280: Absurd Chaos Ft. MacDoesIt

Summary

Two Hot Takes – Episode 280: Absurd Chaos ft. MacDoesIt

Release Date: July 30, 2026
Host: Morgan Absher
Guest: MacDoesIt

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Episode Overview

In this chaotic, laugh-filled episode, Morgan Absher invites MacDoesIt—a satirical internet commentator and YouTuber—to dive into a hand-picked set of wild, unexpected, and sometimes cringeworthy relationship and life stories from Reddit and listener submissions. The theme? Bizarre family boundaries, absurd dating trends, wedding drama taken to new heights, and what happens when the line between friendship and romance gets hilariously blurred. The pair serve up rapid-fire reactions, supportive real talk, and their own life experiences as they wade through the juiciest, most “absurd chaos” the internet can offer.

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Key Discussion Points & Story Breakdowns

1. Pet Names Gone Wild: "My mom wants my boyfriend to call her Peaches"

• (04:28–16:31)
  • Morgan reads a Reddit post where a young woman details introducing her boyfriend to her mother for the first time, only to have the mom demand he call her "Peaches."
  • Mac is instantly gobsmacked:

    “Peaches is kind of crazy. Like, just coming up with a random nickname—that feels very much like, okay, alter ego, I guess.” (08:34)

  • Both hosts debate whether this is over-the-top, culturally coded (Black family, Southern roots), or a power play rooted in the mother’s history of competing with her daughter.
  • Morgan references a Netflix documentary about moms getting inappropriately involved with their kids’ partners as a relatable, if extreme, example of boundary crossing.
  • They also analyze Reddit comments noting possible narcissism or blurred familial boundaries.
  • Final take: It’s odd and likely a boundary issue—best to set clear expectations with the mom.

2. New Dating Low: “Shreking” to Find Less Dramatic Partners

• (16:31–22:39)
  • A story about a woman whose date admits he’s practicing “Shreking” (dating people he finds less attractive for less drama).
  • Morgan and Mac are appalled by the “trend,” immediately tracking down a Vice article explaining that “Shreking” is when someone lowers their dating standards in hopes of better loyalty.
  • Mac deadpans:

    “Guarantee? That’s crazy… If someone literally said, ‘I’m Shreking,’ like, no thank you. I’d be like, let me go back to my swamp.” (18:49)

  • They praise the poster for walking out and encourage listeners to “at least get a free meal” if you’re stuck with a terrible date.

3. Wedding Veto Warfare: Excluding Each Other’s Closest People

• (24:04–37:40)
  • Morgan brings up a wedding “veto” arrangement where each partner can ban one person from attending. The bride vetoes her fiancé’s sister after he vetoes her close friend, catalyzing a downward spiral.
  • Mac and Morgan break down the red flags:
    • The bride’s vague complaints about her future sister-in-law’s “lifestyle” (“Is she just a hot topic girl?”) point to deeper political and value clashes.
    • The hosts point out the tit-for-tat mentality: “It’s giving Bridezilla a little bit.” (27:51)
    • The story devolves into the OP revealing conservative views regarding childfree people and attire, which the hosts roundly critique.
  • Takeaway: The wedding isn’t the real problem—poor communication, value mismatches, and jealousy are.

4. Delusional or Gaslit? Confessing Feelings to a Married Manager

• (39:54–58:28)
  • Story: A pharmacy tech contemplates confessing feelings to her (much older) married boss after interpreting benign kindness as romantic interest.
  • Mac offers heartfelt real talk:

    “I think she might be misreading it… I think you're just experiencing what I found—therapy called it 'feeling neglected.' When you feel neglected, when someone gives you what you’re missing, you might interpret it as, ‘Oh, we're supposed to be together.’” (44:18)

  • Hosts encourage OP to seek connection elsewhere rather than blow up a marriage and work life.
  • Shocking twist: OP later updates that her intuition was right and her manager eventually did proposition her (after she’d already found a new job), validating her gut but revealing his predatory behavior. Mac admits, “You know, moral of the story, don’t second guess a female’s intuition.” (53:24)
  • Both puzzle over OP’s relationship to her own intuition and boundaries, ultimately agreeing the manager’s actions were gross but OP’s self-justification and rationalization were “confusing.”

5. From Lifelong Friends to Lovers

• (61:42–75:41)
  • Reddit post: Longtime platonic best friends and roommates realize—after spontaneously sleeping together—that they’ve basically “been dating for ten years without knowing it.”
  • Mac encourages taking the plunge: “Just go for it.”
  • They analyze whether she reciprocates his feelings, deducing from years of subtle signals (crying on the couch, always cuddling) that she probably does.
  • OP’s follow-up confirms: she’s been waiting for him to say it since college, turning their story into a real-life rom-com.

    “Now we are waiting for our Chinese food to come. After some awesome sex…” (74:49)

  • Cue Morgan’s mock envy and the “lobster too buttery” meme—life’s too good!

6. The “Free Wedding” Fallacy: Financial Illusions and Hidden Motives

• (79:38–110:38)
  • Story: A 23-year-old bride wants a totally free wedding by crowdsourcing every element (venue, band, cake, flowers, etc.) from friends and family—despite coming from relative financial privilege.
  • Morgan leverages her own wedding planning experience, breaking down real costs versus “free” expectations (e.g., tent rentals, bands, flowers).
  • Hosts debate: Is it rude for a friend to point out how unrealistic this is? Mac says, “I feel that. Maybe she didn’t have high expectations…but it’s intimidating if you’re not a professional and she sends you these cakes.”
  • User comments: Most say not the asshole, but note the bride—Coral—is naive, not malicious.
  • Twist: Further updates reveal Coral’s fiancé, Basil, pushed the free wedding idea just to buy a boat with the money saved—from a Catalina 27 to an obsession with the marina lifestyle. Morgan and Mac are floored by his gall, ultimately rooting for Coral’s hot-girl-divorce-and-glow-up.
  • Quote:

    “There’s two really good days with boat ownership—the day you buy it, and the day you sell it.” (103:09)

  • Morgan closes with tough-love advice: Sometimes you have to let friends make their own mistakes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Southern pet names:
  “Are they, like, Southern? I feel like it’s more like a Southern… thing. Hey, sugar. Hey, Peaches. But, like, first time? It’s kind of crazy.” – Mac (13:21)
• On the ‘Shreking’ dating trend:
  “I would have walked out as soon as they said Shreking. I’m grown. I would have just left.” – Mac (18:54)
• On wedding vetoes:
  “I feel like family is, like, you know, that’s blood and if your fiancé is really close to his sister, they should be at the wedding… [Bride] sounds not very nice.” – Mac (26:24)
• On work crushes and neglect:
  “Girl, you might need to just go out—go on Tinder and go lay with a man. You need a hug.” – Mac (44:18)
• On accidental love stories:
  “She was crying next to you about how she couldn’t find a man—maybe that was her way of leaving hints.” – Mac (67:58)
• On the free wedding saga:
  “You really did shit in her Cheerios.” – Morgan (86:42)
  “I want to see what happens. We’ll be part of the TikTok.” – Mac (99:33)

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Episode Highlights & Timestamps

| Topic/Story | Start | Key Points / Quotes | |--------------------------------------------------------|-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Opening banter, guest intro | 01:08 | “This is not your first rodeo!” – Morgan | | Peaches: Mom asks for pet name | 04:28 | “Peaches is kind of crazy.” – Mac | | Shreking: Dating “beneath your league” | 16:31 | “Let me go back to my swamp.” – Morgan | | Wedding veto drama | 24:04 | “It’s giving Bridezilla a little bit.” – Mac | | Confessing to a married boss/manager | 39:54 | “You might just need a hug.” – Mac | | Lifelong friends become more | 61:42 | “I think she was crying to leave a hint.” – Mac | | Free wedding entitled drama | 79:38 | “You really did shit in her Cheerios.” – Morgan | | Boat plot twist, friend’s dilemma | 101:09 | “Just make the cake at this point.” – Mac | | Reflections, closing banter | 110:43 | “Your energy was so fun, so contagious. I’m obsessed with you and your content!” – Morgan |

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Overall Tone & Chemistry

Both hosts maintain a lighthearted, supportive, and chaotic energy throughout, blending sharply funny riffs, genuine advice, and personal anecdotes. Mac’s open humor and life experience as both a commentator and member of marginalized communities bring refreshing depth to the hot takes, especially around boundaries, self-worth, and reading cues in relationships.

For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, expect a wild ride through real Reddit dilemmas and life lessons—ranging from the merely awkward to the completely unhinged. Come for the drama; stay for the humor, vulnerability, and mutual support between Morgan and Mac as they process people doing the most… and the worst.

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“Let her coral, coral.” – Mac (105:48)

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Transcript

[A]

This episode is brought to you by Universal Pictures. One Night Only, the rom com of the summer, hitting theaters August 7th. Set in New York City, two strangers, played by Monica Barbaro and Callum Turner, try to find love on the one night of the year that single people are legally allowed to have sex. From the director of Anyone but yout Easy A and Friends With Benefits, One Night Only brings a new spin to the modern rom com you. You're not going to want to miss it. One Night Only, in theaters August 7th. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook is you might find more than what you're looking for, from a browse to a bike ride this summer. Find more on Facebook. Okay, we're rolling on everything. We're ready. Are you ready?

[B]

I'm excited. Yes.

[A]

This is not your first rodeo.

[B]

No.

[A]

You know Reddit.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You know, reactions.

[B]

I've become acquainted to Reddit. Yes. Acquainted to these chaotic stories.

[A]

Will you also just react to the most unique hinged content? I just watched your. Your trying to guess the movie based on the reviews, and I was losing my mind. I was like, I. I don't know any of these movies, and you were just clocking them.

[B]

I. It took me off guard, too. Like, it really, like, brought back a lot of random movies I watched in the 2000s when you're just sitting at home, you know? Yeah.

[A]

You're cultured. I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

I'm just a city boy that can't go outside, you know?

[A]

Yeah, well, there was one, too, and it was like, llamas and boobs. Like, what movie is llamas and boobs? But also flying. And you're like, it can't be The Aviator. Sure. Sure enough. The Aviator.

[B]

The Aviator.

[A]

And then I was like, I've seen that. There were llamas in there.

[B]

I don't remember the llamas either.

[A]

No. Fever Dream. Fever Dream. Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two Outtakes.

[B]

Oh, we started.

[A]

I'm your host, Morgan. We're on, baby.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You probably recognize him, but we've got Mac. Does it in the house or not?

[B]

I don't know. I got braids now. People, I feel like this is like a new era of me.

[A]

Yeah, your scalp is looking good. I heard you got sunburned.

[B]

Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, you were watching my content. Okay. No, I do my research. I had to, like, afro it out for a bit, but now, yeah, I'm okay.

[A]

You're healed.

[B]

I'm healed.

[A]

You're back with the braids, looking fresh. I love it. For my listeners who maybe aren't familiar, what's your elevator pitch to the people? What do you like to say?

[B]

Oh, I say, I am a satirical commentator on the Internet. I talk shit for a living, and I think I'm funny.

[A]

You are definitely funny. You're definitely funny. I feel like today, too, the stories that we picked out for you are, you're just gonna shine. We have chaos. It is just yummy, yummy. Bonkers. Another big word that started with an A that I really liked, but now I'm forgetting. Absurd.

[B]

Absurd. Okay.

[A]

It's not even a big word. Again. I'm like, my last three brain cells are rubbing themselves together like, you know, having a little chat around a fire, and it's just.

[B]

Mercury is in retrograde.

[A]

Is that what it is?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I was told you cannot mess with Geminis right now.

[B]

Like, people are like, mess with Geminis, period.

[A]

In general, but especially right now because of the way Mercury is in retrograde. They're like, a Gemini will kill you if you wrong them right now. Okay, so I'm, like, avoiding all the Geminis in my life. I'm just kidding, but okay, let's get into these stories, shall we? Yes, let's dive in. This first one I got for you, I think you're gonna set the tone. All right, so this is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit. It's titled, My mom wants my boyfriend to call her by a pet name.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh.

