201: Any Upside to Evil? Ft. Gabby Windey

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Hot Takes - Episode 201: Any Upside to Evil? Ft. Gabby Windey

Host: Morgan Absher
Guest: Gabby Windey
Release Date: January 30, 2025

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Introduction and Guest Welcome

In Episode 201 of Two Hot Takes, host Morgan Absher welcomes special guest Gabby Windey, a multifaceted personality known for her roles as an ICU nurse, Denver Broncos cheerleader, and reality TV star on shows like The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, and Dancing with the Stars. The episode delves into the theme "Any Upside to Evil?" where Morgan and Gabby explore and dissect some of the most intriguing and controversial stories from Reddit's AITA (Am I the Asshole) subreddit.

Notable Quote:
B [04:10]: "Today's host is the lovely Gabby Windey."
Gabby [04:12]: "Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited."

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AITA Story Analysis

The core of the episode revolves around analyzing listener-submitted AITA stories. Morgan and Gabby provide their candid and often humorous perspectives on various relationship dilemmas, offering listeners both entertainment and insightful commentary.

1. Setting a Budget for Sex

   • Story Overview: A 33-year-old man asks if he's in the wrong for refusing his stay-at-home wife's request to set a financial budget for their sexual activities, viewing sex as a duty rather than a mutual pleasure.
   • Discussion Highlights:
     • Gabby humorously critiques the idea, questioning the normalization of commodifying intimacy.
     • Morgan expresses concern over the underlying issues, suggesting the couple seek therapy to address deeper relationship problems.
   • Notable Quotes:
     A [10:16]: "I love her."
     B [11:08]: "You're pimping yourself out, ma'am."

2. Blackmail Folder Dilemma

   • Story Overview: A user discovers that his girlfriend has a folder containing compromising information on various individuals, including potentially his own. He grapples with trust and the implications of such a finding.
   • Discussion Highlights:
     • Both hosts express shock and concern over the ethical and legal ramifications of possessing and potentially using such information.
     • They debate the appropriate steps the user should take, emphasizing the severity of the situation and the potential dangers involved.
   • Notable Quotes:
     A [29:11]: "You should be worried."
     B [33:32]: "She could jump from blackmail to murder. We don't know."

3. Creating AI Porn

   • Story Overview: A 29-year-old woman discovers that her long-term boyfriend is creating AI-generated pornography featuring women he knows in real life without their consent. She seeks advice on how to handle the betrayal and illegal actions.
   • Discussion Highlights:
     • Morgan and Gabby condemn the behavior, labeling it as a severe violation of privacy and consent.
     • They discuss the lack of current legal frameworks to address AI-generated non-consensual pornography, advocating for victims to seek legal action and support.
     • The conversation touches on broader societal issues related to technology, consent, and the importance of setting boundaries in relationships.
   • Notable Quotes:
     A [46:17]: "It's totally illegal."
     B [50:21]: "I think this guy's maybe sick and twisted."

4. Whispered "I Hate You" in Sleep

   • Story Overview: A 37-year-old man recounts an incident where his 28-year-old partner whispered "I hate you" while he was asleep, leaving him confused and concerned about the true meaning behind the words.
   • Discussion Highlights:
     • The hosts explore the psychological aspects of the statement, questioning whether it was a genuine expression of anger or a manifestation of deeper issues within the relationship.
     • They emphasize the importance of open communication and addressing underlying tensions to prevent such distressing incidents.
   • Notable Quotes:
     A [61:57]: "She is vindictive. She prefers to ruin someone's life."
     B [74:17]: "Men need to talk to each other more in general."

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Rapid Fire: Obscure Reddit Titles

Towards the end of the episode, Morgan and Gabby engage in a rapid-fire segment where they tackle more unconventional and humorous Reddit story titles. This segment showcases their chemistry and ability to think on their feet, providing light-hearted relief after intense discussions.

• Examples Discussed:

  • "What is the worst response to I love you?"

    • Morgan: "The worst response is probably, 'I don't love you. I hate you.'"
    • Gabby: "Maybe just silence as well."

  • "If aliens visited Earth, what's the first thing we should show them?"

    • Morgan: "I'm like, my tits."
    • Gabby: "You're nude."

Notable Quotes:
B [93:05]: "I love that. God, this has been so fun."
A [94:44]: "Let all of the other universes know and tell them to follow me on Instagram if they have any kind of brand deals that they're willing to give from outer space."

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Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the episode, Morgan and Gabby emphasize the importance of communication, consent, and mutual respect in relationships. They highlight how misunderstandings and unaddressed issues can lead to complex and sometimes harmful dynamics. The discussion also touches on the ethical implications of emerging technologies, such as AI in personal contexts, urging listeners to be vigilant and proactive in safeguarding their privacy and well-being.

Notable Closing Thoughts:
B [87:24]: "There should be some gay dudes in there, but they're probably lurking."
A [90:44]: "Don't try and make excuses for this guy or make it normal."

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Conclusion

Episode 201 of Two Hot Takes offers a blend of serious relationship advice, ethical discussions, and humorous banter, all anchored by the dynamic interactions between Morgan Absher and Gabby Windey. Their ability to dissect complex Reddit stories while providing relatable and entertaining commentary makes this episode a must-listen for fans seeking both insight and amusement in their podcast experience.

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Transcript

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[B]

Just your reminder to subscribe. And it's a little bit longer of an intro today, so, hey, check out the markers if you want to get into the stories. Thanks, guys. Enjoy the episode.

[A]

Will they not even forgive me, but understand, like, I'm not PC, you know? So, like, don't come here. Come, come here if you want to be offended, but don't come here, like, looking for, you know, good takes. They're all terrible.

[B]

Okay. I love that this is the energy we're starting off with today. This is going to be so, so good. And I know hearing you say this, I know I picked the right theme for you.

[A]

I'm so excited because. Is it still like Reddit?

[B]

Like Reddit.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And a lot of people get scared.

[A]

Because, like, you know, I'm a Reddit sleuth.

[B]

Are you?

[A]

Yes. You know, sometimes when you're so hungover, you need to feel something and preferably it's like something bad.

[B]

I feel so sad about how much I drank and blacking out that I just need to feel worse about something else.

[A]

Right. Like, I need to have some kind of emotion and I need a distraction. So one time I watched my ex boyfriend's wedding live on Instagram stories when I was hungover. It did the job. I felt. I felt all right.

[B]

I would have needed a padded room.

[A]

Yeah. No, literally, I should have been admitted to the hospital.

[B]

Oh, checking yourself into the ICU where you.

[A]

So then when I was on Bachelorette, I did a similar thing. I was so hungover, I forget where I was, but I was in like an Airbnb. And then I looked up my name and it got the job done. It was terrible. And I haven't been back, thank God, because that's.

[B]

That's a form of self harm that should not be repeated.

[A]

Yeah, no, I agree. And like, haters means you made it. I know it's trite and it's like. But like, cardi B I feel like is wise in some ways and I don't know, it just really rings true. It's like if you hate me so much and you're going to talk about me, like, why are you thinking about me so much?

[B]

Thank you. You know, that's the question I. I've been asking.

[A]

Yeah. Because the people I will never be solved. No. And the people I hate the most or like, not hate, but want to talk shit about, like, I am incredibly jealous.

[B]

But are you?

[A]

Kinda.

[B]

I see the one, like, person that I'm just like about. Like, I. Well, there's actually no. There's more than one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I just, like, I literally pop up and I'm like, I'm not jealous at all. I actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel so much pity.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

Maybe pity is not the right word.

[A]

Like, just, like, what actions on their end make you feel pity? I don't. I don't know if I feel. Yeah.

[B]

I'm just like. I feel so bad.

[A]

You totally. Because this is coming from a bad place.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you're just such a bad person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I know how bad of a person you are. And other people don't, and they like you. But.

[A]

No, I like having that insight too. Like, I like being on the right side history. I'm so. I told you so. Oh, I will never keep it in.

[B]

I have such a hard time. My mom and my brother just, like, got a new couch recently. And I told them, I was like, that's not gonna fit. I was like, that's not gonna fucking fit. And they get it in the house and it doesn't fit. And they go.

[A]

And you're like, yes.

[B]

I go. I literally go, I told you so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, I just needed one. I just needed one.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

But our theme today, which, first of all, guys, you might have recognized her amazing voice or her beautiful face if you're watching on YouTube. But today's host is the lovely Gabby Wendy.

[A]

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

[B]

I'm blown away. I did. I told you. I did, like, a full deep dive on you because I, like, I hate not being prepared, but, you know, you have lived so many lives.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

ICU nurse, Denver Broncos cheerleader.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On the Bachelor. Then the Bachelorette, which splitting a season. They robbed you. Then Dancing with the Stars. You got robbed. You should have won.

[A]

Yeah. It was a national upset. People just like. Yeah. They just like, these things blow over.

[B]

Your dancing was insane.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now you're on Traitors, which also. I'm obsessed.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I'm just like, this is the greatest show. How have I never seen this? I'm just like, I'm blown away by you and like, every clip I watch. Like, first of all, I love how much you scared Alfonso on Dance with the Stars.

[A]

Oh, my God. He was the best.

[B]

He, like, didn't know how to handle you, and he was like, you could tell he was kind of scared. Like, what's Gabby gonna say next? But then, like, just all of your clips. Like, you are so emotionally intelligent.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Like, you really are just tuned in and with it.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

I don't want to. I don't want to go to your head too much, you know?

[A]

No, my head can barely fit. But I'm like, it does come with side effects. Really? Yeah.

[B]

I think empathy kills.

[A]

Literally. I wish I could back off a little bit. Well, and what's your sign?

[B]

I'm a Pisces, which I was offended you said Pisces. Better luck next time. I was like, this bitch. Maybe I don't like her so much.

[A]

Oh, my co bachelorette Rachel is a Pisces.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So. But other than that, I haven't really met a lot, honestly.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're just at home crying, literally.

[A]

I'm like. It just like, feels like you're very emotional.

[B]

I'm already crying. Yeah.

[A]

Actually. Are you okay?

[B]

No, I'm a laugh crier. It's concerning.

[A]

No, that's the best.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I love when people laugh, cry. I did it once the other day.

[B]

I'm just like, okay, literally, why did I put bottom mascara on?

