embarrass me with. But she should have learned over the years that it hasn't worked on me. Lol.

[Tommy]

Oh, okay. Okay. There's some beef there.

[Morgan]

OP does say in the comments that it was Trent Noen.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Which. It's on that little baby skin. That's the thing.

[Tommy]

16 year old skin. Nope.

[Morgan]

Like, that is like virgin skin. Like, I hate you. He don't like that word, but that's what it is. Like, you're so fresh. You have no wrinkles. You just are not weathered.

[Tommy]

Yep.

[Amanda]

It's also like, you know, regardless of like your. Your sex gender, whatever, it's like you're going through hormonal changes at that time. Your face is going to.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Going to have like excess oils or not enough oil. Like, it's like there's stuff going on underneath the surface there.

[Morgan]

Absolutely.

[Amanda]

You don't want to mess with that.

[Tommy]

Don't mess with that shit.

[Morgan]

No, she's on the naughty list for sure. OP Naughty Opie's doing this asshole. Nice list. Nice list.

[Tommy]

Now what if she did some crazy shit and just left all that stuff out for her to come? I was like, well, that comment of her being like, didn't get me this time. I'm like, huh, Wait a second.

[Morgan]

I'm like, wait, oh, well, the sisters probably for sure tried to dig through their stuff trying to find Dildos. 100%, you think? 100%.

[Amanda]

Well, if she's showing up, trying to embarrass.

[Morgan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy]

Oh, I see. She's probably stealing some of her jewelry too. They love to take hoops.

[Amanda]

They love to take hoops.

[Tommy]

I've lost a good amount of hoops.

[Amanda]

You've lost hoops to 16 year olds?

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And I've been like, to my husband.

[Morgan]

I'm like, yeah, you got good hoops too.

[Tommy]

I'm like, you gotta get. You gotta get my hoops back. And he's like, these. Yeah. I'm like, you gotta get. It hasn't been for years, but I'm like, you gotta get my hoops back. He's like, okay.

[Amanda]

Did you get your hoops back?

[Tommy]

No.

[Morgan]

What?

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

They were. They. They didn't take them. And I was like, well, who else came in here?

[Morgan]

Dude, that shit pisses me off. I hate when people are like, oh, I don't have it. And Then you'll literally see in like an Instagram story them wearing it and you're like, yep, this. This is what I was talking about. This shirt right here. This one.

[Tommy]

Oh, yeah.

[Morgan]

Oh, that's yours.

[Tommy]

I had no idea. I thought it was someone else's.

[Morgan]

What do you mean?

[Amanda]

Insane.

[Tommy]

God, if you had sisters.

[Amanda]

I'm so glad I don't.

[Tommy]

They steal everything.

[Morgan]

I have one.

[Tommy]

And I also did too.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I have one. But we, like, didn't grow up together, so, like, I didn't have to worry about my stuff.

[Tommy]

Ooh, this is big.

[Morgan]

Thank God. Love you, Paige. But you definitely would have been a klepto.

[Tommy]

It's true.

[Morgan]

Klepto. Thinking about 16 too. I'm like, I had so much like, expensive shit that I just. I was a shoplift aholic.

[Tommy]

Oh, it's a thing.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I think that's like a. It's a canon event for 16 year old girls.

[Tommy]

They want to like, steal hair products.

[Morgan]

Sephora.

[Tommy]

I had a friend who stole hair products, but she would take big hair products and shove them down her pants. And I was like, I can't believe you're doing that. And she totally got caught.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I did eventually get caught.

[Tommy]

There's cameras.

[Morgan]

You'll always get caught. Do not shoplift friends. You'll always get caught. You'll always get caught. Yeah, I. I had a tough go at Fleet Farm and they got me. Yeah, I was all the way out though, at my car, and they dragged me back in, which is illegal, but I did not know my rights.

[Amanda]

Also, I'm pretty sure store like, like people who work in stores like that your. If you see someone shoplifting, you're just supposed to go like, oh, man. Because like, if you try and stop them and they pull something crazy, then it's like, well, you should have just let them take. Yeah, it's not worth your farm.

[Tommy]

Yeah, well, some people want to be heroes.

[Amanda]

That's true, they do.

[Morgan]

And like, here's the thing. Like, just don't be the hero. Like, there was a little old man at Home Depot. I'm gonna ruin. I'm gonna ruin. A lot of people's ruining Christmas. No, he was like an 80 year old man just working at Home Depot as his retired job, and he tried to like block a shoplifter from le, and the guy shoved him down and he died.

[Amanda]

Oh, no.

[Morgan]

So, no, no, no one be a hero.

[Amanda]

Don't do that to old man.

[Morgan]

Like, these companies have enough money. Do not be the hero for them.

[Tommy]

Don't you.

[Morgan]

Don't need to honestly help the. The robber load up their truck if it comes down to it.

[Tommy]

Absolutely. Like, seriously need help with that, Sir?

[Amanda]

Oh, have $1,000 in a Visa gift card.

[Morgan]

Do you need $1,000 in a Visa gift card?

[Tommy]

He's not going to let this go.

[Morgan]

Do you need $1,000?

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Do you need a thou.

[Morgan]

I'm like, I'll always take presents.

[Amanda]

We can all use a thousand dollars.

[Tommy]

I would love a thousand dollars in a Visa gift card.

[Morgan]

Okay, here's. I might be getting sucked into a pyramid scheme. I can't tell.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God. Can I join but, like, below you?

[Morgan]

So someone. Someone on my Facebook page keeps telling me they're like, this is the easiest hundred dollars I've ever made. And all they do is, like, write letters into, like, companies and like, I don't know, I'll report back, but it definitely feels scammy.

[Tommy]

Write letters to companies saying what?

[Morgan]

I don't know. I can't tell if it's a sweepstakes or what. But she's like, I make a hundred dollars a week just writing a couple letters.

[Tommy]

Well, you know that story about those coupon girls?

[Morgan]

Coupon girls?

[Tommy]

Yeah. Who, like, I think Kristen Bell did a movie about it. It was a true story about these coupon girls who realized that if they didn't enjoy their, like, box of Cheerios, they could write to General Mills. And then they started sending them a free coupon. So then they just.

[Morgan]

And then they sold their coupons paired to get.

[Tommy]

And they sold their coupons for more money. So they got all these free coupons and then sold them on this website. I mean, and they made millions.

[Amanda]

Millions.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

It's like a true story off cereal.

[Tommy]

I think it was more than just cereal.

[Morgan]

Okay. This also. This sounds.

[Tommy]

There's a movie on Netflix that Kristen Bacon's in.

[Morgan]

This sounds.

[Tommy]

It is a movie. I forget what they call it. Coupon girls.

[Amanda]

Something you could work for express men in 2015 and then somehow get looped into a class action lawsuit way later and make like 25 bucks.

[Morgan]

I just got a check for.

[Tommy]

Was that you?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I just got a check for 60 bucks from a class action the other day.

[Amanda]

Isn't that fun?

[Morgan]

I'm like, I see him on TikTok and I'm like, I might as well shoot my shot and apply.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Morgan]

How much did you get?

[Amanda]

I think it was like 25 bucks. I don't remember. It was just like, I got a letter that was like, hey, bud, you worked for Express. And I was Like, I sure did.

[Morgan]

That's. So I did herbalife. I used to sell herbalife and other pyramid scheme. And I got like. I think it was like 1100.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

It was a lot of money.

[Amanda]

That's a hundred dollars more than I've been asking for recently.

[Morgan]

I know, I know. It was a decent chunk of change. But you know what also is a hidden gem that a lot of people don't do? Rebates. Rebates.

[Amanda]

Rebate.

[Morgan]

You can get, like, you just write in and show a receipt, and they'll just send you money back. But it's work. Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

We were revealing all of this to the rebates.

[Morgan]

Menards. Have you guys ever been to menards?

[Amanda]

Menards.

[Morgan]

Where are we?

[Amanda]

I'm so sorry to disappoint you.

[Tommy]

What day is it?

[Morgan]

Save big money at menards.

[Tommy]

That doesn't even rhyme. Oh, you know what it is? No, no.

[Amanda]

I was looking over to you to.

[Tommy]

Make sure I wasn' I don't know what it is.

[Morgan]

Where are you both from?

[Amanda]

Florida.

[Tommy]

Massachusetts.

[Morgan]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

Florida.

[Morgan]

It's such a midwest thing. It's like the Midwest Home depot.

[Amanda]

Oh.

[Morgan]

Constant rebates. 11% rebate on everything. Everything.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Amanda]

It's a rebate.

