Say It To My Face

Summary

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Two Sons and Me – “Say It To My Face”

Episode Date: May 8, 2026
Host: Todd Chrisley
Co-Hosts: Chase Chrisley, Grayson Chrisley
Theme: Unfiltered family dynamics and brutally honest (and hilarious) conversations about loyalty, boundaries, and friendship.

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Episode Overview

In this candid, lively, and unapologetically authentic episode of Two Sons & Me, Todd Chrisley sits down with his sons, Chase and Grayson, for a conversation that’s high on wit, wild anecdotes, and hard truths. This week focuses on what loyalty (and family feuding) really looks like, the boundaries (or lack thereof) in relationships, and why sometimes you’ve just got to “say it to my face.” Listeners are treated to the Chrisleys’ signature blend of banter and real talk, with plenty of playful jabs, one-liners, and the occasional life lesson.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Chrisley Family Updates & Summer Plans

Timestamps: 01:21–03:00

• Grayson has just finished school; he’s “taking it a day at a time to rage” this summer. (02:11)
• Chase is gearing up for a move to Dallas and seems excited about the change. (02:54)
• The family is looking forward to a trip to the Cayman Islands in June.

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2. Podcast Milestone – Million Views Bet

Timestamps: 03:07–05:12

• Celebrating the podcast’s recent spike in popularity (“We hit a million views,” says Chase at 03:12).

• Todd is called out for a pact to visit Magic City (iconic Atlanta strip club) after hitting one million views. Todd protests but agrees to go, solely to “do a rating on the food,” insisting, “I am married and I’m not doing such as that. I’ve never disrespected your mom.” (04:29)

• Hilarious debate around what counts as “honoring a bet,” Todd’s justification for his attendance, and playful ribbing about family reputation.

  Quote:
  "I’m going to pray for them, and I’m going to splash them with holy water. That’s what I’m gonna do." —Todd (04:37)

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3. Loyalty, Trust, Family Dynamics

Timestamps: 06:26–12:41

• Todd introduces the core topic: “loyalty and friendship and trust”.

• Who’s Most Loyal?

  • Chase claims it’s himself; Grayson nominates Todd, revealing trust in how much he’s confided that’s never been repeated (07:00).

• Defining Loyalty:

  • Grayson: “If someone's not loyal to you, then you can’t have a relationship with them. Can’t have a relationship without loyalty.” (07:25)
  • Chase: Loyalty isn’t just in good times; “You can measure loyalty when times are hard.” (08:30)
  • Todd: “If your ‘loyal’ friend will let someone else talk crap about you to their face, they’re not loyal.” (07:33)

  Quote:
  "I’m less concerned with kind of what the person said versus what you said in response to that." —Todd (08:00)

• Talking About Haters/Public Life:

  • “People are going to talk regardless of who you are, what you’re doing...” —Todd (08:58)
  • “That means you’re doing something right.” —Chase (09:19)

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4. Conflict, Consequences, and Old-School Justice

Timestamps: 09:33–12:20

• Chase: “People have made it a big deal like it’s so wrong to slap the shit out of somebody, but I think we need to bring that back.” (09:33)

• Todd says fighting was a way of settling things and enforcing respect in his day, comparing past and present attitudes toward conflict.

  Quote:
  "No one is slapping the shit out of somebody...that person shut up." —Todd (09:41)

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5. Boundaries in Family – Or Not

Timestamps: 15:59–17:40

• Todd confesses to being a “notorious boundary crosser,” at least where his kids are concerned. “There is no door that’s ever going to have a lock on it with my child on the other side…that I won’t kick the hell down.” (16:31)
• Chase pushes back, arguing that emotional boundaries still matter, even among family.

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6. Real Loyalty vs. Enabling

Timestamps: 17:56–18:53

• The crew discusses the difference between supporting friends and enabling bad behavior.

• “Covering for cheating isn’t loyalty—it’s a character flaw.” —Todd (18:01)

• True friends (and loyal people) will challenge you when you’re making mistakes.

  Quote:
  "Loyalty is someone who stands on what they believe, has strong, solid values…they make you a better person by standing up and saying, ‘Stop. We're not going to do that.’" —Todd (18:13)

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7. Family Petty Wars

Timestamps: 20:02–24:51

• The Chrisleys acknowledge that shade, gossip, and sarcasm flow easily in the family.
  • “You are full of shit. Just completely.” —Chase at Todd (21:09)
  • The siblings joke about how little drama Grayson brings compared to Chase.

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8. Boundaries with Friends & Acquaintances

Timestamps: 24:51–26:34

• Grayson sets standards for which friends’ partners are allowed around. “You ain’t bringing her,” he says about friends’ untrustworthy dates (24:59).
• Todd explores how it took him years to set (and enforce) healthy boundaries in his own relationships.

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9. Guy Code and Friendship Lines

Timestamps: 26:20–26:50

• Consensus: It’s a violation for a friend to date someone you’ve dated. That’s “not a friend.” (26:29)
• Brief comic debate over whether this is just “being a shitty person” or evidence of a secret crush on you. (26:51)

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10. Cheating, Trouble, and Peer Pressure

Timestamps: 27:57–29:53

• If a friend is cheating: generally, not their business unless their friend is being cheated on. Then it’s time to “air it out.” (28:43)
• On risky behavior: A true friend won’t drag you into trouble—but if a friend’s in a fight and outnumbered, the Chrisleys believe in “jumping in.”

