MET GALA FASHION POLICE

Summary

TyRANTS with Ty French: "MET GALA FASHION POLICE"

Date: May 8, 2025
Host: Ty French
Guest: Jose Cuervo

Episode Overview

This spirited episode of TyRANTS dives deep into the 2025 Met Gala, unpacking the night's fashion highs and lows with Ty French and returning guest, Jose Cuervo. Together, they deliver an unfiltered, witty, and often hilarious review of celebrities’ triumphs and mishaps on the red carpet. Besides candid opinions on Met Gala looks, the pair also dish about recent concerts, TV binges, and viral moments, channeling classic "fashion police" snark and cultural insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mood & Catch-Up (00:24–11:00)

• Ty confesses to being in a “fried” mood but perks up to recount his experience at Beyoncé's concert, including manifesting hearing "If I Were a Boy" live for the first time in 11 years (03:40).

  “The absolute joy, that's why my joy receptors are fried." — Ty, (04:18)

• Jose asks about the cultural impact, TV binges ("The Four Seasons" on Netflix, "Severance", "Black Mirror"), and touches on the inconsistency of streaming episode lengths (13:09).

2. Cinco de Mayo & Met Gala Timing (15:22–17:36)

• Lighthearted confusion and banter about Cinco de Mayo and why it often coincides with the Met Gala:

  "So how many times has the Met Gala fallen on Cinco de Mayo? Because that’s so random.” — Ty, (16:59)

• Quick history: This Met Gala theme, "Black Dandyism," explores clothing and Black identity (17:41).

3. Met Gala 2025: Theme & Background (17:41–24:00)

• Ty educates about the Met's “super fine tailoring, Black style,” and explains “Black Dandyism” and the Atlantic diaspora (18:30).

  "The new showcase explores the importance of clothing and style to the formation of black identities in the Atlantic diaspora..." — Ty, (17:45)

• Jose brings up Indian & global representation, noting how tailoring was interpreted across cultures.

4. Red Carpet Rants: Approaches & Standouts (24:21–43:10)

• Gowns vs. Theme: Ty and Jose call out celebs for showing up in basic gowns, missing the tailored theme (22:05).
  • “If you showed up in a gown—Nope, you’re not on my list.” — Jose, (22:05)
• Chappell Roan: Divided opinions—coat made the look, without it: “VMAs!” (24:55).
• Burberry debate: Jose praises their looks, Ty slams the “wig” and tailoring and jokes about reading wigs as a white person (26:40).
• Best Dressed:
  • Diana Ross’s Return: The standout legend for both hosts, stunning in a coat engraved with her family tree (28:10).

    "She looked so gorgeous—my breath got taken away when she showed up." — Ty, (28:26)

  • Zendaya: Applause for the "Mahogany"-inspired look; small controversy of near-identical looks worn by others, Ty desires more tailoring excellence (33:15).
  • Teyana Taylor: Hailed as best-dressed; “impeccable, every detail, the tones... so chic” (34:15).
  • Tiana Taylor wearing Ruth E. Carter: “Best dress of the night. Impeccable.” — Jose, (34:17)
• Live Stream Meltdown: Ty is furious with Vogue’s spotty coverage, missing big names:

  "I am giving you my life... What do you give to me? You give me a shit livestream that doesn’t even show any of the goddamn celebrities I want to see...” — Ty, (38:33)

5. Rapid-Fire Opinions: Celebrities & Outfits (43:18–63:19)

• Dochi in Louis Vuitton: Loved the concept, drama over her viral “umbrella” meltdown:

  "God forbid a girl need four more umbrellas." — Ty, (47:51)

• Doja Cat: General praise; look tied to her new album’s upcoming '80s inspiration (49:15).
• Sabrina Carpenter: Loved the suit, hated the frizzy hair—called out for feeling undressed on the carpet (50:09).
• Pharrell & Louis Vuitton: Chic, but Ty wants more drama or accessorizing (51:49).
• Lisa’s controversial suit detail: Rosa Parks’ face on the bodysuit’s crotch—questioned as a design choice (52:35).

  "Why is Rosa Parks face literally on Lisa's puss?" — Ty, (52:39)

• Kendall Jenner, Hailey Bieber: Criticized for bland, off-the-rack outfits; “basic” and “uninspired” (57:16).
• Kim Kardashian: Ty is bored with her silhouette:

  “Every single year... We get it. You got big tits, a small waist, and a big round thing in your face. Try something new!” — Ty, (58:29)

6. Runway Trends & Cultural Sensitivity (63:31–77:04)

• References Matter: Ty notes that some historical/cultural references were lost on viewers:

  “Half of my critiques—like, you hated Megan Thee Stallion’s hair—God, it’s after Josephine Baker, this iconic look for Black women in the 19…whatever. ... If I knew that, I’d like it.” — Ty, (66:55)

• Calls for more educational context on fashion choices during coverage.
• Discussing “do rags” vs. fashion headscarves: Importance of not confusing references or accusing cultural appropriation without grounding (75:25).

7. Men’s Fashion Roundup (77:05–84:11)

• Colman Domingo: Andre Leon Talley cape “iconic.”
• Alton Mason: Praised for confidence; pirate eye patch debated.
• Shaboozey: Applauded for merging Western and dandy, pearls "cool.”
• Maluma/Willy Chavarria: Lust over looks, less so the clothes.
• Keith Powers (in Boss) and other men: Generally on theme, with a few underwhelming exceptions.
• Patrick Schwarzenegger: Ty’s “worst dressed man”—yellow suit not a hit (81:29).
• Jenna Ortega: Loved the creative “ruler” dress (82:00).

8. Camp, Commentary, and Critique (84:12–end)

• Janelle Monáe: “This thing was made for her”; flawless story and execution (84:29).
• Pamela Anderson: Chic, loved the low-makeup look and hair (86:05).
• AI Outfits: Both mock and warn about the influx of AI-generated fake Met Gala looks:

  “Open the schools... Half the Internet falling for AI year by year!” — Ty, (87:07)

• Final Best/Worst Dressed Picks (93:02):
  • Best: Diana Ross and Lauryn Hill as the most on-theme, glamorous, and culturally powerful.
  • Worst: Gail King and Hailey Bieber for blandness, design missteps.
• Reflections on Fashion Commentary: Ty reminds listeners that critique is part of the fun; “it ain’t that serious,” but creates cultural conversation (90:47).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On manifesting Beyoncé’s song live:

  "The fact that, like, I manifested that moment for her to sing that for the first time in 11 years and I wasn’t there, it really was just messing with me." — Ty, (03:40)

• On Met Gala coverage frustration:

  “I am giving you my life...and what do you give to me? ... A shit livestream that doesn’t even show any of the goddamn celebrities I want to see.” — Ty, (38:33)

• On Kim Kardashian repeats:

  “We get it. You have a big booty, booty, booty, booty rocking everywhere...We found you. Now get a new stick.” — Ty, (58:38)

• Classic fashion police moment:

  “If two gays have lost the ability to judge some bitches in fashion, then we have lost everything. We really have.” — Ty, (103:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Beyoncé concert experience: 01:14–05:57
• Cinco de Mayo & Met Gala theme: 15:22–19:29
• First Met Gala reactions: 23:52–28:26
• Best-dressed praise (Diana Ross): 28:10–30:25
• Livestream frustration & coverage critique: 38:33–43:10
• Rapid-fire Met Gala looks: 43:18–63:19
• Men’s looks breakdown: 77:04–84:11
• Janelle Monáe & Tom Browne praise: 84:11–85:20
• Fake AI Met Gala looks: 87:07–89:01
• Final picks for best/worst dressed: 93:02–96:50
• Meta commentary on fashion critique: 96:27–99:20

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Tone & Style

The episode is irreverent, sassy, and conversational, filled with inside jokes, playful shade, and sharp, thoughtful cultural commentary. True to the “Fashion Police” format, critiques are bold but delivered with humor and self-awareness. The dialogue frequently acknowledges their own place as onlookers, not insiders, making their reviews more relatable and entertaining for listeners.

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Conclusion

Ty French and Jose Cuervo deliver an exhaustive, fun, and sharp debrief of the 2025 Met Gala, parsing through style, meaning, cultural references, and the state of fashion media. Whether you’re a pop culture fanatic or casual listener, their rants and critiques offer both laughs and genuine insight into why these fashion moments matter—and how the spectacle both shapes and reflects current cultural conversations.

Transcript

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Oh, my God, he's so out. Like, what is on the t? He's such a rat.

[B]

Hello, hello, hello.

[A]

I didn't know we were recording.

[B]

Welcome back to Tyrants. My name is Ty French and these my rants. Today we are joined by the love Miss Jose Cuervo again. Two times in a row. What? What? What do we do to be so blessed?

[A]

Keep having me back.

[B]

That's what we did to you. Yeah. This is how you do it, Tyrants. I am in the worst mood today.

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Yeah.

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I don't know why. I think I'm just so tired. And honestly, my serotonin receptors are fried.

[A]

Well, hi. Welcome back. Well, thanks for having me.

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I don't know why I'm in such a rough mood today.

[A]

Well, thanks for having me back.

[B]

Yeah. Thanks for joining me.

[A]

As we told you all last, you know, I'm gonna be more. More frequently on this.

[B]

Yeah. Ms. Josefina Cuervo is gonna join us on this sofa a little more often. I never know which camera to look into. It's gonna take me minutes to get used to, but.

[A]

Well, listen, your serotonin down is aside. How was Beyonce? Night two?

[B]

Yeah.

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So second. Second soiree.

[B]

Yeah. Night two for me. But it was night three of her tour.

[A]

Yeah.

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It was so amazing. Yeah. Like, our seats were better this time. And so obviously that was just a treat. But the first night, she, you know, it was the first time we had seen the set list.

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Yeah.

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And so we didn't know what was going to be played. And then the second night, she added four more songs.

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Yeah.

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And I know I've said a lot of times about how the thing that brought me to Beyonce was Coachella. And that is mostly true. That's what brought me to the fandom and to be a die hard fan.

[A]

Right. The beehive.

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The. The. The. My first entry to Beyonce as a young gay kid was if I were a boy.

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Right.

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That is like my elementary experience. Like, I feel like I just was like I was in middle school maybe.

[A]

Anyways, I hate you saying elementary, high school. If I were a boy.

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I think I was like, maybe seventh grade or something. I don't know. I need to look up the year. But I was young, crazy. It was like just such. That was like maybe my first, like, I don't know, ballad that I like, felt like emotional, you know, just like, ugh. It spoke to you. I was like in 8th grade, like, crying to if I were a boy.

[A]

Yeah. As if you weren't a boy.

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As if I wasn't a Boy. And I don't know. I just. That never, ever crossed my mind that I would ever hear live.

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Right.

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Because she. She hasn't sung it in 11 years.

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Yeah.

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It just. That literally wasn't even on a wish list of things.

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Right.

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That I said I wanted. However, someone posted on Threads and was like, you know, Beyonce typically opens with ballads. What's a ballad you would like to hear her sing? And this was, like, five days before I even went to the first concert. Right. And I posted, and I was like, I know it will never happen, but I would love for her to sing a viral.

[A]

Oh, my God. And so I literally manifested. Yeah.

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But so the first night, she didn't sing it, and I didn't think anything of it because I didn't know the set list.

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Yeah.

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The second night, a lot of my friends went, and I saw a lot of people post if I were a boy.

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Yeah.

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When I tell you, it sent shivers down my spine.

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Yeah.

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The fact that, like, I manifested that moment for her to sing that for the first time in 11 years and I wasn't there, it really was just messing with me.

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I was, like, struck a chord, I'm sure.

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And we still didn't know, like, if that was permanently on the set list for all the rest of the show, if she was gonna be adding songs, you know, depending on the stop. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. But what would be changed? What wouldn't be?

[B]

Right. Luckily, I was going again. But I was like, if she does another four surprise songs. I won it. If I were a boy. Yeah.

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Right.

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And so I prayed day and night on my knees to Heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior, that I would get if I were a boy. And the whole concert, I'm just, like, in anticipation for it.

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Okay.

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And the absolute joy. That's why my joy receptors are fried. I mean, you were everything flushed out

[A]

of me in that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally.

[B]

Cause she's saying. I think she's saying love on top first. She added, I think, three or four. It was like, love on top. If I were a boy.

[A]

Single ladies.

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Single ladies. And irreplaceable. Yeah. And so she did one or two or whatever. I'm forgetting the order. But then she was. She kind of paused, and she was like, I have another one. And it, like, paused. If I were a boy. I fell to the ground.

[A]

I can't imagine physically fell to the ground.

[B]

I had to sit with my head down for a second. I was like, pure euphoria. It was just. It was such a treat because obviously, we had seen the show a few days before.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so.

[A]

So you got to see her do Love on Top, which is my personal favorite song.

[B]

Well, so she did that on Renaissance as well. But she made the audience sing it. And literally, it. The light. She turned on all the lights in the stadium, and she sung it for literally, like. No, it was amazing.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Okay. She made you sing it for literally. It just kept going higher and higher and higher. Like, literally for five minutes. I didn't have a voice for three days.

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I love On Top is my all time favorite.

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So good. So good. But it was just nice. It was a nice little treat because I'd already seen the concert and so I got four more songs.

[A]

Yeah.

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On top of it. And it was like my one end, all, be all Beyonce song. And I can't believe I've never even talked about if I were a boy. Right. But it was just such a joy.

[A]

That's amazing.

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Yeah.

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Also, the Tyrants wanted to know. Because I'm here on behalf of the Tyrants, talking to you directly from the Tyrants. Okay. They wanted to know what your reaction was to hearing Tyrant for the first time.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah. I can't believe we didn't talk about that.

[A]

I know.

[B]

So the first time that I heard it, she doesn't sing the full song, right?

[A]

She doesn't do the full song.

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It's like. It was like a very shorter version. So even by the time that I realized Tyrant was playing, because the first part. It's that Dolly part, you know, and. Okay, I have a confession. Tyrant isn't like one of my favorites in the album. Yeah. It's not like it's a lot of people's favorites.

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No.

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It's like the one that I always skip.

