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James
Okay, let's go.
Sam
It's been three years.
James
It has been three years.
Fuhad
Yeah, it has.
Sam
Three years.
Fuhad
Are you joking? Three years. Yep. No, that makes me uncomfortable.
James
Time flies, bro.
Sam
I listened to our episode too. Cause I'm like, what the hell did I tell them last time? I need to make sure I don't tell them twice. And we were a little off the rails last time. Oh, we had, like, the guy who was feeding his girlfriend sawdust to make her skinnier.
Fuhad
That was crazy.
James
It was crazy.
Sam
Yeah, yeah, I read.
Fuhad
I'm sorry to make it skinny. It's crazy hilarious because that's obviously. Yeah. Illegal.
Sam
Illegal.
Fuhad
Illegal. Yeah. Go to jail. But that's funny.
Sam
But I feel like you guys had such good takes about, like, the male brain and, like, a guy's perspective. Okay, so we're getting back into it today for a theme. I'm like, male perspective or boy brain. I call it boy brain.
Fuhad
Boy brain's a good.
James
I like boy brain.
Sam
Boy brain. And I'm like, well, I just can't figure out some of the stuff that guys will do.
Fuhad
Sorry. It landed late in it. He did a big pause. Yeah, that was a good pause. Boy brain. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Sam
What head are you thinking? With. It's like another way to say.
Fuhad
Yeah, childish. Sorry.
James
Yeah, don't mind me.
Fuhad
So childish.
Sam
No, I enjoy it. That's why. That's why you guys are bad.
Fuhad
Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. We'll lean into childishness. Of course.
Sam
Yeah. No, just you guys are so good. I mean, your show is amazing. Chits and gigs. Thank you so much. Which. Here I go again. Not introduce my guests to you guys if you haven't met them before on the past episode. I've got James and Fuhad in the studio from Shits and gigs.
Fuhad
Thanks for having us. This is very homely. It is.
James
It's nice. Very nice.
Fuhad
It's very nice. Someone said the other day is actually, is it homey or homely? I saw it like a debate in a tick tock comment section the other day.
Sam
Homie is like, it's cozy. It's a cute home environment. Homely means ugly.
Fuhad
Really? Shut up.
Sam
Haven't you heard someone described as like, oh, they're so homely looking?
James
Never in my life.
Fuhad
Never that. No, no.
Sam
What?
Fuhad
Homely. You look homely. I've heard like homeless.
James
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Sam
Homely looking has a different meaning based on region.
James
Okay.
Sam
In us it generally describes a person as plain unattractive or not good looking.
Fuhad
Damn. I thought it was just cozy.
James
Yeah, I've never heard that before.
Sam
Yeah, yeah. In British English though, it means cozy, comfortable or unpretentious. Thank God.
Fuhad
Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Sam
You thought you were going to get in so much trouble.
Fuhad
Yeah, I agree. Okay. No, sorry. Cool.
Sam
Yeah. Which is crazy that like we would have such different versions.
Fuhad
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Sam
What's another one you can think of?
James
It's more so spelling more than anything as opposed to different meanings.
Fuhad
No, there definitely is. There definitely is some. Obviously. There's Obviously. There's the cigarette one.
Sam
What's that one?
Fuhad
I'm not gonna say it.
Sam
Everyone knows the cigarette, but I can't say it now. I have to Google when we're done here.
Fuhad
Ok, cool.
Sam
Okay. What do you guys m u m?
Fuhad
Yeah. Mum.
Sam
Are you? So someone told me when I say mum, you guys actually say mom, but it's your accent or are they lying to me?
James
No, we say mum. We don't say mom.
Sam
Thank you.
Fuhad
Yeah, we say mom.
Sam
Thank you.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
Someone is like, it's still mom.
Fuhad
No, mom, it's mum.
Sam
Yeah, thank you. People are trying to gaslight me in the comments.
Fuhad
Oh, no. Yeah. 100% mom.
James
You're good.
Sam
Okay. Okay. I love it. Okay, without further ado, let's get into these stories, shall we?
James
Let some excited.
Sam
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Fuhad
Nice.
Sam
It's titled My boyfriend said I wasn't the prettiest girl he's dated in an argument and then asked me for a threesome.
James
Okay.
Fuhad
How did those two even.
James
Yeah, how did that land?
Sam
Not sure how to move forward.
James
It's a brave soul.
Sam
OK, I, 22, female, have been dating my boyfriend, 36 male, on and off for about a year.
Fuhad
Okay. That's a gap.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. 14 years. Jesus. Right? Okay.
Sam
Recently, we got into an argument after he saw that men were reacting to my Instagram selfie with heart emojis.
Fuhad
I see.
James
I know where this is going.
Sam
Some of these men I don't even know. He accused me of cheating and questioned why men felt comfortable messaging me if I'm in a relationship. I told him I couldn't control what other men do.
Fuhad
Valid.
Sam
And that his reaction felt insecure, especially since I was just starting to feel more confident posting pictures of myself. When I called him insecure, he got upset and said I'm, quote, not the prettiest girl he's been with.
Fuhad
That.
James
What a loser. What a fucking loser.
Fuhad
He's clutching at any anything.
James
He's insecure like crazy.
Fuhad
Okay, cool.
Sam
Yeah, that really hurt me, especially since I already struggle with insecurity. I left, and afterward he apologized and said he didn't mean it. But the comment stuck with me. I feel like he meant it and it made me feel like I'm not enough. A few weeks later, he asked if I would be open to having a threesome with another woman. I said no because I want a monogamous relationship and it goes against my boundaries. Yeah, that situation made me feel even more like I'm not enough for him. This all happened a few months ago, but it still bothers me. I feel insecure around him now and don't feel beautiful in the relationship. I'm not sure how to move forward or forgive him. And I'm wondering if I'm overreacting or being too sensitive.
Fuhad
Pause. Have you ever done any voiceover work? Your reeds are phenomenal.
James
Very, very good.
Sam
I'm trying.
Fuhad
I was locked in.
Sam
I'm trying to get my calm sponsorship. Let me just lull people to bed.
Fuhad
Fantastic.
James
Yeah, you got a great voice. No, she's not overreacting. And no, she's not oversensitive.
Fuhad
This guy's a crazy person.
James
He is a master manipulator. I feel like I don't even know
Fuhad
if he's a master.
James
No, he's not. I think he wants to be a master manipulator.
Fuhad
I think amateur manipulator.
James
Yeah. This is a. No pun intended. Hot T take. But he's 36, she's 22. I think he wanted to find someone he could try and.
Fuhad
Oh, my God, maybe Gaslight or, like,
James
try and manipulate her feelings and whatnot and make him feel like the alpha of the relationship. Like, she said guys posting on her pictures she has no control over. For her to call him insecure is correct. Because he is insecure.
Sam
Yeah, that's a read.
James
And because he got attacked by his own. I don't know, his own reality of being insecure, he lashed out and said, oh, you're not even that good looking anyway. And I feel like there's every truth in any kind of dig you want to give someone. I feel like there's a slight of truth to it. So if he said that to her, he must feel it. And I feel like. Because. Hence the threesome question. Like, why is he gonna try and instigate a threesome if he's happy? Why would you even instigate that in a relationship in the first place? Personally, I would, but, yeah, he's.
Sam
No, it's definitely. It feels like negating where it's like he's trying to be super negative about her and instill insecurity, so then she tries to seek his validation.
James
What's that? Pavlov? Is it Pavlov's Law? What's it called?
Fuhad
Pavlov's.
James
Yeah, Pavlov's Dogs. Not Pavlov's Dogs. That's something else. It's like Stockholm syndrome kind of situation.
Fuhad
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
James
What's the one where you need your mom? That documentary where she. The daughter needed her mom so much, Was it Stockholm syndrome she referred to
Fuhad
the one with the mum was the bullying online.
Sam
Oh my gosh. I still have to watch that one.
Fuhad
Oh, it was dark. It was something special.
Sam
And then she was trying to get with the daughter's boyfriend, right?
Fuhad
She was, yeah, she was. I forgot about that slime. The mum was pure evil.
James
Yeah. But yeah, he called that syndrome. They called it something where the daughter needed the mom. She wanted the feeling of the daughter needing her mom so she couldn't stop this perpetual cycle of cyberbullying her.
Sam
My God, it's almost like Munchausens in a way or something.
James
That might have actually been.
Sam
Was it?
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
Okay. Yeah, like you make your kids think they're sick or like.
Fuhad
Yeah, you like poison your kids so that they need you.
Sam
Yeah, yeah. Like Gypsy Rose or whatever.
James
Day six, 22. There we go. My Munchausen.
Sam
Yeah.
James
Arsenal answered.
Fuhad
Munchausen. 14 year gap.
James
Arsenason answered.
Fuhad
Yeah, this guy's crazy person. But yeah, he definitely was hoping, getting with like a little young 22, that he would feel like the greatest thing of all time. And then as soon as he saw the competition, he was like, nah, this is not what I signed up for. Yeah, the competition, to be fair, this is not what my brain.
James
In his shoes, the competition would rock me.
Fuhad
But when he asked her, it would rock me. If they know you're in a relationship, why are they doing this? Yeah, bro. Yeah, he's lost balance. He doesn't know what. He doesn't know what reality he signed up to.
Sam
No, because I'm like two. He's 36, dating a 22 year old. I'm 32. Like I can't imagine dating a 20 year old.
James
Yeah. What are you talking about?
Sam
I don't even know. I don't know what we talk about. They'd be like 6, 7, 6, 7.
Fuhad
It'd be this all day. I wouldn't be able to keep up.
Sam
What are you talking about here? I don't know what I would do. So I'm like, what is that? Where you know what happens between all genders, whatever. But I feel like it's more typically like the boy brain where they, they, they date so young sometimes I'm like, what?
Fuhad
I don't know what it is.
Sam
What are we doing?
Fuhad
I don't know. I actually. Yeah, I actually don't know what it is. Especially if we're talking like long term relationships and stuff. I don't know what it is. Unless it's just like an ego thing.
James
Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I think that's the only thing you Put it down. He's.
Fuhad
He's lost. And then. Yeah. Did the. He did the Munch. The Munchausens.
James
Yeah. He's munching on that boy.
Fuhad
Yeah. And then tried to spin it with threesome.
Sam
That's.
James
Yeah, the threesome is get out of jail free card. T, he wanted some, I don't know,
Sam
get out of jail free card.
Fuhad
What the does that even mean? I don't even know.
James
I don't even know how you pattern that.
Fuhad
Yeah. Wow.
Sam
No, it is. It does feel like a. I'm going to really knock her when she's already down. Let me see what I can get away with.
Fuhad
Yeah. Do you remember when I said that you're not the prettiest girl I've been with? I need another girl as well.
James
Just to balance the scales.
Fuhad
Yeah. Just because.
James
Yeah. This ain't working for me.
Fuhad
Yeah. He's lost his mind. She needs to escape immediately.
James
Immediately.
Sam
Top comment is just girl.
James
Oh, yeah.
Fuhad
That's it. Girl again.
James
This is the manipulation factor. Young 22. Maybe her friends around her aren't telling her the right things. She needs to be told. He's an older guy. Maybe he can look after you. Because he's 36, they're not giving her the best advice. So I think in that manipulation aspect, he's trying to win her over psychologically in the wrong way.
Sam
Absolutely. Wow.
Fuhad
That was funny.
Sam
There's another comment. How to move on. You move on without him.
Fuhad
Yes.
Sam
Besides the predatory age gap. He does not respect you and he's mean 100%.
James
And she's so young as well. She's got so much to live for.
Sam
World is your oyster.
James
At 22, I don't even know I was doing a 22. Boy.
Fuhad
I was poor and miserable. Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
If a 36 year old woman was. Was helping me out.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. She could munch me or she wants bro, I'm there. Yeah. I'll be housing.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
100.
Fuhad
Yeah. She'd be talking to me about threesomes and I'm like, yeah, whatever, babe.
James
Whatever, babe.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
I was in the pits.
James
The yard will be spotless as well. Yeah. Oh, my yard will be spotless.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. So, yeah, I understand how you fall into the situation like that. Wow. My God.
Sam
I don't even recall. I'm like, where was I? It wasn't. Yeah. I didn't have money, but it was fun.
Fuhad
Yeah. At 22, we had just graduated and I was working as a personal trainer and I specifically remember I was making £370 a week. That was killing me.
James
I was a bartender first year, and I was getting paid weekly as well, but I couldn't say how much I was making. But it was. It wasn't as miserable as your 26. Yeah, yours was dark, but it wasn't the greatest.
Sam
No.
James
You had a car then, though. That's one thing I was envious of. I was like, how can I be on my wage and afford a car? It just didn't make sense.
Fuhad
I had a car, but I was topping it up. Literally, like £9 a time in petrol
Sam
just to pop a punch.
Fuhad
Literally just to make it to. I live four minutes from work, and I would just make it to work and back. It was miserable.
Sam
No, Yeah, I think I. I was a flight attendant around this time, and I think I made. Well, I made fifteen hundred dollars a month. So it's about your weekly?
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
Like, it's not much when you're new on reserves.
Fuhad
So is that how much you were making as a flight attendant?
Sam
I thought.
Fuhad
I didn't know. I thought you guys were just balling. I don't know why.