[Morgan]

You have to buy it, and then you send in the receipt and they send you money back, but then you.

[Tommy]

Don'T send in the product.

[Amanda]

Is that not a sale that you have to do a chore for?

[Morgan]

You do have to do a chore for. It's work. That's what I'm saying.

[Tommy]

What's the.

[Morgan]

A lot of people don't do it.

[Amanda]

Having to write in and send the thing.

[Morgan]

Coupon. Movie queen pins.

[Tommy]

Queen pins. Okay. I actually thought it was pretty good. I liked it.

[Morgan]

I'm going to give it a go.

[Tommy]

And it's in. I was like, what?

[Morgan]

$40 million. $40 million.

[Tommy]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. No, they bought like. I think they bought like, Lamborghinis or something. They, like, went crazy.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Tommy]

They. They were. Yeah, they. They spent their money and they got caught. They. They really got caught.

[Morgan]

God. Yeah, they deserved that. That's. It Sounds like a feat I feel like they deserve. Really?

[Amanda]

Honey, if you're loopholing the system that hard, I'm like, ah, keep your Ferrari. I guess. I don't know.

[Morgan]

That's the thing. If the system had a hole like.

[Tommy]

That, I think they bought like 10 Ferraris. Something really dumb.

[Amanda]

Okay, well, that's a little insane.

[Tommy]

But no, they were like, money.

[Morgan]

That's like the lottery winners that, like.

[Tommy]

Buy, like, versace houses.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Just gone.

[Tommy]

Not me. I would do well. I would do a good job.

[Amanda]

I would do really well. With lottery.

[Tommy]

Yeah, with lottery.

[Morgan]

I think. I don't think anyone would know that I won.

[Tommy]

No, you don't want to tell them.

[Morgan]

You're like so discreet, completely facelifted.

[Tommy]

So much surgery.

[Amanda]

So insanely.

[Tommy]

I think anyone would tell.

[Morgan]

I wouldn't tell, but there would be signs face left.

[Amanda]

Okay, let's read some stories today.

[Tommy]

Lindsay Lohan in any Netflix movie where she's crying.

[Amanda]

God, that's so funny.

[Morgan]

Oh, my God. I haven't seen any of her holiday ones. I have any of them. Just clips, watches.

[Tommy]

And I'm like, wow.

[Amanda]

Yeah, she looks great. She's just botoxed and trying to cry. And so she's like, you know another.

[Morgan]

One that did turn out well, Christina Aguilera.

[Amanda]

She looks like she's 17.

[Morgan]

She went on stage like a Sabrina Carpenter. She's 17 and looked the same age.

[Amanda]

That's psychotic. That's so crazy.

[Morgan]

Also, like, why can't we just age?

[Tommy]

I'm like, I don't want, I don't need you to go back to Christina Aguilera. When I loved you. No, just when I love age.

[Morgan]

When. Not anymore.

[Tommy]

I recently watched Burlesque. So good on that.

[Morgan]

Everyone in that. Cher, Stanley, Tucci.

[Amanda]

I have seen Burlesque yesterday.

[Morgan]

I was going to be concerned if you hadn't seen it.

[Tommy]

Me too.

[Amanda]

I've seen Burlesque.

[Tommy]

It's so good.

[Amanda]

It's kind of an awful movie too.

[Tommy]

No, I know. It's one of those cult, cult following ones.

[Morgan]

It's a cult.

[Tommy]

It's a cult.

[Morgan]

Okay, this next one, Another one of this week's partners is Lumi. Would giving deodorant as a stocking stuffer be offensive? Probably, if it was any other deodorant but Lumi. I would take a whole stocking stuffer of Lume because Lume is one of the only deodorants that actually works for me. Lume works for up to 72 hours, actually. And this is deodorant I can wear riding a horse, sweating, going to work out, and still smell fresh enough after to go meet up with friends for happy hour or dinner. And they even have travel sizes so I can keep one in my purse for when I forget my deodorant so I will never stink again. So if you're ready to try it for yourself, Lume starter pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a solid stick deodorant cream tube deodorant two free products of your choice like mini body wash and deodorant wipes and free shipping as a special offer for listeners. New customers. Get 15% off all Lume products with our exclusive code. And if you combine the 15% off with the already discounted starter pack, that equals over 40% off their starter pack. Use code THT for 15% off your first [e-mail] that's code T H T at L U M E D E O D O R a n t.com Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. Thanks, guys. Buckle up, everyone.

[Tommy]

Oh, boy.

[Morgan]

Buckle up. Hold on.

[Tommy]

That's my buckle.

[Amanda]

Oh, that's my.

[Tommy]

Sorry, sorry. That's my buckle.

[Amanda]

You're sitting.

[Tommy]

You're sitting on my buckle.

[Morgan]

This next one is coming from r relationshipadvice. 2 days old titled my 27 female fiance's 29 male mother gave me abortion pills as an early Christmas present.

[Amanda]

Oh my God. Congrats.

[Morgan]

How on earth do I navigate this situation?

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Tommy]

Leave the family immediately. What?

[Amanda]

Jesus.

[Tommy]

That is. I have questions. So she knows that she's pregnant early enough. We're gonna get there, okay? We're gonna get there. I can't handle it.

[Amanda]

As it happens, we will find out more information.

[Tommy]

I can't handle it. As the story is, I want to flee.

[Morgan]

I love the eagerness though, to be like, you're just ready to pop off on the title alone. And I appreciate that enthusiasm.

[Tommy]

That was just the title because it gave me all the information I needed.

[Amanda]

Yeah, the title's got a lot going on on.

[Morgan]

So immediately. No, like immediately no.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I typed the title and proceeded to blank stare at my phone because I can't even process how and why this happened. We were having a sort of early holiday gathering hosted at his parents house. It wasn't a small gathering either and not everyone there knows we're expecting except his brother, mother and father. Right before we got ready to leave, she gave me a small box which I initially thought was jewelry. And she told me to tell her or my fiance what I think of it. What do you think of it? All of this kind of happened in a rush and there wasn't even a gift exchange between everybody because it wasn't that kind of party. But everyone thought she's being sweet to me because we're getting engaged soon. I was honestly tired and I opened the gift at home, which is where I saw this wicked woman had given me pills, mifepristone and misoprostol, which are used for Medical abortions.

[Amanda]

Oh, whoa.

[Morgan]

I understand. She wasn't too happy about the news and obviously doesn't like me for fuck knows what reason, but kept it civil. So did I. But reaching this level, I genuinely don't know why she doesn't like me when the rest of the family is completely fine with me. I assume it's because of either my ethnicity or she has a superiority complex and believes I'm not good enough for her son because he graduated from a very prestigious university and has been financially privileged his entire life while I haven't been. Even though now I earn my own money and we are pretty much equal, I simply don't know. I obviously told him and showed him, and he saw how visibly upset I am, comforted me, and said, what she does slash says to me doesn't reflect my worth, and he will talk to her.

[Amanda]

Good.

[Tommy]

What? He should have been enraged.

[Amanda]

At least he's taken action.

[Morgan]

That's true, Bar.

[Amanda]

Right? Right.

[Morgan]

I don't understand why he doesn't do something about this immediately.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It has been almost 24 hours now. We are happy about this pregnancy, and even though it wasn't exactly planned, it was welcome. And if it happened, and that is something him and I have discussed over a year ago, what do I do?

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

I would raise all hell personally.

[Morgan]

This would go in a family group chat. Anyone would know what she got me.

[Tommy]

I would 100% call a family meeting. I would call her out immediately. I would tell my person that he was going to stand by me. I would be enraged.

[Morgan]

We'd be going, no contact with mom for sure.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, why not?

[Tommy]

Revealed her horrible plans because they haven't.

[Morgan]

Even done a pregnancy announcement yet.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Tommy]

I just think that is crossing so evil. So many lines. It is so evil.

[Amanda]

I've just been thinking about how to, like, get back at her. I'm like, okay. The first thing I thought was like, you get like, some chicken liver. You, like, chop it up and you, like, put it on the doorstep.

[Tommy]

I love that.

[Amanda]

And then be like, you got what you wanted. But it's like, no, I don't want her to get what she wanted. What she doesn't want is this baby. So I'm like, what we do is we make a beautiful little grandma shrine. Be like, congratulations, Grandma.

[Tommy]

Look, it's the baby you love.

[Amanda]

You know, like, double down that way. I don't know. I just like, this is so evil. I like, she. I send her menopause. Yeah. She needs some, like, I want revenge.