[A]

Hi, Reddit. This is my first post ever, so excuse me if any mistakes. This all happened today, and I'm genuinely baffled. Today, I, 24, female, introduced my boyfriend, 27 male, to my mother, 45 female, after about three years of dating, and I'm already regretting it.

[B]

Oh, this happened, like, right away. Okay.

[A]

I met his family last year, and it went amazing. They're all super sweet and I love spending time with them. I've been to a few get togethers and then Thanksgiving and Christmas. My family doesn't really celebrate either of those. My siblings and I have different dads, so they all go with their dad. And. And my mom usually works, so I normally spend the holidays alone, so spending time with them was really cool. He has not met a single family member of mine. It wasn't like I was hiding him or anything. My family is well aware that he exists. All of their interactions have been through me. I'm known for dating literal demons and this is my first long term boyfriend and my first partner in years to not be toxic. He means the world to me and I love him so much and I'm pretty protective of our relationship. While I think my family would like him for the most part, I was always scared of how my mom would react. Me and my mom have a rocky relationship. Sometimes she can be really fucking mean. She loves to provoke and the vibe completely depends on how she feels. Sometimes it feels like we are in some sort of of competition that only she knows about. She has hated all of my partners and has made me and everyone else very aware of it. She can be hypercritical about me and my relationships and always jokes about how she wants to like him but can't and how no one will ever be good enough for her daughter. Along with several other passive aggressive comments about every little thing that happens between he and I. However, she's been super eager to meet my current boyfriend. Okay, now onto today. I was invited to go to a party with my boyfriend's family and he was picking me up. My mom got home early from work and I was like maybe a quick hello to get her off my back for a while. So he reluctantly comes to the door and I tell her he's here. She gets all excited and I'm like, purr, this is great.

[B]

Purr.

[A]

Purr. She hugs him and I'm thinking everything is fine until I ask her what he should call her by.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

First name or maiden name? She laughs and says, quote peaches.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And I'm shocked. My boyfriend is laughing and I'm thinking this is all a joke. And so I say no, seriously. And she says it again. Peaches. Followed by quote. I've always wanted to be called that.

[B]

Okay, so this is a new name that just came out of the ether. All right,

[A]

Rho Girl, be so serious.

[B]

Girl, be so serious. Oh my God.

[A]

Peaches feels like a crazy nickname in this context. I mean, my grandpa calls me Peaches. The only other context that comes to mind is the sexual nickname Beyonce talks about in Partition.

[B]

Oh no.

[A]

We leave and nothing else happens. We had a good time at the party, but the whole time I was replaying it in my head. Is this weird? I don't even call my mom by pet names. My boyfriend doesn't call me nicknames, and she knows this, so I'M just really stuck on what I'm supposed to do to stop this.

[B]

I feel like it's like a constant story of the mother getting way too comfortable with the significant other right away. I feel like it's an overcompensating to be like, oh, you're welcome here, and then say something a little bit too much like, but Peaches is kind of crazy.

[A]

Peaches.

[B]

Like, just coming up with a random nickname that feels very much like, okay, alter ego, I guess.

[A]

Yes, that. And I was trying to put myself in her shoes, and I'm like, if my husband's mom was like, you can call me sugar. You can call me even honey. I'm like, no, you're Chris.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, hey, Chris. That's it. That's. That's what you're getting. Like, it just feels too personal, especially for just eating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, what is it? And it is interesting that op is like. It feels like I'm always in a competition with her that only she knows about. And, like, did you see that one Netflix documentary that came out where the mom was bullying her daughter?

[B]

Oh, yeah, like, texting. Yes.

[A]

And she was, like, trying to get with her daughter's boyfriend. And this girl was in high school. Like, sick and twisted.

[B]

Yes. I guess some mothers can be, I don't know, looking at their daughters being like, I want your life. I don't know. But that. That. That. That documentary was crazy.

[A]

It's so nuts. Or like, I don't know, like, let me be. Be your best friend. Like, let's. The boundaries are a little blurred of, like, that mother daughter vibe, but there's something here that just.

[B]

I'm trying to be in the shoes of the boyfriend. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, meeting the mom. Be like, oh, just call me Peaches. I.

[A]

What would you do?

[B]

I would be so uncomfortable. I just, like, awkwardly laugh. Yeah. Like, okay. You know, I would think it was just a joke the entire time.

[A]

Hey, Peaches.

[B]

Yeah. All right. Peaches. Oh, Peaches and cream. Like, that make it even worse. Actually, you did.

[A]

You did make it way worse there. Peaches and cream. Peaches and cream.

[B]

Oh, no,

[A]

no. But yeah, like, it's. Oh, my God, I'm already crying. I'm like, it's hard to come back from, but I think you need to just, like, pull your mom aside and be like, hey, he's gonna call you Sarah or Tina or whoever you are. Like, mom.

[B]

Like, being calm down to get down a notch.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You just met him. You know, maybe Peach is for year two Year two, you'll get there when

[B]

he actually comes to the Christmas party for the first time, you know, then maybe.

[A]

Well, especially. Cause, like, grandpa, like, her grandpa, calls her Peaches. So again, it's kind of like this. I don't know, Maybe. Is there any world that we're overthinking this and it is normal?

[B]

Are they, like, Southern? I feel like it's more like a Southern.

[A]

Maybe like a cultural thing. Hmm. Let's get into the comments. Maybe we're gonna find out. Okay, so top comment we have coming from Baby Squirrel.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I just had to read these names.

[B]

So cute.

[A]

It's weird. I think you're right about how she sees you as competition. In some strange way, it seems like she's jealous. She must know that Peaches is the nickname your grandfather calls you. So to ask for a pet name, let alone one that you're already called by a family member, is bizarre. She sounds like a narcissist to me.

[B]

Ooh, that's kind of a jump. But I don't know.

[A]

You never know.

[B]

Yeah, you never know.

[A]

You never know. Someone does respond and goes, same with the competition and narc behavior. My mom is like this, always competitive with me. Everything she said about her mom sounded exactly like my mom. She's trying to undermine her relationship. I'd keep him far away from her because this will only get worse the more they interact. And this is also ringing a bell for me. This is like, I haven't read this one on the show yet, but someone was like, my mom and stepdad asked to hook up with my boyfriend, and they, like, wanted to bring him in to their bedroom.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

And so I'm like, I don't know, some parents out there, like, again, sick and twisted. Sick and twisted. Someone says, mom, would you like him to call you Jessica, Ms. Jessica or Ms. Smith? Those are your options. And Op responds, I was genuinely confused. Like, I suggested those options, and she doubled down on Peaches. Well, mom, that's not an option. Op responds, it's so awkward because I still live at home, and I don't want her flying off the rails at me.

[B]

Oh, so it might be some narcy behavior then? Could be best situation.

[A]

Yeah. There is another one here. Someone says, you've been together for three years. You live with your mother, and she had never met your boyfriend until then. Also, he's 27. Surely rather than asking what to call her, he would just use her name. You're all adults. Maybe I'm just becoming cynical, but I don't believe you. Op responds, I'm not sure if this adds any context, but my family is black and from the South.

[B]

There we go. Okay, so that's a lot of context for me, at least.

[A]

Yeah, like, maybe it is just like, hey, sugar. Like, hey, baby.

[B]

Hey, Peaches. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's still. It's kind of a very much a cute pet name to say to someone that you know for a while, like, hey, Peaches. You know what I mean? That's very much like a family member. Like, I've known you for years, but, like, the first time, it's kind of crazy.

[A]

It would kind of throw me off. Op goes on to say, I'm not sure if this is just a cultural thing, but I don't even call my aunts or uncles by anything but auntie and uncle. I called his mother by her last name up until she told me to stop. Lol. As for how they've never met, my mom works weird hours. He moved to a different state a year in US dating. So when he comes, we plan around it for the most part. And he doesn't come to the door to grab me. And then there's a screenshot, and it's Op saying, you showed me your fam. I show you my fam. My mom is gonna be home, and you can say hi too. And it's the boyfriend responding, no. And then something that's scribbled out, sure. And boyfriend says, I don't wanna meet your mom. And Op texts back, she likes you. Boyfriend says, don't care.

[B]

Oh, wait, even more. Lord.

[A]

I'm like, what's the tea there? Like, have you.

[B]

So the boyfriend didn't even wanna meet her?

[A]

No.

[B]

So that means. Does she have stories about her mom that the boyfriend's like, oh, I don't wanna be in that situation.

[A]

Okay, that's what I want to know. Like, have you been telling boyfriend about Mom? And, like, you know, he's, like, really apprehensive and, like, no, don't fuck with her. But, like, I also think your girlfriend lives with her mom. I think it is, like, just a basic respect thing to at least say

[B]

hi, meet the roommates.

[A]

Literally, meet the roomies. It's been three years. Come on. You want us to meet family at wedding day? Like, what some people do.

[B]

That happens to some couples. Yeah, that would freak me out. Yeah. I don't want to be having a bunch of random strangers around me when I'm marrying the person I'm supposed to love, you know? Yeah.

[A]

No, I want everyone to Be like, ready. Drama's already been had. Yeah, I'm not really seeing any other comments really, about any lore, any drama between them, any stories, but basically just more comments about my mom doesn't like anybody I've dated, good or bad, demon or not. OP does say new Fear unlocked. Mom alone with my boyfriend. I think your boyfriend. I think you're safe.

[B]

You don't want to be alone with your mom.

[A]

Yeah, no, no, no. I think. I think you're safe on that one. But yeah, OP says I have been talking to a therapist, so, you know, maybe run it by them too. And I think you'll be okay. Yeah, yeah. Just Ms. Ms. Smith, you know, whatever it is. Just. That's. Get on board, babe. That's what you're going by. Okay, this next one for us is coming from R. Am I overreacting? It's titled am I Overreacting for walking out on a first date with someone that basically told me he was trying to date uglier people on purpose.

[B]

Oh. Oh, tell me. Let's get into it. That's hilarious. Okay.

[A]

I, 26, female, went on a date with a friend, 24 male, of my brother. 24 male. Apparently he had told my brother he wanted to get to know me.

[B]

First of all, friend of the brother, that's already no.

[A]

And I gave him permission to share my number and we went on a date. I thought it was odd because my brother doesn't have many friends.

[B]

See that? No. Where are we going?

[A]

And I don't really go on that many dates. But I decided to give it a chance because I usually only asked out by men double my age. Anyways, the date is kind of normal at the beginning. We're talking about music, anime, memes, etc. And then I asked what he liked about me. He responded, quote, to be honest, nothing much, but prettier girls are too much drama. So I was trying this thing I saw called Shrek.

[B]

Oh, oh no. Shreking. Shrek. Shrek Maxing dude, no.

[A]

When I asked him to clarify, he said that I wasn't normally his type. At this point, I'm a bit shocked, but decided to give a chance to someone who appeared to want to date without superficial reasons. I was a bit on edge, but the date continued normally for a while until he said, quote, I bet you're glad for this trend. How does it feel to be on a date with someone so handsome?

[B]

Oh.

[A]

I laughed, thinking he was joking. But he kept pressing me to answer, so I got up and left.

[B]

Wow. It's giving A Manosphere. You went on a date with a Manosphere podcast hoster?

[A]

What the hell? I have not seen anything on trekking.

[B]

I've never heard of that before either. That. But I'm not surprised. You know what I mean? Day and age, that happens.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Men be like that.

[A]

There's literally an article coming from Vice, and Shreking is a viral dating term where someone intentionally dates a partner they find less conventionally attractive. It also stems from dating someone beneath your league, and it will guarantee better treatment, loyalty, or an ego boost.

[B]

Guarantee? That's crazy.

[A]

Not many things in life are guaranteed.

[B]

Nothing is guaranteed. Nothing. Wow. But no, she's not overreacting for walking out. I would have. I would have walked out as soon as they said Shreking. I'm like, what? I don't know what that is. I'm grown. I would have just left.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No. If someone literally said, yeah, I'm sitting next to you because I'm Shreking, like, no, thank you. I'd be like, let me go back to my swamp.