James
Maybe there's.
Sam
Once you get up and you have seniority, then it's like, okay, it's a pretty penny, but when you're new, you're only guaranteed. Like, I think I was guaranteed 75 hours a month. That's it. Because you're on call your. Your reserves when you're new. So you don't make much. Initially, yeah.
Fuhad
Was it all domestic or.
Sam
No, some international, but it was for a small airline in Minnesota. So I would just, like. I'd go to, like, Jamaica and back the same day. So I like, would peek my head out the window, see the palm trees, feel the breeze, and then I was gone right back. It was torture.
Fuhad
How long did you do that for?
Sam
Just a year. And then I got into grad school.
Fuhad
Nice.
Sam
Yeah, it was quick, luckily, but. Okay. Moving on to this next one. This is coming from R. Am I overreacting? It's titled am I overreacting for getting irritated with my Boyfriend's Level of cleanliness.
James
Interesting. Interesting.
Sam
My 29, female boyfriend, 32 male, thinks this is a normal way to live. It honestly disgusts me and turns me off. He talks about me moving into his house, but I flat out tell him I'm not moving in because of this and I don't want to be tasked with cleaning up after him because it would make me resent him. He also hasn't lived without a woman in his house in years. He lived with his ex Girlfriend and now his sister lives with him. His sister basically cleans the house and does the chores besides his laundry and cleaning his room. I asked him if his ex girlfriend was in charge of all the chores previously, and he said yes. I don't want to move in and become a maid. Am I overreacting? And we do have some pictures. Okay.
Fuhad
Oh, okay. That's fine.
Sam
Okay, this is photo number one.
James
Fuck off.
Fuhad
That's okay, right? I. Okay, right. He who doesn't instinctively at least run the.
James
Run the tap.
Fuhad
There's not a drop of water that's touched that hair.
Sam
No, none. Also, that's gonna clog the drain.
James
Yeah, it is.
Fuhad
What? What? Did he even shave?
James
I think that can't be the. That's tasting a chest.
Sam
Chest.
James
That has. Unless he just. I don't know where that's from.
Fuhad
I don't know where that's from.
Sam
That's picture one.
Fuhad
Okay, fair enough. That's pretty crazy.
James
That is crazy.
Fuhad
I wasn't expecting that.
Sam
Picture two.
Fuhad
Hang on. Is that shit on the.
James
Yeah, yeah, that's splashback.
Fuhad
But how do you get shit there?
James
I don't know, bro.
Fuhad
Because he would have put that seat down.
Sam
Yeah, there's shit on the lid.
Fuhad
That's. No, no, that's serious splashback.
Sam
Is he leaning over and it slices up?
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah, he must have. He must be shitting directly into the bowl and then leaning forward and then
James
just directly into the bowl is heinous. I would never live with a man like that.
Sam
Maybe he's hovering.
Fuhad
Why are you hovering? He's in trouble.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
What is that stainage at the top? What is that?
Sam
Don't toilet seats, like, turn yellow and discolor from oil?
James
I don't know.
Fuhad
I've never seen that phenomenon.
Sam
Okay.
Fuhad
I don't know.
Sam
Well, you know the craziest part, too? He has a bidet.
James
Oh, he does.
Fuhad
Oh, he does.
Sam
There's a bidet.
Fuhad
Wow. And he just doesn't bother.
James
Doesn't give a fuck.
Fuhad
Maybe that's where the stains are from. Maybe he has so much leftover cake, when he turns on the bidet, it's just everywhere.
James
It's just everywhere. And he doesn't clean up that cleanup. He doesn't clean up that mess around.
Fuhad
He just gets up and cracks on.
Sam
Well, there's hair. Like, if you look. If you really zoom in.
Fuhad
Oh, come on.
Sam
I'm like. There's hair all around. Like, long pieces of hair.
Fuhad
I can't stop with the hair. Okay, what's going on in the corner there?
Sam
Full trash.
Fuhad
No, full trash. This guy's a sicko.
James
He is.
Fuhad
He really is.
Sam
Contact cases, condom wrappers, floss, contact cases.
Fuhad
That's a pink eye hazard feeding ground.
Sam
Yeah. Like you know that when you take a fresh contact out, like those little things. But we don't know if he's putting them in his eye while he sits on the toilet.
James
I won't put it.
Fuhad
We can speculate.
James
Yeah. I won't put it past him. Yeah, he's an animal. He's a fucking animal.
Sam
So your boy brain cannot relate.
Fuhad
Yeah. Nah, nah, I can. Okay. I want to put myself in his shoes. I can see how. I can see how things can really snowball. X has left. She was taking care of everything. And between then and now, he's just let it all go into like full zoo mode. And I can see where new homegirls come in. This is his rock bottom.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
And she's thinking, I'm not. I'm not tolerating this.
Sam
I mean, I wouldn't be able to live with this.
Fuhad
No, no one should live with that.
Sam
No one should live with. No. I mean, how do you brush your teeth?
Fuhad
That doesn't make sense.
Sam
If your sink is full of hair, how do you brush your teeth?
Fuhad
That doesn't make sense because where is that from? That has to be a one off
Sam
because it's giving face. It looks like facial hair.
Fuhad
That's an entire beard off.
James
Yeah, that is a whole beard.
Sam
Yeah. I think he started fresh.
Fuhad
No way. Okay. Right. I'm trying to wrap my head around it. So the guy's a fucking dog.
James
Yeah, he is.
Fuhad
And he wants her to move in. She's asked him who was doing it before. He said X was doing it before.
Sam
And his sister's doing it now.
Fuhad
Oh, his sister's doing it now. The sister's doing a terrible job. For starters, the fact that he said the sister's doing it now. And it looks like that the sister's doing a terrible job.
James
She's had enough. Clearly.
Fuhad
I would.
Sam
How do you get someone like this to start cleaning? Like, if this was your partner, like, what do you say to your partner to be like, I'm not gonna be your maid.
Fuhad
You have to. For me. It would just embarrass me. Yeah, just embarrass me.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
And just like, I think it would literally take one time for her to be like, this is fucking disgusting.
James
Is this how you live?
Fuhad
Yeah, this is disgusting.
James
Is this how you live?
Fuhad
And then I'll be on my hands and knees, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub. I Think I seem to be humiliated.
James
I think my hot take is he was. He was and always has been a mama's boy.
Fuhad
100%.
James
Yeah. His mum has done everything for him since he was a kid. He moved out. His missus did everything for him. She left. His sister does everything for him. She will leave him soon.
Fuhad
So, yeah, he's clearly.
James
He has. No, he's just leapfrogging.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Literally, he doesn't know how to live by himself. He won't survive a week without someone being there with him.
Fuhad
Wow.
James
It's clear. I think that's. That's traumatic, if anything.
Fuhad
I know. Oh, that's sad.
Sam
Top comment, not overreacting. And then they share a gif.
Fuhad
Oh, yeah.
Sam
Jim Carrey.
Fuhad
Classic gag.
Sam
Yeah. This needs a not safe for work tag.
Fuhad
Yeah. With that hair.
James
Especially those shit stains.
Fuhad
No, the shit stains. I've never seen anything like that.
Sam
That's crazy. No, no.
Fuhad
His diet is the first thing we
James
need to talk about. Yeah. That needs to change. You know his fridge is mercs?
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
He's got bear gone off shit in the fridge.
Fuhad
The fridge is going to be a disaster.
James
Empty cupboards.
Fuhad
Yeah. Two plates.
James
One for him sister.
Fuhad
Yeah. Yeah, probably. Probably eats directly out of the pot.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
He makes pasta and deletes. Eats it straight out of the pot. That made me wheeze. Facts. Because he can't be bothered with the washer. With the plates.
James
He can't be bothered. 100 doesn't know how to use a dishwasher. I already know it. No, he doesn't know the settings.
Sam
No chance. I think he's actually probably using a plate but then not washing it and just putting the new food on top of the ground.
Fuhad
That's impossible. Don't say stuff.
James
God forbid.
Fuhad
Don't say, I can't tolerate shit stains.
James
Okay. That I can't tolerate.
Fuhad
That's disgusting.
Sam
Yeah.
James
Wow.
Fuhad
His gut. Biome must be murked. Yeah. All over the shop. Yeah. Wow. We okay? Yeah, Fair enough. She shouldn't have to live like that. But it should be easy enough to like. He's not blind. He can see that sink.
Sam
He's just lazy and doesn't care.
Fuhad
Yeah, he doesn't care and that's also fair enough. At least he's 10 toes about it.
James
He's 10 toes. Yeah.
Fuhad
I'm not.
James
I'm not condoning it, but he's 10 toes.
Fuhad
At least he's 10 toes.
Sam
Yes. I must be committed.
Fuhad
Yeah. This is. At least she knows what she's signing up for.
Sam
So do you think it's breakup worthy. Because I don't think at this point, I don't think you're changing him.
Fuhad
I think it's more about compromise than change.
Sam
God, you're so nice.
Fuhad
I'm trying.
James
How'd you compromise, though, with that?
Fuhad
I love love in it. So I want this to work out for them. And clearly outside of his home, there's something about him that she loves.
James
True.
Fuhad
So we should just compromise. I think the compromise is just like. That's insane. Let's just get rid of all the insane shit and then she can take care of the rest if she. If she so pleases. Not made worthy, but like, Jesus fucking Christ. There's feces everywhere. Yeah, yeah. There's pubes everywhere. Like, what are we doing?
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
And then hopefully we can. We can find some. Some middle ground.
James
I respect that because like you said, there must be something outside of his home that she loves about him because they are together. Yeah.
Fuhad
I don't know what it is, but he has some kind of charm.
Sam
Oh, my gosh.
Fuhad
But yeah, he can. He can. He can see that. That's disgraceful.
Sam
Yeah. My advice would be to break up.
James
Really?
Fuhad
Why would you want them to break up?
Sam
I don't think you're ever going to change this guy. Maybe. Maybe he needs therapy. Maybe there's a mental health thing going on.
Fuhad
Mental health.
Sam
There could be that. But if there's not, and he's truly just lazy, he's never going to respect you. Imagine, kids. Imagine if he can't clean up after himself.
Fuhad
Yeah, okay. Okay, Okay.
Sam
I love love. I love love.
Fuhad
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam
I'm right there with you.
Fuhad
But yeah, okay.
Sam
I don't love enough wipe off a toilet for the next 60 years.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
I couldn't see the love of my life on a hands and knees cleaning up old from my toilet. Oh, that I've sprayed relentlessly now.
Sam
You know, this is. This is a little tmi. Granted, my toilet didn't look like this. Okay. I'll tell you right now. I'm so sorry.
Fuhad
Finish your thoughts. I'm just shocked.
Sam
I know. I know I married the right person because I had a colonoscopy last week.
Fuhad
Okay.
Sam
And I had to do the prep and like, you take. I took four laxatives and 14 doses of Miralax. And you do it in one sitting and just cleans you out.
James
Damn.
Sam
And I was like, don't worry, I'm gonna clean the bathroom. Like, it wasn't bad, but I was like, even if there is something, like, I want to Be the one to clean it.
Fuhad
I'm not gonna, like.
Sam
I don't want to embarrass myself between my husband, even though it's like, okay. But he literally went in there and just took care of it all.
Fuhad
Wow.
James
What a guy.
Sam
I know.
James
What a soldier.
Fuhad
Yeah, I know.
Sam
What a guy.
Fuhad
What a guy.
Sam
Just a trooper.
Fuhad
That is a real man. Cause I'd keep that directly in my back pocket. Yeah, that's for a rainy day.
Sam
An IOU.
Fuhad
Yeah. 100%. We're not. We're. We're not skirting over this. I was like, oh, you're so nice. Nope, nope. Back pocket. I'm calling this when I need it. 100% valid. Wow. He's a man. That's so funny. My husband's a real man.
James
That's so funny. It's only been a week. It might still be in his back pocket. It's only been a week.
Fuhad
Yeah. Wow.
Sam
Yeah, that's true. I owe him one, but. Okay. Moving on to this next one. This episode is brought to you by Billi. I hate feeling like I'm doing yoga in the shower just to shave and get all my nooks and crannies. That is where Billie comes in. It is going to be a razor that changes your life. Billie is designed for how women actually shave. Legs, pits, toes, happy trail wherever prickles decide to show up. It has five sharp blades and a pivoting head, so you can actually get everywhere without doing shower gymnastics. We don't need any accidents just trying to shave. And it even comes with a magnetic holder so your razor stays dry on the wall instead of sitting in a shower puddle. Been guilty of that before. Grab a Billy razor in your favorite color in store or@mybilli.com this is coming from Am I the Asshole? It is titled, am I the asshole for bringing up my sister's past divorce at her wedding.
James
Okay. Immediately, yes, 110%, yes. But I'm intrigued by the context.
Fuhad
Yes, I am.
Sam
I, 32, male, am currently single, and I was at my sister's wedding this weekend and things have gotten tense since. For Context, my sister, 29, female, was previously married for about a year. When she was 24. It ended pretty badly. There was a lot of arguing, and from my perspective, she rushed into it and ignored everyone's advice. Our family kind of just does not talk about it now, which I've always thought was weird because it happened and it clearly says something about decision making. Anyways, at her current wedding, I was asked to give a speech. No one gave me any specific guidelines.