[Tommy]

On behalf of me.

[Amanda]

That's so insane.

[Tommy]

I feel rageful. I. I feel like the best thing to do is to completely expose her. But here's the thing. I think because her partner didn't react so aggressively means this woman has done up since day one.

[Morgan]

Here's my thing. Okay. And maybe this is just me. I have read a lot of stories. Okay.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It was the line where the mother in law says, tell me or your fiance what you think of it. So did he know before? Because otherwise, why does the mom want her to open this present, see what it is, and then be like, tell me or your fiance what you think of it? Like, did him and his mom have a conversation just being like, yeah, you know, you're right, Mom, I'm not ready. We're not ready, you know? Yeah. And then she's taking it upon herself because that's her son, that's her little boy.

[Tommy]

Oh, God.

[Morgan]

And she's just the one that's now, like, giving her these. These pills. Like, why would. Why would she want her to go to him?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Why wouldn't it be like, tell me what you think of it.

[Tommy]

That's so true.

[Morgan]

Also, did he know?

[Tommy]

Did she. Did she just expect her to be like, you know what? You're right. Thanks, Mom. Like, thanks so much. Like what? Maybe he did know.

[Morgan]

I think he knew, and I think that's why he didn't go off the handle.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

I think he knew.

[D]

Whoa.

[Tommy]

Which is even way more upsetting.

[Amanda]

That's. Yeah, that's another thing. A way bigger thing to deal with.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Because otherwise he would be flipping out at his mom, but he doesn't want to flip out his mom because he had a part in this. That's. I don't know. I could be. I could be way off base here.

[Tommy]

No, I don't think so.

[Amanda]

I'm like, making sense.

[Morgan]

Something's off here. You don't just get this for someone. The lengths you have to go to get this.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And yes, I know, I know there's, you know, companies that will mail it to your door now and blah, blah, blah, blah. But, like, that is still a feat for someone to go through.

[Amanda]

Right?

[Morgan]

And it's expensive, I imagine, like, yeah.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

What the fuck?

[Amanda]

Yeah. That's evil.

[Tommy]

Crazy.

[Amanda]

That's evil.

[Tommy]

This is. This is purely evil.

[Amanda]

I want to know the mom's name.

[Morgan]

Karen.

[Amanda]

Karen.

[Tommy]

Karen.

[Amanda]

Susan. It's an.

[Morgan]

I'm so sorry. To Karen.

[Amanda]

Or En. For sure.

[Tommy]

I feel like it's like a Veronica.

[Morgan]

Or like a Diana.

[Tommy]

Diana.

[Morgan]

Diane.

[Amanda]

She's got tight lips.

[Tommy]

Yeah, she's tight. And she probably is the one who. She's very tight. She's probably the one who, like, is so helicopter mom to her kids with, like. And if they're all super rich, like, which they are.

[Morgan]

Oh, the ethnicity comment too, was another big tell. This is giving, like, really privileged white family trust fund, old money vibes. And like, if she's any other ethnicity, it's like, that's a problem.

[Tommy]

Correct.

[Amanda]

Do we know if they're getting married because of the pregnancy? Because this, this makes me think the mom is like, I'll get you out of my son's life.

[Tommy]

No, seriously, that's her voice.

[Amanda]

I love you like that.

[Tommy]

Vivian.

[Amanda]

Viv.

[Morgan]

Oh, Vivian.

[Amanda]

I knew it wasn't Ann.

[Tommy]

Yeah, Vivian. No one calls her Viv ever.

[Morgan]

You can't call her Viv.

[Tommy]

Maybe like, her first friend that she, like, tried to be a lesbian with for a second was like, Viv. And she ended that a long time ago.

[Amanda]

They touched hands and she was like.

[Tommy]

I don't like you.

[Morgan]

So we do have some comments, I think. So the problem is OP deleted their post. OP deleted their account. So it's not as easy to pull up comments from OP but putting two and two together. The top comment has a response from someone that deleted their account. So let's. Let's get into it here.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Top comment. I'm kind of surprised your fiance hasn't gone scorched earth over this. I would think that the right moment to bring up how fucked up this gesture was is like, immediately after finding out. Although maybe your fiance needs some time to wrap his brain around this. Has he had any contact with his mother since the gift exchange? I'm guessing this is op he hasn't? Not that I know of. I want to bring it up by myself, but I am beyond humiliated. And I don't want to be labeled as a hysterical person. Especially because she plays everything off as a calm and collected woman. And I know for a fact I will be the one who's being blamed and she will be the victim. He knows his mother better than I do, however, so I think it is his responsibility to stand up for me 100%.

[Amanda]

Of course, the only reason he could be taking his time is figuring out how he's going to. Because if. If Vivian is this extreme person, maybe it's like, okay, I need to figure out how I'm going to tackle this.

[Tommy]

Correct.

[Amanda]

That's. But that's the only excuse to not be scorched earth instantly.

[Tommy]

Right? Right. He needs to figure out the game plan, because.

[Morgan]

And he could be one of those. Yes.

[Tommy]

He needs to figure out the game.

[Amanda]

Plan of the doubt big time.

[Tommy]

But I'm also like, I think he's used to this. I think any girlfriend he's ever had, his mom has probably been.

[Morgan]

She's not good enough.

[Tommy]

She's probably done some crazy shit because this is beyond. I'm also like, do you really want to bring up a child in this situation?

[Amanda]

Right.

[Tommy]

What if she. Like, what if she watches the child? Are you going to let her?

[Morgan]

I would. No. I wouldn't take these pills. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have a relationship with this person going forward.

[Tommy]

No.

[Morgan]

And I wouldn't give them access to my kids.

[Tommy]

Nope.

[Amanda]

Not at all.

[Morgan]

Like, you didn't want this baby here. Well, fine. You don't imagine. Imagine this baby doesn't exist. You will not know this baby.

[Tommy]

Right. Exactly.

[Morgan]

Like that is what you sowed. Reaped.

[Tommy]

Reaped what you sow.

[Morgan]

That. Yeah.

[Tommy]

Sow what you reap.

[Morgan]

Sow first and then you reap.

[Amanda]

And then you reap.

[Morgan]

Yeah. So that's. Yeah. Yeah. So you reap what you sow. Yeah, that's correct.

[Tommy]

Amanda. I love that. It was like, I'm not sure. This is probably OP and then it's immediately. Definitely.

[Morgan]

Well, I haven't read any of the comments, so, like, I. I was a little bit of a procrastinator today. So, like, I was picking stories as. Like, I was finishing my makeup here as you guys walked in. So I'm, like, a little all over the place. So I obviously read the stories to make sure they're good. But of course, the comments, like, but that's fine.

[Amanda]

We can all live it together.

[Tommy]

Yeah, we can.

[Morgan]

But I'm seeing one more comment from OP Here.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Morgan]

So someone responds, why? She wanted to know what you think. I would take a picture of the pill box and post it in your family group chat. If you don't have one already, just make one. I would write, quote, thanks, grandma, for those, but I won't be needing them. Maybe you can send them back to wherever you got them from and get a refund. I love that you took the time to find me a present. And I hate to say this, but this isn't my taste and without consulting a doctor could really harm me. You don't owe her dignity.

[Amanda]

True.

[Tommy]

That's too nice of a message.

[Morgan]

And someone they edit. I would never eat or drink anything near her again.

[Amanda]

Yeah, yeah. No, for real.

[Tommy]

I didn't even put my brain there.

[Amanda]

Yeah. No ingesting near Vivian.

[Tommy]

That. She is Vivian. She is Vivian. That. That blows my mind.

[Amanda]

I do like treating it like a bracelet, being like, yeah, thanks, but I really didn't like the brief. I didn't.

[Tommy]

Yeah, it's not for me. It could cause a rash.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

In fact, it could kill me. I don't know.

[Amanda]

But that again, like we just said, that's like, that's too nice of a no.

[Tommy]

I think she should be like, thanks, grandmother, for the abortion pills that you wanted me to get rid of my child with your son. I won't be doing that.

[Morgan]

I would make it very explicit. I would. So I would have like, however you're gonna announce your pregnancy to the family. I would also tie in and be like, oh, and grandma, here's those pills you gave us. Won't be needing those. Thanks. Like, I would blast it. I would absolutely blast this from the rooftops.

[Amanda]

Yeah. That's something that the family needs to know happened. I just have a feeling that they know. It's like they know. Someone who does something like this doesn't just suddenly go this extreme. They've been doing it acting crazy for a while.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Well, and like, she clearly has access to resources, so it's like, what. What else is she capable of?

