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Justin
Okay. Ah.
Morgan
Okay, here we go. We are batch recording right now, you guys, as we are getting ready to head off to Minnesota for our wedding. Two weeks, Two weeks away. So we are really trying to, like, bulk record. So from the time I leave LA to go back to Minnesota for the wedding until the time I get back to LA after the honeymoon, I'm just like, checked out. I have not left home without my computer since I started this show. I'm constantly editing and uploading on the road. So I think with the wedding and honeymoon, that's like mini moon. Mini moon, actually. But that's like one thing I really want to make sure is like, we're just like unplugged. Yeah, unplugged.
Justin
Yes. You know that feeling you get when you have a 6am flight and you get up at 4 and you have to go to the airport at that. That hour?
Morgan
Yeah, that's me right now.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
Yeah. Justin's battling a little bit of a cold. He's been taking Zycam, just zooting it like, you know, there's no tomorrow. Yeah, you're really trying. Yeah, you're really trying here. I'm here, you're here. But I think it's going to be a good episode. We're getting into stories all about faulty matches as it is our wedding week when this comes out. Our wedding will actually be in like two days after this episode. Comes out. I wanted to talk all about, like relationships and good matches, bad matches, just matches that well.
Justin
Because the episode, the episode wouldn't be that great if it was all about perfect, great relationship relationships. That would be boring. Who wants to listen to that?
Morgan
Oh, my God, it would be terrible. So I feel like, you know, it's always good to compare. See whatever everyone else has going on and oh, gosh, yeah, okay, we do that. That's not great. We should stop doing that. Or oh, I don't do that. Like, wow, I appreciate what I have now. Or, you know, oh, I didn't notice that would be bad. But I could see how it is. So there's probably a lot to take from these.
Justin
Make you realize something right before the wedding.
Morgan
You never know. I mean, I got some crazy stories. I do have some pre wedding stories, but I think we're safe.
Justin
Okay, I guess we'll find out.
Morgan
Also, welcome back to another episode of two Hot Takes. You guys, I'm your host, Morgan.
Justin
I'm Justin J. Wow.
Morgan
J pow.
Justin
Not today.
Morgan
No, not today.
Justin
Okay, I'll get there.
Morgan
Well, let's dive in.
Justin
Let's go.
Morgan
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Justin
Then we can speak from experience.
Morgan
Yeah, trigger warning on this first one. Friends, it is not safe for work. So if you're working, you're in your little cubicle playing this out loud today. Maybe consider some headphones or if there's little ears. Little ears. Probably. Probably don't need this one either. Okay, so this first one then. This is coming from R. Relationship advice. Posted only an hour ago. It's titled is it normal that my 23 female fiance, 25 male, wants me to break my hymen before our wedding. He asked me if I could, quote, do him a favor by breaking my hymen a month before our wedding because he doesn't want blood on his penis. And then he said not to do anything afterwards so it can be, quote, tight for him. He's brought this up before, but he used to only say the reason was so that it could be more enjoyable for both of us. I didn't know he was worried about getting blood on him or whatever. I kind of feel upset that he asked me to do that, but I'm not sure if I'm right in feeling this way. I'm upset because I found comfort in knowing that I could go through the painful part of it with my partner. Also, the way he worded all of that sounds immature, but maybe I'm reading into it too much and it's not that serious.
Justin
I think it sounds pretty serious.
Morgan
I.
Justin
It's like that gross male rhetoric of, oh, keep it tight, and all this. And also, how do you expect to be in a relationship and never get blood on you ever, ever? Good luck.
Morgan
Yeah. I mean, like, Shark Week happens. It could be happening. It could be coming on. You don't know. You get bopped in the cervix a couple times and floodgates open, and next thing you know, it's Shark Week.
Justin
Yeah. And then what's gonna happen? Oh, my God, it happened. I, like, freak out and break up. But, yeah. I don't know. This is weird, going into a wedding, and it's like, I just want it to be perfect for me.
Morgan
That is the selfishness of it, too. It's like, I don't want to have to go through that with you. And kind of, as OP said, like, I was hoping to go through that with my partner, that painful part, that scary part, or whatever, like, to go with it through my person. And for him to just be like, yeah, you take care of that before.
Justin
The wedding and then don't do anything after, because what does that mean, to be tight?
Morgan
Okay. It is giving immature. It's giving a few red flags for me. It's almost reminding me of that story we had. It was on our original Unhinged episode. It was me, you, and Lauren.
Justin
Classic.
Morgan
And someone was writing in to be like, my fiance wants his dad to check my hymen before the wedding or something like that. And that story, I feel like if the word hymen comes up before your wedding, you should run. Like, anyone talking about your hymen before you get married wants to look at your hymen wants you to break your hymen. Maybe we should just 180 do, do, do, walk away.
Justin
It just doesn't feel like he is a male with a fully developed brain and has not been around in the world long enough to just understand how to be a normal person. Good person.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
You know, we always walk this fine line on this show between what's right and wrong, or in balancing that with a preference. This, for me, obviously, is just a mismatch because, yes, it's not great in the way he approached any of it. Is someone wrong for things that they particularly want that gets into a territory where it's like, it's not so easy to say this is right and this is wrong. The way you're approaching the conversation and maybe treating this person. We could put in a category, but it's just like, you clearly aren't on the same page. And for op, you are absolutely not in the wrong no matter which way you look at this. So it's just like, yeah, honestly, it goes back to the title. It's a faulty relationship. And it's good that some of this is showing before we lock in.
Morgan
Absolutely. Top comment. Your fiance has a horrible understanding of the human body. Next comment. OP has horrible standards. She's gonna marry this. Break your hymen, but keep it tight for me, man. And next comment goes. She clearly doesn't know any better. There's a comment here. No, literally nothing about this is normal. Next one down. Honestly, I wouldn't stay with him after the stay tight for him comment, because how is he going to treat you after you have a baby? Will he want you to have a C section as well so you can stay tight for him? It's giving disgusting behavior. Yeah, OP does respond. This crossed my mind when he said that to me. I'm just really caught off guard because I didn't expect him to say something like that. It's going to be hard to believe, but this is out of character for him, which is why I'm confused. Someone responds to OP he is showing you who he is, how he views sex and how he views women. You should not marry him. At this point, which I don't know. Like, I. I get. Like, a lot of people are gonna jump to, like, don't marry him and, ugh, divorce. Like, we've. We've all been there. We've all, you know, we've all done that. But if this is truly out of character, then maybe he's hearing a bunch of stuff from like toxic guys in his life and he's like getting told, like, you better make sure she's ready for the wedding night. Haha. Like, I could see that. Especially given they do both sound inexperienced. It sounds like they're both virgins. Like, probably saving it until they get married.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
So I would have a serious conversation and be like, why did you ask me this? And if he can't give you a good reason or work through it and like, kind of come to terms with like, hey, this isn't, this isn't a good thing to ask me. Like, this is pretty disgusting. If he can't come to terms with that, then you have more of an answer. But I would be very curious where this is coming from.
Justin
Yeah, well, some people disguise demands as questions and I think that they think they're involving the other person in the choice and the decision when really they're kind of steamrolling them by the way they ask the question. So it's like, oh, can you do this? When it's really coded as you should do this and that. I don't know, is that, that fall into manipulation or what category is that? Because you see that a lot in different forms, but in this one it just feels like, no, I'm a team player. I was asking you your opinion. Like, it always feels like there's a cop out potentially. Instead of directly saying, you need to do this or you should do this.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Which none of it's good.
Morgan
No. We do have quite a few other comments from op. OP says, I will admit there have been other out of character occurrences happening recently, but I don't know if this is what's going on here because it doesn't make sense to me how someone could hide who they are for three years. But you're also about to get married. You're getting closer to getting locked in.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
So it's kind of the perfect time for him to start testing you and pushing boundaries and letting the mask kind of like slip.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
OP did respond to like, someone being like, you should call this off. And OP responds, yeah, we're pretty far into the planning. I'd feel so guilty because of the money and also because I formed relationships with his parents and siblings.
Justin
Yeah. But that's still not worth the rest of your life or, you know, a few years and then going through a messy divorce. Money is one thing. The relationship with parents, I mean, everyone, everyone does that. When you're serious about somebody. And that's just comes with the territory. That's no reason to stay. If Everything's bad.
Morgan
Couple other comments here just kind of highlighting that they have been intimate. There's one comment that mentions, like, oral sex. There's another comment about him asking to do anal because their culture is heavily against premarital sex. He's had a previous partner, though, and when I met him, he said he wouldn't have cared if I had one. And he didn't make a big deal out of me being a virgin. He has asked me to have anal sex with him before marriage. And after reading your comment, I'm now realizing how weird that is, given that he's grossed out by blood being on him, but not that.
