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Spiritual Evolution, Alien Contact & Steiner’s Teachings w/ Lois Macaulay - TSP # 1824
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Lois McCauley
Since you want to ask or whatever comes up in this.
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Rob
Okay. Okay, I think we're live now. And it cut up. I, I, I forgot to ask, I forgot to ask you how to pronounce your last name. Lois. Is it McCauley? Is that how you pronounce your last name? McCall?
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Lois McCauley
Macaulay.
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Rob
It's almost like Macaulay, like the actor Macaulay Culkin. Right, exactly.
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Lois McCauley
Spelling. I say Macaulay Culkin. And Lois is Superman's girlfriend. So I'm home alone with Superman.
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Rob
I love that. I love that. That's awesome. Okay, so we have two guys today. We have Lois McCauley with us today. She's a eurythmist, she's an interior designer, and she's a spiritual seeker with over 50 years of study on Rudolph Steiner's mystery school wisdom. Her early spiritual training took place on a galactic consciousness based commune where she explored psychic channeling, energy work and extraterrestrial contact. She teaches eurythmy and the Waldorf teacher training program, leads study groups on Steiner topics, and continues to perform occasionally. With a background in fashion design and metaphysics, Lois spent decades merging spirituality with creative expression. She believes in the ongoing spiritual evolution and is excited to discuss her journey, insights on Steiner's teachings and the intersection of design, energy work and higher consciousness. And with all that said, I'd like to give a big warm welcome to the show for the first time. Lois, thank you so much for coming on for the first time. How are you?
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Lois McCauley
I'm really excited, Rob. I was telling you that I follow your show and it was on your show that I met Matthew Mornian and I've been working with him for a year. We, it's just, he's been a really good force in my life and sort of introduced me to you and said, come on, come on, you've got to go on your show. So here we are.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah, him and, him and Nora, his wife. They're really good people. You know, they, they just seem, they're just like the top of the, I got to meet them in person. You know, I met them at the Full Disclosure now conference and I kind of, I felt like I got along with them the most as well as like Arcane and Sean Bond and, you know, a couple other people that were there and Brian, obviously Brian who throws it the event and stuff, but I mean, you know, Matthew and Anora really, you know, like, I, I consider Matthew like a brother, honestly, like, so when I heard that there was a fire in his house, like, I felt so bad, you know, What? I mean, I wanted to help any way I could.
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Lois McCauley
He was on with me when it broke out.
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Rob
Oh, my God.
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Lois McCauley
We were having a session, and he. He went, oh, my God, Nora, get out, get out, get out.
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Rob
Bye.
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Lois McCauley
And off he went. It was really. When he was talking with me, it was really crazy, and.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
It was crazy. I don't know. I don't. He's told the story, but. Yeah, that's wild. He's had a couple of really strong experiences this year.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really. I mean, he got attacked on my show, you know, I. And I, you know, and I still don't know who did that, but, I mean, we have some ideas as to who might. It might have been. But, I mean, you know, that really pissed me off because, you know, I felt responsible for it because it was my show, but I can't protect people energetically, you know what I mean? Like. But, like, it's almost like I want to go fight whoever did that physically, but, like, I can't, you know, do that. You know what I mean? Because I don't know who it was, but I mean. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, it really made me upset.
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Lois McCauley
I was watching when it happened. Yes, I was part of that, too. I was in the chat watching the show when that happened. That was really crazy.
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Rob
Yeah.
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Lois McCauley
Anyway, we get stronger.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So where does your story start? And. And big shout out to Matthew and Nora. I hope they're doing well, and I hope they see this and, you know, and where does your story start out? Like, where did you want to start off with first? You know, I think you wanted to do a clearing, right? You said you wanted to start. I don't know.
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Lois McCauley
Is anyone game to do Eurythmy? I don't know if anybody in the audience does yours.
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Rob
Well, I'm wondering. I'm wondering if. If it would be good to do it now or if it would be good to do it later, because, like, the more. The more time we're on, the more time the more people are going to tune in. Now, people will always watch this after the fact, but I don't know if you want to have a bigger audience when you do it or would you rather have it now? Because, like, what I'm saying is, if we wait a little bit, it might be better to do it at the end when we have more people. But it's up to you. It's totally up to you.
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Lois McCauley
It sounds fine. What I'll tell you is my story. Well, I have the background that most people on your show do. I was in school. I was pushed forward twice during my schooling. So I graduated college at 19. I was probably before the talented and gifted, but I was in a program that moved me through classes. So I had that similar start. And, you know, I was always a little bit different, a little sensitive, and always felt everybody was talking about me. I had a very different, difficult high school time. But the big thing happened when really when I was in San Francisco, I was. I had a boutique in Toronto, and I opened a second one in San Francisco with fashion. And it was just. It was like two years after the Summer of Love, and that whole resonance was still there. And I was there for a couple of years and. And just taking all that in and fulfilling this first finale came out, that Stevie Wonder album. And I was listening to the album. And music, as you know, is so transformative. Suddenly, I felt my soul. I didn't know I had a soul. I didn't know where it was or what it was, but that there it was a palpable thing. I knew it was a soul, and it was just going like this, you know, kicking up. I said, I've got a storm in my soul. And very soon after, I had my first shocking experience that led me to try and find books on spirituality. And I asked all the people around me, and no one knew how to help me. And I opened that book, Be Here now by Ram Dass. You have to go way back in the way back machine, because I'm in the early. I'm in, like 1972 here.
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Rob
And that was before I was born. I was born in 1980.
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Lois McCauley
So, you know, I'm in your prehistory. So I think, what am I going to do? So I get this book, Ram Dass, and I open it up and it says to meditate. You sit and you open your third eye. And Rob, I went, okay, open your third eye. And didn't the darn thing open just like that. And it said, place Buddha on a lotus blossom in front of you. So I did that, and then all of a sudden, the room just cracked wide open. Now, this may be a bit far out for some of your people, but I was facing the cosmic Christ in full figure in my room, saying to me, no, that's not your path. You're not Eastern meditation. You're. You're one of mine. And with that, I started to shake. And there's, you know, there's so much energy when you get one of those. A strong meeting like that. I ship for almost Three days and I'm going through the yellow pages. Nobody I'm talking to can help me. And I found the Happy Buddha Yoga Studio. And there I went to this yoga studio and I walked in and the yogi master looked at me and went, holy smoke, look at you. And he said, sit in the back of my class. I'll do the class to you. You need to be grounded. You're, you're, the energy is going into the wrong channel. And I understand now it went into my astral body. That's what was making me shake, was like in my electric body instead of grounded. So he did the class and that grounded me. But it really set me on, on.
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Rob
A path, you know, a path of spirituality. You wanted, you wanted and, and, and I'm guessing it wasn't too, you know. What I wanted to tell you was one of the read was Rudolph Steiner. You know, I read that, I knew that from reading your bio. And I just wanted to say that like, Steiner had an early effect on me and my awakening. Like, like during my awakening. Like, see, you know, like I always say, like, you know, back in the 90s and early 2000s, I listened to Art Bell, but like, nobody was talking about like secret space programs or anything highly esoteric or spiritual on Art Bell, you know what I mean? Like, it was just like more like UFOs and paranormal and Bigfoot and stuff like that. You know, like a reincarnation. But like, in 2015, when I had my awakening, I, I discovered Rudolph Steiner. And I realized that back then Rudolph Steiner was talking about aliens. And he was talking about like, you know, heavy, heavy topics that like, I wanted to know about. And I, I, I find a lot of interest in Steiner.