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11. Petty Wars, Social Media, and Letting Go

Timestamps: 31:02–35:01

• Todd and sons debate who’s the “pettiest” in the family, with everyone alleging the others take that title.
• Instagram drama and passive-aggressive “quotes” are exposed as forms of family warfare.
• “You create a lot of negativity.” —Chase to Todd (34:23)

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12. Friendship as You Get Older

Timestamps: 35:14–36:54

• Both Chase and Grayson say they’ve narrowed their circle to just a handful of friends.
• Todd: “The older you get, the more [your circle] is going to dwindle down.”
• Todd has three core loyal friends, “riding to the gates of heaven,” and reflects that not everyone grows with you.

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13. Letting Go of Grudges and Growth

Timestamps: 37:04–38:50

• Todd’s working on “letting go,” but admits to being a world-class grudge-holder. “I’m trying to get better at that because I know the Lord is going to say…you didn’t forgive this 39,716 times.”
• Grayson: “There’s certain people I just don’t forgive.”
• Chase: “You have to forgive, but forgive for yourself.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Family Differences:
  “You can raise children the exact same way. And they all turn out…” —Todd (03:30)

• On Parenting Boundaries:
  “There is no door that’s ever going to have a lock on it with my child on the other side…that I won’t kick the hell down.” —Todd (16:31)

• On Loyalty:
  “Paying for your dinner isn’t loyalty…covering for you while you’re cheating, that’s enabling.” —Todd (18:01)

• On Fighting for Family:
  “If someone says something about one of my kids or your mama…then I will fight you.” —Todd (24:29)

• On Friendship Circles:
  “I have like four friends and I’m good.” —Chase (35:22)
  “You've continuously went down...The older you get, the more that's going to dwindle down.” —Todd (35:33)

• On Grudges:
  “I will hold a grudge, and I’m trying to get better at that...” —Todd (37:42)

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Most Memorable, Classic Chrisley Exchanges

• Chase: “You are full of shit. Just completely.” (21:09)
• Grayson: “I'm ready to go to jail [if someone disrespects my family].” (22:16)
• Todd: “Try me.” (on whether he’d be bored without their drama) (34:51)
• On Shade:
  “Dad, look me in my face. You are full of shit. Just completely.” —Chase (21:09)
• On Forgiveness:
  “If I can forgive ugly people, then you can forgive other people. I said ugly people, not other people.” —Todd (38:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Content | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 01:21–02:45 | Family check-in, summer plans | | 03:07–05:12 | Podcast milestone bet, Magic City debate | | 06:26–12:41 | Loyalty, trust, talking behind your back | | 15:17–18:01 | Friendship boundaries and loyalty v. enabling | | 20:02–24:51 | Gossip, disrespect, family pettiness | | 26:20-26:50 | Guy code and friendship lines | | 28:08–29:53 | Cheating, risky friends, peer pressure | | 35:14–36:54 | Shrinking friend circles, who sticks with you | | 37:04–38:50 | Grudges, forgiveness, letting go |

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Tone & Style

• Language & Tone: Hilarious, honest, irreverent, tender beneath the sarcasm
• Typical Exchange: Quick-witted, cutting, deeply familial, punctuated by playful insults and genuine moments of insight.

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Takeaways

• Loyalty is foundational, but it’s not about enabling bad behavior; it’s about honesty and standing up for each other in the right ways.
• The Chrisleys are fiercely protective, emotionally direct, and never afraid to call each other out.
• Family is a place for unconditional support—just don’t expect them to hold back their “petty.”
• Friendships get smaller but stronger with age; boundaries and knowing who deserves loyalty are survival skills.
• You can grow only by letting go, but the Chrisleys are happy to admit that some grudges are hard to shake.

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This episode is classic Chrisley—unfiltered, funny as hell, occasionally wise, and absolutely family-first.

Transcript

[Todd Grayson Chase]

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[Todd Grayson Chase]

Welcome to Two Sons and Me. I'm Todd Grayson Chase. How are you today?

[Chase]

Kicking.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You look so good today. You got your hair cut about 30 minutes ago. Yeah. Folks, we all my children always wait until the last minute. I, on the other hand, am always prepared. I get up, I get dressed, and yes, I know it's hard to believe, but I get up looking like this. So. My children, on the other hand, who only have 50% of my DNA, they have to work a little harder than I do. So tell me what's going on in your life right now?

[Grayson]

Not much. I just finished school. That was good.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That's a blessing.

[Grayson]

I'm happy.

[Chase]

Are you done for the summer? Okay.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Finally. Okay. What's the plans?

[Grayson]

I don't have any plans right now. I take it a day at a time to rage.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

What is that? What is. Don't start. No, that. I don't know what it is. What is it?

[Grayson]

Nothing. He's just being stupid.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Google Aaron. What it is

[Mackenzie]

just means like really hard partying.

[Grayson]

Like breathing.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah. You're not doing no. Like that. So then. But you're going to Cayman's with us in June, right?