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Two hands to Heaven and Sweet Honey Bucking are my favorite.

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Maybe just because it's like you. You know, it's like when someone's saying happy birthday to you, you're kind of shy. It's like when she's singing to me.

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Yeah. It's like a personal song. It's like, okay, yeah.

[B]

Like, it means too much for me. I can't just listen to it casually in the car.

[A]

No.

[B]

So anyways, so like, what? When the song starts, it's like now, like, pee. You don't start. There's Ju. Max, blah, blah. So by the time I realized that it was Tyrant.

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Right.

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She only sang one chorus.

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Right.

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And so I couldn't record it or anything.

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And then she also slows it down. She does that little wine with it.

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She's like, on the mechanical ball.

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Yeah.

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And then the second time, I think she did a different medley and she did it a little longer.

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Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, it was good. And she's like, on a mechanical bowl. It's like, so.

[A]

I mean, the visuals are amazing.

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People. People are alleging that the bowl that she's on was gifted by Tiffany Cohen. It's like 14 karat gold plated.

[A]

I doubt.

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I doubt that is true. I don't know who was starting that rumor out there if it was. That is truly, like, let them eat cake.

[A]

Well, so you saw the little cows they brought out now, Those were cute.

[B]

Yeah. So those were for night three as well.

[A]

Bulls. Cows. I don't know what they are. Calves.

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Heifers.

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Heifers.

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Heifers, Heifers. There's heifers. Calves, bulls.

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Cows.

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Calves, cows.

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Yeah, whatever. A version of. But she brought out new props, so I think.

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I think she's, like, going.

[A]

Getting into. Into it.

[B]

No, I think each show will come out.

[A]

I think you'll get, like, a new thing at the end of this, like, because you're going to the last show, right?

[B]

Yeah. Yep. I'm going again on Friday, so tomorrow. And I'm sure, you know, at each job, she'll have kind of different songs here or there or different clothes or whatever. But, yeah, all in all, amazing experience. We were a little bit closer this time.

[A]

I saw the seats. I texted. So I texted Tyson the minute I saw that she was gonna do if I Were a Boy, because I was watching the live feeds on TikTok, and I was like, oh, my God. I know. He's having a conniption right now, losing his brain.

[B]

No, I was not. Well, the whole time, I was just, like, smiling at the stage, like.

[A]

And also, we talked about this last week, but let's talk about the polo tie of it all. You got to wear the bolo tie.

[B]

Yes. So I wore the bolo tie that Beyonce herself physically wore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thanks to my friend Claire, who works at the jewelry brand Jackie Aish. And, yeah, I didn't feel that cute in my outfit. I'll. I'll keep it real. And I didn't. I don't really feel like I. Like. I mean, I posted a photo today if you guys want to go see it. I didn't. I wasn't, like, obsessed with the pics I got, but I. I was really channeling the spirit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like I needed to maybe shave down my chest hair a little bit more.

[A]

I mean, you almost Needed a breastplate at this point, if you're really going for the whole.

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My chest hair was looking really hairy.

[A]

No, I liked it. I liked. I liked the contrast. I liked the pictures. Thanks.

[B]

And, like, the shirt. I wanted a shirt that was, like, close enough to hers, but then it was just like some cheap shirt I got from Amazon, which, like, I would never wear in my life. So, you know, I think just like, with that, I wasn't really feeling the cutest, but I was also kind of hungover and there was like, you know, I was going into it with just a different energy than I did when I went to the Monday show.

[A]

Right.

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It was like a Monday, you know.

[A]

Right, right, right. Well, exciting.

[B]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was amazing. I'm excited to see it again on Friday. I'm going with jc, which will be so fun. And it'll be fun because, like, I doubt I'll drink. Really. Right.

[A]

Yeah. Famous last words.

[B]

No, it's like, I'm going with jc. She doesn't drink. Like. Yeah, it's a different experience.

[A]

I'm glad you're getting a third dose. You know, I'm excited.

[B]

But literally, like, me and my friend Jason who went with me, we were texting. I'm like, I need my brain back. Like, I can't focus while she's here on tour. Like, even she has another tour stop tonight at this point. Morning. I was like, I gotta get another ticket. Like, I'm sick. I'm sick in the head. I can't, like, the obsession. Like, I need her to leave so that I can, like, get my life back.

[A]

Right. I mean, she's almost gone one more night and then she's. Oh, no, she has Sunday, right?

[B]

No, just Friday. Friday's the last Friday.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

Anyways, how are you? How was your weekend? I didn't see you at all this weekend. Yeah, I mean, I didn't celebrate St. Go to Maya with you. I'm sorry.

[A]

Nor didn't I. I mean, I know

[B]

because he's not Mexican right now.

[A]

What did I do this weekend? It was a very chill, chill weekend. I'd watched a lot of tv.

[B]

Anything specific you want to talk about?

[A]

My lamps?

[B]

No. I met with tv. You love your TV corner.

[A]

Oh, okay. We're going to have TV corner.

[B]

No, just get whatever shows you're talking about. Just like.

[A]

Well, I binge the Four Seasons on Netflix and it is so good. The Tina fas.

[B]

Colman Domingo.

[A]

Colman Domingo is in it. Breakout star Marco Calvani, who I'm obsessed With Italian man. He is so funny on the show, but also just a specimen of a man to watch.

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Okay.

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Coleman Domingo's on it. Tina Fey will forte, I believe Steve Carell. And I forget the lady's name.

[B]

What's the concept?

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Concept is. I mean, not to ruin it too much, but like, it's like a group of three friends. Three couple friends, and they like, take this vacation and it's called the four season because it's. They go on a vacation each season.

[B]

So it's like White Lotus.

[A]

No, each season. Like each season of the. Of the year.

[B]

Right, but like, it's like a group friends going on vacation.

[A]

Yeah, but they're all friends. Like, okay, there are three friends that are going like, it's like almost like a cabin away. Like a cabin getaway or whatever.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So they start. They're going on a vacation or whatever, but it's their. The couple's 25th anniversary. Sea Curl and his girl, his wife. And he divorces her on that trip and chooses to break up with her. But she.

[B]

On their anniversary trip.

[A]

Yeah, but it's even crazier because she plans a surprise anniversary. I mean, it's like a wedding and like, it's a wild. It's fun, but it's light hearted. It's not. It's not shock. It's not White Lotus at all.

[B]

It's like more comedy.

[A]

It's more. It's light comedy. It's like adult comedy. Very chill. Very, like, realistic.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Easy to binge because Each episode is 35 minutes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is only eight episodes. What goes by so quick? So if you have a chill Saturday

[B]

or Sunday, have you caught up on severance?

[A]

I have not. And I know the tyrants want to talk about.

[B]

I know, I know, I know. I only have two more episodes left.

[A]

Oh, my God. So you, like, you're on it.

[B]

Well, here's. Here's what? I have a bunch of severance as well. One, I've been on it, but I don't know who they think they are in. You know what?

[A]

Actually in the universe.

[B]

I was just gonna bite my words because, like, I do that. So it's like, you know. Yeah, the hypocrisy is screaming no. But like, I was about to go to bed last night and I was like, oh, I just want to watch one more episode. But they're so long.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And then I looked at how long the next episode was and I was like, huh, 37 minutes. The one I just watched was an hour and a half.

[A]

Oh, yeah. So they Just like.

[B]

And then I was scrolling through and it's like, some are 45 minutes, some's an hour, some are 50. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, just because you're on a streamer doesn't mean that you cannot give me consistency.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I need to know, am I logging in for a 30 minute show? Am I logging in for a 2 hour show? Because if I order in my dinner, it's Tuesday night or whatever night, the episode drops and you only give me a 37 minute episode, I'm gonna be pissed.

[A]

Yeah. I feel that if it's like a

[B]

weekly show that you watch with your friends or whatever, like the bachelorette, it's like one. One week can't be 30 minutes. One week can't be an hour and a half. Like maybe on the season finale. But let's keep it a little cons. Let's have our episodes.

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[B]

That was just my bonus. I still didn't watch the 37 minute episode. I need to watch.

[A]

I need to watch Severance. Severance two.

[B]

I know because I want to talk about it so bad because I'm getting so.

[A]

It's wild. Right.

[B]

Lost.

[A]

It's so wild.

[B]

Right. It just kind of takes a while.

[A]

Turn.

[B]

Not really. Like, I guess I assumed it was maybe gonna go there, but like, how

[A]

did you like the ending of season one?

[B]

I feel like it didn't really leave on that big of a cliffhanger, but maybe because I'm binging it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't have to wait in between that. I didn't feel like it was that crazy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I was like foaming at the mouth. I was just like, let me start the next episode.

[A]

Right. But yeah, I mean, you didn't know there was a writer's strike when you've obviously. Like. I knew going into it there was

[B]

going to be a like that's why they cut it.

[A]

Yeah. For two years.

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SAG aftra. Yeah.

[A]

Well, they got their life all to say. Yeah, I watched that and I watch all of Black Mirror overall. You did.

[B]

That's so not a show I would think you would watch.

[A]

Oh, I love Black Mirror.

[B]

Interesting. I only watched the trucks and Katya watch of it, so I feel like I watched it.

[A]

Yeah, no, I like, I've always liked Black Mirror.

[B]

Do you know why it's called Black Mirror?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Talk about this.

[A]

Yes. It's your cell phone.

[B]

Yeah, it's just like that's a little too real for me.

[A]

Well, and that's the thing. They kind of they kind of got a little wild in some of the last season, former seasons, like. And now I think they're kind of going back true to form. So I feel like I like these episodes, but a few of them were, like, way too close for home, and I'm like, oh, this is crazy. Yeah, there's a few standout episodes on there, so.

[B]

Okay, stay tuned. Wait, so you didn't do anything for Cinco de Mayo? You didn't celebrate our brothers and sisters in Mexico?

[A]

No, I don't even think they celebrate.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Single de Mayo is a fake holiday.

[B]

No, it's not. It's the day of Declaration of Independence, bro. Wait, isn't it the Day of Independence for Mexicans?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

I don't believe.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

But needless to say, I was at home on the couch on Cinco de Mayo, because it was a Monday. So, no, I was not partaking in any. I think it's like the Mexican Revolutionary War.

[B]

What do you think the fucking Independence is?

[A]

No, that's different. Independence Day. September, something.

[B]

Single Mayo is an annual celebration held on May 5 to celebrate Mexico's victory over the second French empire. Doesn't that mean, like, their independence?

[A]

No, it's like. It's a whole different thing.

[B]

Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day are not the same.

[A]

Right? Yeah, it's not the same day.

[B]

Okay, then, like, why are we celebrating just, like, one battle?

[A]

Because marketing. Because. Branding. Because. Drinking.

[B]

Because. What year was that even. 1862.

[A]

I don't know the year.

[B]

It's been 200 years. You're still celebrating that battle, girly. Get over it. Yeah, I think we're good, right? Not. No one celebrates the day that World War II was finished.

[A]

Well, it's like. What's St. Patrick's Day? It's like, we just drank.

[B]

No, you're right. You know, it's just a day to get some.

[A]

Some booze.

[B]

Taco Bell.

[A]

Some Taco Bell.

[B]

I'm just kidding. Yeah.

[A]

So, no, I did. I didn't do much. I didn't do much this weekend.

[B]

Well, Monday was famously, the Met Gala.

[A]

Oh, yes. Met Gala. Monday. The first Monday, May.

[B]

So how many times has Met Gala fallen on Cinco de Mayo? Because that's, like, so random.

[A]

I mean, it just depends on the year. I think it happens every four years that you get the same calendar.

[B]

No, really?

[A]

Yeah, I think, like, the. The dates, cycle.

[B]

The event has been on May 5th. Wait, only once in the past.

[A]

Oh, which is this one then? I guess.

[B]

No, I think so maybe one other time before that. Oh, I don't know, just random. Not that literally anyone at the Met Gala is celebrating Cinco de Mayo. And I think they could, you know, reschedule some things.

[A]

First Monday of May was here. Thoughts? So the theme was Black Dandyism.

[B]

Yeah. So let me read this little.

[A]

Yeah, please read a blurb.

[B]

Shtick.

[A]

So let's educate the. It's like a mix of Ty the teacher today.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like every year I give the same spiel, but whatever.

[A]

No, give us a schooling.

[B]

So every year the star studded gala at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City gathers an impressive crowd of actors, musicians, models, designers and more to mark the museum's new spring Costume Institute exhibition. This year the event celebrated super fine Tailoring Black Style, which will be on view from May 10 to October 26. The new showcase explores the importance of clothing and style to the formation of black identities in the Atlantic diaspora and will be arranged by 12 characteristics of black Dandyism. What is an Atlantic diaspora?

[A]

Do we know that it's like a, like a region? No, like a. No, it's like a.

[B]

The Atlantic diaspora refers to the forced displacement of subsequent sequent dispersal of Africans across the Atlantic Ocean due to that trans Atlantic slave trade.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow. There's a lot of big words and I really need to go back to school.

[A]

So it basically talks about like how when they. So it's kind of like with slavery essentially.

[B]

Right. But it, it, it's saying. It's almost. I mean, I guess, correct me if I'm wrong, it feels like it's really specific about the black identities of basically the. The descendants of African American slaves.

[A]

Yeah, it's how they, it's how they created culture in a time of slavery.

[B]

Right. Like, and so it's like Americans style specific.

[A]

Right. Like how they define their personal style to, to differentiate themselves and still feel as though they were part of.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

Which, you know, of course.

[B]

But like I'm saying, so it might be different than like, like dandy isn't like South Africa or whatever.

[A]

Sure, yeah. Which actually good thing that you mentioned this because there was a whole conversation about. And of course this is not a political channel, but about like I'm a political. No, no, no. But like there was a really famous Indian performer which they call like King Khan, but he's like a very, very

[B]

famous, like Indian or Native American.

[A]

No, Indian. Like Bollywood.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then the guy that also went with Praval. Gurung. Gurung. Praval.

[B]

Praval.

[A]

Gurung, which. Who style Shakira. I don't know if you noticed, there was a guy that was dressed in, like, very beautiful Indian garb.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And hit the sword.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So though, they. Them too. There was another Indian famous pop star that was their celebrity.