Justin
Yeah, that's always very interesting.
Morgan
They've been together for three years and it's not an arranged marriage. Like, OP is getting asked, like, so many questions. People accused OP of trolling. She responds, lol. I wish I was trolling. So tough spot to be in. Clearly starting to really think through things, but at this point, we have no update. The post is now two hours old with a refresh, so we're gonna have to keep our eyes on this. But, like, OP is clearly starting to, like. Like, the vision is cracked a little bit.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
And clearly starting to, like, reevaluate things a little bit. Yeah.
Justin
I really think it's good to. I mean, have people understand that people can drastically change as you approach something like marriage. I mean, some of the stories we've had before are just like, holy shit. You know, they get back from the. The next day after the wedding, and it's just opposite. And it's scary, but it's real. It's almost like, you know, a lot of the times, I think all the things we've learned from going through all these stories, honestly, should be a course at some point in life that gives you all these extra tools to say, oh, no, that's not right. Because I think with the experience of this show and everyone listening to it, we all, collectively, our radars are 10 times better. As far as red flags or no, this is possible, this does happen. You're not crazy, because so many times it's the person writing in, am I in the wrong? Am I the one that's crazy? Am I blowing this out of proportion? And it's like, no, this is nuts.
Morgan
This is wild.
Justin
Like, this is beyond bad for so many different things.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
And this is starting to knock on that door where, yeah, maybe the cracks are starting to show. And like you said, it's the best. It's the perfect time to start testing that before, you know, we're fully there, but it doesn't seem like he has any intention of not moving forward. He's just almost buttering it up for sure.
Morgan
And now that I know he has had other relationships, has slept with other people, it's not giving as uneducated as it was before. Like two people that haven't had sex and are just kind of like going off tropes and whatever. Sure. No, this isn't his first rodeo. Come on now. There's not as big of an excuse. And it is therefore a solid red flag. And you really gotta have a conversation and then address it. And if it doesn't change, like his perspective, if it doesn't come around, like, I would be concerned that he has some very other potentially misogynistic views or just isn't gonna respect your body. Or if you have a kid and your body changes and you give birth naturally and like you change that, he's gonna use that as an excuse down the line. Like that's where my head goes. Because we kind of see it.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
And I think our next story kind of might dabble with it.
Justin
Okay. I think the last thing really quick is that, you know, at the end, oh, well, he didn't, you know, he said he didn't care that I was a virgin and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yeah, it's like that was his mission the whole time. To me it seems like a big reason he's even with you because of all these comments leading up to marriage. I could see that, like the keep it tight for me thing.
Morgan
Uh huh.
Justin
That doesn't go along with someone that doesn't care. If you had a partner before, it seems like he very much chose you because that was one of the aspects.
Morgan
And I think it's interesting. Like Op looks at their virginity almost as a bad thing. Like he didn't care that I was a virgin. That's so great. And it's like, well, I think most people the opposite. Like for a guy, especially a guy who thinks like, oh, if a lock opens for multiple keys, that's bad. Like that's kind of the energy I'm getting. That kind of trope that like, men can have more sex than women and that's okay. I think a guy like that would want a virgin. So it's like, of course that's not going to bother him.
Justin
Right.
Morgan
But is that this guy? OP will have to find out. You're gonna have to do a little bit more digging. Get your shovel, girl. Get your shovel.
Justin
Time's Ticking.
Morgan
Time's ticking. Moving on to this next one. Okay, this next one is coming from R. Am I overreacting? It is nine hours old, titled Am I overreacting? For snapping at my husband after he body shamed me Post baby and then finding out he's secretly on Tinder. Mm.
Justin
Classic.
Morgan
I, 29, female, had our first baby six months ago. It was a brutal pregnancy. Gestational diabetes, swelling so bad I couldn't walk without crying. And then an emergency C section that left me cut open and bedridden for weeks. My body still isn't back. I carry extra weight, my scar still aches, and some days I can barely recognize myself in the mirror. But I also look at my baby and think every stretch mark was worth it. My husband, 32, male, has been cold towards me ever since the baby. I thought it was stress. New parent. Life is hard. But last week, while we were in bed, I leaned in to cuddle him like I used to, and he pulled away. Then he said words I can't erase from my head. Quote, we can fool around when you lose some weight. My God, I felt like I'd been punched in the chest. This is the same man who watched me scream in pain bringing his child into the world. I told him I've been healing, breastfeeding up all night with the baby. How dare he reduce me to my waistline? I told him I didn't even want to fool around. I just wanted to cuddle. He shrugged and said, that's another problem, your mouth. Then he twisted it into me being the problem, that I'm too emotional and that he was just being honest. I couldn't stop crying. He's not exactly Mr. Perfect himself. And I told him that he's got a beer gut, snores like a chainsaw, hasn't set foot in a gym in years. But I never once, until this argument, made him feel small over it. Because that's not what love is. And here's where it gets worse. A couple of nights later, he left his phone on the counter while he showered. A notification popped up. Tinder. My stomach dropped. I clicked. He has an active profile. Current pictures, bio updated this month. Messages from women he doesn't know. I saw it. I've been walking around the house in a daze, holding our baby, wondering what's wrong with me, that the man I built a family with would rather swipe through strangers than look at me. It's not just about his words anymore. My body gave him a child. My body sacrificed for our family. And now it feels like my body is the very thing he despises. I keep thinking, am I overreacting? Should I just confront him? Should I pack up and leave? Or am I supposed to swallow this because, quote, men will be men? I feel shattered, used, betrayed. I don't even know how to look at him anymore. What makes it even worse is that my mom passed away when I was 13, so the only person I could talk to about this was my dad. When I explained everything to him, he told me I should try working out more and eating less.
Justin
Oh, my God.
Morgan
He basically told me to suck it up and that men are visual creatures. I'm starting to feel crazy. Please be honest. Am I just sensitive? Please don't hype me up. I don't want to lose my husband and my marriage.
Justin
Damn. Why was I hoping for dad to.
Morgan
Actually be, like, a good support, a sound. A good sounding board? A sound sounding board? Yeah. No, we got none of that. We got more shame and criticism and gaslighting. I mean, is that. Does that count? Ugh.
Justin
I honestly feel like we're too far gone to even work through this. He's too far gone.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Because you don't say those things to someone that you even care for. A future with The Tinder thing is one thing, but the shit that would piss me the fuck off is just because of my experience with medical stuff, if I went through something like that and you're not literally on the ground praising me. Oh, my God. But now I'm the problem because I went through, yes, it's a beautiful thing, but I went through such horrible pregnancy, birth, everything. It was a horrible, traumatic experience. And now I'm dealing with the residual effects of that. I'm probably feeling self conscious. I'm not loving, you know, the way I look and everything, but it is what it is because I got my child. And that's the beautiful part about it. And then for your quote unquote partner to be saying this stuff and treating you this way, oh, that would, like, bring out an anger I don't think I've ever had in my past. No, I know that would awaken some part of me that I didn't think existed. And then the mouth, like, the mouth thing, that's another thing. And your mouth, like, right then, all of it is terribly abusive. And the way it's worded, nothing's. There's. You have no sense of a partner. And obviously, with Tinder, I don't get how people do this Tinder thing when they're in a relationship like this. Obviously, Ethically. But how do they actually do it with no one recognizing them? Because the place you're on Tinder, is in your community, typically.
Morgan
I mean, you can set your location elsewhere, but like.
Justin
But come on. Like, people from work aren't gonna recognize people in her circle. How do you know she doesn't have, like, she definitely has friends that are single. Everyone does at some point. How are they not randomly? You know what I mean?
Morgan
I think people find out eventually, sometimes. But also big cities. Like, I feel like if you have someone blocked on, like. Cause I know you can link some dating apps through your social media, and if. I'm very curious about this. If you block someone on social media, are they also blocked from Tinder?
Justin
But how do you catch everyone? You know, how do you make sure. So it's just like. That's a whole nother thing. It's just. I don't get how people actually pull that off with everything we have in front of us. This just doesn't make sense. And it's so unfortunate.
Morgan
It really is. I mean, we kind of talked about it with the first one, though. It's like the dynamic between them shifted. They had a kid. She's extremely locked in, and then he starts acting terrible like this. And I think it's interesting how, like, a lot of times you could, like, chalk it up to, like, oh, well, my body changed. She's not attracted to me. But I don't know that. I feel like for some people, that's true and attraction changed, but I feel like others just use it as, like, eh, she's locked in now I can do more of what I want now. I know I can get away with it. She's at home taking care of the baby. Like, I've got a little extra time.