[A]

But back to emotional intelligence. Sometimes I. It's like it teeters on the line of judgy. I'm just like, oh, my God, there's no hope for you. And then I'll continue to pick apart in my head. So I'm like, I'm trying to come off of that. I'm not judging you.

[B]

Okay, thank you. No, I already being perceived.

[A]

Oh, my God. I already like, like you immediately. Obviously, me. Come on. Imagine I passed a Gabby bar. No, I know this is so crazy, but I don't want you. I don't know if I'm setting the tone. I don't want you to think that I like, came in here and said, and I'm like, you know, this is my show. Yes. Okay, Please, like, just. I'm going to put a muzzle on.

[B]

No. Un. Muzzle. Unfiltered. I want bad takes. I want devil's advocate. I want it all.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Today's theme. Because obviously you're on Traders right now. And I literally, before I started watching the show, I was like, okay, good theme for Gabby. Like, maybe it's friend or foe. Like it's a slippery slope, a fine line. I started this show and Alan Cummings is literally like friend or foe. And I was like, the fog.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This feels meant to be. But the more I got into these stories, I'm like, it's very clear. A lot of them are faux. A lot of them are very like, evil. So I'm. I changed it a little bit and what I'm working with right now, it could change by the time it comes out. Sometimes my titles do, but it's more along the lines of like, is there any good in this evil? Is there silver lining here? Yeah, because as you will see, these people are unhinged.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But maybe there's a little.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Upside. Maybe not totally, but you and your emotional intelligence, I feel like you would be the one to find it.

[A]

Yeah. Let's hear it. Now I'm like getting nervous.

[B]

You got this. You're gonna crush it. Let's dive in.

[A]

Don't.

[B]

Oh, how do I want to start you off today?

[A]

Give it to me.

[B]

Okay, this one is coming from. Aitah. Am I the.

[A]

Basically, these I love because I feel like if it's always a woman writing in, they're clearly not the. This is from my data, which is pretty good.

[B]

Did you do a double blind study?

[A]

Yeah, I did all the research in my head. I'm obviously unbiased. Being a raging Misandra.

[B]

Is that what people tell you?

[A]

No, self proclaimed.

[B]

Okay, yeah. Taking it on literally, which I just.

[A]

Found out what that word meant. Like maybe. Yeah, maybe a couple months ago. I'm like, what is this new word? Misandry. And I've. How have I not been using it by now? But if a man writes in, he's always the asshole.

[B]

We're gonna see. This first one is coming from a guy.

[A]

Okay, let's see.

[B]

Am I the asshole? My wife wants me to set a budget for sex as a part of her stay at home mom role.

[A]

What is. So he's going to pay her for sex.

[B]

She wants him to set a budget.

[A]

I think that's genius.

[B]

I, male, 33. I'm the breadwinner in our family of four, my wife is a stay at home mom. And it's a decision we both agreed on. I take care of everything financially. Food, clothes, bills, household needs, et cetera. Problem is, my wife wants me to set a budget for sex, meaning she wants to get money for it as she considers it a part of her stay at home mom duties.

[A]

I Love her.

[B]

Her absurd and unreasonable suggestion. Now, demand has caused a huge fight between us. She said it is her right since she'd work all day and take care of the house and kids. Then. Then she has to stay up at night so we can have sex together. And it's exhausting for her and time consuming, as she put it.

[A]

She's giving me ideas.

[B]

I felt extremely upset and disappointed in her behavior, but she says she's in the right and that I'm being too selfish to see it. She keeps demanding it, but I refused. Am I the asshole here?

[A]

I mean, I don't know if you're an asshole, but your wife clearly doesn't like you.

[B]

I. I just. I'm like. It feels a little goofy to, like, charge your husband for sex.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, you're. You're pimping yourself out, ma'am.

[A]

Right. But it's like, what a safe space to do it. Like, I'm all about sex work, and she literally is giving me ideas. I'm gonna take this home to Robbie immediately. Like, I want to have compensation, but I mean. Yeah, they're always like. It's about communication. I mean, she's communicating. Yeah. And it's like, she's thinking about sex as a job. It's not something that she willingly wants to do for pleasure. It's like, is he making her come?

[B]

No.

[A]

Right. No. There's, like, things left out of the story if the sex is her just sucking your little dick for however long. Like, she deserves compensation because it is a part of her housewife duty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're going down on her for hours, doing your due diligence, then maybe the price could be lower. But I still think there could be a price.

[B]

$5 per blow job. Just a little something. Here's a coffee, babe.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I. I don't know.

[A]

Like, I.

[B]

So I just went to Amsterdam for the first time.

[A]

Oh, did you go to a sex show?

[B]

I didn't. I was a little intimidated.

[A]

We went. Robbie, Was it good? No, it was. It was traumatizing.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. We. We went to this one that was highly recommended by me.

[B]

Which one? Because there's like. I'm trying to remember the names now. There was a Moulin Rouge there.

[A]

Oh, it definitely wasn't that.

[B]

And there was like. Oh, what was the one that was. Really? There's a bunch.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like. I wanted to.

[A]

This one was packed. It was mostly packed with dudes, like, red flags, sitting in the corner in a very suspicious position. I know. Robb were immediate like, like, oh, my God. Don't get too close. We can't let anybody know we are lesbians because, like, we don't know what's going on here. Highly recommended by her lesbian friend who was just there, who was obviously very. What do you call it when you're not getting a lot of sex and you're sexually deprived? Yeah. Or like, angst.

[B]

Frustrated.

[A]

Yeah. I am having word finding issues, which is, like, par for the course. So she's sexually frustrated. Sat for 3 hours at this show. You can just go. Anyway, she gave us the wreck. We.

[B]

Hours.

[A]

Yes. It was like. I just always think, like, yeah. Are they being well compensated? Do they have the right to say no? Like, that was immediately where my mind went, because this guy's dick was a weapon. It was huge. It was. It could, like, penetrate her chest cavity.

[B]

Oh, my God. She could have been kebabbed. Like, literally. Literally speared.

[A]

Yeah. And just, like, balanced.

[B]

Honestly, though, would you rather have that or. Well, now you're with a woman, so, like.

[A]

Yeah, you're. No clit is like a micro dick. A micropinous is the equivalent of a. So, like, if. If your boyfriend has a tiny dick, just be a lesbian. It's way better.

[B]

You heard it here, guys. I Literally. There's one person, and I. I thought about this the other day because, like, a friend of mine texted me. She's like, I got blackout drunk and had sex with someone. I don't remember it, and it's not like me. And I'm like, it's fine. You're not gonna think about it again.

[A]

Yeah. Because you don't remember.

[B]

Well, that. Or like, you forget it until times like this. But, like, I'd rather have, like, the kebab fear versus, like, the. The one where you, like, turn around. You're like, is it in? Because you can't even feel it.

[A]

Right. No, that's terrible because that's just a.

[B]

Waste of a number.

[A]

Right. You're like, feel. You know, is this actually happening? Or, like. And naturally, as women, you just want to, like, take on the blame.

[B]

I know. Why? Why do we do that?

[A]

I know. Exactly. I'm like, is. Is my pussy to a gape? Like, am I the problem?

[B]

That word, gape?

[A]

But really, it's them. One time I had a pencil dick come right at my belly button, and then I immediately flipped on and I was like, holy shit, I think I have a stomachache and I rolled over.

[B]

So smart, though, that you got out of it. Yeah, I just, like, was like, I'm too far Gone.

[A]

Totally. I mean, you have to experience it.

[B]

You do. But back to this one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Should she be able to charge and should he have to set a budget?

[A]

It's definitely not normal to ask for compensation for sex with your husband. But it's like, I want to know where her mindset is because. Yeah, I feel like if it feels like a duty for her, there must be a reason behind it. So it's like, naturally like a man. I don't think he's giving us all the information. I do think they need to go to therapy and talk about it and, like, figure it out. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not for it or against it.

[B]

I'm very curious about the context. I will say. Like, when I was looking for stories this week, I think there's an epidemic of bad sex or, like, unequal sex.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The amount of stories I saw from, like, please help me be attracted to my boyfriend. We've been together for seven years and I've never come.

[A]

Yeah. Be a lesbian, seven years. Why are you not making her come? Like, have you ever heard of a vibrator? Do you not believe in toys in the bedroom?

[B]

No. Like, you so many don't. I personally know multiple dudes. We've, like, as a friend group, sat down and had this conversation. They do not look at toys as okay. They think it's, like, replacing them and it's competition. It's like, yeah, no, it's like, you're.

[A]

So insecure to, like, think like that. It's like, Robbie doesn't even have a dick and she makes me come more than any man. Why?

[B]

Why are they so threatened?

[A]

And I just, like, I see I can't have an unbiased.

[B]

There's that misandry.

[A]

It's the misandry. And it's like, I love audacity.

[B]

If so you like it. You're.

[A]

I'm like, is like. And being a stay at home mom is not easy.

[B]

Hardest job there is.

[A]

Yes. You get to leave the kids and you. I can barely take care of, like, the house. I'm so exhausted when I come home. But it's like, you get to leave. You know, I used to be a nurse and, like. And the moms would be like, no, this is a break. And our job. Our job. What? You know, working in the hospital was grueling. I'm like, oh, my God, what are kids like? If this is. If this is like your respite like.

[B]

That, it makes having kids sound so great.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Do you want kids?

[B]

Like, I I go back and forth all the time. I'm kind of, like, in the, like, the position of, like, if it happens, it happens. I really don't want to be pregnant. Is, like, my problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, that concept, like, really freaks me out. Like a little thing, like, potentially breaking my legs. Making my.

[A]

Or breaking your. What the. Oh, my God. Are you expect.

[B]

Some people's pelvis breaks when they come out. Yeah, breaking my ribs. Some people lose their teeth. Your hair falls out where.

[A]

You got to get off Reddit. You got to get off Reddit.

[B]

Have you seen the girl with the list?

[A]

No, but she. This is. Yeah, as women, we are meant to have kids because. Also to contribute to the many lives. I am a dropout of sorts, which I think adds to my resume. I went to a year and a half of midwifery school. I was going to get my masters.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool.

[A]

It's a. It's a fun word to say midwifery. Yeah, that's why I did it.

[B]

It's a good pronunciation.

[A]

Yeah, but. So we learned a lot about pregnancy for. For someone who doesn't want kids. Like, I am extremely interested and cannot stop talking about, like, my vagina because I think it's a complex creature. I don't think we talk about it enough.