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Lois McCauley
You know, speaking of Steiner and aliens, I'm going to jump out of my story for a moment and say, you know, Vannevar Bush and James Forstall, who were working in the US Government in military oversight during the Second World War and after were in charge of the UFO file. They were, they were putting it together and they were in charge. And someone came to Vannehar Bush and said, tell me about aliens. He said, oh my God, there's so many races. I mean, where do you begin? They said, well, what can I, you know, how can I learn about them? He said, well, read Rudolph Steiner's Occult Science and you'll learn everything you need to know about aliens. I think people don't put that together. And a lot of anthroposophists, if you start to talk about aliens, they go, we don't do aliens, but Steiner talked about them all the time.
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Rob
What exactly is an anthropologist? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. What does that mean?
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Lois McCauley
Rudolf Steiner founded an organization when he left the Theosophical Society, and he chose the name Anthroposophy, Anthropo for man. Anthropos is a man and Sophia is wisdom. So he developed the name Anthroposophy, and he also called his work spiritual science, because that's the one thing about Steiner, he is so precise. His clairvoyance is incredibly deep. I've. You know, in all our. I'm like you, Rob. I. I studied this, I studied that, I studied everything I could get my hands on. You know, you get very. I still do. You have a hungry soul. And. And Steiner was the. Is the deepest reading of the Akasha Chronic that anyone has ever seen. And he charts it down scientifically and develops words and language so that we could get a picture of what's very hard to convey, because these are really spiritual situations and happenings that the English language isn't built for. So he worked very hard at precision and spiritual vision.
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Rob
I love that. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, that's. And, and it's funny you said that, that like, some spiritual people won't accept aliens, but, like, they're, like, at the forefront of all spiritual teachings. You know what I mean? Like, they're. They're basically in the Bible. If you look hard enough, they're in the Gnostic teachings as the archons, or if you want to accept them as, that is, them being archons. They don't. They aren't necessarily aliens, but they could be, you know, there. They could be. The Nephilim could have been aliens. And going back to the Bible, you know, in the Hindu tradition, it seems like aliens are at the forefront, depending on how, again, how you want to interpret things. You know, I mean, some of the gods. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Sorry. Yeah, go ahead.
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Lois McCauley
Yeah, no, go ahead.
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Rob
That.
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Lois McCauley
Sorry, I'm talking over you.
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Rob
And. And I think it's in every religion. You know what I mean? I think they're in every. Every spiritual teaching, you know, so it's like, for me, it's hard not to accept them, you know, and then, you know, I like to, like, get into the galactic stuff where, you know, I like to think that, you know, that all these things we think about, like Pleiadians and Reptilians and Nordics and Arcturians and Andromedans and, you know, I like to think they're all real. You know, I haven't met one yet, but I mean, you know, I'll let you know as soon as I do. But I mean, like, I like to think they're real. But you, you might have had some experiences, right? Or have you or.
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Lois McCauley
Well, my experiences are like, I say they're a little bit different because of. I think it has to do with the framework and the kind of meditations you do and the, the framework of the spiritual path. So I tend if I have visions, they are more cosmic Christian, I would say, or, or archangels or did you know people on this channel. Here's a fun little thing. People on the channel here talk about the Archangel Michael. And really Anthroposophy is out of what they call the Michael School. Rudolf Steiner says in the spiritual world, the Archangel Michael or Michael leads a training school. It's like that's the real mystery school, is Michael's school in the spiritual world that we're reflecting in the mystery schools here. But Michael graduated. He's no longer an archangel, he's an archai. He's on a higher level. And his position was filled the archangel role that he left, the solar archangel was filled by Vidar. So the archangel that we're reaching when you're sort of going towards the solar archangel, the Michael is actually Vidar. And who's Vidar? Vidar was the guardian angel of Buddha.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
And when Buddha graduated, we're all on this path. I mean, it'll be a long time before any of us are Buddhas, but we're on this path. And the angel that was guiding Buddha and training and teaching him and keeping him moving forward on his path. When the Bodhisattva became Buddha, that freed that angel who graduated to the four, to the level of archangel. And he was waiting for the position to be a position to be filled. And Michael graduated to archai. These things are happening all the time. Like that was part of that fulfilling this first finale. Rob, There was a song there called they Won't Go when I Go. All my friends are wanting this and that and this and that, but they won't go when I go. We each make our step when we're individually ready. Right. So it's the same on every level. So the Archangel Michael moved up to be an archive, which is more of a time spirit than a spirit over nations. And Vidar came there and I had a wonderful experience or some meeting Vidar. So this is the kind of thing when I meet extraterrestrials or multi dimensionals. Or I, I tend to go up through that pathway because that's the one going back to my first awakening. That was the one I was guided to. So my visions tend to be of that even. It was really funny. I was on Maui. I've been lived on Maui three times. Three different times. The first time in the, in the new age. And it wasn't a new age commune, it was a cosmic Christian commune under. They were sort of under Archangel Michael, but galactic. So I came into Anthroposophy out of this sort of galactic background and. And then I had. Was almost moving to Maui seven years ago, linking up with an old boyfriend and we were seeing if we could make a go of it. And he was into Zen Buddhism and he took me into the. The. They were doing a weekend or a day long meditation, you know, where you sit and meditate. Then you walk around the room and you sit and meditate. And in that meditation time I had a vision and I had a vision of the Immaculate Conception, the female figure that appeared to the children in Portugal. And she had roses on her feet, you know, and roses in her hands. And I had a vision of her with an understanding of what the roses were there in this Zen temple. And the Zen master was a little bit upset with that. I think he tuned into the fact that I was having this cosmic Christian vision temple. So that's the kind of thing Rob, that happens to me. And I don't know, sometimes they're controversial and I don't realize they're controversial at the time. But I'll find out later that that vision really had a deeper meaning that I saw it. And I'll find out later that it was a controversial topic. But I got to see it firsthand to know what was real. Strange things. But aliens seem to come to me as elemental spirits and angelic spirits and. And yeah, that kind of thing.
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Rob
That's amazing. That's amazing. So do, what do you, what do you feel? What are your thoughts on what the creator is like if you had to guess, Like.
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Lois McCauley
Well, all the alien races. Oh, I have been up in a ufo. I have found. I've been teleported into a ufo. So it's not like really. Yes, yes, I've seen them. You'd sit on the beach on Maui and they just appear in the multi colors in, in a cloud. You know, they generate a cloud around their energy field and then all of a sudden this little odd. Odd shaped cloud is glowing in different colors around. That would happen a lot. Well, around that commune being it was the whole idea of the commune was given to Alan Noonan, who called himself Alan Michael, after that was given to him by him meeting galactic beings in the desert in a ufo. He had. He was guided to meet them in the desert and they taught him the galactic lifestyle and said his task was to set that lifestyle up on Earth. And that's what he did. It was amazing, Rob. It was a really beautiful lifestyle, very pure, very lofty. We didn't. No one owned anything. We didn't have any personal possessions. You. You took what you needed only and you served with whatever your skills were. Because I was a fashion designer, we had a boutique, a fashion boutique called Far Outfits in Lahaina, that's no longer there. And we had a restaurant called Cafe paradise in Lahaina. And the revenue from those two things generate the money we needed to live. And we had an organic garden and I had a sewing studio. And we'd have a schedule, and you were always moving through on the schedule. And I wasn't good at cooking, so I. I'd be the student in the cooking school of experience. It was all a university. And the person who was a good cook, I would assist them and I'd learn organic cooking. And then same for me in the garden. But if someone was coming into the sewing studio, I'd be teaching them sewing because that was my thing. So each one of us gave what we knew and we learned what we didn't know. And it was. It was wonderful. The. The main ideal was love is service done. To love is to serve. And you're serving the evolving highest self of the person you're meeting. So you're striving to see through the masks and through the flaws to who they are at their core. And you serve that to unfold it. And that was our, you know, that was our principle of life. It was amazing. Can you imagine not owning anything? And you took the clothes you need from the store and you got the food you needed from the restaurant. I mean, it was just. The whole thing worked so beautifully.