[B]

Yeah, I saw him, and he was like, the first one.

[A]

Yeah. The all in black. Yeah.

[B]

He's the first star that's ever been there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So he was kind of like a rocker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they were dressed in there. Well, the guy that was in the More garbs, he was, like, representing Indian dandy. Dandy. Which was like how Indians at that time represented themselves as dandies.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it was kind of that whole conversation because he's like. Well, you know, because he was like. I mean, his tailoring was exceptional and.

[B]

Right. So that's the thing. Like, the theme is super fine tailoring, Black style. Or that's the exhibit. Right. But the. The dress code was black was. No, no, no. The theme is Taylor Fine. Super fine tailoring, Black style.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And it's about black D. Huh? The theme is tailoring tailored for you.

[A]

Oh, right, yes, yes.

[B]

So because, you know, dandyism is all about the tailoring and making things that are specific to you.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And so the. The theme. Because they kind of had to, like. I mean, white people can't be showing up in, you know, just cultural. Appropriately.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

So it's about being tailored for you. So I think for the people that came from India, like, that's like. That's the tailoring in their country.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That shows off, like, the trade and the skill of the. Like, the Arab people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

To where, I don't know, like, even. It's like, where did it even begin? There were so many outfits.

[A]

Well, having said that, can I just start this off, this conversation about the Met Gala, by immediately knocking off some of these ladies that decided that a gown was worth all that they needed to show up in immediately. So if you showed up in a gown. Nope. You're not on my list of people I accused, care about.

[B]

There are certain gowns that were beautiful gowns. Beautiful gowns. There were some gowns that were, like. I don't know, for instance, not to name anybody specific, but Heidi Klum.

[A]

Heidi Klum. Nicole Kidman.

[B]

Even Nicole Kidman's is prettier.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She looked like she went to literally, the mother of the bride, Charlotte Ruse. Yeah, literally.

[A]

Do you remember Charlotte Russe.

[B]

Yes, Mama.

[A]

I mean, I don't know if they existed when I was.

[B]

You were Still Charlotte Rose. What do you mean? Yeah. Like, one wet seal. All the things.

[A]

Did I just take the girlies back on down memory lane with wet stuff?

[B]

The tyrants might be too young. Who knows?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, so to reflect the theme of this year, the dress code for the 2025 MET Gala Red Carpet last night was dubbed tailored for you. Sartorial mood that is purposefully designed to provide guidance and invite creative interpretation.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So that's the thing that, like, is always interesting about the Met Gala. And I guess just with any event, like the Grammys or the Oscars. I think the Oscars are a little bit more, like, style specific.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But, like, when you go to the Grammys, someone might be in, literally, a bra and panty, and some people might be in a full Cinderella gown. Yeah. And then Met Gala kind of is that way as well. Like, it used to be kind of more just, like, chic.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And not even a dress code or, like, not a theme.

[A]

No.

[B]

Now, you know, people are coming with their nipples basically covered.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And other people are in full, like, White House beautiful gowns.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I like. It's fun. It just is interesting when the theme is so specific. Like, it's almost, like, so specific and not at the same time. And I think that people were so scared of, like, cultural appropriating and having it be about, like, black dandyism.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

That any white person, like, it's like, how do you feel? Like you can take a risk.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because you really shouldn't even be there to be, like, you're already, like, in someone else's face. You don't want to be, like, the loudest person in the room. So I felt like last night. And this is a good and a bad thing, I think this is a pro and a con. I think that last night was very chic or Monday was very chic. Like, very. A lot of suits. A lot of just pretty gowns.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A lot of black and white and, you know, neutral colors. Cream. Not like chaperone was the only one in a color.

[A]

Can we talk about her?

[B]

Yes, in a moment. I feel like I don't like the tone that you asked that in and. Yeah.

[A]

You picked up what I was putting down. I'm sorry. She don't get a pass just because she's chapel brown and I love her.

[B]

Wait, why didn't you like it?

[A]

I actually, like, didn't like it. I just didn't like it. That's a Grammy outfit. That is a. I'm going to the VMAs outfit. That is a. I'm receiving the Kids Choice Award.

[B]

No.

[A]

For someone like Chapel Roan, who will dress up and knows costuming and knows. Showed up to an event in a. That Fashion Forward Daily Front Row Awards.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She showed up in a full. That would have been more.

[B]

Okay, I disagree. No. But I think this one was more like. Like, it's like a suit. Did you see it with the coat?

[A]

I saw it with the coat. Studio 54.

[B]

Much better.

[A]

That was fine. I was.

[B]

Made it 10,000 times better. The fact that she didn't wear that on the carpet. Something had to have happened to it in the car. Like, what is happening? The look literally was made by the coat.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Without the coat, it's giving the American Music Awards VMAs. Like, with the coat, it's giving your steel show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. Yeah. Giving Pimp. Yeah.

[A]

It was giving full Studio 54. Pimp Energy. New York, 1975, 1980s. You know, like, she's a hustler on these streets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was picking that up.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I guess the. The. I can only assume that her designer was influenced by, like, Harlem Nights and, like, very, very, like, New York. Right. Like, Cardi B Almost, who, like, killed it on the Runway and, like, I. Or the carpet. And I, like, loved her outfit at the Mat. Yeah.

[B]

On Monday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. And I think Burberry. The house alone was, like, crazy.

[B]

Okay. See, I hated every Burberry look.

[A]

Oh, I loved it. I thought that was so on. On the, like, on par. Like, la roach trend Law. I mean, Laws was Mama. Laws was a little interesting.

[B]

Mama. Never in my life have I been mad at a woman like this. Like, what is up with that wig?

[A]

Okay. The wig. No, those are. I know, honey.

[B]

He says no real hair. Just because his real hair doesn't mean it's good lace, Mama.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay.

[B]

And I know it is inappropriate for a white person to be talking about a black person's wig. I'm fully aware.

[A]

No, but I think he says that's his real hair.

[B]

No.

[A]

I think he says it is.

[B]

No.

[A]

Allegedly. I don't know what we're alleging.

[B]

You can see the lace.

[A]

Okay. I don't.

[B]

And the glue was, like, shiny. Unless he, like, weirdly got, like, spike glue on his head. Like. No, that was Nigel hair.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

There's no way.

[A]

I think he's proud of, like. I think he's talked about, like, his hair is real.

[B]

What are you talking about? Like, his normal long hair. Yeah. That hair no. Yeah, Jose, I can see the lace.

[A]

Okay, well, I don't know.

[B]

The long hair is not his hair.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

You can see his wig. Okay. It's so inappropriate to talk about a black person's wig, but, like, you got to get the lace better.

[A]

Yeah, well, yeah, we'll. We'll move on from the wig.

[B]

I only ever say that because I always go back to that story at Coachella. When I put that wig, and that wig was secure. When I put that wig on and it was secure, and literally, you. You couldn't see that lace wear. And it was 200 degrees outside, and I did drunken Coachella, and so all I'm saying is, okay, you're going to the Met Gala. I better not see a shine from the lace.

[A]

Yeah. Wig aside, though, first. First, I don't like the look. Okay, well, yeah, what's the.

[B]

If you.

[A]

Okay, what's the first look that comes.

[B]

There's nothing tailored about it.

[A]

And I think we can all agree.

[B]

Wait, what's the question?

[A]

What's the. Who was, like, the real shining star that we can all just close our eyes and see? Think of The Met Gala.

[B]

1, 1, 2, 3. Diana Ross.

[A]

And now we said it. And now we said Diana effing Ross hasn't run. Hasn't been on the red carpet or on the Met Gala carpet since, like, 2002.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah. 22 years.

[B]

Insane. She looked so gorgeous when she showed up, like, literally, my breath, like, got taken away.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Give me your thoughts before we get

[B]

into her gorgeous outfit. And look.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

How is no one talking about the fact that Ashley Simpson is Diana Ross's daughter in law? Ashley Simpson. Yeah. Is Diana Ross. Diana Ross is Ashley Sims's mother in law.

[A]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[B]

No one speaks about that lore that.

[A]

I guess.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Yeah. I guess because it happened maybe before you were, like, really into, like, that scene of, like. Oh, yeah, no Perez Hilton and like, those days of, like, early teens.

[B]

Like, when I know when I knew who Ashley Simpson was, like, I wasn't reading gossip blog.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

I was just listening to her at the skating rink.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I recognize Ashley Simpson's husband, but I never knew that that was Diana Ross's son.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's his name?

[A]

Evan Ross.

[B]

Evan Ross. Like, I feel like even Tracee Ellis Ross, like, gets a lot of attention in the media. And, like, she does, like, acting and stuff. I never hear about him.

[A]

Yeah. I think he likes to stay low.

[B]

What does he do? Is he. He's a drummer.

[A]

He said, I don't know what he is.

[B]

He doesn't do anything.

[A]

I'm sure he does, but I don't. Like.

[B]

Oh, it's like in a band or something.

[A]

No, it's when she was in it, like, I think they met when they

[B]

were in a band that Laura is just so crazy to me. And, like, imagine your mom is Ashlee Simpson and your grandma is Diana Ross.

[A]

Right?

[B]

That's crazy to me.

[A]

I mean, just to say you're a Ross. That's crazy.

[B]

Well, and her. So under Diana Ross's big, long coat, she said she had all of her children and grandchildren's names engraved in it. So it was like a family tree, a family affair or whatever. That was the name of the coat.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So is Ashley's instance name engraved in there?

[A]

I hope so.

[B]

Cause that's crazy.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

And I loved. You know, I didn't love Zendaya's look, per se.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But the fact that it was based off of a movie that Diana Ross was in, and she walked right. Essentially right behind her. She just happened to get there at the same time. That was a moment.

[A]

Yeah. That's the gasp that I had when I saw them both lined up. I'm like, is this coincidence, or is it just, like, the fate of the universe? Because I love. I love Mahogany. And that's a. You should. Everyone should watch it.

[B]

I don't know what that is. The only thing I know about Diana Ross is I'm coming out. I'm not saying everything that I know about Diane Ross. RuPaul Charles has taught me. So shout out to Ru and shout

[A]

out to Mama Ru. Teaching the queer youth it's my house. And I know.

[B]

I know a lot of her songs. No, I know. Like, I don't know. Like, her, like, you know, I know she's a legend, but I don't know. Like, it's kind of like, Cher. Like, I know Cher, and I know Believe, and I know that she's a legend.

[A]

Right. But, like, only up to a certain point. Then you're like, what happened in, like, 70?

[B]

What made her the legend? I don't really know that lore. Like, Studio 54 of it all and

[A]

all that and the Supremes and all that.

[B]

Like, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Don't know anything because. Wait, wasn't she the Supremes? Is that.

[A]

And that's what she's inspired out of Dream Girls?

[B]

Yes. Yes. That's like. Yeah. Like, all that lore. Right? Don't know. And the fact that Beyonce was a Dream Girl. Still have never seen that movie. I need to see it.

[A]

Oh, my God. The best four hours of your life. I know.

[B]

I don't know why I haven't seen it. Listen, who else without the two is like Jennifer Hudson.

[A]

Jennifer Hudson. And now Princess Tiana. Anika Rose, the voice of Princess Tiana.

[B]

Oh, I've never seen that either.

[A]

Oh, I love Princess and the frog.

[B]

It came out like after I was a kid. So, like, who am I watching it with? I guess said them kids. My nephews and nieces only ever watched Frozen. That's literally it. Like when I used to babysit them, it would end and literally it would cry and I would have to restart.

[A]

Restart Frozen. So I mean, I think my all kids went through that phase. I'm sure my niece or yeah, maybe that or Moana. Yeah, like I can watch Moana forever anyway. But yes. So Ms. Diana Ross, that, that was the gasp that I guessed was when Ms. Zendaya walked right behind her. So. But mahogany inspired outfit from the movie and then it was tailored to her body like a perfection.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. So, so take away the reference and the fact that she was next to Diana Ross. Do you like the look?

[A]

I love the look. I think it's, I think it, it's better not. It's a better, it's not my favorite, but I love the look. But I will say again, it was tailored. It was, it was on theme for what it was. I think Zendaya, if she would have showed up, I, I, But I do think someone did her dirty and her team, because she wore two other people wore exact same outfits, which was literally

[B]

I was looking for the girl's name because I don't want to get it wrong.

[A]

Right. And were they wearing. Who were they wearing? Chloe or.

[B]

They're wearing Louis Vuitton.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Zendaya was wearing Louis Vuitton and Anna Sawai showed up in the exact same look.

[A]

Right.

[B]

By Dior.

[A]

Dior. Okay.

[B]

But it was literally identical.

[A]

Identical.

[B]

Hers was like not as like fitted, but I think on purpose, obviously. Like, I don't think it was just like a poor tailoring.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I don't even think that Zendaya's was like that perfectly tailored.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like when she was standing with her leg tilted, like you could see some ruching on the side.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It obviously is a gorgeous suit and it's like gorgeously tailored. I just think Zendaya has come to known be known as to one of the fashion icons of our generation. And she's always coming like her Her Dune press tour looks were more insane than that for a fucking premiere in London on the street with Pepin.

[A]

Yeah. I thought she was gonna wear something like Teyana Taylor. I think she. I thought she was gonna show up in a full pimp outfit, like Tiana Taylor.

[B]

Tiana Taylor was the best dress of the night.

[A]

100. And was working the carpet.

[B]

Impeccable. Yeah. So Tiana Taylor was working the Vogue live stream. If you guys were watching, then you would have seen that. And she was like a full. Yeah, like, is pimp the right word or is that offensive?

[A]

No, I mean, it's just like. It's a reference. Yeah, she was like.

[B]

Like to what? To the pimps. Right. So is that offensive?

[A]

No, I mean, it's a reference to. It's like a zoot suit. It's like a zoot suit.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

That's, like, so, like, the way of the tailoring of a suit. It's like the pleats and the. And the big bagginess of it all. Like, it's just like a type of suit that was worn.

[B]

Teyana Taylor was wearing Ruth E. Carter.