Justin
But I also feel like in this day and age, that's becoming less common. I feel like women are stepping up and saying, I'm not gonna deal with your abuse. I'm not gonna be trapped in this. Yeah, I'm gonna take my kid and go. Because I can and I will, you know, And I think that's. That's been a really awesome shift over the last. I don't know, even. Not even century. Right. I mean, when. Because I remember my great grandma got divorced at a time where that was hugely taboo.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
But she still did it and chose a happier life for herself. Even though maybe at the time it was extremely hard and maybe some people looked down upon her for that, but she still did it. So I. I look up to women that. That do that. And I, you know, I feel that it's just. It just sucks that it has to be that way and that so many people do feel trapped. And, you know, they. They stayed home to take care of the baby. They had the baby. You know, they go through all of this and then husband thinks, oh, now I can do whatever I want because you're, you're stuck. Just shitty. I hate that.
Morgan
I feel terrible for her. I don't know if this is redeemable. Like, I, I would be curious if there's any counselors out there that could chime in and say, like, I've had clients work through stuff like this, but, like, not only do you have the body shaming, when you try to communicate it, you get told. That's another problem. Your mouth being like, hey, you can't talk back to me. You bringing up your feelings. You're talking back to me. I'm above you. Don't talk back to me. Your mouth is a problem.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
And then you have the cheating. He is actively trying to cheat while withholding any form of intimacy from you. You can't even cuddle him without him saying comments like, well, maybe we'll fool around when you lose weight. I can't have a hug, a sideline hug, in bed, cuddling his hugs. Like, it's literally just a hug.
Justin
It's like a very long hug.
Morgan
Yeah, it's just like a cozy little hug in bed, laying down.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
But it's just like, if you are going to withhold any sort of intimacy, love, physical affection, connection from me until I lose weight. That's extremely abusive. Yeah, extremely abusive. And he can say, you know, he's not attracted, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you can't even cuddle again, it's a hug. It's a hug. You can't hug me after everything I did, after what I sacrificed. My body, my life. It's risky. She had a very difficult pregnancy, an emergency C section. This is a lot to go through and to not even then have a partner who's caring.
Justin
Yeah, I mean, I think attraction is one thing, but I really think it, when it comes down to it, you don't commit to a body. You commit to a person. You commit to who someone is. You know, maybe other people commit to people just simply because of their body, but I don't think that that's ever going to be a good foundation for a relationship.
Morgan
Well, hey, even if you, okay, you become unattractive, which a lot of people say, that's fair, you know, you can't control attraction. It changes. Okay. If you're in that boat. Cool. Then talk to your partner and end the relationship before making a Tinder and starting to cheat.
Justin
Of course. Yeah.
Morgan
So for me, this one is just a faulty match. You've got an amazing baby out of the deal. And now get your shit together and get out.
Justin
I think that's a good way to look at it because I think a lot of people instantly, you know, the gut reaction is, oh, my God, we just had this child together and it's almost like a bad thing. But if you're already there, that's a great way to look at it.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Look what I got out of this.
Morgan
You're amazing little baby.
Justin
And then you can move forward and create the life that you deserve.
Morgan
Mm. I think that is like the. The rainbow in all of this. Like, you have an amazing little one and hopefully he'll be a good dad and co parent well with you. But, like, this is not worth sticking around for. Top comment, leave. He's on Tinder. Cheating. While you're crying your eyes out. Flush. Take screenshots, get evidence. Take half of whatever he owns. Accidentally misplace his favorite stuff, Gaslight him subtly. Then hit the gym when you feel ready to date again. And take back your power, girl, someone goes. Good sentiment. Wrong order of operations. Do not let your husband know about this until your attorney says it's time to let him know. First. Get a probably free initial consult from the best divorce attorneys in your area, preferably several different law firms. Pick one and follow their advice. Some items the attorney will probably recommend. Open your own financial accounts at a different bank or credit union. Unless you already have this. Set up savings, checkings, credit cards in your name alone. Safe deposit box. As far as redirecting income or moving money, ask your attorney. Put your documents in your new safe deposit box. Birth certificate, Social Security card, copy of income taxes, passport, professional certifications, et cetera. Make a backup of information from your phone, laptop, et cetera, and put a copy on a drive. Deposit all of that in the box as well. Quietly put together a go bag so that you can quickly leave with the baby if he becomes violent. Next person down, I want to add a little tip. Call all the attorneys in your area, give them your name, and do a quick free phone call consultation. That way, when he tries to go get a local attorney, it will be a conflict of interest for them and they will not represent him.
Justin
Is that how that works?
Morgan
I. I'm not sure if a quick consult counts, but.
Justin
Because when I've talked to attorneys. They do a quick conflict check, but I don't know if necessarily just even.
Morgan
Contacting a quick phone call like that. I mean, if you're sharing intimate details, yeah, I guess if you scheduled a meeting, had a call, shared all these details, they would have heard your side. They'd be biased. So it probably, probably is accurate. I'm not a lawyer. Lawyers chime in. I'd be curious.
Justin
I guess it'd also be pretty hard to contact every single lawyer in your area, but. Wow. Yeah, Never heard of that one.
Morgan
Next comment here. If he's on Tinder, he's already checked out of the marriage. Set that man aside, get some therapy and get your mind right. Your body is not completely healed. Your body and mental health should be your priority right now. Only when you're emotionally stable and physically stable, then you can begin the process of unloading the unhealthy beer gut weight you're carrying around. Get ready for the battle. It's coming.
Justin
Ooh, it feels like Game of Thrones a little bit. Winter's coming.
Morgan
Someone goes this. I have been there. Except I didn't know about the cheating until later. I naively tried to hang on to a crumbling marriage for the sake of my baby and I should have just kicked him out. OP needs to take charge now. Also financially. If there are joint accounts, drain as much as you can and keep it separate. Make sure you have all of your important documents out of the house. Best case scenario. This is overkill. But if he is capable of saying he won't touch you until you get in shape and telling you to watch what you say, he sounds like someone who might think he owns you and will do as he pleases. Mm. Well, there's a lot of other people sharing their experiences in the comments. I think it's safe to say OP is getting a lot of advice. No comments, no other posts, no update yet. This is at this time 10 hours old now, so we're gonna have to keep our eyes open for any updates. But moving along, this episode of two Hot Takes is presented by State Farm. It's great to have friends who support you, whatever you're into. And like those friends, State Farm is there to support you in choosing the coverage you need. With so many coverage options, it's nice knowing you have help finding what fits you. Go online@statefarm.com or use the award winning app to get help from one of their local agents. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
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Morgan
Okay, we're going to lighten the mood a little bit for a second. Okay, this next one is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit 13 hours old titled I'm watching my Ex Move on through the security cameras.
Justin
Still has access, huh?
Morgan
My ex and I were together for almost two years and lived together for a little over two weeks before he ended things, saying he didn't think the issues between me and his family would ever get better. For context, his family is extremely overbearing. They spend nearly every waking minute together and he wasn't willing to set boundaries when it came to them. After the breakup, I moved out and we went no contact, but I still had access to our security cameras the very day I left another girl, his little sister's 19 best friend was already there. I had noticed her hanging around a lot right before we split. Since then I've watched her coming over, staying the night and the two of them having flirty conversations outside at 3am it honestly felt like a bad reality TV and I couldn't stop watching. But I finally saw enough last night. They shared a lover's embrace not even a week after we had ended a two year relationship and he's already moved on. So let's just call it what it is. His family wasn't the reason for the breakup. He just needed an excuse to move on without the guilt.
Justin
Yeah, that's it.
Morgan
That's it.
Justin
Yeah. I mean he didn't move on that quickly. It's been probably going for a while. Just been good at hiding it.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Which is so scary. I think there's people out there who can be very trusting and vulnerable and you know this is the shitty side of doing that.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Is you can get hurt because people can be very sketchy and slimy and basically move on while putting on a good face for you and already have their, their next and you know, their next situation set up. Meanwhile, the whole time you're still go, you're still trying your best every day. You're still going in with good faith and doing what's best for your relationship. And meanwhile the whole time it's just like, it's just so terrible. It's like you, you make someone believe something and how can you see that person every day and do that and then meanwhile you're just over here. I don't know. I just. I'll never understand the people that are such cowards that can't just break up when things are wrong versus stay in them, cling on to them, yet do all this shit on the side. Like don't with people like that.
Morgan
It does sound like. Because like OP did watch all of this unfold on the camera. Which girl? That's a little creepy. It's giving a little bit stalkerish.