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Rob
And you're on the beach. You're on the beach, probably. So you probably got to have an amazing life on the beach.
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Lois McCauley
We were on the beach and we had lots of free time to go to the beach, lots of free time to meditate and meet with one another. And we were telepathic, and so if somebody was having a bad time, you could feel it. And we say, you know, John is falling out of the energies. So who was close to John? So whoever had been, you know, because you resonate more with one person at one time and another person. So they'd be sent over to take John for a walk on the beach or whatever John liked to do. He'd go for a coffee in town and hear what was wrong with John and lift him back up into the galactic universal thought space. Feeling space. It was lovely.
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Rob
I love that.
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Lois McCauley
Yeah, it was great. It lasted for 35 years. That commune went for 35 years.
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Rob
Wow, that's amazing. Did you meet a lot of interesting people, I'm guessing.
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Lois McCauley
Oh, everybody comes through Maui. It's just one of those things that. And I was there at sort of the beginning of the New age, so it was really fun. We were meeting. I don't know, I was sort of making. The Course in Miracles was just written. And when I went back seven years later, people were really into this Course in Miracles and that's what they were doing. Be here now, of course, Ram Dass lived there. The whole Earth catalog had just been written and everybody was using that. The Findhorn, you know, the commune in. In Great Britain that's still going. Findhorn. We were in communication with them. We were in communication with the other communes. There was one called the Family and, you know, you'd communicate back and forth with the other spiritual communities.
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Rob
And was this before the Internet, like? It was. This was. Was this obviously way before.
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Lois McCauley
I'm talking 1972 to 1976. Wow.
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Rob
Wow. Again, before I was born. Yeah.
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Lois McCauley
And I went back. If I left 76 and 7, I went back in, like, 83, maybe. Yeah, 84. I went back and I was invited to stay then because Joseph Gunsinger, who was on the. In Anthroposophy, there's a central body in Switzerland. Steiner moved the Anthroposophical Society to Switzerland during the First World War because it was neutral and it, you know, got them out of the. The line of fire. And. And also he was offered a piece of land in Switzerland to build a center on. So there is. It still today is where the governing body is, the council, the four star. And Joseph Gunsinger was on the council and he was retiring. He signed the Eurythmic diplomas and he was. The artistic work, the stage and the Eurythmian speech and drama. And he came through. I was studying Eurythmia in Spring Valley. When he came through Spring Valley on his way to Maui to. To see if that was a place he was going to build his new home and finish his. His magnum opus before he died. He knew he was dying. He had a heart condition. And so he came to Spring Valley and here this. I mean, this really nobleman. His family was a watchmaking family in Switzerland. They had, you know, from this wealthy noble family. And he comes in and he finds out that I was just on Maui. I left Maui and started my arrhythmic training. So he asked to have a private meeting with me. And everybody's going, oh, my gosh, I get these crazy things, Rob. I meet the craziest people. So I met him there and I hooked him up with real estate people and people to talk to on Maui. And then when I went back to Maui on vacation from. I was then in the stage group in Nuremberg. After I finished my training, I managed to have a position in the stage group. And I went with one of the girls on vacation, Ad de Florence, the French girl, and I went on vacation to Maui. And of course, you always. We always visit the other anthroposophists in the town and certainly other Eurythmists and somebody on the forest on you would. It would be compulsory to go and meet them and have tea with them. So that's what we did. And he invited us to stay. He asked. I must say, he asked Ad first she said no, she couldn't leave Proskauer. And then he asked me if I would move to Maui and work with him on Eurythmy, because he needed. He was getting writer's blocks and he needed breakthrough. So I got to go and live on Maui and he gave me a free class, a lesson every week, and what he called postgraduate Eurythmy. And just doing Eurythmy with me inspired him to finish his Planets, you know, Holstrote. The planets. So Joseph Gunsinger wrote his Planets. He was amazing. He was only. His wife said he's only half human. You know, he was very funny. We'd do tours around the islands with these little Eurythmian music programs we did, and he'd invariably forget to bring a wallet or anything else. And his wife would say, take your credit card, take some money. I'll pay you back when you get back. Because Joseph just did not function on that level. He was very funny, but a spiritual master if there ever was one. So I. I've been fortunate, Rob. I. My life has led me to a lot of really good teachers.
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Rob
I love that. That's awesome. And I guess we. I was. I was checking the Rumble Chat to see how many people we have over there. We have like 20 people watching on rumble and 15 people watching on YouTube. We could. We could do either Eurythmy. Now, if you want. If you think or did you want to get into something else next, Whatever. Whatever you'd like to talk about next, we can talk about.
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Lois McCauley
Well, let's do a little bit of Atlantis and Lemuria, because I'm watching. I'm watching your show, Rob, and people are talking about Atlantis as if we were in bodies like this in Atlantis. And so I had a feeling that it would be great to bring Steiner's teaching on Atlantis from him reading the Akashic Record and reporting again in incredible detail. It took five podcasts to cover it. The first time I did it with Rob McKay, who's one of the leading figures in anthropology here in Canada. And together we presented this Atlantis story and we didn't record it, and he had so many requests for it that he said, do it again, but I'm too busy. So, Rob, Grant Davis and I did it, and I'll provide you a link so people can watch that because that we cover Atlantis in detail. And now we're working on Lemuria. And so I just wanted to say one of the most. The first aha moment for me, even coming out of this galactic commune into the anthroposophical circle around the eurythmic training, was hearing lectures about the fact that our bodies have only been like this in the very recent times that we were smaller and denser. Even in 1750, we're getting bigger again. But when you go back to Atlantis, we did not have physical bodies. These were. We didn't have what we call a mineral body. It wasn't filled in with substance like this. Our bodies were. In the beginning, they were really more in the astral light and slowly coming down and filling in with substance. And Steiner speaks of the bodies as watery and more head. We start out, if you think of the way a child is born in the woman's womb, it starts as a head. And he said, really the first thing to form is this head. And the Atlanteans have these giant encephalitic heads, you know, those really watery heads and. And the skin.
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Rob
A hydrocephalic. Like a hydrocephalic.
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Lois McCauley
Is that how you say it? So they. Their heads were really big and. And they were translucent, and the skin was just kind of like this translucent mesh. And the body out of it was just fluid. It wasn't. The limbs, everything were just like this fluidness. They weren't really formed. Like in the woman's womb, the head forms first and you just have these little appendages. For limbs and. And the form that the body and the limbs would take would change completely if you. Your mood changed. I mean, it was really fluidic, plastic, plasmic. And that we didn't have. Even towards the end of Atlantis, we had more cartilage than bone. So slowly the vision of it is there in the astral light. Complete, really, as. As well as the higher spirit beings are. Are installing these various elements in our being, that's in the astral light. But it takes time for it to radiate down. And the whole Earth started again just as a vapor. Steiner speaks of substance even in Lemuria. Beginning of Lemuria, it was only as substantial as smell. The. If you've got a rose and you smell it, the substance coming through the air, that allows you to smell the rose. That's how substantial it was at the beginning of Lemuria. The substance.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
Was fumes. And then slowly that congeals and takes on form, and then the whole Earth is doing the same thing. But we can only make bodies out of Earth's substance. If you think of it that way, we have to take in the substance of the physical Earth. So if the Earth is a molten mass and just. Or like in the beginning of Atlantis, just like mud, soft mud, that's as substantial as the bodies can possibly be. So we have to go back and I. I ask people if they. To watch those three videos that Grant and I did. They're really kind of fun. I have maps of Atlantis from four different.