[B]

No, we don't.

[A]

Just, like, so much is going on, and, like, I feel like I'm coming from a scientific standpoint, so it's, like, more educational. But anyways, as a woman, we are meant to have babies. I don't know what this girl's doing losing her teeth. She needs to go to the dentist. No.

[B]

Like, the baby needs so much calcium, and if you don't have enough, it just takes it from your teeth.

[A]

What about a calcium supplement?

[B]

Some people don't do it until it's too late and the teeth are just gone.

[A]

Okay. I do think this is, like, yes, an abnormal case, but I'm the opposite. I. I want to be pregnant, but I don't want to raise it.

[B]

I'm looking for a surrogate. No joke. Yeah, but no, it's really. Women's bodies are just so incredible. You'd really get into pelvic floor therapy. Yeah, you should really get on that.

[A]

I fuck with Keels.

[B]

It's a part of it.

[A]

Yeah. I want to do a dumbbell.

[B]

Oh, my God. You're giving that new show with Amy Adams night, bitch.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Have you seen the trailer where she's like, I can crack a walnut in my vagina. That's literally gonna Be you just carrying around a dumbbell.

[A]

Yeah. I hear you can put a dumbbell on the end of it.

[B]

What?

[A]

I'm. I'm thinking a five pounder. Like one of those ones you get on Amazon that has that, like, weird material around it that you can, like, use at home.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I know.

[B]

You know what you should just do is just use the balla.

[A]

What's the ball of?

[B]

You know those ball of bangles that everyone was obsessed with during COVID The little arm weights?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They make, like, a pill. It literally looks like a beet pill. And it's, like, workout material. Silicone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They have five pounders.

[A]

See, and it's like, a size everyone knows. I don't have, like, actually any pelvic floor issues. It's, like, totally fine. If you're wondering, Robbie has nothing but good things to say.

[B]

So, like, they. Plus report cards, people.

[A]

Yes. This, like, purely curiosity. Totally. I just, like, like the idea of it.

[B]

I'm like that, too. I just, like, wonder about things like. Like pegging. It's kind of one of those bucket list things. Like, everyone. If you don't get curious about, like, obscure and random things. What are you doing?

[A]

Right. What is there to live for?

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Might as well be gone tomorrow, right? Just running the rat wheel. Come on, mix it up a little.

[A]

Right? Yeah. Peg your husband.

[B]

Let's go. Oh, my God. We were. I'm just going off the deep end with you today.

[A]

Please hit me.

[B]

We literally. I don't know if it's appropriate for online. Well, we'll reconvene.

[A]

No. Yeah, you can bleep. Yeah, that's my problem, is I don't know what is appropriate for YouTube. I'm like, I'm not even monetized, so I can't get demonetized. But I'm definitely on to get you monetized. I'm definitely on that. That route because I'm screaming things, I guess, that I shouldn't be screaming.

[B]

Honestly, though, people love the chaos. So, yeah, let's just plug it early. If you want another amazing podcast to listen to. Long winded.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

On YouTube. Clearly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, let's get her monetized, people.

[A]

Actually, please do the Lord's work. I was a nurse for eight years, living paycheck to paycheck. Like, my God, give me a break.

[B]

And you were chilling at the same time as nursing, weren't you? Which, like, you don't get you. I've heard some NFL teams have to, like, buy their own uniforms.

[A]

Like, all of them. Yeah. The first thing when I first made the cheer squad, and we have to, like, go over our contracts and documentation. Literally, the first clause was like, we are Denver Broncos Cheerleaders, llc. So immediately they're setting the tone that you are not a part of the NFL. Would do it again and again and again. I love my tits in my chin. Like, that is so empowering. And shout out to the Victoria's Secret Bombshell bra. Hey.

[B]

Yeah, there we go.

[A]

Literally, we kept him in business. But, yeah, no, we don't get paid anything. I think. I think as a cheerleader and as a nurse, I was making around $40,000 a year. 40 to 45.

[B]

Like, literally one of the most valuable professions we have. Nurses, teachers, and, like, why. Why do we pay them so poorly?

[A]

Yeah, I know. Terribly. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Moving along to the next one.

[A]

Okay. Hit me.

[B]

Oh, my God. I didn't even read the top comment. I'm just.

[A]

I know. That's what I have right now. This is what I want to hear. I know. They're gonna be like, whatever. She shouldn't be doing that. Like, so lame.

[B]

Honestly. So I read it as sex, because I knew what word. Yeah. But he wrote it as S comma X. Like, he felt like he couldn't say sex or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the top comment. You can say sex on the Internet, bud.

[A]

Literally. As it should. Because it's like, I love when people comment like that on Reddit because immediately they're like, this is so throwaway.

[B]

Nobody gives a next one info. Does she have any spending money where she is not accountable to you for what she spends it on? It may just be that she has no breathing room when it comes to money and wants some that is hers for whatever she wants.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't think about that. Maybe there's some financial abuse here, and this is, like, her last law and chance to get an allowance.

[A]

Totally. Because. Right. Because then he should already. 1. He should address it, and he should already be, like, understanding that. And to. I don't know. I'm. I'm obviously full of shit. And speaking from a place of. I don't know. But it's like, who cares? Just pay her. But that. I understand that it would make him feel like. Like it's more procedural, but this already feels procedural.

[B]

Like something here is clearly not right. Right. Like, I don't think she's being satisfied. Because otherwise, if you were being satisfied and it was, like, a mutually beneficial thing, which is what sex should be.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You wouldn't ask for money for it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

I know, I know.

[B]

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[A]

Oh, I'm speechless. A blackmail folder.

[B]

Let's get into this one. Okay, so I've been with my girlfriend for about six months, and we've had zero big issues. We have opposite personalities. I always try to be chill. And she's more strict and more of a decision maker. She comes from money and works for her family's corporation. And she's told me that it changed her brain chemistry because she has to work really hard to be taken seriously because of her age and relation to the business.

[A]

Can relate as a nurse. So you start young and nobody takes you seriously, especially doctors. And it's like, well, what did you hire me for?

[B]

She's someone that has to have control over every decision and has a way of getting her way, even with something as simple as deciding where to eat. This hasn't bothered me too much until I found out the extent of it. She has a laptop that she guards with her life. I don't know why, but the other night when she got up to pee, she didn't close it properly. And I just jumped into Snoop while she was in the bathroom. I don't even know what I was looking for, but I found a blackmail folder of everyone from her business partners to friends and family. She had a folder on her uncle having a gay sexting session. Had a folder on some random guy cheating on his wife. I don't even know how she got it. She had screenshots of her friend's old tweets, and I even found a folder on what I think were my initials, but I couldn't open it before she got back again. I never had any issues with her, and I was going to keep dating her, but now I'm genuinely worried.

[A]

You should be worried.

[B]

Maybe paranoid. Yeah, I haven't done anything bad, but what if she took pictures of me without me knowing or something like that? Oh, my God, I'd be so embarrassed. I don't.

[A]

Then you could be a victim, and people love victims, so, like, don't worry.

[B]

Okay, well, there's the good and the evil.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. I feel like I need to go back to. So she must have learned something along the way through working with her family's corporation. That's, like, making her extra vigilant.

[B]

What is this corporation? The CIA?

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, it could be. Yeah.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

Spy.

[B]

That's what it's giving.

[A]

Like, what is going on? And then I understand, like, nobody takes her seriously, but I don't think that lends itself to blackmail. But maybe she's just been, like, so in the past that she's ready to someone over. But, like, I don't. Do you watch Real Housewives of New York?

[B]

No.

[A]

I see clips. Yes. So Dorinda has this amazing, amazing saying that she's like, say it, forget it, write it, regret it. It's like things in print. I know. It's so good because if you, like, say something kind of, like, up, like, people will. For, like, it's like, whatever. It'll blow over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have more context. It's not that, like, what? Like, you know, it's easier kind of just to forgive and. And maybe understand. Everybody does it differently. But if you write it, that's, like, in stone. Yes. And that's what she has on her computer. So it's like, why can't you just keep it in your head? Can't you just make mental folders in your head and, like, talk when you need, like, her paranoia that she has to have, like, folders on the computer? I would be afraid.

[B]

I would be terrified.

[A]

Yes, you gotta get out. And how.

[B]

Before is how.

[A]

Yes, before you get out, you have to delete your folder.

[B]

But don't you think she could just get it again?

[A]

Right. She would back that up.

[B]

Like, she's. Oh, she's got a hard drive copy of this. I mean, the fact that she has her uncle's sexting conversation.

[A]

Yeah. How'd she get that?

[B]

She had to get into his phone, screenshot it, and then send it to herself. Like, she's good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And in a bad way. But, like, she's good at what she's doing and so.

[A]

No nersy. So nosy, and so curious. It's like, who has the energy? I just cannot. What? Find the energy literally, for anything else besides, like, getting up in the morning and coming here.

[B]

Oh, thank God you came here.

[A]

Yeah. I just cannot be bothered.

[B]

No, I get that I'm flaky. I'm so flaky. Like, this is nothing about you, but, like, sometimes I'll have people coming on, or, like, I have to do something, and I'm like, God, I just hope they cancel. I just want to stay home today.

[A]

All the time. Every time. Yeah. It's always fine when you go. You're like, oh, my God, I love my friends. I love my community. Yes. But before, it's hard pulling teeth to get there, literally. But it's like, yeah, how does he get out?

[B]

Literally? Because you have to do it in a way where she's not mad at you. You have to make it. It's her idea.

[A]

Yeah. I think you blackmail the blackmailer.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

I think you mental gymnastics backflip. Full twist your way out of the relationship. Get a file on her.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Get the blackmail.

[B]

I mean, you have the ultimate blackmail. Because, you know, she has the blackmail, like, arc, Right? Like, this is like Noah collecting all the little animals. Like, she's got this locked and loaded.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like if you just are like, hey, saw that, right? Didn't love it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go and just slow, like Homer Simpson, fade into the bush.

[A]

Yes. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you. If you blackmail me, I have stuff on you. If you try anything, like, you just really can't because he. He honestly has the power.

[B]

I hope he realizes that he probably Won't. Because, like, this could go so wrong. Like, I mean, you never know what someone like this is capable of. Like, genuinely, I'm like, okay, I know I'm spiraling a little bit, but like, yeah, who knows? She could jump from blackmail to murder. We don't know.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

So you have to like, set it up where you're like, if I go missing or something happens to me, there's an automatic email that gets, yeah, you gotta like trip her up a little bit or. Yeah, option B. Have you heard about weaponized incompetence?

