Love, Lies, and Dating Disasters

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Sons and Me — “Love, Lies, and Dating Disasters” April 17, 2026
Host: Todd Chrisley
Guests: Chase Chrisley, Grayson Chrisley

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Two Sons and Me” dives into family dynamics, fatherly love, dating mishaps, generational parenting, and the raw, hilarious honesty that listeners have come to expect from Todd Chrisley and his sons, Chase and Grayson. Tackling everything from being the family favorite, parental "extra-ness," to the impact of past mistakes and lessons learned, the Chrisleys serve up unfiltered reality with plenty of side-splitting banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Who’s the Favorite, Really? (00:00–03:00)

• Todd playfully debates with his sons about favoritism in the family, denying that he has a favorite child but admitting he loves each differently.
• Quote:
  • Todd: “I love each of my children in a different way because each of y’all bring something different to the table.” (01:10)
• Chase and Grayson tease each other about being the favorite, adding, “I'm Mom's favorite” (00:51, Grayson) and discussing who would be saved first in a shipwreck scenario.

Dad Was Right…Or Just Extra? (04:00–10:56)

• Todd introduces a regular segment: was he “right” or “extra” in various aspects of parenting.
• The boys agree: Todd’s penchant for over-involvement, especially in their dating lives, crosses into “extra” territory.
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Chase: “With the people that I've dated, they've never gotten a clean cut, fair shot.” (06:03)
  • Todd: “Chase, you’ve dated strippers.” (06:09)
  • Chase: “I’ve never dated a stripper!” (06:11)
  • Todd: “One of them home—that was for TV. You screwed her after shot.” (06:16)
• The ribbing continues around the boys’ dating histories, with Todd framing it as deep parental concern and the boys seeing it as interference.

College and Coming of Age (11:12–13:24)

• Todd quizzes Grayson about college experiences he’s kept secret, prompting defensive and embarrassed laughter but mostly good-natured dodging.
• Chase: “No, my shit's out there.” (12:13)
• The conversation pivots to how Todd’s parenting style evolved, with Chase noting Todd became more patient and calm with Grayson than he was with the elder siblings.

Reflections, Regrets, and Parenting Hindsight (13:24–18:30)

• Todd asks his sons what he could have done better as a father. Chase wishes he listened more and “just wasn’t so on,” acknowledging Todd’s fear-driven vigilance.
• The group explores how growing up changed their understanding of Todd’s choices, paralleling “growth as a man” with shifts in parenting tactics.
• Insightful Moment:
  • Grayson: “The older I got, the more I understood a lot of stuff—like why you did certain things.” (13:01)
  • Chase: “I think you’re like… your perspective on what’s really important changes.” (13:56)

Lessons to Younger Selves (15:01–16:08)

• Todd asks what advice his sons would give their younger selves. Chase says to “slow down, live in the moment, don’t go down the rabbit hole with partying…save money.” (15:23)
• Grayson humorously deadpans: “Buy bitcoin.” (16:00)

Vulnerability, Impactful Family Moments, and Heart-to-Hearts (19:07–25:12)

• Emotional high points include stories of family conflict and reconciliation.
  • Grayson reminds Todd after a cold-shoulder incident: “Dad, we have lost two days of not speaking to each other, and that’s time we never get back. If you would just sit down and talk to me.” (19:58)
  • Todd reflects: “He broke me right there in the bed. I mean, he broke me…I will never do that again.” (20:04)
• Todd shares how seeing Savannah vulnerable in public helped him realize the importance of letting down one’s guard to experience both love and potential heartbreak.

Chloe & Family Individuality (25:12–26:38)

• Todd celebrates each child’s unique traits, joking that Chloe “can literally ice you out and forget your name and how you’re genetically tied.” (25:32)
• He recognizes the different kinds of love he holds for each child, “a different love” shaped by expanding his heart with every new relationship.

Odd Stories and Camp Friends (26:38–29:25)

• The family laughs over new friends Todd made during his incarceration (“camp”), especially the story of a woman jailed for “selling hot dogs at a fight for charity.” (28:15)
• Reflections on meeting “solid guys” behind bars and how those friendships now enrich the wider family’s life.

