Ep 1231 | Uncle Si’s Prayer Heals a Man’s Cancer & Raising Kids Who Prefer to Give Than Receive

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Unashamed with the Robertson Family"

Episode 1231 | Uncle Si’s Prayer Heals a Man’s Cancer & Raising Kids Who Prefer to Give Than Receive
Date: December 17, 2025
Featuring: Jase Robertson, Jason Robertson, Missy Robertson

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Episode Overview

This lively episode brings together Jase, Jason, and Missy Robertson for stories about family, faith, and preserving both culinary and spiritual heritage. The conversation weaves through humorous and heartwarming moments from duck hunting and family traditions to deep spiritual insights, particularly the power of prayer and raising generous children. The episode’s main themes include the impact of a simple act of faith (Uncle Si’s prayer for a man with cancer), the importance of passing down traditions, and intentionally teaching children to be givers rather than takers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Stories, Humor, and Tradition

(01:07 – 19:44)

• The episode opens with the Robertsons sharing light-hearted banter about wardrobe mishaps, cold mornings, and the “stained white T-shirt” legacy of Phil Robertson, tying family quirks to deeper lessons about work ethic and authenticity.

  • Notable Quote:
    “I'm sending a message that I work.” – Jase Robertson, relaying Phil’s philosophy about stained shirts (06:33)

• Jason brings up the behind-the-scenes stories of the early Duckman videos, referencing their quirky homemade movie production style, and the cast of characters such as “Hands of Stone” and unique hunting antics.

  • “How could a man have that much spit?” – Jase on the legendary spitting scene (09:00)
  • “You have the vision of a stick of butter.” – Director Gary Stevenson to Jase on duck-hunting film frustrations (17:01)

2. A Story of Prayer and Healing: Uncle Si’s Miraculous Moment

(21:30 – 24:53)

• Jase recounts the remarkable testimony of a man who credits his cancer healing to Uncle Si's prayer, which led the man to come to faith in Jesus. The story emerges incidentally while Jase is on a quest to find an old phone case, turning into an inspiring tale of faith.

  • Notable Quote:
    “Uncle Si prayed for him... there was no explanation. I go, whatever happened, the doctors were baffled... he’s like, giving my life to Jesus. There’s something that happened here.” – Jase Robertson (22:30)

• The discussion ties in the biblical principle from James:

  • “The prayer of a righteous man is, you know, is powerful.” – Jason Robertson (23:53)

3. Preserving Family Recipes & the Importance of Heritage

(27:13 – 40:11)

• Missy dives deep into her quest to master Miss Kay’s legendary chocolate pies, sharing her trials, flops, and small victories. The conversation becomes a metaphor for passing down generational traditions and the determination required.

  • “It’s hours and hours and hours of my life, and I still haven’t got it right.” – Missy (36:09)
  • "I'm determined. I'll figure it out." – Missy (33:29)

• This segment highlights the complications of inherited cookbooks, the importance of mentorship in both baking and life, and the shared joy of trying (and failing) together.

  • “Passing so many things down from our families is very important to our children.” – Missy (38:09)

4. Teaching Kids Generosity: Giving Over Receiving

(40:11 – 51:35)

• Missy and Jase share practical stories about instilling generosity in their children and grandchildren, notably the efforts to help their three-year-old grandson, “Little Man,” focus on giving gifts at Christmas.

  • “If you don’t teach them to be givers, they will be takers. And it doesn't just happen automatically.” – Missy (51:35)

• Missy recounts a formative story about starting the tradition of donating a “movie basket” to families in need, inspired by a classmate’s loss. This became an annual family practice, building empathy and gratitude over the years.

  • “[Our son] Reed said, ‘Who are we giving a movie basket to this year, Mom?’... He saw how they reacted to the act of giving and bringing joy.” – Missy (47:29)

• The Robertsons reflect on how even with limited means, they intentionally chose giving, tying it back to Jesus’ message.

  • “If you're not going to share a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when you’re poor, you're not going to share a steak when you're rich. And it’s the mindset.” – Missy (51:35)

5. Faith Legacy: Giving Jesus Is The Greatest Gift

(53:26 – 57:24)

• In a moving close, Jase reflects on the long-term impact of sharing Jesus, recalling his first attempt with his high school best friend—a journey that bore fruit decades later.

  • “The best thing you can do is actually give Jesus to someone.” – Jase (54:31)
  • “It just makes the kingdom of God so much sweeter.” – Missy (56:50)

• The hosts reference Revelation 12:11 and emphasize the lasting power of testimony and perseverance through hard seasons, thanking God for all the stories of transformation connected to their ministry.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “How's it with stains?” – Quoting Clint Eastwood, the symbol for Phil’s preference for work-worn shirts. (05:15)
• “You have the vision of a stick of butter.” – Gary Stevenson to Jase. (17:01)
• “Uncle Si prayed for him... there was no explanation... giving my life to Jesus. There’s something that happened here.” – Jase on the healing story. (22:30)
• “If you don’t teach them to be givers, they will be takers. And it doesn't just happen automatically.” – Missy. (51:35)
• “The best thing you can do is actually give Jesus to someone.” – Jase. (54:31)
• “All of those times… we never realized the impact… It just makes the kingdom of God so much sweeter.” – Missy. (56:50)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Family & Duckman Stories: 01:07 – 17:36
• Praying for Healing—Uncle Si’s Testimony: 21:30 – 24:53
• Cooking & Passing Down Traditions: 27:13 – 40:11
• Raising Generous Kids: 40:11 – 51:35
• Faith Legacy & Closing Reflections: 53:26 – 57:24

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Takeaways

• The episode artfully blends down-home humor with deep faith and practical advice for raising the next generation.
• The story of Uncle Si’s prayer, Missy’s culinary quest, and the annual “movie basket” tradition all illustrate that faith in action is key.
• Giving—of food, love, or the gospel—carries far-reaching, sometimes invisible consequences.
• Passing down traditions, whether recipes or values, is a tangible way to honor family, faith, and God’s work.