Fuhad
There's no way.
Sam
Just say something nice. I did start nice. And I talked about growing up together, how she used to make me terrible instant coffee and stuff like that. But then I pivoted into what I thought was a meaningful point about growth.
Fuhad
Stop it.
Sam
I said something along the lines of how we have all seen her make big commitments before that did not work out and how it is important to really think things through this time. I even added that hopefully her new husband knows what he is getting into and is ready for the long haul. Unlike last time, this guy's insane. People got really quiet, but I figured it was just because I was honest. I do not think weddings should just be fake positivity. After the speech, my sister was visibly upset and told me that I humiliated her on purpose. Her husband did not say much, but looked pretty uncomfortable. A couple of relatives told me that was completely inappropriate and that a wedding is not the place to bring up past mistakes, especially something like a divorce. I told them I was trying to highlight her personal growth and the seriousness of marriage, but apparently that made it worse. My mom has not spoken to me since, and my sister says I made the happiest day of her life about her worst one. In hindsight, maybe I could have worded it differently, but I still feel like pretending the past did not exist is dishonest. At the same time, I can see why she might not have wanted it brought up right then. Am I the asshole?
Fuhad
This guy's a sociopath. He's a jealous little sociopath. I don't know what's going on. That.
James
That's insane because I can understand the aspect of trying to get to a point and you deviate and you start saying some things you're not meant to say, but you're like, no, but the point I'm trying to get is this. Fuck all that shit I've said here. This is the main point. But I think having that thought process alone was like, he should have checked himself out. Okay, this. This ain't the time. This ain't the place. I shouldn't say this here, but I think once he started, I don't think he could stop. I think that was where the downfall was. Once he, like, opened his mouth to start saying the past stuff, he just couldn't stop himself because he had to get to his point. And, yeah, that's peak he is. He is definitely the asshole.
Fuhad
Yeah. Who's vetting these speeches for starters?
Sam
No one.
James
No one.
Sam
I didn't vet him. Yeah, I didn't vet mine.
Fuhad
Oh, really? No, I mean, that makes sense. Someone should vet them, though.
James
But then again, he said it was off the dome because he said he wasn't prepared.
Fuhad
Oh, he just starts saying.
James
I'm pretty sure he said he wasn't prepared.
Sam
Yeah, he kind of just said, like, no one gave me specific guidelines. Just say something nice. And so we talked about growing up, how she used to make me terrible instant coffee.
James
He definitely just wrote shit down that day.
Sam
Also not nice.
James
Yeah.
Sam
And then I pivoted into what I thought was a meaningful point about growth. But you really just, like, dogged on her. You didn't say, like, this guy's not a good brother. I've watched my sister over the years go through some hard things, and she's come out the other side just a new person, so driven and mature, and I'm so happy she's met her match with Tom. I know he's in it for the long haul. He loves her so much.
Fuhad
Damn, like, that was good.
Sam
I mean, it's just like, I get the point you're trying to make and show how far she's come and she's this great person now or whatever, but it's like, yeah, she was married once before. It didn't last long.
Fuhad
Yeah. She's like, you're here for the long haul, new guy.
Sam
Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Wow. I can't be bothered for a third brother in law. I can't be bothered.
Sam
I don't want to meet a third guy.
Fuhad
I'm not doing this again. His take about like, oh, I don't think a wedding should just be about, like, fake happiness or whatever. That's literally what weddings are. Yeah, that's exactly what they are. Literally. Who asked for brutal honesty on a wedding? No one ever just say fake. Nice therapy.
James
It's not therapy. That's what therapy is for. And that's where he needs to go.
Sam
Yeah, it does seem like he's a hater. I was going to say, he does seem like he resents her because, like, I feel like this goes beyond just not understanding social cues.
Fuhad
Yes.
Sam
Like, you don't do this to someone unless you don't like them.
Fuhad
Top hair. This literally reminds me of. I watched the drama last week in it. Have you seen the drama?
Sam
No, I've heard it's crazy.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. Yeah, this. This is giving the drama. Oh, the speeches of that wedding were horrifying. Oh, yeah, it was. It was a lot. Damn, that is so juicy.
James
I need to watch it. I watch when I get back.
Sam
Now? Yeah, now I just see. I want to see that. And I want to see the little she. The sheep. Detectives.
Fuhad
What the hell is that?
James
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Sam
What? It's with Hugh Jackman's and it's for, like, animated.
James
I'm assuming.
Sam
He gets murdered.
Fuhad
No. He gets murdered.
Sam
Yeah, it just came out. It's about sheeps. Sheep. Sheeps. Sheep.
James
Sheep.
Fuhad
Plural of sheepish sheep.
Sam
Yeah, yeah. They become detectives to solve their farmer's murder.
Fuhad
Oh, this sounds awful.
James
It does.
Sam
Oh, it's got a 93% on rotten tomatoes.
Fuhad
I don't believe that for sure.
Sam
People are raving. They demand original content.
Fuhad
We have to support sheep detectives.
James
Is that what it's called?
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Starring Hugh Jackman. Who dies.
Sam
Well, he's in it briefly.
Fuhad
He's in the middle of the poster. That's such a fake sound.
James
That is a fake. But same how when they did Chris Brown and Stump the Yard. He died in, like, two, three minutes in. It was a piss take. Yeah. Cause that's why everyone wants to watch the movie.
Fuhad
Oh, Throne.
Sam
I mean, maybe he's in it a little longer than I expected.
James
Detectives.
Sam
Look at those little guys. Look at those cute sheep holding a magnifying glass.
Fuhad
No, we're not tolerating this. I'm sorry.
Sam
I will see it multiple times.
Fuhad
Really?
Sam
I'll tell you right now.
Fuhad
Is that your bag?
Sam
I don't. I guess.
Fuhad
Okay, cool.
Sam
My favorite movie is National Treasure.
Fuhad
With flipping homeboy.
James
Nicolas Cage.
Fuhad
Yeah, with Nick Cage.
James
That's your favorite movie?
Sam
Top five for sure. I've probably seen it over 200 times. Between one and two.
Fuhad
Damn.
James
Why?
Sam
I feel judged 100% right now.
James
No, I think my mind is blown.
Sam
That's why it's just good. It's just like a feel good. The music, the scoring is really powerful. Love a Nick Cage movie.
James
I literally don't remember.
Fuhad
I do love a Nick Cage movie. The Weatherman. Banging movie.
Sam
Face Off.
Fuhad
Face Off.
James
Face off isn't bad. Yeah.
Sam
John Travolta.
Fuhad
John Travolta. Yeah. I watched that a lot when I was a kid. I had that on vhs. Fun fact. What's the other one? Where he, like, lives a different life and then, like, he lives, like, the life of. That he should have lived.
Sam
Family Man.
Fuhad
Family Man. Banger.
Sam
Unreal Banger. Yeah. That's a good one.
Fuhad
That's a really good one.
Sam
Yeah. He's a versatile guy.
Fuhad
He is versatile.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
I don't know if National Treasure is in there.
Sam
What's your favorite movie?
Fuhad
My favorite movie is probably whiplash. I don't know if I've seen the drumming movie.
James
That's a great movie.
Sam
No, I've never seen.
Fuhad
You've never seen it?
James
That's a great movie.
Sam
No.
Fuhad
Incredible.
Sam
No, when you said drumming movie, I was like drumline. No, I've never seen this one.
Fuhad
Line I've seen a lot of times as well.
Sam
Okay, I'll put this on my list.
Fuhad
With lashes is phenomenal.
James
Intense.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. National Treasure is going to get knocked off the pedestal immediately.
Sam
You know what's crazy? It has the same score on Rotten Tomatoes as sheep detectives.
James
The 93% crazy.
Fuhad
Okay, how many reviews are we talking about? Sheep Detective must have 11.
James
He only just came out, so.
Fuhad
Yeah, I'm saying sheep detective has 11 reviews.
Sam
I don't know where I see how many.
James
It should say in brackets next to it, like a number.
Fuhad
Yeah, like a young.
Sam
304.
Fuhad
304, yep.
Sam
And then the popcorn meter rating 50,000 plus is 94%.
Fuhad
It's sheep detective.
Sam
No, that's your whiplash.
Fuhad
Nice.
Sam
Let's see about the sheep.
James
It's gotta be like 10 and 4.
Fuhad
Yeah, I'm saying there's 11 reviews on there.
Sam
Oh, it's actually up to 94. Oh, 95%. Now, this is impossible. 44 reviews only, though. So it's got 250 more to go, and we'll see where we. Where we end up.
Fuhad
Okay, this doesn't make any sense.
Sam
This is 95.
James
95%.
Sam
I'm telling you, all star cast.
Fuhad
It's a British movie.
Sam
I'm assuming they sound British.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like a British movie.
James
It does sound like a. The Sheep Detective.
Fuhad
It's a British movie.
James
Quintessential British movie.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
You're saying the US Aren't signing that off? They're not signing that off. I'll tell you that for free.
Fuhad
All right. I'm not gonna watch it in theaters, but I will.
Sam
It's a plane movie for you.
Fuhad
Oh, if it's on the plane, I'll
James
watch it on the way home.
Fuhad
Okay, I'll let you know my thoughts.
Sam
Okay, thank you.
Fuhad
Okay, cool.
James
You let me know on the pod.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah.
James
I'll tell you, watching that. The Sheep Detective.
Fuhad
I. I hate CGI talking animals.
Sam
Really?
Fuhad
I can't stand it.
Sam
Really? God, what's another one that's out there? Lion King live action. You weren't about.
Fuhad
It wasn't too bad, but I knew what I was signing up for. Okay, More like very true. I can't stand. Babe, Babe. Yeah.
Sam
Oh, that's iconic.
Fuhad
I know it's iconic. I can't stand that movie. You know, one of my. Do you know what my least favorite movie is of all time? Probably Chicken Run. Oh, wow.
James
That's the Throwback.
Fuhad
The worst movie ever.
James
What a throwback.
Sam
Wow.
Fuhad
I don't know why I hate it so much. I just hate it.
James
It's the same animation as Wallace and Gromy. Wallace and Grommy. Yeah.
Fuhad
That Clay. Clay Shit.
Sam
Stop motion.
Fuhad
Yeah, that's it.
Sam
It's so impressive, though. Yeah. I don't think I mess with the chicken.
Fuhad
Okay, cool. That's good to know.
Sam
No top comment on the wedding one. You're the asshole overall vote.
Fuhad
Oh, yeah, you're the asshole. No brainer.
Sam
Are you fudgeing serious? Insulting the bride.
Fuhad
Just.
Sam
Are you fucking serious? Insulting the bride in your speech at her fucking wedding? The most obvious asshole behavior I've ever seen. And if you were my sibling, our relationship would never be the same. Disgusting, disgraceful behavior.
Fuhad
Yeah, he's a jerk.
James
He wants to be alienated. Boy.
Fuhad
Yeah, he's a top jerk.
James
Yeah, that's peak.
Sam
Someone replies to that and says, my first husband negged me in our wedding speech. Mildly enough. Like, he said something about how he always hoped to make me happy because Sweeper's business is, as you know, universal. What a surprise that that marriage was over in 18 months. And I kind of dated my loss of faith in him to the moment he couldn't bring himself not to insult me at our wedding. And someone goes, sorry, I think that went over my head. Could you explain what this means as an insult?
Fuhad
Yes, I. I took the words out of my mouth.
Sam
I've never heard that Sweeper's happiness is, as, you know, universal. And someone responds, the implication is that she isn't happy. She makes everyone else miserable, so you'd better make her happy, because it sucks when she isn't. It's a fairly common sexist trope and definitely not something you want to hear at your wedding.
Fuhad
Oh, interesting.
Sam
The user's name is, like, Sweeper, so I think that's why they were. So it'd be like. It'd be like me going at my wedding to my husband, being like, justin's happiness is, as you know, universal. Which still, like, kind of lost on me, to be honest. It would have gone over my head in a speech, but I'd probably see
Fuhad
it as a compliment if my bride said that to me on my wedding day. I'd be like, oh, that's sweet.
James
Oh, safe.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
And Then everyone else like, oh, what a bitch.
James
Yeah. I couldn't smile. I didn't hear in the crowd.
Fuhad
No, no.
James
I'm like, what's happened?
Fuhad
Weddings are stressful overall.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Were you stressed at your wedding?
Sam
No.
Fuhad
Really?
Sam
No.
James
You're just happy. Happy?
Sam
Yeah. Dina was there. I don't think I was stressed. Everyone kept trying to, Like, I think I got stressed by people. The only time was people being like, are you okay? Do you need anything? Are you okay? And it was constant to the point where I was like, should I not be okay?
James
Yeah, Like.
Sam
And it was one, like, person. I was just like, I need someone to, like, get him away from me. Because, like, I took my beta blocker. I'm chilling. Like, I'm having so much fun. I go, no, no. It was like, stuff went wrong. Like, you just have to roll with the punches and, like, have a blast.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Nice.
Sam
But I had a camel.
Fuhad
A camel at your wedding?
Sam
Yeah.
James
Interesting.
Fuhad
Why?
Sam
I just wanted a camel. I wanted something different. No, just camel.
James
Just.