[B]

Goodbye.

[A]

Goodbye.

[B]

Honestly, I don't think that would happen to me because I'm just like, drop dead gorgeous. But, you know, I'm trying to relate.

[A]

Oh, my God. No, thank you. No, not overreacting. No, no, no, no.

[B]

So I guess, I mean, was it like a younger brother? Older brother's best friend, Same age. Same age.

[A]

Op was kind of like, my brother doesn't really have any friends.

[B]

Yeah, he doesn't really have any friends. That already gives Manosphere right there too, you know, so there's so many red. The beginning of that first paragraph, I'm

[A]

like, this is your friend.

[B]

We need.

[A]

We need to save him. Send help. Comments. Not overreacting, but do call and ask your brother if he knows what Shreking is, and if he knows, that is why his friend went on a date with you. If he knew beforehand, there would be some hell to pay if it were my brother. Op responds, I researched what Shreking is, and it doesn't seem that bad on its own, but the point is to not date based on superficial reasons. But he saw it as dating uglier people, to feel morally superior or like, he was doing me a favor. He was still superficial.

[B]

I don't know if Shreking said. I don't know. We just looked up Shreking and we didn't agree with it.

[A]

That definition didn't come up. Like, if you want to just date for not superficial reasons, why are you. Why are you tying it to Shrek?

[B]

Yeah. Why are you tying it to Shrek? That's so Shrek. Interesting.

[A]

Shrek doesn't deserve that either.

[B]

Like, also, let me rewatch Shrek. Cause I'm like, wait, what do you mean? Wasn't she.

[A]

She was a princess and I don't know, turned into an ogre at night,

[B]

but, you know, this kiss turned her into an ogre pony forever. Yeah, yeah. How is that correlating to.

[A]

I'm not getting it, I'm not getting it. But I will say Shrek is on a lot of people's. Hear me out, cakes and not surprised. Human Shrek. When he turns into a human version, then people really go thirsty.

[B]

It's the Chad face, you know, it's that chiseled jaw.

[A]

That's what it is. People do start sharing Shrek memes in the comments.

[B]

Not that bad. He calls you an ogre girl. Stand up.

[A]

Like, basically, she's like kind of defending. I was like, ma', am, you felt so bad about it in the moment, you got up from the table and left. So it felt that bad in the moment. So don't.

[B]

Then don't try to excuse it.

[A]

Yeah, it's not that bad. No, it is that bad. Someone's like, that dude's a major Farquaad. Someone goes, not overreacting. I would have said handsome. What do you mean? And just made a grossed out face. Op goes, I really wish I would have thought to do this. Lol. And someone else is just like, you did great. Like, you honestly handled it better. Like just getting up and walking away.

[B]

Be the bigger person. Just leave.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. God. Do what you gotta do. I mean, damn. I just.

[B]

Or I would have stayed for the whole dinner and then like, oh, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And then, you know, make him pay the bill and just left free dinner out of it.

[A]

Yeah. At least take the free meal. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Take the free meal. That's the moral of this episode.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Especially a good Italian spot with that good bread.

[B]

Maybe a chopped salad, the oil dip, you know? Yeah.

[A]

Deep fried ravioli. Ooh, I'm really hungry. I need food. This episode is brought to you by Freeform. It's a new era, a new reality, and a new obsession. Stassi's back in the new series. House of Stassi. A raw inside look at her world, balancing family, friends, career, and chaos. No apologies, no holding back. It's Stassi, direct from the source, unfiltered, unpredictable, and unafraid to say the quiet part out loud from her Husband Bo's crossroads to bestie KDM's brutal truth bombs to constant sister strife. Expect tons of inner circle shade reality royalty returns for the good, the bad and the Stassi. Watch the new series House of Stasi. New episodes Wednesdays on Freeform and streaming on Hulu. Okay, moving on to this next one for us. This is coming from Am I the asshole? Aita Relationships specifically, and it's titled am I the asshole for using my wedding veto on my fiance's sister after he used his on my close friend.

[B]

What is a wedding veto? Like not invited to the wedding, I guess.

[A]

Veto.

[B]

You can just veto and you uninvited your fiance sister. Ooh, we're getting messy.

[A]

I, 27, female, am getting married in two months to the love of my life, 30 male. We have a large guest list and have been narrowing it down little by little. My fiance has said that we should both agree on who gets invited slash uninvited, and I agreed to it. Our one exception is the veto where both of us get to veto a person off the wedding list. He suggested it and I agreed. The veto means we can cross a person. The other one wants to be there from the list and then provide our reason why. My fiance has vetoed having one of my friends, and I'm disappointed. She was my roommate in college and she has been with me through a lot of changes in my life. I consider her close to me and it hurts that he doesn't want her at the wedding. We don't have a bridal party, just a best man and maid of honor, my fiance's brother and sister. I don't like my future sister in law. We have very different opinions on several things. She lives a lifestyle I find distasteful, and I just don't enjoy being around her.

[B]

What does that mean? Like, what are the clue hints about that? Okay, all right.

[A]

My husband, however, wants his sister at the wedding. He worships the ground she walks on, and I don't know how he can be so blind about her. I have very few nice things to say about her, and he knows that because he felt entitled to use his veto on my friend. I thought it was only fair that I could use mine on his sister. When I told him this, he told me he loved me, but that this was crossing a line. I said, then my friend gets to come. We had an argument that ended with him saying that his sister was right about me before he left for work.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

Now I'm just sitting here wondering if I was wrong to fight him on it because I love him and I want to marry him. Am I the asshole?

[B]

Yes, unfortunately. I would say. I feel like family is like, you know, that's blood and if your fiance is really close to his sister, they should be at the wedding. That's probably a bullet you gotta swallow if you don't agree with the person's beliefs. So vague, so vague there. Like, what are your beliefs then? You know?

[A]

Uh huh. No, that's my question.

[B]

I'm like, like, what do you. What was the pivot point?

[A]

Yeah, you have very different opinions. She lives a lifestyle I find distasteful.

[B]

Distasteful. It's like, what is she doing?

[A]

I'm reading between the lines and I immediately I'm jumping to which one of you is maga?

[B]

Yeah, I think I'm like, who is a Trump supporter and who.

[A]

I'm like, someone is.

[B]

And like, who vote. Who voted for Mandami and who voted for.

[A]

I'm like, just say it. Like, why are we being so couth about this? Are you the asshole? Yes. I think there's some serious jealousy going on here. Like, even the line where he worships the ground she walks on, That's.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[A]

Does he. Or does he just like his family?

[B]

I was like that. He's. Yeah. Loyal to his family, you mean? Yeah.

[A]

I have very few nice things to say about her and he knows it. You sound not very nice.

[B]

It's giving Bridezilla a little bit.

[A]

Definitely giving Bridezilla. Yeah. This was not something I ever dealt with during wedding planning. Like, we never had this veto rule. I know people have veto on baby names. I've seen that come up quite a bit where they'll give each other veto power. But I feel like if you have, I don't know, a normal, healthy relationship, you just talk, you just communicate. And then I'm like, God, what does he have against the friend? Has the friend been inappropriate?

[B]

Yeah. What happened with the friend?

[A]

Yeah, I'm spiraling. I'm crashing out. I'm like, what's going on here?

[B]

Did the roommate. Did the roommate get too close? Yeah, there's so much. We got more lore, you know?

[A]

I know. Okay, so the top comment, Yikes. Absolutely wild to suggest he not invite his sister. What is his issue with your friend? That he doesn't want her there. What is so wrong with his sister that you would make such an insane suggestion? Or are you just going tit for tat because he vetoed your friend? Sounds like a fun start to the marriage. You're the Asshole. Next comment. Responding to that. Also dropping the quote, my sister was right about you is not going to make OP want to invite the sister ever. Sounds like wedding plans may need to be put on hold for a while.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But yeah, for her to go straight to the sister after the friend. I mean, I'm guessing she is like an only child and she found her, like, best friend, like a sister to her.

[A]

Yeah, it does seem like it was like, well, if you're going to take away someone that's really important in my life, you're going to. You're going to see it'd be taking

[B]

away my safe space and taking away yours kind of situation, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Which again, that tit for tat mentality isn't going to get you.

[B]

You know what? Therapy is great. You know, everyone should try it.

[A]

I need more. I'm like, give me more. So there is a comment that OP responds to here. Someone says, this veto was obviously a terrible idea. What's your issue with the sister's lifestyle?

[B]

Mm, There we go. Are we getting an answer? Okay,

[A]

she responds, she's not child friendly, overly involved in politics, and just has some very non compatible values with mine. We are practically opposites.

[B]

Overly involved in politics. Was she like an advocate or like a protester? Is she out on the streets? Is that what's happening here? And she's like, oh, she's too much. Ooh, Someone respond. Okay, so someone did vote for mom, Dahme and someone.

[A]

But which one?

[B]

Which one? Which one?

[A]

Who is it? Someone responds, so question mark. And since your fiance worships the ground she walks on, have you considered he agrees with her and that you two aren't compatible? Does he know what you don't like about her? Sounds like a good talk to have to see if you should break up.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

OP responds before the wedding. Literally time to call it. OP says yes. He knows. He thinks her views are out there and a bit extreme. But he also insists she's a good person. I just don't see it. Witch.

[B]

Oh, so witch. Yeah, like who? Who's leading where? Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm seeing comments about sex stuff. She has out there views about having public sex. She wears dog collars like necklaces. We are.

[B]

Oh, so she's a kinky girl.

[A]

We are going off the rails here.

[B]

So she's a kinky boots queen. Okay,

[A]

so OP responds to someone else and goes, I'm not maga, just a healthy amount of conservative. She has said hurtful things about me in the Past. I don't want a person who lives a life that is explicitly not child friendly around my kids. And she's a part of this whole child free movement. Someone responds, what's the problem with being child free? Op responds, it's unnatural. Question mark, question mark.

[B]

Oh, all right. Okay. Okay. Maybe I don't wanna go to the wedding. You know.

[A]

Yeah, I think I'm out.

[B]

I think I'm like, okay.

[A]

Also like, is she wearing dog collars or is it just a choker necklace? Cause those are back.

[B]

Yeah, it might be a choker necklace. She might be just a hot topic girl.

[A]

You know, um, apparently there's some issues about a potential dress that the sister was going to wear and our writer has a problem saying, like she would dress inappropriate. Like this is not okay for her to wear this dress.

[B]

And that's when you have a dress code for your wedding.

[A]

Yeah. Apparently this neckline shows too much cleavage. A slit isn't appropriate. I'm sure she'll wear some of her usual jewelry. These are all comments coming from op. We do get a link for the dress. Are you ready?

[B]

Yeah. Show me.

[A]

It's beautiful.

[B]

Oh, I was expecting like a. What was it, like a JLO deep V or something when you were a pose Neckline, simple. It's just giving like James Bond, you know, situation hot girl dress.

[A]

Yeah, it's giving like normal hot girl dress. And I'm like, you can't wear dog collar with that. So like she'd be fine. Yeah. Maybe some drop earrings. So for those listening, it is like, like a beautiful, like higher neckline. It actually like the neckline kind of sits right on top of the boob. Ruched dress. A slit that's, you know, maybe a little upper thigh, but depending on how tall you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like on me that would be above my knee because I'm a short gal and it's got like a halter, A halter top. So like it's staying up.

[B]

It's pretty nice.

[A]

She can rock those. You know the moves after getting a little beverage or two and it's not coming down. It's a very cute dress and it has 4.4 star reviews after 155 purchases.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I'm going to be honest. I do want to order it. I add to cart. I'm obsessed. Yeah. So I think op what I'm learning,

[B]

a healthy amount of conservative might be a little bit too healthy.