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Tone: Honest, affectionate, occasionally self-deprecating, and always faith-forward—reflecting the Robertson family’s signature blend of humor and conviction.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect equal parts laughter and inspiration, with practical faith advice and plenty of stories to warm both your heart and your kitchen.

Transcript

[Missy Robertson]

Kids, they grow up so fast. One day they're taking their first steps, and the next they don't fit into the tiny sneakers they took them in. You blink your eyes and their princess dress is two sizes too small. And their dinosaur backpack isn't cool anymore. But don't cry because they're growing up. Smile because you can profit off of it. For real. There are a bunch of parents on depop looking for the stuff your kid just grew out of. Download depop to start selling. So good, so good, so good.

[Jason Robertson]

Score.

[Jase Robertson]

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[Missy Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

Cause there's always something new. I'm giving all the gifts this year.

[Missy Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

I am unashamed. What about you?

[Jason Robertson]

Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast where it has been Lemony Snicket Series of Unfortunate Events this morning, Jase, but Missy has ridden in to save the day. Welcome, Missy. No pressure, no pressure. Zach called in sick, which I'm not. Are you shocked, Jace, that.

[Jase Robertson]

No. I saw the signs of it on the last podcast that he started displaying zombie tendency. I think he was getting sick during the podcast because it's like I wanted to say, but I didn't want to embarrass him in public. I'm just kidding. But I wanted to say, reach down, Zach, and check your pulse.

[Missy Robertson]

I think it's because he heard I was coming on.

[Jason Robertson]

No, I think he's afraid of you. Like Jace. Like Jay says, I'm not afraid of you. But Jase, he gets all nervous and skittish today, comes in, he had a complete wardrobe change right off the bat.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, usually I'm just gonna say it's 60 degrees in here, thus the fire. For you that are listening, we have.

[Missy Robertson]

A starting to sweat.

[Jase Robertson]

Nice warm fire today. I come in, which it's really cold outside and it's about 75 to 80 in here. And so I had a. Luckily there was some sponsor shirts laid. I had to have a wardrobe change.

[Missy Robertson]

I like art, actually.

[Jase Robertson]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Jason Robertson]

But then it's truly a classic.

[Missy Robertson]

True classic.

[Jase Robertson]

So miss and I, we've been trending well this fall and winter season. And you know what I attribute that to?

[Missy Robertson]

Wait, I don't even understand what that means.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, we've just been I don't know. We just been having enjoyable times at the house.

[Jason Robertson]

And that surprise, that surprised me, because the lead up to us doing this podcast, we have had some issues this morning. It seems like you're just right on the verge of breaking out into something is what I'm saying.

[Jase Robertson]

Then we sit down and she informs me that she got. She bought us a Christmas present.

[Missy Robertson]

I did not buy. I was going to buy it. I asked how to order, and they said, I'm just. We're just going to send it to you for free.

[Jase Robertson]

What kind of feeling came over you when you're having that conversation?

[Missy Robertson]

Well, they're the same people that gave us our Omaha Dynasty hats, the patched people. I just said, oh, I want to order, like, a. Like, for our stockings, because we don't ever have anything in our stockings. So I thought, I'll order you a jrock and me a Lulu baseball cap. That'll be fun for the grandkids. And I went to order, and they said, let us just send them to you for free. So they asked what color you wanted. It's like we're not having these conversations at home. I don't. I don't. I was just gonna do it. But now that we're sitting here face to face, we start talking about stuff.

[Jason Robertson]

See, subconsciously, the reason and the fall of love is heading toward the winter of discontent.

[Jase Robertson]

Because my first response was when you showed me that, which I'm already. It makes me nervous when we start doing things that are matching.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah, I know. That's another reason why I wasn't gonna tell you.

[Jase Robertson]

The yuppie world. You know that time when you got everybody matching pajamas? And I'm like, do we have to wear all this at the same time? I mean, this is embarrassing for me. I wasn't raised this way, and there's something cheesy about it. But then I looked at the hat, and you're in. It's. The top of it is white, which I said it was not white. You said it was off white. I didn't know this was a thing. I just learned that phrase.

[Missy Robertson]

Cream.

[Jase Robertson]

No, off white. It looked white to me because I thought, I have a problem with stains. That's why I wear usually dark colors.

[Missy Robertson]

That is inherited. The stain probably is inherited.

[Jason Robertson]

To Robertson men, there's white and then there's dirty. There's nothing else. There's no in between.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah, your dad's T shirts are an example of that.

[Jase Robertson]

My dad wore the same T shirt white T shirts for decades. And look, they became off white and multicolored. And he still wore them.

[Missy Robertson]

And they were clean. Like they came out of the washer and the dryer looking like that.

[Jason Robertson]

That's right.

[Jase Robertson]

It all came from a moment in the Outlaw Josie Wales when Clint Eastwood said he was. There was a guy trying to sell him some elixir for 10 cents and it would cure all ailments. I'm sure you've forgotten this scene.

[Missy Robertson]

I've never seen it because I can't watch it without you saying every single line with the actor. So I've never been able to watch it because I can't handle it.

[Jase Robertson]

So Glenn Eastwood, you're wondering what he's going to say because here he is running for. For his life and here's a guy trying to sell him a bottle of elixir. And so Eastwood, he, he chewed tobacco and he spit on this shiny white suit of the elixir salesman and he said, how's it with stains? And my dad was so enamored by that that he embraced these stained wearing clothing industry.

[Missy Robertson]

That was part of his who's a man? Montage of life. Yeah, who's the man?

[Jase Robertson]

Asked him out one time. I said, phil, have you ever thought about buying you some new white shirts since now you have a little money because all your shirts. I just want to. Let me just state the obvious. They're really stained.

[Missy Robertson]

Disgusting.

[Jase Robertson]

And he said, I'm sending a message that I work.

[Missy Robertson]

Yep, he's a man.

[Jase Robertson]

He's a man. These stains he thought were a symbolic image of work ethic, which I don't disagree.