Sam
I wanted a camel. There.
Fuhad
Nice.
James
So how did that play out in the wedding?
Sam
I got married on my family's farm.
James
Okay.
Sam
So there was room for the camel.
James
That's more. Okay.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
And beer donkeys. Magician.
Fuhad
What's a beer donkey?
Sam
A little donkey that walks around delivering beer.
James
This sheep detective thing is making more sense.
Fuhad
Yeah. This is really. I don't know.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Okay. Cool, cool, cool.
Sam
It fits now.
Fuhad
Okay. Context.
James
Yeah.
Sam
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Sam
Okay, moving on to this next one. You have started a new segment on your show called Daddy Fantasy.
James
Oh, yes, I am.
Fuhad
I was thinking. What's that? Yes, yes, I have.
Sam
It's a hit.
Fuhad
I'm glad. Yeah.
Sam
Yeah. My assistant Dina is obsessed with it. She actually told me you guys are doing it.
Fuhad
Meghan's idea. Yeah.
Sam
Yeah. And I know. I said thanks to Megan because you read 4th Wing, which I just finished all three. I read all three of them in five days.
Fuhad
Really?
James
Damn.
Sam
Yeah. I was so hooked.
Fuhad
Yeah. Fantastic.
Sam
And now I'm like, okay, but you get the Romantasy fantasy book genres. You guys understand it. Okay, cool. What's your favorite so far?
Fuhad
Out of all of them?
Sam
Yeah. That you've gotten into?
Fuhad
I would say my favorite so far was probably, actually. Was probably. What did we.
James
What did we just finish the third one.
Sam
Have you started now too?
James
Because I remember, I listen.
Sam
Okay, you listen to his recaps. Because I was like. I think you said in the Fourth Wing one I watched. You're like, yeah, I actually. I kind of want to read it now. Are you considering.
Fuhad
Yeah. You listen to force or you just
James
want to watch it as the show Audible. So I've listened to 4th Wing. I've done the second. I'm halfway through the second book. Can't remember what it's called.
Sam
Okay.
James
And I've listened to the first two of Acotar. Acotar.
Sam
Acotar's been a little bit harder for
Fuhad
me to get into the first Acotar book I thought was boring.
Sam
That's where I'm at.
Fuhad
Boring. The first. First bit of Acotar, I was like, damn, this is amazing. And then I was hooked.
James
When you first did the first episode of Acotar book one, I was hooked.
Fuhad
Yeah, I was amazing. Yeah. But boring. I actually think this one, I just. I've just finished the third one, Wings and Ruin, maybe.
James
I think so. Yeah.
Fuhad
Wings and Ruin. The best. I think Wings of Ruin is actually my favorite so far. Of all of the fantasy battle rappers. There was. There was a lot going On.
Sam
Yeah, out of all of them. Okay. Okay, cool. So you thoroughly understand them. So you'll have a good take on this next one.
Fuhad
Fun.
Sam
This is coming from R. Relationship advice and it's titled My 35 Female Husband. 35 male, asked me to stop reading romance novels.
Fuhad
Okay.
James
Sounds like a hater.
Fuhad
He does sound like. I'm intrigued. Okay.
Sam
My husband, 35 male, of 11 years, asked me, 35 female, to stop reading romance novels. He said that he doesn't like that. He's not the one turning me on. He hasn't said this in so many words, but essentially he thinks it's cheating.
James
Okay.
Sam
The thing is, he was just diagnosed with a porn addiction.
James
Okay. Interesting diagnosis.
Fuhad
Diagnosed is not insane, by the way. Who goes to get diagnosed for. Where do you get diagnosed for that?
James
I'm not stepping into that building.
Fuhad
You can't fucking make me. I'd rather just say I am. I'd rather just say I am.
James
Put me on a notice board. Yeah. Yes. I love sex and I love porn.
Fuhad
That's it?
James
Yeah, that's it.
Fuhad
It's over. I'm not going to. I'm not going to get an official diagnosis. Let's just say I am and leave it there.
Sam
Well, he has had erectile dysfunction due to his over consumption of porn.
Fuhad
Okay, I didn't know that was a thing. It is a thing.
Sam
And gorilla grip masturbation techniques.
Fuhad
Sorry, what?
James
Yeah.
Sam
What, you've never heard of death grip syndrome?
Fuhad
No. What's that?
Sam
You have to squeeze until it's like about to pop for you to come to get?
Fuhad
No.
Sam
Gorilla grip or death grip syndrome?
Fuhad
Death grip.
James
That's how much he's fapped.
Fuhad
Yeah, he's. He's beat his dick that much? Okay, fair. I. I would go see someone for that. I'm not going to lie to you.
James
Yeah, I would be mortified.
Fuhad
Yeah, 100%.
Sam
He hasn't been able to finish P and V sex since we got pregnant with our kids five years ago.
James
Okay.
Sam
The last year or so he hasn't been able to get or stay hard without porn and a tight hand. I had my fucking.
James
You're a great reader.
Fuhad
Yeah, you really are.
Sam
I had HG when I was pregnant. The one and only time we tried to have sex, I vomited on him. We have had very little bedroom time since. I finally convinced him to see a doctor about this issue because he has been so incredibly depressed. He was diagnosed only a week ago and will have his first therapy visit in two weeks. Last year I started going to a monthly book Club. I normally read high fantasy books, but this club is for fantasy romance books. I started going to this book club as my own means of socializing. I have a difficult time making friendships because I have autism. Only so much energy to spend on people outside of my family. This once monthly book club has been amazing because it's a scheduled two hours. I have loved feeling like I belong and actually contributing to discussions. I look forward to seeing my friends and I feel like my mental health has really improved because of it. Since starting going to this book club, my libido has increased steeply. I always turn to my husband, but he is frequently unable to provide what I need with his ed. When things don't work out with him, I lose my interest in chasing an orgasm. We both end up feeling rejected and dejected.
Fuhad
Oh my God.
Sam
Today he asked me to stop reading romance novels altogether. After writing this out, I can now see that he's likely feeling a lot of pressure from me. I don't want to lose my friendships. I also don't want my husband to feel inadequate or like I don't care about his emotional needs. I'm trying to figure out a reasonable and rational way I can keep my once monthly socializing with these friends while respecting the current needs of my husband. He has not stopped or even slowed down his porn consumption or masturbation. Since his therapy session isn't for two weeks, we don't have anything to go
Fuhad
off of banging them out up until he's got two weeks to really smash these out. Okay, I get it.
Sam
I'm feeling a little lost on the best course of action for the both of us. What do you think is reasonable going forward?
Fuhad
Right?
James
What a relationship.
Fuhad
Fascinating. That really is juicy. What I'd give to be the therapist in this situation.
James
I'll be foaming.
Fuhad
Both of you getting it?
James
Yeah, I'll be foaming.
Fuhad
Let's hatch this out. All right. So, homeboy. I can understand his perspective. He's. He's.
James
He's down and out.
Fuhad
He's clutching at the wrong straws. However, for one, you can't compete with a 700-year-old high Fae. You just can't.
James
You can't.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
James
Wings are wings.
Fuhad
With shadow magic.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
It's not possible.
Sam
Dragons and dragons.
Fuhad
Dragons and all. And they fuck that wing.
James
They fuck and they fight.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
He doesn't neither.
Fuhad
He just squeezes his dick until he's about to pop. That's the best he can provide. I can understand how he feels. It's a horrible truth. But in his mind. Yeah. The more she reads, the hornier she gets, which she has to just consistently get reminded that he has ed.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
And then he just feels more embarrassed. So in his mind, he's like, well, if you just stop reading it, then you'll stop trying to me, and then you'll stop being reminded that I have a porn addiction and can't get hard for you until I can start doing these therapy sessions and then we can get into it. But for the next fortnight, I need you to put the books away.
Sam
But what about him? Not.
James
That's unfair.
Sam
Stopping.
Fuhad
Oh, yeah, that's.
James
That's where the.
Sam
Cool.
Fuhad
Yeah. That's why in his mind, he's like, yeah, but I'm sick.
Sam
Yeah.
James
So I need this.
Fuhad
Yeah. Yeah.
James
I need this so I can wake up tomorrow. I need something to look forward to.
Sam
Yeah.
James
So you can't stop my ED or you can't stop my porn addict?
Fuhad
This has been me my whole life. You just started these books. Facts.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
You just started the book.
James
It's been two months. It's been 12 years for me. I'm an addict. Have you seen my forearm?
Fuhad
My dick is black and blue. It's not as easy.
Sam
Honestly, I'm surprised it's not.
Fuhad
It must be a mess down there.
James
It must be death grip syndrome syndrome.
Fuhad
I've never heard of that.
Sam
Yeah.
James
Why does she vomit on him?
Fuhad
Oh, yeah. What was that about? Cause I was gonna ask about that. What is that?
Sam
G is hyperemesis gravidarum. It's this thing that can happen when you become pregnant where you just have morning sickness, intense vomiting. The entire pregnancy, it's just constant.
James
I see.
Sam
So she had that HG and then they tried to be intimate and she accidentally threw up on him.
Fuhad
That was the last time they actually had sex.
Sam
I'm pretty sure by the sounds of it. Yeah.
Fuhad
This whole thing is a mess.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
We. We really need to get back to ground zero.
James
I find it. Oh, I was gonna say I find it difficult that she didn't know he had a porn addiction early, but obviously he would hide it. I would hide. If I had a porn addiction, 110% I'd hide. So it's like. It's hard for. No pun intended. But it's hard for him to come out with that kind of information to anyone, let alone your partner.
Sam
Yeah.
James
And then a therapist on top of that.
Sam
I know. I wish we had, like, a phone, a sex therapist button right now, because I'm like. I just feel like I've had so many questions about the way guys look at porn lately, where I'm like, do guys realize that. That porn isn't real?
James
Is that a genuine question for us?
Sam
Yeah. Do you think the average guy watches porn and is like, that's not acting? Like, that's real?
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. 100. It's hard for a guy to conceptualize the acting part.
Sam
Okay.
James
Because it's like they're seeing it happen.
Fuhad
Yeah. Especially for a guy. Because we have to remember as well. In order for a guy to engage in sex, he has to get hard. So if I'm watching porn and the guy is hard, my mind is like, what are you acting? He's not. He's not acting.
James
They find the middle.
Fuhad
He wants to be there because otherwise he just wouldn't be able to get hard. Especially if you're watching it from, like, 13, 14.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
That just is instilled in your brain.
James
Yeah.
Sam
So crazy.
Fuhad
So I can see that they probably do think, like, yeah, it's real. To an extent.
Sam
To an extent. You hope. I mean, you hope. But like, we come across on Reddit all the time with, like, all of these, like, porn. Like, my boyfriend's hiding porn for me. Or like, the new one is my boyfriend is talking to an AI girl.
James
That's ridiculous.
Sam
And having a relationship sexually with AI, that's ridiculous.
James
I would love to know the tea, but that's ridiculous.
Sam
No, that's like, that's where we're getting. I just did on episode, and it's like, she found out her boyfriend is sexting AI.
Fuhad
Okay, what the hell is going on?
Sam
And so it's like, where, like, where's the line?
Fuhad
That's a desperate need for, I don't know, affection then I guess that sounds like a different beast altogether.
Sam
I know.
Fuhad
Texting.
Sam
Sexting. Yeah.
Fuhad
Sexting.
Sam
Texting. Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. I don't know about that one.
Sam
I know. And is it cheating or is it not cheating?
Fuhad
Since it's AI, it's 100% in the same family.
James
Yes. Same realm. Yeah.
Sam
Yeah. I mean, it's like an emotional affair in a sense.
James
I don't think Homegirl. Cause he said he feels like she's cheating on him with these book things.
Fuhad
Oh, yeah.
James
That's crazy. That's ridiculous.
Fuhad
That's crazy. He needs to grow up.
James
Yeah.
Sam
He essentially thinks it's cheating.
James
No, he's.
Fuhad
I feel like he is lashing out with that one. I think he's just saying stuff. I don't think he believes that the book club.
Sam
You're cheating. What do you Think the character's gonna jump off the page?
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
And fuck me.
James
She wishes.
Fuhad
Yeah. Literally wishes. Yeah.
Sam
Because, I mean, it'd be better
Fuhad
that whole.
James
I feel sorry for both of them.
Fuhad
I feel miserable for both of them. That's so horrible.
Sam
Top comment on this one. Brings up a really good point, though. Ask him if he was thinking of you and your needs every time he watched another woman have sex on screen.
Fuhad
Yeah, of course. Ooh.
Sam
Because it's like, in his head, he's like, you're envisioning yourself with these characters. That's what's doing it for you. Well, what about when you watch porn? Are you putting my face on them? Like, are you thinking of me?
Fuhad
That's interesting. But also, is he putting himself in that scenario with the porn also, though? Because, again.
James
Oh, easy. Of just a voyeur.
Fuhad
Yeah. That's interesting, actually, because when I've watched porn, I don't imagine I'm there, the girl. It's just a visual stimulus watching it. Yeah. Fun fact. I haven't watched porn this year.
James
Well played.
Fuhad
I'm over it, dude. Well played.
Sam
That's pretty good.
Fuhad
I'm over it.
Sam
Yeah. We're almost halfway through.