[Tommy]

I just picture her with like a frickin needle being like, let me tuck you in.

[Amanda]

Like a cartoon nurse. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Morgan]

Potassium between the toes.

[Tommy]

Terrible.

[Amanda]

Oof. Wow.

[Morgan]

So bad. But op responds to that. Yes. I was immediately concerned about what I ate and drank there. I actually threw up. And like I mentioned somewhere in the other replies, I am scared of both of them at the moment.

[Amanda]

As in fiance. Also.

[Morgan]

Wait, that's the context I would construe.

[Amanda]

There's no other. No other character has been mentioned.

[Morgan]

The only positive thing now is I can have blah, blah, blah by myself and I can leave as it's the first trimester. We are missing something very big here.

[Tommy]

She can have the baby by herself.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Why is she scared of the female fiance now?

[Morgan]

I don't want to be a single mom and I would rather make a tough choice than deal with this family's.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

And. And obviously with my partner that I thought loved me and our child.

[Tommy]

Oh, he's done some.

[Morgan]

I think if this doesn't get resolved and talked about, I'll have issues just because of the stress. I feel like, what went down?

[Amanda]

Yeah, we've missed a chapter of.

[Tommy]

Well, he hasn't said anything.

[Amanda]

That's what I'm assuming he hasn't said.

[Tommy]

Anything. She doesn't want to say anything because clearly, maybe when she said things in the past, the mom, Vivian, humiliated her.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Yeah. I'm not seeing any other comments from OP but on the screenshots I have. We do have an edit.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Edit. To those wondering how she could have gotten these pills without being pregnant. They can be ordered online and delivered discreetly. You don't have to go to a clinic. Or she could have just paid someone to get them. Either way, they're accessible. And honestly, I don't give a shit how she acquired them. It's what she did with them.

[Amanda]

Damn. Wow.

[Morgan]

There's something really big. This is like. This is giving. What was that crazy show on hbo? Succession. This is giving, like, very rich, powerful, crazy family.

[Tommy]

Absolutely. Like, there's, like, handling business.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Like, is she gonna be handled? Like, they're not engaged yet, but they're planning on getting engaged soon. So this is clear.

[Amanda]

Like, the first thing I thought of was, like, maybe the son, the fiance isn't doing anything because it's like, well, mommy's. Mommy's money source. So it's like, if I cut off. If I fight Mommy, I'm cut off.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

How many girlfriends has he lost in.

[Amanda]

The past to Mommy?

[Tommy]

To Mommy.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Probably a lot because he's not. He's not going to fight for her. It's clear, right?

[Amanda]

No. Oh, I hate this for OP I know.

[Tommy]

This is awful. Now she's like, maybe I do have to get an abortion. Just simply, too, because I don't want to be a single mom. This is.

[Amanda]

Then Vivian wins.

[Tommy]

I know.

[Amanda]

I hate that.

[Tommy]

Don't you want to just skip to nine months later and she has the baby and she's happy and she's not with him.

[Morgan]

She ran away to Europe and found, like, an amazing new partner. So six.

[Amanda]

Five. Yeah.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Morgan]

She just eats crepes all day.

[Tommy]

Yeah, she eats crepes all day and she swims all day.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

So the crepes barely make a mark on her at all because she's swimming.

[Morgan]

All day, strolls around the garden with her nice little baby buggy.

[Tommy]

Oh, wow. Can we all just go? All we need is 1k in a Visa gift card.

[Amanda]

1K and 1 baby tickets to Europe.

[Morgan]

I'm. Dude, I just need. I need to go over there. It's just so happy over there.

[Tommy]

I know.

[Morgan]

And granted, I'm on vacation, so I know it's a little different, but, like, I loved Paris. Like, I had the best.

[Tommy]

Never been to Paris.

[Morgan]

I was really Nervous to go and had the most magical time I've heard.

[Amanda]

Really nice.

[Morgan]

It was so good.

[Amanda]

I've also heard it's like, kind of like crummy city, but, like, it's a city, like, so it's like, what do you expect? Kind of.

[Tommy]

Right.

[Amanda]

Anyway, I've never been outside of the United States.

[Morgan]

You haven't?

[Tommy]

He hasn't.

[Morgan]

Do you have a passport? Let's work on that.

[Tommy]

No, he needs to get a passport. Yeah, he needs to go.

[Morgan]

There's so much out there to see.

[Tommy]

Come on, honey.

[Amanda]

I know. I was gonna go with my friend on his Europe trip this next year, but then I was like, oh, can I spend that long with him?

[Tommy]

That's a true question.

[Amanda]

I'm like, I don't want to go to Europe alone.

[Morgan]

Commit to a portion. You will just commit to a portion of the trip. Yeah, that's true.

[Tommy]

And do, like, four days on your own. You've enjoyed solo trips.

[Amanda]

I have.

[Morgan]

I have.

[Amanda]

I've done. I've soloed before. Soloed before.

[Tommy]

I agree with you. Sometimes you can't always travel with friends.

[Morgan]

It's just, you know, some friends you're not meant to travel with.

[Tommy]

Nope. Yeah, they could be like your greatest friends. You have so much fun. But sometimes travel is a totally different beast.

[Morgan]

It's. It's a lot with certain people.

[Amanda]

I'm gonna wait till I got my mans and we're like, yeah, let's go to Europe together, honey. Yeah, let's go.

[Tommy]

That would be lovely.

[Morgan]

What if you. Honestly, though, what if you went over there and then met your man's there? And then you would get dual citizenship.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Amanda]

I'm going to pray immediately. I'm going to Europe tomorrow.

[Morgan]

I'm just saying maybe your person isn't here, and that's why you need your person yet.

[Amanda]

All right, I need my passport. I got.

[Tommy]

You need your passport.

[Amanda]

I need to get my passport right now.

[Morgan]

It's time.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Morgan]

It's time.

[Amanda]

Wow. Op's on The Nice list.

[Tommy]

100%.

[Morgan]

Very.

[Tommy]

Vivian is on the naughty. And fiance is on the naughty, I think.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Okay, Moving along, Moving along. Because I only got you here for a couple. Couple more.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

What am I gonna do without.

[Tommy]

We didn't end on that one.

[Morgan]

Oh, hell no.

[Amanda]

That would have been.

[Morgan]

I would not do us dirty like that. This is a holiday episode. We have to provide some cheer, which this one does feel a little better. This next one, but we'll see. We'll see. Okay, friends, are we ready for this next one? Our audible Audiobook Hot takes are in. We had over 1600 responses on audiobook Hot Takes from you guys. Some of them are really like you. You guys came out swinging. You were just coming in hot. Audiobooks are very like people have strong feelings about them.

[D]

Not surprised.

[Morgan]

Not surprised at all. Well, let's get into these audiobook hot takes, which these are brought to you guys from our friends at Audible. If you hear these hot takes or stories or whatever we get into and want to try Audible, you can actually get 30 days for free audible.comtht link will be in the description, so don't worry. But let's. Let's dive in. Okay. I listen to Audible books all the time. I've always had a reading comprehension issue where I feel like I have to read a sentence two to three times to fully digest and understand what I just read. When I listen to audiobooks, I can avoid this issue, though. I sometimes will fall asleep, but that's another issue. I get angry when people say listening is not the same as reading. The way I see it, if I'm retaining the story, I'm successfully completing a book. I'm sure the author is happy either way.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, reading, listening, they're all ways of conveying a message. As long as message is received and understood, what's the difference?

[Morgan]

I completely agree. I think it's so odd when people, like, fight over this that, like, audiobooks aren't real books. It's like it's the same book. How is it not real? Like, some people are visual learners, some people are audio learners. You're telling me you didn't, you didn't retain that? When you're. When your kindergarten teacher read you a story, audiobooks you're being read.

[D]

When your parents read you bedtime stories.

[Morgan]

To fall asleep, you were being told an audiobook. Hmm. This next one. I love reading and listening to audiobooks. I got into audiobooks when I was on maternity leave with my firstborn. It really helped keep my sanity. While having to bounce the baby for hours in the dark, it was easier for her to fall back asleep. I love having them for house projects I'm working on road trips, walks with the baby, and even when I was at work listening to books, I don't think I wouldn't otherwise read. Fahrenheit 451, a couple of Dickens books, the Hobbit, to name a few, as well as some Sarah J. Maas and the like. Gotta say, I'm also guilty of listening at 1.5 speed most of the time. But I really just find most of the narratives, slash, podcast speak too slowly for me. Oh, I'm sorry. Thanks. Adhd. Most likely just because they are enunciating. I try, but I. I think that is also a really cool point of this is like, you are listening to audiobooks that you otherwise probably wouldn't like. Fahrenheit 451 is a classic.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, honestly, I'm picturing someone holding a book and driving. Is that what you guys want? Is that real reading? I'm picturing someone running, going for their morning run and running with the book and trying to read as the book bounces versus just listening. It's hands free.