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Rob
Where was it? That's, That's. That's. That's what I mean. Like, some people think that it was like that the world was Atlantis at one point, that, like, you know, that America' was. That maybe all the land masses were connected. You know, maybe that. That's why they say there's Egyptian writing in. In. In the Grand Canyon, or Egyptians came here and traveled. You know, I. I don't know. You know, I mean. I mean, they don't tell us our real history. And that was one of my. You know, I always tell people the re. One of the reasons why I started this podcast is I wanted to find out, you know, what happens when we die. And then I want to find out what our real history is, because I feel like to know where you're going, you have to know where you came from. You know what I mean?
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Lois McCauley
And that's why I think Atlantis and Lemuria are really important, because certainly Atlantis. Now, Atlantis is a cautionary tale. Look what happened by the end of it. The black Magicians had taken over.
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Rob
I heard that, yes, they heard they were doing like experiments with chimeras and stuff like that, right?
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Lois McCauley
Absolutely. Well, they had been creating. The banana was created in Atlantis. They were create. They were very creative at shaping nature. They had a will that actually worked straight into nature and they could move and change things through Will. Do you have a screen share ability? I've got a map of Atlantis here.
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Rob
Yeah, you can, you can, you can. I'll walk you through it. It's really easy. So what you do is you click present and then you hit share screen and then it's going to ask you to share screen again. It's a blue button. You hit that blue button and then it's going to ask you whatever you'd like to share. You select that drop down box and you click it. Usually I share entire screen and then you hit allow and then that should add it to the bottom of my screen and I'll pull it up on the screen.
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Lois McCauley
Okay, Share Chrome tab. Entire screen. Okay, Share.
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Rob
Did you hit allow? You gotta hit allow. And then it'll, it'll, it'll pop up on the bottom of my screen. I'll be able to add it to the. No, Just so you know, it's gonna share your entire screen. So it's gonna share your entire computer screen.
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Lois McCauley
Do you see what's on my screen?
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Rob
No, not yet.
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Lois McCauley
Share.
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Rob
I, I gotta share. Then hit share again in the blue. Then it'll bring you to a pop up box and you hit entire screen. Then you hit allow.
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Lois McCauley
I'm not getting the alone.
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Rob
Let me see. Okay, so I, I mean I hit present, then I hit share screen and then I hit share screen again. And then it share screen. Oh, wait, yeah. And then you, you got to pull that from that drop down window and you got to click entire screen. And then the blue allow button should come up and then once you hit that allow button, it'll.
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Lois McCauley
Ah, I just lost it. I popped right out of it. Oh, can you see?
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Rob
I got it. Okay, you got it. You did it. You did it.
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Lois McCauley
Good, Good. This is Atlanta. This is from a theosophist. This is 1 million years ago to the catastrophe of 800,000 years ago. Atlantis is in red. And you see the black outline is the world the way it is today. So do you see here? Here's the U.S. south America.
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Rob
So we were Atlantis. We really were Atlantis.
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Lois McCauley
Atlantis. Do you see how much of the US it covered? And Alaska. And here's the central part in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and the Green is lemuria. So they talk about lemuria being here in Asia, south of Asia. So there's an Australian. And Atlantis was the world. They're right. And here's the second map. There was a catastrophe. So the earth was very mal. You know, it was shifting. It was shifting a lot. And land was rising and falling. And this was the next map. And. And here you can see that it's coming into this central part is getting stronger that to the catastrophe of 200,000 years ago. And then this is the shape and it's starting to be these two main islands. And a lot happening up here in the Celtic area. And then the final. There it is. So here's the main island of Atlantis. It's no longer there. And the Sahara desert. You know, Rob, under the sands in the Sahara desert, they're finding these circular cities and pyramids and things. So that was. That was that. And Steiner goes right through the seven sub races of Atlantis and where their descendants are today. And you know, some of the descendants of Atlantis, you can see they're dressing like the spiritual beings that they're still seeing. And these are.
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Rob
Would you. Would you consider the people from. Where's that place in Europe? I'm trying to think of that. They have the. They have the. The large makeup of Haplox. Not the Haplo X group, but the. No, the, the. The Rh negative blood. They're from Europe. They're. They're. They're. Oh, man. Robert Sephard talks about them. Anybody in the chat. Someone help me because I had a mind slip. I hate when this happens. They're. They're. They're like a tribe, you know, from Europe and they're, uh. They have the high percentage of, um, negative Rh negative blood. If anybody could help me, please, anyone out there, because I hate when this happened. Let me look it up on my phone. No, you knew you're on the right track. I'm talking about a subsect. Yeah, they're called the. Oh, man. I'm guessing they would probably be. Those people would probably be. I'm guessing those people would probably be Atlanteans. I just got to think of their name now because that's going to drive me nuts. You know what I mean? I do. It's gonna drive me. It's gonna. That's gonna drive me completely nuts.
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Lois McCauley
Is it the. Oh, no, I forget the name. The people who are in this at the Basque.
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Rob
Basque. Thank you, Melinda.
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Lois McCauley
Yes, the Basque. The Basque are descendants of Atlantis and they, they have a language Separate from everyone else? Yes. We cover them in our talk. The Basque are definitely descendants of Atlantis.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
Descendants of one of the races.
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Rob
What about people from, like, the Mediterranean area? Like, would they be as. Was everybody in the world, basically, or like, what?
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Lois McCauley
Everyone. Because the Atlantis, when it. When it was going down, the seven root races left from Atlantis and went in all directions into the world. And there's something even funnier about. Yes. So Atlantis seeded the tribes, the seven root races that then evolved into what we have today.
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Rob
I got a question. Do you. Do you believe that? Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. I got to ask you this. This is really important. Do you feel like Anky, the Anunnaki. Anky was. Was the. The. The. The. The main God of Atlantis? The reason being there was. I used to follow this guy named Gerald Clark. He died. He wrote books on the Anunaki, and he thought that Anki was actually Poseidon. And he thought, pos. There's a. There's a l. Legend that goes back that Poseidon founded Atlantis and he married a human named Cleito, you know, supposedly, and they had sons, which were the Titans. Right. And I. I'm sure you know this legend. I don't know how much of it's true, but I mean. And then people. So people make the connection between Anki of. Of the Anunnaki and then Poseidon and. And that whole lore. Like what. What do you. What do you think? I'm going with what I just said.