[Missy Robertson]

It actually was. Yes.

[Jason Robertson]

I didn't think, I never thought about that. You're right. I think about that scene motivating dad to, to wear the sustained stuff.

[Jase Robertson]

Look, hard times, man.

[Jason Robertson]

We're trying to help you understand a little bit about why we are. And especially in your case because it's your husb. So this man, this should explode.

[Jase Robertson]

You gotta remember my dad. Now all of a sudden we're going back into dad stories.

[Missy Robertson]

I know there's a picture of him right behind you, so I couldn't look at him while you're talking about it.

[Jason Robertson]

But I got a question for Missy. Before we do what, Jace? Whatever you want to do on the, on the Bible study side. But, but before we do that, Jace, you know, has been talking about having a walk up song, Don't Back down, which is the Tom Petty song which we love because it kind of goes with our kind of unashamed life. And I think it fits you, Missy. I mean you have preached residents. You have. You have been in situations in libraries where there were. There were protesters. You, You. You are a not back down sort of person. And. And I say that truthfully, and I respect that about you. And we have some friends in D.C. that are. Don't back down people. They're called Family Research Council. So old friend Tony Perkins, who's been around for many, many years, always been a big supporter of us and dad and all the books we wrote, they're on the front line. Faith, family, and freedom. They meet with lawmakers, they help shape policy, and they keep God's truth in the conversation, in the national conversation. So we love that. We love the victories they have, and we don't want you to sit it out. We want you to act.

[Jase Robertson]

Now.

[Jason Robertson]

Check these guys out. Visit FRC.org unashamed to help keep faith alive in America.

[Jase Robertson]

Actually, I went on a duck hunt in Kansas recently. You remember that, where I was gone a couple days. And Barrett, Barrett, my good friend from Kansas, he brought up. I got a question, because we were kind of being nostalgic about my dad and all that, and he's like, where did they come up? Because in our Duckman videos, there was a spitting scene. The whole scene.

[Missy Robertson]

Yes, I remember that.

[Jase Robertson]

So we talked about that, and it kind of led us to, like, why did they come up with that? Because Burley kind of was the star of the spinning scene. Because it was like, how could a man have that much spit? And I said, well, what happened was he actually wasn't chewing tobacco. Barely never chewed tobacco. He ate a cigar. If you watch it real close instead of smoking a cigar, because he used to go around with just a cigar in his mouth that was. Wasn't lit. He just chewed on it. Well, I think it was his. This is what I do.

[Missy Robertson]

You realize that is actually chewing tobacco.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, he wasn't chewing it. He just had it in his mouth.

[Missy Robertson]

And he ate it.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, he actually ate it for the spitting scene, then drank some coffee.

[Jason Robertson]

Coffee with it.

[Jase Robertson]

So it was coffee and chewed cigar. And when he just saved one. One spit scene.

[Missy Robertson]

Yes. The slow mo.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. Why did they do that? And they were trying to kind of depict that when you're in a duck blind and nothing's happened, you get bored. But I said, they also did things in those videos that were so strange. They had. There was a guy who met at their church, and you remember him who had, like, Indian blood in him. And the only reason Phil knew this, because he did. He didn't look like a native American. But my dad joked at him about he needed to grow a beard. And he said, well, Phil, you know, I'm Native American and I can't grow facial hair. So the next thing you know, my dad said, well, I want you to dress up like a Native American and be on our videos. And so about four scenes and all those videos. If you'll run back and look at all those videos, there is a full garb, Native American sitting in the background. He's never, he never says a word. And he's actually in the credits as Hands of Stone.

[Jason Robertson]

Hands of Stone.

[Missy Robertson]

I don't remember.

[Jase Robertson]

That is true. Nobody remembers that because Barrett's seen all the videos. And he said, I don't remember that. I'm fixed to go watch every one of them. And I was like, oh, he's in there. But it's real subtle. And I thought, what? My dad just had that tendency of wanting to do that.

[Jason Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

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[Jason Robertson]

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[Missy Robertson]

They did a really good job.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I think what, how I try to describe this to people because he was revolutionary in presenting outdoor films. But they're, they were like reality kind of comedy. But I'm like Look, I know it turned out great, but in my dad's mind, he was trying to make a movie. Yeah, it was a terrible movie, but it was a great outfit. It turned out genius Music and slow motion and the spitting scene. You know, they were. They were serious. I mean, they knew that would be funny, but they're like, this is what we do. So I think it's.

[Jason Robertson]

But you got to think about it, too. Just on the. I mean, we. We have a fleet of production people there. There were people to get this podcast rolling this morning. There were phone calls. There were people being called in. I mean, it just us to do this podcast. All the. Those early videos was one guy who was a teacher and kind of a science nerd who. Who, like, who just dabbled with cameras, who was then working full time at State Farm while he was producing all these videos. And, you know, he would just, like. He learned it on the fly and, you know, got a couple of friends to help him and, I mean, and really made some incredible stuff. I mean, when you think about it. But like Jay said at the time, it didn't seem like it because it just seemed monotonous. And, you know, I don't know. He was always. Jason Stevenson used to clash. You remember that time, J. You were grumping about something. Jace has the vision of a stick of margarine.

[Missy Robertson]

Stick of butter stick.

[Jase Robertson]

A butter stick of butter. No, back then, I was a little immature. And Gary was not a. He was not a film guy. He sold insurance.

[Missy Robertson]

No one was.

[Jase Robertson]

No, I know. But when he. When my dad, he was like, you sell insurance, but you're a studious gentleman. I think you'd make an excellent cameraman. This is the conversation they had at church. And Gary's like, okay, so then he goes out there and morphs into Martin Scorsese, where every time something. Ducks are unpredictable. He's filming. And he would always hold his hands up, and he would say, you got to remember, I'm trying to get the ducks in a screen this wide. And I was like, we can't. We can't guarantee that. You need to film what happens. And he didn't want us to shoot the ducks unless they were in this.