[Morgan]

I love the line. Like, it helped me keep my sanity.

[D]

Yeah, I love it.

[Amanda]

Ah.

[Morgan]

Okay, this next one, Bit of a hot take here. I love an audiobook until there is some sort of character singing in the book. It's so different to reading a song compared to a narrator singing, speaking it. And then I don't know how far to skip to get the singing away.

[D]

I've never even considered that.

[Morgan]

I didn't either.

[D]

But, like, yeah, having a song read to you, imagine your favorite song, all of a sudden someone's just reading the lyrics poetically to you.

[Morgan]

I mean, I've read books that have poems in them.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I can imagine the poem in like, an audiobook then just being, like, so soothing coming from that narrator's voice and just, like, really fitting in. How you would be like, Rome. It's typically my romance books. How you'd be, like, romanced with it. So I'm like, I love that. But the singing, I'm really curious about it. Yeah. But I know Wicked is like, all the buzz right now, which I get it. Wicked is actually on audible. The original novel, did you know it's not a musical. The original Wicked is not a musical. So you could go on audible, listen to the audiobook of Wicked, and then go see the musical and compare like that to me. I'm like, I already want to see it again. So I'm like, but I'm gonna. I'm doing this. I'm gonna literally listen to it on audible, get the original foundation and then see. Yeah, this is gonna be so good.

[D]

I wonder what the comparison between listening to a book and reading it or vice versa would be the same book. How would the experiences compare and which stands out more to you? Which did you take more from? That would be an interesting comparison.

[Morgan]

Well, our next take mentions a little bit about that audiobooks are better than physical books being Able to hear the book through the actual character makes it feel a little more real. And the spicy scenes are just that much better. Chef's Kiss. Okay.

[D]

I mean, it makes sense. You know, in the music world, when you hear the songwriter that originally wrote the song sing the song from. From themselves, it's their experience. It comes across in a whole different way and it connects on a different level. Yeah, it's kind of the same. Also, when there's a reason they have authors come to libraries and read sections of their book.

[Morgan]

Oh, my gosh.

[D]

Because they're reading it in a way that maybe you're not interpreting it as. Maybe the voice in your head's not reading it as they intended that.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[D]

And when you listen to an audiobook, I'm sure some of that intention's baked into the notes of when you read this section. When you do this, it's probably read in the way the author's intending.

[Morgan]

It totally is. And I think it's so, like, think about in your own life, when you get a text message from a friend and you're like, ugh, are they mad at me? And it's like two dots. You can literally, like, infer so much based on words. But if you're listening to that audiobook, you're going to get it, like. Like you said, like, you're going to get those inner workings, the enunciation in the parts. They want it. Because that adds so much power.

[D]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And there's so much thought and curation behind the readings on these audiobooks. Like, and also, it still doesn't take away from your imagination and how you're going to interpret it. Like, it's such. It's such a good experience. Yeah, it really is. This next take, I think we are really going to love, because we were just talking to our friend Michaela about this. Audible is definitely the best way to hit your reading goal. One thing about the story that we read the last time, when we asked for these hot takes, she was trying to hit her reading goal of a hundred books in a year, which I forgot about that. That's why she was listening on three times speed. When I was actively listening to books on audible and doing long drives, it was the only way to keep me sane. I was driving nine hours one way for military training, and I plowed through dozens upon dozens of audiobooks with my subscription. I prefer hard copies of books nowadays, but especially when I'm traveling, it's the best way to read. Especially if you're like me and get motion sick on planes. Sometimes Some narrators read super slow for me, which is when two times or three times speed comes in handy. Don't get me started on neurodivergence as well. Most people who are neurodivergent can listen insanely fast and comprehend really well. Yeah, for me, when I listen to something when I drive like an audiobook, I'm way less likely to like get distracted driving. I feel like it is so helpful. I think it's a lot of the reason why people listen to us in the podcast when they're driving or cleaning or doing things. It's like, it keeps you engaged. It's like you're. You have a buddy with you.

[D]

Well, and it makes it go faster. Right? Because when you're focused on something that's not just the same lane, you're trying to stay in for hours and hours and hours, you know, because most of the time you're probably not driving through mountains and beautiful landscapes. You're just on a straight road forever. And if you sit there and you're just kind of going through that monotony, it's gonna feel like it takes forever.

[Morgan]

Highway hypnosis is a real thing.

[D]

And when you put something on that you can listen to, you're like, oh my God, I'm here.

[Morgan]

Number one, listening to two hot takes. Number two, audiobook on audible. Just kidding. Audiobook number one, this next one. And this is all caps. Ready?

[D]

Yep.

[Morgan]

I love, love, love audiobooks because it is something I can share with my 19 year old autistic son. He cannot converse during mealtime, but I hate the chomping down food silence. So we listen to a shared audiobook, pause the story and the meal, and discuss and share our predictions before we continue the story. It is perfect. We listen at normal speed.

[D]

That's awesome. I love that.

[Morgan]

I love this. Like, that's the other aspect of this. It's like you could put it on in a car with someone. You're hearing the information at the same speed versus like, oh, hey, you grab a copy, I'll grab a copy. That's a lot. And then it's like you can pause and talk like, oh, the character. Like that, what they just said, like, wow, like it's more of a together.

[D]

Activity versus, oh, I'm on page 200. Oh, I'm on page 75.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[D]

And then you're just disconnected. You're on your own journey. I didn't think of this as sharing the experience. And now you can.

[Morgan]

Okay. I actually really like the idea and maybe this is out there, but you know, like book clubs, how people like you have to read, and it's like, you're like, oh, everyone better get through this chapter, this whole book, by the time we meet. And it's like, that's a lot of pressure. But what if we had audiobook clubs? And you come and you show up with your snacks and your good drinks, and then you just play it and you sit there and just relax with your people like that? That's a club I would sign up for.

[D]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And then you pause and you chat about the chapter, and then you move on and you listen to the next one. We might be onto something here.

[D]

I honestly think we should make this the standard, because remember in school when you'd get the textbook and then have the little CD in it?

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[D]

And the CD was the audio version of the textbook.

[Morgan]

Yeah. It's complimentary.

[D]

I would always use the CD and listen to it and do way better than just reading through. And I think a lot of students would.

[Morgan]

So that is really funny that you mentioned this. We've just, like. It's been a little pinball machine. Our next hot take. I think schools should use audiobooks. With audiobooks being helpful not only to Papa Jerry for his dyslexia, it could help kids who have it as well. It could help others with learning disabilities as well as help with focusing on learning and not stressing about having to read long paragraphs. I did horrible in school and lack concentration and motivation and feel like audiobooks could change that.

[D]

I have not seen whatever you're looking at, so that is pretty crazy.

[Morgan]

I didn't warn you at all. Our last one that we're gonna read one thing that will grind my gears like no other people who think audiobooks do not count as reading and have something to say about the speed I listen at. Okay, one last one. I lied. I did lie. This last one. Everyone is different, which is why audiobooks are a beautiful tool to welcome more people into the reading community. People need to stop being exclusive gatekeepers. I'm beyond grateful for audiobooks and the way I am able to listen to stories that have changed my life for the better. It has also led to community book clubs, book podcasts, et cetera.

[D]

I mean, it's the reality of life today, right? We're in our cars, we're walking, we're doing chores around the house, whatever it may be, we can listen to an audiobook. And why would that be an issue for someone who's read the book? Because at the end of the day, when you read or Listen to an amazing book. What's the first thing you want to do? I want to share it with my friend. I want to share it with my mom. I want to share it with whoever it may be. And if they can't sit down and physically read the book, would you rather have them never experience the book in any way, or would you rather have them experience it and connect with them on it, even though they went and listened to it and they probably had a better experience than you did?