Fuhad
Yeah. And the thing is, there's just, like. I'm just. I think. I don't know.
Sam
You're good.
Fuhad
I'm just over it. It's just, like, boring.
Sam
As a guy reading the Romantasy fantasy books, do you kind of have a concept, like, now to, like, kind of combat what he's saying where it's like, there's no way it's cheating? Like, it's just so. Because, like, I tried to describe it to my husband where he's like. Because I, you know, read Fourth Wing, and I'm like, oh, my God, this book is so good. He came home from a trip, and I ignored him for, like, two days because I was like, let me just finish my book first. But, like, he obviously isn't threatened by it. But trying to explain what these books do, it's like, you just get lost in the world. But I'm not wishing I was that character. You know what I mean?
Fuhad
I understand entirely. I also think I have, like, a different perspective because as I'm reading
Sam
will
Fuhad
be, like, Violet speaking. But, like, I can't identify as Violet.
Sam
Exactly.
Fuhad
So because I'm, like, a straight guy, so, like, hearing a girl talk about, like, her experience in, like, banging her boyfriend or whatever, I'm just like, nice, nice, decent. So it's. I can't. But I'm not there, like, what's he gonna do next? What is he gonna do next? Yeah, so again, I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. But yeah, again, if you're just like, I'm just. I'm just happy for the characters when they get after it. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy and I get absorbed in the, like, turned on ness of the environment of the storytelling. But yeah, again, I'm not in that scenario, so I can see. I can definitely be like, the dude just needs to grow up.
Sam
I know. I did have a story that I found recently, though, where the person is obsessed with the romantasy fantasy books and accidentally said the character's name during sex.
Fuhad
That's my line. Yeah, no, we can't come back from there.
Sam
Like, then you're kind of going, we can't get back.
James
It's past fantasy now.
Fuhad
Yeah, it really has jumped off the page. Yeah.
James
Wow.
Fuhad
We can't come back from that.
Sam
But what about role playing? Like, if your partner knew up front and then committed to the bit with you, then I'm like, okay, fair game.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Role playing for me again is I. I would be down with the role playing if she asked me to be Zayden, for example. I can only be Zayden one time.
Sam
Okay.
Fuhad
I have to be Zaden one time. Then I need to be flipping Tamlin one time, then I need to go and be Rhys another time. Like, we can't always be, like, be Zayden again. Zayden again. I'm gonna call you Zayden again. Yeah, yeah, you're Zayden.
Sam
It's like, no, because then it feels like, no, you're.
James
You're trying to be an objective.
Fuhad
You just want to fuck someone else.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
You want me to pretend to be him, but role playing in general, like, cool, great. But I'm not going to be the character for you every time.
Sam
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. One and done. That's like, fair. It's like, we tried it, but, like, I'm not taking on this Persona permanently.
Fuhad
Yeah. Literally. So you can say Zaden in bed every night. That's not happening.
Sam
No.
James
I would lose interest immediately as soon as I hear Zayden. I'm tapped out. I'm tapped out.
Sam
Has anyone accidentally said wrong name with either?
James
Impossible.
Fuhad
No.
Sam
Really?
Fuhad
No. I would never. I would never forgive her.
James
Straight, simple. I've never.
Fuhad
Because where are you right now?
James
You're.
Fuhad
Yeah, where are you? Because you're not here.
James
Yeah, I'm inside you.
Fuhad
When thinking of him, you're not Present with me. No, that's a nightmare. That's my worst. I can't think of anything worse than that.
Sam
I've done it before.
Fuhad
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Sam
To my husband. When we first started dating, I was so drunk, I like literally, I didn't. Yeah, just wrong name slipped out.
Fuhad
Sorry, who did you say?
Sam
Like one of my guy friends names?
Fuhad
No, no. You're joking.
James
Do you like him? Did you like him?
Sam
No, no, like purely friend. From the jump of meeting him and I didn't remember it. Like I. He told me and then I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like I had no idea the next day. So I'm like, okay, well, like I'm trying to rationalize why I would said that, but.
Fuhad
Yeah, again, your husband's a real man. Yeah, yeah, no, that would break my heart.
Sam
I know. He's a good one. Have you ever gotten like a hey dude message on Instagram or anything?
Fuhad
No, I haven't and I can't.
Sam
That when you see that, like, hey girl, have you had it before? Yeah. Yeah. And you, you just feel your stomach just.
Fuhad
No, no, no. Blood would run cold.
James
Oh my go.
Sam
You just like immediately clammy. Like you're nauseous. You're like, what the. Yeah, he was at my house last night.
Fuhad
Oh, those guys are the worst, dude.
Sam
I'm just like, oh my God.
Fuhad
No, I can't. I can't receive one of those. Yeah, I know. Once this comes out, all I'm gonna get. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James
Facts.
Fuhad
All I'm gonna get is those. No, I can't, I can't. I just can't. I just can't.
Sam
It's so crazy. If you're listening and you found out that your partner was cheating on you some crazy way, like your dog found her underwear. Whatever it is, like, please put it in the comments because I know some of you out there have definitely Apple Watch, I feel like is becoming more common.
Fuhad
Like, couldn't be betrayed by my Apple Watch.
Sam
Like something about like, oh, he closed his rings at like 2am and by like vigorous activity. Like something like that. Like. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's out there.
Fuhad
Really? Okay. Wow. There's different methods to it.
Sam
Drop it in the comments.
Fuhad
Activity.
James
Yeah, her heart must have been beating.
Fuhad
Can you imagine? Can you? Okay, check this. Imagine you're happily married.
James
I think it's linked as well, isn't it?
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Imagine you're happily, happily married and then you coincidentally see your wife checking her like aura ring results. And at 2am There's a spike in activity while you were out of town for work. 2am There's a huge spike.
James
I'm confronting her. I don't know what I'm saying, though, because it's like.
Sam
It feels crazy. Like.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
Like going to someone and being like, your aura. Ring has some activity. Like, you would feel nice.
James
I feel, like, embarrassing. Yeah. I'm stupid. Like.
Fuhad
Yeah. I should make you feel stupid.
James
She will. She will. Yeah. And that would annoy me even more.
Fuhad
Yeah. But we both know what this is.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. Oh, that's. That's an absolute nightmare. My biggest fear. No, thanks.
Sam
Yeah. That's bad. A lot of comments on this one. People just asking, like, clarifying questions. Why does sex have to stop when your husband's erection stops? Are his hands and his mouth working?
Fuhad
Valid. That's. I forgot that came to my mind as we were reading, actually.
Sam
Really?
Fuhad
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam
Why is he still.
James
Where's the aural at, man?
Fuhad
Selfish. Yeah. I would think that if I had Ed, that would be, like, my. What would make me feel super. Because obviously this is like a. Someone's actually asked me this when they were like, oh, how would I want. If I had Ed? How would I want to be addressed about it? One thing that I would really, really, really prefer is if she was very selfish with her nuts and was just like, okay, cool. Your dick doesn't work, but your mouth and your hands do. So, like, what are you doing about it?
James
Okay.
Fuhad
That would set me at so much ease.
Sam
Cause the pressure's off.
Fuhad
Yeah, the pressure's off. And we can draw attention away from. And the more attention we bring to this thing, the worse it's just gonna get.
James
Question.
Fuhad
Come on.
James
Obviously not obviously, but you have Ed in this situation.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Yeah. You're pleasing your girl.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Mouth, fingers all the way. Are you taking your boxes off
Fuhad
to just see? Because naturally. Naturally. Naturally. You would. Yeah, I would like to hope so. I'm being honest. I would like to hope so. Wishful thinking, maybe, but I would like to hope so, though. To just say they're soft, but you have to get comfortable.
James
Yeah, you do.
Fuhad
Which is who I am right now. Yeah. Fair. I have to get comfortable with it. And that's. That's the best way. Like exposure therapy, dude. If I keep the boxes on, then
James
it's just like, you're clearly hiding something.
Fuhad
Yeah, you're clearly hiding something. I have a mental block knowing that, like, I'm still scared to see. I might as well just get naked and be like, I'm Just soft, and that's who I am.
James
Okay, cool.
Fuhad
I'm a soft guy. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Sam
Yeah. It could help, too, taking him off with like. Okay, I'm gonna really get into the bit.
Fuhad
I'm going to.
Sam
Maybe it would encourage something.
Fuhad
Yeah. Hopeful.
James
Imagine. Imagine you get a boner that day as well. Happiest day of your life.
Fuhad
Oh, you would. I wouldn't act on the first boner, though.
James
Oh, you couldn't.
Fuhad
I'm too scared I'm going to lose it.
James
That's like a. That's like a pump fake.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
James
It's a hesi.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
No, no, no, because you.
James
As soon as you slide it in,
Fuhad
here's a tease again. As soon as. As soon as he knows I've acknowledged him, he's going to go away. Because that's all you're going to be thinking about. Yeah, that's all I think about. Oh, my God. Hard, hard. Lose it.
James
And. Oh, then you got to focus.
Fuhad
And then she's going to go through things again. It'd be. Yeah, I'm just mouth and fingers until I surprise a bit harder. Chaos.
Sam
Yeah. Once that therapy kicks in. So we do get, like an edit slash update from OP I want to thank everyone for their support. There are some points that I wanted to address. First, he obviously does have hands and a mouth. I just feel immediately turned off if he's not also, obviously visibly enthusiastic about performing those activities.
James
Okay. He's a selfish lover.
Sam
Also, at the risk of sounding too vulgar, I usually end up with a yeast or BV infection after he uses his mouth or hands.
James
What?
Sam
So I avoid it.
James
Stop it.
Sam
Usually bacterial vaginosis. Yeah. Or yeast infection, which I'm like, what? What?
Fuhad
Rose just got dirty. Dirty hands and mouth. Do you know how embarrassed I would be if I went down on my girl and she was like, now I've got bv. So now what, with your disgusting mouth.
James
He sounds like such a hot mess. No wonder he's got a porn addiction. That's his only release. Because he's dirty through and through. Usually.
Fuhad
Usually after the second time. Stop. Stop.
James
You're hurting me down there.
Fuhad
Stop. Bro.
James
Go see someone.
Fuhad
That's.
Sam
I know well. And so there's like, a lot of conversation happening right now with bv.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. Sorry. A lot of conversation around bv.
Sam
Yeah. Where a lot of people are like, yeah, every time I have sex with this guy, I get BV again.
Fuhad
You're tapped in, by the.
James
The way.
Sam
Yeah, well, like, I have a. I have A friend here who was literally like, every single time she'd get treated for bv, and they kept coming back, and she'd get treated again, and then it would come back, and she finally put it together that this guy. Every time she would have sex with her guy, it would come back. And so while it's not classified as a STD right now, there's research that increasingly shows it is sexually associated and can be transmitted between partners. And so studies are showing that by treating male partners, it can significantly reduce occurrence in women.
Fuhad
How do you treat for dudes?
Sam
I'm pretty sure it's just antibiotics.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. Really interesting antibiotics.
James
Interesting?
Fuhad
I thought it was just, like, dirty dick. Yeah.
Sam
Prescription antibiotics. It can be a pill, gel, cream, or suppository.
Fuhad
Suppository is crazy.
James
That is crazy. Pop me the pill. Why is that even an option?
Fuhad
Just give me the pill.
Sam
No.
Fuhad
Why is that an option?
Sam
Well, if you think about a suppository, it's like a little pill, and then you just shoot it up like you would a tampon almost. It's like the same applicator.
James
Oh, no.
Fuhad
For a girl? Yeah.
James
100%.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
For guys.
Sam
Yeah. You know, you'd have to shove it up there.
Fuhad
Why is that option? I'll just take the pill.
Sam
I mean, there's gel, too.
Fuhad
Gel?
Sam
Yeah, gel.
Fuhad
Oh, okay.
Sam
Gel and cream pills on.
Fuhad
That would make me so embarrassed.
James
It would. I'd pop the pillow. But anyway.
Sam
Yeah, yeah, but that's what they add. And then she does go on to say, second, we are both trying to navigate things right now. He started meds, and he wasn't given on any direction on how to stop these problematic activities. He tried to stop the first few days, but he literally stayed awake for 40 hours. It's consuming him. I honestly feel like this is.
James
Hang on, hang on. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Fuhad
I'm so sorry. What's happening?
James
I'm so sorry.
Sam
Porn addiction to this.
James
He was watching porn for 40 hours?
Sam
No, he, like, tried to stop for a few days.
James
Oh, and kept him on the podcast.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. Can you imag. I can
James
bab. I can't sleep.
Fuhad
I need bab. I can't sleep. That's all I'm thinking about. 40 hours.
Sam
Couldn't sleep.
Fuhad
Put me in a hospital. I'm not leaving the hospital.
James
Do they have kids?
Fuhad
Yeah, they did. She's pregnant.
Sam
Had our kid five years ago. Just one kid, by the sound of it.
Fuhad
I would have left if you were her.
James
Yes. So long ago.
Sam
She's very understanding. Because she does go on to say, I honestly feel like this isn't just a behavioral addiction. He needs support, love, and acceptance.
James
She's a real one.
Sam
I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not pissed and hurt by it, but people who aren't in this situation can't truly appreciate the nuances to this kind of addiction. I'm not going to up and leave him. We are a family, and I'm going to exhaust all of our options before leaving.
