The second half of our discussion on Winter, sixty seconds of Mark E. Smith mumbling about drinking while “drowning in a sea of Boddingtons”, and over a hundred minutes of discussion on things that are decidedly not the Fall.

SCENARIO: A Fall superfan discovers a brand new podcast about their favorite band. Better yet, there’s two whole episodes and over THREE HOURS of discussion on their favorite song, Winter from the 1981 masterpiece Hex Enduction Hour. They subscribe, pop open their podcatcher and are utterly baffled by sound collages, lengthy descriptions of a deranged Seinfeld episode that sound like a fever dream, and stories about blacking out from drinking in Buffalo in the mid 00’s. No, sir, this isn’t your grandmother’s Fall podcast (though I heard that’s pretty good, too), this is Two Librans; the intersection of comics, astrology, Patti Smith’s poetry and The Fall. Only listen to this once a day. Your brain might be destroyed!

Our original plan for last week was to cover the entirety of the two-part song Winter, but like all good trains, it got derailed. Tom joked before that recording that we could discuss Winter 2 the following week, but that is exactly what happened. The boys wrap up the discussion with the help of some very lonely and bored men who loitered on the defunct Annotated Fall when it was still a going concern, and also talk about all sorts of other things. This one is a hoot, and we laughed at ourselves quite a bit while editing. Radical Self-Love, I think that’s what they call it.

MARK E. SMITH LIKES A BEER AND IS NOT ASHAMED

This week we’re treated to a damn-near incomprehensible monologue by our spiritual leader MES, where he proffers such invaluable truths as “You cannot be an alcoholic if you have your drink in the open”. Actually that’s about the only wisdom he provides, the rest is just typical kvetching about other bands and the media. And we wouldn’t have it any other way. 60 seconds of pure gold.

ALSO COVERED

Roman’s one-night-long stoner phase

Tom’s view at TCAF, 2017

Patti Smith staying relevant with youth culture

Emmanuel Macron staying relevant with youth culture

Roman’s comic about painting with children which was enjoyed by the stingy scum of Antwerp

Best museum for day drinking in Paris

Meeting Public Figures on Facebook Marketplace

The original crop from a couple years ago:

There were so many that at a certain point Roman just started copy-pasting the text instead of screenshotting:

Recent updates:

David Hockney sliding into Roman’s dad’s DMs 👍

Cow Tools

Roman’s first memory

Did Kramer impregnate a secondary character?

Roman may’ve misremembered a few things, but other people of the internet are on the same page:

Listeners, what do you think?

Also, was William Blake a nudist?

John “the Baptist” Cale

And once again, Brain Ticket

More Radical Self-Love

As always, links to Tom and Romans’s personal Substacks.

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5. Winter 2

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