[Jason Robertson]

Box in the frame.

[Jase Robertson]

So we're hunting one day. He's across from us about 80 yards, which is. He actually took a couple of pellets at that distance in one hunt, which he was not happy about. I did not do it. But anyway, we.

[Jason Robertson]

That is a hazard. It is a hazard for camera people.

[Jase Robertson]

We had some ducks come in and we just rained them out. But they were not in his square. So he just. A voice comes out, he says, you got to remember, we're making TV here. Do not shoot the ducks unless they're in the square. Well, for a bunch of duck hunters who are high fiving after, we just got a bunch of ducks in. And I really could care less that we didn't get them on camera. We were excited in that moment. And I'm like, boy, you talking about a morale killer. This guy firing off, saying, don't, don't do what you just did. Because they weren't in the camera. And I knew the camera. I mean, I knew the blind was bugged. He's listening to us. So it wasn't like I was doing this thinking, oh, he caught me. So I said, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I said, the next time a bunch of ducks come comes in, I'm going to fire three times into his station over there and perk him up. I was kidding. And he said. He called me Jason.

[Missy Robertson]

Most people did then at that time.

[Jase Robertson]

And he said, you have the vision of a stick of butter. That made it.

[Jason Robertson]

Oh, my. And we never went that. That was the whole. The whole rest of the duck season. That was the. It was said over and over and over again. Of course, then it embarrassed Gary for. For saying it because they. They were kind of just mad at each other. But, you know, you can imagine Missy with a bunch of all of us at Robertson's. It just. The stick of butter never got all right.

[Jase Robertson]

And confession. It was a bad joke. I shouldn't have made that joke.

[Missy Robertson]

I have a follow up on that, because maybe he didn't. Nobody ever let you live that down. But something else that Mr. Stevenson also told you was that he thought that you possibly could be an angel in disguise. Do you remember that?

[Jase Robertson]

Vaguely, yes.

[Missy Robertson]

Because he saw the character that you had.

[Jason Robertson]

And dad said the same thing about him.

[Missy Robertson]

And he said that. He said, I think you're the closest thing to being an actual angel.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. Which was embarrassing.

[Missy Robertson]

And I quickly said, man to man. He said that.

[Jase Robertson]

I quickly said, no. Well, I think it's because I was real big on not being quiet about my virgin status. And that's unusual for a teenage guy to be going around, like, publicly saying.

[Missy Robertson]

It'S more than that. Was your character overall. So when you think of stick of butter, also think of angel, because he also came back and gave you a very large compliment as well.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, this is getting weird, but.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, otherwise, I don't know why I'm here talking about duck hunting stories. I have nothing to contribute.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I was gonna bring up.

[Missy Robertson]

It's all great and good, but I.

[Jase Robertson]

Was going to bring up in that vein. I was. There's two points I wanted to bring up. So, one, you brought up the hats. Just giving you that. And so I wanted to bring up, I have a new a phone case, and there's a story behind this. I'm looking for who makes this. Oh, good, because I want to give them a shameless plug. So, look, I went to every outlet that sells a phone cover in our city, including the actual phone provider. And because my phone is so old, they don't have any for sale. I just could not believe it. There's walls of phone covers. Because I told y' all the story in the podcast. When I baptized my phone in the first flip, the phone miraculously kept working. Yeah, kept working. But the case that was supposed to be a case for life, that's what they sold it.

[Missy Robertson]

Life proof.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, it was life proof. Anything that happens in life, we will guarantee this. A couple years later, it falls in the swamp for 20 minutes, and it literally just started deconstructing before my eyes. So I said, well, I need me a phone case. The main reason is because when you don't have a phone case, it's so slippery in your hands. I continued to drop it, but you need one, babe. I tried to give you one. So I wanted to tell this story. So we're headed to Kansas, and I'm telling them all my buddies. I'm like, I cannot believe that in our world that the phone has become a part of people's body. It's like a part of the family. They're not going home without it. They're obsessed with the phone, but they don't sell cases for older phones. You can't find one.

[Missy Robertson]

They want you to buy the new phone.

[Jase Robertson]

And, well, you. You convinced. I couldn't figure it out. But you had the. None of my buddies could figure it out either. But you actually. It's. It's all a marketing ploy, so. So, Jay, after 30 minutes of this. Yeah, because I went on and on about it, and he's like, well, I can get you a new phone case. And I was like, well, how? And he's like, well, there's a guy who sells phone case cases. He has a company, and he claims the only reason he's still here on the earth is because Uncle Si healed him. I said. I was like, what does that mean? Why has it taken. Why did it take you 30 minutes to bring. He's like, well, let me call him.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, wait, hold, hold on, back up. We're just going to jump over this part of psy Heel to someone.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. So here's, that's what I said. I said, well, how did that happen? So they're at a, at some kind of event and Uncle Si is there a guy comes up and he's just been diagnosed with cancer. And he's like, uncle Si, I know your family are people of faith and you know, I'm not. I forgot all the details about his, where he was at with his faith journey. But he said, I'd like for you to pray for me. And so Uncle Si prayed for him. And of course I get to hear this story in real life from this guy's lips. Like once we call him, because we call Jay, has him in his phone, but. And he's like, there was no explanation. I go, you know, whatever happened, the doctors were baffled and they're like, we think you're good. And so he's like, giving my life to Jesus. There's something that happened here. Now look, I'm just telling you what happened.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, well, so, so the Lord healed him.

[Jase Robertson]

The Lord healed him. But I'm telling you what Jay said. Which is what? At the end of this, I was like, j, you need to work on how you present that story. Because actually there was a prayer and the Lord obviously healed the guy and he, he believes this and he took that as a sign that he needed to get his life right.

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[Jason Robertson]

Jase, There is a verse in James that says the prayer of a righteous man is, you know, is powerful.

[Jase Robertson]

So.

[Jason Robertson]

That effective?