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Lois McCauley
Well, the stories that Steiner tells line up with that perfectly, that humans, as we're developing, we're being developed by higher spiritual beings. And at times, like in Lemuria, we couldn't do anything. We were being moved around by higher spiritual beings. In Atlantis, we had our identity. We're developing a personality, we're developing our own cultures, but we're being taught by higher beings. Say. Well, you have to kind of go right through Steiner here, but say beings from. From Venus, from Mars, from Jupiter, and were here teaching us. And also higher spirit beings actually had to incarnate to guide humanity through our next levels. And yes, there was intermarriage, inter weaving. And yes, it's all there in his story. So these stories all have a foundation. The. The myths all have a foundation in cosmic history. Absolutely. And during the Atlantic. Oh, there's a fun story, Rob, that I was saying that human beings were incarnating into these very vaporous bodies. And this is going into Lemuria. And that at one point, as things are congealing, and hardening the mix of the substances in this earth mud, this living earth mud, that our life forms just came right up out of it. We weren't in sexes, we didn't have to. We just divided or pushed out beings out of ourselves or they emerged out of the fertile Earth itself. And the substance got too difficult for humans to incarnate into. They'd come in and they couldn't get into these bodies. So they had to go. We human beings involved with the Earth had to go and live on the various planets. Some of us went to Mars, some of us went to Jupiter, some Venus, Saturn. So we were shopped out and lived on these other planets. And during the lemur then the moon was extracted from the Earth. All these over hard substances were drawn together. I've got little videos on this on my, on my own little podcast how the these all under the spiritual beings are separating out the resonance of these substances that are a problem that are causing humans to not be able to incarnate. So it would be the end of our evolution. They draw them out and pull them together and this bubbles out of the earth as if it's a pregnant body. And through the Pacific Ocean the moon is removed and ejected and becomes our satellite. And then slowly these we on the other planets start to come back. And particularly in Atlantis, humans are able to enter human bodies again. So they're slowly coming back in. And this is what's forming the different races that. And to teach these humans who are coming into Earth and need to be guided in their evolution. The superior being from Mars would come and teach in the Mars school, form a little group, a little community that would be taught by the Mars mysteries. And then a Venus high Venus being would come and take human form and teach in the Venus school. And this is what Atlantis was. One of the maps that I showed you briefly has on it where the different settlements were for the different humans returning from their planet sojourns. And also in these mystery centers we could see, we saw in the astral. We had astral sight, we had. We didn't have the clear thinking that we do now. Our thinking was really, you know, when you're really spaced out and in. In cosmic thinking at the end of Atlantis, that's sort of where we were. We were really. You could see the gods, you could work with them. You knew, you knew Poseidon was there and that you were working with the forces of the sea or you were working with the forces, forces of the trees. They actually grew their houses. The second subrace they Grew their houses by training the trees into houses, they get the trees to grow and actually make houses through their will. It was a whole different phenomena. But by the end, they did have spaceships and crystal technology, and that's what they had, the technology that we now have again. So, Rob, that's why it's so important to get Atlantis clear. I think people are realizing that we have Atlantean technology and in the wrong hands, it's a very dangerous thing. It took us down in the past, it can take us down again. So we've got to be very careful as this technology that, you know, I'm going to be careful with language because of your program, but that there are groups of people working in the world, corporations and so forth, government agencies who have this technology now. And we just, we need to get it into, into health, giving hands. You know, are you, are you radiating health or are you manipulating things to do your will? I think that's the. We need to get it in the hands of those radiating health and wanting the evolution of humanity. And some of it's in the hands of those who are using it to stop us from doing that and manipulate us. So that's the Atlantean battle. It's happening again. So. So I think it's really important to look at Atlantis. Steiner wrote a book called Cosmic Memory. It's the first one I found of his. It was on a bookcase in the commune on Maui. And I found that no one in the commune knew where it came from and they weren't reading it. So that's sort of what took me off into a new tangent. Cosmic Memory has chapters on Atlantis and Lemuria and.
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Rob
Ok, can people get this book now? Can people.
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Lois McCauley
I'm sorry, can people get this free online? You just go to Rudolph Steiner archive.org I believe, or dot com, I'm not sure, Rudolf Steiner Archive, and then type. And then you'll see all the titles listed and whatever. Or you go to Rudolph Steiner Audio and you can listen to the podcast. So it's great to have. Like I say, his vision was so clear that, I mean, he's telling you exactly who the seven root races are. Who, who, who? The descendants of them are. The Aztecs descended from these. The American Indians descended from those. You know, he's very clear. The Celts descended from that. And, oh, another point I want to bring up is that during Atlantis, it was in seven races. We are also in seven post Atlantean races. We're in number five right now. And the ancient Persian, the ancient Indian, the Egypto Chaldean. You know, we go through them this way and we're the fifth. And in the fifth is where the people who are going to seed the whole next evolution are drawn out. And Atlantis, a great spirit leader called Manu chose those who he could see had the seeds in them to be able to develop the capabilities that we're working with now. And he removed them out of Atlantis, out of harm's way and into the Gobi Desert, you know, over there, and trained them. And that was in the fifth root race. And they were developed then through thousands and thousands of years later as those who would be the great teachers of the different races when, when all the people had to leave Atlantis. So there was always a seeding going on. They were going out from the main body and carrying the wisdom out to other countries. Every, every nation has their folklore, if you go way back of the gods coming both from the sea. And those were the Atlanteans. They went to North America, South America, they went to Europe, they went to Africa, Australia, New Zealand. So that all went to the Mongolians, went out to the East. And so, yeah, it's a fascinating history and it clears things up about what was happening in Atlantis and in Lemuria answers that great story about the moon. The moon is not a space station. It has a ton of space stations on it. But it was birthed out of the Earth because the substances were too hard for human bodies to continue our evolution. So that was removed. And also it was like all the planets were removed to form a platform, a place for beings to evolve themselves further. So the, the beings of Mars and Jupiter and Mercury were all part of us in the beginning. They evolved a little more quickly than those of us who are here on Earth. So their planets were taken off to provide a platform, a living space for them to evolve at their speed. The beings on the sun evolve way too fast for us. So we've got the Earth evolving at a speed that we can handle.
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Rob
Yeah, that's amazing. We did have a question from the audience. Andromedan wants to know. He says, Andromedan says. Do you think that, does this guest think in Atlantis there were races off world?
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Lois McCauley
That's what we were saying. Yes. The, the races of Atlantis did come from off world. They were, we human beings coming certainly from the other planets and beings from further afield have always been working in. We are, we are the creation of higher beings. And like the story I told about the angel of Buddha who graduated to Archangel Hood Every time we're evolved to another level, the beings who were working on us upgrade. So really what they're giving to us is their lowest substance. We won't have a physical body in our next round, so we'll give our physical substance over to the elemental beings that we're creating now through our actions and we'll, and then we'll just have our light bodies. So the angels gave their substance to us so that they could move forward and so forth and so on. So each, each range of beings is, is working on their projects below them. Like we do gardening, like we train our pets and, and house train them. I, I often didn't have a pet. I have a little pet now, but I said, I don't need a pet. I'm the pet. My angel is walking me around and pooping me and, and making sure I don't eat the wrong thing and all of that. So we are like the responsibilities of higher beings. And they graduate when they get it right. And if they get it wrong, they fall.
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Rob
Wow, that's interesting.
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Lois McCauley
Dealing with fallen angels and fallen archangels and fallen archai are the most dangerous. I wonder, I've been wondering what archons are. The fallen archai are called azuras and they're the very difficult, dark entities. They're the kind who overshadow an Azura. Overshadowed Hitler for instance. They're the kind who we can always have walk ins, you know, would it.
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Rob
Be like a demon? Would it be like a demon or something like that?
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Lois McCauley
I'm afraid it ranks a little higher than that, Rob. Little scarier than demon. They are.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
These spiritual entities who have fallen out of their rightful line of development and are here, you know, screwing things up.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
So we're.
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Rob
That's, that's amazing.
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Lois McCauley
We're. But it's all for our growth. You know, we have to have challenges to grow and we. Sure we have a nice little challenge planet here. And I think we're a focus of. Don't you feel like we're a focus of attend attention right now because we're going through such a big shift?
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Rob
Yeah, I do. And I think that, I think there's nothing like this has ever happened before in the history of the world be maybe but before in Atlantis, that was it. But like not in this. Not in this. The current, like, you know, sir, I don't think that, you know, maybe in the times of the hippies, but I think the CIA tried to put a stop to that, you know, but I think they still found a way to spiritually evolve. And then now. Now with the. I think with the aid of technology. You know, I think technology is a big force in this because it can connect so many people and it can connect so many ideas. You know, a lot of people think technologies evil, like it is to a certain degree, but it also can be a big help in. In our spiritual evolution because, like, it can. It can. It can bring ideas together fast so we can, like, we can learn and people can be informed about things. And, you know, I don't know, it's almost a way to, like, fight to get back against the bad guys, you know, Like, I don't know. You know, like, if it's used the.