[A]

Ruth E. Carter.

[B]

That is. Yeah. So she's a.

[A]

She's a creative design or creative for. She designed all the costumes for Black Panther.

[B]

Oh, okay. And her shoes were Marc Jacobs. Um, but she just looks like, every detail down to literally the pocket square, the brooches, the, like, everything. The tones. I don't typically love black and red together. No, I know this, like, it's not quite maroon and it's not quite red. It's this, like, beautiful, like, saturated berry with, like, not even a. Like, a clear black. It's like a very dark charcoal. So, like, that combo feels so chic. It doesn't feel like black and red.

[A]

Right. You know, I mean, that easily could have gone Captain Hook.

[B]

I. Oh, a thousand percent.

[A]

Yeah. Like, that easily gone.

[B]

And. Well, then when you compare it to. Who else did the carpet. Lala Anthony in archival off white by Virgil Abloh. While I love that she, you know, recognized Virgil Abloh because he is no longer with us.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And was one of most powerful black designers.

[A]

Right. Of our generation.

[B]

Like, the first person to ever design for Louis Vuitton, like, that is just major.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He didn't have any better looks to pull from.

[A]

Well, I think this is the. This is the thing that I like. I think I have a hard time with Emma Chamberlain because don't even get

[B]

me started on that bitch.

[A]

Well, but that's what. But I agree, because these people that Work the carpet.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So they're like. They're Vogue live streaming. Right. Like, you know, like, when Keke Palmer did it, her look was more subdued. She didn't want to overdo it. Like, I feel like when you're working the carpet, you don't want to overshadow.

[B]

Yeah, but they didn't even do subdued. Like.

[A]

Like, Tiana Taylor was like, I'm not gonna care.

[B]

And Mama Anthony's, like, her whole thing was, like. It was like a big sculptural thing over her shoulder. So it didn't even do any justice for helping.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Interviewing someone. Right. Emma Chamberlain.

[A]

I think both looks flop.

[B]

The second look was so much worse.

[A]

That was.

[B]

The first look, at least, was, like, long.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It gave, like. Yeah.

[B]

Did it need the little skinny glasses? I don't think so. I. It's pretty. It's pretty. I just think, once again, like, she's known for her fashion, and this just feels kind of like, meh again.

[A]

That is a VMA carpet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's like, I'm going to the MTV Kids Choice Awards.

[B]

No, I agree. I. I don't know who. So what was. What's the girl's name? I don't know.

[A]

The one that was standing next to Tiana Taylor. I was from snl. Yes.

[B]

It's like Evo. Yeah, something like that.

[A]

Ao.

[B]

Yeah, Ao. Ao.

[A]

Maybe E. Y, O. I always forget her name, so I don't wanna.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And apologies to you, ma'.

[B]

Am. First off, they need to have her back every single year.

[A]

She's so good.

[B]

She's such a good interviewer. I've never seen her in that space. Right. I've only ever seen her on snl, and obviously I love her on snl, but she was so captivating. You could tell that because obviously she works with snl. She's met a lot of these people that are coming through to be interviewed.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so when. Same with Lala. Like, Lala is a really good interviewer because you can tell that, like, they go to lunch, they text, they know each other. Lala is very well connected via the Kardashians and everything. Right. Teyana Taylor, I think even though she is, like, connected, maybe not as closely with these people, she's not necessarily, like, a comedian.

[A]

No.

[B]

Or a personality. So she. I didn't feel like her interviewing skills were as strong.

[A]

Polished. Right.

[B]

But I just liked looking at her.

[A]

Yeah, Well, I think that's what it is. I think she brought that visual aspect and that also just, like, that cool factor to it.

[B]

Yeah, she kind of just was, like, there to, like, build off of whatever IO was saying, like, with the guests. But my. Okay, my fucking beef with this shit. I'm so sick and tired of it. I'm so sick and tired of the Met Gala.

[A]

Fight it.

[B]

I am giving you my life. I give you my whole day, all of my time, my hours. I give you everything. And what do you give to me? You give me a shit live stream that doesn't even show any of the goddamn celebrities I want to see. We missed Rihanna. We missed Nicki Minaj. We missed Kylie Jenner. We missed Kim. What the fuck? What the actual. I don't care to see this dumb interview with Lala and whatsoever when I'm seeing Gigi walking in the back. Show me the carpet. I. If you're gonna show me an interview also at the same time as this carpet, I need a live stream on the carpet that shows every single person that is walking on the carpet. And that live stream cannot turn off until literally Rihanna has walked. Okay, I don't need. I understand. It's like a lot of production, then they gotta, like, move people inside. That's fine. The interviews can stop.

[A]

Just leave the camera on.

[B]

Why is E News live stream going longer than the Vogue?

[A]

Official?

[B]

Right. I was watching the Vogue one because it's much more beautiful. It's much more prettier produced. You would think that because it's Vogue putting on the event, Right. That they'd want. Vogue is going to get the best interview. No. E News is getting Kim Kardashian walking up the stairs asking about her sisters. Like, all of these. By the time they get to the top stairs where Lala is, no celebrity even wants to do it anymore.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And Lala was like, I'm going inside and drinking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The live stream ended literally 30 minutes before the E News one. And then literally there was nowhere to watch. Like, I want to see. I don't want to just see, like, who you want me to see.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or who, like, happens to be there when you're not interviewing someone. I want to see every single look. I need there to be a camera.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, if you're gonna do a live stream or whatever, at least. At the very least it needs to be two framed. Sure. And whatever interviews you want to do. And the carpet just needs to be shown at all times.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I want to see even the people

[A]

that I don't know. Right.

[B]

The dumb uglies, the. The losers, the billionaires who just bought a ticket. Like, I want to see every Single person that walks on their carpet. Like, that's how nosy I am. Because I'm sitting there for three hours just glued to my screen and instead I get absolute shit. And you guys, I'm trying to support. I'm trying to support the Vogue YouTube channel and watch it like, where you guys at least get a little bit of. You're making me go watch a news. I'm seeing dumb ass commercials every 2 godd second.

[A]

I know.

[B]

What the hell. I feel like in years past, it was like an all night affair. You'd sit down with your friends, you're grabbing a bag of chips, you're ordering pizza, you're having wine, you're watching every single look. And I felt like. You saw every look? Yeah. You saw every major star.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This year, literally, I was like, oh, the live stream's over. I didn't even see anyone. And then I would go on Instagram and it's like, oh, yeah, Kim's here. Oh, this person's here. Nicki Minaj. Look. I'm like, I was watching the live stream the whole time and I missed all of that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So if you only ever watch the live stream, you think that's a big party for losers that no one showed up to. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, I guess Rihanna went, oh, oh, she was running late. She didn't do interviews. Oh, no, she's.

[A]

Kylie showed up.

[B]

She's on et's Tick Tock. Yeah, she had time to answer questions about her baby bump, but we didn't get to see that shit. Like, why is it so hard? Don't make it so hard. Even if it's like, make it a pay per view situation like they do for these fights. Like, I want to pay for a full production of this show and make that go to the donations of the Met. Because if you guys don't know, you know, the Met Gala is obviously a fundraiser for the Costume Institute. So it's not just like celebrities going and partying. It's like, it's for charity. So, bitch, I'm trying to support the charity. Yeah, right.

[A]

Let's get your views up so you can get some money monetized off of that YouTube stream. I get it.

[B]

I don't know why that pissed me off.

[A]

No, that pisses me off too. I mean, we both texted each other. We're like, this live stream is now over. Like, what do you mean? It's five o'.

[B]

Clock. Why are you making it so hard for me to a support you?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Support the. Support the Exhibition and to, like, if you're gonna make this thing a spectacle, if you're gonna, like, shove it down people's faces, the Met gal and the glitz and the glam and, like, sure, it's for charity. So, like, it's. It's not just, like, some big party that, you know, feels crazy happening when all this other stuff's happening in the world. I get it. But then at least let us watch it. Yeah, show us. Show us. Make us envious. Give us something to talk about. Show me the looks. I want to see the glamour. I want to see it all. I have to look at these dumb idiots that I don't know walk out, and then I have to go scroll on my phone after three hours of watching this damn livestream and see Kim Kardashian's look in an ugly photo. Like, no, I wanted. I wanted that moment. That moment was ripped for me. Have that moment of like, yeah, like, oh, like when Rihanna showed up with the. The yellow. Oh, like, I remember watching that with my friends and be like, like, this is a moment.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That moment was rock for me.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I didn't get to see Kim Kardashian just walk up in the carpet. I didn't get to see Rihanna walk up super late and announce her pregnancy with the baby bump. I had to see it on Instagram. Crappy TikTok. Yeah, that's rude.

[A]

So I'm going to throw some names at you, and I agree. I agree with you. I'm going to throw some names at you, and I want your thoughts. Okay. Okay. Because I feel like this is the easiest way we can get.

[B]

Okay. I mean, I might need to, like, refresh the book.

[A]

You know, I think you'll. I think you'll remember. I think you have. Okay, so dochi. Thoughts on Dochi. Louis Vuitton doji.

[B]

Okay. Okay. I saw my brain. I thought you said. I thought you were saying doja cat, and I was like, what? My brain is also doja cat dog.

[A]

I'm not doing this for the girlies. Let's do this for the girlies.

[B]

Dochi. I liked her.

[A]

Look, I liked her.

[B]

I didn't think it was anything crazy. You know, it's a monochromatic. Monochromatic. Monogrammed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Louis Vuitton suit with shorts. I might be mistaken. I might need to, you know, research it. But let me see if I can tell. In this photo is the blazer leather.

[A]

It's. I mean, it's gorgeous. Whatever it is. I think it's gorgeous.

[B]

If it's like, when I saw it on the live stream, it looked like leather.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so if that get up is leather, I love it even more.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because it's like a nod to Louis Vuitton, but also, like, that would mean the tailoring is insane, which makes it go way more with the theme. If it's not leather and it's just, you know, wool or whatever a normal suit is made out of, I don't like it as much because it's like, just a Louis Vuitton suit.

[A]

Right.

[B]

What? Did you see the clips of her yelling at her team getting out of the.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, is she pissed?

[A]

Because she was the one that was in the box.

[B]

Right. Okay. So there's, like, a video of her going viral of her in the Mark Hotel before they put her in that box. And she obviously thought they had told her that the hallway was cleared and that no one was in there and that the box would be there when it opened. The elevator open, People are there with flashes and phones, and it opens, and she's literally just stand there, like. And she's like, no. And she, like, runs to try and hide, and everyone's like, no. Like, I don't know if she just didn't want her look to get ruined or if, like, that was, like, a contract with Louis Vuitton. Like, they were like, do not let people take photos before you hit the Met Gala carpet. Because Pharrell was a chair. I don't know. But. But she looked terrified that people saw her. Then she finally gets in the thing, and she is screaming, mortified. No. She's like, give me a fucking umbrella. I need four more fucking umbrellas. Like, now what? Like, she is just having a panic attack and people are just ripping her new one. They're like, who talks to people like that? I personally don't see it like that. I think I was gonna say it

[A]

screams Ty Tyson French.

[B]

I personally don't think that she did anything wrong. No. But I think. I think a lot of that discourse is obviously, like, if a white man did that, like, they wouldn't be as pressed. Like, people love to call black women aggressive and loud. And so, like, I'm giving her grace there. And also, it's her first Met Gala. I can't imagine the stress of that whole day. She probably hasn't slept in 1000. And then for it all to get ruined because some dumb fuck outside of the elevator didn't do their job right. And now some dumb. It's not even like. It's like, a reputable Agency. It's probably some dumb, like, Perez Hilton who, like, literally snuck in and is taking on some dumb iPhone is going to be the ugliest photo. You ruin my whole look that I just prepped four for months. Like, yeah, I would be pissed. Like, I would be screaming. And I think, you know, in high pressure situations, people can scream at the people that they love and it means nothing. You know, it's like when maybe, I don't know, I'm just like that.

[A]

But yeah, I get it.

[B]

Like, if I'm stressed, I'd be like, oh, my God, give me a umbrella.

[A]

I know. And then you'll cool down and you'll be over it. You'll. You'll be over it. I mean, I've dealt with it.

[B]

I know, I know, but I'm saying, like, I think if this were a pattern in doi, like, then whatever, but give the girl a break. This is her first met gal. Anything has ever come out of her being rude.

[A]

Yeah, she's on it. She's on a, you know, she's on a high. I mean, she's on. She's the girl right now. She wants to, she wants to make sure it's coming out perfect just how she wants it to be.

[B]

People are just saying like, oh, it's never that serious to treat people like that. I'm like, actually sometimes it is. I'm serious. Like, sometimes it actually is that serious to the person in that scenario. And it's like, it's a form of like panic attack almost where you're like in such high pressure states that, sure, if you're looking at it from the outside, it seems not that serious, but when you're in that, it feels like life or death. Yeah. And so I don't know, I feel for her that now probably her first megal is like tainted by that. I will say she did post an apology. No, she posted. Yeah. Have you seen that trend where it's like, God, she was like, God forbid a girl need four more umbrellas.

[A]

Oh, no, I haven't.

[B]

But did she post that? No, it's like the trend is like, God forbid, like, if it's like a, like a white man, like dancing on Tick Tock, the comment will be like, God forbid a white man catch a vibe. Or like, it's like, basically like, why are people judging? Like, right. God forbid a Karen get mad at a cashier. Right?

[A]

Like, okay, I get it, I get

[B]

it, I get it. So she kind of. She's aware that the video is viral, but she ain't Apologizing.

[A]

Good.

[B]

She's also like a thank you. Like, I love my team so much for months. And that's.

[A]

That's fair. I think, again, it's a pressure cooker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That day is like, the day for a lot of these girls.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so you. You brought up Doja. Cat, quick thoughts.

[B]

Love.

[A]

Two seconds.

[B]

Gorgeous.

[A]

Gorgeous. Cute. I liked it.

[B]

80s. So Grace Jones.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the hair was wild.

[A]

I love different. Yeah.

[B]

Marc Jacobs. That's who she went with. Which we will not talk about his look. No, we don't want to talk about that hair, Mama.