[Grayson]

Okay, I'm gonna.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So after that do you plan on. Are you doing an internship this summer or do you know yet?

[Grayson]

I don't know yet. Probably not this summer. Next summer I will. That's usually summer after your junior year.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay.

[Chase]

All right.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

What about you?

[Chase]

Just getting ready for the move to Dallas.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay.

[Chase]

I'm excited. Okay.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So anything that I need to know about that's going on in your life now?

[Grayson]

You pretty much know everything.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay. You know, the podcast is doing really good.

[Chase]

Yeah. We hit a million views, so you.

[Grayson]

Someone has to go to Magic. We did hit a million views. It's actually.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Just kidding.

[Chase]

No, no, no.

[Grayson]

Actually, we shook on a million views.

[Chase]

Y. We shook on it.

[Grayson]

Trust me.

[Chase]

Somebody's going to be throwing money on some ass. Not me. But you.

[Grayson]

You are.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Folks, this is proof that you can raise children the exact same way. And they all turn.

[Grayson]

You going to have them bbls bouncing on you. What? Them bbls.

[Chase]

Fake butts, Big fat asses.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You.

[Chase]

You shook my hand and agreed to it. We got over a million views.

[Grayson]

We have it on camera.

[Chase]

It's on camera. You should. So if you don't want to be a man, I will go there.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm going to eat and I'm going to test. I'm going to do a rating on the food.

[Chase]

Yeah.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

And then I'm leaving.

[Chase]

Sure.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm not going to be a part of all that. Sodom and Gomorrah Mass.

[Chase]

No one's doing analysis.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh, my God. Go to church.

[Chase]

What?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I didn't say Sodomy. I said Sodom.

[Chase]

Yeah, but they were doing that over there. I mean, I'm sure you could do it. So you're gonna get one lap dance.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, I'm not.

[Chase]

Okay.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I am married, and I'm not doing such as that. I've never disrespected your mom.

[Chase]

Then they'll dance on the stage, and you have to make it rain one time.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm going to pray for them, and I'm going to splash them with holy water. That's what I'm gonna do.

[Chase]

So you are going.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm going to have. I'm going to honor what I said, and I'm going to give a rating for the food, and then I'm leaving. My friend Candy Burris has already sent me a message and said yes.

[Chase]

Candy's coming. Yeah, Candy's been in there throwing money.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'll get on to her.

[Chase]

She has.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I've had several of my friends from Atlanta to say, todd, when are you going to Magic City? Because I have to be there, and I Have to have cameras rolling.

[Chase]

No cameras allowed.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm not doing anything that I care for people to say.

[Chase]

It's just out of respect for the lovely dancers there.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Out of respect?

[Chase]

Yes. You have to be respectful. I was raised to be respectful.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

If you was respectful, you wouldn't have never been in there to begin with.

[Chase]

I was giving back to the community.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah.

[Grayson]

Mm.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

And, Grayson, you better not ever be doing such. Because you would. You want your mama to cry?

[Chase]

She won't cry. Yeah, she'll yell, but she won't cry.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, she'll cry over you.

[Chase]

Yeah. They don't give a. About me.

[Grayson]

No.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh, God.

[Grayson]

Thank you.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That storyline is so. Folks, it grows. You know, you have. You have some people that. They do one scene and it kind of took off and.

[Chase]

Well, that's not.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But you can't be doing it over and over because it doesn't. It has. This doesn't have the same effect.

[Chase]

Do you ever look yourself in the mirror and take your own advice? Because that's the same over here.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No.

[Chase]

Rinse and repeat.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No. You're singing and repeating about this. Yeah, you are.

[Chase]

It's not. It's not if it's a fact. And it grows deeper and deeper every day.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay, speaking of that, that goes back to a topic that I want to talk about today, because we seem to keep butting heads and doing some of the same shit that's been done in the past. So I wanted to talk to y' all about loyalty and friendship and trust. So I want to start off with the first question being, who do you think in this family is the most loyal? Chase?

[Chase]

Myself.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Grayson.

[Grayson]

Honestly, you kiss some ass some more. I've told him so much that's never

[Todd Grayson Chase]

been repeated, nor will it. Okay, so let me ask you this, Grayson. What does loyalty mean to you?

[Grayson]

So it's like the biggest thing. The biggest thing to me.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay, but what does it mean? What is your end of the day?

[Grayson]

If someone's not loyal to you, then, like, you can't have a relationship with them.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay.

[Grayson]

Because that's not going to have relationship without loyalty.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That's right. And, you know, that's kind of goes back to what I've told all of y' all that people. It's one thing for someone to say, dude, I got your back. I'm with you. I'm riding with you. I'm loyal with you. But if that person is saying that to you, is going and having dinner with someone that's talking shit about you, and they're sitting there hearing that, that Means that person who told you that they were loyal to you has now created a safe space for that individual to feel comfortable enough to talk shit about you. So then for me, that's a deal breaker because you're not really that loyal to me. You're loyal to anyone who's sitting at the table. And I'm. I'm less concerned with kind of what the person said versus what you said in response to that. Would you agree with that?

[Grayson]

Yeah. It's all about how you respond.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Exactly.

[Grayson]

They can say whatever they want, but it's about how you respond.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Exactly your thoughts.