[A]

Yeah. I have a problem when people start and crouching and judging on others and it's like if she Wants to be child free. Cool. Like, maybe she'll have more time to be an amazing aunt to your kids then. Like, I just think it's weird when you start to be like, it's unnatural. Yeah, that's not the case because some people, literally, even if they are with a partner that they could have kids with air quotes, you might struggle with infertility. Like, nothing is guaranteed. So, like, unnatural.

[B]

Unnatural is a crazy thing to say.

[A]

That's absurd.

[B]

Like, that's when you lose a lot of people on your side when you say it's unnatural. It's like, well, yeah, last time I checked, you're not God, so you don't even know.

[A]

Like, I have heard of stories that people find out they're actually like, they don't have ovaries when they start trying to find, like, start trying to have kids. Like, you don't, you don't know unless you've gotten a scan. Like, you don't know how many eggs you have. You don't know if he's got a

[B]

sperm count or if he has eggs himself.

[A]

He could have some eggs. He could have a fallopian tube. We don't know.

[B]

We don't know.

[A]

Some people have both. You know, we are magical. Our bodies are magical. So someone does respond and goes, oh, ew. To her unnatural comment. And that's how I feel. Like, ew, just bug off and let people live. And someone does bring up to her. So you'll be unnatural if you have fertil and are unable to ever have kids of your own. And OP responds, the lack of desire is unnatural, not the inability. So again, just, you're, you're moving the goalpost and freak behavior. I'm just like, girl, grow up in

[B]

this economy, I feel like a lot of people don't have desires to have kids right now.

[A]

You know, I just saw something where on average kids cost a million dollars. Like from 0 to 18 isn't like,

[B]

what, like 300,000 a year or something? Or like 100,000 plus?

[A]

I could, I could so say the child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you talk about clothes, food,

[B]

sports, technology, especially when like, babies like diapers. Oh my God, diapers, formula. If you're like, not.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot of people. I'm on a really weird side of TikTok right now. I'm so sorry, everyone. Like, I'm just like, my algorithm is messed up and maybe this is not messed up. I don't know if I'd be able to handle it, but I've seen A big movement for reusable diapers, and it's so green. And I love that for people.

[B]

I've also seen videos about reusable pads, too.

[A]

And I'm like, oh, well, there's a period underwear now.

[B]

Yeah, there's a period underwear.

[A]

Period underwear.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like a giant adult diaper or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You just wash them. I'm kind of. I'm kind of for it. Cause I'd rather.

[B]

Instead of having it constantly.

[A]

Yeah. Versus, like, a Dixie cup, where it's like a little bowl that I'm shoving up. Like, I think I'd rather just put on some underwear. Free bleed. Hey, I'm so sorry, Mac.

[B]

I'm like, it's fine.

[A]

You're gonna walk out here being like,

[B]

I was raised by women. It's fine.

[A]

Okay, Morgan, you both had a Dixie cup.

[B]

I'm Doug. It's a diva cup. Diva cup. Oh, my God.

[A]

It's a stop.

[B]

Or you put a Dixie cup. See, I didn't judge. You might put a Dixie cup up there. I feel like that would give you, like, toxic shock, but, you know, to each their own.

[A]

Stop. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, thank you, Bailey, for the Dixie diva cup save. This episode is brought to you by Credit karma. When it comes to your money, credit karma keeps you ahead of the game. You can count on credit karma to keep up with your financial needs. As they evolve, they'll help you monitor your progress and give personalized recommendations so you can make strides towards your goals and find your way to money. Make sure you're on the right track no matter where you are on your financial journey. Intuit, Credit karma, karma you can count on. This episode is brought to you by tociatry. When your mental health is suffering, finding the right treatment can be overwhelming. That's where talkiatry comes in. Talkiatry is an online psychiatry practice with licensed psychiatrists who can evaluate, diagnose, and provide ongoing medication management. When appropriate, they accept major insurers can treat anxiety, adhd, depression, and more. And you can schedule your first visit in days, not months. Go to tokyetry.com hottakes to get matched in minutes. That's T-A-L-K-I-A T-R-Y.com hottakes tokyotry.com hottakes this episode is brought to you by Disney and hulu. We're going retro for real with Disney and Hulu throwbacks on Disney. Throw it back to Hannah Montana, the Princess diaries, Camp Rock, and that's so raven. Then turn back the clock with Hulu with Golden Girls, Full House, Malcolm in the Middle, and Gilmore Girls. Oh, snap. It's your favorite throwbacks from Disney and Hulu. All of these and more now totally streaming 18 only offer valid for eligible subscribers only. Terms apply. Cup is about the same size as a duper cup. They're about the same size, so. Wow, that is wild. Okay, moving along to this next one.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Also, just psa. Apparently if you do use a diva cup, you have to boil them. So make sure everyone's being safe regardless of what you're using for your periods.

[B]

There you go. More, you know.

[A]

Okay, this next one, it's got me stressed.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Ooh, I'm sweating. It's coming from Aita Relationships titled Am I the asshole for planning to confess my feelings to my married manager?

[B]

Planning? Mm. Oh, okay. Come on. It's giving. It's giving. One of those, like, short form vertical dramas. I'm in love with my married manager. I already see the thumbnail.

[A]

Literally. I, 27, female, feel like I am losing my mind. My best friend just called me delusional and threatened to distance herself from me if I go through with this. So I need an outside perspective for my own personal sanity. All names have been changed. For the past year, I've worked closely with David, 38, male. He is the assistant manager at the retail pharmacy where I work as a pharmacy tech. He is married to Sarah and they have two toddlers. His locker is covered in drawings from his kids, and he talks about his family constantly. On paper, he is the ultimate family man. But over the last six months, I feel like our relationship has changed. It started in November when my dog passed away. He noticed I was crying in the break room, went down the street and brought me a vanilla latte and a muffin. He sat with me for 10 minutes and just listened to me vent. No one.

[B]

Some love happened. All you have to do is listen. Men. Men. Do you hear that? Bring a muffin and listen.

[A]

No one else at work even noticed I was upset, but he did. Since then, we've developed a routine. Whenever we pass each other by the stockroom, he gives me this specific warm smile. A few weeks ago, during a hectic Monday rush, I made a joke to a difficult customer that fell flat. But when I looked across the pharmacy counter, David was smiling and shaking his head. It felt like an inside joke, just between us.

[B]

This is so vertical drama.

[A]

Then there was the team dinner last month at a packed, deafening restaurant. Because it was crowded, David sat directly across from me. At one point, the room got incredibly loud. David leaned all the way across the table just to hear what I was saying. While I was talking, he looked directly at my lips, smiled, and nodded along. A few of our co workers at the end of the table actually stopped talking and just stared at us because it looked so intense. It felt like the rest of the room completely melted away. The biggest thing happened last Friday. We were staying late to finish checking in an inventory shipment. The store was closed. He walked over to check my progress, and as he leaned over my shoulder to look at the terminal, his sleeve brushed against my arm. He didn't pull away immediately. He stayed there for at least three seconds before he clocked out. He looked at me.

[B]

Oh, my God, Mr. Gray.

[A]

And he said, quote, don't stay too late, Shelby. We need you around here. It felt like a physical spark. I am convinced that he is trapped in a passionless marriage, and his kindness is his subconscious way of crying out for a connection. Okay? He always remembers exactly how I take my coffee. Men don't pay that much attention to a woman unless they are deeply attracted to her. My plan is to ask him to grab drinks after our shift this Thursday and gently lay my cards on the table. I want to tell him that I know he feels the connection, too, and that I'm willing to wait for him. My best friend snapped at me, saying, quote, shelby, he is a nice guy. He bought you a coffee once. You are being delusional, and you are about to ruin your job based on a sleeve brushing against your arm. Am I misreading this, or am I the asshole if I say how I feel?

[B]

Oh, I feel like she might be misreading it. I feel like I've been. I've been in that spot before, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you serious talk about a girl you might be experiencing. What I found. Cause I have. Therapy is called feeling neglected. And when you feel very neglected in, like, some personal space, when someone gives you that feeling of, like, what you feel like you're missing, you might interpret it as like, oh, we're supposed to be together. And so I'm like, girl, you might need to just go out and, like, go on some dates. I think that might be your answer. I think she needs go on Tinder and go, like, lay with the man for a few nights. You know, she needs a hug. Rethink your. Yeah, rethink how you're. How he's approaching you.

[A]

She needs some physical connection.

[B]

There's, like, a physical neglect in her right now and she's like misinterpreting this niceness of like a, oh, he wants me.

[A]

I would be very curious, like, when was the last relationship you had? When was the last time someone held your hand? When did you get a hug?

[B]

When was the last relationship you had? And how did that person treat you?

[A]

Yes. You know, did you cuddle? Like, to me, I, I, I think you are just so on the nose with it. Where she has been so neglected that literally a brush of a sleeve is sending her into a frenzy. Frenzy. Like she's giving Twitter painted like from Bambi. Like, she is just like, oh, my God. She's just distraught over this. And I'm like, to have someone listen to you and you think they don't care about women unless they're this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Attracted or invested or deeply connected.

[B]

Past relationships that were very one sided. And I guess that aspect, I'm kind

[A]

of like now I'm like, God, I'm just like a little worried for her because I'm like, are you not having genuine conversations with anyone in your life

[B]

unless they want to use you in some way? That's what it's kind of coming off of. Okay, girl, stand up.

[A]

I'm like, I really, I want to go give her a hug.

[B]

Yeah, it's got a. I'm starting to

[A]

feel really bad for op and I'm like, I do just think, like, he's just being a nice guy. Like, if I walked into my break room and saw someone crying. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the same thing no matter who they are.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Cause I, I went through, I mean, I'm, I had a therapy situation about that. I went through that period of like feeling neglect and I was like attaching myself really hard to a specific person only because they were listening to me during that time. And I went through that period of being like, oh, I think we're supposed to be meant to be together. Oh, I think, I think he wants me. Oh, I think he's in love with me. And you know, it took me a second to really snap out of that and realize, oh, I was just in a bad place.

[A]

How did you snap out of it?

[B]

Therapy. Was it really, it was really.

[A]

Was there something that your therapist said that just like clicked and you were like, oh, shit.

[B]

He talked to me about like just feeling neglect and all that stuff. And I was just like telling him about my feelings and everything. I was like, yeah, that's just like, you're just, you were in a situation where a person you were with or people you were with weren't really giving you what you want or what you feel and someone else did. And you like, translate that to what you like. Yeah, it's just, it's long, wide winded.

[A]

But I, I appreciate you sharing because I think that's like so relatable and like.

[B]

It is, it is.

[A]

I understand, like a work crush. Like sometimes these like little work crushes and people joke like, oh, that's my work hubby. It's my work wife. But he's married with two kids.

[B]

Two kids, a whole life. So that's just a full grown father just, you know, being nice to one of his employees. Like, he would be nice to probably one of his kids.

[A]

And I'm like, I'm not. I don't think we're like misinterpreting it, like, based on what OP is sharing. Like, I genuinely think she is misinterpreting.

[B]

She's misinterpreting a little bit. Yeah.

[A]

So we do have some comments. Okay. Top comment that I have right now. Of course, you're the asshole. He's married with children. You have no idea about the state of their marriage. And that is something where OP is like, he must be in a.

[B]

That's also. I forgot about the part I was like, have you taught. Has he like brought up his marriage problems? Has he said anything about it? No, I don't think so.

[A]

Not by the sounds of it. Otherwise then she would have added it. Because then it's even like more ammunition for her to be like, I love you. And the thing is too, where she, she says, like, I just want to like, lay my cards on the table. And then I'm. I'm willing to wait how long? Because divorce ain't gonna be quick.

[B]

That's not. Yeah, that's long process.

[A]

Okay, so he's.

[B]

So you're gonna be the side piece. That's your goal.