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Lois McCauley
Right way, that's the key. It's here. It's not going away. But we have to learn to control it and not have it control us. And I think we're all learning that lesson now. To not get addicted to. And I fight that fight, too. To not get addicted to. Spending too much time on the Internet doing something or another or social media or all that. But to use it. I mean, here we are doing these programs, and they're. They're really, you know, we're sharing information that's really helpful. So, yeah, it's how we use it.
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Rob
I agree. I agree 100%.
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Lois McCauley
There are some dark forces behind it, but we have to take it and make it our own and use it. Absolutely.
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Rob
Yeah. There's one. So many. Diaries of a wandering artist. Good to see you. I think she was in my old. I think she was in my old chat. I. I swear she was. And then I saw her in the show I did with our team yesterday. But glad to see her here. She says she comes from the second rise of Atlantis. Then she's reincarnated here a few times.
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Lois McCauley
Absolutely. I think she's remembering. We were all there. We were all there in Atlantis, and some of us are remembering it and. Diaries of a wandering artist.
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Rob
I know. I was just thinking that I gotta follow that channel. That sounds like a really cool channel. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look that up right now, actually, on my phone, and I'm gonna give her a follow. Like, you know.
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Lois McCauley
He did something special. She, you know, she had a strong role to play and the second rise of Atlantis, and she's bringing that now. A lot of Atlanteans are here now. People who played major roles then have got to be here now because this is what we're going through. Edgar Cayce, what did he do? Thousands of readings on people who he recognized from Atlantis and told them their story. And he was saying that people are coming in now, really. We have to remember who we were to be able to function now. We have to remember. That's the main thing about learning this cosmic history is we're reintegrating things kind of like. I don't know, Rob, if you've traveled in the world, felt compelled to go somewhere, and you felt like you picked up part of yourself there for maybe a past life.
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Rob
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, I haven't got to travel outside the US Much, but a lot on the east coast, you know, I have a tie to, like, the Atlantic Ocean for some reason, you know, Like, I don't know what it is, but.
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Lois McCauley
You know, speaking of the. Of Atlantis. Yes. Huh.
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Rob
Yeah. Is that where. Do you think that's where the Atlantic Ocean comes from? Was it from Atlantis, do you think?
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Lois McCauley
Like, Atlantis sank? It's under the Atlantic Ocean, you know, and it's. So that's probably what it's rising again, you know, Bimini, there's that Bimini Road that's come up. It's 10ft underwater, and there's a hot zone. You're the military have control over, I think, the Poseidia area, so that people can't be reporting on everything that's there. But Dark Journalist. Do you know the Dark Journalist?
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Rob
Yeah, I like Dark Journalist. I've watch his show sometimes.
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Lois McCauley
He covers that really, really well. The hot zone where Atlantis is rising again. And there's a woman whose name, of course, escapes me right now, who was sent there to work underwater, and she discovered a city, a whole city of pyramids and. And circular buildings off of Bimini, off of Cuba, actually. And she reported it and they put her into jail in Cuba. She had. They let her out of jail and she fled to Canada and has no way talking to dark journalists. Her things were reported in the science journals when she first discovered them, and then they realized what they were. And, and the. The.
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Rob
Is this on a recent Dark journalist? Is this, Is this. Is this on a recent episode of the Dark Journalist? Yes, I'll have to check that out. I haven't been watching like, like, lately. I. I will check that out because you got me interested. So, yeah. We have another question from the audience.
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Lois McCauley
The shows on the. Look up the Hot Zone. Show us on the Hot Zone and he covers it.
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Rob
This is from my friend. Oh, sorry. This one's from my friend Jim Gerard. He's also an artist and he's been on my show a bunch of times. And he says. He says when did humans become solid?
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Lois McCauley
We became solid in the Atlantean development. I think the early Atlantis were watery and then we slowly take in more of the mineral fill out with minerals and our bodies were. Steiner says you wouldn't believe what we looked like. You know, fish with legs, all kinds of strange creatures. And you know, we were shape shifters. But then slowly as the soul, as the human soul comes to take over the body, be penetrating through it, we were just floating above and we were literally floating above the land or the whatever the earth was, the wateriness. And then slowly we came into incarnation and that was what formed more the body. So about the middle of Atlantis were actually in bodies and were gardening and were building buildings. The rocks were also light and soft. Things hadn't mineralized. People think the, the pyramids in Egypt were built in the mid late Atlantis period. It was the White Brotherhood. According to the Theosophist, the White Brotherhood was having trouble keeping their realm functioning properly with all the dark magicians coming up. So they moved to land that was forming in Egypt and they built the pyramid, they built Giza and they built the pyramids. They were built actually in the middle of Atlantis, sort of just after the midpoint of Atlantis. So that's when we got our physical, you know, harder physical bodies. But you have to really also think that they still were not hard like we are now. They were still far more ethereal, far more. The substances of the Earth weren't what we have now. We can only build our body out of what's there in Atlantis. In the beginning, the water and the air and the Earth weren't really that separated. The Earth was watery and the air was watery and the water was much heavier than it is or much lighter, the air much heavier. The earth was a soup and then it was in at towards the end of Atlantis. That's a story of Noah where you get the rainbow. The rainbow happens when the fogs separate out and you get really air separating from water. And the mists of Avalon, these are tales that go back. That's the Celtic side of Atlantis. That land from the Celtic land. Ireland is probably one of the very few pieces of land from Atlantis that didn't disappear or completely change in that whole region. So Ireland has something very special. And the mist of Avalon is the story of when the air was so thick and misty that you couldn't have a rainbow. The sun didn't come through it the way it does now. And our airships. This is a good time to rob to talk about the UFOs of Atlantis. People are looking for UFO technology from Atlantis. But Steiner spoke about it. He said the Atlantean technology, he called them the airships. We didn't have the term UFO in 1920. Said the airships wouldn't function if you got that technology today. People are trying to find it because the air and the water were united. The air was so thick that to get around, we. We kind of swam more. And the airships were going through this thick fog and. And when we looked at each other, you didn't see. Took a while to see the physical bodies. We saw an aura, the light field in a fog. As if we saw a light in a fog. We saw auras of people. And something dark in the middle would tell you and the color of it would tell you if it was friend or foe. And it was just, you know, in the later part of Atlantis, our eyes open. That's that whole story of the fall. Lucifer was very busy and Armand, they come into. Lucifer comes into Lemuria and Ahriman and Atlantis. These two opponents that we do.
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Rob
You know what, Lois, I wanted to ask you something. This is off. This is not off, but because it might go back up. My friend Derek had a question for you. He wanted you to ask you. He said why do you think aliens are abducting people nowadays and hiding in the shadows? Do you think it ties into our history? Like does it have something to do with some of these evil beings you talked about? Like, like that, that, like that are in our reality. Like does it tie into our history? I guess what I'm saying, you know.