[A]

Oh, no, but this is gonna be my new favorite word.

[B]

Okay, maybe it's literally.

[A]

It's when people play dumb or they.

[B]

Purposefully do things wrong or bad so they never have to do it again. So you see this a lot on Reddit in like, like relationships. And it's like I asked my husband to like, help with the laundry and every time he does the laundry, he ruins my clothes. So I can't have him do it anymore. Like, people will up on purpose to not have to do it.

[A]

That's evil.

[B]

I think that would be option B to get out though.

[A]

Yeah, that's actually diabolical. How would he weaponize and.

[B]

Oh, everything.

[A]

Yes. She would just blackmail him. She would, like, get receipts and be like, he's doing this stuff on purpose. She would twist it. And this is the problem. As much as I'm a raging misandrist also, there's like, it. It just like it takes one sometimes. There's like one woman who fucks it up. It's like, Elizabeth Holmes, you really gotta ruin it for us. And she's like, on that path. So it's like, come on, girl. Yeah, I think maybe like a fade out. I was thinking like a cheating scandal.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

And he could get ahead of it. Take. Yeah. But then I think it would really set her off. So it's like, not safe. It's. It's kind of like whatever. Going into a lion's den. Yeah, that's possible.

[B]

I don't know. I'm. He's. I'm concerned for him.

[A]

Yeah, same for his safety. You think he's gonna get murdered?

[B]

I do. I'm like, you never know.

[A]

Too bad Reddit's anonymous. We could like, put him in it. Maybe he should go in a witness protection program.

[B]

He should look into Witsack. Honestly. Top comment with and upvotes. Break up with her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She seems like a vengeful person and readily armed to destroy whoever betrays her. Just tell her in these six months You've really enjoyed the time you've spent together, but you realize you're entirely different people. You respect and admire her work ethic, but you're not so organized about every single detail. You're carefree, chill, laid back, and prefer a lifestyle and partner who can match your personality. That you both do have opposite personalities, and in the long run, you don't see this truly working out. Basically, tell her something she can believe. Lie if you have to and run. Don't even bother deleting that folder or bringing it up. Leave as amicably as you can. Do not piss her off. Yeah, she is vindictive. She prefers to ruin someone's life. This is not wife material unless you're in the mafia.

[A]

Yeah, I kind of disagree. I absolutely disagree that she should delete the file because what's she gonna do? Get mad at him for Black? For blackmailing him? It's like, I don't think that's gonna happen. And I don't. I don't know. I'm like, does he blow it up and confront her? Get the receipts? I do think. I think he should blackmail the blackmailer. I think he should set up hidden cameras, capture the folder. Yeah. Because there' to. And then go first, get a restraining order. She's going to do some crazy. Get the. Get the. I think we need to get the law involved, take her to court and then take her down. He needs to be stacked with a plan. There's no way that he's going to be able to get out of this amicably. I feel terrible.

[B]

She's going to stalk him after. Like, even if he did end it amicably, I think she would. Would still keep tabs on him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For this folder.

[A]

Yeah. He's for life.

[B]

She has her friends, old tweets.

[A]

Why are you trying to blackmail your friends?

[B]

Your friends?

[A]

Yeah. No, you need to, like, have their back.

[B]

It's so strange.

[A]

Yes. Like, I support women's rights and wrongs. Like, that's where we're at these days.

[B]

Well, we have no update from opinion, so.

[A]

He's so damn bad. So fucked.

[B]

There's no comments.

[A]

When was it? How long ago Was it posted?

[B]

17 days ago.

[A]

Yeah, no, he's like, he could be dead.

[B]

He could be dead.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it's not going well for him. And sometimes I wonder. Sometimes I can be a victim, blamer. I hate that about myself. And unless. Unless you're a woman. He's not. So. And like, largely you guys, I do have his back. Give me a break. But Also, there's.

[B]

There's jokes.

[A]

Yeah, there's jokes there. Aren't there clues in the beginning? It's like, how do people get themselves in situations like this?

[B]

This, to me, feels like. I don't. I don't think you ever would have known.

[A]

You had to have known.

[B]

Like, what if you go home tonight and you find out that Robbie has a folder on you? You.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, would you have known? Were there signs that you could look back now and be like, you know, she was screenshotting a lot of my text. Yeah. Like, yeah, I think sometimes you just get sucked in and it's blindside.

[A]

I stare at Robbie's phone. She doesn't even have a lock on her screen. And every time she.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What about pickpocketers?

[A]

She doesn't care. She. One time she got her phone stolen on the airplane, and it's like, whatever. We just. Like. I know.

[B]

She.

[A]

I don't know what. Maybe she doesn't have a hidden folder. My icloud was leaked or hacked, and my nudes were almost leaked, and I.

[B]

Did you pay a ransom?

[A]

He wanted me to, but, you know, he wanted me to send him more photos. He sent me back my leaked nudes. This could have been the best day of my life. This could have catapulted me into fandom that we could not expect. I was begging him at this point, taunting and teasing even. The police called me the other day, and they were like, do you want me to close this case? And I'm like, absolutely. Don't go after this man. I need him to leak my nudes because the picture he sent back to.

[B]

Me was so hot.

[A]

Was. So I had fake hair in my extensions. I was like, really?

[B]

Like, this is the one.

[A]

Literally, I was inspired by Love Island UK Girl, this gets me.

[B]

The Playboy spread.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Sports Illustrated. Yeah.

[A]

My hair was down to my ass. I had practice. It was a tasteful nude. I think you could maybe see a centimeter of a nipple. So I'm like, baby, yeah, get out there. I'm like, please leak this. But it was in my. It was in my hidden folder, and so he got in there. I don't think Robbie has a hidden folder. And. And she would just fully. Like, she knows my password, too. She could go through my phone, and I could go through hers.

[B]

Gabby, there's someone. Like, this is you. This is. This story is you.

[A]

No.

[B]

Someone hacked you and has your intimate stuff in a folder. A blackmail folder.

[A]

Yes. But we're not dating.

[B]

No. Like, you.

[A]

Part of the story.

[B]

There's that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I'm like.

[A]

And they called me. And then it was like, this is sick and twisted. It was from. Or. I had found out that they were hacking from Houston. And I was like, oh, I want.

[B]

To be on a flight there.

[A]

My mom lives in Houston. And we're strange. And I'm like, what a story. If my mom leaked my nudes, it could compound my astronomical fame, and I'm a serious victim in a sick way.

[B]

Hopefully your hacker sees this.

[A]

Yeah, I've been talking about it. I've been. I'm like, for so long. I'm like, please pay attention. Leak the news like I'm dead.

[B]

I'm just like, I'm crying again. This is just so good. Wow. Well, everyone say a little prayer for Gabby.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That her nude gets leaked.

[A]

Please, please, please, please, please, please, please. People are like. They would DM me and be like, ugh, I know you're coping with humor. And I'm like, bitch, I'm not coping. Like, no. Like, there's nothing to cope.

[B]

No. I'm actually more pissed that it hasn't happened.

[A]

Right. Like, we need this for ourselves. I'd also like to retire in four years, but, like, I don't have a savings account. I have an ira.

[B]

Well, that counts.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Jenna, my editor over here, she's like, I need to start an ira. And I'm like, yeah, it is time.

[A]

It.

[B]

Yeah, you got it. You're doing good, right?

[A]

Yeah, I think it's fine.

[B]

I want to get on, like, the Stonks subreddit again.

[A]

Stonks. Stonks with an N. Yeah.

[B]

They call it Stonks instead of stocks. Yeah, but I want to be, like, on that. Like, remember GameStop? Like, let me in on some GameStop type action. Like, I want to tank meta and then. And then buy it when it's really low. And like, yeah, I just want to be. I want to be in on the stonks.

[A]

Do you do crypto?

[B]

No.

[A]

Surprise.

[B]

I don't believe in crypto.

[A]

That's surprising. With the Gamestop, I would have for sure thought you'd fuck with bitcoin crypto. Yeah. Do you know the crypto queen?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's not that interesting. Anyways, that's fine. Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

No, no. Well, who knows? Actually the XY species chromosome is going downhill fast. The Y chromosome is losing its genes literally by the second.

[B]

Is it really?

[A]

Yeah, they only have 50 left and they started with like, I don't know, 51. I think they started with like a thousand.

[B]

Is that just like a lack of diversity in breeding? Yeah, it sounds so weird to say, but I'm like what is what?

[A]

I don't know. It's like this is nature versus this is just our nature happening. I want to say natural selection, but I don't think that's the right word. And by the second, I mean it'll take a million years for the Y chromosome to fully disappear. I hope I'm back in some kind of life.

[B]

Oh, just to see it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm not around a lot of men. I've noticed daily. My manager is a man. Surprisingly he's a real one. And my dad and that's about it. So I do not know what dudes are up to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are doing AI porn. That is.

[B]

Let's get. We've got a little more. We've got a little more.

[A]

Yes. Getting ahead of myself.

[B]

I found out that my 2019 male boyfriend of 8 years is creating AI porn with women he knew from college, possibly his co workers, etc. I am betrayed, humiliated, and disgusted. I can't believe he thinks his own pleasure is so important that he can violate the safety, privacy, dignity of unsuspecting women who are not consenting to this. Also, it feels pretty illegal.

[A]

It's totally illegal.

[B]

Or at least it should be. Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out. Is this something that most men are doing now? Now, do I just have to accept that this is what porn is now? I'm aware that I should walk away if it's something I'm not okay with. What I'm really trying to figure out is if most men are doing this. I would really appreciate honest input across genders.

[A]

And this. Sorry to interrupt. This is what women do. We try and make excuses for disgusting behavior. That should not be the first thing. I mean, I'd. I hope to. To God I'm looking at you men that you're not creating AI porn. I have your back for once. I think this guy's maybe sick and twisted.

[B]

This is sick and twisted.

[A]

Do not try and. What do you call that word? Not. Reckon.

[B]

You'Re looking for a big one, though.

[A]

I am. I can't. I can't figure it out. Don't try and, like, make excuses for this guy or make it normal. Go to the police. Yeah, this is like revenge porn. This, it, feels it. It.

[B]

Yeah, that's the one thing.