Fuhad
Fair enough.
James
I rate her.
Fuhad
Yes. Same.
James
That's a trooper.
Sam
Die.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Literally my time. I'm figuring out.
James
I'm gone 40 hours. I couldn't see that. That would be the straw that breaks me.
Sam
I love a nap. Like, to. I'm like four.
Fuhad
Yeah. He can't sleep, bro.
Sam
He can't work. No. This is genuinely clinical. I think he should actually go to an inpatient rehab facility.
Fuhad
Yeah. 100%.
Sam
I don't think monitoring and handling this at home is going to do it.
James
Seven days, seven nights in one of these strap things.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
And just figure it out.
Sam
Or some mitts, like, duct tape, oven mitts.
Fuhad
Like, that's so scary.
Sam
That's tough.
Fuhad
Yeah. I'm checking myself into rehab. 100.
Sam
Yeah.
James
I don't think you would, though, Fuhad. I don't think you would sleep for
Fuhad
two fucking days because I need porn.
James
I don't think you would, though, James, like. Because I think two days. I appreciate. I understand what you're saying, but I've heard you now. Hear me.
Fuhad
I'm listening.
James
I genuinely think the blockage would be. Or the barrier would be you having to tell whoever at the front desk why you want to be here. I think that would stop you from admitting yourself.
Fuhad
Yeah, I would just tell my wife to do it for me. I need you to call these, man. Tell them that I'm checking in. Tell them why I'm checking in. Cool.
James
Yeah, cool.
Fuhad
And then just. Let's be discreet about it. Just put me in my room. And then let's not. And when we are doing the. Hi, my name's James and I'm an addict. We don't need to. We don't need to, like, fine. Tooth comb it. We're all addicts here. Yeah.
James
That's why we're here, aren't it?
Fuhad
Yeah. You don't need to know that.
James
We're pas.
Fuhad
The gorilla grip. Something. Something like, dude, like, whatever.
Sam
Do you feel like that's because it's something that's shameful. And is that because to be fair, I mean, a Lot of, like, males identities is, like, tied to sex and performance.
Fuhad
Yeah. I would struggle when it's. When it's like. When it's the talking time. I would need to hear some horror stories for me to have the confidence, feel comfortable to be like, I haven't fucked my wife in God knows how long, and I can't come unless I squeeze all the blood out my dick. And I tried to go cold turkey from porn, and I didn't sleep for two days.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
And now I'm jealous of her fictional fairy characters that she reads in her local book club. And I actually had the audacity to ask her to quit the book club because I just can't compete with the fictional characters whilst I. And the two weeks before I started therapy. You guys have no idea how much
James
fun I watched, even though I'm in the same PA Meeting as you.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
I don't think you understand how much I'll be holding back a laugh. Laughing. Okay. Laughing's a hot take. I think it would be. I think it'll be the sheer shock factor of you being so nonchalant of how easily you can just blurt these nudges out.
Fuhad
And I'd be like, damn, bro. I hear it because I actually.
James
I also don't think it would be fair for you to move on or for, like, the person that's hosting the meeting. They have to stick with you all meeting.
Fuhad
They can't be. Okay, now you.
James
Now you like.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
There's too much information.
Fuhad
Yours is t. Yeah. Yeah.
James
And I need to know how it ends. Yeah.
Fuhad
But I'm not there to be judged. So if you laugh, I'm gonna tell home.
James
If I laugh, they'd have to kick me off. I'd have to go. I'd stop myself.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
But how I'd want to go is similar to you. Like, my wife or partner would have to be able to buy. I don't want to know the date they take me. I want them to just pull up to my yard.
Sam
Really? You want to be, like, kidnapped?
James
Yeah, just pull up to my yard, and my wife's already got an emergency bag packed.
Sam
Okay, it's time.
James
And then boom. Yeah, then I'll go.
Fuhad
You wouldn't want to just voluntarily drive there and check in? You want to be taken?
James
Yeah, I'll be. Just take me, bro.
Sam
I think it only works if you're ready for it, though.
James
And you need volunteer. No, but I think that would allow me to be like, okay, cool, it's go time. As opposed to thinking it's gonna happen on Sunday, and me dreading. And it's Wednesday. I know it's happened on a Sunday. I don't think I would stop watching porn from Wednesday to Sunday. Yeah. I think I would watch an excessive amount, because I know this is the last time I'm getting it, which is
Sam
kind of what he was doing.
James
He's like, I know.
Sam
I have two weeks until my appointment, so, like, I'm gonna go home.
James
It's been a roller coaster for him.
Fuhad
Wow.
James
His category list must be intense.
Fuhad
Yeah. I was gonna say he must have run out.
James
He must have exhausted everything.
Fuhad
I don't know what kind of pony watches.
Sam
And that's also like, what are you watching? Because there's levels, and if you're at a level I don't like, I hope
James
they've had that conversation.
Fuhad
I know I would lie.
James
Yeah. I was gonna say he's probably lied.
Fuhad
Yeah. Amateur.
James
Yeah.
Sam
Yeah. Because I don't think she's like, I wouldn't want to watch that.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
Like, it's already so hurtful. I'm not gonna watch you. And the only thing that you're getting off on, Op does add. She is gonna put some boundaries down. I told him that I will be continuing to read one book a month, and I will be attending the book club.
James
Good for her.
Sam
I will not initiate sex again until at a time that we all him. Me, therapist, feel he is comfortable having healthy sex again.
Fuhad
See that? I don't like that bit.
James
As the man or the girl?
Fuhad
As the man, I can understand the necessity for that. That adds so much pressure, it's not even funny.
James
It does add pressure.
Fuhad
The day we're in that therapy session, and the therapist like, okay, James, I actually think it's a healthy time for you guys to try.
James
My dick would be the limpest.
Sam
Well, it doesn't have to be that day, but, like, at least you then get the clear.
James
Anytime she, like, touches me, I was like, oh. Oh, my God. She's initiating.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
That's all I'd be thinking about.
Fuhad
Rubbing my shoulders, whatever. Oh, my God.
James
Oh, my God.
Fuhad
Please, please, please. If I can't get hard, I'm just gonna cry.
James
Yeah.
Sam
Yeah. I'm curious if there's any therapists out there that would chime in and be like, here's how the right way to go about it would be. So there isn't that pressure. So it feels spontaneous and organic.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
And, yeah, God willing, because that is stressful.
Sam
Op says, I won't hide what I'm doing. I'm doing something that's healthy for me and I shouldn't suffer for it. He was naturally pretty upset to hear this. I think you guys are right, that he's projecting, trying to grasp some control in the situation by making us equal in his eyes. I was too deep in it to see what was rational. Now that I can see it, I'm not budging. Luckily, I have the autism to help me with that. Thank you for helping me see what's healthy.
James
Nice.
Fuhad
Fair.
James
Good for her, Mom.
Fuhad
Fair.
James
Hear. My book is crazy.
Fuhad
It is. Can I play devil's advocate? This is not my belief system. Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
I would also be threatened by the double down of I'm not stopping reading these fantasy books. Because then in my mind I'm like,
James
so what is it?
Fuhad
Yeah, this is. This is. It's not about the reading anymore. It doesn't sound like it's about the reading. It's about the sex. And you deserve it because you're deprived. Yeah. But again, I would be concerned because she's so adamant about this is the type of book I'm going to be reading.
James
It's not just books in general.
Fuhad
Yeah. It's not just the reading or the club. It's the fucking steamy, hot fantasy books. That's what I want to read in his perspective, based on what he's going through. I would be like. I would be scared, thinking, okay, cool.
James
Cause it doesn't sound he's a real addict. Yeah.
Fuhad
Does it? Yeah.
Sam
See, I'm. No, that's what we'd be thinking.
James
Who's a real addict, me or you?
Fuhad
Stop.
Sam
See, for me, I feel like it's more about the club.
Fuhad
And by the way, she said it's about the club.
Sam
She did.
James
She did.
Fuhad
I just want us to read different genres in this club.
Sam
But that's not the club. Those aren't where her friends are at. They're not at the.
Fuhad
So it's a sex club.
Sam
The cookbook club.
Fuhad
So it's a sex club.
James
Who's a real Alex?
Sam
No. Bad.
James
No.
Fuhad
We're brain. Devil's advocate.
James
Main devil's ad.
Sam
The devil doesn't need an advocate.
Fuhad
Clever.
James
That is clever. Fuck it up.
Fuhad
Well played. I've never heard that one.
Sam
Really?
Fuhad
Deadass. Yeah.
Sam
Thank you so much for saying deadass.
Fuhad
Really?
Sam
Yeah.
James
Why?
Sam
Because I've been saying it for years and no one appreciates it. And so to hear it come out of someone else's mouth is just very nice and refreshing.
Fuhad
Oh, nice.
James
Oh, wow.
Fuhad
Thank you very much. No one's ever appreciated me saying it.
James
We say dead us all the time.
Fuhad
Yeah, we say dead us a lot.
Sam
See, I'm in the wrong country. I could come hop across the board.
Fuhad
We'll be happy to have you.
Sam
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Fuhad
Yeah, we're good.
Sam
This next one is coming from my Good friend direct caterpillar77, my bestie on Reddit that finds all the good stories.
Fuhad
Oh nice.
Sam
Yeah, it's titled My husband wants me to make breakfast for his co workers three to four times a week before they go to work.
Fuhad
Oh my God. What? Okay.
Sam
We've been married for almost four months. My husband works a fairly lucrative office job and is a great help with the finances and bills for our house while I tackle a BA at college at the moment. For that I am very grateful and I love him very much and we are generally happy with the marriage. I however, about two months ago he asked me if I wouldn't mind preparing breakfast for him and a couple of coworkers a few times a week. Of course, I agreed because I know how rushed things can be in the mornings for some people, and I was glad to see my husband fraternizing with his colleagues. Also, we have a beautiful home and it's always nice to have people over for meals. I get along with his coworkers very well for the most part, which is a plus. This has been going on for two months and I didn't used to mind it much at first, but I feel that a couple of mornings a week has turned into nearly the entire week and it's too much for me. Getting up early and preparing eggs, bacon, multiple pots of coffee when there are more than just a couple of co workers over. And occasionally stuff like pancakes and French toast. I attend night classes several nights a week and I don't get a chance to sleep in as much as I would like to. How do I respectfully tell my husband to tone it down a little with these morning visits without hurting his or his coworker's feelings? I do not want to jeopardize his relationship with the people at work and don't want to push him or our visitors away. It has just become too much for me.
Fuhad
This reminds me of the episode of my wife and kids where Junior got got onto the basketball team and then all of his boys on the basketball team were just coming around his house and just murking the house and they were just using him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For all kinds of.
James
Yes, I remember now.
Fuhad
Sounds like homeboy's getting played by.
James
He is. I feel like this is. This is a hot take purely because she said he is lucrative if he is lucrative enough to finance his lifestyle. Nice house, all of that stuff. Get someone to cook for you a couple days a week. Don't use your wife that's cooking for multiple people every day. Almost every day. She also goes to school at night and then doesn't have enough sleep and still does everything else. It's like that's, that's beyond unfair.
Fuhad
Yeah. If it's so important, just go take the boys to a diner every morning. Like, why does it have to be in the house every day and your wife has to do ihop? Yeah.
James
Like they have everything we need.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah. If it's important for you to like feed your colleagues, take them to a diner. They probably feel more comfortable there than watching your wife slave you at 7 in the morning.
Sam
You would think. Op does have some comments. So people were asking how many people is this for? Typically? Like, is this just one or two? Or like, how. What's going on here? Op says about 20 people.
Fuhad
Shut the fuck up.
James
That's impossible.
Sam
But they show up at different times, so typically within groups of two to four co workers a time.
James
That's impossible.
Fuhad
This doesn't make any sense.
James
You're running a restaurant in my yard. That's impossible. That's impossible. 20 people?
Fuhad
What?
James
That would have happened if I'm the wife? That would have happened once and never again.
Fuhad
The thing is, this is not even his business. This is just his colleagues at work.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
This is not him like running like a whole business.
James
There's no money coming from this.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah.
Sam
What they're in the west coast of the United States, so somewhere on this side. Originally from New York. We moved here from my husband's job 13 months ago. It's just a job. He doesn't own the company, so it's not like he's doing this for his employees. These are coworkers. They do this because they live five to 10 minutes away from the office. Most of the coworkers have a commute, a long way to get to the office. Hence they carpool from their area, arriving here in one car.
James
Nah, bro.
Fuhad
This has spiraled.
James
Nah, bro.
Sam
Sometimes spiraled. Sometimes they take my husband with him, and other times he offers up his car and drives three to four coworkers to the office.
James
Nah, bro.
Fuhad
This guy's a doormat.
James
He is.
Sam
This is to avoid the parking fee.
James
This guy's an absolute doormat.
Fuhad
Wow.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
He needs to grow some balls and be like, guys, this is actually getting ridiculous.
Sam
Well, this is getting really weird too. So they can actually take 15 minute breaks throughout the day at their leisure. Some of these co workers are showing up to her house to pick up snacks and ciggies and then head back to the office.
Fuhad
What is going on? I told you, this is the Mike and Kids episode.