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, well, exactly. And that's where I was kind of wanting to go in the Bible study today once we get there. But, but, but anyway, so Jay calls him up, he has him on speaker, and we have a conversation. He's like, oh, I'm like, now I'll pay for them. He's like, because do you have whatever my year my phone is? He's like, oh, yeah, I have them. And he said, I'm not just going to send you one, I'll send you four to choose from. And he said they're camo because the name of their phone cover company is called Camo Skins, so. And he would not take a penny for it. He was like, what are you. What are you talking about? I was healed from your uncle praying and I was like, hey, okay, great. I mean, I can't believe we haven't met before. So I picked this little design for.

[Jason Robertson]

The phone, you know, you know, would go good with it. Jay's. A cream colored hat.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah. With black writing.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. That's funny. So thanks, Al. So I just thought that was a neat story, though, about. I couldn't find a phone case. And all of a sudden Jay's like, got a guy on the Rolodex that for some. A prayer and he feels indebted. And I'm like, the fact you still have his number. They hadn't talked in years, but he had his number. So we might take him duck hunt. But I was giving him a shameless promotion just because I thought that happened. And he. He said, here's the bill. He sent me four cases. And it was like, I'd like to go duck hunting.

[Missy Robertson]

So I thought, real expensive.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. But anyway, so I thought I'd give him a shameless plug in case the duck doesn't work out, but.

[Jason Robertson]

So, Jase, I know you and Missy got some events coming up in the next couple of months. You want to tell us? Tell the folks about it?

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. Which is another sign that I've gotten over my nervousness about us doing events and podcasts together. So we actually tested the waters this past year, and I think it went well.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah, I guess we're doing well because other people are asking us to come. So.

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[Jase Robertson]

And look, it's. So in February, you know, there's a big special day in February called Valentine today.

[Missy Robertson]

Yes.

[Jase Robertson]

And so there are groups of people that think it's a good idea for Missy and I to come and spread a little love in the air.

[Missy Robertson]

We're going to host a date night.

[Jase Robertson]

We're hosting date night. So February 14th at the White river conference center next to Bass pro shops. We are going to be in Springfield, Missouri. So if you're interested in coming, you can go to team CTO.org and find out everything you want to know. And then the next weekend on February 20th, and this is 2026, obviously, we're going to be in Sanford, North Carolina, February 21st. Well, we're actually going to be there the 20th and the 21st. I'm speaking to the men, you're speaking to the ladies. And then we're going to talk about loving God and loving others. So.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah. And that's at the Dennis Wicker civic center. So you can go to HSB C B W A Y N c dot org.

[Jason Robertson]

So, Missy, I was going to ask you about the chocolate pies.

[Missy Robertson]

Oh, yeah, Jace.

[Jason Robertson]

Because, you know, and again, I. You're not backing down. You have decided to take some of mom's great recipes and keep them going because mom is. Is not much of a cook anymore. She just has forgotten a lot of it and just really doesn't want to do it. So we've got to some.

[Missy Robertson]

Some encouraging in this area. So keep. Keep going, Al. Keep going.

[Jason Robertson]

First of all, why did you.

[Jase Robertson]

I think you should just answer what? Because I'm married to you, and I'm not sure what the real answer is, but for some reason, you decided to make this a priority, and so tell us why.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, years ago, I think you asked me, Jay. So you asked me, like, why don't you make. Learn to make moms first. It was the coconut. You wanted me to make her coconut pie. I don't like coconut.

[Jase Robertson]

Which is why we haven't. Why you haven't tried that.

[Missy Robertson]

Okay, but I'm gonna master. But she told me that the coconut and the chocolate pie are the exact same thing. It's just an one. One ingredient's different. So I was like, well, I'll master the one I like first, then I'll do the coconut. But years ago, you asked me, why don't I do that? And I said, why would I do that? To myself. Why would I make what some of your mom's best recipes while she's still alive and kicking? Because it will never be good enough. So I think I waited a little too late on this. So she taught me how to make the pie crust, which is. Which I do have down, which is very important. Really, really good.

[Jason Robertson]

Which that also goes with the crawfish pie, which is. Yours is fantastic.

[Missy Robertson]

A couple of years ago, we mastered that, and it is really good. I did cook that the other. And, you know, I think it was when your dad. When your dad was going through all the stuff that he was, you know, physically and mentally. I learned that when he saw me come in with something in my hands, it like he. He liked it. He would. He knew who we were.

[Jase Robertson]

He loved it.

[Missy Robertson]

He came towards us. He would try to find a place to sit down. He was ready to eat whatever it was I had. He wouldn't even know until we told him or showed him. And so that was encouragement enough for learning how to do some of their favorite recipes. And besides, they're really good. I mean, they're really enjoyable to eat.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Missy Robertson]

So I want to. I want to learn it. So. Okay. So I got did the crawfish pie. So I told Jace this year, I said, I think my goal is to master one recipe a year that your parents have done. I don't think that's too hard. Right. One recipe a year. So I said, this year was going to be the chocolate pie because it is my absolute favorite. No chocolate pie compares. I've eaten chocolate pies my whole life. You know, love to go to the Piccadilly or whatever and get that slice of chocolate pie with whipped cream. Oh, no, that's nothing. Now I will not eat a chocolate pie. So I'm like, I got to get this done. So it's just I haven't mastered it yet. I took some to a family member a couple of days ago that's going through some things, and I said, look, it's really, really good. You're just going to need a spoon.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, well, baby, no, I left a cliffhanger on this. Look, I have two pictures that I want to put before, because when she cooked it the first time was a bomb.

[Missy Robertson]

Because the problem is the cookbook in so many of the recipes in Ms. Kay's cookbook, they're not accurate. I'm just going to say it.

[Jase Robertson]

They're not accurate because they don't have a tangible recipe. So now you have a middleman getting the recipe and putting it on there.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, they had it. They just changed it. Even my. The chili recipe in there that I got directly from Granny's mouth, they changed it. I don't know why. You know, I was really not happy about it. Editors changed it. It's not right. So if you look Up. You know, granny's chili in Ms. Kay's cookbook. It's not correct, but I want to say this.