[A]

Like.

[B]

And I know it kind of got brought into the light, but it hadn't until this thing. But Taylor Swift, they were making, like, AI, like, very graphic images. Porn, like, in nature of her. And then she was the first one to, like, be like, okay, no, there needs to be laws about this. Because as of right now, I don't think there is.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

Because AI is, like, so on the verge of, like, all of this. Like, our government, like, right now cannot keep up with how fast technology moves. You want to ban TikTok because you're scared of China, but everyone flocks to RedNote, which is actually communist China. Like, literally, you can't keep up with it. And, like, that's kind of where they're at with AI, it seems. So I'm like, I don't know if this is illegal, but this is sick. And all of the women, they deserve to know because I would want this person and who's creating AI deep fake porn of me. I wouldn't want them near me ever again. This is gross. You're getting. You're getting off on me and playing it like, you're just my friend. Or a co worker.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Literally. Why can't you, like, keep your dick in your pants? Why do you have to, like, make porn out of people that you're close with in real life? Part of me is like, if you're not sharing it, it's not as like, maybe it's okay. No, I'm kidding. It's.

[B]

My God. Imagine if he is, like, posting it on pornhub or something.

[A]

No, I bet he is. This guy knows no boundaries.

[B]

Well, to, like, have the technology and know how to do this, that's also, like, such an investment. Like, you just went above and beyond any normal guy. Yeah, like just going on pornhub and looking up porn.

[A]

No, he's proud of his work. You know, he's sending it to all of his sick friends because who is he surrounding himself with, for one. And. And I know. I didn't realize that about AI, but it makes sense in, like, lawmaking and stuff, so. But like, this. I mean, how many, like, upvotes does it have on Reddit? Is it.

[B]

The post is 2 months old. It's only got 1.1k upvotes.

[A]

It feels miserable.

[B]

It feels like it flew under the radar.

[A]

Yeah, naturally, because it has to do with, like, women being abused and they're. They're right. Rights. But it's like this story. If she could go public with it, she could be the one to probably lead the lawmaking. Or I'm sure there's a loophole that it's like, even if it's not AI, there should be a way that it could categorize itself into something illegal. Please.

[B]

It does. I bet you could put it in revenge porn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially because there's no consent from the other parties, obviously.

[A]

Right. But then, like, like, Whoever's defending him, Sick 2.0 is going to be like. Well, it's not actually their faces, you know, which, like. Yeah. Makes it even worse. Oh, my God. This.

[B]

She's got to break up.

[A]

She. And she has to expose him.

[B]

100.

[A]

She needs to go undercover. This girl needs to meet the other guy.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Who has the blackmail. They need to come together, figure out a plan how to blackmail these people, get out safely. Because. Yeah. I feel like. Well, I mean, she can't have that stuff. She needs. She's got to steal his computer. She needs a plan in place. Yeah. Take the computer straight to the cops.

[B]

100. Yeah, 100.

[A]

Block him. Block. Delete. Restraining order.

[B]

And they've been together for eight years. Eight years.

[A]

And she just found it. How did she find it again? So she's so down bad. She's like, I love this guy. It's like, did you hear the story of Giselle Pelico?

[B]

No.

[A]

In France.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh my God, this is so sick and twisted. It doesn't even.

[B]

Oh my God. The woman whose husband.

[A]

Yes, yes. And they were married for like 30 years. Yes. It's like, can you imagine?

[B]

No.

[A]

The love of your life, you're betrothed, doing this crazy, like going way of the way, coming up with this sick, depraved plan.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, you wouldn't believe it.

[B]

No. Like if my fiance did like anything like this or like I'm like, he's such a unicorn. Like he's, he's such a gem. And like I, I imagine that's what these people feel like, like, right. The love of my life, my person, he's so supportive, has my back. Like, and to find out something so gut wrenching, despicable, like, right. No. It would crush me as a person. This is why I think we need to bring the electric chair back. Back. Yeah, like, no joke.

[A]

Yes. Like, yeah, buzz his ass.

[B]

People need to be scared of their. Of consequences again.

[A]

Yeah, no, actually. And like, don't go easy on him. I feel like they should do it multiple times. Yeah, yeah. No, it's. I was going to say. Oh, yeah. Giselle Pellico, her husband, like, cuz she was having symptoms, you know, of like lethargy and blackouts and stuff and like losing her hair. He would take her to her doctor's appointment and like try and figure out what's going on. So he was like feigning. Yes. I'm like, oh my God. The, the level of personality disorders and sociopath that is like embedded in these people is insane. But this, and it's a lot of responsibility. I don't think you always have to take on the responsibility, but if she's listening, you could lead this because now people are going to do it now.

[B]

That they have this, this technology.

[A]

Right. And idea from Reddit. It's gonna happen a lot.

[B]

No, I feel like even just I'd get on the local news.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like you don't have to name him, but like, like, hey, this is out there. Like, I don't even know. Like, I'm just, I'm a little distraught over this one. There is no good in this one, I guess.

[A]

Like, no.

[B]

The fact that she found out at least and is not gonna marry this person because after dating for eight years, like, that's the path you're treading.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

Top comment on this one.

[A]

Yeah. No, wait, no. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Literally, just no.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. And I do believe it.

[B]

I think, I believe that this is real.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think this is a troll post.

[A]

No, no, no. I believe it's real. Yeah. No. One time I tried to do the math of Sophie Rain, the only fans girl who made like in one year.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

But it's like, I know. I want to know her subscribers and how much they pay because I, I was high, naturally. So I was trying to like make a formula to see how many subscribers she had. And basically I learned that maybe it was the size of the city of Denver. I can't tell you. I was reading fake news.

[B]

Wait, I want to. What's her name? Name?

[A]

Sophie Rain.

[B]

I'm gonna look. I want to see.

[A]

And it could then on Reddit, naturally there were conspiracies. Like, this isn't true. It's a marketing tactic from her management and they're telling her to say these things. So more girls were will sign up for only fans. I'm like, okay, I believe that. But I'm wondering if there's dudes that. And like not saying that all dudes who subscribe to only fans, like, will make AI porn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it could be a gateway drug.

[B]

I'm just lost.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

What is life?

[A]

What is life?

[B]

Well, I'm like, I'm also looking at her only fans. Like she's got a 50 off deal. So it's only five bucks.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

For a month. So to get to 40 million.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And she's only got only right. Like, only.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But like, I'm like thinking in terms of 40 million.

[A]

Right.

[B]

843K. Likes like the like.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Where is this? Y equals MX plus B. Like what. What's happening?

[A]

Right. Cuz I'm wondering if you can do anonymous. I'm. I'm like, maybe dudes are like flying under the radar and like not subscribing or not liking but still paying the.

[B]

$5 because they don't want to get caught.

[A]

Right. Because they're not being found out. Out. I'm. I'm sorry, that this, this is the XY chromosome. This is your brethren, not mine.

[B]

I think this is why, like guys need to talk to each other more in general.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I. My in for guys this year is like start really developing emotional intimacy with your friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because like, that's the problem. There's a lonely. There's a loneliness epidemic for men. And they don't have to. Like, they're putting themselves in this lonely box. And like, right, talk. Create intimate relationships. Like, yeah, talk to people and like check in with your friends. Like, hey, you're not creating AI porn. Right? That's bad.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Yeah, like check in.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Keep everyone in line.

[A]

Heard of this? Yeah. Because I, I think like they are trying to make up for the fact that they cannot be emotional for one another with sex. But it's like that. Because like, what is. Even though I was talking about a lesbian who is sexually frustrated. Whatever, forget I said it. Okay, I can have a double standard. I take it back. But it's like, is it, is there such thing as being sexually frustrated or is it an excuse to make AI porn? It's like, what do you mean? Why? How much do you, you know that thing where they told you in like junior high, like, dudes think about sex every five seconds?

[B]

I wonder if that's true for 30 year olds.

[A]

Right? And then I internalized it and I was like, I want to think about sex every five seconds. And I was like, humping the couch. But it's like internalized misogyny. We all go through it.

[B]

Do they tell us that though, in order to make sex more acceptable? Like, is that a condition? Is they trying to condition us with that statement?

[A]

Yeah, probably all subconsciously and maybe consciously. And this is the thing I could be. What's your demo? Like, you probably have men listening. Unfortunately, I have a lot of people that.

[B]

I do have some dudes. Hi, guys.

[A]

Hopefully they're all gay.

[B]

A lot of people listen with their partners, which is, that's something I really love hearing because it's like they can pause this and be like, what do you think of this? Like, you're not. You don't think AI porn is acceptable, right? Like, I think a lot of people use this as like a tool to talk to their partners.

[A]

Oh my God, I love that. Love, yes. And I even have like some fans that'll write to me. Like, I had one recently, which. Thank you. I can't. Like, I can't respond to all of them, but I do try. But I had this one that was like. Like we were watching Traders and my husband, My husband cannot understand you. And then we went on a deep dive through your Tik Tok and podcast and now he's a Stan. I'm like a convert. Yes. Those are my favorite. Cuz I'm like, an acquired taste is expensive. You have to have a mature palette. If you like mushrooms, you're Shelling out. So, like, I'm expensive is what you're saying?

[B]

I just, like, I don't understand how people couldn't back you. Like, your tik tok is hilarious. Like, every social media clip or any, like, media, I engaged with you in it. I'm like, I'm obsessed. You're so funny.

[A]

Oh, my God. Thank you.

[B]

So smart.

[A]

Thank you. Stop, man.

[B]

No, I just, like, I was like, we. We made the right person famous, you know, when, like, people joke about that.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[B]

Not that I. I mean, I got.

[A]

A knock on wood.

[B]

I became a recent fan. The chair, the chair, the chair.

[A]

You have this on purpose?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, thank you. And. And, like, I want to be on your side, but you're not doing yourself any favors. But I hope that the majority of men are not making AI porn.

[B]

I think. I think we're safe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say this is, like, a select right feel.

[A]

And if you are making AI porn with my face, let me see it before you release it here.

[B]

It could just hack her and just put it in her inbox.

[A]

Yeah. Me see, like, I might be on your team. Like, given what kind of positions, like what. What kind of art we're making, if it's tasteful. Right.

[B]

You could reconsider.

[A]

It could also blow my career up. I'm not against it.