James
Yeah, they're taking the piss out of both of them. They're easy food.
Fuhad
Yeah, he's a joke.
Sam
At work, they're spending about $350 a week to feed the coworkers.
James
Okay, this is what I'm saying after day one. It's never happening again. It's never happened. 20 people on the first day.
Sam
I think it's accumulated to that. But like about 20 people is one of the comments.
Fuhad
So we're sending the memo out that this isn't happening anymore. This is. Okay, this sounds like one of those things where he's probably addressing thought in his head. This needs to stop. But the idea of having to tell 20 people you're not coming around anymore will significantly affect his status at work.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
And now he's probably thinking, I don't know what the to do. Yeah, he needs that. He needs an exit strategy. Or just move back to New York. Yeah, just move back out.
James
That's the exit. Yeah.
Sam
Versus confronting everyone and be like, hey, guys, we gotta. We gotta tone it down a little bit.
Fuhad
Pulling up for snacks in the middle of the day, That's a fucking piss take.
James
Who are you? To me?
Sam
Yeah, There's a comment that someone else mentions, but someone mentions that OP said that they show up and like tap on the window that's exactly how I envisioned it.
James
Let me in.
Sam
Let me in. Like, by tapping on the window service.
Fuhad
We've only got 15 minutes.
James
Yeah, come on.
Sam
We're the siggies.
Fuhad
I mean, Siggies treat it like a restaurant.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
It's peak Siggies and snacks. Hurry up. Fuck.
Sam
I'd go crazy.
James
I'd resent my husband.
Sam
Oh, so much resentment. Because she also says that she has to do all the dishes. He doesn't help with any of the dishes. So she's got pots, pans, plates, cups, everything she's doing.
Fuhad
This is happening four times a week.
James
No, no. Two months.
Fuhad
This is out of control.
James
That would have ruined my marriage.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Ruin my marriage.
Fuhad
Every single night I come home, I'll be terrified. I'll be terrified to face the version of my wife every single day. Yeah.
James
That would ruin my marriage.
Sam
So how do you get to stop? Like, do you just be like, hey, honey, done doing this for you?
James
Like, if I'm her.
Sam
Yeah. Do you compromise and say, let's cut it back to once a week? Like, how do you realistically proceed forward?
Fuhad
I'm shifting everyone to the closest diner.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
And for the next four weeks, I'm just paying. Okay, Paying. And then I'm gonna slowly, one day call a sick day. All the guys go to the diner. I'm not there to pay for it. Someone else is gonna have to pay for it. And that's just how we change the culture from there.
Sam
How you rolling?
Fuhad
Yeah. I think that's the best way to get out of this.
James
Yeah. If I'm. If I'm the wife, I'm just telling my husband after. After the first day, this is never happening again. Standard. I don't care who shows up at the door, there's not gonna be food.
Fuhad
The next person that taps this window, I promise.
James
Yeah, they're gonna hear that. They're gonna hear it. They're gonna hear it.
Fuhad
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Nah, don't. That's the first thing. Tell your boys if they tap this window again, I swear to God, they're
James
gonna hear that sawn off.
Fuhad
Yeah, they're gonna. Reg.
Sam
Why can't your husband prepare these breakfasts?
James
Also valid.
Fuhad
Clearly.
Sam
OP says, admittedly, I'm a better cook than him, and I never mind making meals for both of us in the mornings. Honestly, if it was just him and I, I could do it for the rest of my life. But it isn't just him, and I can't do it anymore. And he simply has no times in the morning. And he has to get ready to be at his office by 8am Then
James
he just wake up early. She does.
Sam
She.
James
She works. She goes to school at night, then has little sleep to then wake up to cook for multiple men. 20.
Fuhad
This is insane.
James
What are we talking about, bro?
Fuhad
Someone in the group also needs to address the weirdness of it. Yeah, like number 21 you'd hope would be like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah. What do you mean? We're going to Jeff's four times a week for breakfast. Doesn't make any sense.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Why?
James
What are their wives doing?
Fuhad
Yeah. And why aren't their wives being like, you're not going there.
Sam
Yeah.
James
You're not going there Again for another
Fuhad
woman to be cooking you breakfast. Who is she? What's so good about his fucking breakfast?
James
A lot of conversations aren't happening, clearly. No, this is a movie. This can't be real life. This can't be real life.
Fuhad
This is out of control.
Sam
So we do get an update.
James
Please.
Sam
We get an update. I want to thank you all for who gave me advice and sympathy in the original thread. I had mentioned several times that I was going to sit down with my husband this Saturday and have a stern talk, but I'm sure a lot of you will be pleased to know that it happened much sooner.
James
Nice.
Sam
I decided to stay home from night class on Wednesday night so that I could speak to him as soon as he arrived from work. He was very surprised to see me still in the house as I have night class every night of the week. I brought up many good points from the thread and told him how it makes me feel. I told him the three to four breakfast parties a week and coworker visits through the day were keeping me from focusing on my studies and that thinking of a menu every morning was stressful.
Fuhad
Menu.
Sam
And it gave me anxiety. Also, the tapping on the window from random visits by his colleagues made me feel unsafe as well. They were all brought up by Redditors in the thread and a lot of the points I had never thought about myself. There were tears and some loud moments.
Fuhad
Loud moments. How has he got a voice?
James
Yeah.
Sam
The first time this has happened since we've even been together. But when I told him I made a thread on Reddit, he went absolutely ballistic.
Fuhad
Fair.
James
That's. Yeah, that's where the loudness came from. Yeah. He's realized, oh, my life is in the public now.
Fuhad
Yeah. Even though it's anonymous.
James
He's not thinking that. He's not thinking that. Oh, shit, they know what I'm like, now they know what I'm bringing to her table. I'm an asshole.
Sam
At this point, I went to our bedroom and confined myself to the bed. A couple of hours later, he came in, got in bed, and said that he was very disappointed in me.
James
Oh, that's not.
Sam
And that was that.
James
And that was that.
Sam
Yesterday morning, Thursday, everything was the same as usual. He woke up smiling and radiant as always and got ready for work quicker than usual. He came out to the kitchen while I was making the breakfast for the day and told me that he was glad everything had been cleared up. I gave him spare replies and didn't really feel like looking at him. He was shocked to see that I had only made a basic breakfast for him.
Fuhad
Let's go.
Sam
He told me other people were on the way, and I told him I had to catch a bus to the library to do a research paper for class. We had a loud argument that stopped when people arrived at our house. I stormed out and went about my business.
James
Let's go.
Sam
No words between any of us since then. Today I did the same, except I left the house while he was getting ready.
James
Let's go.
Sam
It is very sad that it has come to this, but I hope things settle down. My plan is to have another talk with him tomorrow morning and tell him that I am willing to cut the breakfast down to Mondays and Wednesdays only and that all visits from coworkers are to end immediately because I do not feel comfortable with them using our home as a rest stop. You've all been very helpful. Thank you. There is nowhere to go but up from here.
Fuhad
This guy's insane.
James
He is insane. He's a narcissist.
Fuhad
Mondays and Wednesdays. No, Never again. He's.
James
Never again.
Fuhad
We're not compromising on this.
James
Yeah, I'm surprised he's.
Sam
She's still willing to be like, never again. And then she's like, but I'll do it. Two days. No, that's insane to me. Like, I would never.
Fuhad
Wow. She is an angel.
James
She is. And he's taking advantage of that.
Fuhad
He's taking the piss and wasting it on dickhead coworks.
James
Literally.
Fuhad
Literally. She has all this love and kindness. You're wasting it on losers from work.
James
She's gonna burn out, bro.
Fuhad
Who are taking the piss and tapping your window. Do you not. Why you prioritizing how they feel over how your wife feels?
James
Yeah, that's.
Fuhad
Who gives a shit about these guys?
James
That's insanity.
Fuhad
Oh, that is horrible.
Sam
Wow. If they cared and liked you, they would be like, hey, buddy, you've been hosting now for months. Let me. Let me take one for the team. I don't even. I get that a lot of them are commuted in, but then find a diner nearby. I'll take one. Hey, buddy, you've been spending thousands of dollars on us a month, a week. So let us. Let us take care of you. Let's go to dad.
James
$1,500 a month. That's people's sad.
Fuhad
Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
They don't give a shit about him.
Sam
No, they're using him. The window tapping. No, I would.
Fuhad
That's scary. That happens once, it never happens again.
Sam
No, I wouldn't answer. Wouldn't answer anymore. But that's so hard when you're home and someone starts knocking on your door and like, you got a TV on. It's like, well, how do I play this off?
Fuhad
I would. I'll tell him. What do you. I would make that coworker have the confidence to tell me exactly what he wants. What do you want, bro? Cigarettes. Cigarettes and snacks. That's what I want. Do you hear yourself?
Sam
Like, this is not a general store.
Fuhad
Oh, my God. Do you hear yourself? Facts. Do you hear yourself? You're coming to my house, having a winter sip for cigarettes. You're an addict. Go away.
Sam
Mommy. Siggy.
Fuhad
Yeah. Oh, that's what? Scary.
James
Scary.
Sam
I would go crazy.
James
She's a trooper. She's a real angel. I'm surprised. I'm surprised she didn't lash out even more. I like the fact that she stormed out, like, after making him and her breakfast. It's like, oh, everyone else is coming there. Blah, blah, blah.
Fuhad
That's. That's your problem. I'm literally a major bed.
James
I would have loved to have been a fly in the water. See what the co worker said to him.
Fuhad
I know they would have ate their eggs being like, what the fuck is this today?
James
I didn't come here for this.
Fuhad
Is this what everyone's been banging on about?
James
Yeah, I came here for bacon, eggs and cheese.
Fuhad
Where is she? Facts. Where is she?
James
Where is she?
Fuhad
Disgusted.
James
Did you make this? I know this ain't your wife's cooking.
Fuhad
Warn me next time. I won't come. Wow. Okay.
Sam
I know. I love her sticking her gun if she has to.
James
She had to.
Fuhad
Geez, what a loser.
Sam
She does update in the comments three days later.
James
Okay.
Sam
People were asking, like, how has this been going?
James
Yeah.
Sam
And she goes, a lot of cold shouldering and silence this weekend with occasional talk from him unrelated to the breakfast. I wouldn't know what to update you with today as I'm at the library studying and he had to fend for himself this morning.
James
He's such an asshole.
Fuhad
Is he still bothered about this?
James
He's such an asshole.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah. I think he's too wrapped up in it to even understand. I think he's more concerned about preserving his social status at work that he can't even see outside.
James
Where she's coming from.
Fuhad
Yeah, where she's coming from.
Sam
I know. The last comment we have from OP is in response to someone that says this. Before you did this, did you know if any other wives performed that service for the office? And OP says, not that I'm aware of. But that doesn't change anything. Everything is over.
Fuhad
Oh yeah. It had to come. It had to come to a head. Makes sense.
Sam
But I'm like, everything. Is that like the breakfast or your marriage?
Fuhad
Sounds marriagey.
James
It's whatever you want to make up to me. I've said this is the last post you're getting from me.
Fuhad
The thread's over.
James
Yeah, the thread is over.
Sam
Yeah.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
Make of it what you will. You will, bro.
James
Use your imagination.
Fuhad
Yeah.
Sam
And that's all we got.
Fuhad
Wow, that was juicy.
Sam
The post is now 11 years old. Really?
James
Oh, damn.
Fuhad
Where she is now?
James
Shower, Herman.
Sam
Hopefully living her best life. Chin. Breakfast in bed from someone new.
Fuhad
Yeah. Doted on. I hope so. My God. You know, I hope he's jobless. I wish him Focus features in Blumhouse present Obsession.
Sam
When I have a crush on a guy no one knows.
Fuhad
Be careful. I wish Nikki love me more than anyone in the entire world.
James
Who you wish for? Obsession is 96% fresh on rotten Tomatoes.
Sam
I love you so so so, so much.
Fuhad
It's blood soaked nightmare fuel. What kind of spills you put on her? You have been warned.
James
Obsession. Rated R under 17.
Fuhad
Animated without parent.
James
Only in theaters May 15 with special engagements in Dolby.
Sam
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Fuhad
Yeah. Wow. That was fantastic. Yeah, well played.
Sam
I've got one last one for you here.
James
Cool. Let's do it.
Sam
Are you familiar with astrology and astronomy?
James
Barely. Not enough.
Sam
Oh, this is gonna be good.
Fuhad
Okay, cool.
Sam
This is from true. Off my chest, titled, I thought astronomy and astrology were the same thing. I might have ruined my relationship with my girlfriend.
James
Okay, right.
Sam
My girlfriend, 32, female of almost one year, has a doctorate in astronomy. My sister, 35, female, has astrology as her biggest hobby. I, 33, male, thought they were the same thing. And now I think I ruined my relationship with my girlfriend.
Fuhad
Sorry, what is the difference?
James
I was hoping you.
Fuhad
I know one of them is Scorpio, and them. Yeah. And I know one of them is actual science, but I don't know which one is which. I don't know which one is which. Okay, sorry.
James
I think I know, but I don't embarrass myself, so I'll let you think.
Sam
Yeah, we'll see what he thinks first, and then we'll see what happens. Okay.
Fuhad
Okay.