[A]

Like, what is also what relationship are you gonna even have? So he can determine if he wants to blow up his life, divorce his wife, split custody, 50, 50, go through a divorce, separate, maybe lose his house. Like, what are you gonna give him a couple more brush of the sleeves in the pharmacy? Like, what? How do you even know if you'd

[B]

wear looks and smiles? Yeah,

[A]

I wanna be like, I wonder what it's like to be this level of mystified. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

It's not great. As a person that experienced it, once the bubble pops, you're like, oh. And you just, you get really embarrassed. Like, the person I was really attached to. We're kind of estranged now. And I'm like, I understand, but at the same time, I kind of feel bad. I'm like, I'm so sorry. You know what I mean? Like, I know you didn't deserve all this from me, but, you know, I was in a place.

[A]

Yeah, I sorted comments by controversial now just to see if we have any people that are like, yeah, tell him. Like, tell him, girl. And still, even the controversial ones. You're the asshole. Girl. This isn't some romance book. Leave the dude alone. You want to be friends, cool. But don't make it more than what it actually is. You're willing to break up a family and marriage because you're selfish. And someone goes, even romance books wouldn't do this. Someone does say, go for it. Yolo.

[B]

I would be the one like, you know what?

[A]

Do it for the plot. Yeah, do it. Do it for the plot.

[B]

Do it for the plot.

[A]

It did get nine down votes, but only nine. Like, only nine. Which is, like, kind of concerning. Someone else goes, you're the asshole. Imagine being without a best friend and a job because she's gonna lose her bestie over this. Someone goes fired for sexual harassment and no reference.

[B]

I mean, yeah, that's pharmacy. I feel like there's a huge HR situation with pharmacists, so. Yeah, you can't fat. I'm not a life of pharmacists. Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to really fraternize in that.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

In those chemistry rooms.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. A lot of people just comment, your friend is right. You're being naive and delusional. At 27, people already should understand what is good and bad. Like, no, girl, no. And then we do get an update.

[B]

What happened? What did she do? What does she do?

[A]

Hi, Reddit. I definitely didn't expect this post to blow up so much. Okay. Many of you definitely had similar insight that my best friend had and shared with me beforehand. Prior to making this post, I had already began searching for a new job to remove myself from this environment as I have no desire to be the other woman or much less make a move on someone and become a home wrecker. You did not say that in the original post.

[B]

What?

[A]

You could have saved us a lot of stress. Within the last month and a half, I've been able to secure a new job working as a pharmacy manager, the same as David. When I left, I felt assured that this Reddit would not need an update since I had removed Myself from any and all contact with my previous co workers, David included. How wrong could I be?

[B]

Oh, oh, oh.

[A]

Two nights ago, my phone lit up at 11:30pm with a text from an unknown number. It turned out to be David. He started off by saying that he tracked down my private cell number by going through old company shift logs. He congratulated me on my new manager role. But then the tone shifted into something completely predatory and my stomach absolutely dropped. David said this.

[B]

Oh, so her intuition was correct. I'm sitting here talking about my. I was neglected, so I understand you. And she was right. It's fine, it's fine. But how? Leave it in.

[A]

How? David, quote. Honestly, Shelby, the store is completely miserable without you. I miss looking at you across the counter. Now that you don't work under me anymore, we don't have to worry about hr. My wife is taking the kids to her parents house this weekend. What Sarah doesn't know won't hurt her. Jail. How did she. How did. How, how, how, How?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

What wow?

[B]

You know, moral of the story, you know, don't second judge a female's intuition. I learned. I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm becoming better today. Hey, I just want to apologize.

[A]

Mm. She didn't share enough in the original post that like.

[B]

Yeah, she didn't.

[A]

And I'm like, the intimate dinner. It was loud. I'm confused. I sat there in absolute horrified shock. I wasn't delusional after all. The spark was real. But I had completely misjudged his character. He wasn't some noble, honorable family man. He was a textbook creep who deliberately used my vulnerability when my dog died to groom me for an affair, calculatingly waiting until I left the company so he could pursue me without getting fired by hr.

[B]

Oh, what a tone shift. This went from vertical drama to vertical horror.

[A]

I still. I'm like, I don't think he used your dog dying as a way to groom you.

[B]

Like groominess. Yeah, she's jumping.

[A]

That's very serious. Also, you're 27. And how could he have predicted your dog would die unless he went in there and is a serial killer? Okay, we are. We are really going off the rails here. I refused to protect a liar. I didn't reply to him at all. Instead, I immediately screenshotted the text, found his wife Sarah on Facebook, and sent them directly to her. I explicitly told her that I wanted absolutely nothing to do with him and believed she deserved to know exactly what her husband was doing behind her back. Yesterday morning, David Completely snapped. He sent me a string of furious, unhinged texts, calling me a psycho and a homewrecking liar and a vindictive bitch. Because Sarah had apparently packed her bags, taken the kids, and left him, he tried to claim that I ruined his life over a harmless joke and that I took things too far. To make it even crazier, two of my former co workers who are buddies with David actually texted me defending him. They claimed I was cruel for destroying a marriage and a family with two young kids, saying that I should have just blocked him and minded my own business. I am completely baffled by anyone defending this guy. I didn't destroy his marriage. David did that all by himself the second he decided to cheat on his wife and hunt down an ex employee's phone number. I feel entirely justified in protecting a mother and her children from a manipulative liar. And I refuse to let him flip the script and make me the villain for exposing his toxic behavior. All right, I'm really confused, though, and I don't know if I took the appropriate steps or if I jumped the gun. Am I the asshole? Da, da, da. Again,

[B]

I think she might have jumped the gun a little bit. I don't know. It seems like we're missing a lot of, like, characterization, you know what I mean? From the original one and this one. Just like a lot of. Suddenly he's a groomer, now you're like, okay, we're missing a lot of connections here. So I feel like it's hard to judge, but based off of just the jump without the connections, yes. She's coming off quite much.

[A]

I'm overall confused.

[B]

Mm, it's confusing.

[A]

You went from knowing he's married with toddlers and wanting to be their stepmomy.

[B]

Wanting to. Yeah, she wanted to risk it all, and now suddenly she's the better person.

[A]

And now that he does want ya. Yeah, you're like, oh, my God, he's a horrible person and his wife deserves to know. You were feeling the connection.

[B]

She was really into the fantasy. And then once the fantasy became real, she was like, wait a minute, what

[A]

signs were you giving him to feel this spark? You know, fire takes a lot of different elements to get it going. I watched Survivor. You need fuel. You need air.

[B]

You need a twig. You need wood.

[A]

What are you in this? Are you the coconut shell or are you the flint? Like, you know what I mean? Where I'm like you, it does take two to tango. And I'm like, you were saying it's

[B]

a two way street. Yeah.

[A]

There was like this huge spark and

[B]

I'm like, ma', am, you, the shoulder brushing the sleeves.

[A]

This is. This is nuts. Me personally, I don't know, I guess, like, send the screenshot and I don't know, whatever, you. You walk away with a clean conscience. And maybe that's what it's about. But also I think for Sarah to pack the bags and the kids. Maybe there's some other stuff.

[B]

There was other stuff bubbling.

[A]

Yeah, maybe there's some other stuff. Maybe this isn't the first pharmacy tech

[B]

rodeo he's fallen for pharmacy tech. Yeah, maybe it's. Maybe it is a whole ploy. Maybe he does that. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. We're missing characterization. We're missing.

[A]

I think you're right. What do you think is missing if you were gonna predict what was left out?

[B]

Just all about the man, the dude. I feel like she was so focused. She was more hyper fixated on how she felt about him in the first paragraph. I feel like she was overlooking probably so many red flags about him. And then she came back and was like, like I said, the bubble was popping. She's like, oh, wait, actually he's not that good of a guy.

[A]

You know, I think it's just one of those things. Like the bubble was popped, rose colored glasses came off. And I think it is like psychologically people want what they can't have. And then once you can have it, you're like, yeah, don't want it anymore. Like, I've been watching Love island, the UK version, way better.

[B]

Really?

[A]

And my girl Micah, man, like, she just has been going back and forth on Samraj and I'm like, mika, that is not your man.

[B]

I've never seen that show, but I know a lot of people are obsessed with it.

[A]

The.

[B]

Cause it's like, what, it's like a 247 surveillance dating show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Cause I watch Big Brother. I'm into Big Brother. I'm into competition. Competition, you know.

[A]

But are you watching this season?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Rick Defens is on and Dee, I'm

[B]

a big Survivor head of household right now this week. I don't know when this is coming

[A]

out, but I've never seen Big Brother. But I'm a huge Survivor fan.

[B]

I love. I mean, Big Brother is Survivor, but just in a house.

[A]

In a house with food, air conditioning.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Probably the one I'd be better at. I know I'm like trying to get my husband on Survivor and I want to do. I want to do a show, you know, I'm like, I need a fun show.

[B]

I want to do Traders. They started doing a regular people's Traders. And I'm like, maybe I can sign up for that. I don't think I'm. I think I do. I'm not like a C list celebrity, so I think I can get on the regular season of Traders.

[A]

You'd be really good. You'd be really good.

[B]

I think I'd be a really good trader. I think I'd be really fun.

[A]

Alan, we've got Mac right here for you, baby. I'd love to go together. Maybe we can, like, co apply. Do we know any casting people that work for NBC? Peacock and Traders.

[B]

Let us know. Hit us out.

[A]

Let us know. I would love that. Yeah, there's something. Something's off here. So this next story is actually brought to you by Universal Pictures. One night only. It's the biggest rom com of the Summer. In theaters August 7th. Set in New York, two strangers played by Monica Barbaro and Callum Turner, Du Lipa's new hubby, they try to find love on the one night of the year that single people are legally allowed to have sex.

[B]

One night. I'd go insane.

[A]

My nightmare.

[B]

How do they catch people? Not like, are there, like, trackers? I don't know. We'll see.

[A]

We're gonna have to see.

[B]

Yeah. Watch the movie.

[A]

We can go.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

It's messy. And speaking of this next story. Also a little messy. So this next story is coming from our best friend directcatipillar77.

[B]

It's directcatpillar77. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, he is on it. The best of the best. He finds it.

[B]

Hey, give it to me.

[A]

It is titled, I, 32 male, have been sleeping with my best friend, 32 female, for two weeks. And I think we've been dating for 10 years and never realized it.

[B]

Wow. Okay. One of those.

[A]

So me and Sophie have been best friends since, like, the first grade. She was my next door neighbor growing up. We went to the same college and got jobs in the same city, and we've been roommates since we were like, 25. So typing this up almost feels like we've been in a couple all along. But I've never really thought of her sexually since we were teenagers. She had a boyfriend at, like 17, and they were really in love with each other. And I was good friends with him, but unfortunately he passed like a week after we graduated high school. She was obviously a wreck, and I helped her as much as I could to get through it. And in the process, we Pretty much became inseparable. It's not like one of us was clinging to the other. It was completely mutual. We liked the same things, have the same interests, and did stuff together all the time. When she was having a hard time sleeping because of her boyfriend's passing, she asked to come over because she didn't want to be alone, and I, of course, was there for her. Eventually, we graduated college and decided to get the jobs in the same city. And eventually after that, we decided to move in together as roommates because we could save a ton of money and we were always hanging out together. Anyways. Now I realized that basically, I think we've been a couple, except we just didn't have sex. Of course she would have a guy over sometimes, but it was never really serious. And same with me. I dated a bit, but never really felt a connection with any of them. So about two weeks ago, we were watching wrestling like we do every week, and she started softly crying, and we were sitting, like, inches from each other on the couch. So of course I put my arm around her and I ask her if she's okay and if she needs to talk. Basically, she's been having a hard time finding a guy, and she's really upset. She's always been kind of thick, but now she's pretty chubby and says that attractive guys don't want to sleep with her anymore, so.

[B]

And hey, I heard about this thing called shreking, though, so you. You always got yours.

[A]

So I'm trying to be supportive and stuff, and I wasn't lying. I've always thought she was really pretty. So I said that's not true and that plenty of guys would love to sleep with her. She's not a prude or anything. And we've always made crude jokes to each other. And I said something like, quote, if we weren't best friends, I'd have been trying to fuck you for the past 10 years.

[B]

If we weren't best friends. If we just weren't, you know.