[B]

I think traders. I. I just have a good vibe about this show. I'm obsessed. I literally watched the first episode, and then I had a dream. I didn't sleep last night. I had a dream that I got put in the show. That's how much I liked it. Like, so good.

[A]

They take AI with all my argyle sweaters.

[B]

And your fits were Scottish outfits.

[A]

Oh, my God. Thank you. It's like Alan coming in the background, rolling his R's. Just let me know.

[B]

I love it. Okay, moving along. Okay, I'm gonna give you some male on male crush crime. Ooh. This is also coming from relationship advice. It is titled, my partner, 28 male, whispered I hate you when he thought I, 37 male, was asleep. Do you think he means it?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Me, 37 male, and my partner, 28 male, have been together for seven years. Years. We've had arguments in the past and almost broken up more than once. The arguments have calmed down and gotten less frequent over the years. We had an argument today while making dinner. I put the dry pasta in the pot before putting in the boiling water from the kettle. And this really got him angry. I was supposed to heat up the water in the pot and Then put the pasta in. He stopped talking to me for the rest of the evening.

[A]

Sorry. You deserve it. Have you ever made pasta before?

[B]

He went into a different room and I went to bed at about 2am he came into the room and he thought I was sleeping and whispered, I hate you and walked back out. I tried to go talk to him at around 2.30am but he is not responding to me, just sitting on his iPad. He may be calmed down by tomorrow. What are your thoughts on this?

[A]

I think if he's on any kind of medication, he needs an adjustment. I hate to say when I'm in between meds or going, I'm upping my dose. This could be me.

[B]

The pasta just sets you off.

[A]

Yeah. But it does take a certain person who could be capable of more to whisper in your ear, I hate you. Or maybe it's like a kink. Like, this feels sexual to me and it might work. I mean, mean, for me, is this dirty talk? Because my mom also hated me. And, like, that works on me. It reminds me of my childhood. So I don't know. I'm kind of on. But you guys, I said, this is the part I don't like about myself. Like, some. I can be a victim blamer. I want to change it.

[B]

Oh, my God. See, I'm sitting here and I'm like, if my partner walked into the room when they think I'm a sleep and they whisper I hate you, I would be concerned. I'd be like, am I gonna get stabbed over pasta? Like, am I like, do I have to sleep with one eye open? Clearly? So I don't know. Like, maybe there's some people that, like, could get turned on by this. I think our writer could be in that boat because he doesn't seem scared. He's more so, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Do you think he means it? Or he literally goes, yeah, do you think he means it?

[A]

It? Yeah. These. They always ask the question, like, the wrong question. It's like, do you think other men are making AI? That's besides the point. If other men are making AI porn you. And it's like, yeah. If your partner is whispering I hate you while, like, what? I think I need more context. But, yeah, normal people would be like, I need to run.

[B]

Yeah, I, I, this is confusing. I think you have to, like, take people at their word more. I think a lot of people are struggling with that lately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We see it in, you know, politics and everywhere. Like, oh, well, I, I didn't think that was a, A salute. What do you. He was Joking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Take it for what it is.

[A]

Right? Like, yes.

[B]

No. Believe people at what they tell you.

[A]

Like, yeah.

[B]

If someone says they hate you, why do they do?

[A]

Especially as an adult. Like, as kids, we would be like, I hate you. I. I hate stinky, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, and that must hurt, by the way, if I did. This is also why I don't want kids. Because like, if they said they hate you one, well, actually they probably mean it because they have less of a guard.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And it's like, damn, how does that feel?

[B]

Kids are so honest. It.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're so scary. They're intimidating. Intimidating. Yeah, kids are really intimidating.

[A]

Terrifying. If I see someone high school age, I'm like, oh my God, are you judging me?

[B]

Oh, they are.

[A]

But I'm like, what the. Dude, you teeny bopper.

[B]

No. Every time I go out in public and I just look wrecked, I. I instantly regret it when I see a group of like, trendy, cute girls and like, you just feel that look that, like, literally. And I'm like, I should have tried harder today. I don't try hard for guys. I literally try hard for girls because.

[A]

Yeah, same. I know. Like going into Sephora on a quick stop.

[B]

No, I only order online now.

[A]

Oh, my God. Everyone, after school, 3:30pm, flooding Sephora. I'm like, I've never felt more self conscious.

[B]

That is another form of self harm.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Don't do that to yourself.

[A]

No, we have to stay away.

[B]

Online only. And you get better samples and little presents.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

They give you so many presents if you order online.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. Because you have more options.

[B]

Well, they like, oh, it's like spend a hundred, then you get like five free samples. You just get so much better stuff.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

They don't offer you that in the store.

[A]

No.

[B]

Because they already know they have you.

[A]

Right. So true. And then you get an options of like three. Like, one is the tiniest bottle of Purology you've ever seen. It's like, how much is. But that's like, if online, it's coming from the warehouse.

[B]

Well, and then you have to like, spend points. Like, do you want to spend a thousand points to get $10 off?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which, like, if you think about that, you spent a thousand dollars.

[A]

That's what points are. They're equal to a dollar. That makes me sick.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

I'm making myself sick. Oh, my God.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Oh, my God. See, these are things I don't need to know. These are things I'm better off not knowing. But back to the pasta. I mean, he really set this guy off. How long have they been dating?

[B]

Seven years.

[A]

Yeah. This probably isn't the first time it's.

[B]

Happened and they do have quite an age gap. He, our writer is 37. The person that hates him is 28.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They've been together seven years. So started at 21 and 30, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Very different life points.

[A]

Yeah. In gay men just don't stay in relationships that long when they're that young. Have you seen the posts that are. Yeah. Just like completely made up. You'll like get really into it in the comments are like, we don't believe this. This. And like calling him out and then like, whatever, taking it further. I'm like, I don't know about this.

[B]

What do you think about the actual, like, technique too? Because I feel like this is technique.

[A]

Of I hate you or the pasta.

[B]

The pasta.

[A]

The pasta is totally wrong.

[B]

I mean, I get it's wrong, but it also feels like a hack.

[A]

But the water doesn't stay boil. It doesn't stay hot for that long. Right.

[B]

I feel like if it's boiling from a kettle and then you put it on a hot stove, I feel like, like, I feel like this is kind of a like a. A hack. I don't love it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I think he should have poured the boiling water into an empty pot if that's how he wanted to do it, and then added pasta.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But like, I don't.

[A]

Is the heat still on? Is my big question on the pot. So if you're taking the boiling water from the kettle and putting it into a pot without the heat on, that's not going to work. You're going to have. Not al dente.

[B]

No. I'm getting distracted by. By this pasta. But okay. We have a lot of comments from op.

[A]

Oh, real. Oh, really?

[B]

Are you ready?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, this is the scroll. Okay. Here's the original post.

[A]

Huh. Wow. Yours goes backwards than mine. Did you set it up like that?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

My.

[B]

You get the post and then.

[A]

Yeah. And then I scroll down.

[B]

Oh my God. I get like the most recent to the oldest.

[A]

Yeah, same.

[B]

Maybe a setting.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But this is a lot of comments.

[A]

Yes. I love that.

[B]

A lot of comments. Comments. I was actually asleep and woke up when he came in. People were like, why didn't you just talk to him? Or whatever.

[A]

Right.

[B]

People are again, kind of getting into the. Why'd you add the boiling water? It's weird.

[A]

I'm dead.

[B]

Of course I know how to make pasta. I was making it the way I make it. Which was wrong in his mind apparently he came back in later on around 4 or 5am and said more mean stuff off. Oh he came in again at 4am to check on me and I can't sleep but I'm not moving. He whispered, you're a dick. Then again at 5am you should die.

[A]

This is all becoming really suspicious to me because why didn't he include this information in the original post? And at this point why wouldn't he call him out? And why aren't you sleeping? Like cuz you got into a fight?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Don't you have any meds on hand?

[B]

Some people go raw dog.

[A]

Don't you have like I have an emergency stash emergency every day I have.

[B]

Gotten like really addicted to the CBD sleep gummies.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

I just like don't get good sleep without them now.

[A]

Yeah, those are so good.

[B]

They're so good.

[A]

But I'm like I am starting to question him because it sounds like you know when people are like like whatever calling him out and then you like make up more points to kind of convenient right to back your story. Cuz it's like you're not going to call him out, you're just going to let him whisper in you.

[B]

Clearly he hates your guts and you need to break up.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I hope you die or whatever. Like a lot of people are asking too like well maybe you shouldn't have gone for someone so young. And OP does provide context. He went for me, I didn't go for him. Him. I think everyone has a different path in life no matter what age they are. Thank you for sharing your thoughts about wasting your 20s. Maybe that is how he feels.

[A]

Yeah. But I don't. I think it's way less about that. First of all it's. It doesn't matter who goes for who. You could still like not date someone that young. But it's not even about that. This guy is whispering concerning things in your ear while you're asleep. Sleep. So like I just don't understand why he couldn't call him out.

[B]

And I think he's trying to based on the comments. He's like I, I clearly know we need to talk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But he's ignoring me. And so I think like a lot of times in relationships, like if you have someone that's stonewalling you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's also an answer.

[A]

Right? Right.

[B]

Like if you can't have a conversation and be like hey, why did you whisper you hate me and that you hope I'll Die.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Quick question here. Like, just a little concerned.

[A]

You good, right? Like, yeah, yeah.

[B]

If you can't have that conversation, like, I don't really think you have a relationship to fight for.

[A]

No, not at all. I mean, if it were me and people and he, like, whatever. My girlfriend was whispering those things in my ear, I would quit quick. I don't even want to put in the context of my girlfriend. If I were him and my boyfriend was whispering those things, I would. Quick left hook, uppercut and get the out.

[B]

You gotta.

[A]

You gotta run, right? Why would you be comfortable sleeping in your bed while this guy. I mean, they're pretty threatening things.

[B]

Well, and this is the last comment I'll read, which I think is also really interesting. A lot of people are, again, talking based on age. Maybe he's resentful. Maybe he feels like he wasted time or is trapped.

[A]

Is that an excuse?

[B]

No people. No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so OP responds. It could be the case that he has grown resentful, but he is the one that wanted the relationship in the first place. I had just come out as gay and wanted to see other guys. He had already had two relationships before me. He didn't want me to see other guys. Guys and to be exclusive with him. So that's what I did.

[A]

I don't. This is all a distraction from the problem. I don't like.

[B]

I love that you can see through it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is like I get lost in the sauce.