[Jase Robertson]

I think we figured out the problem in the cookbook has nothing to do with the ingredients. No, I think we did, because I. Look, so she cooked it the first time she. Actually, because you're making a pie crust, you have the filling, and then you have the meringue. Well, you make all those things separately, then you put it together, and then the first time she did it, she cooked that. Well, not the meringue, for 28 minutes.

[Missy Robertson]

No, no, no. Well, let me just back up. Last year, I asked your mom, because I tried this last year, and I asked your mom, I said, there's nothing in here that says that you cook a pie. You cook the sweet potato pies for 45, 50 minutes. Right. So the crust is not cooked, so it has to cook. And she said, what does the cookbook say? And I read the whole thing. And she was like, yeah, that's not right. She said, you have to cook the pie. Cook the pie. I said, okay, I cooked the pie last year, and then I did the meringue, but I didn't do the meringue well. And so I think I thought, well, maybe the meringue is the problem this year. I did the meringue really well.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Missy Robertson]

When I cooked all of that before the meringue, it. It turned into this, like. Like gooey thick.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. No good.

[Missy Robertson]

Not good. It's not good.

[Jase Robertson]

I actually ate a piece and thought.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, actually, I took an entire piece. I made. I made the mistake of doing two because the recipe calls for two. So I, like, ruined two pies, which was really a lot of work, but I took one to my parents, and they think it's delicious. So I don't know. There you go.

[Jason Robertson]

Well, Missy. Jason, I talked about this on a previous podcast, and briefly, but we were trying to remember because obviously I wasn't paying attention. But I saw her do it so many times. It's in my mind. And so I. I remember her having pie crust. Maybe they weren't all the way done, but they were at some form of being done. She would do the chocolate stuff on the stovetop separate.

[Missy Robertson]

Yes.

[Jason Robertson]

And it would be thick enough. She would pour it in. But then she cooked that again, and then the meringue went long last, and she was just broiling.

[Missy Robertson]

There's nothing. There's nothing in the cookbook that says to. To put that pie in the oven.

[Jase Robertson]

But I think there's the minutes, because when She, I think she just cooked the first one too long.

[Jason Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

So we got to figure out.

[Missy Robertson]

But then you overcook the pie crust then either.

[Jason Robertson]

I know it's tricky. We'll figure it out.

[Jase Robertson]

But here's what I wanted to say.

[Missy Robertson]

I'm determined. I'll figure it out.

[Jase Robertson]

She cooked it, this new one that she cooked and it looks fantastic out of the oven. So I took a picture of.

[Missy Robertson]

It's beautiful.

[Jase Robertson]

And then when we cut it open, I thought, oh, darn. It was like popping a balloon and just going. So I took a. I took a picture of when we were down to the last piece last night. This is, this is good comedy. Go. However, when you see this picture, it was so good that I thought, babe, it's okay. And she's like, isn't this so pitiful? Look at this. I'm like, it doesn't matter. You have the ingredients perfect. All she has to do is to make it look good and have the consistency of it because it tastes.

[Missy Robertson]

It is fantastic.

[Jase Robertson]

Exactly. Which is where the one she cooked too long, it lost something in cooking that long. But this here, how it was absolutely perfect in taste, but it was like a 4 in texture because it's a chocolate soup.

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[Missy Robertson]

Well, so here. So here's the deal I've learned because it's a lot of time. It's hours and hours and hours of my life, and I still haven't got it right. So Bonnie, my aunt, our assistant, is texting me business stuff all morning while I'm trying to do this. My hands are dirty. I'm trying to get all this done. And so I said, sorry, this is what I've been doing. And I took a picture of this beautiful pie and sent it to her. I said, this is what I've been doing. And she said, ooh, can't wait to try Pete. And immediately I thought, do I love you that much? I don't know. It was just such a flippant comment. I've been working for hours and hours trying to get this right. And she's like, ooh, can't wait to try it. Like, I don't know. You're gonna have to earn that once I get this right.

[Jase Robertson]

It's really good, you know, I mean, look, babe, it's elite as far as delicacy of what. What our parents created. And I'm not even a chocolate. I've made that known. I've never been a big chocolate fan about anything, but I have to eat it because it's one of the greatest things I've ever eaten.

[Missy Robertson]

I'm going to do it. Well, my friend Tara, who is probably the number one listener besides Brighton, of Unashamed, I was texting her because she knows a lot of your parents recipes from years ago. She's always been trying to do them right. And she's from south Louisiana. She's innate good cook. Told me the night before that, I went in again. She said, you need to keep going. This is important. And no one else in your family is doing this.

[Jason Robertson]

And I will give you one other.

[Missy Robertson]

And I thought, ooh, okay, you're. You're right. I'm gonna do this for the Robertson heritage. I'm gonna try.

[Jason Robertson]

We love. I love the effort of that. Phyllis learned how to do mayhaw jelly for the same reason. Because we knew somebody had to know how to do these things, you know, for the future. And I don't know that always do it like they did it, you know, like as consistency as they used to.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, I've already dumped the double boiler, so I'm not doing that. That's way too difficult. We have way too much better pots and pans these days. We don't have to do that. But. So some things are going to be a little bit different. But I. I do believe that passing this down, passing so many things now, not just recipes, but passing so many things down from our families is very important to our children because, you know, let's.

[Jason Robertson]

Let's face it, a lot of what mom learned, she learned from Granny, which was, you know, dad's mom. So those were passed down to her. And so it's only right that we should do the same thing. And. And I think our kids too, you know, and then. And then beyond us again. It kind of keeps that going. I will give you one other resource. The. The second best chocolate pie I've eaten to moms and is. Is Grace Burks. And so she. She might be a resource to ask her at least how she does it, because there may be a similar thing, but her. Her chocolate pie is as close to Mom's as anybody else's. I' it's one. It's so good. But nobody's is really in the neighborhood of stuff. I've tried.

