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God, who created heaven and earth, has made Christ the Lord of the Universe. He rules. He doesn't wait for you to invite Him. One of the most divisive controversies of the last 25 years has been called the Lordship Salvation Controversy. You've heard it popularized by the idea of the carnal Christian. I talked to a young man a couple of years ago and he had professed Christ, said he was a Christian. He was not only using drugs illicitly, but he was selling them when was living with a girl that was not his wife and was involved in a completely hedonistic lifestyle with no manifestation whatsoever of anything of godliness. I asked him about this and he said, don't worry, it's okay. I'm a carnal Christian. That is, I've received Jesus as my Savior, but I'm going to wait a while before I submit to him as my Lord. You see, that disjunction that is of recent origin between Christ as Savior and Christ as Lord is as foreign and antithetical to the New Testament as anything can be. I get terrified when I listen to the jargon of Christians who say, I asked Jesus into my heart and I invited him to be the Lord of my life. Have you ever heard that? What was he before that invitation? As a matter of objective reality, God, who created heaven and earth, has made Christ the Lord of the Universe. He rules. He doesn't wait for you to invite Him. He rules you whether you want him to rule you or don't want him to rule you. You can be hostile to his reign. You can be a renegade in his dominion. You may fight against his just empowerment as the King of the Kings and Lord of the Lords, but all of that does not reduce him to to impotency. What is impotent are our attempts to supplant him as Lord because God has decreed His Lordship.
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Podcast: Ultimately with R.C. Sproul
Episode Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Ligonier Ministries
Featured Speaker: R.C. Sproul
This episode explores the Lordship of Jesus Christ, confronting the “Lordship Salvation Controversy” and the popularly held distinction between accepting Christ as Savior and submitting to Him as Lord. Drawing on biblical doctrine and personal experience, R.C. Sproul emphatically challenges the concept of a “carnal Christian” and underscores the truth that Christ’s rule is an objective, unassailable reality—the centerpiece of what ultimately matters.
"God, who created heaven and earth, has made Christ the Lord of the Universe. He rules. He doesn't wait for you to invite Him." (00:00)
"You've heard it popularized by the idea of the carnal Christian." (00:20)
"That disjunction... between Christ as Savior and Christ as Lord is as foreign and antithetical to the New Testament as anything can be." (01:09)
"I get terrified when I listen to the jargon of Christians who say, 'I asked Jesus into my heart and I invited him to be the Lord of my life. Have you ever heard that? What was he before that invitation?'" (01:28)
"He rules you whether you want him to rule you or don't want him to rule you. You can be hostile to his reign. ... but all of that does not reduce him to to impotency." (01:50)
"What is impotent are our attempts to supplant him as Lord because God has decreed His Lordship." (02:18)
"He doesn't wait for you to invite Him. He rules you whether you want him to rule you or don't want him to rule you." (01:34)
"That disjunction... is as foreign and antithetical to the New Testament as anything can be." (01:09)
"I'm a carnal Christian. That is, I've received Jesus as my Savior, but I'm going to wait a while before I submit to him as my Lord." (00:39)
"God has decreed His Lordship." (02:19)
This episode strongly asserts the inseparability of Christ’s roles as Savior and Lord. R.C. Sproul clarifies that Jesus reigns over all by divine decree, and human perceptions or misconceptions cannot alter that reality. Listeners are called to renew their perspective and submission to what ultimately matters: the unassailable Lordship of Jesus Christ.