Justin
Be hard to not though. I guess you can also see that.
Morgan
Oh, I get why you could fall into it. But it doesn't make it not creepy.
Justin
Right.
Morgan
But it does seem like they had issues. The boundaries with the family weren't issues. It was probably a constant fight. So they move in together. Family stopping over all the time and it was the final straw. They tried to make it work, but they only lived together for two weeks. Which is kind of like. It seems like the move in Was maybe a band aid to see if we could work through it. And then two weeks and you're. You're out. You're breaking up.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
It does seem plausible. And, like, she started hanging around a little bit more, but it doesn't seem like she saw them making out on the camera right away. Like, it does seem like it was a slow intro into a new relationship.
Justin
Sure. But he was definitely.
Morgan
He.
Justin
He definitely wasn't broken up and heartbroken when they broke up. He had been mentally pulling out for.
Morgan
A while, which a lot of people do. A lot of people especially, I think women typically, you see it more so with women emotionally check out.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
Before they break up. Like, it takes a lot for a woman.
Justin
I get that.
Morgan
Or like, some people to finally hit the breaking point where they're like, okay, there's. There's no fix in this. I tried. Okay. I'll find. I'll. Fine, fine. I'll break up now.
Justin
Yeah. I mean. Cause just when we've talked about it through, I think maybe on the show and whatever in the past, we both are like, no, we'd be so fucked up in a breakup that we can't even fathom that. We can't even fathom this happening. Where it's just like, we would just both be in caves for. I know, a long time. Just like, you know.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
I don't know. I guess someone could start checking out and then build up the courage to eventually break up.
Morgan
But, yeah, I think that's what happens quite a bit.
Justin
Is that right or wrong?
Morgan
Well, what do you think about this? Like, I feel like for some people, you almost need another person to show you the difference between, like, oh, my God, the relationship I'm in is so bad. And like, oh, this person is treating me really nicely.
Justin
Sure.
Morgan
Does that mean you need to cheat? No, but I think, like, for a lot of people, they almost need a little crush, whether it's a co worker, a friend, or whoever to, like, get them over the other relationship.
Justin
Sure.
Morgan
I'm not saying you should cheat. I'm not saying you should make out. I'm not saying you need someone else to move on. But I think there are certain things that make it easier to break up.
Justin
One of that's honestly truly what happened here. And it wasn't so malicious. Like I was thinking. I mean, we don't truly know. Right. But if that is what happened here, then I guess they. He kind of went about it in the right way. It's hard. It's hard because you need the context.
Morgan
I know, and I wish we had more. Like, I don't think their relationship was a match. Like, we hear the line, like, he had unhealthy boundaries with family. He was super close. They spend every waking minute together. Yeah, but like, what does that actually mean? Maybe they are just a close family. But, like, the boundaries are okay.
Justin
Is it exaggerated? Right?
Morgan
Like, exactly. Is mom still picking out his clothes? Or does mom just enjoy a family dinner every once in a while?
Justin
And does she not just not like the family and they are just simply a mismatch.
Morgan
That's what I'm getting here. That's what I'm getting. And then I think OP just really got sucked into a bit of a creepy thing watching the cameras.
Justin
Well, and that would rile you up to having to see that. Even though you low key get addicted to it.
Morgan
Yeah, I think that was an addiction.
Justin
It's like watching Big Brother.
Morgan
Creepy addiction. It is kind of like that.
Justin
Especially the Big Brother After Dark where you can log in and see those cameras at any time. That's what that gives, man. Take people off your security cameras. People. When you break up, remove their access or start a new account.
Morgan
Top comment on this one. Let it go, Elsa. You got your closure now delete the feed. Next comment. Girl, you need to disconnect from those cameras like, yesterday. I get the morbid curiosity, but this is just going to mess with your head even more. Also, yeah, he was definitely already checked out before the family issues conversation. That timing with the sister's friend is way too sus.
Justin
I guess that could turn legal too, couldn't it?
Morgan
I wonder.
Justin
Because if you are still logged into a system that you rightfully had access to at the time, does that expire then, when it's not your residence and you are technically just spying?
Morgan
We need so many lawyers this episode. We need lawyers, stat. We need like a little phone, a lawyer button.
Justin
Because then could you get a restraining order for camera access? Because it's not like you're physically showing up unwanted.
Morgan
Well, it's not like you hacked into the camera you were given access. But according to quick Google Search, yes, accessing someone else's camera can get you into serious trouble, including criminal charges for invasion of privacy, fines, and even jail time because it violates their right to privacy. Okay, but I guess that would start.
Justin
To apply because it's not technically her residence anymore.
Morgan
Yeah, but she was given consent. But you would think it's automatically revoked upon a breakup.
Justin
It's messy, man.
Morgan
It's messy. I don't know. Legal legally. I Don't know. I don't know what the legality of that is.
Justin
Chime in.
Morgan
Lawyers pop off lawyers. OP does respond to that comment about it being way too sus.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
And they go, yeah, I know. It's like, I can't stop watching. And the family stuff was 100% bullshit. The family is over with the new girl celebrating like, they planned this, which I don't know why. I don't know why. With this one, I'm really just kind of like, I do want to give him a little bit more benefit of the doubt. And maybe it's because of the camera watching, but, like, this is also his little sister's friend. Like, she's probably been around for forever.
Justin
So the family's not like, who are you?
Morgan
No. And OP Failed to mention their ages, but happened to put this girl's age of 19. But we don't know if boyfriend is 21.
Justin
Right.
Morgan
We don't know if boyfriend is 30 and this new girl is 19.
Justin
Like, good context.
Morgan
It does feel purposefully withholding information.
Justin
Redacted.
Morgan
Yeah. Given the fact you put in her age as it had meaning to us. But what is his age? What's your age?
Justin
Because instead of us having all of the facts, you're trying to give us just certain ones to make us think a certain way. But who knows until we have all the facts? It could be any one of those scenarios we've talked about. Because I would imagine my family or your family, if we split up and then two weeks later or three weeks or a month later, one of us had a new partner. We were walking in the door. I feel like they'd be like, what the fuck is this?
Morgan
Yeah. No, they'd be a little surprised.
Justin
Like, it's just.
Morgan
But again, I think a lot of people, too. Like, if you don't like the ex, you're kind of like, thank God he's moving on. Like, sure. My little brother, his ex was very, very toxic. Like, it actually insane. Like, a little goofy. Well, not the last one. The one before. The last one I liked. He's had some good ones, if you're listening. Like, the last one I really liked, but he's like, got a couple exes now, but he, like, bought a house with this girl. Like, they got a dog together. And literally a week later, she was like, I'm breaking up with you. I'm done. And then had to sell the house. All of a sudden, she didn't want the dog. They got together. She's like, nope, get rid of the dog. You Keep the dog. I don't care about the dog. And it's like, what the hell? The whiplash of this.
Justin
Yeah, that would make sense.
Morgan
Like, that is goofy. So like, for Taylor, when Taylor started dating then his next girlfriend, I was so excited. I'm like, this is great, Taylor. Like, you're moving on. Maybe this will be happier and healthier. So I think it depends on the relationship. And again, we're only getting one side of this. But maybe I'm reading this totally wrong. Maybe you guys are gonna be like, hey, no, like she had access and he was sus and probably cheating and blah blah blah.
Justin
So none of us can really know though.
Morgan
You tell me what, you think we.
Justin
Don'T have enough info?
Morgan
You tell me, but we're moving on to the next one. OP has since deleted their account though. By the way, I think after getting told they were creepy and a stalker quite a few times in the comments, they decided to peace out.
Justin
Maybe a lawyer chimed in, it's like you're in some trouble. Maybe delete, delete, delete.
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Morgan
Moving on to this next one, it is coming from R. Am I overreacting? 2 days old titled Am I Overreacting for being upset, my boyfriend upgraded his seat to first class and left me in economy. On our flights, my boyfriend, 32, male, and I booked flights for vacation together. We bought economy tickets at the gate. He got an offer to upgrade to first class for a discount, and he took it. He looked at me and said, sorry, babe, I'll see you when we land. I ended up sitting in the back squeezed between two strangers while he enjoyed champagne and leg room up front. When I told him afterwards that I felt hurt and he said I was overreacting and that he, quote, deserved to treat himself because he paid for his own ticket, it honestly felt so inconsiderate, like he just ditched me. But now I'm questioning if I'm blowing this out of proportion. Am I overreacting?