Sam
I thought she and my sister had lots in common. But after she met my sister, when I introduced her to my family, my girlfriend was angry. My sister was just confused. But my girlfriend, furious. At first she thought I was belittling her career by comparing it to astrology, which she says is completely fake. After I told her I honestly and truly thought they were the same thing, she got even more upset. She claims the only way I could think that was if I never listened to her. That's not true. They both have names that are almost the same, and they are both about space. My girlfriend says she has a doctorate, has worked in America at NASA and Europe at the space agency, and has written a lot of scientific papers.
James
Okay, love.
Fuhad
All right.
Sam
So her accomplishments should not be compared to someone who believes in astrology. My girlfriend has not spoken to me since the day I introduced her to my family.
James
Oh.
Sam
She canceled our visit to her family so I could have met them. She canceled our recent date, and she told me to figure it out when we argued after we left visiting my family.
Fuhad
Okay, this is a bit much.
Sam
She said we were done, but it was in the heat of the moment. I admit I made a mistake. I honestly did not know they weren't the same thing, but I don't think it was a huge mistake. I think I might have ruined the relationship with her. I swear I didn't know and I didn't mean to upset her.
Fuhad
Okay, that's a bit much. Understandably. Big mistake. But who cares?
James
She's taking it as like Morgan said, as if he's not listened to her for the past X amount of months or years they've been together. He's not taken what she does. She's seen as doesn't take what you do seriously. You don't listen to me whatsoever and you're comparing me to fake shit. That's all she's hearing when he says, oh, I didn't know the difference between the two. I thought they were the same thing. Which is an easy ish mistake to make. They're spelt similar bar one letter. So it's like, how can you be that mad at him?
Sam
So I think what you're interpreting how she's reading it. Spot on.
James
Yeah.
Sam
What's the thing that you guys are most passionate about in this world? Like, what is your niche? Your. I mean, like, your career is now podcasting and creating content. Is that your passion is like podcasting?
James
Like, I have a great example. I have a great example of how annoyed I would be if I was in her shoes. If my partner said Man United and Man City were the same thing.
Sam
That's where she's at.
James
Would make me want to jump off a bridge.
Sam
That's where she's at.
James
Yeah. So I understand. I can put myself in her shoes.
Sam
Like, it would be like you for a year being like, I have a podcast. I'm so passionate about it. I love, you know, reading stories and helping people. And then your partner being like, yeah, she, you know, she talks into a microphone, I think. But like, I don't really get what she does. And it's like. But like, that's a part of my identity. That's my passion. I'm so career driven and accomplished. I've worked at NASA.
James
Yeah.
Sam
I'm helping get people to the moon and you don't even know what I do.
Fuhad
But also, though it sounds like. But okay to defend homeboy, it sounds like to me the equivalent of like, he just thought. I don't necessarily. Granted, he didn't understand what she does, but it sounds like he just thought his sister is interested in her work.
Sam
So maybe it was more so that he doesn't know what the sister's into potentially. Okay.
Fuhad
Because he's obviously heard what his girlfriend has said.
Sam
You hope.
Fuhad
Yeah. And he just thought astrology, astronomy, the same thing. So he's like, oh, my sister bridging the gap, by the way.
James
She fucks with you.
Fuhad
Yeah. She has a illustrious career and she also is interested in this hobby only to find out. No, she's interested in spirits and ghosts and predicting the future and personality traits, essentially.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Instead of the universe.
Sam
Because astronomy, scientific study of celestial objects in the universe using evidence, physics and observation. Astrology is a belief system and pseudoscience that interprets planetary positions to predict human events and behavior. So it's like I was born in Pisces, and so I'm emotional and like, blah, blah, blah. So it's like more fakey versus no. Like, homegirl is doing math equations and figuring out physics.
Fuhad
I mean, I can understand that if I. Yeah, maybe if I'm just not listening to the sister and her interest. I just know there's an interest.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
I would still be like, yeah, you guys are into the same thing. I don't know. I don't know. I think I can talk myself into a very different.
Sam
Just boy brain.
Fuhad
Just boy brain. Like, yeah. Okay, cool.
Sam
Innocent.
Fuhad
If I don't know about astrology, it would be very easy for me to assume it's the same thing.
Sam
Okay, okay.
Fuhad
That makes sense.
Sam
Okay. I mean, I don't. Like, I know I'm a Pisces, but beyond that, like, I know astrology is like, there's so much to it. There's birth charts, things going retrograde, there's cleansing. I'm like, but I don't understand it. But I don't know. I feel like mixing the two of them up does seem a little hard.
Fuhad
It does. But if you're a complete novice. Because with the pseudoscience thing.
James
Right.
Fuhad
If I was like, oh, okay, cool. So how do you people know that, like, Tauruses have this behavioral trait and all that kind of stuff? If. Then my sister's like, oh, easy, because the stars, this and one and this and then that sounds like science to me. If I don't know that this is all bullshit.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
It sounds like, oh, okay, you're mapping the stars and that's how you guys predict this kind of stuff. If I just don't care and I just listen to it and take it as face value, I would assume it's the same thing that my wife does, regardless of all the intellectual shit that she tells me about it.
James
Not even necessarily the same thing, because it's a spectrum.
Fuhad
Yeah. It's not just the same thing.
James
Part of what she's doing. But she's working over here. My wife's working over here. But it's under the same umbrella.
Fuhad
Yeah. So hobby, career.
James
Yeah.
Fuhad
I just thought you guys had stuff in common.
James
And that's my bad.
Sam
She's trying to be nice, but maybe showed he's a bit too much of a dope for her to date.
Fuhad
Yeah. She said the whole thing is done.
James
Yeah.
Sam
You're too dumb for me.
James
That's an ick.
Sam
You're too dumb.
James
She was icked out.
Sam
Yeah, she was icked out. What's your biggest icks? What gets you. What gets you icked?
Fuhad
Where do we start? Where do we start?
James
Not being able to handle your heels. So you take your heels off in a dance and you go barefoot in the club? Yeah. Or outside of the club? Wherever.
Fuhad
Wherever.
Sam
Walking down the street after the club. I have been there once or twice. It's.
Fuhad
I can imagine. Everyone has.
Sam
Yeah. That's why you need to sneak some socks in your purse just in case. You take the heels off, put the socks on, throw them away when you get home.
Fuhad
Oh, nice.
Sam
At least you have, like, a thing. I know some people that have started to, like, hide their shoes, their flats in bushes, so when they come out of the club, they, like, grab their flats.
Fuhad
That's not bad. Shout.
James
You know people?
Sam
No, I've seen on TikTok.
James
Oh, okay.
Sam
The girls are doing it. It's a new thing.
Fuhad
Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. That's like. That's clever. It's clever.
Sam
I wouldn't want to. I'd be scared my shoes would get stolen from the bush.
Fuhad
Who's stealing flats from a bush?
James
Homeless people, bro.
Fuhad
They deserve them then. Yeah.
James
If it was vaccine, I wouldn't be upset.
Fuhad
If I came back and my flats
James
were gone a blind, I wouldn't be upset. I'd be pissed, but I wouldn't be upset.
Sam
Yeah, you got to bring the cheapies if you're gonna do it.
Fuhad
I guess my biggest ick. You know what? This is actually funny because it came up a conversation the other day. The lengths that people will go to to avoid having their, like, if they're on a date and they want to get as much, like, pictures and videos of this date as possible without including the person you're on a date with. So to the point of, like, if you're in a restaurant and you're having, like, video in your food and then your partner's there and you're like, yeah, that shit.
Sam
That's weird.
Fuhad
That can't happen to me in person.
Sam
Who you hiding me from exactly?
Fuhad
The world.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
Yeah, 100%.
Sam
I. Social media. Here's like. Social media is so fake and I'm so tired of it. I have, like, someone I know that will take pictures on dates and, like, like, discreetly show the date's hand, save it, and then post it on, like, a Friday to make it look like she's booked and busy.
James
That's a literal Drake Bar. Really? That's a literal Literal Drake Bar.
Fuhad
What do you say?
James
And he literally said, booked and busy as well. I will have to find it and I'll send it to you. Wow.
Fuhad
Really?
James
Yeah.
Sam
That's crazy. I'm like, can you see what you see on social media?
James
I think it's called Emotionless Scorpio.
Fuhad
Oh, really?
James
Yeah.
Sam
Okay. Okay. Are you Team Drake?
Fuhad
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam
Oh, yeah.
James
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Sam
Oh, my gosh. I love it. Top comment on this one. Girlfriend realized she's dating a box of hammers.
Fuhad
Oh, wow.
James
Well, let's put it.
Fuhad
I think. Okay. My final thoughts on that are she realized he's dumb, and I think she could have handled it with a little bit more grace.
James
I agree.
Fuhad
As opposed to treating him like he's done something, like, aggressively offensive.
Sam
Yeah.
Fuhad
I think she could have just woke up and be like, yeah, you're just a idiot.
Sam
Well, I mean, you have dated him for a year. Like, this is the first you've noticed him being dumb.
Fuhad
Yeah, this was.
Sam
This was the straw.
Fuhad
Yeah. And, like, also just like, his.
Sam
It's a valid straw.
Fuhad
It's about a straw. But, like, his intention was trying to be kind. It's not like he was just flippant about, like, I don't give a. About what you do. Yeah. Like, it's all the same, same, same. Figure it out. He was genuinely just trying to do something kind and nice and then it up, and then it's taking extreme accountability. And then just like, breaks my heart when he's like, bro, she's completely left me after a year of good times because I made this mistake, and I'm owning up to the mistake, and I'm sorry about the mistake. I was trying to be nice. And then she's like, you, dude, we're done.
Sam
I think we need to start giving people the benefit of the doubt more, like, when we know people are not malicious. There's obviously glaring red flags that some people have where you're like, like, no, no, no. Like, that's. I'm gonna stay away from them. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. But it's like, if it's someone you were dating for a year, you know them.
James
Yeah.
Sam
Like, maybe give them a little slack. Not. Maybe not in this case, but just in general, like, yeah, we gotta have a little bit more nuance to things.
Fuhad
I've had this discussion with, like, exes in the past, and all this kind of stuff is, like, where something will happen in a vacuum and they will treat me like they don't know me, and I'm like, if we've been together for like two years, does this scenario seem like part of my personality? If not, please let's take like a step back and be like, what might he actually mean with this situation? What's going on? Because it's not what I know him to be.
James
Don't make blanket statements.
Fuhad
Yeah. Like, don't just treat me like I'm a stranger off the street who's offended you. Like, take all the information that you know about me and then use that with like, your judgment of this, like,
Sam
like, specific scenario, which is so fair. And if someone can't do that, then it's like, it's not going to work. Cuz, like, you have my track record. You know me. Maybe this specific time should be put in a separate little box.
James
Yeah.
Sam
Because there's this context behind it. That's why I reacted. I was triggered or I didn't see that or what. But yeah, I'm. I'm on your page.
Fuhad
Nice.
Sam
Where can people find you? Thank you guys for being here.
Fuhad
Thank you for having us.
Sam
I loved running this back.
James
I forgot how good this was.
Fuhad
That addiction is gonna stick with me
James
and the wife cooking meals every day.
Fuhad
Oh, my God, that's so fucked. Yeah. Wow. Okay, that was fantastic.
Sam
But you guys, you. I mean, your segments are amazing. You get an ick relationship advice. You have been seeing a lot of your, like, imposter content and like, figuring out who's the imposter.
Fuhad
Oh, that's fun. Yeah, that's a fun game.
Sam
You do some fun stuff. So where can people find you?
Fuhad
So literally shits and gigs or James and Fuhad? Literally anywhere. Just type it in and then, yeah, you can see us on TikTok or YouTube or Spotify or wherever you digest Instagram. Yeah, wherever you would prefer to see our faces, you can surely find us there.
Sam
Okay, Amazing. All of their links will be in the description. Check them out. Amazing Podcast. And until next time, guys. Bye,
Fuhad
Sam.
In this lively episode themed “Boy Brain,” host Morgan Absher welcomes the hilarious and insightful James and Fuhad, hosts of the ShxtsnGigs podcast. The trio dives into a selection of wild, cringe-worthy, and thought-provoking Reddit relationship and AITA stories, offering the elusive “male perspective” (aka "boy brain") that listeners don’t often hear on Two Hot Takes. Expect infectious banter, raw honesty, and plenty of laughter as the group navigates internet drama, toxic dating dynamics, and relationship faux-pas—peppered with cultural differences, personal confessions, and their signature hot takes.
The tone is irreverent, blunt, and energetic, with the comedic chemistry of Morgan, James, and Fuhad shining through. While they delve deep into complicated and messy relationships, their candor, British humor, and willingness to “go there” make even the grimiest stories feel cathartic and entertaining. Listeners will feel affirmed, seen, and perhaps a little “boy-brain” enlightened.
This episode is packed with outrageous storylines and honest male perspectives on relationships, manipulation, double standards, hygiene, jealousy, and communication mishaps. The hosts don’t shy from hard truths, but always keep things light with laughter and camaraderie. Expect to walk away having laughed out loud, seen both male and female sides, and perhaps wanting to audit your own relationship’s “boy brain” factor.
Find more from Sam, Morgan, James, and Fuhad at @twohottakes and the ShxtsnGigs podcast!