Pettiness, Fishing for Information, and the Chrisley Way (31:09–35:11)

• The trio dives into Todd’s “pettiness” and his investigative skills (“master fisherman”) for family secrets.
• Hilarious Call-Outs:
  • Chase: “You get even. You get more than even.” (31:33)
  • Grayson: “Can we get him a history of call? Didn’t you call, like, Nancy Grace or somebody, a fat cow or something?” (31:59)
  • Todd: “If I am a fisherman, I am a master fisherman because I am constantly putting it mounting and putting on the wall.” (34:35)

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Notable Quotes

• "I love each of my children in a different way because each of y’ all bring something different to the table." (Todd, 01:10)
• “With the people that I've dated, they've never gotten a clean cut, fair shot…they haven't had a fair shot.” (Chase, 06:03)
• “My boys, if they get a piece of tail, they're in love. They looking for rings, about to put tattoos all over their dick and everything else to say, I'm yours, baby.” (Todd, 08:06)
• “Dad, we have lost two days of not speaking to each other, and that’s time that we never get back.” (Grayson, 19:58)
• “I knew I could not fix you. That had to come from within...” (Todd, 21:35)
• “If I am a fisherman, I am a master fisherman.” (Todd, 34:35)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Favorite Child and Family Love: 00:00–03:00
• Dad Was Right or Extra (Parenting Styles): 04:00–10:56
• College Life Secrets & Comparing Siblings: 11:12–13:24
• What Would You Change About Dad: 13:24–15:23
• Advice to Younger Selves: 15:23–16:08
• Most Impactful Family Moments: 19:07–21:25
• Learning from Savannah (Vulnerability): 22:30–23:23
• Chloe’s “Icy” Approach: 25:12–26:38
• Incarceration Stories & New Friends: 26:38–29:25
• Family Pettiness & Master Fishing: 31:09–35:11

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Unfiltered Honesty: No subject is too taboo; the Chrisleys pull no punches with each other.
• Laughter Through Hardship: Even painful or embarrassing topics are mined for humor.
• Parental Love, Evolving: Todd’s approach to fatherhood reflects growth, error, and heart.
• Sibling Rivalry: Teasing, accusations of favoritism, and playful jabs abound.
• Self-Reflection: There are real lessons in vulnerability, regret, and the value of open communication.

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Memorable Moments

• Todd accusing Chase of dating strippers and Chase’s indignant refutations.
• Grayson’s calm confrontation that ended the family’s cold war.
• The group ragging on each other's dating choices and Todd’s “overbearing” love.
• The running joke that Todd is a “master fisherman” for family secrets, culminating in pledges to make this a new segment.

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This episode showcases the Chrisley family’s signature blend of sharp wit, loving roast sessions, and heartfelt admissions. It’s a candid look at the messiness and beauty of family life, proving that sometimes the tea really is hotter after the cameras are off.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to two sons and me. I have my son Chase, otherwise known as the baby of the family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then I have my son, Grayson, otherwise known as the servicing of the community of the family. How are you today, Chase?

[C]

That's more him than me.

[A]

I. I have you on my mind. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you're my favorite.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He's the one that's nobody's favorite.

[A]

He's my favorite. I love him.

[B]

No, you don't.

[A]

No, No, I love him.

[C]

But I love him as much as you love others.

[B]

Yeah, we can all agree on that.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

I don't believe that.

[A]

You do believe it.

[B]

Right hand to God, I do not believe.

[A]

Well, that's because you choose not to. Then. That's. That's on you.

[C]

I'm Mom's favorite.

[A]

I have never one time made a difference between any of y', all, nor have I ever said. What are you laughing at?

[B]

Let's just cut the shit. I'm not your favorite or Mama's favorite. That's not it. That's mama's. Savannah's, yours. That's how it is.

[A]

It's not true. I love each of my children in a different way because each of y' all bring something different to the table. Savannah is a very calming factor for me because I know that if something needs to be done, she's going to get it done. Grayson is the baby of the family, the typical baby, and he allows me to still baby him. You bring me. You bring me humor.

[B]

Yeah. I'm a circus headache. I'm a circus animal for you.

[A]

No, you give me laughs. You have a very tender heart, which has gotten you in a lot of trouble because your. Your heart is soft, and Grayson has soft. Oh, my God. Folks, listen. I love all of my children in a different way because they all bring something special to that table.