[A]

We don't want to talk about that.

[B]

We don't want to talk about that hair.

[A]

Mama talked about hair, but we don't

[B]

want to talk about that, girl. The curls. If I read LA Roaches for hair Fulfilled, I gotta read his, like, the curls.

[A]

The girls, the curls.

[B]

The curls, the girls, the curls, the color, the nails, the. It all. It all was like a wild, wild. The talks, the lips, the. I was just like, wow, okay, girl.

[A]

I mean, feel your oats, honey. So, okay, cool. We liked it.

[B]

But anyway, so he kind of like, spilled on the carpet about her new album. And he was like, we, you know, really wanted to take inspiration from her album. And it's like, very, like, 80s or whatever. And that was kind of the first time we've heard anything about her new album. So I. If they were kind of inspired by the sound of her new album to make this look. I'm very excited to hear it.

[A]

So she did say there's, like, notes of the song somewhere in.

[B]

In their new campaign or something.

[A]

So. Yeah, I guess we have to watch.

[B]

Yeah, I need to listen to it.

[A]

Exciting. So I'm gonna go with the. With the girly girlies for the tyrant's love, Miss Sabrina Carpenter. Thoughts?

[B]

Okay, so I loved Sabrina Carpenter's look. It was Louis Vuitton. It was, you know, no shorts.

[A]

A little.

[B]

I thought there could have been another element that was, you know, like, taking to the next level in terms of glamour.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, I think once again, this could be a VMAs look.

[A]

Easy. Yeah. Or right off her. Sweet and sour.

[B]

Totally sweet and sour.

[A]

Whatever her call is sweet and short.

[B]

Short 100. I hated her hair. Hated her hair. I thought it looked undone and fried. Yeah, like, fried. Why? Why is it frizzy?

[A]

Her hair. I think her hair is literally damaged from the tour. She's probably had to know I'm serious.

[B]

Well, it's just like she pro.

[A]

Probably sprays it every night that it's like she needs a good detox.

[B]

Maybe her hair just like, gets like. It was raining in New York. It was maybe like she has just frizzy hair, like when it gets in the moisture. So I'm gonna pass there. But I think we see her with his hair so much that, like I said, with the glamour. Like, since she's wearing no pants, the whole structure of the outfit is the shoulders. So to cover it with the hair, it's like she needed like a slicked back bun or a pony or like a sculpture moment. Like something with her hair just, like, back. I know she's kind of known for her hair, so. Yeah, it's like Dolly Parton ain't coming with a slick back button, you know, but it's like. Well, then there needed to be another element, because the all. The element of the actual outfit and the tailoring is up top and you're covering it with your hair.

[A]

I get the vision. And I got what she said to. I got. I understood what she said. She's short. She. Obviously wearing pants is a hard thing on the carpet to look. You know, I get all of that. Yeah, it was giving me Playboy bunny. I mean, honestly.

[B]

Yeah, it really was.

[A]

I mean, but I mean, I'm. I'm. Listen, this is. We're talking Louis Vuitton. I'm sure that outfit is very, very expensive. Very, very beautiful up close. I'm sure that. That though that pinstripe is gorgeous.

[B]

Well, do you want to talk about who else was dressed for Louis Vuitton?

[A]

Well, let's talk about Pharrell.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I liked his jacket. I liked his. I liked his look. See, that's another one. Like, at first picture, you just look at the picture and you're like, oh, cute. He's in a white shirt and a white blazer. But then you realize that's all beading and those are all pearls.

[B]

Yeah, it was. It was pretty. I think his pants aren't really tailored that well.

[A]

That's my choice, I think.

[B]

And I just think for being literally the creative director for men's Louis Vuitton and for being the host.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if this was, like, enough for me or it needed, like, an accessory or something. Like, a lot of people had canes or hats or, like, I don't know, I just felt a little underwhelmed by it. In terms, it's a gorgeous outfit. Like, I would wear this to my wedding. You know, it's beautiful. But, like, just for the occasion, I would have liked something a little bit more extra Just in entertainment purposes. Like, it's gorgeous. I have nothing negative to say about it. It's just kind of like, okay, cute, right?

[A]

Who are you going to reference in Louis Vuitton?

[B]

Lisa.

[A]

Oh, Lisa.

[B]

Have you seen all the. Have you seen all the Discourse?

[A]

No, but I'm sure it's. I agree.

[B]

So she has, like, a bodysuit under the blazer, Right. And the bodysuit has, like, like, black figures, like, engraved.

[A]

Oh, I didn't see all that.

[B]

And Rosa Parks is on her pussy.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

Literally, someone zoomed in, and they're like, why is Rosa Parks face literally on Lisa's puss? It's literally, like, right in the middle of it stuff. And like, oh, you can't see the whole bodysuit because she's wearing the blazer. Yeah. So you only see the panties, and you only see the part with Rosa Parks face.

[A]

I. I'm a little shocked that Pharrell would do that to her.

[B]

Yeah. I don't understand. There. Maybe there's, like, some story that I'm not getting, but, like, everyone's like, what? And, you know, poor Lisa, she don't know who Rosa Parks is.

[A]

When they asked her about, like, why is she wearing Chanel? And that whole, like, she almost gave, like, a pageant answer.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, what would you. You know? No.

[B]

And even. What's the other one? Yeah, she was like, the only reason I came is because I asked Charlie XCX if she was coming. She said, yeah, I'm gonna be at the Instagram table too. She was like, sweet. I'm gonna go like, girl.

[A]

I mean, hey, at least she's honest.

[B]

I hated all their looks. I liked. No, I actually liked Jenny's the best.

[A]

I mean, it was Chanel.

[B]

It's just like a gorgeous Chanel piece.

[A]

I mean, who doesn't like Chanel? She's gorgeous.

[B]

What did you think of Charlie xx's? Would you like to skip me? No, we gotta support our. Our sister. I don't know how to say the designer. And Demeli. Or Mice. Oh, my God. And Demul. Mr. Oh, my God.

[A]

I don't know. How would you say she wore.

[B]

How would you say that?

[A]

Oh, no, I. I don't know who she wore.

[B]

And Demi Meister. Meester.

[A]

Yeah, Meester.

[B]

Like, girl. I'm sorry, if that is your name. No, every name is valid. I mean, people should be taught to. To say. I'm just saying, if I were running a business and it was having to be like, oh, like, who are you wearing? And I would shorten it.

[A]

Just Duel.

[B]

Andy.

[A]

Andy.

[B]

I would be Andy.

[A]

Andy and Dimu.

[B]

Like anything other than and D. Even I can't. And trust me, I love that designer stunning. I think they're from. I'm gonna get it wrong. Somewhere in Eastern Europe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I swear it was like German or something. Germany might not be. Now that's not sounding right. But I didn't like it the first time I saw it. You know, it's very like.

[A]

Yeah, a lot of feathers.

[B]

Let me see a lot of feathers. If you guys are watching on YouTube, I don't want to get sued so we can't show the photos.

[A]

But yeah, it's still hate. I. I hates a strong word. I just. It's not. It wasn't for me.

[B]

It's not my favorite. But I do like it.

[A]

I like it more than I. I like it more than I like Lord's Lord.

[B]

Take your bag and go home. Go back to New Zealand. I'm done.

[A]

I. I didn't like that.

[B]

What is happening?

[A]

And I didn't like that Tom Brown.

[B]

Is she from New Zealand or did I just think that I.

[A]

I'm mad that Tom Brown did that to her.

[B]

Tom Brown. That's so not even like you. And I hated the material of that blazer. It was like a satiny silk shine. So it like didn't. Polyester literally looks like polyester. The blazer was a terrible fit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I actually would have been happier if she just didn't bring the blazer at all and just did little pasties on a bra. I don't like that look. But I'm saying the blazer almost actually made it worse.

[A]

I did see some quote she said about how it made her feel masculine and how she's embracing.

[B]

Yeah, she said like. Yeah, she said like, I'm a boy and a girl.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, it's happy for you. I love non binary people.

[A]

Yeah, but we love them.

[B]

I would love for them to dress good.

[A]

They. Thems can still be tailored.

[B]

Was a weird. It was weird. What do you think about Ms. Kendall Jenner and Haley Bieber? Would you like to skip me?

[A]

I hated it. I just.

[B]

I don't think Haley Bieber looked like she walked into AAR and picked up something off of the rack.

[A]

If, if, if, if what's her name walked into Charlotte Ruse, then Hailey Bieber was let loose at a Forever 21.

[B]

No, it literally looks like Zara.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, and it was ysl. I'm like, wait, but it's YSL right off the rack. Like, mama.

[A]

It's like it's not custom. Why I don't look. It doesn't look like custom ysl.

[B]

It was the. Like.

[A]

I've seen many girls. Right. I was gonna say I've seen many girlies in LA wearing.

[B]

Oh, my God. Literally every Instagram influencer has worn that to every brand event ever. That is the most basic outfit I've ever seen. It made no sense. And if you're at least going to do that, like, give me something with the hair. You just wear your hair down like you normally wear it too. It was like, give me anything. Kendall's at least was like. It was a basic suit with, like a skirt, but it was, like, pretty. It had, like, some interesting ruching up top. It was like a pretty. It looked like she was going to, like, a Forbes summit.

[A]

I think Kendall and Kylie played it safe. I think they played it safe. Kylie's. I like.

[B]

I liked Kylie's smooth details.

[A]

Yeah. I like the more because she at least tried. Yeah.

[B]

She had that beautiful fabric, like, draped over at first with the brooch, and then she took it off, obviously, so you could see her tits.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I at least liked more because there was more tailoring with the corset and the boning and all of that. Kendall's was literally a blazer on skirt.

[A]

And what do we think about the matriarch of that family, Ms. Kim Kardashian? Not the matriarch, but the. The older sister. What do we think about her?

[B]

Look who.

[A]

Oh, okay. On that same breath, then.

[B]

I can't decide if I like it or I hate it.

[A]

Kim Kardashians personally liked it only because I. I see where she was going. Yeah, I saw. I saw the vision. I like the pockets in the. In the denim skirt in the back was really giving me, like, leather pants. She had, like.

[B]

Or leather.

[A]

Leather. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, the leather pants.

[B]

Yeah. She was wearing chrome hearts.

[A]

Chrome hearts.

[B]

She.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Collaborated with.

[A]

Worked with, too.

[B]

I know. She collaborated with Rihanna's stylist.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So she really is coming for that bag.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I just think that choices were made. I'm so sick of this silhouette.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every single year. We get it. You got big tits, a small waist, and a big round thing in your face. Trying to get plum. Then I get a hell sprung.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we get it. You have a big booty, booty, booty, booty, booty rocking everywhere Booty, booty, booty, booty rocking everywhere.

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[B]

We found you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now get a new stick.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Is there any glamour left? Here's the thing. No, Come out with a ball gown. And guess what?

[A]

She's trying to wears it.

[B]

You want to show me waist? You want to know what's going to make your waist look even more tiny if you come out with a ball gown, right? Tuck that thing in so tight. And then boom. Like, give me an actual ball gown. Like, give me. Right.

[A]

Cinderella.

[B]

She's the one that should have come in a suit, that should have come in a pant. Like, like, just. It's so predictable. Even if that outfit that she had on was leather pants. Right. It would have been better. Like, I'm so over it. And you can't walk in anything that you're wearing.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

It just feels so, like. Well, yeah, I got it for camp when, like, you couldn't walk because it's like that was. The whole thing is like, you were so tight and like, whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Year after year, it's like, you can't walk. And for what? A dress that isn't even that cute.

[A]

No.

[B]

And your nail fell off in the

[A]

middle of the carpet when you sent me that video. That was the nail in the coffin. Literally, the nail in the coffin.

[B]

Literally the nail in the coffin. She's like fixing her top at the middle of the thing and she's wearing press on nails and it flies off and the guy has to pick it up for her. Ma', am, you are at the Met Gala and you've been doing this a million times. You couldn't just get a real set of acrylics.

[A]

Yeah. And you also sat in that bus for a whole hour. You were nailed.

[B]

Missed the whole fucking straight.

[A]

Your whole nail tech could have put on a whole set of nails in that bus while you were sitting in the bus.

[B]

I just like, that's unacceptable.

[A]

No, I know it was.

[B]

It's. If you're wearing press ons, that better be super glued on your nail. Like.

[A]

I mean, Trixie wears press ons all the time.

[B]

Having press ons fall off on the Met Gala red carpet is so tacky.

[A]

Yeah. That guy that picked it up, he was quick. He was like, oh.

[B]

I would have been like, bend down. Get it.

[A]

Let's see you get it.

[B]

Be humble. Literally.

[A]

Yes. Speaking of leather, though, let's talk about our flower, my smiley Cyrus. What are your thoughts on her? Look, Alaia, you want to be skipped? We can use your skip pass. I didn't like it.

[B]

Let's pretend it's not the end of the world, right? I'm just like, miley, Miley, you're so. You're so chic. You're silently has been so important. I like, literally, Alaia doesn't make a bad thing, but you found it and that.

[A]

Well, it was tailored to perfection, but it was just weird. Weird.

[B]

It's even like I liked the top almost, but like, once again, like if that had like that same print but in like, like leather pants with a flare or like something that was more like tailored. Like, I don't really love the skirt or even understand the story that it was selling.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And like with the hair and the glam and everything, I was just like, what it was.

[A]

You know what it was.

[B]

And what's the reference?

[A]

It was giving CMAs. It wasn't even giving MTV music. It's giving CMA like something she would wear to like the CMA.

[B]

Literally. Like, like something you'd like wear to like, get inducted into the Hollywood Rock of Fame, right? Like, or what's it called? Yeah, Hollywood.

[A]

Hollywood Rock. No, the Rocket. The hall of Fame. Holly Hall.

[B]

Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like it. It was a cool look. It just like for this and for the theme, I just.

[A]

Again, another woman that would have killed it in a suit.

[B]

I know. Wait, so in a wig.

[A]

She knows a wig. Oh my God, she knows way around a wig.

[B]

What did you think about. I mean, there's so many. What did you think about Tyler's?