[Morgan]

Yeah. I love this. I'm always in the boat of teach their own right. If you want to pick up a physical copy, do it. But I love how much access this creates. I love that last one, the sense of community and outside community they found. Like, I just love that there's so much to this, and really, it provides such a good outlet. And I bet there's a lot of you out there that have Pavlov'd yourself. Just like the podcast. I love our cleaning crew that's like, oh, podcast is out. We gotta start cleaning. I'm sure there's so many of you out there that, like, can't clean or hate driving without having your audiobook on. And so I think whatever floats your boat and makes you happy. But I think Audible is a great way to test out audiobooks. Give it a go. So if you do want to try Audible, new members can try Audible right now for free for 30 days. You just visit audible.com THT or if you guys want to text, just text THT to 500. 500. That's audible.com THT or text THT to 500. 500 to try audible. Free for 30 days. Let me know what your favorite is. I'm taking audiobook recommendations now. That's the next one you can let me know about.

[D]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Okay. Moving on to the next one. So this is coming from R. Pettyrevenge. Okay, Fun. Couple months old, titled. I've been calling my sister by her full given name when she deadnames my niece.

[Amanda]

I love that.

[Tommy]

What's dead name?

[Amanda]

Dead name. When someone transitions the name that they used to be.

[Tommy]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. When she dead names my niece. Got it. It's a name that is dead.

[Morgan]

Yep, she gone.

[Tommy]

Mm.

[Morgan]

Okay. My brother's kid, 22, female, came out as trans on her 21st birthday about a year ago, and she changed her name from Lance to Lacey. Fake names. Most of our family accepted it, and the ones who didn't weren't close anyways. Except our sister Eva, 45, female. We are native American family with a lot of creative names. And my sister's birth name is something close to Evangeline. But she decided to go by Eva after a white kid said her name was rezzed out. Low class, stereotypical name from an Indian reservation. She insisted on eva for about 35 years and we all obliged. Now she's regularly been calling my trans niece by her dead name, Lance, since she came out as trans. So I started calling her Evangeline, which she hates. The whole family caught on and have only been referring to her as Evangeline for about a year now. And she is furious every time she comes to family events. Recently she's been calling me by my full first name to bother me. My first name is a portmanteau hyphenation of my mom's four sisters names. Something like Alexiana, Dorothy, but wackier. Iconic people have always called me Ad or Lexi or my brother calls me Dodo since he was a kid. I love my first full names, but it's cumbersome to use an eight syllable name regularly. Well, my full name caught on with family and friends just to spite Evangeline. We have all reverted back to our full names instead of our nicknames. Our dad is no longer Frank, he's Franklin. Our mom is no longer Ros, she's Rosalin. Brother is no longer Nate, he's Nathaniel. Sister in law is no longer Kate, she is Catherine, et cetera. This has truly driven Evangeline away, which was the plan in the first place. Lacey makes for better company, so good riddance to the one crappy sister.

[Amanda]

Hell yeah. Wow, that's iconic.

[Tommy]

I do love that this is iconic. And I wonder if anyone, if Evangeline ever called anyone out like, why are you calling me? And, and did she ever say like, don't use my niece's dead name? Don't use your nickname?

[Morgan]

Probably.

[Amanda]

I'm sure. I'm sure either the niece or someone made a point at some point to say that, because it's like, you know, when someone transitions you, like you respect what they want, you know, whatever they want, you respect them. That's the whole thing, right? And if you, like, if you're, if you screw up someone's name, like you go, oh shit, I'm sorry, like, whoa, sorry. And then like, usually it's like, okay, that's fine, moving on, you know, but if you keep doing it, then it's like you're making the decision to disrespect this person.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And so there you go, Evangeline.

[Tommy]

Evangeline Wow.

[Amanda]

That is. I love this family.

[Morgan]

This is amazing.

[Tommy]

What a way to handle it.

[Morgan]

Everyone is so supportive. Like, this is the most satisfying story I think I've had in quite some time.

[Tommy]

Yes.

[Amanda]

This is awesome.

[Morgan]

Because how frustrating would that be? Like, you're transitioning. You're being your most true, authentic self, and someone just keeps, like, putting you back in the box of the past. Oh, okay, Lance. It's right. It's Lacy now it's Lacy. Like, that would be so frustrating.

[Amanda]

Transitioning is already so challenging, hard, scary, complicated enough. I've just. I'm so happy for Lacy, having a literal family behind her to be like.

[Tommy]

Like, we got you.

[Morgan]

I know.

[Tommy]

We got you.

[Amanda]

That's awesome. Lacey lucked out with that.

[Tommy]

I mean, changing your name, it can be hard, but it's like if you repeat it, if you change it in your phone. Like, my sister changed her name, and I just immediately changed in my phone, put on everything, kept doing it. And my family, they are really doing a good job. They're really trying, but of course, they go back to the old name a lot when they're talking to me, and.

[Amanda]

I'm just like, you're like, it's this now.

[Tommy]

That's her name. Yeah, that's her name. Like, I don't even. I don't even use her old name. Because you just practice. Yeah, it's hard, but you can take some giving. You can do it.

[Amanda]

It's just a.

[Tommy]

Just practice.

[Amanda]

It's just a little switch you flip on, and you're just, like, active until it becomes habit again. And then that switch doesn't have to come. It's important to just, like, you learn anything. Oh, let me take my shoes off when I get home as opposed to walking around with my shoes on. Same thing.

[Morgan]

Yeah, there's particles on those things. You gotta take them off.

[Tommy]

There's what?

[Morgan]

There's poop particles all over the bottom of your shoe.

[Amanda]

Then you're gonna walk around barefooting your home.

[Tommy]

So I shouldn't put my shoes in my bed? I'm kidding.

[Amanda]

You put them on your pillow first.

[Morgan]

That is a hot topic, though. Like, outside clothes in your bed and how, like, you can't do it. It's gross.

[Tommy]

No. Yeah, it's gross.

[Amanda]

I don't do outside clothes.

[Morgan]

Sometimes I get lazy, and I just want to take my nap right away.

[Tommy]

Yeah, do it.

[Morgan]

But, yeah, I agree. Like, you're gonna have a slip here. And again, like, you know, muscle memory, whatever. But, yeah, to do it intentionally, hurtfully, like, that's it's.

[Tommy]

Right.

[Morgan]

That's.

[Amanda]

That's so.

[Morgan]

I. I do really love, love this story.

[Tommy]

Me too.

[Morgan]

But what I don't love is one of these next ones.

[Amanda]

Oh no.

[Morgan]

Which. Here's your choice. Okay.

[Amanda]

We get to pick.

[Morgan]

You guys get to pick. Okay. Option number one, am I the asshole for agreeing to wear my mother in law's wedding dress for my wedding? Or option number two, am I the asshole for sacrificing the guest room instead of the office space?

[Amanda]

I have my answer. Do you have your answer?

[Tommy]

I think so. I think three, two, one wedding dress.

[Amanda]

Yep.

[Morgan]

Okay.

[Tommy]

I said one and I was like wait, I know.

[Morgan]

I got scared.

[Tommy]

I'm like one wedding dress.

[Amanda]

You've been wed before.

[Tommy]

I've been wed before and I love a drama. I love a drama. And I don't have a guest room.

[Amanda]

No, I can't relate. I have a one bedroom. My one room is a bedroom.

[Tommy]

Same. Correct.

[Morgan]

I like it. Okay, here we go then. It is coming from. Am I the asshole? One month old. Am I the asshole for agreeing to wear my mother in law's wedding dress for my wedding? So I, 26, female, am getting married in three months to my fiance, 34 male. It's going to be a small ceremony at my grandparents house. I know it's kind of late to be talking about dresses, but I was originally planning to wear my stepmom's wedding dress. It's a beautiful wedding dress that I love and it means a lot to me because she's the one who raised me and loved me when my bio mom didn't want me. But here's the thing. While planning the wedding, I got pregnant. I'm three months along now, so I'll be six months pregnant at the wedding. The dress from my stepmom is tight fitting and there's no way it's going to fit a six month baby bump. I was devastated.

[Tommy]

Oh.

[Morgan]

Not because I'd have to buy a new dress, but because I really wanted that special mother daughter bond. On my wedding day last weekend I was venting about it to my mother in law and I broke down crying. She then said she'd be honored if I wore her wedding dress. She showed it to me and it's a stunning vintage dress from the 70s with a boho hippie vibe, gorgeous embroidery and funnily enough, she was pregnant when she wore it too.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Morgan]

She made me feel so loved and welcomed. So I accepted. The issue is my mother in law has a daughter, my sister in law. And when she found out that I got the dress. She was furious. She actually came over to my house trying to take the dress back and even said I was living in sin for getting pregnant before marriage.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Morgan]

My fiance kicked her out and told her not to worry since she's always thought the dress was ugly and never wanted it anyways.

[Tommy]

Oh, there you go.