[B]

If we're on. On a boat, there's life jackets, all

[A]

of y', all, to swim. I taught every one of you, okay?

[B]

If we can't swim, he's gonna make. And you can only save two people, and it's me, Savannah, and Grayson you're saving.

[A]

Savannah will swim if you.

[D]

If you can.

[A]

I'm gonna say the weakest one. So you got it?

[B]

No, you got it. I'm a better swimmer than both of them.

[A]

That is true. That is true. But Grayson, all I would have to say to him is, are you gonna let Chase out swim you? So then he's going to be okay. So. That's not the point of this. So then I Might have to save Savannah because she is the weakest swimmer.

[C]

He said that I'd swim across the ocean before I stopped.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That wasn't the point of the question, Grayson. The point of the question was.

[C]

I understand you love the question.

[A]

I don't love them more.

[B]

It's fine.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

We're not gonna sit here.

[C]

It is the truth. Don't let him lie to you. I know you're not Dad's favorite. You're not Mom's favorite. That's okay. You just need to accept that.

[B]

Your papa's favorite. And when I win that mega million, I'm gonna run.

[C]

You've been winning this mega million for the past.

[B]

It's about time.

[A]

Every day with this one right here.

[B]

It's every three days.

[A]

I've got to run up the store. I got to run up store. And all I do is laugh. I told your mama, I said, I hope he wins this damn lottery more than anything. I said, so that way, if nothing else, we never have to hear about it again.

[C]

You know, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than you do a winning lottery.

[B]

I would let. I would get struck by lightning in order to win the lottery, Grayson.

[A]

Well, you walk on. You walk on there and get your lottery ticket with running down your legs and stuttering.

[B]

If I would win, I would be in there getting it. I don't care. Dumb to win that. Yeah, you could do some. I would. You could do some filthy things, some bad things to me.

[A]

So, listen, let's. You know, this is our new podcast. So, you know, I want to make sure that, because we're kind of getting our footing here and figuring out what it is we're going to talk about each week and how we're going to handle this. So we've come up with a couple of categories that I think that we should focus on every week, and one of those is, dad was right or dad was extra.

[B]

That's another word for wrong, which is you have been before.

[C]

He can't pronounce.

[A]

I don't remember that.

[B]

Well, that's what it means.

[A]

I don't remember ever being wrong. There was that one time. 19 and 89. But will not go there. So do I want to ask each and every one, each of y', all, chase, what do you think over the course of me raising you as your dad? That I was right on or that I was extra?

[B]

We gotta have some examples.

[C]

Yeah. It's hard to just go from, okay,

[A]

well, then let's just say was I Right about your dating life.

[B]

Or was that extra with certain people? But you. You're definitely extra.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I feel like you're right and extra.

[B]

So I can be right with certain situations.

[C]

Sometimes you're just an about it.

[A]

Yeah, but not to you.

[C]

No, he is to me, too.

[A]

But see, y'. All.

[C]

I just ignore.

[A]

But see, y' all think that I run it, that I talk about what y' all say, and he knows it

[C]

pisses me off, because he'll say something and I'll be like, all right, love you.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Okay, give an example of that.

[C]

You just say, like, unnecessary stuff.

[A]

Okay, then say it, because that would mean that I'm extra. So then say it.

[B]

I would say extra. I would say.

[C]

I would say extra, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For what? Just the one thing.

[B]

For, like, the. In my dating life? Yes, I think you've been extra.

[A]

Okay, give me some examples.

[B]

I don't think with the people that I've dated, they've ever gotten, like, a clean cut, fair shot.

[A]

Chase, you've dated strippers.

[B]

I've never dated a stripper.

[A]

One of them home.

[B]

That was for tv.

[A]

You screwed her after shot.

[C]

Yes, you did.

[A]

Yes, you did.

[B]

Mother of God. No, I didn't. Left hand of God.

[A]

You brought that crazy Spanish up here that I had to throw out. That went over and threw all your dishes out in the floor. Dump trash.

[B]

Okay, I'm not saying that my track record is the best, but I was also 20 years old. But, like, there have been some good ones in between the bad ones.

[A]

I only know of one.

[B]

No, there was two and two.

[A]

There was two out of at least 200.

[B]

Well, whatever. I didn't bring all the other ones home.

[A]

No, I got messages on Instagram about them.