[A]

Do you mean. Yeah, I know who Tyler is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I liked it. She needed. She needed. She. I will agree with the tick tock. She needed to esteem that.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

I liked it. I thought it was. I knew I. Again, I get the reference. Let's shift gears real quick. Or your thoughts on. On her? Do you have any thoughts?

[B]

No, I don't like it.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about the gentleman because there were some really finely.

[B]

There's still some girls. I need to talk.

[A]

Okay, we can come. Oh, actually there's a girl that I also for our tick tock girlies. And our tyrant girlies, Miss Lana Del Rey.

[B]

Hey. Hey. Did it. Lana Del Rey was wearing Valentino showing up with Alessandro, the creative director himself. And I hated it. You hated it. What is happening?

[A]

But I honestly was. I gave her a pass because at least it was in a black dress.

[B]

Had that.

[A]

That dress. No, that dress color, if you look at it is actually really brown. Yeah, it's like a dusty brown.

[B]

Oh, it's probably black and brown.

[A]

It's kind of rich. It's giving like beautiful fabric.

[B]

It's giving Christmas Barbie. Yeah, it's giving.

[A]

It is giving. You don't know what the theme is. Like, you're just showing up here to just be cute.

[B]

It's, like, a little too, like, conservative for me. And I mean conservative and, like, it literally looks like given to a handmaid's tail ball.

[A]

Right. Given to what she's worn in previous years. Yeah, this was a flop.

[B]

And just her style, lately, it's been, like, so good. Okay, let me just go through, like, the women that I screenshot it. Oh, my gosh. There's just so many other.

[A]

Sure. Tracee Ellis Ross loved for Marc Jacobs.

[B]

I liked it. It's cute for her.

[A]

Yeah, I liked it.

[B]

I didn't, like, love it. What about Sydney Sweeney?

[A]

Oh, girl.

[B]

So many people are reading her for film, but I actually really liked it.

[A]

The dress is cute. The dress is.

[B]

Yeah, it's cute. It, like, has nothing to do with the theme. They asked her about the theme, and she was like, well, I'm gonna be in a movie with Colman Domingo. It's like, okay. And.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Well. Yeah. And that's your. That's where you're going with this. Great.

[B]

Love that.

[A]

Zoe Zelda, on the other. On the other hand, hers was gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. Mindy Kaling.

[B]

Hate.

[A]

Hate it.

[B]

And how the hell is she getting invited to this?

[A]

She gets invited every year. I don't know how.

[B]

There is a list of people that I'm like, actually. What is actually happening? Mindy Kaling. Joey King.

[A]

Oh, Joey King.

[B]

The worst outfit of the night. Really hated it.

[A]

It was giving Gucci 2008.

[B]

I hated it. And why are you here?

[A]

Yeah, why are you here?

[B]

Am I wrong? Like, is she in a movie or something? That I'm not going.

[A]

She must be.

[B]

Mindy Kaling. What the Are you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There were so many people that I'm like, you're so not. Like, there are so many more people that are like, so, like, like, where's Parker Posey?

[A]

Where's Parker Posey?

[B]

Like, where's. I mean, don't even. Where's Beyonce?

[A]

Madonna. Madonna. Slews Fest me in a soup. Seen it, done it. We get it. I'm just throwing names at you. Cynthia Rebo. Hated it. Didn't give me anything.

[B]

It wasn't the worst of the night.

[A]

It wasn't the worst. It just didn't give me what I thought she was gonna bring.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think she's tired at this point. She's like, get me out of these effing gowns.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm tired of having to wear These long ass nails.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Giant ass with jewelry.

[B]

I saw a clip from inside because Stevie Wonder performed.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And Usher performed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you can just see her silhouette of her, like in the front row cheering. And you can tell it's her because it's just a bald head and the fingers are 12 inches long. Just like, like, it's so funny.

[A]

I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our Ms. Kiki Palmer. Thoughts on Ms. You know what? I. I know it ain't.

[B]

I know it ain't the style. Yeah.

[A]

Miss Megan the Stallion. I personally love me.

[B]

Okay, so I didn't like Megan Thee Stallions until I saw the reference photo. Oh, that's Josephine Baker.

[A]

Yeah. Josephine Baker.

[B]

Are you kidding? I don't know. That is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But the inspo, you see it? No, I saw the inspo. But like, who's Josephine Baker?

[A]

No, no, she's a famous, like, singer. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Once I saw the inspo photo, I was like, okay, I get it. Because at first I was like, what the hell is this hair?

[A]

Right? The hair was.

[B]

Okay. That's kind of what I was trying to say at the start as well, is when the theme is anything.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Whether you have a theme or not, like, people are going to interpret it differently. And so, like, you naturally are going to like the ones that, like, you would have you associate that with the theme.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Versus, like, their interpretation of it. So you're just gonna naturally like that. Whether or not that's a better outfit or not.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when it's something as like, like historical as something like black dandyism.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Then there are gonna be so many references that people like me might not understand initially.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so half of my critiques, like, to someone who knows it might be like, well, damn, bitch. Like, you hated Megan Thee Stallion's hair. Like, God, it's after Josephine Baker. This iconic look for black women and the 19. Whatever. It's like, okay, well, now if I knew that, like, I like it. I get why she did it. It didn't feel so random.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I wish that once again, pay per viewing, there was like a, like, pop ups that tells you the reference that was like, yeah. Like, I want someone who knows everything about the theme and everything about that time period so that like when that person is coming down, like almost like what Fashion police did or the E. The people try to do, like when they're doing the live carpet, they're like, there's that one girl who's blonde.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know her name. She's like a Satisfaction. Yeah, yeah. She's like, oh. Like, yeah. I talked to Jonathan Anderson this morning. He designed this for, you know, Loewe.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He told me that their inspiration was blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, great, love it.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And she tells like what it was made out of, how many beads it took, how many hours. And people, I need that at the start of the carpet when someone is like, oh my gosh, like, this is amazing. Here's why you should love it. Like, and not even like a fashion critique, right? Like fashion police. Because I feel like we have a society has kind of grown past that. That's my job now.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I just want someone to explain to me the references, the cultural significance of it. Because I feel like as a whole, it would let people appreciate these looks, even if you don't necessarily like it. After you hear what is told, if you're told that, you know, it took 76 hours and 300 people and this amount of crystals and they did it because it was based off of this famous, this, you know, thing, then you're like, okay, yeah, like, you killed it with the themes. Now it says instead of everyone just hopping on tick tock and be like, this is ugly.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And then you have to explain like, oh, well, this is why you see the reference. Right?

[A]

And I think, you know, I, I agree.

[B]

I think just, just especially because it's something. You're not gonna do that if it's the Grammy.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

But like, this is, it's a museum. Like, this is about moment, this is about education and about highlighting the exhibition. And so if it's about highlighting the exhibition, like, teach me. Yeah, teach me about why this look that this celebrity wore that paid thousands and thousands, thousands of dollars to go to this exhibition to highlight this, to bring all eyes onto this. Explain to me why this hairstyle is important.

[A]

No, I agree, I agree, I agree. I think they did that a few years back. They had like Vogue, had little like pop ups and things of like, inspiration. They need a better editing on this.

[B]

They really do. It was just like, like, what is

[A]

happening with your video?

[B]

I know, because.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you ever seen the First Monday in May?

[A]

Yeah, of course. Yeah, First Monday.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So beautiful.

[B]

I'm like, that's what I need the live stream to be. Yeah. Like, or they just need to do that like every year or just give us a recap. Right? That's what I'm saying. Like the next week it like, it should be like a documentary. Like, explain to me the exhibit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Whatever. Like, well, that's the thing.

[A]

Like, head director Boyles. I forget his first name. Who puts the whole Met gala with Anna Anna together. Like, I remember last year there was a whole thing about it on vogue.com and you can see it, like, the exhibit and you can see, like, why they chose the pieces they chose. And then he talked about the gowns and all this and stuff. And I'm like, where was that this year?

[B]

I know. I feel like they didn't.

[A]

All I saw was an ebay ad.

[B]

Yeah, girly, that was the other thing with the damn live stream. I'm like, get your bag. But then at least give me a good live stream. I'm about to sit through these damn ebay ads.

[A]

Well, ebay ads on and off the carpet too. Commercials and people wearing ebay because ebay sponsored the ebay sponsored the carpet.

[B]

Don't even get me started talking about the stream again because I forgot a whole other segment that I needed to talk about because so the stream. And I remember saying this exact same thing last year. So, Bogue, you gotta listen up that they have the stream.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's lala.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then what's their buckets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the other room, right where the. Is Emma Chamberlain. Right.

[A]

Emma Chamberlain's was cut out completely. She was vogue.com.

[B]

like, she was interviewing all the celebs, like, right when they. Before they get on the carpet. And I'll see. I've been seeing clips of it like, that people have reshared on Tick Tock. But I'm like, where were you watching that originally?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm so confused. Like, where are all those interviews?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know where. I don't know what they were doing.

[B]

It felt like a mess. I'm like, that needed to be just, like, all in one. There needed to be one stream.

[A]

Unless, you know, they're doing. They're pulling a Beyonce and they are. They are going to give us, like, a documentary slash, like, highlight.

[B]

I really, really wanted Beyonce to be there. Yeah, I thought, like, maybe there would be a possibility, like, she would have to literally leave from her show.

[A]

Yeah, straight there, straight there.

[B]

Go ready and go. Straight there. Which, like, I understand why she doesn't because, like, she has another show Wednesday. It's like, this is just more important to her. But, like, the theme of the Met gala this year, like, is her whole life right now. It's her whole brand. Like, it is Cowboy Carter. Like, it's so much about, like, reclaiming black history and, like, Dandy is her Whole lifetime is about that. Like, I'm just like. And, like, she's such good friends with Pharrell and all these people. And, like, the fact that Diana Ross was there and Madonna and just, like, icons. It wasn't, you know, Charli d' Amelio and, like, loser. Like, it's like, it was actually a good year guess wise for Beyonce. Like, literally, Miley is there, there. She's so.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm just like, come on, please. Like, why. Why did you get it? Why did you have a show the night before? I'm glad you did because I was there.

[A]

But I mean, I'm glad she. You know, priorities. She skipped it this year.

[B]

That's so not on her radar. But, like, she.

[A]

I don't think she really likes to do. I don't think she's done it in a while.

[B]

No, it's been a long time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I thought, like, if there was going to be a time to go

[A]

support, it would be this one.

[B]

The one highlighting black.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Dandyism and black tailoring. That's literally her whole aesthetic right now. Oh, and speaking of icons showing up. Lauren Hill.

[A]

Oh, Lauren Hill. Which we missed.

[B]

Yeah, we. She was on live stream.

[A]

I love.

[B]

She actually might be my favorite.

[A]

Oh, I love her.

[B]

She might be my favorite above that yellow look, because that one, like, it was a little bit more on theme than Diana's.

[A]

And it's like Lauryn Hill.

[B]

Oh, you don't understand the fan. How? The fan that she had in her hand was, like, embroidered gold that, like, match her whole look. Like, she looked like, like such a boss. A. The guy holding her umbrella and she is a boss. And his hat was still, like, decorated and stuff. You could tell it wasn't just like, someone who was working the carpet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Literally. She actually might be my. Might be my favorite look.

[A]

Yeah, Ms. Lauryn Hill did kill it, literally.

[B]

And I got. What did you think about the whole carpet? Just in general?

[A]

I love the carpet. That blue.

[B]

This is like, the best one in years.

[A]

Those little daffodils or those little flowers

[B]

were just so gorgeous colors of the carpet. And that's honestly maybe why I like Lauren Hill so much is because she's wearing yellow too. Like, she looks like. Like the carpet was made for her. Oh, she just looks so sick. Kiki Palmer didn't like.

[A]

You didn't like it?

[B]

I thought it was cute. Gigi. I actually liked it.

[A]

You like Gigi's?

[B]

Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was pretty. Like, it's a beautiful gown. Halle Berry Showing her whole coochie coo mama.

[A]

And you're Halle Berry. You don't need to sh. Your coochie coo.

[B]

It's just like, I, I, I'm down

[A]

for a little coochie coo.

[B]

But, like, maybe I don't need to see the literal, like, like, like the, the fold.

[A]

Like, yeah, we were getting into like,

[B]

like, I didn't see that. You got a fresh wax.

[A]

Right. We're getting into dangerous territories. I, I will say, at least I appreciate her look better than I appreciated Amelia Rinna's. That was a, the most hideous thing I've seen ever. Well, Amelia Gray panties were Amelia Gray.

[B]

Her. Emilio Rinna.

[A]

Well, her real name is Rinna.

[B]

No, it's not. That's her mom's maiden name.

[A]

Okay, well, Dad's last name is not Ridda.

[B]

Harry Hamlin Gray. Amelia Gray Hamlin. Yeah. Okay. So I actually, initially, when I saw, I really liked it. No, I think it would have been a thousand times better if she didn't have the panties on under, like, the tan part.

[A]

Yeah. If it was all just that bunching that was that tan was doing was crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Because you couldn't tell if it was supposed to be a nude illusion, but then you realized it was like a panty over tight, like, but then a bodysuit over the panties. So it's just like too much fabric bunches. I don't know what that has to do with tailoring.

[A]

Nothing. She just was, you know, she's the shock factor girl these days. She wants to go for shock. I get.

[B]

Did that read as a do rag to you?

[A]

Yes. And I, yes to the do raggedness of it all is because, like, that's

[B]

what people are so upset about.

[A]

But I'm like, but she's been wearing the head wraps for a while.

[B]

But I understand. A durag is a very specific thing. We need to be very clear. And I'm not black, so maybe I'm wrong with this.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But we need to be very clear with, with specifics of things when it comes to, like, cultural appropriation.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A durag is a very specific type of head garment made in specific type of satin fabric.

[A]

Yeah, satin made for.

[B]

In a very specific tying situation. Like, I've worn Gucci scarves on my head. That or like, like when you go to Italy, you wear like, a silk scarf and you put it on your head so you're in a convertible and your hair's not blowing around, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's not a doag.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

I've done that. With a Gucci scarf and it's longer like that. Hers was lace, so it was very, like, Like g. Very boho. Like very 1950s flapper. Exactly. And it's like lace and it's tied and it was on. That is not a durag. So maybe because of the theme, the

[A]

timing was in a.