[Chase]

I think that. I mean, being loyal to somebody is like, not just when times are good and it's easy to be loyal. It's like whenever, if someone's going through something or if, like, you're at your lowest, the people that are still there and still have your back, that's when you can measure loyalty is when times are hard.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I think that. Yes, I agree. I think that when you look at it from the standpoint of.

[Chase]

And as far as people talking shit, Join the club.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

People are going to talk regardless of where you are, who you are, whatever. People are going to talk about us because we're out in the public, but people in Crossroads, South Carolina are sitting in a church on a pew talking about somebody sitting in front of them and what they're wearing. So regardless of who you are, what you're doing, someone's talking about you.

[Chase]

That means you're doing something right.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I don't necessarily know that it always means you're doing something right. But I think that what it means is, is that it's human nature for so many people. They're comfortable in finding comfort in other people's misery.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah.

[Chase]

That's because people have made it a big deal to, like, it's so wrong to slap the shit out of somebody, but I think we need to bring that back.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I literally just said this on Chrisley confessions to your mother last week. I said no. One of the biggest problems that we have in this country right now is that no one is slapping the shit out of somebody.

[Chase]

Yeah.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

When I was growing up and you ran your mouth about somebody or somebody ran their mouth about you, you walked into school, you saw them in the hallway, you dropped your backpack off, you beat the shit out of them down the hallway. You went to the school, you went to the principal, they put you in. In school suspension for a day. But that person shut up.

[Chase]

Yeah. They'll think twice before they do it.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Right.

[Chase]

And now you get sued but today

[Todd Grayson Chase]

it's a safe zone for people to run that mile. Yeah, because they think you're not gonna mess with. I ain't that person. I disregard all safe zones. So you talk shit about me. You talk. I don't give a shit what you say about me, but you talk shit about one of my kids and you say something about my wife or my mama, I'll remove my backpack. Because I genuinely love, literally love to fight. That's what some people may not know about.

[Chase]

Yeah, I'm gonna stop here. That everybody is well aware of that.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, I love. But you know, I love to physically fight. I mean, it's not just mouth. I love to, like, if you put your. I want somebody to come put their hands on me. I literally have. I have got so much pent up frustration.

[Grayson]

You need to talk to somebody.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, I don't. I need to beat out of a few people. Yeah, that's my theory. One of them right here in Nashville. One of them right here in Nashville. And he better hope I don't go into the same restaurant teasing.

[Chase]

If you want to square up, just square up with me.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Beat the brakes off of him. Me. I. I already done that with you. You're good.

[Juan Naula]

Shit.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You in line. But people want to run that mouth because they get a mic or because they've got a social media platform following. I'm good with that. I'm good with you thinking I'm trash. I'm good with you thinking that I'm redneck. I'm good with you thinking that I'm gay. I'm good with you thinking whatever the label you need to give me in order for you to feel better about what you're getting ready to say. But feel good enough to come on this podcast with me. Feel good to meet me out in public. I'll extend an invitation.

[Grayson]

Worried about goggles?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You know, I'm good with that. I don't mind getting down in the gutter with you. I mean, I'm not Michelle. I'm not Michelle Obama. When they go low, I go lower. So, you know, I'm good with that. But I do believe, going back to what you were saying, people don't have a consequence for running their mouth and telling lies.

[Chase]

Yeah, 100%.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

And you know, I get tired of having to sue people. I really do. But I'm also you. I really get tired of people saying that I do things that I don't do and they don't give me credit for anything that I do. But what I am going to do is make a believer out of you.

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[Grayson]

know it's going to get better.

[Chase]

I think once when. I don't know, I mean, I've Definitely experienced, like, when times got hard, you just stop hearing from people and if that's fine, like, not everybody signs up for your shit, but, like, you can still be there for someone.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, not everyone signs up for your shit. I love that. I love that line. Not everyone signs up for your shit, but. But if I sign up for when things are going great, yeah, everybody wants

[Chase]

to be a part of it when things are going great. But, I mean, I think that's. I mean, it's loyalty and it's love. I think when you love somebody, like, for me, like, your shit is my shit, you know?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah. I don't look at it that way. I don't want y' all shit.

[Chase]

We're well aware.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I am of the mindset that loyal for me, loyalty is about being honest, straightforward, direct about where you stand and with an understanding that this is my. These are my boundaries. This is what I'm standing on. Doesn't mean I don't love you. Doesn't mean I'm not here, you know, if you need me, but these are my boundaries. A lot of people can miss a notorious boundary crosser. I'm. There is no boundary for me when it comes to my kids.

[Chase]

But you have.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yes, there is no boundaries for me when it comes to my kids. There is no door that's ever going to have a lock on it with my child on the other side of it that I won't kick the hell down.

[Chase]

I know, but you have to respect people's boundaries, though. Like, at the end of the day, like a human. Like, as human beings, everybody has, like, emotional boundaries.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, go. Go in deeper about that.

[Chase]

I mean, that's. I feel like that should be common sense.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, that it's. Common sense is not all that common. And right now I'm not getting what you're laying down, so I need you to help me figure that out.

[Chase]

What do you. I mean, like, you said that there's no boundaries with your kids.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No.