[B]

Oh, well, all these messages. He gets all those messages. Can kiss my ass. I'm just saying I think that you've been extra on that. Like, the good ones that I have dated, they haven't had a fair shot. And I feel like I gave the

[A]

one a fair shot. I gave the one a fair shot because she was pretty.

[B]

Listen, every other. My siblings can date all these different people, and they don't. They. They do not get walked through the gates of hell the way that I do.

[A]

Grayson, he just said that I give him all this shit. And then you chime Dan and said, oh, no, he says certain things. And I was like, by I love you, what are you referencing? I don't know if y' all gonna come on here and talk.

[B]

I have said it.

[C]

You know what I mean? Like, it's not certain things. It's the way he says, okay, but whenever. And you're just like, all right, I'll talk to you later.

[A]

Oh, then do it. How do I say it?

[C]

Not that it's like, I'll. I'll tell them, like, something good that happened. And he goes, training wheels. I'm like, why you got to reply with that?

[A]

Because, folks, listen, my boys, if they get a piece of tail, they're in love. They looking for rings. That's not to put tattoos all over their dick and everything else to say, I'm yours, baby. So folks, they want to sit here, they fall in love every other day. So when I say training wheels, I'm saying that you are 19 years old. You're. You might fall in love today, but you're going to fall out of love by next semester or the semester thereafter because you're in college. I didn't send you to Bama to find a bride. I sent you to Bama to get an education.

[B]

But if he finds one, then you

[C]

knock out two birds.

[B]

Is a possibility of him finding someone.

[C]

Luke Bryan and his wife met at the blue room bar in Statesboro.

[A]

So now we're comparing you to Luton, Caroline.

[C]

No, I'm just saying that's where they met. That's a good example. They met in college.

[B]

So, like, a lot of people do find their significant other in college.

[A]

Where are you gonna find yours? You're out of college. You're done.

[B]

Yeah, well, no, no, girl.

[C]

Not everybody finds theirs in college.

[B]

Not everybody does. But, I mean, it's a possibility.

[A]

Well, the possibility that you could have found yours in a strip club. No, no Star or rain or moon or dream or whatever them stage names are you.

[B]

I didn't even go to the strip club trying to, like, hook up with trippers. I would take girls to the strip club and teach them how to throw money on them.

[A]

Why would a girl that would.

[B]

I'm not dating them. I'm not dating any of those girls. And you're talking about when I was 21. That was almost a decade ago.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Almost a decade ago. And one thing I never done is get an ugly broad pregnant.

[A]

We don't know that. We don't know that or not.

[B]

Yeah, we do. They would already came calling. I would have gotten invoiced.

[A]

So again, let's go back to the topic. I was right or I was extra.

[B]

Extra.

[A]

So you're saying that I was extra when it came to who you dated to, sir?

[B]

Well, yeah, to certain people. You both, I think You're. You were right about certain ones, but

[A]

I don't think I was 5050. Well, I think I have a much higher rating than a lot of the

[C]

time, but I think you're extra a

[B]

lot of the time, but you're not always right.

[A]

But you're mild.

[C]

Sometimes you're right and extra.

[A]

Now we agree that my extra is generated because of how much I love y' all and that I don't want y' all going through the same. Some of the same shit I went through.

[B]

I'm gonna need you to let less.

[A]

I got you, boo.

[B]

Just in that part.

[C]

So happy you said that.

[B]

Just.

[A]

You don't get to select. Have me loving you.

[B]

L. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do.

[D]

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[A]

So let me ask you this. Since you're in college, what has been the one experience that you have had that you don't want that you. That I don't know about and that you were hoping that I wouldn't find out?

[B]

Don't say that. Don't say that.

[A]

He didn't do sex with a dude.

[C]

That has never happened, Chase.

[B]

No, but if I can get a power box, if I get a power

[C]

sit here and incriminate myself, well, folks,

[A]

I can tell you. Let's just talk about the elephant in the room. And neither have I. So do you want to tell me one thing that you've done that no. You're hiding?

[B]

I don't think he's hiding.

[C]

It's just not really necessary for you. No.

[A]

Gotcha. Chase, what is one thing in your life that you have done that I don't know about?

[B]

No, my shit's out there.

[C]

I told you something.

[A]

I did.

[C]

But they could.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

You know all. Everything pretty much.