[Morgan]

Still, she and my father in law have been harassing me on social media and through messages.

[Amanda]

Oh my God.

[Morgan]

Even though my fiance and mother in law don't care what my sister in law thinks, I kind of feel like a jerk. Because if my mom did something like this, I'd probably feel a little hurt by it too. So am I the asshole?

[Amanda]

Wow. Okay. This was as juicy as I thought.

[Tommy]

This is very juicy. I wanna say immediately that she's not the asshole, but if I were in her position, I would just, I'd give the dress back.

[Morgan]

Really?

[Tommy]

Also, why doesn't she just take out the dress?

[Amanda]

I was thinking like of the original one. Modify the original dress if you can.

[Morgan]

If she might not have enough fabric. Cause like, there's only so much wiggle room to play. I mean, you could add panels. Like, you could add panels. Like a well qualified seamstress could definitely make it work. Might be hard to match fabric, but might be expensive.

[Amanda]

There's a lot of hurdles there.

[Tommy]

Why is the mother in law letting the daughter act like this?

[Morgan]

Well, the father in law too.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Is messaging her too.

[Amanda]

I would just give the dress back.

[Morgan]

I wouldn't. Oh, I wouldn't.

[Tommy]

No, I know, I know. I'm with you too. Cause it's just like, fuck that.

[Morgan]

She thought it was ugly and hated it. This is like a little kid with a toy. I want the toy now.

[Tommy]

I agree.

[Morgan]

You have the toy.

[Tommy]

But it's like, what do you, what do you want to deal with? Do you want to deal with this harassment while you're pregnant and it's already stressful and getting married?

[Amanda]

I just wouldn't want that energy brought into my wedding day. Same because I feel like if I had the dress on, I was wedding. They'd be like, oh, well, I see you're wearing the dress.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Morgan]

And I'd be like, those comments.

[Tommy]

What if she made a contract with the sister and she was just like, I will give back the dress if you write in this contract with lawyers that you promised to wear it on your wedding day.

[Morgan]

I like that idea.

[Amanda]

That's funny. Lock her in on the dress.

[Tommy]

I'll give it back to you. If you're gonna wear it, you have to wear it on Your wedding day and sign this contract.

[Amanda]

You're gonna harass me online. You better be wearing this dress.

[Morgan]

I love that. Actually.

[Amanda]

That's kind of iconic.

[Morgan]

There's no way she would sign though. And like, of course.

[Tommy]

So then you keep the dress.

[Morgan]

I know.

[Tommy]

Or maybe she signs and doesn't do it, which is just even worse. Living in sin. Get out.

[Morgan]

Okay. I for.

[Amanda]

I totally spaced about that part.

[Morgan]

Spaced that comment out.

[Tommy]

Like, living in sin.

[Amanda]

What?

[Morgan]

Ma'am, Ma'am, this is not the 1800s.

[Tommy]

Yeah. What are we talking about? Wow. This is man.

[Morgan]

Also, a good Christian would not hurt thy neighbor.

[Tommy]

Exactly. Turn the other cheek.

[Morgan]

Treat others how you would like to be treated.

[Amanda]

So you want to. You would say hold onto the dress.

[Morgan]

I would. I mean, your mother in law, like, she gave this to you. And I think she kind of would know where her daughter is at. If there was context where like op was like, I know my sister in law, like isn't getting married anytime soon, but she's dreamed of wearing this dress. Then I would say give it back.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Or if she even liked the dress and there was a chance. Yeah. Okay. Don't open up that can of worms or that, you know, drama. But she thinks it's ugly.

[Amanda]

She doesn't like the dress.

[Morgan]

She doesn't like the dress. She wouldn't wear the dress and she.

[Tommy]

Just doesn't want her to wear it.

[Morgan]

This person loves it. Comments on the beautiful embroidery, the hippie boho vibe. It's a dream for this person and she gets to bond with her mother in law. So it's like it's clearly in the right home. But how do you get past dealing with these crazy people? Yeah.

[Tommy]

Contract.

[Morgan]

I love this idea. I think this would be like, fine, I'll wear it first and then you have to wear it on your wedding day. Or are you saying your contract? You're like, I would be like, I.

[Tommy]

Will give it back to you and not wear it if you promise. And we're going to put something leverage. Like there's leverage in this contract that you have to wear it on your wedding day. Like that's even. That's really petty. But also what they're doing is being petty. And also this dress belonged to the mother in law. But there always is that thing with like married and daughter versus real daughter. There's. Those are real things. Luckily I don't experience it with my mother in law. She is unbelievable and incredible, but like, I couldn't imagine if I had to experience that. So that's why a part of me is like, at first was like, just get back the dress.

[Morgan]

Because like, yeah, we have a little context. Yes. That I think you will be excited to hear. So someone goes, right. Why can't they both wear the dress? I love this idea. Op, see if your fiance can propose this idea to her. You are lucky to have such a great mother in law and your sister in law may come around eventually. Someone goes, sister in law doesn't even like the dress. She doesn't want to wear it either way. So Op responds to this comment and goes, she is in her second marriage. Maybe she can wear it for her third. Wow.

[Amanda]

Iconic.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Amanda]

Love that.

[Tommy]

Okay. She's not giving back the dress.

[Morgan]

She had two opportunities to wear that dress. This is her second marriage. No shame.

[Amanda]

No giving back that dress.

[Morgan]

But she had two opportunities.

[Tommy]

A contract. Don't give her back the dress.

[Amanda]

Absolutely never. Give that. Do not give that dress up.

[Morgan]

She had two chairs.

[Amanda]

Very important, Very important.

[Tommy]

I needed to hear that before I drew up the contract with my lawyers.

[Amanda]

The lawyers. You can. You can tell them they're dismissed. Actually won't need to go home.

[Tommy]

They're like, ugh.

[Amanda]

Okay, okay.

[Morgan]

Hold that retainer, guys.

[Tommy]

Wow, that's iconic.

[Amanda]

To be like, she can use it on her third.

[Tommy]

What an asshole.

[Morgan]

Insane.

[Amanda]

So what? So what is she getting at? Like, is it truly just like, oh, you're being shown affection from my mom and I'm not?

[Tommy]

Yes, I think so.

[Amanda]

That's all. That's all this stems from.

[Tommy]

It's something that she feels like is in the family and hers and she doesn't want someone out of the family to have it.

[Morgan]

Bingo.

[Amanda]

That she's getting married.

[Morgan]

Bingo.

[Tommy]

But this woman isn't accepting it.

[Morgan]

No. And some people don't even look at like, when it comes to heirlooms. They don't think heirlooms can be passed down by a woman that marries in.

[Tommy]

Correct.

[Amanda]

It has to be blood.

[Morgan]

It has to be blood. Like, some people are goofy like that. So Op does have a comment. She never wears anything like this. It doesn't match her vibe or style, and she's already married. I think this dress is expensive and she just wants an heirloom or something on the money.

[Amanda]

Amanda, that'll do it.

[Tommy]

People get very possessive over heirlooms. Like, the biggest fight siblings have is when their mom or father dies and they go through their stuff.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Like that is so intense. Especially jewelry.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Woo.

[Morgan]

The fights over stuff like that. I mean, people come out of the woodwork when family passes.

[Tommy]

It's like they don't talk at all to the person. And then they're like, oh, that home. I mean, once you get homes in. What's my cut exactly?

[Morgan]

What's my cut?

[Tommy]

It's really sad.

[Amanda]

Never been more excited to be an only child.

[Tommy]

Yeah. You never have to deal with that. You're going to get everything.

[Amanda]

My dad's signed baseballs.

[Tommy]

And you're going to put on in your one bedroom.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I'll put it right there. Y.

[Morgan]

Honestly, baseball wall, like looks pretty cool.

[Amanda]

It's got three baseball.

[Tommy]

It feels, it doesn't feel like it connects with you at all.

[Amanda]

I'm like, I could space them out really? And have it be a baseball.

[Tommy]

I don't feel like it's you at all.

[Morgan]

You might have to get some more sports and me.

[Amanda]

You don't see the connection there?

[Tommy]

Not baseballs.

[Amanda]

No. I don't look like someone who moves too fast.

[Morgan]

Really? You give coordinated energy.

[Amanda]

That's nice.

[Tommy]

No, you coordinated.

[Morgan]

It's coordinated.

[Amanda]

I'm not a dancer, but I can move.

[Tommy]

You can move.

[Amanda]

No, I always. I drop something at least like five times a day.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Same klutz.

[Morgan]

Don't hold on.