[A]

Dang. She gave me this look like I had just flipped a switch on a robot, and she was staring right into my eyes, and my brain is telling me to kiss her. So I did. We were making out for probably five minutes, and she had pulled my shirt off, and I'd pulled hers off. And then I think, oh, my God, what am I doing? So I stopped, and I'm like, whoa, we need to think about this. Are we sure we want to go down this road? We talk for, like, two minutes, and we basically decide, hey, we've been friends for 25 years and been through way worse together. And having sex one time shouldn't be an issue. It was by far the best sex I ever had.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

And now, since that time, we've had sex at least once every day. Sometimes every day.

[B]

Ooh. Okay.

[A]

Sometimes two or three times a day.

[B]

Wow. Come on. Stamina. Let's go.

[A]

We both realize we need to discuss this, but keep saying we'll discuss it tomorrow when we'll have more time, But I recognize we have to discuss it, like, soon. And I'm scared. I think I've realized that I've been madly in love with her this entire time, and that's why I never connected with any of the other women I've dated. And I'm really hoping it's the same for her. I think we both might have felt this way for a long time, and we're just finally realizing it. It just sounds so fucking crazy. Like, what the fuck is going on? Am I crazy? Am I getting my hopes up? If she doesn't feel the same way I do, how can I ever hang out with her again? What do I do? He's just panicking.

[B]

He's panicking. I mean, y' all been friends for close friends for so long. I mean, nothing will really change if you guys become a relationship. It doesn't really have to change much. I mean, sex now comes every day,

[A]

apparently three times a day.

[B]

Three times. Okay. I know. I feel like. I mean, I guess when you, like, turn a friendship into a relationship, there is that, like, obligation that kind of grows and all that stuff and that. Nervous about that stuff. But you guys have been so close for a while. Just go for it.

[A]

I'd say, guess what's the harm?

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Could it end badly? Maybe.

[B]

Maybe. But if you guys are friends and if you guys have been communicative for. I mean, probably not. If you guys are just figuring out your feelings now, you probably haven't been that communicative in a while. Oh, I don't know. Layers. Layers.

[A]

Do you think she likes him back,

[B]

or do you think she's, like, using him for sex or.

[A]

Well, I know some people can really separate it, and I know there's some people that, like, sex can just be sex. I have a hard time separating sex for me. I'm very like, if I'm having sex with you, I like you, so. And for him to be like, it's the best sex I've ever had. Like, there's definitely some chemistry there. Sexual chemistry, for sure.

[B]

Romantic chemistry. Maybe.

[A]

Yeah. So I'm like. I feel like there's a really good shot. She does like him back. And I'm like. I'm like, you probably don't even have a reason to be actually nervous.

[B]

Yeah, no reason to be nervous. I mean, she was crying next to you about, like, how she couldn't find a man. Maybe that was, like, her way of being, like, you know, like, oh, oh. You know, maybe that was her leaving hints.

[A]

I mean, that would be honestly kind of a play, because otherwise, like, you started crying during wrestling. Was it like watching people like, what about wrestling? Wwe, John Cena out there.

[B]

Like, you really bringing the tears out, you know?

[A]

Yeah, no, I read it the first time, and I. I read it as we were wrestling. I go. We were wrestling. There was a couple that like to do kung fu in their living room, though, and, like, really go at it. So I'm like, you never know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You never know. You never know. But I feel like you gotta just talk. Like, no more sex until you talk.

[B]

Yeah, like, talk about it.

[A]

Come on. Like, down to business, my guy. But I think this could end up really, like, soulmates. Do you believe in soulmates?

[B]

Maybe like a Disney happy ending, you know? Yeah, I do believe in soulmates.

[A]

So this could be it. There's a lot of comments on this one. Everyone is, like, very happy and hopeful. Someone goes, I think she's into you. Otherwise she probably wouldn't have slept with you multiple times. I suggest that you start taking her out on real dates. If she agrees and is receptive to cuddling and holding hands, she's definitely into you. And whenever you feel the timing is right, you can tell her what's in your heart and how you feel about her. Which is interesting. More of like, don't tell her yet.

[B]

Don't tell her yet. That's weird. Yeah. I mean, you guys have been friends. Just tell her.

[A]

See, I would say just tell her.

[B]

Just tell her.

[A]

Yeah, like, I'm really vibing with you. I'd actually like to try to start dating. Or do you. I guess, do you just start dating and then it just falls into that? But that's where I'm like, I think that could get even messier and you could get more fucked up. Because if you then start going on these dates and she's just like, this is my friend Tom just taking me out. And then you fall more in love.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Things get messy fast. Yeah. Just speak your feelings.

[A]

Yeah. Speak your truth.

[B]

K. Speak your truth.

[A]

OP does respond. I mean, like, we always cuddle. On the couch. And in college, when she would come to my dorm because she couldn't sleep, we'd sleep in my bed together. Just nothing sexual happened. I'm starting to think she spent 15 years trying to give me hints now.

[B]

Maybe. Probably. So I was saying, like, she was next to you on the couch crying be like, I can't find a man. I feel like that was very much a.

[A]

Hey, I'm starting to think you're right. Yeah, No, I think that really was like, God, I've done everything except cry. Like, no. I'm like, wait,

[B]

15 years later.

[A]

15 years later of hints. I've been oblivious before.

[B]

I'm pretty oblivious when people like me. I don't know unless you tell me right through my face.

[A]

Yeah, I think I'm like that because, like, a lot of times when I've liked people, they haven't liked me. So I've just kind of given up being the one that initiates. Like my husband, when we started going on dates, it took us, like, he was, like, so explicit. I thought he just wanted to be friends. Even though we met on hinge and we literally. We went to the nun, it was so scary. And I'm still sitting there. I'm just, like, freaked out. And all of a sudden, he puts his hand on my leg, and I'm like, oh. And in my head, I was still like, maybe he's just, like a friendly type of friend. But no, like, he didn't want to be friends. But, like, it took that for me

[B]

to be like, okay. Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. But I'm hopeful they have decided that they are gonna start going on actual dates. So OP is taking that person's advice and says, we're gonna go on dates. We do go on dates all the time. I just didn't realize they were dates like, dinner together, lunch, museums.

[B]

That's the youth nowadays. I was just talking about that to a friend. I'm like, people don't like, state like, this is a date anymore. You're kind of just like, oh, let's just go see a movie and then go get dinner. I'm like, is this a date or it's not a date. Someone a date or not. I like when a guy. I've been talking to a guy that's like, we're going on a date right now. I'm like, I love this. I'm not. I'm not used to this straightforwardness.

[A]

I appreciate that. Because then it's just like, Are you interested in me or not? Like. Like, set.

[B]

What's happening here? Like, what do. What do I. What should I expect? What's going on? You know?

[A]

Yeah. Did you have to communicate that, or was that just, like, on them and

[B]

they just, like, on them? Yeah. I was like, okay, take me on a date.

[A]

You know, that's. Yeah. That's so refreshing. Versus, like, are we. Aren't we? And, like, the beat around the bush of it all. I hate beating around a bush. Like, those bushes are big sometimes.

[B]

And, like, those bushes are massive.

[A]

You can't find your way around.

[B]

I'm lost.

[A]

I know. So we do get an update.

[B]

Okay. So they're married.

[A]

Mm. Yep. They're getting the minivan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're going down the altar, down the. Whatever aisle. The aisle. Soon. Update. So she got home and I told her we need to talk, and she seemed disappointed, so I was really bummed. Like, she looked like she wanted to cry.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

But I said, please, just let me say what I need to say, and then we can go from there. I told her that since we had started having sex, I realized I had been in love with her for a really long time, and I didn't realize it. And she started trying to hold back tears, and I got the worst knot in my stomach, and I thought I was literally going to puke. I told her it's okay if she doesn't feel the same. I would always be there for her as a friend, and I would try my best to not let my feelings get in the way. But now that it's out there, I guess there isn't any going back. She told me to stop, and she was crying now.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I stopped. And it felt like an eternity just sitting there. I couldn't even look her in the face. Then she just kind of wrapped her arms around me and buried her face in my chest and was sobbing. I'm just sitting there confused, trying to figure it out if this is good or horrible.

[B]

Hoping this is good. It sounds like it's good. I don't know. She seems like a crier.

[A]

Finally she looks up at me and says she's been waiting for me to say that since college. And that the reason she was crying with me on the couch the other week was because she thought it had been long enough and if it wasn't going to happen. And that's why she kept trying to put it off, having a talk after we started having sex, because she thought that that was the closest we'd ever come to being a couple. Oh, you clocked the crying.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the crying. It was there. The hint. The hint.

[A]

You knew it.

[B]

Aw, cute. Avril Lavigne song credits, you know?

[A]

Yeah. He ends it with, now we are waiting for our Chinese food to come. After some awesome sex

[B]

three times.

[A]

Thanks so much for the advice and getting me to finally say something. This guy is like the epitome of, like, my God, what is it? When, like, he. But he's not complaining about it, but he's like. You know when people are like, lobsters too buttery. Like, what? You know that. That. Oh, my God. It's like a really, like, big saying right now.

[B]

Lobster's too buttery.

[A]

Yeah, Lobster too buttery. Steak too juicy. Like, it's like people complaining about, oh,

[B]

my life is too good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Lobster too buttery. Bank account too full.

[A]

Like, waiting for our Chinese food after we f. Life is great, dog. I'm just like, dude, you could have just like, I get it. You're excited, but, like, you had to rub it in. Like, come on.

[B]

He wants everyone to know he's having sex. You know, he's a sex man. Okay.

[A]

I'm so happy for them, though. Oh, my gosh, this is wild. Did you see it coming? I mean, you clearly did. You knew the cry.

[B]

You cried very much. I was.

[A]

Knew that.

[B]

I was like, it's gonna have a happy ending.

[A]

You knew. But will our movie, One Night Only, have a happy ending? Will it?

[B]

Will it?

[A]

Will they?

[B]

Will it?

[A]

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[B]

I've been going to a lot of movies, so yeah, I will put it. I will reserve a spot.

[A]

We can go. We could do like a little group movie night. Ooh, I love a rom com. Popcorn too buttery. I'm ready. How you doing? You got one more in ya?

[B]

Yes, of course. I've been enjoying these.

[A]

I'm gonna give you a choice.

[B]

Ooh. Okay.

[A]

You get to pick option one. My partner confessed to me that she frequently fantasizes about settling down with her childhood friend that she's always had a crush on and proposed a hall pass arrangement. Or am I the asshole for telling my friend that her free wedding is unrealistic?

[B]

Free wedding.

[A]

Free wedding.

[B]

Free. What do you mean, free wedding?

[A]

I know as someone that planned a wedding, I cannot even imagine getting that for free.

[B]

Kind of want to hear that because I want to know what a free wedding is.

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Let's do it. We also had. We had a childhood best friend crush coming together. And I'm also like, you're engaged, but you're asking for a hall pass for your childhood best friend? Ma', am, you're with the wrong person.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Go with a friend. But okay, let's get into this wedding drama. This is coming from Aitah again titled Am I the asshole for telling my friend that her free wedding is unrealistic? I, 24, female, am a member of a friend group, in which one member, we'll call her Coral, 23, female, is getting married. She announced her engagement to her fiance, 25, male, a few weeks ago, and we are all happy for her. Over the weekend, though, she shared more specific plans for the wedding. And that's where things have kind of gone off the rails.

[B]

I want to hear about this wedding. Let's see.

[A]

She said she's been seeing a lot of people on TikTok and Instagram showing how to plan a free wedding. Weddings where the couple spends $0 aside from the marriage certificate fee, I guess.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

At first I thought she meant a city hall wedding, which would be completely fine. But then she got into the details and her expectations for the ceremony. She's going to try and find someone with a large outdoor space to use, not formally a wedding venue, who will donate their area in support of love. She is going to have all of her guests bring a potluck. Very specific assignments, though, and she will have a friend officiate, a friend do photography, a friend do the save the dates and invites, her family do the flowers, et cetera, including some harder to swing, in my opinion, things like getting a large tent, decorations, wedding favors, speakers, a band, et cetera. I'm not sure what her plan is for a dress.