[Missy Robertson]

In fact, I even because so many of our. So many of our life is online, I actually googled Ms. K's chocolate pie recipe just to see if somebody had it on there. And do you know that most of those online say that cocoa powder that she uses cocoa powder? She does not. It's those baker's chocolate squares. And so. And it has to be the unsweetened kind. It's very.

[Jason Robertson]

I think she went through a phase where she did use cocoa powder. Maybe it was before they came out with those squares, because I remember those cans being in her kitchen when she made it. And when dad would make hot chocolate. Jazz, you remember the hot chocolate? Oh, yeah. He would make it on the stove and with. With the evaporated milk and that. That cocoa that, you know, and then he would use, I think milk.

[Missy Robertson]

Those chocolate squares are very rich.

[Jason Robertson]

Yeah.

[Missy Robertson]

So. And she told me that she went.

[Jason Robertson]

To that she shifted to that.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jason Robertson]

Somewhere along the line. You're right.

[Missy Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jason Robertson]

All right, Jazz.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, that was the chocolate pie update that went longer, but.

[Missy Robertson]

But still working on it.

[Jase Robertson]

I will say this. You're really good. Have always been really good in our family about trying to pass down traditions that are godly. And I thought you could comment on that because it's like, even with our kids and Little man today, you were really big about this. It's better to give than receive. But as long as you're teaching, like with Little Man, I mean, he's only, you know, three years old and you're. Because in their view, I mean, I know he's. He's excited about Christmas time.

[Missy Robertson]

He is so excited about Christmas time.

[Jase Robertson]

And look, I think the reason you've been so happy the last couple months is because you now have an elf. Cause, oh, they're just following each other around, decorating and just out. The transformation of our house is unhealthy.

[Missy Robertson]

I've done it little by little because he wants to help me, you know, so he's so excited about it. Our tree, it's not the prettiest tree, but it's. Cause I let. All our decorations are about 2ft off the ground just. Cause that's where he put them all. So I'll have to redo that at some point when Francis comes this week. But it's so funny.

[Jase Robertson]

They've been doing this for days and the only thing I've contributed to is fixing the star and making it straight. But I wanted everyone to stop, spin that plate, babe. And pause and say, okay, I've contributed to the Christmas decor.

[Missy Robertson]

Spin that plate. No. Well, I think too like he, you know, you get the catalogs in the mail still, even this, even at this day and age, you get little magazines or catalogs. And he, I'll leave them out for him to look at because he's like, oh, I want that, I want that. And, and, and that was like two in a row I left out. And I decided I'm going to put those up. Because he gets so excited about what he's going to get. And so I started talking to him about. I said, well, what are you going to give? And he just looked at me, he said what? I said, ma', am, because we're correcting him all the time about how to respond to adults, you know. But he said, what?

[Jason Robertson]

What?

[Missy Robertson]

He said, I said, you have to not. You're not just going to get something. You need to give something. Of course you're talking to a three year old who has no job, no money, no resources. So I'm thinking I'm gonna have to teach him how to make something for people in the family. Because that's the best way to do it is actually spending time, not just going to the store and spend some Spending someone else's money and saying, I got you something. And so I'm collecting some things that we're going to do some crafts, you know, together that he can give to certain members of the family.

[Jase Robertson]

And you're teaching him a little work.

[Missy Robertson]

But it made him stop and think. So then it was so cute. Then he started going through the toy catalog and saying, you can have this, Lulu Jayrock. You can have this. And pointing. And he understood, like, the girl things. He started looking at the girl things for me and the boy things for Jayrock. So at least it's starting in his mind. Like, I need to think about other people and not just myself.

[Jase Robertson]

So I don't know if Missy knew this. So she started this conversation. Well, then I. I got up with him one morning, and he's in there on his little place scrolling through the Christmas catalog, putting check marks. Oh, yeah, had a marker. And I'm like, what's with the check mark? He's like, well, this is what I'm getting for people. I was like, you've pretty much check marked the entire catalog. So let me explain something to you.

[Missy Robertson]

You.

[Jase Robertson]

Until you get a job and have some money, we can't just get all this. Even though your heart's right, you want to give this. This is. There's too many check marks there.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, let me say this. There was a time when, which every year for years, we've done this. And I think it's because back when Reed was in the first grade at ocs, he had a classmate whose dad had Lou Gehrig's disease. And there are three siblings, and Ellie was the oldest. Reads, Reads. Age in first grade. And I remember this so vividly because at the end of the first grade year at our Christian school, the first graders put on a little production about what they're going to be when they get older. And it's all these different jobs and they dress up and it's the cutest thing. And they do it every year, like at the end of the school year. And this. We had to change locations to do it because, you know, we had to accommodate the dad in the wheelchair. And the wheelchair was extensive, because, you know, with Lou Gehrig's disease, there's a computer keyboard, breathing apparatus, all the stuff that's happening. And so we did it in the cafeteria. So we're already in a different place. And then the dad of one of their classmates is here in this wheelchair. And I feel like it's probably a core memory for Reed and all of the kids in that class, because it was very striking to me. And so we did that. And then three months later, like, the first or second week of the next school year, he died. He passed away. And I took Reed to the funeral, and it just made a big impact on starting that year and kind of a downer for his class and for Ellie and for her family. And so that Christmas, they're just on my heart. And it was 2004, so ELF, the movie Elf had come out the year before. So I thought, why don't we make Ellie and her family like a movie basket? And, you know, DVDs were, like, 20 bucks probably. It was probably just come out on DVD. So it was the most expensive one. And so I was like, we don't have much money. But I think I remember spray painting a. An old Easter basket, like, red, because I didn't want to have to buy a new basket and kind of filled it with. I asked Reed to find out, you know, like, what their favorite candies were. And I put a couple of bags of microwave popcorn and, like, three or four different sodas, like, bottled sodas in this basket. Just trying to keep the cost low, but ended up being, like, 30, 25, 30 bucks, you know, And I. We gave it to them. Reed helped me do it. We gave it to her mom for Christmas, like, the last day of school. Just said, want to give you this to help y' all have a merry Christmas. Because I just thought, man, it's the first Christmas without their dad. So An Elf we knew is a really funny movie. Maybe it will bring some joy to their life, you know? Well, it did. They loved it. She just. I mean, even years later, she ended up teaching at ocs. And years later, I saw her in the hall, and she said, I just don't know if you. If you understand what that did for our family back then. We laughed and laughed and laughed that night at that movie together. So what? But my point for telling this is that the next year, for Christmas, Reed said, who are we giving a movie basket to this year? Mom.