[A]

Do I know everything pretty much. Okay. All right, so let me ask you. What is the one thing in your life growing up that you feel I could have been a better dad with?

[B]

This is setup.

[A]

It's not a setup. It's just a question.

[B]

Like when I was young.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

I think probably just listening more instead of being so, like, on. You know what I mean?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But you were on. Cuz you were. I guess you were afraid of what could happen.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't want anything bad to happen to you.

[B]

You.

[C]

I don't know. The older I got, the more I understood a lot of stuff. Like why you did certain things.

[A]

Do you feel like. Well, let me ask you. Because, Grace.

[C]

No, because I see other people, like, other kids whose parents just, like, go, do whatever, throw their hands up, and I don't care. And I'm like, if I ever did my. That beat mine.

[A]

Let me ask you this. Do you think that Grayson. That I have brought him up differently than you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In what way?

[B]

Well, I think that just comes with, like, growth. Like, you change as a man, like, the older you get. And I think you probably, like, you realize some. Some of the stuff didn't work with us, so you just changed that with him.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And definitely more patient, calmer.

[A]

Right. Well, I think that comes, like you said, comes with age and with experience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, I mean, you know, there were.

[B]

I think you're like, your perspective on what's really important changes.

[A]

I can. Yes, I will agree with that, because I can say that after 28 months at camp, it taught me really, about what matters the most and to not sweat the small stuff. So. Yeah, you're right. So what do you think? Do you. Because you. You'll say, oh, my God, you let Chase do this, or if it was Savannah. So tell me, when you say that, what it is that makes you say that? Is that just the baby in you? That.

[C]

No, it's. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know how you could say that about me because I've literally gotten caught for everything that I've done, and I've gotten severely, severely punished for it.

[C]

I didn't really get anything bad, but

[A]

you really haven't done anything that I've caught you in just yet. But now that you refuse to answer that one question, it's caused me to

[C]

really think I answered on camera. That's for sure. This ain't a deposition.

[A]

Well, since you've decided to decline that one statement, that makes me think that I need to get my PI skills back up to par. If you were. Look, what. What advice would you give your younger self today? Let's just say, what would you say to your 15 year old chase, if you could talk to him today?

[B]

I would probably. I mean, I would definitely tell myself to just slow down, live in the moment. Definitely just don't go down the rabbit hole with partying. But I mean, I have had some, like, I do have some crazy memories and experiences, but I mean, at the end of the day, none of that was worth it. What it ended up costing me, it wasn't worth it. Save money.

[A]

What would you tell your. What would you tell your 10 year old self?

[B]

Buy bitcoin.

[C]

Yeah. I don't really know. I don't know.

[A]

Do you think the reason that you don't know is because your life experiences are different than his life experiences? Do you think that has something to do with it?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Best hair. Not to change the subject, but you have the best hair. Thank you.

[C]

Buckle up. Like, welcome to the show.

[A]

Because life is a show. Oh. Sometimes a shit show, as we well know.

[C]

No idea what was coming.

[A]

So let me ask you, what would you say if you could, and I'm giving you the opportunity, what advice would you give me at. Let's just say that I was. You were 15 years old. If you could have stepped out of yourself and talked to me to where you said you listen more, what would you have said?

[B]

I don't know. Just have like a calmer approach. Because I think that that that comes. That is better received than.

[A]

I learned that with Savannah, believe it or not, because yelling worked with y'. All.

[B]

Or maybe it didn't work with me. I just shut down.

[A]

Well, that's Savannah. Yeah, Savannah shuts down and you can see. I can literally see the light in her eyes. Like she did. It's like she closes the.

[B]

Yeah. And I mean, I think that, I mean, you do love us an absurd amount, but at the same time you can't. You gotta let all of us, like walk our own path, you know, like experience life, the ups and the downs. Because that's how you figure out who you are.

[A]

I agree with that to a certain degree. But as a parent, it is hard for you to see your child walking down a path that you know is going to generate heartache.

[B]

Yeah. But I mean, like, for example, like the partying stuff, like y' all had told me for years to stop partying. Like I did. It doesn't matter like how involved you are or how much you try to insert yourself. Nobody's people are only going to change whenever they feel that they need to change.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like whenever. Like they have to want that. So you can want it for someone as much as you want to, but until the they want to do that, it's like beating a dead horse.