Justin
No. This is fucked up. I. So if I. And this is. This is basically almost happened before we had status and kind of were on a similar playing field. If I were to get offered an upgrade, even if it happened automatically like it does now, I would then 100% have you take my seat. I would put you at the front. I'd be like, go, enjoy.
Morgan
I would make chivalry. Would you call that chivalry?
Justin
I would call it being a good partner and wanting the best for your partner. And, yes, the ideal is to stay together, especially you're going on a trip for a vacation. You know when it's like when we were flying all over for the podcast and doing the tour, if one of us got an upgrade, I feel like I'd be like, go, take it, enjoy it for the rest of us. Because we were just so, you know, travel.
Morgan
Yeah, we were grinding.
Justin
And it's like, you go up there and enjoy. So one of us can. Versus, like a trip. It's like, we're doing this together. We're enjoying this whole vacation together. We should stay together. Unless there's two upgrades. He still had to pay for it, by the way.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
It's not like he just got it. Oh, I'm not gonna not take an upgrade for free. You still paid for it. You paid to go be away from your partner, essentially. And so that's how I view it. So I think at the very least, you should pay and then go back to her and be like, hey, guess what? You're in first class at a very minimum. But I wouldn't even do that with you necessarily, if I had to pay for one to split us up, because I know you would probably rather just stay by me no matter where we're sitting.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
So I think if it's automatic, I would 100%. My first thought is, Morgan's going up to the front.
Morgan
Yeah. I think it's interesting because in our relationship, like, that would be, like, the dynamic kind of assumed. But I, I, I'm like, okay, well, that's chivalrous. Right? Like, and I, I had to look up chivalry, and it's emphasizing courage, honor, justice, and courtesy and a duty to protect the weak. It's often a term used to describe an ideal, modern, gentlemanly behavior, particularly concerning courteous treatment of women. So I'm like, okay. In our relationship, it's like, okay, you get an upgrade, and it's kind of like, it's courteous, it's gentlemanly, it's chivalrous to let me take it. But in a relationship where it was.
Justin
I would make you take it.
Morgan
Two women or two guys, like, who would get it. Like, is it more? Is it as chivalrous? Does. Does the person that automatically gets offered the upgrade need to give it up? And so it's like this weird, like, code of conduct. Like, how does it work with upgrades? And that's where I'm like, it's hard because it is such a luxury. If it's free, I wouldn't want to waste it. I think one of the people should take it. Or, like, hey, you switch back and forth, maybe. Which some flight attendants wouldn't like. I know, but it's not something I would mind. Like, you're only gonna get one meal for that seat. It's not like you can have two. So, like, use the experience. How you would. I don't know. I wouldn't bother me, but I feel like if it's not free, I feel like I would rather stay with my partner and be on the trip together than be alone by myself up front.
Justin
Well, and then have your partner be alone in a middle seat in the.
Morgan
Back, which, yeah, like, they then gave away his seat, which I don't know why. When he upgraded, they didn't then move her to either the window or aisle that he had. Like, she really got doubly screwed over.
Justin
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think chivalry, maybe by definition is classically man woman, but I think that it really just comes down to the person. No matter what relationship, what type of relationship you're in, I think it just comes down to the person. If no matter what relationship I were in, in a hypothetical world, I feel like I'd still be the person who's like, oh, no, you take it. My ultimate thing is seeing my partner happy and having those little things, such as an upgrade. Watch someone enjoy that. I love seeing people enjoy stuff, especially if I can give it. Yeah, like an amazing gift. I love gift giving because just for that moment, like, you get so excited for them to open it and see it, and, you know, that's just the best feeling. So I think it just comes down to the person. You know, Obviously, he's one of these people who's like, oh, yeah, I'm taking it for myself. I deserve this. I paid for my ticket. It's like, okay, but that's not what this is about. And so now we've started off our trip on this great foundation. Thanks. Because what else does this extend to? You know, I mean, that is a good question. There's so many different things in life where someone has a chance to essentially be unequal to their partner. Where it's like, upgrades are an obvious one, but I'm sure it applies in many other different social situations or whatever. Oh, you can move up to this seat at the football game, or you can do this. Are you just gonna, like, where does this.
Morgan
How considerate or inconsiderate are you? Which is kind of what the top comment gets into. So the top comment says this. I fly a lot for work and get frequent upgrades. Flying is so second nature to me. First class is infinitely better, but the flights go by really quickly. When traveling with my father, I was offered an upgrade and I gave it to him. He said he didn't want it and would rather sit with me. I convinced him to try it and said I would visit him. He still talks about that fancy flight and all the free snacks. It was so easy for me to treat someone in a way that they will always remember. I get your boyfriend wanting that cool experience. I get him thinking it's no big deal. I understand where he's coming from. But also, your feelings are 100% valid. If this is a good illustration for how he treats you regularly, take note. If you don't like this feeling, break up. Everyone saying he should have offered it to you or at least consulted you is right. That's basic travel partner etiquette.
Justin
Yeah, well. And one thing he doesn't understand is how great it felt to be up there and have that experience. It's 10 times better to give that to someone and watch them enjoy that experience. It's just maybe everyone doesn't have that. I don't know. But that's for me. It just feels so much better to Give that to someone.
Morgan
I agree. It is really fun watching someone, like, get to sit in first class. When I was a flight attendant for sun country, this was back when sun country had first class. They had meals. They gave you the hot little towels.
Justin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morgan
Sun country used to be very different when I worked there and when we were traveling, if we traveled, it was usually like, if you wanted to pay to confirm your seat, it was like a $75 ticket to go anywhere. And then if by the time you were like, boarding, basically, if there were still first class seats available, you could then get a first class seat for $25.
Justin
That's cool.
Morgan
So me and, like, a friend, we went to Seattle and like, we did this and like, being able to do that for someone, like, was so, so fun. And I remember, I'll never forget the first time we sat in the pods.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
And I got it for us by some, like, crazy point hack on United, and I, like, ended up, like, buying a bunch of points for equivalent of like $500. And then I put both of us on the upgrade list with those points and we both got upgraded to the pods.
Justin
Yes.
Morgan
And that was like the first time we'd ever experienced anything.
Justin
Like, the best travel hack ever.
Morgan
And I was just like, wow.
Justin
Oh, we're in heaven.
Morgan
This is so fancy. Like, we.
Justin
We couldn't even sleep. We were so excited.
Morgan
No, like, we were coming from a place of like, this is a luxury we have never, ever had. And like, to experience that for the first time, like, I'll never forget that feeling. Like, that was so magical and special and it's just like, well, this is how the other side.
Justin
Oh, my God. It was insane.
Morgan
Like, we were coming from, like, insane credit card debt and just like, I don't. It was insane. It was so special. Which thanks United for the point hack also, but we're Delta people. We're Delta people now. But two hot takes is on United, so I might. I might be willing to switch if, you know, if I status match. If they sas match me. Just, just. Oh, no, I'm going to. I. I like United too. They've got really nice planes and their lounges are really nice if you're a lounge person. But. Okay, moving on to this next one.
Justin
Yes.
Morgan
Do you think. Do you think they're a match or do you think this is just a mishap?
Justin
And maybe I think, you know, this is one where it may not cross the threshold too far that I think. Let's see where. How the future goes. If you notice this becoming a pattern, then yes. But it could just be a misjudgment. We all make mistakes. One off. Yeah, so give it that shot. But if anything feels like this as you progress through the relationship and you notice that again. Yeah, then I'd really start to think about it.
Morgan
Okay, I'm with you on that. I think this could be work through. This could be just one of those.
Justin
We all make mistakes, silly. We all do stupid shit.
Morgan
People connect with me. It went over my head. I'm a dumbass moment.
Justin
Exactly.
Morgan
We all have them.
Justin
If that's the sentiment.
Morgan
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Justin
Yeah, it's super. I don't get it.
Morgan
Why? What do you mean? It doesn't matter who the memory was about. It's about the feeling.
Justin
Of course it does.
Morgan
That feeling wasn't about me. I wonder if he's just being defensive. Like, I wonder if he's genuinely forgetting how he met OP I was thinking that, like, maybe he genuinely forgot how they met, which is kind of concerning.
Justin
It's confusing the two timelines, but. I don't know. Know your person, I guess. Pay attention.
Morgan
The yellow dress. I've never worn a yellow dress.
Justin
I've told you many times. The first time we met, I still can picture every aspect of that in my head. There's no way in the world that if I ever had another partner, I would ever confuse that with someone else. It's so ingrained. How do you confuse that?
Morgan
I'm very confused.
Justin
I mean, were you about to get engaged to the yellow dress girl, and then you just met this girl and we're getting engaged within, like, a few months? Are we. Are they overlapped? Why is it that confusing?