[Chase]

So, like youe definitely have boundaries with your kids. You just choose to respect certain people's boundaries and not other people's.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No. So that's. That's where I think that all of y' all sometimes get confused. I cross every boundary if I think it's for the benefit of my child. But that doesn't mean if I'm crossing a boundary with him, that I'm gonna come and tell you if I cross. I don't know that I'm gonna go tell Savannah. I just shatter all of yalls boundaries. Don't be trying to put up no boundaries of me and no damn locked doors because I'm gonna cross every one of them at the end.

[Chase]

That goes back to slapping the shit out of someone.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah. And I love that. Yeah, I'd love to do that. But my thing is, is that bounce. People look at loyalty as, dude, I. I paid for your dinner yesterday.

[Chase]

That's not.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm loyal to you.

[Grayson]

That's not loyal.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, I know.

[Chase]

Then I should have a million people,

[Todd Grayson Chase]

you know, or, you know, dude, I covered for you when you were cheating on that girl. That's not loyalty. That's a character flaw on his part.

[Chase]

Enabling.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Or that or her part. And they're enabling a character flaw in you. So to me, loyalty is someone who stands on what they believe. They have strong, solid values, Their moral compass is where it needs to be. And they make you a better person by standing up and saying, chase, stop. We're not going to do that. That's not something we're going to do. That's not going to benefit you. So we're not going to do that. That's a true friend. I mean, would you agree with that?

[Grayson]

I would.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Because when you rather have a friend that's going to tell you, dude, we're not going on that ride right there. Just came out the tracks last week.

[Chase]

Yeah.

[Grayson]

I don't want anybody that's going to tell me yes all the time.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Right?

[Chase]

Correct.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Exactly.

[Grayson]

That didn't do me any good.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

See, folks, I am overly qualified for this position because I rarely tell them, yes, me more than the others do. What?

[Grayson]

Send me more than the others.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

What Tell you yes, only because I ain't caught you yet. But I know that you Slim Shady and I don't. And, you know, your mama thinks she perfectly. I, on the other hand, know who my son is.

[Chase]

But Grayson is perfect.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Grayson's is close to.

[Grayson]

I don't know why y' all talking about me. I. I'm sitting here being Loyal World in Tuscaloosa. I leave everybody alone.

[Chase]

I.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You are as close to perfection when it comes to raising my children that I've had, because I don't have to worry about you. So that gives me a great level of peace. Well, on that note, I want to give y' all some scenarios and then you tell me kind of what your thoughts are on that. So, like, how do you feel or how do you handle if a friend talks behind your back?

[Grayson]

I say something to him. I'm not afraid to say something, so.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But how does it make you feel if you find out That a friend's talk behind your back?

[Chase]

Be honest.

[Grayson]

Honestly though, like, does it hurt? A little bit. Yeah. But just with who we are, like I assume people to talk behind our back.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Gotcha.

[Chase]

I thank God when I find out someone's talked behind my back because that's just revealing. Okay, they gotta go.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

There you go, there you go.

[Chase]

What about when family talks behind your back? Because y' all be talking about me.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You give us a lot of to talk about.

[Chase]

So do you.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No. Oh my God. I don't.

[Chase]

Hell's gonna bust wide open.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Chase. I am 58 years old. What could I possibly be giving you to talk about?

[Chase]

You're a full blown psychopath.

[Grayson]

Our issue is we love to handle stuff very violently.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah, there is that tendency.

[Grayson]

There is.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Is that tendency in us. How do you feel when we're just

[Chase]

going to brush past that? Okay.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, we're not going to brush past it. Tell me what you said. Don't. Don't be. Oh, I'm trying to be shady.

[Chase]

You.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Are you saying bitch in the family? What are you saying?

[Chase]

Gina George over here, queen of fucking throwing shade.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

She. He.

[Chase]

Oh my God.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I do know such of a thing.

[Chase]

Dad, look me in my face. You are full of shit. Just completely.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

What are you talking about? Dad?

[Chase]

You talk shit about me with anybody?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Grayson. Do I talk shit about him to you?

[Chase]

No.

[Grayson]

But I say. I say the same shit that I tell everybody else. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to know. I'm not involved in it. It's not my problem. I'm doing my own.

[Chase]

I'm going to put a hidden camera. When you and Savannah get in the car together.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

It will.

[Chase]

Oh my.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Go, Chase. Oh, you just snitch. We don't have time to talk. If me and Savannah are together, we're talking about ourselves. We're not talking about you. We're talking about ourselves. Clearly.

[Chase]

We're so great. We're just perfect. But let's just. Let's talk about Chase and we'll just say he's the worst thing ever.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

We don't ever mention your name.

[Chase]

That's a lie.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

We don't. We don't ever talk about you. That's the. God. We talk about business. We talk about personal stuff.

[Chase]

Save the bullshit.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But we don't talk about you.

[Chase]

Okay.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You know you're going to believe what you want to believe. So how do you feel when someone disrespects your family?

[Grayson]

I'm ready to go to jail

[Todd Grayson Chase]

again, folks. We result to violence I let a

[Grayson]

little bit more go with you because I know you don't give a shit.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Not at all.

[Grayson]

They say something about mama or Savannah and I'm ready. I. I will gladly go to jail.