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Lois McCauley
I go back to this is more recent history. Going back to the deals made between the governments and the visiting alien races because we were ready to receive. It all goes to being ready to receive the technology and what deals were made. I think that the abductions really have to do with the deals that were made with the aliens who are offering. We're ready for the technology. We're actually. I don't think they had to give it to us. Our inventors were coming to it. So that's when they started interacting with us. The human beings capabilities, the scientific capabilities, the. The spiritual intermixing, science and spirit intermixing led humans. I don't think, you know, people talk about alien technology. We were coming to it. That's why they came to us. But I want to go back what to something very important with this. Lucifer and Ahriman, these two opponents are trying to build a world. People talk about a soul trap as just incarnating in the Earth. But we go through this beautiful cycle through the planets. Every time we leave our body, we cycle through the planets and, and work on what we've learned in this lifetime and prepare our next one and what missions we're going to do with higher beings and come in. That's no soul trap. The soul trap is the working of the Luciferic beings who fell on the previous incarnation of the Earth called Old Moon. And they work into our astral body. They, the higher beings were working on our ego configuration, on our individuality. The Luciferic beings were supposed to be working on that, but they fell and could only reach into our astral body. So they made us want to be individual and have these desires and longings in the astral body that weren't so supposed to be there. The armonic beings are from further away in the galaxy and they came in during Atlantis and brought this desire for control. They're all about no soul. They want. They don't want humans to have a soul. We want to be. They want us to be automatons, soulless automatons, which is beginning to happen, as you know. That's this harmonic principle. That's this. Chip them and, and install mechanisms in the human body and kill the soul and get rid of the soul and, and take the humans. And then when we die, we don't go through the cycle of the planets. We go into what's called the eighth sphere. And that's a false planet that's being built right now all around ours. It extends to the moon. So it's. It's big things always start big and then congeal. But that's the soul trap. If you are living your life today in a completely materialistic way and you've shut yourself off to any divine feelings or longing for knowledge and truth, you will end up in this eighth sphere. You won't be able to. Your soul won't be able to go through the cycle of the planetary realms to come back again. Lucifer and Armand capture it and take it into this false world they're building, which is. I mean the Metaverse is a perfect example of it. That's building these. This a false self in a false environment. We have to be very careful. It is being built around us. Steiner was talking about it in the 1920s and I don't know how people could understand what he was talking about. A false world being built up through technology and, or Lucifer. What he does is he evolves people too quickly. He does a quick evolving and he says, okay, I'm going to Give you all of this and you're going to be great. And I'm going to make you. You. You'll be able to do concerts at 200,000 people are there. Can you imagine standing there and having 2,000 people looking at you and giving their energy to you? That is a training to be able to sustain yourself through that. And these are trainings and development too quickly. And if you do that, you, you harden. Any artist knows you don't want to develop too quickly. You harden at an early stage. So those beings are also going into the eighth sphere. It's those who have lost their humanity and lost their desire for spirit and lost their soul and those who've lost their natural evolutionary process. So this is all being harvested now. It's really happening. You can feel that. You can feel the world dividing.
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Rob
I, I agree. I agree 100%. I was going to say we have Colin and Collins says, was this one of Steiner's major teachings? He said, yes, it was. Right. This was one of his major teachings. Correct.
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Lois McCauley
He taught about the armonic materialistic spiritualism. He taught about, be careful of technology. You've got to control it. Don't let it control you. He was very clear. He saw all this happening. He even said, I think he was so frustrated. Right, Rob? Because, you know, each. We're always evolving. The Starseeds are coming in with much more abilities than my parents had. There's always this evolution and the people around. He was so frustrated because he'd give these lectures and people, it would just go. They didn't know what he was talking about. He said, our time will come again in a hundred years. He passed away in 19 or in, yeah, 1924. So.
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Rob
Wow. So it's, it's a hundred years. The time is. It is now.
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Lois McCauley
And we have the capability to hear what he was saying. He was saying this harmonic demon, this being more than a demon, demons are under him. Who wants to control humanity and prevent us from evolving our higher spiritual. We, we're evolving our angelic presence. Our angels are coming down and into us and we're getting our angelic capacities. That's the higher self that's happening. And there's this force that's trying to prevent it. And he's describing it over and over again. And if you look at the descriptions, it's a checklist for what's going on today. So now.
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Rob
And I, I, Jim Gerard ones. And he followed up. He says, he says, will the pyramids come back online? Do you feel.
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Lois McCauley
Oh, what a good question. I direct you to Dr. Joseph Farrell, who has done.
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Rob
I think he's good. I love Dr. Joseph Farrell. That's a good one. That's a good response.
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Lois McCauley
He's done such good work on the pyramids. The pyramids, though, coming online. I'm. I'm going to show you something. They, they are coming online on another level. We're all having to. When you're meeting aliens, you're meeting them on another dimension. And here's what I discovered about the pyramids. Let me show you in Eurythmy, there's a gesture I'm going to get back here, of earnestness. And you stand with one hand straight, elbow straight across and the other under it. And if I stand in earnestness, I realized I was standing like this and I'm building a triangle. And the point of the triangle is my third eye. This is our pyramid. Our third eye says Rudolf. Rudolf Steinheit says the pineal gland is a pyramid and it's sitting in brain sand. It is a faceted pyramid. And if you meditate that, if you go in and picture a pyramid sitting in brain sand, it's amazing how the outer world has a reality inside. Always, always. It's a fabulous meditation. And that's the pyramids, Jim, coming back online. Absolutely. It's the pyramid online now because that's physical. We're working now on the spiritual plane. So the pyramid back online is. Stand with your hands like this and feel the triangle, or sit, feel the triangle. And a friend drew it. I sent him a picture like this and he drew a triangle over the picture. And it's absolutely true.
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Rob
So you stand with your hands like this. Like, like this.
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Lois McCauley
Like, like, like this.
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Rob
Yeah, like. And, and I like that.
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Lois McCauley
And then feel and feel where the, the capstone of the pyramid is. Your third eye. It's the pineal gland and it's. It's not a pine cone, it's a pyramid. We're not ready for these things. The mystery schools let out knowledge when we're ready for it, you know?
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Rob
Yeah.
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Lois McCauley
Until now, to picture it as a pyramid. And you'll find, Jim, that it's faceted and you can, you can feel light and send light into it and broadcast light out through the facets of the pyramid. And then you drop that down through the throat into the heart chakra. It's a. Gigi Young has some wonderful exercises on that.
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Rob
That's amazing. Well, I was going to say I, I have another show at 9. 00pm Eastern, so in a half hour. So I was going to say I'D like to have a little bit of time in between. Is there anything you'd like to finish up with? Would you like to do some Eurythmy for audience before we finish up?
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Lois McCauley
Let's do some Eurythmy. I was going to do Hallelujah, which is a space clearing. Okay, here's Ask the chat. There are 2x1 of two exercises. One is the chakra opening exercise from Eurythmy and the other is as a clearing, like a psychic clearing. And you can clear your space and you can clear your city. So do you want. You guys, like, which one would you like? The chakra opening, the shot aligning and. And activating or the clearing, the energy field. Which would you like?
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Rob
I'd like to clear the energy field. I don't know. What, what do you guys think? Aaron says city clearing. Is that the energy field?
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Lois McCauley
That's the energy field, yeah.
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Rob
Yeah, because that, that, that's. That clears everybody around us too, you.
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Lois McCauley
Know, you take them with you. Yes. I, I did this during a performance, a eurythmic performance in a town north of here called Barry. And people came up afterwards and said, boy, did I feel that.
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Rob
And thank you so much for doing this, Lois. This is so nice of you. Like, this was an amazing podcast. I'd love to have you back on for a part two.
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Lois McCauley
You know, there are so many topics. It'll be. I was. I. Unfortunately, Rob, when I start talking about one thing, you know how it is. All these ideas are so linked that I get off on here and off on there. It's nice to sort of pick a topic. We were sort of covering everything today. This is based on the word Hallelujah on Hallelujah. I'm going to move my notes a little bit to the side so I don't hit him. So the sound. Ha, ha. In Eurythmy, is it, you know, ha. That is. Is releasing everything from your soul. Just, just anything that. That is sort of holding you back, you just let it go. It's a soul clearing and a release. I'm not remembering them. If you free, you just free your soul up. You liberate. That's the word I was looking for. Liberate your soul life. That's the ha. And. And you start by gathering yourself into your. Your chest, into your heart, into your soul, into your feelings, and then you toss it away. Ha. So you gather yourself up and feel anything that could be bothering you and you just toss it off. So that's the opening and then we do the water sound. L. And this is the sound of the activity of water. So you reach into. Now think of your etheric body. You're reaching into the weight of water and you transform it into vapor. And this starts very small. You do an L is the sound. You do it. L, very small. And don't bother toning it, Rob. Just focus on taking sort of like the fluidic etheric substance and bringing it up. So 1, 2. Each one gets bigger. 3, 4, 5, 6.
