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We don't go to a mountain that is belching smoke and lightning and thunder that cannot be touched by human hands, But we enter into the heavenly sanctuary, into the presence of the General assembly on high. I preached in a church here in Orlando several years ago, and they had two services on Sunday morning, and the second service they had about 800 people. And the first service they had about 30 people. It was at 8 o' clock in the morning. So I came to the first service in this huge big building, and there's over a thousand chairs there and only 30 of them are occupied. I'm a real draw for a Sunday morning preacher. And I stood up there and I said to the folks who were gathered at 8 o', clock, I said, I have to tell you, anytime I come to preach in front of such a vast multitude of people, I'm intimidated. And they laughed. And I said, I'm not kidding. I said, do you know what's going on here this morning? Do you know what the Bible says that when we come together in our assembly, we don't go to a mountain that is belching smoke and lightning and thunder that cannot be touched by human hands, but we enter into the heavenly sanctuary, into the presence of the angels, of the archangels, of God, of Christ, of the spirits of just men made perfect, and the General assembly on high. This is what we confess in the Apostles Creed when we speak of the communion of saints.
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Podcast: Ultimately with R.C. Sproul
Host: Ligonier Ministries
Date: June 29, 2026
This episode explores the profound reality of Christian worship—not as a mere earthly gathering, but as a spiritual participation in the heavenly sanctuary. Drawing from biblical teaching and personal ministry experience, R.C. Sproul reflects on what it means to worship "in the presence of the General assembly on high" alongside angels and saints, and how understanding this truth brings perspective and solemnity to even the smallest gathering of believers.
Setting the Scene:
Sproul shares an experience preaching in Orlando where the attendance at the early service was sparse—a vast room of over a thousand chairs and only 30 people present. He uses humor to lighten the mood but quickly transitions to a profound lesson.
The Invisible Audience:
Despite the small visible crowd, Sproul reminds the congregation (and listeners) that worship is always conducted before an innumerable company—angels, archangels, God, Christ, and the "spirits of just men made perfect."
On Heavenly Worship:
"We don't go to a mountain that is belching smoke and lightning and thunder ... but we enter into the heavenly sanctuary, into the presence of the General assembly on high."
— R.C. Sproul (A, 00:00)
On Preaching to Few and Many:
"Anytime I come to preach in front of such a vast multitude of people, I'm intimidated."
— R.C. Sproul, with characteristic humor (A, 00:23)
On Who We Worship With:
"We...enter into the presence of the angels, of the archangels, of God, of Christ, of the spirits of just men made perfect, and the General assembly on high."
— R.C. Sproul (A, 00:50)
On Historic Christian Perspective:
"This is what we confess in the Apostles Creed when we speak of the communion of saints."
— R.C. Sproul (A, 01:55)
R.C. Sproul calls listeners to a deeper awareness of what truly matters in worship. No matter the size of the earthly gathering, believers are joined with the entire “General assembly on high.” Worship is never just an earthly affair—it is a participation in the heavenly reality, as confessed in the historic Christian creed.
This episode invites Christians to renew their minds and savor the awe-inspiring privilege of worship “in the heavenly sanctuary.”