[A]

Yeah. You're like, actually, it's just. Right. It's because you started dating at 21. You deserve to die because you started dating a younger man. Don't you know? But it's like, I don't think that excuses his behavior of. With. And like, who does that? What? That's why I think it's kind of a kink or a sexual thing because I feel like he's getting off on this. The boyfriend. The boyfriend. And low key. The OP and just wants to like, check in. Like, hey, he left that part out. But he's like, okay, what do you guys think? If somebody was whispering this in your ear and. And obviously people got distracted, but it's like, secretly he likes it. It's just a candidate. Think maybe he. Maybe he started the whole thing or.

[B]

This is like a really. I'm like, psychology over here. I'm like, if this is his first relationship with a guy.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe he also deserved to die.

[B]

Maybe he's like, really questioning. Like, wait, is this normal? Like, as crazy as that sounds. Right? But like, yeah, obviously, like, when you started dating your girlfriend. Like there's different norms in that relationship and different things you had to like, kind of like mentally like, oh, no, no, no. This is normal. And like this relationship versus, you know, like, I'm like, maybe there's like a little. He's kind of mental gymnastic in himself because.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It was his first. Is his first relationship.

[A]

Totally. Yeah, that could happen. But also that proves my point. Like, gay men are more kinky.

[B]

I don't even know what you're saying.

[A]

Actually. Yeah, okay. Totally.

[B]

I mental gymnastics myself. I'm like, wait, what? What am I saying?

[A]

No, because it's like this is his first relationship with a gay dude. So this could be totally baseline.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This could happen in the culture. And maybe this is the first time we're hearing about it as a community. How many upvotes does this one have?

[B]

Oh, man, I lost it. I'm so distressed over here. I'm crying again. Guys, I'm crying again. Oh my God. I literally lost the tab.

[A]

That's okay.

[B]

Okay. It has 4.4k upvotes.

[A]

Okay, that's a lot. So there should be some gay dudes in there, but they're probably lurking.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh my God. They found out our deepest secret.

[B]

The top comment. I'm pretty sure he means he hates you.

[A]

Yeah, literally. Like you were saying, take people at their word.

[B]

Like, like the next comment. This is a wild guess, but you might just be right. An age gap relationship turned sour. You say surprised, Pikachu.

[A]

But like, nobody's concerned about the well being of this guy and the partner saying these crazy things to him while he's asleep. It's like, it's like. You know, what's it called when you're sleeping and you play something and it's like it gets into your brain subconsciously by osmosis, kind of.

[B]

Oh my God. It was like, what is that?

[A]

There's a word for it.

[B]

It's. They. They're on tapes all the time. And like there's that episode of Friends where like Chandler's trying to quit smoking or something. Yeah, it's like you're a strong, beautiful Affirmations man.

[A]

It's like a trans psychosis. Yeah, literally.

[B]

No, hypnosis.

[A]

It's like a type of hypnosis, but it's like, no, it could be psychosis. But anyways, maybe the boyfriend is trying to do that while he's asleep. So he'll wake up and be like, oh my God, he hates me.

[B]

I should break up.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, maybe this is a passive Way.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Also, I hope all of these victims are listening to this podcast and they can collaboratively learn from each other's stories. Because maybe the guy from the beginning with the crazy girl with the blackmail. Yeah. He could use this tactic too, subconsciously. Give her a message.

[B]

Honestly, it's all tying together today. Yeah, it really is. I need like a moment to decompress after this one.

[A]

I know. Oops. It's a lot to think about.

[B]

Oh, okay. Wow. I think I'm gonna give you a choice on this next one.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

I'm a little scared. So option number one. Am I the for calling my brother in law's wife insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister? Or I hooked up with my dead ex's sister on accident?

[A]

On accident? Yeah. On accident.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait, I have to pick one. To do what with? To talk about. Yeah.

[B]

Or four. I'll give you option three. Okay, i33, male. I'm developing a crush on my wife's cousin. How long until these feelings fade? I'll let you pick two if you want.

[A]

Okay, I'll pick the last two because I can't deal with the degrees of separation. And twice removed in the first one.

[B]

You're so smart, you'd get it.

[A]

Is it okay? Read it to me again.

[B]

Okay, so am I the asshole for calling my brother in law's wife? Okay, so his sister was married to that guy. She died insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister. So this new wife is coming in and like those photos, she's dead.

[A]

Oh my God. Wow. Yeah, I think I'll go with the two dead ones.

[B]

Two dead ones?

[A]

Yeah, because they're not here to. To defend themselves.

[B]

Okay, that's a good tactic. Okay, let's start with the complicated one first.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Am I the asshole for calling my brother in law's wife insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister? My late sister Anna was married to my best friend Josh. Together they had two children. My niece is nine and my nephew is seven. Anna died three years ago. Josh remarried one year ago. His crime.

[A]

Pretty quick if you ask me.

[B]

Justin, you better wait at least six years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

His current wife is Hazel. I'll confess it has been awkward and uncomfortable and my brother in law has admitted that he feels it too. We're still close. Still best friends too. But it's weird and hurts sometimes to see him with someone else. I'm happy he's happy, but Anna was my sister, so the emotions are a lot more complex. He does understand My niece and nephew have struggled to accept his new wife, Hazel. My nephew doesn't really remember his mom, but my niece talks about her a lot. And brother in law talks about her too. He has never wanted to forget her or erase her or let her memory fade. Hazel and I get along okay. We're not close. I admit that we don't really talk or engage much. There have been some weird moments. She didn't love me and my family being at the wedding or taking care of the kids that day. Brother in law asked. Yeah, she had wanted her parents to take care of the kids. She has also said she finds it weird that I'm Anna's brother. While I struggle with Josh being married to someone who isn't Anna, I'm also happy for his happiness.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A week ago, Hazel and I got into a fight and it has caused some extra tension. She told me she was uncomfortable in my house and that I needed to remove the family photos of Anna, Josh and the kids. And of Anna and Josh's wedding photos and even mine because Anna and Josh were in them too. I laughed at first thinking she couldn't be serious, but she was. She said she always looks to see if I still have them. And then said I should take them down and put up some of that them. Her and Josh and the kids.

[A]

Oh, my God, Hazel, you're giving us a bad name.

[B]

She also wanted me to remove the wall of Anna's art in our dining room. This is different paintings and drawings Anna did for me sl us over the years. She told me Anna's dead. Anna's the past and her, Hazel is the future.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wow. She doesn't really beat around the bush, does she?

[B]

I told her Anna is my sister, not her. And I can have photos of my sister in my home if I want to. She told me I can't deny her this because I even have childhood photos of Anna on the walls. And she's letting that go even though she feels they should be gone too. She said the kids see themselves in her kid photos and it's making her harder for her to get into their hearts.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She told me I have no right to make her so uncomfortable. Comfortable. I said she should not be this insanely entitled at her age 32. And that she should be grown enough to know she can't dictate other people's houses.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Josh came in and asked Hazel to go home early. He asked me to have the kids three days last week too, which we did.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Hazel didn't like it. And accused me of taking the kids out of spite. So I can fill their heads with talk about Anna.

[A]

Oh, my God. Hazel's gotta go.

[B]

She called me and asked. And an insensitive jerk.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Am I the.

[A]

No, no. For once, you know, for once you got me good. You're not the. She's obviously so insecure, which would be hard because I can't. I mean, clearly they got married way too early and they like, she's insecure and it doesn't sound like. I mean, I agree that you don't want to lose the memory of your late wife, but also. So it doesn't sound like he's so over her, which I don't know if you should ever get over her.

[B]

No. But I think that's like. That's a really interesting concept to me. Because it's not like they broke up. She died.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I don't know if, like, you ever get over someone that just died.

[A]

There's no closure.

[B]

Why can't there be enough room for both of you?

[A]

Right. Right. Which would be the choice you make marrying into that situation.

[B]

What was Hazel doing if she's so threatene. Threatened by a ghost.

[A]

Right. Yeah, literally.

[B]

Hazel, if you're not Hazel, if you're not stepmom material, don't sign up for it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That was a choice.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. And I feel like. I feel like something could be making her insecure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because. And naturally. Because also she. She's definitely not the woman for the job. But him, the best friend and brother in law. Law also is still very entrenched with the late wife's family. So it's not like he. Not saying you should move on. He. This is how he's making his choice is to still be very much involved with the. What's the late wife's name? We don't know Anna with Anna's life, so it would make it harder for Hazel. So it's like I feel like they just shouldn't have married. Married.

[B]

I'm. I'm like, actually confused how they got married.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You didn't get any sense, like the Josh guy. Josh, you didn't get any sense that this girlfriend, this new, you know, fiance, now wife of yours hates your late wife's family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wants to exclude them every step of the way.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's not just like, okay, this is his late wife's family. Like, that's reason enough to, like, join and still remain close. But like, that's also his best friend. Like, he met Anna, his Late wife. Because they were besties.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like what?

[A]

Yeah, no, totally. That's not just like going to go away. That doesn't like, leave your life. And. And the guy, the op is like very involved with the kids and like babysitting and stuff, which is like, what's the. Not dead ones, Hazel? I have recall.

[B]

No. Names are tough.

[A]

Now. I forgot what I was going to say.

[B]

Were you. Were you about to talk about the village?

[A]

The village.

[B]

Like, it takes a. Like he's got a good village.

[A]

Right, Right. I wasn't going to say the village, but that is a good point. Yeah, but now that you said it, it does. He needs to like, marry someone who's more chill and who gets it. Probably a widower.

[B]

Honestly. I've got a friend, she's super down to be a stepmom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She like, actually might prefer for it.

[A]

Yeah. But it. It same. That's what I always said. Like, if. Which I would literally pray to God and be like, I know there's a God if. If I married someone who doesn't want kids. And then I became a lesbian. And it's like, impossible. I know it's not, but I choose it to be. But it's like. Yeah. Even with the stepmom, like some. I think there's a really complicated dynamic with having a dead one, you know, because, like, there's. It's not like you kind of get to talk shit on the ex wife or get to have a relationship with her. If Hazel did. It doesn't sound like she does, but it's like. Right. And she can't just go into someone else's house and walk all over them. Like that's. She is like.

[B]

Yeah, she's being.

[A]

She's way too extreme. What.

[B]

What's like above entitled? What would like, be above that?