[A]

Right. What do you think? What would be the thing that you would. That you wish that I could. That I would have done a little bit differently with you thus far? Because I still have a lot of years to work with you, a little

[C]

bit of, like, what he said. But I got myself in more trouble because I went back a little bit. Like, you'd say some things, and I'm like, well, that's just not true. And then I'd get myself in more trouble because I'd argue back.

[A]

But I remember. I remember one time that you did something and I got onto you, and then I didn't talk.

[C]

Yeah, he didn't talk to me for, like, a week.

[A]

That wasn't a week, dude.

[B]

He hasn't talked to me for, like, same house.

[A]

It wasn't awake. It was. It was like, two days that we just. It was a big house, too. It was easy to not run into each other. But you came to me. It was probably. That was probably one of my most impactful. And let's talk about that. How each of y' all have impacted my life. That was probably one of the biggest, most impactful moments of my life. When you came to my bedroom door and you said, can I talk to you for a second? You remember this? And I said, always. And you said, dad, we have lost two days of not speaking to each other, and that's time that we never get back. When. If you would just sit down and talk to me.

[C]

I told him it was childish.

[A]

You did. You said, it's so childish. Because if you would just sit down, we can talk this out.

[B]

That's Mama coming out on him.

[A]

And it was. He. He broke me right there in the bed. I mean, he broke me. And I jumped up and I grabbed him and hugged him. And I said, I love you more than anything in the world. You're 100% right. And I will never do that again. Is that not how that went down? I think so. That was probably one of the most impactful moments of my life. Certainly the most with you, I think.

[B]

And he and I look at each other. We'll be in the car and look at that. Look out the window.

[A]

I think with you, one of the more impactful moments, obviously, was when I came home and saw the condition that you were in, and sitting on the plane and seeing the tears, and I realized, my child is broken. My child is truly broken. And there was that part of me that said, well, I sat there on the plane and I said, God, please let my next response be the right response. And that's when I said, I love you more than anything in the world, but we're not going to do this anymore. Regardless of how much I love you, I'm not babying you. You have to get help.

[B]

But I wasn't even like that. I mean, I wanted to go.

[A]

I understand. But, I mean, any other time, I would have tried to fix it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I knew I could not fix you. That had to come from within, and it had to be something that happened between you and God. So that was a very impactful moment for me. I think with Savannah, a dad raising a daughter is different. And if you all have a daughter, you're going to come back to me and say, oh, my God. I now know what you were talking about. Savannah has had a lot of impactful moments for me because Savannah is. Savannah is. She wants to talk, and she wants to figure it out. But I think that probably I was watching think clips the other day and of her going to the appellate court thing in Georgia, and I saw. When she was walking down that sidewalk, I saw fear in her,

[B]

really.

[A]

But to the world, she looked like the epitome of strength. And I think what I've learned from. One of the great things I've learned from Savannah and that she's got. That she has gotten so much better at here in the last year maybe, is that she's learning to be more vulnerable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can definitely see she's learning to be more vulnerable. And. And I told her, we had a conversation, and I said, you need to remember this. I said, you're going to. You have your own road that you've got to walk, but you have to be able to let your guard down. I said, what good does your heart do if you keep it in a box and no one can ever get to it? I said, yes, you've protected yourself from your. From heartbreak, but you never got to experience the love before it broke.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I told her, I says, when you have children, that's going to soften you.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And. But I already see that. But I think that she's. I've had so many impactful moments with her that it's hard to kind of pinpoint one, just one specific one. But I look every day, and your mom and I talk all the time, and I cannot. You know, some people, some parents will say, oh, God, I should have never had any more children. I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have done that. I don't have that. I literally don't have that. Like, I look at y', all, and I'm like, when you walk in that door, I am the happiest person in the world. When you decide to clean up your room, I'm the happiest person in the world. You know when Savannah comes in and she's, you know, not like a tornado, and it's just like, you know, she's coming over to the house to cook or we're going to have a meal or whatever. I love seeing that. I love when Chloe comes in there and gives me a hug, and she'll say, oh, stop with the drama. Stop with the drama. Before you start. I love that when she calls that stuff out. Because I sent her a message and I said this morning, I said, really? And she came back, what now? And I said, my room. And she came to the door, and she put her hand already, and she goes, I know. I haven't done anything. What is it now? Drama. Drama. And I said, I didn't get a hug from you last night. Oh, come here, darling. And she came.