[Chase]

What about me?

[Grayson]

You're a man, dude. You can take it.

[Chase]

I already went.

[Grayson]

I don't ever say anything if they say something about me, because I'm just like, I'll just turn around. And you know what the thing about

[Todd Grayson Chase]

it is, is that we know the truth. So I look at them sometimes and laugh. I'm like, because you were there.

[Grayson]

I let it go. I let it go sometimes. But sometimes I'll be walking and they'll say something and I'll keep walking for a minute and I just go, no. And turn around and they'll be like, you. And I'll be like, no, you.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I. I don't even care that much. Like, I've only had that. I had that one incident at Publix out there where your nanny lived. And then the one with that lady in the airport that time when I was bringing mama back.

[Chase]

I already went to jail over.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

And then, then that. Then that. That one guy. Shoot. It's always somebody.

[Chase]

A big.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Looks like a sack of shit.

[Grayson]

It's always somebody that's got a hell of a lot more issues than we do, that wants to hit on ours.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Exactly. And I'm just going to tell you right now, folks, every time one of somebody has said something to me, those hoes need to be best friends with Ozempic.

[Grayson]

I'll see people.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

It's always that section.

[Grayson]

I'll see people comment on Instagram talking about one of us. And I'll go look at their profile picture. Well, half the time it's not even a profile picture of them. So how insecure are you? Your profile picture anymore.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Exactly. First of all, what are they gonna say about us and I. They can say a lot of shit, but they can't say we or they're

[Grayson]

350lbs of four teeth on their head, okay? They've been chain smoking unfiltered cigarettes for 80 years.

[Chase]

That's math. They're doing math.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm just. I don't even give a about. If someone says something about one of my kids or your mama or my mama, then I will fight you.

[Grayson]

I'm just not real worried about Tammy and her double wide trailer in Arkansas talking shit.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I ain't really worried about Tammy either. So how do you feel about if you have a friend that's dating someone that you don't trust?

[Grayson]

Actually, I can comment perfectly on this because I got a friend dating somebody, okay? I don't surround myself with them. I tell him I'm coming over. Bring. No, no, you ain't you bringing yourself or you're not, you're not coming.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But I like that because that's setting proper boundaries. Because for years, I allowed so many people in my life and around me that I knew was not good for me and that I knew would talk or whatever, but I just did not have it in me to hurt someone's feelings to say, no, you can't. My issue is I did not. I did not.

[Chase]

When have you ever been afraid to hurt somebody's feelings?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

All my life. All my life. All my life. Now, folks, now, I don't give a. I will come for you if you come for me.

[Chase]

Had you been hurting my feelings since I was a toddler?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh, Chase. The sunrise hurts your feelings.

[Grayson]

It's called tough parenting.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Clearly, folks, everyone knows who the emo is in our family.

[Chase]

No, I'm. I'm not emo at all.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

How do you feel about someone, one of your friends, dating someone that you don't trust?

[Chase]

I mean, I'll just tell them, be like, that's not a good idea, but I won't. I'm not gonna get involved in the relationship or be around them I don't get involved in.

[Grayson]

I just say I'm not going to be surrounded by it because I'm around people I don't trust or I don't like.

[Chase]

But I feel like you've done a good job with teaching us how to handle people. Like, if we don't trust somebody, you know what they are.

[Grayson]

I feel like I let more go than, you know.

[Chase]

We know how to navigate those waters better.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

How do you feel about. Let's just say one of your friends in your friend group ends up talking to someone that you used to date

[Chase]

that's not a friend.

[Grayson]

You don't do that.

[Chase]

Not a friend.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Because it's kind of like a violation of the guy code, right?

[Chase]

Yeah.

[Grayson]

You don't do that.

[Chase]

You don't sword fight.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Because I think that if that's happening, I think that deep down that person is trying to date somebody that you've already been with, secretly has the thing for you, and that's their way of being able to get closer.

[Grayson]

I don't know if it's that far,

[Chase]

but, yeah, I don't know if it's that far.

[Grayson]

I think it's just being a shitty person.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Really?

[Grayson]

Yeah.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So you don't think it could be like they have secret thoughts about you.

[Grayson]

I think you're digging way too much into it.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

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[Todd Grayson Chase]

All right, then there's the example. What about if you have a friend that's cheating on someone that they're with? How do you handle that?

[Chase]

I'm not telling you.

[Grayson]

I don't like trauma. It's really none of my business.

[Chase]

Okay, great. Not telling either.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So that kind of goes back to what my daddy used to say when I was growing up. My daddy said that you don't need to be dick watching somebody else.

[Grayson]

That's not my business.

[Chase]

Doesn't that kind of contradict what we just said, though, about the loyalty thing?

[Grayson]

But I feel like if your friend is.

[Chase]

Well, I guess you could be like, yo, you shouldn't do that. But like.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah, but I was like that. I would be doing that.

[Grayson]

Yeah, but isn't it different if, like, your friends getting cheated on, you know, then you say something?

[Chase]

Yeah, oh, my. Someone's cheating on one of my friends. I'd be like, that is cheating. Yeah, I'm airing it out.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm airing it. We know. That.

[Chase]

I know that. I haven't told you about it. Eat my ass.