Morgan
I don't know.
Justin
Oh, man.
Morgan
I'd be curious. I'd have to start asking some questions. We don't have any comments from OP in response to this story. OP is pretty active on the 2 Hot Takes subreddit.
Justin
Nice.
Morgan
Yeah. But as far as the top comments are concerned. The top comment. The feeling of loving another woman. Seriously? Oh, my God. What kind of response was that? Who cares if I'm talking about the moment I fell in love with my ex during our wedding vows? You're reading too much into it. That's not the convenient excuse he thinks it is.
Justin
I mean, I wish I was still with her, but you're a good backup, so it's all the same feeling.
Morgan
I know. And next comment down is like, dude was embarrassed he didn't know his fiance never wore yellow. But, like, again, like, how did you guys meet?
Justin
True.
Morgan
We met on Hinge. I'm not going to forget that. I'm not going to be like, oh, my God, it was love at first sight when you walked into that bar. No.
Justin
Oh, my God. If you said that at the. At the wedding, and I'd honestly probably stop you, I'd be like, wait, what?
Morgan
We. What do you.
Justin
Because you don't.
Morgan
Did you bump your head?
Justin
Seriously, because you would not make that mistake.
Morgan
No.
Justin
And so I'd be like, is this a joke?
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Is this a skit?
Morgan
Like, what's happening?
Justin
Where are the cameras?
Morgan
Am I Getting punked.
Justin
Who's filming?
Morgan
Yeah, no, I'd be very curious. It just. I think it shows if he doesn't come, like, clean and kind of, like, adjust, it kind of shows he's a bit disconnected in your relationship. I feel. Like, vows, like, some people. Some people don't think too much of them. Some people just want to do the traditional vows. And, like, they think, like, hey, we know we love each other. We don't need to, like, put stuff out there. But I do think it's pretty to, like, have certain things that you value about your relationship or you love about your partner or you vow to maintain for your partner because of your love. Like, I do think it's really beautiful to showcase those, especially at a wedding. Like, when I go to a wedding, I just want to witness love. I want to know their love. I want to know what they love about each other, what makes them as a couple tick. So for me, when I only get just, like, the traditional vows to have and to hold in sickness and in health, like, that is, like, it's not. It's their wedding, so it's not really about me, but, like, I'm just, like, a little bit like, fuck, where were the vows? Like, I really appreciate that some people take them very seriously, some people don't, is what I'm trying to get to here. So, I mean, a lot of people are upset right now about AI and their partner using AI to write their vows. So that's like, a hot topic, too. I think we're gonna get into that one after the wedding because I do have an AI vows story. Okay, so we'll touch more on that then. But I do think vows are, like, a reflection of how deeply you know the person and love them a lot of times.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
Which is why it's then concerning when you get vows from people that are like, I love it when she sucks my dick. Did you see that one go viral on TikTok?
Justin
They read that out loud.
Morgan
Yeah. This guy basically was like, I'm going to keep filling you like a cream puff till the day I die. They were the most disgusting, volatile vows I've ever witnessed. Yeah, it was horrendous. Horrendous. And so obviously, some people don't take them as seriously, but I'm curious. I'm curious about this one. Like, if you sit down and have.
Justin
A conversation, that's not even. Just not taking it seriously. That's just. Yeah, what is that?
Morgan
I don't know. A crazy person, a misogynist.
Justin
And, like, that was in front of everyone.
Morgan
Family, their daughter, or at least her daughter. It was a crazy video that went viral. I'll see if I can find it and link it in the description for you guys. And then, like, you can watch it and comment on the YouTube. You can be like, morgan, this was bad. Yeah, it was real. It was absolutely real. And like, she, because it went so viral, then of course, she's making her own videos defending him. Really bad.
Justin
Maybe they're a match made in heaven.
Morgan
Maybe they're not a faulty match. I don't know.
Justin
True. But they just have faulty, you know, social awareness.
Morgan
They got something.
Justin
Wow.
Morgan
They got something. But I would love an update on this one. Op. Like, did you have a conversation with him and he was just embarrassed that he was getting timelines and things mixed.
Justin
Up, but you almost made it worse. Your defensiveness. I don't know if you're trying to just. Whatever you're trying to justify, you made it worse. You doubled down practically.
Morgan
I feel like defensiveness makes just about every problem worse. Yeah, but it's easy to jump to. Like, I myself, I can be guilty of getting defensive and trying to just, like, defend myself. Like, oh, my God, that's not what I intended. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's an easy thing to do.
Justin
But there you can just have a good rebuttal, like. Like a lawyer. They're not necessarily defensive. They don't have defensiveness. They just have a great argument going back the other way. They don't dig themselves a further hole. They pull themselves back out. So it's like, if you can do that constructively, then great. But don't double down. You just made it harder to get out of that hole.
Morgan
I know, but keep us updated, Op. Moving on to this next one.
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Your teen adjective used to describe an individual whose spirit is unyielding, unconstrained, one who navigates life on their own terms, effortlessly. They do not always show up on time, but when they arrive, you notice an individual confident in their contradictions. They know the rules, but Behave as if they do not exist. New Teen the new fragrance by Miu Miu, defined by you, which is coming from R. Am I the Asshole? Six days old. It's titled Am I the Asshole for calling my boyfriend an idiot because he won't get a colonoscopy even though his mom had colon cancer. So my boyfriend, 33, male, has a family history of colon cancer. His mom was diagnosed in her early 40s and it was really bad. She survived, but it was a long, awful ordeal. He was old enough to remember it. Because of that, his doctor told him he should start colonoscopies earlier than most people. He's technically overdue for his first one. And lately he's had some weird stomach problems. I've been telling him for a year to get it checked out. He keeps saying things like, it's embarrassing. I'm too young. What if they find something bad like. Yes, that's the point of the test. The other night we got into it because he mentioned again that his stomach has been bothering him. I told him point blank quote, you're being an idiot. Your mom went through hell with this and you're ignoring your chance to be healthy. I also said that if he won't take care of himself, I don't know if I can plan a long term future with him because I don't want to lose a partner to something that could have been caught early. He got really upset and accused me of being controlling and dramatic. Now he's barely speaking to me. I feel like I was too harsh, but honestly, I'm scared. The news has story after story of people dying from this because they ignored it for too long. People his age too. I'd rather him be mad at me than bury him in 10 years. Am I the asshole for calling him an idiot and making this an ultimatum?
Justin
I think it's justified. It makes sense to me. We've been very close to this. You know, we've talked about this on the show a lot as well. And that's kind of our plan. Not long after the wedding. I know this was going to be our colonoscopy year, but obviously it's just been.
Morgan
I think we're gonna do it in November. Crazy November. Like after honeymoon, we can like really get set up because we both have stomach issues.
Justin
Why not? Why not have the peace of mind? I don't get. It's like you're gonna be embarrassed.
Morgan
I think a lot of guys are embarrassed about getting a camera shoved up their ass. I think a lot of guys are weird about Their. A lot of guys are weird about their. And their prostates and anything to do with their butt.
Justin
But imagine if he waited 10 years and then did it because his problems got so bad, and then there's no turning back, and he's like, I wish I would have. I should have. I mean, obviously, you can't control someone. You can't force them to do something.
Morgan
Absolutely. But your mom is a great example, because I'm like, your mom needs to get a colonoscopy, and she just won't do it right now. And I'm like, what the hell, Chris? But I think my mom, too. Get your colonoscopies, everyone.
Justin
I just. I think if you're in a relationship with someone, then, you know, teach their own. They can do whatever they want, but you can also react and do what you want based off of that.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
Because I would feel the same way. It's like, I care so much about you. I want to see you live a happy, healthy life, and I want to spend all of that time together, and I want to have the most time we can together.
Morgan
Yeah.
Justin
And to watch you just kind of throw that away when you could have this peace of mind and just make sure. Yeah. It would be incredibly frustrating. I.
Morgan
It would be. It would be hard for me to stand by someone like this, because no matter how much you love them, you have someone who doesn't love themselves enough to, like, just do basic care. And it's like, okay, well, you know, you can have 10 years, but this is super preventable. If they catch it. If they just. All they have to do is literally. They cauterize it and they snip it and they pull it out. Like, it's.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
It is so simple. And we'll talk more about that in a second. But it essentially is like, you're signing up then for a lottery where you could end up with a partner with cancer, that you then have to support them through cancer. They might not make it out. And having watched my mom do this with her partner, it is horrible. It's. Colon cancer is one of the worst things I've ever seen, Ever. I worked in a neuro unit in ucla. I saw brain cancer. I've seen strokes. I've seen a lot of stuff. Colon cancer is so, so, so bad. It's just really frustrating when it's like. It's all. It's so preventable, and it's like you're embarrassed. Why? Because someone putting a camera up your ass. Why do you think that's gay? Healthcare is not Gay. Nothing about that. Like, what are you so threatened by? And that maybe is some toxic, you know, masculinity playing out? Maybe he's truly just scared because he also does say, what if they find something bad? So I know he's scared.