[B]

Chloe's got a lot of attitude.

[A]

She does. And she's got a good personality when she wants to use. Yeah, but Chloe is so different than the rest of us because she can ice your ass out. I mean, I thought I was good at icing. Chloe can literally ice you out and forget your name and how you're genetically tied.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

She can. She can. With certain people, she can.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I asked her the other day. I said, what about so and so that? She said, who? I said, that friend that you had, the one that I told you was going to stab me in the back. She said, I don't know who you're talking about. I said, chloe, the one that used to always damn do shit behind your back. She says, daddy, if I say, I don't know who you're talking about, they have been removed from my mind. And I was like, oh, my God. So I just think that every relationship that I have with my children is different. And I don't love any of y' all more than I love the others. It's a different love. And I'm grateful to God that he has taught me in my heart to show me how your heart expands for each relationship, for each child. Even in a friendship, you know, you think, God, I have too many friends already. But then all of a sudden, you meet someone and they bring something to the table that kind of makes everything else even better. And you didn't question, like, Terence.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I mean, you. I mean, all of y' all love Terrence. Who? We would have never met him. Had I not gone to summer camp, we would have never met him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I mean, how wonderful of an addition to our family is he.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just.

[B]

You met some solid people.

[A]

You were talking.

[B]

You have more. You met more solid people there than you had on the outside.

[A]

You. You were talking about that. What was it, two weeks ago when we were on the phone with Dustin and you came in and you said you really did meet some solid guys.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

And I really did.

[C]

You had more friends in there than you did ever.

[B]

Well, because that was a choice, though.

[A]

I was able to stay away from people out here. I stayed at home, and I didn't have any. Anybody in our home there. I was forced to become, you know, so I had to become more social and to communicate with people, and I think that that was healthy for me, too, because, you know, y' all are. Y' all have relationships with these same guys now, and, you know, like, Aaron, Terrence, Dustin, Christian, Skyler, you know, all the guys that I was there with, you know, that are still in our life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so that. That part of it's a blessing. I was laughing at your mama the other night. She said she was talking about this, you know, one woman that was there, Ashland or Lexington, and she said. And, you know, and she told me what she was in for, and I went, what kind of people was you associating with?

[C]

My mom told me there was a woman in there that was in there for selling hot dog. Had a fight.

[A]

I know. Bless her heart. Ain't that awful?

[B]

For charity.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

A fight for charity.

[A]

Right. And she's just selling hot dogs, and they sent her to prison. Is that not horrible?

[B]

Yeah, that is terrible.

[C]

Can't even sell a glizzy without going.

[B]

I didn't even know that fighting was illegal.

[A]

Chase. That's. Isn't that the. The chickens?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's illegal.

[C]

They attach razor blades.

[B]

I thought it was just frowned upon.

[C]

The what?

[B]

I just thought it was frowned upon.

[A]

Well, either way, you could have done. When you can't get. When you can't go to a good fight and get a. And get a hot dog, there's a problem. There's a problem with that. It's just that there's this problem, but your mother dealt with a whole different. Different group of people.

[B]

I mean, dad, you had some people.

[A]

I. I've got people of all walks of life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you need. If you having a problem with someone, I got somebody for you. If you need accounting information, I got somebody for you. If you need a good attorney that knows how. How corrupt the system is, I got somebody for you. If you need a good doctor who can get you a back brace without you know, qualifying for it. I got somebody for you. I mean, I've got somebody in just about every walk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. But all of mine have all been lovely, lovely people, and I'm grateful to have that experience, but that was a traumatic time for our family. And I was talking to someone the other night, and he was talking about how. How horrible this whole situation has been, you know, for him. And I said, but you. You choose to lay down and wallow in it. I said, you need to get up and go out and thank God for every day that you have instead of sitting here whining that, you know, your prosecutor lied and this happened, and this happened. Enough with that. It's over. You're done. You're free of that. Move on, because I'm not giving you any more of my time on it. I'm not giving any more my days away for stupid shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. So tell me. Let's just say, what do you want Your. What is your goal going? Because, I mean, I give you advice every day. Whether you take it or not. It's up to you.

