Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1220 | Jase Suffers a Creepy Encounter Alone in the Woods & Where Do Our Souls Go When We Die?

Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: Jase, Jason, Zach

Episode Overview

In this episode, the Robertson brothers reunite to honor the legacy of their father with an opening day duck hunt, reflect on deep questions about death and the afterlife, and explore the biblical and theological concepts surrounding what happens to the soul when we die. The discussion offers personal anecdotes, biblical exposition, and a bit of signature Robertson humor as they delve into the meaning of resurrection, burial customs, and Christian hope for eternal life.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Robertson Brothers Reunite for Duck Season ([05:14]–[09:15])

• The brothers discuss their plans to duck hunt together for the first time in decades in honor of their father, who passed away last summer.
• The unique dryness of the season is highlighted—boots are not needed for this year's hunt due to lack of water.
• Willie is characteristically hedging his commitment, citing a busy schedule but shows intent to attend:

  “What time are we meeting? ... I have a tight schedule. I have to flip a coin at the Louisiana Tech Liberty football game tomorrow.” —Willie via Jason ([06:45])

• The hunt is a symbolic passing of the torch and a way to uphold family legacy:

  “The four brothers ... will be in the blind tomorrow. The last time we probably all four were ducking together would at least be a couple of decades ago.” —Jase ([05:55])

2. Family Updates and Personal Stories ([09:45]–[16:34])

• Zach shares that his kids’ band, Max and Layla Dash, will open for Larry Fleet’s tour, including a European leg ([10:33]).
• He revisits the adoption story of his daughter, Ruth, and marvels at God’s providence and the unexpected way his family expanded ([15:56]).

  “Me and Jill had a ... moment of tears just remembering how blessed we are now that we have Ruth in our life ... it wasn’t random on God’s part.” —Zach ([16:10])

3. The Crucifixion and Prophecy Fulfillment ([17:17]–[21:47])

• The hosts discuss the culmination of Jesus’ signs in John 19: the crucifixion, with emphasis on how Old Testament prophecies (especially Psalm 22) are fulfilled.
• Zach points out the narrative arc from Genesis to Jesus’ work:

  “…the Bible’s a story of how God gets his family back... if you read the culmination of Psalm 22 ... all the families of the nations will bow down before him. For dominion belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.” —Zach ([19:35])

• The phrase “it is finished” marks the completion of this cosmic mission and the launching of a “new creation.”

  “Now we enter the 8th day.” —Jase quoting N.T. Wright ([21:42])

4. Burial of Jesus: Historical & Theological Importance ([21:59]–[31:09])

• The passage about Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus preparing Jesus’ body for burial is read and discussed.
• Significance in apologetics:

  "If they would have buried him in just a normal tomb, ... who knows where he would have been buried? But the fact ... [it was] Joseph of Arimathea’s tomb ... really is a tremendous evidence in the defense of this claim that Christ rose from the dead…" —Zach ([25:05])

• Modern archaeological findings support the biblical accounts of burial practices ([28:08]).
• Jason shares his experience visiting a tomb in Israel and reflects on the impact of physically exiting the tomb as a moment of affirmation in faith ([29:21]).

  “I like the preacher analogy—the stone was rolled away to let us in, not let him out.” —Jason ([30:14])

5. Jase’s Creepy Encounter Alone in the Woods ([31:09]–[34:25])

• While treasure hunting alone, Jase is surprised by a stranger in the woods, sparking a candid conversation about faith.
• Jase quizzes the man ("Are you following Jesus?"), leading the man to admit he’s “on the fence”, prompting a deeper conversation about seeking God ([32:29]).

  “You’re either all-in or all-out. ... Go get you a Bible and read the book of John and look at who Jesus is and then go all in.” —Jase ([33:40])

6. Where Do Our Souls Go When We Die? ([35:00]–[57:57])

• The core question: What happens to us—soul and body—between death and resurrection?
• The hosts break down the biblical view of human nature:
  • Humans are both body ("dust of the earth") and the breath/spirit of God ([45:57]).
  • Zach references Dallas Willard: spirit as executive center/will; soul as the integration point—the wholeness of one's being ([49:38]).
• Science and faith: Jason cites the law of thermodynamics to confirm that matter is not destroyed but transformed, paralleling the scriptural idea of death and future resurrection ([40:26]).
• Cremation, burial, and the New Orleans cemetery practices are discussed light-heartedly, concluding that regardless of the process, all end as “dust.”

  “Eventually everybody’s cremated. It may take some time, but you’re all going to wind up there ... To the point of should ... can we be ... is it wrong to be...” —Jase ([53:01])

• The resurrection hope:

  “Whatever happens after we die right here ... it’s not the final thing.” —Zach ([57:16])

• Foundation in Genesis: God’s intent was for humans to unite spirit and body in ruling creation; death is treated as an invader, not God's original plan ([44:18], [54:18]).
• Jesus’ resurrection “resets” humanity’s fate, offering hope for a restored, eternal body ([56:52]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On legacy and brotherhood:
  “The last time we probably all four were ducking together would at least be a couple of decades ago.” —Jase ([05:55])
• On prophecy and cosmic plan:
  “The Bible’s a story of how God gets his family back.” —Zach ([19:35])
• On apologetics:
  “People could go back to it and say, look, the grave’s empty. ... the actual grave itself was never memorialized, because that wasn’t the point.” —Zach ([25:05])
• On the resurrection and faith:
  “I like the preacher analogy—the stone was rolled away to let us in, not let him out.” —Jason ([30:14])
• On death and the afterlife:
  “To be a human, like, we're not just a spirit, we are spirits with a body. ... The distinctive role of our humanity ... is the connecting place of heaven and earth.” —Zach ([49:38])

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Highlight | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:14 | Brothers discuss their upcoming reunion hunt to honor their father’s legacy | | 09:45 | Zach shares band/parenting updates; revisits adoption story of his daughter Ruth | | 17:17 | Introduction to spiritual themes—Jesus’ crucifixion, prophecy, and Psalm 22 | | 21:59 | Reading and discussing burial of Jesus; introduction of Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus | | 25:05 | Apologetic significance of Jesus’ known, wealthy tomb | | 29:21 | Jason shares emotional moment in Israel’s “tomb” site; the stone rolled away analogy | | 31:09 | Jase recounts his tense, faith-focused encounter alone in the woods | | 35:00 | Dialogue on what happens at death; science, scripture, and eternity | | 40:26 | Law of thermodynamics and the parallel with biblical anthropology | | 45:57 | Genesis reading: Adam formed from dust and breath; physical and spiritual components of human existence | | 49:38 | Zach explains body, soul, and spirit in biblical terms | | 53:01 | Practical observations on burial, cremation, and what ultimately matters for resurrection | | 56:52 | Concluding remarks: Jesus’ burial and resurrection as a cosmic “reset”; preview of next episode’s deep dive into the afterlife |

Summary

This episode is a quintessential "Unashamed" blend of honest family storytelling, robust scriptural teaching, and playful banter. With the brothers’ reunion for their father’s legacy duck hunt as a backdrop, the conversation moves into weighty territory about the Christian hope of resurrection, the meaning of death, and what truly happens to the soul. Using both personal anecdotes (including a tense solo woods encounter) and deep biblical grounding, the Robertsons encourage listeners to see death in light of the resurrection—the ultimate reset given by Christ for God’s "forever family". The episode ends with a promise to address more on the soul’s journey after death in the next discussion.

For listeners wanting both the warmth of family legacy and answers to profound spiritual questions, this episode delivers both in classic Robertson style.