[B]

Okay. Okay. So she has a lot. Okay. When I was thinking like, oh, free wedding without money, I was like, oh, someone's backyard. You got a friend of officiated. It costs like, what, $15 to become a wedding officiator person. Yeah. What's it called? Ordained minister. Cost about $15. I'm an ordained minister. I forget about that.

[A]

I'm. Or I can do it. I don't know if I'm ordained, but I did a class online.

[B]

Really? Okay. Yeah, it's just like a form you sign at the Universal Life Church.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I have the same one.

[B]

I was think.

[A]

Okay. Hey, we're ready.

[B]

Come on, colleague.

[A]

Hey, have you done one?

[B]

Um, I did it on. I went on a comedy tour in like 2018, and then two people during my, like, VIP meet and greet was like, you're. You. You're an ordained minister. Can you officiate us? I was like, yeah, sure. And they recorded it. They had a witness and I, I. Luckily I had my ordained minister's stuff. Cause it was like a whole joke on my tour that I was ordained minister.

[A]

I've been joking.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I have this certificate and everything. Like, we can actually make this real.

[A]

I've. I've been joking. I want this is what I want.

[B]

Really?

[A]

This is what I want, guys, when we go back on tour, this is what I want.

[B]

Yeah. Officiate a wedding. It's fun. Yeah. So officiated one wedding on the run. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. No, this girl's got a list, and it is extensive. It goes on to say, what's more is that Coral and her fiance really aren't poor. From what I can tell, she works as an accountant at a big company and her fiance does software sales. Plus his parents are loaded. It sounds like they just want to do the free wedding thing for the sake of it. That would be okay, but she is just shifting all of the costs onto other people, some of whom are probably less well off. She told me that she wants me to make the cake and then sent me some pictures for inspiration. The cakes were ridiculously elaborate. We're talking multi tier fondant flowers, gold leaf, and one even had a hand painted watercolor design. I'm not a professional baker. I just like to bake cookies and brownies sometimes. I told her that those cakes would probably take me days to make and they wouldn't come out anywhere near as good. She kind of just laughed it off and said, quote, oh, it's not about it being perfect. It's just about everyone pitching in. It'll be fun. I told her that fun or not, what she was describing was basically her friends and family subsidizing her wedding with time, money, and labor, and that it was kind of unfair to expect people to spend so much on her free wedding. Or else she was expecting everyone to show up to a lackluster event and just pretend it was amazing. It's like a group project that none of us wanted to do because we already graduated and moved on from all of that. I feel that so we don't need the credit. She does graduate a year later than the rest of us. I said that if she wants a free wedding, she should probably just elope or go to city hall because this isn't really free, it's just free for her. I might have been a bit more forceful in my wording, but I didn't swear or call her names or anything like that. She got super quiet and just looked at me for a minute or so and then left with another one of our friends driving her home. Later that night, I got a text from that friend saying that I really hurt Coral's feelings and that even if the plans were a bit unrealistic, I should have just let Coral come to that conclusion on her Own Coral then messaged me saying, quote, sorry, don't worry about the cake. With no more context, I'm feeling pretty bad now, especially since Coral was so happy and excited and she never really said anything to me. Perhaps I should have just gone along with the cake since she said she wouldn't be mad if it turned out badly. But I am worried that her wedding would not have been what she wanted. And I was also frustrated about the cake request. Am I the asshole?

[B]

I feel that. I feel that maybe she didn't, like, have high expectations. Maybe she was just, like, she thought it was a fun idea for everyone to come together and do this group project. But I feel like that will only make sense in my mind if, like, my grandparents were getting remarried and we made it like a. Oh, let's do a free wedding. Everyone come together as a family. And, like, we built this wedding together. But I can't imagine, like, a high school friend getting married and, like, expecting me to do all that for them. You know, That's a whole different scenario.

[A]

Well, and going back to her list, too, like, I've got prices for all this stuff. I literally. I did this. I did basically a backyard wedding, put up my own tent, hired a band, did decorations, did all this stuff, and just, like, just the band. $4,000 for a band.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, if you want a good band, it costs money. Like, unless you know a band. Like, you can call your brother and his friends up and be like, hey, will you perform at the wedding? Like, that's different. But I guess, like, should you have said something? I don't know. You really did shit in her Cheerios.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of. I don't think she was well at delivering her, like, how hardcore is her expectations? If the expectations were delivered, better being like, oh, you know, I don't care if it's just a Vons cake with a bunch of splatter on it, as long as you got, like, what I was, you know, trying to go. Then maybe she was like, okay, I'll just bake a cake and do whatever. But I think because she was setting, like, severe, like, serious hardcore wedding cakes, it probably was, like, I don't know.

[A]

Intimidating.

[B]

Yeah, intimidating.

[A]

I know. Because then, like, OP does be like, well, what I could do wouldn't be anything like this. And then sweet Coral, bless her heart, says, no, it doesn't matter what it looks like. Like, it can be bad. It's just, like, it's more about the thought. So then I guess OP should have taken that as like, she Just wants to do this. And, like, like, okay, cool. But I think then it's like, OP really was like, no, no, girl. Like, this is super unrealistic, and you're actually just, like, taking advantage of people and, like, subsidizing your wedding at everyone else's expense. Like, and literally expense money.

[B]

It is funny.

[A]

And so I'm like, ugh. Would you have said anything to your friend?

[B]

I feel like it just depends on the scenario. It depends on the friend and depends on what they expect and how close they. That's the whole thing. So I feel like, yeah, I don't know the connection fully.

[A]

I know. And OP even says here, like, I might have been a bit more forceful in my wording, but I didn't swear or call her names. And it's like.

[B]

So it's kind of like a stress response. You probably said something out of, like, the moment.

[A]

Yeah, I'm like, how forceful?

[B]

How forceful? Like, how.

[A]

How.

[B]

What did you say? How loud were you?

[A]

Yeah, How. How grrr. Did you get? Would I have said something? Probably not. Right then and there, if all I had to do was make a cake, I would have made the cake, and that counts as your gift. And it would have been a box cake. Like, I'm not. We're not doing this from scratch.

[B]

Like, it would have been a Vines cake. I just put a bunch of splatter on it.

[A]

Okay. The grocery stores are popping off on the cakes. Costco. Costco is popping off on the cakes. 14.99 For a beautiful cake. Really?

[B]

I haven't seen a Costco cake in a second.

[A]

I got my grandma one for her birthday. Okay, I'm gonna show you a picture. It was beautiful. And I just, like, I left a little note on it, and I was like, flowers, yellow. Happy birthday. And they. It was incredible. It was beautiful. I'm gonna have to insert a picture of the one I made for my grandma. Cause it's beautiful. No one has really good pictures online. Maybe that's why everyone doesn't know about Costco.

[B]

Yeah. Spread the gospel, you know, here and

[A]

now, I'm spreading the news. You know, a little. Little jingle. I literally can't find a good picture. But there are people that are trying new Costco cakes. But, like, here's one. Like, these are, like, their little happy birthday cakes, but you can do custom orders.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So you can do, like, flowers, specific colors, and again, 14.99.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Where are you getting that elsewhere?

[B]

I don't know. Costco? Yeah, Costco. I mean, 14.99 plus the membership, though.

[A]

But you know what I found out? If someone buys you a Costco gift card and they gift it to you, you don't need a membership. You use a gift card. No, no, no.

[B]

Loophole.

[A]

We're gonna fact check that just to be sure.

[B]

We're gonna have a bunch of people going to Costco with a gift card.

[A]

That girl from Too Hot Takes sent me here. But I'm pretty sure, like. Cause it's like they want you to come in. And I'm. I am. Right.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We fact checked. Thank you very much, Bailey. Like, you know, like, what a great sales method.

[B]

Good way to get in there. Get in the door. So, yeah, you still shop there without the membership. Ooh.

[A]

But this girl. I do think you might have been a little hard. But if you're close, this is something I would probably say to one of my friends. Would I have gone as pooping the Cheerios? No, no, no. Where do you think the comments are gonna go on this? What direction?

[B]

Um, probably say you're a bit. You're a bit harsh, I would think.

[A]

I feel like it could go either way. I. I haven't read any of them. I'm kind of nervous. Sorted by best comment right now. Top comment, almost 7k upvotes. Not the asshole.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She's in for a rude awakening. The first time she asked for a free party tent from someone. Those are expensive as fuck to rent. So I got a tent. It wasn't a tent. Should I show you a picture?

[B]

What was the tent? Was it like a. A tarp? A tarp over a frame.

[A]

So. So I say tent. It was not a tent. It was a structure. So it had aluminum steel beams that. Each beam weighs like 5,000 pounds. It was not a tent. But it's technically a tent, you know, but it's not.

[B]

So you bought a building.

[A]

So I did get quotes for rentals of these because I. I thought like the. The circus top tents were beautiful, but like, I was getting married late September. I knew it was gonna be cold, so I needed sides. And I just didn't like the look of what I was working with. So I wanted this structure looking tent. And I got quotes. And for what? I wanted to rent it one day, one time. $124,000.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I ordered one myself. Alibaba.com.

[B]

okay.

[A]

Was it a terrifying experience? Yes. I had to wire thousands of dollars to Singapore. Just no idea if I'm gonna get anything. But it arrived.

[B]

I have to wait like two months for it to come.

[A]

Three months.

[B]

Three Months.

[A]

But it rolled up in a shipping container in a big ass crate, and it turned out pretty good.

[B]

Oh, wow. Oh, I did not expect this. Oh, that's beautiful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. Alibaba.

[A]

Alibaba. I know.

[B]

Now you know.

[A]

Now you know. But this, I mean, this is still tens of thousands of dollars. You're not getting that for free. Regular tent rental. I did get quotes on that for the three big post circus top looking tent. The nice white ones. 14,000.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So unless you have a family friend that owns a tent business, you're not

[B]

going to get it for cheap.

[A]

You're not getting it for cheap. Like, it is actually a lot of times cheaper to find a wedding venue that has a building already established than a random ass field to put up a tent. Like, I have a friend that rented a venue for, like, 5,700.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Like, that's not bad in terms of wedding stuff. Again, I just said the band was 4K. We're not even gonna talk about flowers. My flower gal was amazing, but the flowers.

[B]

Flowers get expensive.

[A]

Flowers was more than food.

[B]

Mm. Were you, like, flowers on every table? Okay, that's where you went wrong. See that?

[A]

Yeah. I had flowers everywhere.

[B]

Come on. Wow.

[A]

Yeah. So this is my flowers.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. See, that's thousands, right? Can I say that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Thousands of dollars worth of flowers right there.

[A]

I recognize I'm very privileged. Like, that was a beautiful fucking wedding. It was. It's mind blowing. Like, it's absolutely beautiful. Can you do stuff on a budget? Can family and friends come in and order flowers from Costco or Trader Joe's and DIY it? Yes, you absolutely can get that on a diy.

[B]

But I wonder, like, did she really have strong expectations? Or she was like, I'm just gonna shoot for the stars and, like, see where I land. Was that where her mindset. I just depend on where her mindset

[A]

was, you know, you would have to, like, really clarify.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Because if she genuinely doesn't care, then, like, whatever. Just everyone give their best shot and we're good. And she will, I guess. Like, what that one friend was saying where the one friend was like, you should have just, like, let her find it out on her own. You shouldn't have been so hard on her. Like, I think that is very, very true. She's gonna reach out for tents, for a venue, for a band, for food. Well, no, she's doing a potluck. That sounds horrible. Like, I just want to go to a wedding and have fun. If I got to bring Guac. Okay, whatever. That's not bad. But like a.

[B]

Popcorn, Hawaiian rolls.

[A]

And you know, I could cover those. Yeah, I could cover those for sure. But, like, I think she would find out quickly the reality of, like, it's not happening.

[B]

Trying to make that happen without money.

[A]

Yeah. How do you determine in life when you need to be the bearer of bad news? Cause sometimes I'm really bad at that.

