Unashamed with the Robertson Family – Ep 1230

Miss Kay Retires Her Apron & Jase Confesses a Former Addiction That Got Out of Control
Release Date: December 16, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode centers on faith, family, and the little but meaningful rituals that bind the Robertson family together, especially in the wake of major life changes. The conversation threads through Miss Kay’s transition away from her famous cooking, stories of family meals and food traditions, and a candid confession from Jase about his past addiction to donuts. At the heart of these stories is a deeper biblical discussion: the nature of Jesus’ resurrection and the hope it offers Christians, with a detailed, lively dive into John 20 and the significance of Jesus’ resurrected body.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miss Kay: Transitioning from Family Matriarch & Chef

• Miss Kay’s Health and Well-Being
  • Zach provides an update on Miss Kay, who is coping well with grief and a recent dementia diagnosis, despite missing her late husband (01:12–02:31).
  • She's "turned a corner" and is physically well, enjoying family activities—like having burgers and watching football with Zach.
• Retiring Her Famous Apron
  • Jase shares the family’s attempts to replicate Miss Kay’s iconic chocolate pie, a process fraught with mysterious missing steps and the challenges of unwritten, "just a little of this" Southern recipes (02:31–08:06 & 11:45–12:29).
  • Memorable quote (07:18, Jase):
    “She said, I really just can’t remember. You know, the last time I cooked, I thought, I’m just too old for this... get my cookbook.”
• Cooking as Family Culture
  • Missy tries (and fails) to crack the pie recipe; the family's food critiques are a rite of passage, highlighting both humor and reverence for family traditions (11:45–13:08).
  • Jase reflects, “You people are crazy over this food,” and recalls it took Missy “10 years to get over the criticism after every meal” (10:51–11:45).

2. Robertson Family Food Rituals

• The Depth of Food in Robertson Life
  • Meals are central—whether it’s holiday gatherings, wild game, or classic pies. Food unites and marks time (12:29–14:46).
  • Stories surface about epic family spreads—duck, exotic meats, roast, and more—leaving guests amazed at daily feasting (12:29–14:46).
• Miss Kay’s Honest Food Critiques
  • Hilarious and heartfelt: Miss Kay doesn’t hold back about subpar institutional food (13:19–14:42).
  • Standout quote (14:22, Zach):
    “I told you, I don’t like that. ... It’s just like, no, your food is terrible.”

3. Spiritual Reflections: Resurrection, Reunion, and the New Creation

• Biblical Discussion: John 20 & Luke 24
  • The hosts dive deep into the significance of Jesus’ physical resurrection — the "garden motif," Jesus eating fish, and the implications for the Christian hope of bodily resurrection (15:19–29:57).
  • Jase expresses awe at the details, such as Jesus appearing with a real body and requesting food post-resurrection.
  • Key quote (34:10, Jase):
    “I’m not going to apologize to my animal rights friends, but the King of Kings, one of the first questions asked post-resurrection was, where is the fish?”
• What Is the Resurrected Body Like?
  • The hosts untangle biblical concepts: Not just a “ghost”—the resurrected Jesus could be touched, ate food, and demonstrated a new, "glorified" form. This challenges floating, ethereal stereotypes of the afterlife (23:14–36:31).
  • Zach: “You don’t want to miss that ... a physical body. Spirits don’t eat. Ghosts don’t. ... Jesus acknowledged there are ghosts, but they’re not eating.” (48:18)
• Hope and Family in the New Creation
  • Practical implications: suffering, physical loss, or illness are temporary, with restoration and reunion promised in the resurrection (43:46–45:08).
  • Zach, on the hope of resurrection:
    “As long as he’s on Earth, he’s got to walk around on prosthetics. But ... in the resurrection, all things restored.” (44:31)
• Food, Faith, and Forever Family
  • The act of sharing meals becomes a picture of heaven and reunion (50:21–54:33).
  • Quote (46:05, Missy via Jase):
    “She’s like, I came from a family who ate to survive, but your family survives to eat.”

4. Jase’s Humorous Confession: The Donut Addiction

• A Battle with Sweets
  • Jase candidly describes his former obsession with hot donuts, complete with a detailed “journal” of local fryer schedules (16:49–17:34).
  • Memorable moment (17:10, Zach):
    “You might have a problem if you’re keeping up with this.”
  • Confession is given tongue-in-cheek but illustrates real struggles with self-discipline and appetite, tying back to spiritual themes of mastery and freedom.

5. Practical Theology: Living in the ‘Now Not Yet’

• Living the Resurrected Life Today
  • The team reflects on living in hope and transformation now, not just passively waiting for heaven (52:59–53:34).
  • Quote (53:25, Jason):
    “We live a resurrected life even here while we’re on earth, awaiting the final confirmation of everything being put together.”

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On Miss Kay’s Cooking Legacy
  • Jase: “We’re trying to resurrect that pie ... I need to know, do you cook it for 30 minutes?” (06:19)
  • Miss Kay (reported): “I can’t remember ... get my cookbook.” (07:18)
• Jase’s Donut Journal
  • Jase: “I had the schedule on a notebook for all the places on when the new batches would be ready.” (16:49)
• On Jesus’ Resurrection Body
  • Zach: “A ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see I have. ... the creator of all things just said ghosts are real.” (27:36–27:51)
  • Guest Speaker: “He’s not bound by time and space, but he’s in time and space. That’s the significance of the meal.” (24:23)
• Family, Food, and Eternity
  • Missy (via Jase): “...your family survives to eat.” (46:05)
  • Jason: “...the possibilities are going to be enhanced post-resurrection.” (41:14)
• On the Hope Found in Resurrection
  • Zach: “Doesn’t matter … it’s inevitable. I’m coming back. It doesn’t matter.” (44:18)
• On Living as God’s Children
  • Zach: “There’s an elevation here of the idea of family, and it’s forever family.” (51:07)

Key Bible Passages Discussed

• John 20: Jesus appears to his disciples, emphasizing physical resurrection and new creation.
• Luke 24: Jesus eats broiled fish, refutes the “ghost” explanation, and explains the Scriptures to the disciples.
• 1 Corinthians 15: Analogy of seed and resurrection body—what sown perishable will be raised imperishable.
• Romans 8: The hope of the redeemed body and children of God.

Structural/Timestamped Highlights

• 00:00–01:07: Opening on cultural division and faith foundations (brief sponsor).
• 01:07–02:31: Family and faith updates; Miss Kay’s health.
• 02:31–08:06: The chocolate pie saga and importance of family recipes.
• 10:51–14:46: Food as identity; Miss Kay’s critiques.
• 15:19–29:57: Deep dive into resurrection; Jesus eating post-resurrection.
• 34:10–34:23: Jesus’ first question post-resurrection—asking for fish.
• 40:31–48:18: Resurrection, reunion, physical afterlife.
• 50:21–54:33: Family, feasts, and child-of-God identity.

Tone and Takeaways

• Warm and playful, with plenty of laughs about family quirks and Southern cooking.
• Deeply earnest when turning to grief, hope, and the realities of faith and loss.
• Accessible theology: The hosts explain complex biblical ideas in everyday language, using food, family, and real-life struggles as metaphors and entry points.

For New Listeners

This episode is a blend of humor and raw honesty (about pies and past failures), intimate family moments, and profound discussion of Christian hope—the kind that unites generations, consoles the grieving, and shapes everyday life. You’ll come away with a deeper sense of the Robertsons’ faith, their view of eternity, and—perhaps—the urge to hunt down a really good chocolate pie recipe.

Next episode teaser: Thomas the doubter enters the scene, and the Robertson family continues to explore how ordinary people grasp extraordinary faith.