[B]

You're attaching it to that. But, like, I think that's like a slippery slope.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Of saying, like, just because she has something tied on her head, she was trying to do a durag. It's like, like, clearly she's not gonna do rag.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like that. She knows that that would be wrong.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And two, it's like, okay, well, so then no one's allowed to wear a piece of fabric on their head.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I just think it's time. I mean, it was poor. Poor choice On. On. On a carpet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, like, Tiana Taylor was wearing a durag.

[B]

It's like, it's like a. Like a white woman doing, like, box braids.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Versus, like, having, like, French braids. It's like, okay, just because you have braids tight to your head doesn't mean you're doing black girl brains. Right. You know, I get it, I get it. I just think it's a slippery slope.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But also, I'm not black, so what am I supposed to say? Who am I to know? Like, if black people are offended by it, then I guess that's your thoughts. Valid.

[A]

No, it's valid. But let's switch over to the men real quick.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And let's just. Quick fire.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, Quick fire.

[A]

Two seconds. Mostly the star standout of the evening and the gentleman's for me was Colman Domingo and that Andre Leon Talley inspired cape. And then that perfectly tailored suit he was wearing underneath.

[B]

Was trying to remember what he wore under. I remember the cape. I almost liked the cape more.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, then he had, like, a. Pins. Pinstripe.

[B]

Yeah. Right. His husband looked gorgeous.

[A]

I didn't see the husband.

[B]

He was wearing, like, a head to toe sequined.

[A]

You don't want to talk purple suit.

[B]

Let's not talk about the husband. Let's not talk about the husband. Okay.

[A]

So who was your standout gentleman off the top of your head, if you had one. If you have any to mine.

[B]

Oh, I really don't feel like the gentleman. Like, really. I mean, Alton Mason.

[A]

Every year for me, Alton Mason, like,

[B]

every year he wore this, like.

[A]

I guess I'm too old. I don't get it. The Pirate look was weird to me.

[B]

It was. Understand that just because he had an eye patch doesn't mean it's a pirate.

[A]

No, I just didn't understand it with the suit. I just didn't understand.

[B]

I thought it was so chic, so elevated. He just is like, like the most beautiful person on this planet to me. And so maybe like if like Austin Butler wore that, I'd be like, get out of my face, you loser. So maybe that's just.

[A]

It's like he has the swag to pull it off.

[B]

Only he could pull that off. Like, and he just like does it so confidently.

[A]

A gentleman that I think that didn't pull it off. Shabuzi.

[B]

Okay, So I actually love Shabuzi. He might be one of my best

[A]

men, but I think you. Yeah, I don't. Those pearls.

[B]

No, I loved it. I loved it.

[A]

Those pearls were looking cuz he brought

[B]

in like his like, like obviously he's like western, so he did like a lot of the turquoise. Bringing that into like his like dandies turquoise.

[A]

Yeah. The beating.

[B]

I loved it. I thought it was cool and I think it's like so exciting when a straight man.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

So bold. I loved it.

[A]

Maluma and Willie Chavaria.

[B]

I love Maluma. I hated your outfit, but I would love to suck your dick so bad.

[A]

You hated the outfit.

[B]

I didn't like him. And who was he with?

[A]

Willy Chavarria.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't drag race with us. That was the, the gentleman that I was telling you. I'm like, you need to follow this designer. Wait, he was with us, like standing next to us in Vegas. Yes. This is. I'm like, this is Willie Chavario.

[B]

No, it wasn't.

[A]

Yes, it was. That's Willy Chavario. He's best. He's really close friends with Rue

[B]

and that was him at the back.

[A]

Yeah. Who dressed him?

[B]

Okay, well, I would also like to suck your dick if you're so available. No. They looked so hot. But I just like, I didn't love the looks. They looked cool and like, once again, a straight guy, like, being fun. They were kind of colorful. He was like being all sexy and smiling to the fans. I liked it. It was cute.

[A]

My. I think hats. My favorite has to be Keith Powers in Boss.

[B]

Hello. I mean like, can I also suck your dick?

[A]

I mean like Powers whoever.

[B]

I don't know who that is, but like so hot, so chic.

[A]

He also looks like. This is what it. This. The theme is. It's like looking.

[B]

I know, but it's just A little like. Like, that's like on the nose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, I would like something different, but, like, I'll take it. Like, the bar is love.

[A]

But what I meant the theme. What I meant by this is the theme is, like, the confidence he wears, the clothes, like, the way he stood. All the men in Boss were freaking fire.

[B]

I would say, other than maybe like one or two. I didn't see one guy that I was like, that's atrocious. And normally you hate. There's a lot more. Right.

[A]

Jimmy Fallon, who keeps inviting him. Why is Jimmy Fallon? Oh, because he's best friends with Anna.

[B]

I think she's like New York royalty. You know, they play tennis together. Joe. Joey King has got to have something on Anna Wintour. Like, I'm. I'm serious.

[A]

Zach posing for Gap. I love that. Laura Harrier.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know who that little girly swirly is. Didn't she used to date Harry Styles or something?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't know who that girly swirly is.

[A]

She's gorgeous.

[B]

Your waist is so tiny.

[A]

She is gorgeous.

[B]

That look was so stunning.

[A]

Yeah, stunning.

[B]

Definitely one of the best of the night.

[A]

Yeah. And for Gap. Good for studio Gap.

[B]

I know. I don't really understand what that means.

[A]

I mean, it's like, it's Zach Posen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's honestly Zach Posen just like, hey, my lines flopped. Like, times gab.

[B]

You go in and get a 30 sweater. Like, what. What is this? Gap down? Yeah. Can we get a little taste? Can we get some nicer wares? Like.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Well, you know, I liked quickly Patrick Schwarzenegger. I loved his outfit. I thought the yellow was cool.

[B]

Okay. That's maybe my worst dressed man. Really? I thought it was cute. I didn't really like most of the Balmains as much either. Balmain. I didn't like Olivia Rousseau. I liked Rosalia's. It just literally was the exact same as Tyler's last year. But the sand. Yeah, like that bodycon straight to the thing. I understood the. The thought process of him saying, like, it's like the mannequin that you make everything on. I don't know. I just was like, okay, but who

[A]

wore the ruler dress?

[B]

Jenny Ortega. Jenna Ortega.

[A]

Ortega.

[B]

Love, love, love. It looked like she was about to come out here singing Run over to run Renaissance. Renaissance. No, that's ready to serve. Are you ready to slay?

[A]

That was great.

[B]

I loved it. I thought that was, like, so creative.

[A]

The king of Camp himself, Mr. Andre 3000 I loved the woman carrying the piano on his back. That is. That is a reference now. That is. That is not for us. That's not for everyone.

[B]

So what's the reference?

[A]

I mean, no, I'm just saying, like, that's not for, like, a story. That is just like, there's a story there.

[B]

Yeah. So I read someone saying that their interpretation of that was. Was. Cause he wore a piano on his back in a suit, and then he was carrying a trash bag. So someone wrote an interpretation. This could be completely false. This was just something I read online, but I liked. The interpretation was that black people have carried the music industry on their back and that they have created so much of the music industry, which is so much about what Beyonce's project is about, and then white people just steal it and then send them out with the trash.

[A]

I like that reference. See, I like the.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And I think, again, I think it's like. I don't think that look was for us to try to understand.

[B]

No, for sure. Like, when I first saw it, I was like, sir, why do you have a piano on your bike? And then, you know, I. I started to, like, a little bit more and more.

[A]

Hot take. I wasn't here for the man in the F1 suit that ripped off his suit. I didn't like that. I didn't think it was cute. I didn't. People are like, oh, my God, that was the biggest.

[B]

You're not allowed to come out onto the red carpet with logos. I'm sorry.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

There was eight. There was a ninja logo. Like. Like a ninja blender.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm so sorry. Absolutely not. And also, I don't understand. I'm like, is he a race car driver?

[A]

He's in the movie.

[B]

What movie?

[A]

F1 movie that's coming out.

[B]

Oh, okay. Well, that makes a little bit more sense.

[A]

Which I didn't understand why Brad Pitt wasn't there. But that's beside the point because he's also in the movie. Yeah. There were, like, really no real. I mean, the men were all dressed great. There was no one that I didn't like. There was no one that I didn't hate.

[B]

I'm trying to think through if I'm missing anyone that I really liked him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Scroll through really quick.

[A]

Okay. Let's talk about houses. Tom Brown was obviously. This was a show made for him.

[B]

I don't think he, like, really killed it, though.

[A]

I don't think he killed it either,

[B]

because, like, what's his name?

[A]

Except for Whoopi Goldbergs.

[B]

Yeah, I know. She. Yeah, yeah, she killed it.

[A]

Whoopies. And then she.

[B]

Oh, and the queen of the Met Gala, maybe the best dress of the night. Lesbian.

[A]

Lesbian.

[B]

Lesbian.

[A]

Hunter Schaefer.

[B]

No. Lesbian singer. Bald. No, she's not bald. Black. It's like charades.

[A]

Oh, Janelle Monae. Janelle Monae. I mean, Janelle Monet. That's expected. But I loved it.

[B]

It was like this thing was made for her.

[A]

Oh, yeah. 1,000.

[B]

But like, it was so perfectly done.

[A]

It was perfectly done.

[B]

The coat and then the suit under, like with the time machine over her eye. Like, like every single detail was perfection. I loved her after party look. I loved everything.

[A]

Here's the thing, the same year thing last year that we said about Mama Ru showing up in drag, and it would have been perfect for her. And why Mama Ru didn't do that is because you come to expect that. And I'm glad Janelle Monae didn't just wear a suit because she could have worn a suit impeccably.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I like that there was more to it.

[B]

Elements.

[A]

There was a story. There was a coat that.

[B]

No, for sure.

[A]

I mean, it was like a whole thing that was gorgeous.

[B]

100%. This thing was like literally made for her.

[A]

Also Whoopi Goldberg's coat. She was saying people were going up her, trying to touch her, thinking it was fur. It was sequins.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

All of those are sequins. She was talking about it on the View because, you know, I watched the View.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, she. She looks great. The only one out of Tom Brown that I really didn't care for was Lord. Well, Lord and Walter Goggins.

[A]

I like Walton Coggins.

[B]

I didn't like it.

[A]

I didn't think it was.

[B]

It just like felt like something I could go get off the rack.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

yeah.

[A]

It didn't make sense for the Runway, but I liked it.

[B]

Speaking of sequins, what do you think about Pamela Anderson's? Really? It was cute.

[A]

I think it was cute.

[B]

Wait, I loved it. I thought she looked so gorgeous. I loved her haircut. I love the no makeup.

[A]

I mean, the no makeup thing we've come to expect from her now. But I don't necessarily think that. Who dressed her? Calvin Klein?

[B]

I actually don't. Cuz her son went with, I think Tory Burch, but I don't think she was so, you know, I've met him. Like, I know him.

[A]

Her son is one handsome man.

[B]

Yeah, he's a cutie. Yeah, he used to.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Like, you know, I'VE been to Pamela Anderson's house. No, I swear I've talked about this on the pod. Wait, maybe it was on the podcast episode that got deleted. No, I've been to Pamela Anderson's house with her son.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Anyways. But yeah, I thought they looked great.

[A]

Okay. Also, I think. I mean, I don't really know if any of there's anyone, but let's talk about the AI Ness of it all, you idiot losers.

[B]

Open the schools. Keep the Department of Education open and run by. Not an idiot who thinks that AI is called A1. You're an idiot. You're a loser. It is called AI not A1. Open the school. Please. Fund the schools. The head of the Department of Education. That dumb bitch runs the ufc. What's her name? I don't know. Open the schools. Because half the Internet is falling for AI year by year by year.

[A]

Last year, they got me gal.

[B]

You were dumb because it was really bad. This year, I had to Google.

[A]

They got me gal.

[B]

I had to Google and be like, you can just always tell when there's only one photo, right? When there's only one. And then you Google and there's only one, it's AI Right? Like, there wasn't a million. Think about the mega. There's a thousand different angles. It would have been on video cameras so fast.

[A]

Like, I know someone would have got her coming out of the Marco towel.

[B]

And everyone was, like, freaking out that it was so good. We're talking about Katy Perry. I don't know if we said that right.

[A]

Yeah, I said came as Katy Perry.

[B]

Our space.

[A]

Our space hero.

[B]

I didn't even like it that much.

[A]

Our space cadet.

[B]

Oh, you want to talk about space cadets? I know you don't want to talk about Gayle King's outfit.

[A]

Oh, I didn't watch it. I didn't even know she went. I didn't even see it. Ms. Gayle King. Also our.

[B]

She actually might be the worst dressed.

[A]

Our vice President was there. Ms. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. Kamala was there.

[B]

She might be the worst dressed.

[A]

Oh, mama.

[B]

She's wearing a purple peplum dress with red hair.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It's plaid.

[A]

No, that's bad, mama. Bad.

[B]

It looks like it's. She's gonna be like. Like a Tyler Perry movie for, like, a senior citizen prom.

[A]

No, it's pretty bad. It's giving Pirates of the Caribbean anyways, people.

[B]

Yeah, the. The AI of it all.

[A]

I'm just likeness of it all.

[B]

Like, literally, people were doing Legit tick tocks. Saying that this was her best year. Like, she looks so amazing. I mean, it's crazy.

[A]

I didn't get that far, but I

[B]

literally commented on when I was like, sister, we cannot fall for AI If. If our peers are falling for this. Think about our parents, and it's all fun and games. When it's about the Met Gala, when the next election cycle comes around, we're screwed. You know, I feel like we're probably missing a lot of people like, Dua Lipa.

[A]

Oh, sleep. Bye. Go to sleep, girl.

[B]

I don't know what. What's happening? Leave there.