[B]

I am too. I don't know. I mean, in that situation, I wouldn't say anything. It's your wedding, you know, you, Your wedding, your consequences. I would feel that way, but I'm

[A]

also autistic to where I would, like, feel like I need to say something because that's just the reality. And I'm just like, oh, my God, keep it in, keep it in. A lot of people keep going down the thread of like, I wanted to do a cheap wedding. As we were in grad school and our families couldn't help much, I rented a park shelter in a very nice park for 50 doll dollars. My parents brought basically barbecue. My mother in law built a cupcake tower. I made fake flower centerpieces. Bridesmaids picked their own dresses. Grooming got a matching tie and wore their own clothing. Then we had a cabin for people to hang out in after my friend officiated. We did that two weeks earlier, but that was it. It is possible to do a wedding pretty cheaply. It is not possible to do a fancy wedding for free.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

And then a lot of people just go and share. They're like, I did my wedding for total under $2,000, which is amazing. A lot of people are like, it takes a lot of volunteers and family to do that though.

[B]

Yeah, it takes a lot of work. It takes a lot of. You got to know, are you like, well connected with these people? You're asking, like I said before, like, if it was my grandparents getting married, I'm like, yeah, I'll go all in for that. But it was just like a friend from high school. I'm like, no, I'm not gonna. I will buy you Yvonne's cake and you'll just enjoy it.

[A]

Yeah. A lot of people say, not the asshole. Your friend is also embarrassing herself. Guests are not beneficiaries and employees. Coral is being tacky, and I honestly have secondhand embarrassment for her. I think a realistic discussion about this is akin to letting her know that she has spinach in her teeth. Oh, my God.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

I'm like, I don't know. Now I'm like, I'm starting to feel really bad for Coral.

[B]

I am too.

[A]

She is only 23.

[B]

Okay, there, I've missed that part.

[A]

Like Coral's only 23.

[B]

So young and ambitious. Okay.

[A]

Family has probably been, you know, paying for her up until this point.

[B]

Freshly out of college, you know.

[A]

Also, you don't know how much a wedding costs until you get into it. Like there is a big sticker shock there. So maybe she's just like blissfully unaware and has these high hopes and ideals. And again, maybe she truly doesn't care how good or bad something is. She just wants her people to come together and feel the love so she

[B]

can make a little Instagram reel for it, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I did my wedding for free.

[B]

I did a zero wedding.

[A]

I feel bad for Coral. So OP does have an edit. Honestly, I feel a bit bad now. Coral really is a sweet person who is just a bit naive. I feel like a lot of people in the comments are tearing her up more than she deserves. She has always been the baby of the group and I just got frustrated and ranted on this case. I don't know what the fiance thinks about all of this. That's true too. There's a whole nother person.

[B]

Yeah. There she is getting married to somebody. Uh huh.

[A]

And his family is loaded as OP said. So I don't think they're gonna have to worry about free. Not free. Yeah, I think it's gonna work out just fine for Coral and I would actually. Coral, if you're out there listening, I'd like to come. I'd like to see.

[B]

I want to see what happens.

[A]

I would like to see. We could go. Coral reaches out.

[B]

We'll be part of the TikTok.

[A]

We will be there. We will be there. There are two updates.

[B]

Oh no. Oh yes. I don't know you guys.

[A]

I literally had my computer shut. If you are listening on audio. My computer was shut. I was gonna be like, thank you so much for listening. So long, farewell. Oh my God.

[B]

Did it happen? Did it happen?

[A]

Update. My last post sort of blew up. I really didn't think so many people would be that interested in my silly friend. Group drama short recap. My friend Coral, free wedding. Yada yada yada. After reading the comments, I honestly began to feel bad for Coral. She really is a kind hearted person, but a lot of people interpreted her as an insane, entitled bridezilla. That's really not the case. I decided I was going to make the cake and I sent her an apology text to which I didn't get any reply. That was Making me feel really anxious. I still didn't think that Coral's requests were that reasonable and wasn't expecting the wedding to go fully to her plans. But that's not for me to worry about. Finally, I got a message from Coral's fiance, who we'll call Basil. Basil, however you want to say it, asking to meet up. I said yes. My expectation going into this was that Basil would tell me how much I hurt Coral's feelings, and I was going to reiterate my apology and share some research and planning that I had done on the cake. That is not how it went, though.

[B]

Ooh. Ooh.

[A]

As it turns out, the whole free wedding thing was Basil's idea. That's not the impression I got before. Basil didn't at first explain why he wanted to do it, but when pressed, it sounds like it's so he could spend the money that he and Coral had been saving up for their wedding on something else.

[B]

Oh. Not honeymoon.

[A]

Not a honeymoon. A boat.

[B]

Okay. Come on, straight men, let's go.

[A]

A Catalina 27, apparently. Very useful and practical thing to have when you're living in the city, especially if your fiance gets seasick.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

We did one of those river cruise things a while back, and she had a bad time. Basil says he'll help her get over that. And sailboats are different. Anyways, after my whole outburst, Coral has apparently been having second thoughts about the free wedding thing. Basil asked me to talk to her, apologize, and tell her that it isn't a bad idea after all. He basically said that I owe it to him to help clean up the mess that I caused. Basil.

[B]

No. Basil. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

I'm. I'm not. No, no. I'm not getting involved in your relationship.

[B]

That's crazy. Just so you can buy a boat. A boat for yourself. What's a Catalina? Is that the one? Is that like a speedboat or.

[A]

It is a sailboat.

[B]

A sailboat. Okay.

[A]

I mean, it looks pretty nice.

[B]

Okay. That's what I thought when you. When I heard of Catalina. Okay.

[A]

It's got one big mast, two sails that.

[B]

I've seen those in the marina pop up.

[A]

It's nice for a day, but, you know, there's a saying about boats. I'm from Minnesota. Land at 10,000 lakes. A lot of people try to have a boat.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

There's two really good days with boat ownership. The day you buy it and the day you sell it.

[B]

Okay? Boats are just a lot to handle,

[A]

a lot to manage. A little problematic. They break, they have issues. Goes on to say, I don't feel great about that, though. Apologizing, cleaning up the mess. I don't want to drive a wedge between Coral and Basil, but telling her I think it's a good idea after all of that just feels like lying. And I guess actively advocating for a potential train wreck is a further line for me than just agreeing to play my assigned voluntold baker role. Moreover, this was my first real conversation with Basil, and I have to say, I'm not totally convinced he's a great person. I don't know if he has exactly manipulated her into going along with this, but it kind of feels that way. So what do I do? It's been a little while now since I talked to Basil, so I really do need to do something. But do I do what Basil asked or further involve myself in the drama by telling Coral I don't think that the wedding or entire marriage is a good idea? So you went from telling her her free wedding is bad to, you need to break up?

[B]

Yeah. Wow. Just make the cake at this point. Just make the cake. Put your head down and keep on going.

[A]

Just keep trudging along.

[B]

See no evil, have fun with your boat. I guess. I don't know.

[A]

Hear no evil, speak no evil like that. No. I think Coral is gonna figure out that Basil is a bad boy. Or you know what? She will fall into that divorced under 30, hot girl, glow up category. Like, I have a bunch of friends from college that literally, like, live by this mentality of, like, getting divorced before 30 was the best thing to happen to me. Like, they are thriving after, like, a bad first marriage.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I kind of, like. I kind of of. I see it. Like, you knocked one out. Now you can, like, you know, go again. Yeah. Like, you know what you want. Your radar is in, and now you're gonna be more locked in and ready. And, like, you know, I see it. I see it. So I think you gotta let Coral. Coral figure it out.

[B]

Yeah, let Coral. Coral.

[A]

Let her. Let her do her thing. Mm.

[B]

Yeah. I would just keep it pushing at that point. Yeah, let her. Let Coral. Coral. At the end of the day, let her figure it out.

[A]

People on the update just say, not the asshole. I would be a good friend and tell her the truth that you do think the free wedding idea is foolish. But ask her to explain more about what she thinks about Basil and the boat. Let her talk it out herself. She may be already starting to see Basil for who he is. Mm.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

And op just kind of responds to people like, that sounds like reasonable advice. Like, I should meet up, I should talk. I should be a supportive friend. And then, the final update in this saga. Hi again. Finally posting this update. Hey, how y' all doing? I was finally able to get in touch with Coral and talk to her one on one. The first thing I did was just ask her how she's doing. Apparently not well.

[B]

Ooh.

[A]

She's now fully aware that the whole free wedding thing really was her fiance's idea. And he had mentioned the boat in passing as something he wanted to save up for, but hadn't at all framed it directly as the thing he really wanted to spend the wedding money on, as he did when he told me Coral didn't even know. All right, okay, maybe he thought that that would make me think he's cool or something. Or he thought having a specific goal in mind would make me more likely to support the idea. Anyways, it's not just the wedding planning that has made Coral upset. Apparently, Basil, who is into boats, I guess, has been spending more and more time at the marina that's 78 minutes away. Carl quoted the exact number. Lots of time. He doesn't even spend that much time out on the water. He just hangs out with everyone there and has been spending less and less time at home. He also keeps talking about Grace, who, as had to be explained to me, is a boat rather than a woman. Okay, parentheses. Fortunately. Fortunately, Carl said that she's been invited to the club a few times, but has never really felt like she was a part of it. When she brought that up to Basil, he said he also feels that way because they don't own their own boat. I don't think it's the same at all. Even if Grace isn't a person, Coral is feeling jealous. Last night, Coral brought up the wedding plans with Basil again, and she said that she thinks she wants to wait and sort some stuff out. Basil didn't get angry or anything. He actually said that he understood, but also asked if that meant that they could spend some of their wedding savings since they would have more time to save up again. He wants to buy the boat that broke Coral, which might be why she finally agreed to meet with me. I know it makes me kind of a jerk, but to be entirely honest, I'm just glad that Coral is talking to me again. I told her to break up with Basil.

[B]

Oh, all right.

[A]

She's thinking about it, but I'm scared she won't. I kind of want to offer to do it for her, but that would be silly.

[B]

That would be crazy. That would be insane.

[A]

Girl, you just gotta butt out. Butt out. We've all had that friend where we don't like their boyfriend or their partner or.

[B]

So, okay, so Basil was hanging out at the marina with a bunch of boat people without a boat. And that's why he wants a boat.

[A]

Yeah, he wants to fit in.

[B]

Okay. He wants to fit in.

[A]

He wants to fit in with the boat bag.

[B]

And that's expensive, like, getting a boat. Especially, like parking at a marina. Like, there's rent for that and the boat slip.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder how much the Catalinas go for. I'm very curious because, like, also, what? A little, like, shit, too. Like, we should do a free wedding. And then he wants to buy a boat. So seeing some prices on older Catalina 27s, seeing 10,000, 19,000.

[B]

I was gonna say about, like, 15,000 is the average for, like, a used one. I will say.

[A]

Yeah. An old one from 1981, that's about 6,000. But those could need a complete restoration. Like, that thing might not even be able to float, most likely, like, so, buddy, you're gonna need that for the wedding. But I actually. I don't know if there's gonna be a wedding. Oh, my God. Some of these sailboats are 300k.

[B]

Yeah. Boats get expensive.

[A]

I'm not a boat. I love going on a boat, but I never want to own a boat.

[B]

I can never own a boat.

[A]

No. Thank you. I am like.

[B]

That was delicious. I enjoyed every single one of these stories.

[A]

Thank you so much for coming on.

[B]

Thank you for having me.

[A]

Your energy was so fun, so contagious. Thank you. I'm obsessed with you and your content, which. Where can people find you? Where can they go? Watch.

[B]

You can find me anywhere if you search. Mac does it. It's all one word on everything.

[A]

On everything.

[B]

A fully branded diva.

[A]

Yes. All of Max links will be in the description. Super easy to find. You go down, click, show notes. Click, click, click and go. Subscribe. Watch the content. It is so, so funny. I'm again obsessed.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

That's all we got. So until next time, friends. Bye.

[B]

Adios.