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Jason (0:59)

I am unashamed. What about you?

Al (1:04)

All right, so welcome back to Unashamed. Christian is still with us. He was so riveted. He was. He was so amazed at what he witnessed in the last podcast he had. He had to stay.

Jason (1:17)

It's just distractions. Distractions. It's like shooting, you know, when you, when you duck hunt. Because I've seen you shoot now, which. Well, we, we. I got a common deal.

TJ Watt (1:31)

That'd be funny.

Jason (1:31)

To help train. Who is that talking to?

Al (1:34)

He's talking to people off camera. I don't know. He's.

Jason (1:37)

I'm sorry. I got distracted doing a podcast. Well, I've been distracted for 50 minutes. It's called the previous podcast. You know what?

Al (1:47)

It's going back to James, Remember that bumper sticker you bought that said, I'm surrounded by idiots?

Jason (1:53)

Well, I'm trying to read the Bible.

Al (1:57)

And Zach's reading the lyrics of the songs. It just threw you off.

Jason (2:00)

Yeah. And I was like, let me push back a little bit. And then he got his feelings hurt and the next thing you know, we're off the rail.

Summary

Unashamed with the Robertson Family — Ep 1165

Title: Jase Forms a Battle Plan Against Evil in Our World
Release Date: September 15, 2025
Hosts: Phil, Al, Jase, Zach, Christian (guest)

Overview

In this episode, the Robertson family dives deep into the nature of "the world" as discussed in 1 John and the Gospel of John. Jase leads the group in examining what it means for Christians to be "not of this world" and how believers are called to live differently by embodying the love, light, and truth of Jesus. The conversation connects rich biblical themes to practical daily living, all while highlighting the family's unique blend of humor and real-life wisdom from West Monroe, Louisiana.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Duck Call Debate & Family Dynamics

Timestamps: 01:17–17:50

The episode opens with lighthearted banter and a “battle” about who can successfully blow a duck call, complete with demonstrations and gentle teasing.
Jase emphasizes teaching thousands to use a duck call, highlighting that success is more about “learning something new with your body” than raw physical ability.
- Jase: “Learning how to blow a duck call unique... it’s not about physical capabilities or practice. There’s something you do with your body you’ve never done before. If you never do it for the first time, you’re never going to figure it out.” (04:10–04:45)
The analogy of “air from the diaphragm” and “pressurized air” is used to describe both duck calling and, later, spiritual matters.
Laughter erupts as personal stories and failed attempts at duck calls are shared, creating a warm, accessible environment for listeners.

Notable moment:
Jase recounts a story about someone misunderstanding “hit it a lick on the other end” by literally hitting and licking the duck call. (09:16)

2. Transition: From Ducks to Discipleship

Timestamps: 17:58–20:10

The tone shifts as Jase pivots to the main spiritual discussion, returning to 1 John 2 and the problem of “the world.”
- Jase: “That brings me to the point I never got to make... tackling this idea of the world... don’t be shocked if the world hates you.” (18:20)
The Robertsons set up the biblical context for “the world,” noting it does not refer to creation itself but the sinful systems and desires that oppose God.

3. Scriptural Exploration: Light, Love, and the World

Timestamps: 18:54–32:14

The group unpacks 1 John 2:15–17 and John 15, focusing on:
- The “cravings of sinful man, lust of the eyes, and pride of life” as the real enemies.
- The biblical concept that having flesh doesn’t equate to sin; even Jesus became flesh without sinning.
Emphasis on the command to love one another as Christ loved us.
- Jase: “Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.” (20:24)
- Al: “This has been the whole theme.” (21:52)
The contrast between light and darkness, belonging to God versus the world, and the practical challenge of walking like Jesus.

4. The Reality of Spiritual Warfare & Identity

Timestamps: 32:04–39:10

The discussion turns to the spiritual battle for identity—being “of” the world vs “of” God.
The story of Cain and Abel illustrates the consequences of being “of the evil one.”
- “Don’t be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.” (1 John 3:13; echoed in John 15:18)
The group stresses that passing “from death to life” is shown by loving others, which is evidence of spiritual transformation:
- Jase: “Anyone who does not love remains in death.” (28:01)
The conversation highlights that love must be demonstrated in action and truth, not just words.
- Jase: “Let us not love with words or tongue, but with actions and in truth.” (29:01)
The presence of the Holy Spirit empowers believers to love and live as Jesus did.

5. The Two Worlds: Engrossed or Transformed?

Timestamps: 39:10–52:25

The Roberts explore Paul’s writings, especially 1 Corinthians 7 and Romans 12, elucidating:
- Christians live in “a world within a world.”
- The world’s “present form is passing away” (1 Corinthians 7:31) and believers are not to be “engrossed” in it.
  - Jase: “You can’t get engrossed in the world, because you’re not of the world.” (45:01)
- Marriage and daily life have to be kept in perspective compared to undivided devotion to Christ.
Romans 12:1–2 is read to underscore the need for transformed minds rather than conformity to the world.
The group cautions against Gnosticism (falsely viewing the physical world as inherently evil), emphasizing that the world’s current broken state is not its final form.

6. Hope and Mission: Shining as Lights

Timestamps: 52:25–end

Jase shares a personal “aha moment” while flying, quoting Philippians 2:14–16:
- Believers are called to “shine like stars in the universe”—or, more accurately, the “world.”
- Jase: “You become the luminaries of the world.” (54:49)
This motif connects to Revelation 21, where God’s people are radiant as the new creation.
The episode closes with the reminder that the gift of the Holy Spirit enables believers to both withstand the world’s hate and testify to the truth:
- Jase: “You’re going to be like a star in the world.” (58:17)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“The primary way that we actually identify that we are housing the Holy Spirit is by our love. They’ll know we’re Christians by our love...”
— Zach (33:56)
“Duck hunting is the most legislated thing you can do in life. We have our rules, Al.”
— Jase (35:14)
“This is not about being a servant in this capacity, I’m calling you friends... laying down your life for your friends.”
— Jase unpacking John 15 (28:55)
“You become the luminaries of the world.”
— Jase (54:49)
“You can’t get engrossed in the world, because you’re not of the world.”
— Jase (45:01)
“The present form is not going to be the final form... God's temple is ever expanding.”
— Zach (50:10, 56:15)

Key Timestamps

01:17–17:50 – Duck calls, teaching, and family banter
18:20 – Transition to theme: Christians & “the world”
20:24–22:26 – Scriptural foundation: 1 John 2, John 15
28:01 – “Anyone who does not love remains in death.”
33:56 – Fruit of the Spirit and love as a test of Spirit-filled living
45:01 – Warning against being engrossed by the world
54:49 – Christians as “luminaries” in a dark world
58:17–end – Final thoughts: shining, persevering, and living on mission

Takeaway

This episode offers practical and deeply theological reflections on living as Christians in a fallen world. The Robertsons urge listeners to root their identity in Christ, demonstrate God’s love tangibly, and resist the distractions and values of the present age. The consistent thread: when you are filled with God’s Spirit, your life becomes a light—“a star in the world”—despite persecution or hardship.

For those who haven't listened, this summary captures the blend of Scripture, humor, and down-to-earth teaching that makes Unashamed both engaging and convicting.

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Ep 1165 | Jase Forms a Battle Plan Against Evil in Our World