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[Missy Robertson]

And. And I was like, I wasn't thinking that way. And so every year of them growing up, we chose a family to do something for. Wasn't a movie basket. I just felt like that family needed that, but we would do something for a family or for one person or something. But Reid is really the one that brought it to my attention that we need to make this an annual thing, because, you know, kids are all about routine. They love routine. And then they. He saw how they reacted to the act of giving and bringing joy. And he's been always been very sensitive. Reed has. And he's always been very giving. So he wants to give away everything he has. When he sees someone in need, he'll just give it to him.

[Jason Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

Jace Oh, I love this blanket and I think it's going to make a beautiful Christmas present for my lovely wife.

[Jason Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

I love the pajamas. I don't like taking pictures with the entire family with matching pajamas, but they seem to love that.

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[Missy Robertson]

That it's. It's teaching your children to be givers. And if you don't teach them to be givers, they will be takers. And it doesn't just happen automatically. And so I believe that through the years, even though we had every excuse in the book to be takers, we didn't have much money. Then Mia comes along, sucks. Anything that we did have, you know, right out the window, and we're in debt. There was no reason for us to even think along the lines that we shouldn't be takers, for we should be the ones in need and having the baskets given to us. But that's just not what Jesus is about. He's. No matter how much money we have in our bank account, I heard a saying a long time ago that said if you're not going to give, if you're not going to share a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when you're poor, you're not going to share a steak when you're rich. And it's the mindset. It's not how much you have. It's the mindset. And I think about not just Christmas, but about baby showers, wedding showers, hosting different things like that. People just. A lot of people just skip those. But then when it's time for their daughter to have one or granddaughter, it's like, well, no one came to my showers. Like, well, how many have you been to in the last year? You know? And so there's always A reason to say, well, I'm too busy, or I don't have the money. But then you can always find a way to give, whether it's something small or something large. When we started receiving, when in the duck dynasty years, more money, then we would take on an entire family's Christmas, including a mattress, you know, that a child needed or. I mean, can you imagine having a mattress on your Christmas list? If there's a family that puts a mattress on their Christmas list, I'm going to help that family.

[Jason Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, You've done a good job with that. Well, we didn't get to our Bible study, but I will say this. I think this has been a good Christmas episode, but we had something I want to bring up in our closing minutes that. So the first guy I shared Jesus with was my best friend in high school, and he recently spoke. And my point of telling this story is the best thing you can do is actually give Jesus to someone. And the resurrection, which we're at here, makes all this possible. We have hard heads thinking, well, we don't know when Jesus was born and why are we celebrating Christmas and all this. But when you start thinking about Easter and the resurrection that makes all this possible, There's a new creation that was launched, and seeing that 35 years later, I guess, in a human being. So he. He goes and. And gives a speech to a. At a men's retreat, which he invited me to come, but we were on the rope.

[Missy Robertson]

And this is Blake, your best friend from high school, and the first person you ever preached Jesus to.

[Jase Robertson]

And he's been on the podcast. We actually had him on an episode somewhere. However, he gave this speech a few weeks ago and I didn't.

[Missy Robertson]

At a men's retreat?

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, at a men's retreat. And I asked him how it went, and he was like, great. Well, this past Sunday, he gave me the speech, and I read that thing, and I was like, this is one of the greatest things I've ever read. And I was so inspired by it. And it just took me back to times in our life when we didn't have any money. We didn't. And all this stress that was causing our marriage from me sharing Jesus every night with somebody and you having to work just to keep food on the table while I'm out gallivanting doing this. I don't know. It was. I wanted her to read it, and you read it, and we both got tears in our eyes, and there was just something about that and looking at how his life has been and them Adopting children and just all the good things that happened in a very raw, rough upbringing that he had. And I wanted to bring that up because you look back on just seeds of. Of Jesus that you sow, and it's Incredible to read 35 years later, you're talking about a transformation. It's the greatest gift that you could ever give someone.

[Missy Robertson]

It was so transparent, authentic, humble, real, honest. It was very inspiring, that speech. And it was. It was about 20 to 30 minutes it took me because I read every single word and I got choked up. But I told Jay, I mean, after it kind of marinated in my heart for a little bit, I said, you know, those first few years of our marriage were really hard because we were dealing with so many people and all of their problems. And Al, you and Lisa were there with us doing the same thing every night. We never. We were never alone. That was hard. But reading that, that Blake wrote, I said it makes it all worthwhile because he's not the only one. He was one of hundreds. And it just. Just makes it the kingdom of God so much sweeter.

[Jason Robertson]

Well, and it just takes you back to that Revelation 12:11. You know, you overcome the evil one by the blood of the lamb, the word of a testimony, someone being willing to write it down and talk about it, and that you don't love this life so much, you would shrink back from anything.

[Missy Robertson]

All of those times that we had, we did all of that, that we never realized the impact we knew the impact we were having on those individual people. But now reading Blake's story about his life, his wife, his two children that he's adopted since then, all of the lives that he's changed because of the simple message of Jesus.

[Jason Robertson]

Well, we'll give all that praise to God. Missy, thank you for saving the day. Coming on the podcast, it's always fun to have you on and. And we're still in the fall of love. You guys didn't even fight, so all is good. We'll get Zach.

[Missy Robertson]

Well, we're trending.

[Jase Robertson]

We're trending. Well.

[Jason Robertson]

We'll see you next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.