[Amanda]

My limbs are longer than I think my phone.

[Morgan]

I'm like this thing. I go through screen protectors like no other. Bang, bang.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

All day, every day.

[Amanda]

I don't, I don't have a case or a screen protector which is.

[Morgan]

I know you're raw dogging that.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I sure am.

[Morgan]

What?

[Tommy]

He's living life.

[Morgan]

For someone that drops something five times a day. That's insane. I know. I don't know. Living life on the edge, but a little scared.

[Amanda]

Yep. Just a little kooky like that.

[Tommy]

Very scary.

[Morgan]

Very scary shit. Yeah, there's. There's a couple other comments from op. Kind of just elaborating on mother in law, father in law dynamic. Dynamic with sister in law. Mother in law and father in law have been divorced for 20 years.

[Tommy]

Oh, they're not even together.

[Morgan]

Not together. Father in law and sister in law did not even congratulate them when they got engaged or announced their pregnancy.

[Tommy]

Done. Keep that dress.

[Amanda]

These are like monster people. Like little villain, little side character villains.

[Morgan]

Coming in to be like fiance doesn't even really talk to his. His dad.

[Tommy]

Oh, then F that.

[Amanda]

So these are strangers coming in, being.

[Tommy]

Willing just wear the dress. Fuck that.

[Morgan]

Yeah. And there is, there is some like history behind the mother in law and this dress and being pregnant during her wedding. Like it does kind of have a sad like resolution.

[Tommy]

Oh no.

[Morgan]

And so like for the Mother in law to even offer this up, OP finds even more meaningful. Like this was such a sentimental big deal for her. And so to be looked at as family and offered this dress, I find so beautiful.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I think because of the comments, OP comes to some senses and starts to get a little mad at sister in law instead of feeling bad. Yay. Top comment. Not the asshole. Sister in law can feel some kind of way about you wearing the dress, but her behavior is out of line. It's sweet that your mother in law offered you the dress. I love that for you. In my view, sister in law could view eventually also wearing the dress as something special you share instead of reacting like this. My mom and her two stepsisters all wore the same vintage read, hand me down dress and they cherished it.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Morgan]

And then that's where OP gets into the fact that this is. This would be for her third wedding. She's 39, you know, but she had two chances.

[Tommy]

Oh, yeah. She doesn't wanna wear the dress.

[Morgan]

No. So not the asshole.

[Tommy]

Did she wear the dress?

[Morgan]

Did we find out this is a month old.

[Amanda]

So we got two. We gotta check back in two months.

[Morgan]

We gotta check back. There's no update on this one.

[Amanda]

Wear the dress.

[Tommy]

Wear the dress.

[Morgan]

Wear the dress.

[Amanda]

Wear it every day.

[Tommy]

Wear it every day.

[Amanda]

It's the only thing you wear now.

[Tommy]

Oh, that's a lot.

[Amanda]

You are a cartoon character and you wear the same thing every day. And it's that dress. You deserve it.

[Tommy]

You're so right. Cartoon characters never change their outfit.

[Amanda]

They don't.

[Morgan]

I wish I could go through life like that, just knowing what I'm going to wear every day.

[Tommy]

I. I mean, it's a bunch of.

[Amanda]

Black and beige stuff, so everything kind of matches all the time.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Except for today. I'm wearing.

[Morgan]

No, that's me. And then I have this thing. I'm like, it's got a power pack on it even.

[Tommy]

Oh. Us talking about lights, like starting a fire. You have lights on your sweater.

[Amanda]

Sweater lights turn on.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I think.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Saved it till the end of the EP to give us a little girl light chill. That's awesome.

[Morgan]

Yeah. It's gonna be for my thumbnail now, but one last comment.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

To double down the wear the dress. The sister in law has called the dress ugly and tacky and just said, you must have a lot of emotion attached to that dress.

[Amanda]

Oh, wow.

[Tommy]

And she doesn't wear that dress because weddings are emotional.

[Amanda]

Yes, they are.

[Tommy]

They're sentimental and emotional. Hello.

[Morgan]

Insane. Insane.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

These stories made me kind of rageful.

[Amanda]

Yeah. A lot of them are like, wah, wah.

[Tommy]

Merry Christmas.

[Morgan]

I love the little feral sound effects.

[Tommy]

It's feral. He's feral.

[Amanda]

Wear the dress.

[Morgan]

Thank you guys so much for coming on.

[Tommy]

Thank you for having us.

[Amanda]

Thank you for having.

[Morgan]

Where can everyone find you both? Obviously, you're on Smosh. It'll be linked. But where else can people find you? Because you're. You're funny. You just had, like, a big comedy show the other night.

[Tommy]

I did a live show. We did our podcast, Smoshmouth at Dynasty, typewriter. 10,000 people watching. I just found out this morning. Oh. Live stream.

[Morgan]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

And then a full audience. It was so unbelievably cool.

[Morgan]

That's incredible.

[Tommy]

Could not do it on our own. Like, we had a whole team helping us. It was unbelievable.

[Morgan]

You have an amazing team at Smosh.

[Tommy]

Like, such an amazing team. It was really beautiful.

[Morgan]

Your holiday party, I got to go to. I'm like, everyone is so nice. I just adopted me. It's just like. You just have great vibes. Everyone. It's.

[Amanda]

I mean, come in.

[Morgan]

Amazing.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Literally, come in whenever.

[Morgan]

Don't tam you the good times. I mean, seriously, don't tam you the good time.

[Tommy]

I gotta have you on Smashbox.

[Morgan]

Yeah, you just say when, girl. You just say when. But where can everyone find you both?

[Amanda]

When is this coming out this week? That's wild. Okay.

[Morgan]

I have quick turnaround times here.

[Amanda]

No. Like, no.

[Tommy]

I love that.

[Amanda]

Okay, well, it's not out yet, but in the new year in January, mid January, Go check out my YouTube channel, tomeybones. T O M E Y B O N E s. I've got my second season of serving C word, which I won't make you censor here, where we look at stupid pictures of stuff and decide whether they're C word or not. And Amanda's gonna be the first episode, so if you like this dynamic, it's so good. It's a lot of fun.

[Morgan]

Congratulations.

[Tommy]

I love this show so much. It was so fun shooting it. It was easy for me because we just are nutty together.

[Morgan]

I literally have the perfect picture to send you. Did you see that quarterback that he just got his first start in the NFL and all of his pictures, he's serving punt. Like, he's like, oh, I love that.

[Amanda]

We do inanimate objects on my show.

[Morgan]

Oh. Or anatomy.

[Amanda]

Or, like, small little animals. Like, oh, my God, Amanda's.

[Morgan]

This is so good.

[Amanda]

Amanda's things were fans.

[Tommy]

Fans.

[Amanda]

Blackwater sea creatures, which are just like, Microscopic sea creatures photographed at night. And cocktails.

[Morgan]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

Cocktails.

[Amanda]

Anyway, so that's where you can go. Check me out at Tommy Bones everywhere. Yeah.

[Morgan]

Okay. Yay.

[Tommy]

So good. Mine is at filming Amanda. Very cool name. Came up with it years ago and it's still awesome.

[Morgan]

No, honestly, no, it is good. And to get that handle that seems really.

[Amanda]

We're filming Amanda right now.

[Tommy]

We're filming Amanda right now. So, yeah. TikTok, Instagram. And then of course, you can find me on the podcast.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

At the Smosh Smosh Mouth with Shane top. It's really fun. And we always have Tommy on. It's so fun. Well, we don't always have you on Three times. He's been on there three times. Four times, which is big.

[Amanda]

That's big.

[Tommy]

Huge. That's where you can find me.

[Morgan]

I love it. Thank you both so much. This was amazing.

[Tommy]

I love this.

[Morgan]

Oh, this is so good. And thank you all for being here. This is one of the last episodes of 2024.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

It's insane. Like, what this show has shaped into is incredible. And I appreciate all of you so much. I'm not gonna cry, you know, right now. So I love you guys. Be sure to head over to Patreon. We have lots of other holiday stories. You get to meet my editor Jenna, this month. Month. But other than that, until next time, bye.

[Tommy]

Bye.

[Amanda]

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[D]

Lights are going up. Snow is falling down.

[Amanda]

There's a feeling of goodwill around town. It could only mean one thing. McRib is here. People throwing parties, ugly sweaters everywhere.

[D]

Stockings hung up by the chimney with care. It could only mean one thing.

[Amanda]

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[Morgan]

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[Tommy]

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[Morgan]

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[Tommy]

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[Morgan]

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