Justin
Better now than later.
Morgan
But again, going in and getting a colonoscopy, it can be so simple. It can be so easy. Justin's friend, he has to get colonoscopies, like, once every year, every other year.
Justin
Once every six months.
Morgan
Right now, yeah, because he found something. But he actually stays awake for his colonoscopies because he doesn't like getting put under. It's really scary for him. And so on one of his last ones, they found a big mass, and he had just been in a year before, and within a year, he developed this huge mass, and he has Crohn's. So he is, like, very susceptible to this. But now he's got to go every six months because of this. But if he can do it and stay awake during it, you guys, we can all do this. Colon Cancer Awareness Month.
Justin
We need to do this.
Morgan
We need to do this. The incident rate of colon cancer in young adults is going up. It's rising so, so, so much. And we've had people reach out because of the podcast, because of talking about this, because of, you know, mentioning Colon Cancer Awareness Month, and they've said, like, I went and got a colonoscopy, and they found stage three colon cancer, but I'm gonna be okay now. Or I had stage four, but I'm okay now. Like, we need to keep talking about this and making sure we're all looking after ourselves. And if you have a doctor that says, ah, you're too young. You don't need a colonoscopy yet.
Justin
Find a different one.
Morgan
Find a different one. Find a different one and mention the symptoms of colon cancer, and you will find someone that will do a colonoscopy for you. Like, you might need to advocate for yourself. And that is so hard. It's so frustrating, but it can literally save your life. My mom's husband who passed away, he went for quite some time to the doctor. I'm bleeding. I have a lot of pain when I pass stools. I'm really uncomfortable. My stomach hurts. And the doctor kept brushing it off as hemorrhoids. Oh, it's just hemorrhoids. Just hemorrhoids. Refused to do a colonoscopy, said, ah, just poop in the box. It's easier. He got a false negative. And sure enough, when they did the colonoscopy riddled with cancer?
Justin
Yep.
Morgan
And then they did chest X rays. Cancer had spread to his lungs. I mean, don't wait. So, yeah, I think this is a huge grievance and I do think it's a fair ultimatum. And maybe that's because I've just been so close to it. I'm obviously listening to the story with my own triggers, but I would say this is a faulty match if you can't align on big issues like this.
Justin
Especially as he's complaining about his stomach issues.
Morgan
I know.
Justin
I mean, it's hard to watch someone sit there and complain and then do nothing about it when you can go do something.
Morgan
I know.
Justin
You know, so, like, that's another thing. And also, who's going to know if you go get a colonoscopy? No, the doctor and the few nurses and the check in person at the desk. It's not like it gets plastered on your forehead for the rest of your life. Hey, I got a colonoscopy. And honestly, that's a badge I would wear proudly if it did get displayed. Yeah, I did go get a colonoscopy. You know, I care about my health and my future and being here for the people I love.
Morgan
This is frustrating. So this, interestingly enough, the username it's posted by is Automod. And then shortly after this post, Automod posted another post labeled do youo have Butts? Read this. And it's like every year thousands of young people hear the words, you have colorectal cancer, cancer of the colon or rectum. It's terrifying. It's the deadliest cancer in men under 50 and second in young women. And we'd be assholes if we didn't tell you the truth. It doesn't have to be this way. It is the most preventable cancer with screening and highly treatable if caught early. So why is it upending the lives of so many young people? In a word, stigma. And they just go on to share like a bunch of stats and things like that. But I mean, it's so. It's so important, you guys. So I see where OP is at and this post is really interesting. I'm not sure what the mods of Am I the Asshole Are doing. I'm not sure if Auto Mod took the post over under their own username to make sure it didn't get removed. Because the pinned comment right now is this from Am I the Asshole Mod team. We know conflicts regarding medical situations are not allowed, but this time it's different. Am I. The asshole is approaching 25 million members. Ugh. Why is this gonna make me cry? It's just like such an amazing thing to see, like such a big community raise awareness in this way. To celebrate, we the mods have partnered with Colorectal Cancer alliance to raise awareness and funds to help defeat the second deadliest cancer in the U.S. here's how you can help. Learn the symptoms. Bleeding, persistent change in bowel habits, unexplained weight loss, abdominal pain. Don't ignore them. Advocate for yourself. Get checked starting at 45. If you're at risk, you should be getting checked at the age of 45. Some people need to get checked earlier. The alliance screening quiz can provide you with recommendations. And three, support the mission. I think the actual top comment on this post is this. I'm watching a friend slowly die from colon cancer. He resisted getting a colonoscopy for years, and when he finally had one, they found stage four. I fully support your ultimatum.
Justin
Yep. So real. None of this is hypothetical. This is real.
Morgan
No, this next comment, 100%. My dad was dead before 50 because he self diagnosed himself with hemorrhoids and refused to go get an exam until it was too late. He was stage four. He died a few months later. He left a widow alone to raise two teenagers. Get checked, you guys. Ugh. This is our year. This is your year. Get your ass checked. It's not a big deal. I've heard it's the best nap you'll ever have. So many people have been like, it was not that bad to do the prep. You drank the drink. You pooped a little.
Justin
Oh, it's gotten way better. It's gotten way better in recent years.
Morgan
Way better. And then they were like, it's the best nap I've ever had.
Justin
Need that right about now.
Morgan
Same after the wedding. We're gonna go in. We're gonna hold hands as we do our prep. You'll be in one bathroom, I'll be in the other.
Justin
Imagine if we had toilets that close. Side by side toilets.
Morgan
I'm not there yet. Soon though, maybe. I'm starting to pass gas a lot more. What have I been saying lately? Not audibly, but what have I been saying?
Justin
Ghastly. Then I. All I picture is a room feeling filling with green like they do in the cartoons.
Morgan
I've literally. You guys, I've literally been farting. And then Justin will, like, come walk into the room. I'm like, nope, can't come in here. Leak.
Justin
And then I imagine, like, the hazmat suit and the the mass. The respirator coming on.
Morgan
Oh, my God. It's so bad. It's so bad. But okay, one last one for us. Okay, so this next one is coming from Aitah. It is titled am I the asshole for snapping at my husband that he needs to get over his ADHD quirk? I have some ADHD quirks.
Justin
Depends what it is.
Morgan
Could you name some of them right now? The sounds thing's probably my biggest.
Justin
Oh, yeah. Repetitive noises. Well, I think you've made that one of mine, because I'm doing it as a preventative. Prevent. Preventive. Before you say something about it. So something starts rattling in the car. I'm like, oh, my God, what is it? I have to figure out what it is. And I don't say that, but I'm, like, trying to figure it out before Morgan's like, what's the rattling? It's trying to stop.
Morgan
Just focus in on it.
Justin
Preemptive preventative.
Morgan
Yeah, I think both.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
Let's see what this one is. I really try to understand my husband's ADHD quirks and sensitivities, but this one made me snap. Apparently, I blink my eyes too loudly. It annoys him so badly that he's raised his voice, telling me to stop and will storm out of the room if we're laying in bed, watching a movie or trying to sleep. He says, I don't do it all the time, but he cannot handle the noise of my blinking most nights. I finally snapped at him last night after he told me to stop doing it, saying something along the lines of, quote, you need to get over this or take responsibility of your ADHD and stop thinking this is normal. For context, he's been to therapy and has been on medication for ADHD but has since quit because he doesn't like it. So am I the asshole for snapping at him?
Justin
Well, I think you met a snap with a snap. You know, it's not like he went about this all nice and whatever, raising his voice and basically asking you to stop. Involuntary human function that you can't help. I mean, it's just. Just bizarre, you know? It's like asking someone to stop. Have you stopped breathing? Can you stop breathing?
Morgan
Literally?
Justin
Like, oh, yeah, sure.
Morgan
All right, let me just not blink ever again. You can't.
Justin
And now you're gonna think about that all the time. You're gonna try not blink, and then you're probably gonna blink harder because you're not blinking.
Morgan
Do blinks actually make noise?
Justin
I think they can blink if you have big eyelashes.
Morgan
Okay. Like, try blinking into your microphone real quick. Let's see if it picks it up.
Justin
No chance. Not with this. These won't pick that up.