[Grayson]

Sign out my. My friend was getting cheated on. Yeah, yeah, I told her, okay, so

[Todd Grayson Chase]

what if you have a friend that's. That does something that you know is going to get you in trouble and they've included you in it.

[Grayson]

That's shitty friend. Why would you include me? I don't want to be a part of that bullshit.

[Chase]

Only if you get caught.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So let me understand this. You're willing to get in a car with one of your friends knowing they're getting ready to go do something that you could potentially get in trouble with.

[Grayson]

If they were your friend, they wouldn't put you in that position in the first place.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

There you go. But we gonna have this one to lick over here. Willing to jump in, ride shotgun no matter who's driving?

[Chase]

No, it depends on what it is. Like what kind of trouble? Like jail trouble.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Jail trouble.

[Chase]

I have done that.

[Grayson]

But I feel like there's a fine line.

[Chase]

Would I do it now? No.

[Grayson]

Loyalty and stupidity again.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Know who you're being loyal to? Everyone doesn't deserve your loyalty.

[Chase]

That's.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Everyone does not deserve your loyalty. I don't. I give. I'm very sparingly with mine. So let me ask you this. If your friend gets into a physical altercation, do you step in or do you step out of?

[Grayson]

Well, it depends. Is my friend getting his ass beat?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, if it's your friend and he's

[Grayson]

fighting one guy, is he getting his ass beat? That's a big Grayson got nothing.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, we'll go with both scenarios. He's fight. It's one on one guy. Your friend ran his mouth. This guy checked him and they're fist fighting and he's getting a shit beat out of it.

[Grayson]

Oh, then yeah, I'm stepping in. But if he is beating the shit out of the other guy, he's got to handle. I don't need stuff.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Right. So you think that if I'm not

[Grayson]

friend let the shit get beat out of him? Like that's just. That's me being a bad friend. I don't care if he provoked it or not. If he's just. What am I going to do? Let him just get shit, you know?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

So you're that friend.

[Grayson]

Yeah. I'm not going to let him get you beat down.

[Chase]

My friends getting is in a fight is losing.

[Grayson]

He's getting his ass kicked.

[Chase]

Yeah, I'm beating the shit out of that guy with him.

[Grayson]

Exactly.

[Chase]

We're jumping him.

[Grayson]

Exactly.

[Chase]

And if he's beating the guy's ass, then I'm videoing and hyping him up like. Yeah, get it. Beat his ass.

[Grayson]

Exactly.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

For the parents watching this, just understand I'm.

[Chase]

I'm petty as. So you are too. You are way more petty than me.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

No, I used to be.

[Chase]

No, you are.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You still think I'm petty.

[Grayson]

Dude, you are.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Let's talk about.

[Grayson]

You will post somebody on Instagram in a hurry.

[Chase]

Dude, the last three days he's posted on Instagram and I'm like, damn. I know. That's. That's a jab at me.

[Grayson]

He posts stuff. Everybody on Instagram. He'll post random people on it.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Now we're going to talk about this. What have I posted?

[Chase]

That you think there's a couple things. Okay, hold on. I'm not going.

[Grayson]

Well, it's hard to keep track because you post. I posted 28,000 stories a day.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I posted for my little friend, Eloise Alterman, who's the singer. Then I posted one for Christa Confessions.

[Chase]

I don't know if it was today.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Then I posted one for my beautiful daughter for Good Girl Rx, which is doing amazing, by the way.

[Grayson]

Free plug.

[Chase]

Then I'm about to invoice.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I posted this one here about this baby slapping the. Out of its mama. I didn't.

[Chase]

No one said it was. It was today. You. You know, you're shady. You know, you're petty.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I really have not been doing anything shady, so I'm. I'm trying to have to go back and look, I posted one here. One day my son will realize why I corrected his attitude, why I didn't tolerate disrespect, and why I pushed him to be better. I'm responsible for the man he becomes, and I'll never stop guiding him, even when he thinks that he doesn't need it. I rest. Ain't no shade on that. If you getting.

[Chase]

That's not the one I'm talking about.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Let me keep looking in. Then I talked about Jasmine the Crock Pot Crockett, thinking she's part of the 500 most powerful.

[Grayson]

God, I can't stand her.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That goes to show you how delusional people are. Jasmine Crockett has classified herself as being one of the 500 most powerful people in the United States.

[Chase]

Who the hell.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You are fired. You're out of a job. No, I don't have anything on there. That was. The last thing I had on there

[Chase]

was that you did post something.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Well, what was it? Talk about it. That's what Two Sons of Me is about. You talk about.

[Chase]

You just. You post shady. For sure you did.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay, then what was it?

[Chase]

It's not up there.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh, but it got Caught you in your feelings? Is that what you're saying?

[Chase]

No, I'm clearly it.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Because you're sitting here bringing it up.

[Chase]

I was just like, what a petty.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Did you see it?

[Grayson]

I don't know. I. I love you to death, but I don't Click through your 700 quotes you post on Instagram.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I do. I post anything that makes me.

[Grayson]

I don't click through, but you are petty.

[Chase]

You're extremely, extremely extreme.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I need you to give the people examples.