[A]

Hated it. That fit was horrible. And actually, this is a perfect segue. Are we done talking about the Met Gala? Because I feel like I shared my two cents. I. And come to share. I mean, listen, I was in my couch like everyone else was, doing my little work in my sweats and T shirts. So I go to Mayo.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I'm just here giving my thoughts and opinions. Take it or leave it. I didn't go to fashion school. I could.

[B]

Oh, did we not. Did we not say that at the top of the episode?

[A]

Mama, these are my thoughts.

[B]

I am fully aware that I am the class clown, the absolute Bob Fuckery, the absolute, like, utter disgrace to fashion that I am.

[A]

You can pull a look out, though.

[B]

You're right. I could. I actually would kill them that way.

[A]

You could pull a look out.

[B]

No, I'm trying to make them feel better. No, I know anything we say can and will be used against us at a later date in the future when I wear something absolutely heinous on red carpet and you are allowed to rip me to shreds. And I welcome that criticism with open arms.

[A]

Well, I don't, so don't do it to me. I'm just kidding.

[B]

Also, like, at the end of the day, like, it is just not that serious. That is. That is what these events I think invite and what makes them so fun. And I think there are people that absolutely probably ripped you apart, and I hated your look.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I love you as a person.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And if I saw. If I saw that outfit in person, I would probably wear it.

[A]

Listen, as we learned from last week's episode, you know, we know how to eat crow and bite our tongue when we say some things about people and then we find out they're nicer or cooler or weird.

[B]

Wait, who?

[A]

Lizzo. You know.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Right, right, right. Wait. Yeah. Did you like her outfit? Cute. Simone Biles. Heinous. I mean, there's a Million people. I could go on for days.

[A]

I mean, we could do a whole dissertation on. On our thoughts.

[B]

Anne Hathaway.

[A]

Annie Hathaway. I will say Annie Hathaway. I just need your surgeon mama. I need that.

[B]

She could have done more.

[A]

That face needs. I need that. Whatever she is doing, I need. And allegedly. And if she hasn't done anything, then what's your secret? Because your face looks.

[B]

Hunter Schaefer.

[A]

Hunter Schaefer look great.

[B]

Okay, so who was your best dress and who was your worst dressed?

[A]

Oh, geez. I feel like I've. I've already said Shakira.

[B]

Did you like I hate it.

[A]

No. And her designer always gives me the worst energy because he's always so frantic.

[B]

I think he actually might be one of my best friends.

[A]

Yeah, that's the.

[B]

What's his name? I know.

[A]

Digit Dilgit.

[B]

Dilgit Diljit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Das.

[A]

When I tell you he gets 5 million likes on his pictures.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Like, he is famous.

[B]

He's so hot. And his outfit is gorgeous. Literally the most beautiful garment I've ever seen. You guys know I love like Middle Eastern

[A]

Don Sanj. 4.3 million likes. 77, 000 comments. 211 shares. 11, 000 shares. What does he do? He's just a famous, like he's like the. I don't want to say Drake, but he's like.

[B]

Oh, he's a singer.

[A]

Yeah, he's like a. Oh, okay.

[B]

Okay. He's like, oh my God, like pop star. I'm obsessed,

[A]

you know?

[B]

Wow. I mean, we could go on for literally days, you guys. Because they're just so many people.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

And then there's like the after party looks. I'm like, I don't even know how. There's like drama. I'm like, what else did I need to get into?

[A]

I'll say this. My top look of the night has probably has to be Ms. Diana Ross.

[B]

I think mine is a toss between Lauryn Hill and Diana Ross. Just the absolute, like not even like Lauryn Hills to me is more about the outfit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Diana Ross's is so much more about like the glamour and the energy that she brought. The presence that she brought was so just like black royalty. Lauryn Hills was also that, but like also matching the theme. So on point. Like literally perfection with the umbrella, the guy holding it, the fan that matched every, like match the carpet, every part of it. She came in so calm, cool and collected.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My worst dressed is discounting the girls

[A]

in the gowns because I'm not all the Girls.

[B]

Yeah, I know. If it's boring, that's not even worse, Right? That's not like, Heidi Clum. You don't deserve worst dress because you don't even deserve to be talked about.

[A]

Right? Like, it's just, like, whatever. You're not on theme. Worst dress. I would have. I don't know. It's like, who was the. I don't. I mean, I. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I don't know. That's hard one.

[A]

That's a tough one. I mean, I think everyone now knows to, like, not flop it, but it might be. Oh, I mean, is it Gail King?

[B]

It might be Gail. It might be Gail. And I know we just said, like, the boring girls don't, like, get worse, but, like, Hailey Bieber might be my worst.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just because it was so boring. Like, literally a blazer with your hair down. Like, please try less.

[A]

I'm just glad that Vogue didn't do a full get ready with me.

[B]

Did you get the invite yesterday?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, was it last minute? Like, this is literally a blazer dress that I could go in and get at Zara, but if I'm going, like, ugliest, just, like, clownery. It might be Gayle King.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's Gail. I'll give it to Gail.

[B]

Wait, we didn't. We never even talked about Rihanna's.

[A]

Oh, I mean, perfection from head to toe. Like, there's nothing more beautiful, gorgeous, black excellence.

[B]

She could have gone a little, like, funkier. I don't know.

[A]

I think it was. It was perfect.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

It was perfect.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

And she was there with her man who was a chair of the, you know, gala. She wanted to be a supporting character.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You're right. You're right.

[A]

Even, like, asap. I don't know if you saw the interview. ASAP was like. They were like, okay. Like, they took a picture. They were taking a picture of them together, and they're like, okay, Rihanna. Can we just get a picture of ASAP by himself? And he's like, I'm never asked to just be by myself in a picture.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's always like, oh, can you move so I can get Rihanna?

[B]

So was he liking it or not?

[A]

Yeah, no, he was just, like, shocked that he was like. He was kind of, like, laughing. He's like, it's never just me.

[B]

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right, you're right.

[A]

Like, and I think for being she likes, co chair. Yeah.

[B]

She's like, but his outfit could have Been bigger then.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but it's also ASAP there, guys.

[B]

There's so many people.

[A]

Future takes a big L. What was he wearing?

[B]

I didn't see him.

[A]

Now, that was giving H and M collection. And you know, I love H and M collection.

[B]

Oh, my God. Wait, Future.

[A]

Future Fade. It didn't fit him well.

[B]

Oh, that's heinous. I don't even think I know what he, like, looked like.

[A]

It does not fit him well.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's not good. It's definitely not tailored, that's for sure.

[A]

Yeah, that's the weird part. But I don't know, who am I to say? I mean, again, I. I don't think it's bad. I just think it was poorly fitted.

[B]

There's so many. I think, like I said this year, it was so hard to, like, almost mess up the theme.

[A]

I almost feel like I don't like it. To say most worst for me, because I'm like, what about if they email me?

[B]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like, we are heinous. I'm wearing a hoodie, right? From a coffee shop.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like I have no rhyme or reason. But if we as a society take ourselves so seriously that we can't even comment on the rich and famous's outfits that they wear to the Met Gala, we have lost the plot. Like, what are we doing? Like, yeah, that's what pop culture is. Like, it's just public.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Culture that is up for, like, commentary and discussion and that creates community. It creates conversation. It creates, like, these moments. And like I said, I could hate your fucking outfit. I could literally be obsessed with you and like, guess what? Beyonce could have went yesterday and I could have absolutely hated her look. Like, that's. No, there's been outfits of Gagas that I haven't liked. There's been outfits of, like, people that I love. Lana Del Rey. Her outfit's not good. I don't like it. I love Lisa. I didn't like her outfit. Yeah, like, it's not that serious, right? And if we have lost the ability to converse freely with our girlfriends and our gays and the non binary community about fashion, then literally, how is life worth living?

[A]

Yeah, I get it.

[B]

Like Joan Rivers. What's her name? Joan Rivers. Joan Rivers used to come up on here and literally say people were on drugs, looking fat.

[A]

We're like, literally, can you imagine Joan Rivers if she still lived? And this Ozempic trend, she would eat these girls up.

[B]

Oh, she'd be on it.

[A]

Well, she'd also be on it. Yeah.

[B]

But who are we to judge?

[A]

Here? We are, though. We wrapped up another year of the Met Gala.

[B]

There were just. Wow. I didn't realize this. I thought we were going to, like, talk for literally one second.

[A]

I know. It's been two hours.

[B]

It's been two hours. There's, like, a lot of other things I wanted to talk about, but I guess we will save them for another rant because this has been so long. I could literally talk about fashion and the Met Gala for years. I. I think this year was one of my favorite years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because of the chicness of it. It was so hard. Like, people weren't showing up in costumes like last year. Like, Jared Leto showing up in a cat mascot. Like, this is the Met Gala. I liked it. And at the moment, like, it's fun, Right? But, like, it almost. This year. This year, remind. No, it wasn't. It was Karl Lagerfeld.

[A]

Oh, that's right. That's right.

[B]

Like, stupid.

[A]

I forget.

[B]

So, like, I think over the years, like, we've kind of lost the plot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The themes have gotten more specific. Heavenly bodies and, you know, trying to do the looking glasses. Like, we kind of got more specific. This one kind of broadened it up again to just be, like, beautiful tailoring, beautiful gowns, a gorgeous theme. They finally hit the nail on the coffin with the carpet and the coloring.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That was the lighting. Everything's stunning. I feel like in years past, it's like, what is this birthday party cake happening on the carpet? Like, even if you have a good outfit, it's ruined by this eyesore that I'm looking at by this dumb red carpet. So this year, I feel like the red carpet and the flowers highlighted every outfit and really, like, sold me the story. Like, if I saw all those outfits just walking on the street, maybe I wouldn't have liked him as much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, I was just sold with the fantasy, with the whole atmosphere, and so I'll give my snaps to vote for that.

[A]

And again, to wrap this up on that note, though, like, Anna Wintour sees all these before they hit the carpet. Oh, that's not true.

[B]

Yeah, that has been proven false.

[A]

Oh, so she doesn't have final say.

[B]

Yes. That has been a rumor that's moving around online that Anna Wintour gets final approval and. And sees the outfits that everyone sees. I don't know how that rumor got out and how she never shut that down earlier, because I would actually be offended that, like, you thought I approved half of that crap.

[A]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

And that's why I thought it was

[A]

like, okay, so she. There must be some.

[B]

How would she have allowed three people to. Or three people to show up in the same outfit as Zendaya? There wasn't even just one girl. There was, like, two others that were, like, very, very similar.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She would never allow people to show up in the same outfit as Zendaya. Like, no. So that is false. I think some people that she's close with, like, ask for tips.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Like, she said that Colman Domingo, like, explained her his outfit to her or whatever, and she was like, great. And then I think Pharrell, like, wouldn't show her a picture, but kind of briefly described it and she was like, great. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, like Andre. Andre Leon Talley. Like, all those reference, like, of course. Running by Anna. Is it tasteful? Most notably, though, I did want to say before we wrap, we keep dropping. No, no, no. I want to. I do want to rap. There was some cool things that off of. Of style.com, which I love. They're. I love what they do. But there was a lot of designers that skipped this year. Mugler. There was no Mugler.

[B]

Well, Katy Perry was wearing Mugler.

[A]

No Gaultier? No. No. Jpg. No Loewe. No Celine? No Gucci? No Margiela?

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

No Fendi? No. No Parenza Schuler? No Rick Owens.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

No Bottega? No Chloe? No Rabban? No Giorgio Armani.

[B]

Okay. Like, I don't want to start anything.

[A]

No Dolce and Gabbana. No D Squared.

[B]

I don't want to start anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't want to be problematic, but, like, does, like, are you all racist? Like, why?

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

Like, are they.

[A]

I think. I wonder. Like, here's my take. I wonder if they were afraid to step in a territory they didn't feel comfortable stepping in. But again, it's like, open to interpretation. So, like, no, that's fun with it. And I think.

[B]

Think.

[A]

I mean, yes, obviously the goal is that you'd want to work with a black designer or whatever. Like, if you're a black artist, probably you probably chose a black designer. But a lot of these houses, Tom Brown is a as white as they come.

[B]

Every. Every. Every designer is white.

[A]

Right.

[B]

The only ones that are black are Louis Vuitton men's.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Maximilian in Ferragamo, Roustang in Balmain. Olivia. We're saying. Who else? Like, most of them are white.

[A]

Yeah. From the big houses. You Mean, from, like, the big Gucci,

[B]

Valentino, Dolce and Gabbana Dior. Right. They're all white.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it definitely raises my eyebrows. I'm sure not all of them. It's like they're racist. It's just like.

[A]

Okay, yeah, like, you.

[B]

When was the last time you skipped? And this is the one you're skipping out on, right?

[A]

Yeah, it's interesting.

[B]

Like, that's kind of crazy.

[A]

I will say Anna looked like she was having fun. From the video from Ms. Anna. Anna Wintour.

[B]

Yeah. It's cute, you know, just because I

[A]

know her so well.

[B]

You can tell when she's just chilling. Ms. Wintour. I've sat behind her at a show before. Well, I've been in the same. Like, five. Five rows behind.

[A]

I've been in the same room.

[B]

Literally. The fact that I've been to a Tom Ford fashion show and sat behind and went tour is, like, so crazy.

[A]

I went to the first men's Tom Ford show. Okay. Really?

[B]

Wait, like, ever?

[A]

Like, in New York? Yeah.

[B]

The first men's Tom Ford show ever. What are you, 85 years old?

[A]

No, no, no. Tom Ford men's. Only for his men's collection.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Wait, that's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I was there.

[B]

I went to the first Costa Blanco show. It's just like. You know what? We actually are qualified. We are qualified to be speaking about this. Okay. I've been to one fashion show before, so that makes me the fashion police.

[A]

Yeah. And literally, you're the reincarnation of Joan Rivers.

[B]

And don't you dare, ever.

[A]

And I'll be.

[B]

Screenshot my feed and tell me what

[A]

you think about my outfits, and I'll be Melissa Rivers.

[B]

Tyrants.

[A]

We love you. Yeah. This was so much fun.

[B]

That was a fun little recap. Once again, it ain't that serious. And if we lost the. If two gays have lost the ability to judge some bitches in fashion, then we have lost everything we really have. Have fun with life, tyrants.