[B]

Not two weeks.

[A]

Same with you, huh?

[B]

Not like two weeks.

[A]

Why am I not giving you advice?

[B]

I know. You just haven't been talking to me.

[A]

That is not true. You say that. Admit.

[B]

I have the receipts.

[A]

Oh, my God. Do I talk? I don't talk to you every day, but I. Well, I normally do talk. Yeah, I talk to you just about every day. Okay, you're in the house with me. What do you want to talk about?

[B]

Well, I haven't been. Whenever I was traveling and then you were gone back. Yeah, but we talking every day. Don't even come at me like that.

[A]

Well, you. Then you should text me or call me.

[B]

I have, and I don't get a response.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

Yeah, it is. It is true. Don't sit here and look at me crazy.

[A]

If that is true, then I am sorry, because it was not intentional.

[B]

It's been intentional. Yeah, it is passive aggressive. He. He is. He does love everybody, but he's one of the pettiest people I've ever met in my life and will hold a grudge.

[A]

And let's talk about it. Let's break it down. What am I petty about everything? I. Folks, I am not petty. I do not believe in getting even.

[B]

No, you get even. You get more than even.

[A]

I don't believe in talking poorly about people.

[B]

You. That's what.

[C]

That's what all of our calls are.

[B]

And talking poorly. Your podcast is about you dragging people in the Bop. Talking about how ugly somebody is.

[C]

You are petty calling somebody fat or.

[A]

I do not.

[B]

Yeah, you do. Can we get it?

[C]

Can we get him a history of call? Didn't you call like Nancy Grace or somebody? A fat cow or something?

[A]

Was and is.

[C]

She was and is.

[A]

Well, I. Folks, if I am doing that, then I. That is a character flaw.

[B]

You need to work on being more self aware for sure.

[C]

I think you're dead.

[A]

You.

[B]

We have an opportunity for change.

[C]

Shut up. I don't want him to change. It's funny.

[A]

Tell me what it is that you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not trying to turn this into a Disney show.

[B]

I'm trying to turn my life into a damn Disney show.

[A]

What is it? Did you think that I'm passive aggressive about dad? No. Help me out here.

[B]

Breathing.

[A]

That is not true.

[B]

Yes, you are.

[A]

It's not true.

[B]

Yes, you are.

[A]

It's not true.

[B]

Yes. What do you think I'm passing in a professional fisherman? You will fish for information.

[A]

Okay, then what? Let's folks, I'm trying to get them to break it down and stop being little hoes on here.

[B]

We're not being hoes. I'm telling you straight up. You will fish for information.

[A]

You'll make.

[B]

You'll make up to think that you can.

[C]

He will make stuff up to get

[B]

you to tell on yourself or to divulge information. Yes, you will. I've known.

[A]

This has been the cycle for 30 years. This is how slow they are. If I come to you and tell you something and you think I'm fishing. I've already caught the barracuda.

[B]

No, you haven't.

[A]

I have.

[B]

You haven't.

[A]

Adonis. I have. So I've got. I've caught. I've caught the barracuda. If I come and tell you something, it's because someone has already told me something. And I don't want to out that person to you. So folks, I get the rap for fishing when I'm really a master.

[C]

Why are you looking at that snitching ass right there? I got looking at you the whole time. He said, somebody told me.

[B]

I've never told on you.

[A]

He's trying to say, look at me.

[C]

Get him for trying to set you up.

[B]

Look at me. Look at me. Right hand to God, I just dropped

[A]

a bomb on him with one word, which is why he jumped on that phone. I switched over to you after I had dropped my bait here and threw my line over here. So at the end of the day,

[B]

this is exactly okay.

[A]

This is.

[B]

I rest my case.

[A]

So, folks, if I am a fisherman, I am a master fisherman because I am constantly putting it mounting and putting on the wall, so. Well, folks, on that note, we will revisit my pettiness and what was the other thing y' all said? Huh? We are going to do a segment every week on Todd's fishing expeditions. We will show how I fished and how I caught. That's what we'll do.

[B]

No, I'm getting out of the boat and out of the water.

[A]

Well, folks, on that note, until next week, two sons and me, Chase and Grayson. I love you both with all my hearts, even though you're both full of shit and you're lying to me right now.

[B]

I'm not lying.

[A]

See you next week.

[D]

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