[Grayson]

All of us are. Though

[Chase]

I honestly might be the least

[Grayson]

petty now I'm a petty.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh my God, Chase, you are the most petty human being I have ever met in my life.

[Chase]

No, I've grown.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You've grown to be even more petty.

[Chase]

No, no, I have not.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That lies I tell you that.

[Chase]

I've had so many opportunities to be a petty bitch specifically with you, and I have not.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

You can't be petty with me because I can ice you out. We know petty with me. All negativity from my life.

[Chase]

I can. I sell too.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay, I remove all negativity from my life now.

[Chase]

You create a lot of negativity.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I am in my home minding my own business. Y' all bring y' all shit to me. I'm not asking for it.

[Grayson]

Huh? I don't even live in the same state.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah, but you have drama sometimes too that you bring to me that I let you vent and then we move.

[Grayson]

That's about stupid stuff, right?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But it's still y' all talking about me being petty.

[Grayson]

You'd be bored if you didn't have our drama.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Try me.

[Grayson]

Let's see if I. I bring you the least drama.

[Chase]

I don't even bring my drama.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Oh my God.

[Chase]

God.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I don't. Call 91 1, Aaron, please call 91 1. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chase]

You're bug eyed.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah. What? Chase, how do you feel about regarding friendships at this age in your life?

[Chase]

I've got like four friends and I'm good.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I don't need any more. What about you?

[Grayson]

I'm the same way. I have like five or six.

[Chase]

The rest are just in my circle.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Let me let both of you continuously went down. Let me let both of you know something. The older you get, the more that's going to dwindle down. I'm fine with that because I can tell you right now I have literally about 35 best friends. I literally have my. I cannot put five people on my hand that I would say these are the ones that I'm going to die with. I have three that I know I'm riding to the gates of heaven.

[Grayson]

Well, I mean three or four mine I've been friends with since I'm still

[Chase]

up in the air.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm going to heaven. I hate them on miss you. But I'm going to be there.

[Chase]

I'm going in. I've talked. I've had to tolerate you.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay.

[Chase]

They Might give you a little bench outside the gates, but you're not walking in. You.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

What about. How do you. I mean, what is your opinion? And how do you navigate friendships?

[Grayson]

In college, I've always had a small circle.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Right.

[Grayson]

And I just kept it that way.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

That's true.

[Grayson]

Other people. Just acquaintances.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I think that you have to get to a place in your life, or rather, when you get to a place in your life that you realize that not everyone is going to grow with you.

[Grayson]

But also, if I don't like you, you know I don't like you, so

[Todd Grayson Chase]

that's how I am.

[Grayson]

I've made it very clear. I won't even speak to you. Like, you won't get a word out of me.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

How do you feel about harboring resentment?

[Grayson]

No, if I don't like you, I'll. I'll say it.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

But do you hold on to it in your spirit, in your heart? No.

[Grayson]

Most of the time when I say something, I'm done after that.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Yeah, that's. Yeah. No, that's not.

[Chase]

Us two over here. We are harboring.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I'm not God Almighty.

[Chase]

I thought this was about truth and honesty and growth and growing together.

[Grayson]

When have we ever done any of the above?

[Chase]

Well, we're trying. I'm trying. At least,

[Todd Grayson Chase]

folks, I will hold a grudge, and I'm trying to get better at that because I know that the Lord is going to say when I get there, Todd, that you didn't Forgive this. This 39,716 times that you should have. So I'm trying to get to a place to where I can just.

[Chase]

The Bible does tell you to forgive.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

It does. And. And I do. And I. And I say sometimes when I'm praying, lord, I'm asking you to temper my heart and to help me to forg rejects that I have got so much hatred towards. And I, Lord, I ask that you let Mother Nature take control of them and ride all over their face and their bodies. In Jesus name I pray. Amen. And I feel like that that's going to help me get there.

[Grayson]

There's certain. There's certain people that's like praying to win the lottery. I just don't forgive. Huh? There's certain people I just don't forgive.

[Chase]

You have to forgive, but forgive for yourself.

[Grayson]

It's God's job to forgive.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Now the Lord says you have to forgive in order to enter the kingdom of heaven.

[Grayson]

I don't. There's a lot of people and, you

[Todd Grayson Chase]

know, we got to be neighbors, so you got to forgive.

[Grayson]

I'm sure it'll come with age.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

If I can forgive ugly people, then you can forgive other people. I said ugly people, not other people. Well, I want to say that I'm very proud that the podcast is doing so well.

[Chase]

You're welcome.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

And no, you're welcome. You both are doing your lifting. I'm carrying. They're doing some lift.

[Grayson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Chase]

Why don't you just do a podcast with just you sitting here?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I could do that. I could do that.

[Grayson]

Let's see how it goes.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Because if you feel like I could

[Grayson]

do it by yourself, why do you need me for all?

[Todd Grayson Chase]

I feel like I could be the next Mark Levine of podcast. Okay. Because Mark can talk just on his own.

[Chase]

You talk to yourself every day.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Why do you think I have the self confidence that I have? Because I'm certainly not gonna get it from my son.

[Chase]

I don't think it's self confidence. I think it's more of a condition.

[Todd Grayson Chase]

Okay, well, don't cure me this condition. On that note, I love both of you. And until next week, good luck and God bless.

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