[A]

What would be above entitled? I don't know. Bitchy. No, I think that's below entitled.

[B]

Is there anything above entitled?

[A]

I don't know, but there should be. You're right. Controlling.

[B]

Definitely controlling. I'm going to need all of you to like, write in what is. What is above entitled? Because that is the level at which Hazel. That.

[A]

Right. Yeah. She just should not have married into that. So. And it's hard thinking, right, if you guys really love each other, but like, yeah, you should have maybe faced these issues before. Or he needs to sit her down and be like, look, this is what it is. We can like, work through it together. Yeah. But this behavior has got to stop. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Hazel wouldn't take that well.

[B]

No, but I don't really give a fuck about Hazel.

[A]

No, me either. She's gotta go.

[B]

I mean, I. The bright side of this, like, at least she kind of likes her step kids. I'm like, okay, she wants them in her heart or whatever that weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thing was, but she's still trying to destroy any memory of their mom. Which is.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Psychotic.

[A]

Yeah. Which I think she has mal. Intentions for wanting the kids to like her. I think she wants to be above the wife. She wants to be loved more.

[B]

I'm your new mommy. Energy.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Weird.

[A]

I know. Cuz she doesn't want any trace. But like, as a kid, I feel like you should be able to see where you came from, you know?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And like, hold on to the memory. There's. There's a place. I think there's a place you can. Or a way you can do both.

[B]

Yeah, I think so too. Top comment? Not the. Anna was your sister, not just Josh's wife. It's perfectly reasonable for you to have photos of her and her art in your home. Home. Also, especially with the kids, it's important for them to remember their mother and to see photos of themselves with her. Hazel may be their stepmom, but it sounds like she's trying to replace Anna in the minds and hearts of Anna's own children.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gabby, you were on it.

[A]

I know. Hazel. Yeah.

[B]

They go on to say, that's a red flag for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. And the talk needs to be had with Josh. It's one thing to remove Anna from Josh and Hazel's home. It's a whole level of crazy to remove from Op's home. And that's like.

[A]

Yeah, you think about that.

[B]

You're like, wait, okay, let's just. That like asking someone to take down stuff that's on their wall.

[A]

Right. Especially art. Like, it doesn't even have her face on it. Art.

[B]

Art that she made.

[A]

Yes. Like, how petty are you? You're just jealous that nobody ever made you art. And like, you get to hang it in your home. And I know that feeling because Robbie's grandpa was a painter. He was a famous painter in Montre.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh. And so I get jealous that I didn't have a painter in the family.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[A]

That I. Yeah.

[B]

Maybe you just need to become the painter.

[A]

Ooh. Whoa. That's deep. That's really deep. But she is sweet because I'm like, We're like, speaking of death, we're like, I wonder what happens when we Die. And she's like, I bet you'll meet my grandfather first with open arms.

[B]

So she's saying, you'll die first.

[A]

Well, my thing is, is, like, she wants to live to 110.

[B]

Oh, hell no.

[A]

No. Ex. And I want to be in full control of my death because I am a control freak. So, like, I'll be of a certain age, but I.

[B]

How old do you envision?

[A]

Depends on my health. But, like, I'm thinking in my 80s and then all euthanasia myself.

[B]

Yeah. Going out by choice in Switzerland sounds nice. Yeah, I fully thought. When you were. You were about to say, like, I want to be fully in control. I literally thought you were going to be like, I want to be fully in control of my bowels. And, like, after that, it's over.

[A]

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Once I lose that, it's done. Which, honestly, it goes hand in hand.

[B]

I like, I honestly though, I thought about it because I also. I really have to pee right now, But I'm, like, wearing a diaper.

[A]

Yeah, no, you lose your integrity, like, when you go. When you're sick, and it's progressive like that. It's like the people who die in their sleep.

[B]

That's what I want to do.

[A]

Ideal. My same. I want to make myself die my sleep.

[B]

That's like. I just, like, I don't. Don't. I'm like, beggars can't be choosers.

[A]

Right?

[B]

But, like, yeah, my fiance's grandma, just great grandma, just passed away. She was 99.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In our sleep. Wow, that's ideal.

[A]

Is that luck? Or, like, how do you get that? Because I'm sure I don't have good enough karma.

[B]

My genetics are. They're not great. No. What are they not great? I got heart disease, cancer, bad hips. I got it all.

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, that's why you're so worried about your hip. Hips with. With baby birth.

[B]

See?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Break your legs.

[A]

Yeah, they're gonna come right for your legs.

[B]

Her eyes were gone, her teeth were gone. It's literally my view. Okay, one last choice for you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. I saved some, like, obscure Reddit titles that are, like, random rapid fire questions. Yeah, you can have those. Or. Or the I accidentally hooked up with my dead ex's sister.

[A]

Oh, my God. Should we do the rapid fire? Just because I feel like I can't turn it down. So it's like. And it's. It's an addition.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Up first. What is the worst response to I love you?

[A]

The worst response to I love you is probably, I don't love you. I hate you.

[B]

We need to talk.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or just silence.

[A]

Yes, silence. Because I don't even think thank you. Is that bad. People are like, thank you is the worst response. I'm like, I did that with Robbie. Right?

[B]

You said, thank you.

[A]

Yeah. Not like, just thank you, but I was like, oh, thank you so much. I'm not there yet.

[B]

Okay. That's so fair, though.

[A]

Yeah. What else do you say? You can't just say, I'm not there yet. You still have to, like, keep your decorum.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody's pouring out their heart to you. So I think first response is probably, fuck you.

[B]

I would agree with that. I literally said no when my fiance asked me to be his girlfriend at first, and that was awkward.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good for you, establishing your dominance, though. You're like, the next day, you're, like, kidding.

[B]

I do still like you. I just don't want to be exclusive yet.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's fair.

[B]

I had to make sure.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

This is a hot take.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Slow walkers are worse than slow drivers.

[A]

Do you agree? Some people really hate slow walkers, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't really mind either, but if I had to pick one. Slow drivers, because they're easier to get around. Slow walkers, especially when they're, like, swaying.

[B]

Oh, my God. Or they're, like, weaving in front of you, and, like, you don't have a clear path to weave in front of them.

[A]

Literally, they're not on a straight path, or they have a lot of back bags, and it's, like, taking up the whole sidewalk. Then you have to, like. I don't even say, excuse me. I just like, who's the mom in the Incredibles? I like, well, the slink.

[B]

She's like, slinky.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or what is it?

[A]

I just want to, like, go into the wall, somehow contort my body and go around them.

[B]

Go over them.

[A]

Yeah, Literally. That seems worse. I will cut anyone off and make it seem like it's their idea. So I don't really mind a slow driver.

[B]

I don't want to be on the highway the same time as you.

[A]

You do. It's seamless.

[B]

If aliens visited Earth, what's the first thing we should show them?

[A]

I'm like, my tits.

[B]

You're nude. That's what I was thinking.

[A]

Let all of the other universes know and tell them to follow me on Instagram if they have any kind of brand deals that they're willing to give from outer space. Like, I want to establish Establish my fame early in case I end up there at some point in time, I.

[B]

Would love to like, live on a little spaceship for a while.

[A]

Yeah. Would you like Xenon?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, she really sold it.

[B]

And that's the thing. Like, if I could guarantee, like I'm not gonna get sucked into a black hole, like, I would probably try it, but I'm like really scared of flying. So, like, I don't know if I could handle the rocket ship.

[A]

I don't think it's gonna work out for you.

[B]

No, I was a flight attendant too. Like that makes sense.

[A]

Isn't that crazy how sometimes we get ourselves in that situation? How it's like going to work. I was so anxious as a nurse because I'm terrified of people.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, well, like in large masses and like, if I have to like talk to a lot of people, I don't know. You're just one person and you're very welcoming.

[B]

But you like, you went on the Bachelor like you got it. Like, that's intimidating. No, I over going up again against like, yeah, 24 other women. And like, you have to be friends, but you can't be too friendly because you're competing in a.

[A]

Like right in front of a camera. I do become invincible. I can do the unexpected. I can. It's. It's really crazy. I truly come alive.

[B]

See, I think you could do stand up.

[A]

And I. And I take a lot of propanolol. So much so that one time when I was in Croatia on the Bachelor, they had to send the Croatian medics because my heart rate was so low. I was getting nauseous and they took my pulse. My heart rate was in the 30s.

[B]

Maybe that's why I'm nauseous all the time.

[A]

Propanol.

[B]

My heart rate's too low. Yeah, I'm like, I. Before I was like. Earlier today, I was like, God, I'm nauseous again today. Are you not pregnant?

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

[B]

No, there's no chance. No chance.

[A]

Are okay, cuz you haven't pulled the goal goalie.

[B]

No, there is no goalie.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm playing with fire.

[A]

Yeah, you pull and pray. It only works if you pray.

[B]

Condoms.

[A]

Shut the up.

[B]

Yeah, non latex. Because the latex ones are disgusting.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That is truly incredible.

[B]

I deserve you some sort of award.

[A]

You are a warrior. And that shows. It does show the character of your fiance. Say, because men would be like, no.

[B]

He'S a good one. I said he's a Unicorn. He really is a unicorn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Last but not least, what is a dumb rumor you've heard about yourself?

[A]

They're all true. I love them. Where there's smoke, there's fire. I love them all.

[B]

I love that. God, this has been so fun. I'm like, I don't want you to leave.

[A]

No, I loved it. It's a genius concept.

[B]

By the way, can you come co host with me again, please?

[A]

Oh, my God, anytime.

[B]

This is so good. So where can people listen to your podcast, though? Where can they find you?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You're doing it all right now.

[A]

I know it's really too much, which is why I need my nudes to be leaked so I can back the off.

[B]

Work smarter, not harder.

[A]

Yes. You can find my podcast on all platforms, including YouTube. It's long winded. I'm on TikTok as Gabby Wendy and Instagram as Gabby Whitney. Mindy, I'm begging for your attention. This is a plea.

[B]

All of Gabby's links are going to be in the description. I will make it so easy to find her, give her podcast a listen. Especially the episode with you and your girlfriend, Robbie. Amazing. I literally, it's like, gonna be my mission now to get, like, the two of you on together, because, like, yeah, Robbie is so funny. Check out her stand up.

[A]

I'm just like, no, she's incredible. Yes. She's one of a kind. Kind.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

But, yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much for coming on.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Until next time, guys. Bye. Yay.