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Rob
Well, I can feel the weight. I can feel the weight leading up on my arms.
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Lois McCauley
Yes, we make the cross, the swords like a seraph, flaming swords of the seraphim. Cross swords and protect yourself against them. And then we do three giant Ls the first L. And you reach way below your feet and you pull it right up through your body and right through the top of your head and let it just effervesce down again. Now reach into your entire room. I'm going to take my room and take it up, transmute it and let it effervesce down in light. Now reach out into your whole city as far as you can. Reach down through the earth up, transmute it and let it come down. Then we have the Saturn sound. Ooh, very earnest. You stream out through your arms in a small channel with your soul. Then we have the sound of. I am asserting my individuality. One hand down, holding Aramon and the heavy control things away, the other hand up, making sure that you don't. You keep your ego in check and you don't get aggrandizement. And you feel these two forces allow you to open your heart. Heart in genuine being I am and who you really are. And then we end with awe, which is an opening and wonder to the spiritual world. And just in my very hands I'll go down so you can see it. Just in my very hands I'm going to do Aha. Out of my hands, very gentle. So I'm going to do it right from beginning to end. That's it. So we start tossing off our cares and woes, liberate ourselves. Then seven L's, then a firm. Now transmute yourself, transmute your space, transmute your city and earnest Saturn self assertion, wonder for the spiritual world. And then I'll show you this. Ha. In the hand, you just go very gentle way out in the periphery. And then we end, crossing the arms and get back into our heart. And that's it. It works so well. You can click clear yourself in your space beautifully. Thank you.
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Rob
Amazing.
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Lois McCauley
Thank you for allowing me to come on and do you rhythm me? I love you with me.
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Rob
Yeah. And do you want to tell people where they can find you? And thank you, Lois.
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Lois McCauley
They can find me. My little. I've just started doing podcasts. It's Matthew Moran's fault. You gotta do this. You're ranting. You've got to do podcasts. So it's at YouTube.com@lois spiritual science.
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Rob
Okay, I'll, I'll, I, I'll put that in the chat now. YouTube.com@lois Spiritual science. I'll put that, I put that in the YouTube chat, and then I'll put it in the rumble, too, and. Yeah, and I'll put it up on the screen and that way everybody has it. And I'll put in the description, too, because I don't think I had it in the description that, you know, at Lois Spiritual Science.
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Lois McCauley
There'S a podcast there that's an introduction to the Atlantis. Three Atlantis lectures. So there. The links to them are there. And, and rock.
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Rob
That's awesome, Brandon.
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Lois McCauley
I are going to do Lemuria next. We'll, we're preparing for that. And I'm having a lot of fun with the moon. So there are a lot of little podcasts about the moon now because I'm really delving into when the moon was formed.
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Rob
What do you think's going on on the moon? Like, what do you.
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Lois McCauley
I am of the firm belief that factors. People from the Earth have been in space for a very long time. Actually, my first entry into the disclosure movement was Penny Bradley. I don't know how I found Penny. She might have even just come up on a side.
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Rob
She's a good way to, She's a good way to be introduced into it because she's great. You know, I like Penny a lot. I consider Penny like a, like a, like a, you know, I don't know. Like, I, I consider her like a, like a mentor, you know? Like, she's like, she's a, she's like, she's so. I, she's like a mother to the secret space program. You know what I mean? Like, she's amazing. I like Penny, you know, I like her a lot. I, I, I, she was one of the, she was. The first video I posted on this new channel was a, was a video that I did with her, you know, like, she's amazing, you know, I don't know.
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Lois McCauley
She does, she does teachings from when she was in the Nacht Waffen, and they line up, they line up with Steiner. They really do.
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Rob
Wow.
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Lois McCauley
I found that really interesting. Yeah. When I, I started doing Eurythmia in Spring Valley, my training and I found out the best teacher was in Germany and I learned German and went and studied with her. Finished my training there. If you're going to study something for four or five years full time, it's expensive and you better get a good teacher in the arts.
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Rob
It's.
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Lois McCauley
Who's your teacher? So I learned German and I, so yeah, Penny is, she was amazing. So yes, I agree entirely. Also, it lines up with what I learned in my very beginnings in the One World Family Commune. They have a website called the Galactic messenger and there is Joseph Antery is, is behind that. If people have any questions about that, about the galactic lifestyle. Because it was really amazing. It was amazing to live with no money. We had no money. Does such good things when you get money out of the way.
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Rob
Yeah, just, just a couple comments. I don't know if you saw Emily Howard says, what a lovely guest. I subscribed. Diaries of a Wandering Artist says load. Lois is very sweet and Jenna said she just subscribed to your channel, so, so you got some new subscriptions to your channel.
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Lois McCauley
So thank you. It's a very small start, my little channel. So thank you for subscribing. It's in baby shoes.
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Rob
Yeah. Well, thanks again, Lois. And I'm, I'm happy, I'm happy to have you on anytime. And this was amazing.
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Lois McCauley
Thank you, Rob, for doing your work. It's. You're the new coast to coast and took it so much further. So much further. It's amazing what you're doing. Thank you.
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Rob
Thanks. That means a lot. Yeah, that really does mean a lot. That really does. Because that's what I'm trying to do, you know, I, I, Yeah. Thank you. I mean, you know, we got, we got hiccups, right? You know.
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Lois McCauley
You know, hey, and we've got forces trying to prevent it. So it's not just that you're doing it, you're doing it against all odds.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what it is. They, you know, they took down my channel. It was, it was, you know, but I mean, maybe this new channel is meant to be much bigger and better. I've been starting to think that lately, like, it might be rough, you know, because there'll be a loss, there's a loss of income at the beginning, right there, there is like, I'm not gonna lie, but, you know, like, maybe this new channel is meant to be better than the old channel ever was, you know? You know, because it's a new beginning, you know, so it's like, you know, I don't know. We'll see.
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Lois McCauley
Something's great. Something great's going to come of this. It. That's the, the new thing can only emerge because we've got this mess around us. Don't let it bring you down it's only castles burning Find someone turning and you will come around oh, Neil Young. Yeah.
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Rob
Yeah, it's funny. I love that. That's a great, It's a great, that's a great. That's a great saying. I love Neil Young, you know, it's. That's, that's awesome. Well, thank you, Lois. And guys, I'll be back at 9 00pm Eastern, so in about 20 minutes, I have Maria Martinez coming on from 360 Prosperity. She's going to be talking about wealth management and, like, how to be spiritual and, and, and have, you know, money too. And, and she might. You'll get into audience Q A, so you'll be able to ask. It'll be audience interactive and she might do a couple readings, too, for people because Maria is highly esoteric. She's, like, really spiritual as well. And she's very. She knows a lot about, like, extraterrestrials, you know, so, so it'll be a fun show as well. It'll be a really good show, you know. So, yeah, guys, definitely tune in for that. It'll be on YouTube and rumble and. Yeah, this was awesome. I really enjoyed this, Lois. Thank you.
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Lois McCauley
Thank you, Rob.
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Rob
All right, thanks, guys. I'll see you guys in 20 minutes. All right, have a good night, everyone. Take care.
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Lois McCauley
Thanks.