Morgan
You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I've ever heard someone blink. I know there's, like, the blink sound effect that we all know from, like, what's that? Perry the Platypus guy from that Disney show, Phineas and Ferb. The platypus always blinks. Blink. Like, there's the noise.
Justin
Oh, yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm. I'm. I think it's possible. He probably has really good hearing, similar to I do, because I feel like I hear some things that nobody else hears. Yeah, but it's kind of crazy to think that they should blink. Lighter. Stop blinking. Yeah, it's like, all right, if we were truly in a happy, amazing relationship, you would not be mad about my blinking.
Morgan
Well, and then it begs the question, like, is that truly adhd? Because mine is a sound thing too. I don't really like repetitive noises, but how is he hearing the blinks? Then I'm like, what are you, Daredevil? You have, like, crazy, insane hearing.
Justin
Maybe, but. But if that is true and it is linked to adhd, then, yeah, you. You're gonna have to work on it. Otherwise, we're not gonna work out because I can't stop blinking, dude.
Morgan
Yeah. No. And then at that point, I'm like, okay, faulty match. Top comment on this one. Whatever this is, it isn't adhd. Someone goes, misophonia, maybe. Top comment responds, maybe, but that requires an actual sound. Blinking does not make any sounds. Sometimes air can be trapped under eyelids, and that will make a very subtle noise. But the act of blinking itself is silent. Someone responds. It can make that little wet clicking sound, like when you open your mouth, but tinier. Oh, my God. I, like, hear it in my head. Now that I'm blinking. Op responds, that's exactly what he describes it as. Wet glass clinking together. Okay, this guy's got crazy hearing. Someone responds, yes, I have autism, and sometimes this bothers me, but I can only even hear it from my own blinking. It usually means I'm dehydrated, too. Either way, he should not be screaming at you about this.
Justin
Right.
Morgan
If it's bothering him that much, earplugs may be a solution. I had a roommate with severe misophonia, and she'd wear them to sleep. Just seconding that, I also have autism and can hear blinking. It can be so frustrating. He still shouldn't shout at you.
Justin
Right.
Morgan
Which I get like odd adhd, like is a thing. So like maybe he falls into that category and he's actually like autistic. And maybe the ADHD was like a diagnosis that, that when he was diagnosed, like fit at the time, but he's actually autistic.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
I think those little loops, they're called loops, earplugs. Or like any little earplugs that like just dampen the sound but still allow you to hear and not take away from the world are great. That could really help him.
Justin
Yeah. Or maybe get like a California king size bed. And at night you. You're as far apart as possible.
Morgan
Spread out.
Justin
Maybe the blink doesn't travel that far.
Morgan
Spread out.
Justin
How can he hear him while the movie's playing?
Morgan
I don't know.
Justin
Because I think you could hear it.
Morgan
If it was quiet.
Justin
Dead silent.
Morgan
Once you get tuned into a noise though.
Justin
That's true, that's true.
Morgan
And then I'm like, op, like maybe you should get your eyes checked and make sure your eyes are good. And maybe you're dehydrated. Like, I don't know, like it's not your fault at all. Op. But if it's that loud and other people are like, I'm usually dehydrated. I'm like, drink some water too. I don't know. I don't know.
Justin
Yeah, that's hard to think about that all the time. Or my blinks too loud.
Morgan
No, it's crazy.
Justin
That'd be a lot.
Morgan
It's crazy. So we do get a little bit of an update. I really appreciate everyone's comments. I had my husband read them over as well and he agrees that taking his frustration out on me was not okay.
Justin
Yeah.
Morgan
While he hasn't raised this concern until recently, our best guess is that a traumatic birth back in June is likely causing a ton of stress and making it worse. We did test it out and he can certainly hear me blinking or some sound that aligns with the timing. Even if his eyes are closed or I'm turned away. I agree with the folks saying it's likely misophonia and not an ADHD symptom. He says it's like wet glass clinking sound similar to other people. In the comments. He has apologized and agreed to go back to therapy, see his doctor for a potential diagnosis, slash full psych evaluation and try some earplugs. It could also be brought on by suddenly stopping his medication, so he's going to speak with his doc about that as well. In the meantime, he's agreed to sleep on the couch if he can't cope and to not even bring up the blinking to me. Fingers crossed it lasts. Thanks again, everyone.
Justin
Okay, so we end on a not faulty relationship.
Morgan
That seems like a good resolution. Yeah, he's working on it. He's trying his best. So there we go. There we have it.
Justin
There you have an actual partnership.
Morgan
Yeah, that's how it's done. Yeah, that's how it's done. Well, Justin has to run to the airport to get back to Minnesota to prep for our wedding.
Justin
I set it all up by myself.
Morgan
No, I'm coming back in two days. I just have a bunch more recordings to get done. So I will be there soon. But I'm gonna patch in a happy, feel good relationship story just so we have even more of a glimmer of hope, because you can find your match. I do think there's a good match, a perfect match. A left shoe, a right shoe for everyone out there. So don't settle. I think the bottom line on a lot of these stories we read week after week is don't settle. Find your person, and I'm gonna find a story to show you how good it can really be.
Justin
And that's not to say there won't be faults like we just saw a fault y But a not faulty relationship can work through the faults and figure them out together versus let the fault take you down.
Morgan
Well, on that note, mic drop. Thank you guys for being here. Another episode. Appreciate all your support this year. It honestly has made a lot of my dream wedding wishes happen. Like, I really we would not be able to have the dream wedding we're having without you guys and you guys listening. So I appreciate you all being here and wish us luck. Tune in for the wedding video that's coming. We have such an amazing team. We're putting together a really fun video. I'm so excited about our pictures. I'm so excited about the day and just how much fun it's gonna be, and I'm excited to share it with all you guys. If you want more, head over to Patreon. We've got three amazing bonus episodes in September. Two trio episodes. Me, Justin, Michaela, and then me, Justin and Lauren. And then the third one. Third episode I'm gonna let be a surprise for you. But other than that. Until next time.
Justin
Until next time.
Morgan
Bye, guys. Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.
Justin
Oh, come on.
Morgan
They called a truce for their holiday.
Justin
And used Expedia trip planner to collaborate.
Morgan
On all the details of the trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool. Whatever. You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition.
Justin
Expedia made to travel.
Hosts: Morgan Absher and Justin
Theme: An exploration of “faulty” relationships – mismatched couples, red flags, and questionable behaviors, all dissected with sharp humor and personal insight.
This episode, airing just days before Morgan and Justin’s own wedding, dives into Reddit, listener submissions, and internet stories spotlighting degree-of-disaster relationships. With their own nuptials looming, the hosts reflect on compatibility and the warning signs that differentiate a fixable quirk from a reason to run.
Story: A woman posts about her fiancé, who insists she break her hymen “as a favor” before their wedding to avoid blood on their wedding night but also expects her to abstain from further activity to “keep it tight for him.”
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Faulty match with signs of manipulation. At best, a serious conversation is required; at worst, a warning to reconsider the whole relationship.
Story: A new mom reveals her husband belittles her postpartum body, refuses physical affection unless she loses weight, and is secretly on Tinder. After confiding in her dad, she's told to “work out and eat less.”
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Clear, irredeemable “faulty match.” Advice: Prioritize safety, document evidence, seek legal counsel, and plan for a safe exit.
Story: OP continues watching her ex (who rapidly moved on to his younger sister’s 19-year-old friend) via cameras she still has access to post-breakup.
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Everyone is at fault to a degree; emotional messiness on both sides, plus ethical/legal gray zones. Sometimes closure is just logging off.
Story: Couple vacations together, but the boyfriend upgrades to first class alone, leaving the girlfriend in a middle seat.
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Possibly a fixable lapse if not habitual, but worth noting for future patterns. Consideration in the small things matters.
Story: OP catches her fiancé writing vows about “the moment you stepped into that coffee shop wearing a yellow dress”—a story about his ex, not her.
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Big emotional disconnect; a “yellow flag” at minimum. If he stays defensive or minimizes, be concerned.
Story: OP’s boyfriend with a colon cancer family history refuses a colonoscopy out of embarrassment; OP calls him an “idiot” and questions the relationship.
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Health avoidance affecting the relationship is a dealbreaker worth ultimatums—everyone deserves a partner who wants to stick around.
Story: OP’s husband demands she “stop blinking so loudly,” storms off, and blames ADHD. She snaps and says it’s time to deal with it.
Hosts’ Analysis:
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Each segment is introduced by Morgan, read from a Reddit/listeners’ post, then analyzed by both hosts. Commentary is balanced between humor and empathy, often referencing their own experiences or prior podcast episodes.