Ep 1261 | Jase Breaks Down Why Jelly Roll’s Grammys Speech Felt Like a Light in Darkness

Summary

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1261: Jase Breaks Down Why Jelly Roll’s Grammys Speech Felt Like a Light in Darkness
Release Date: February 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Robertson family (Jay, Jase, Al, and Jason), broadcasting from West Monroe, Louisiana, unpack their harrowing experiences during a devastating ice storm—dubbed the “Ice Apocalypse”—that left them and much of their community without power for over a week. Their stories of survival, family bonding, hunting adventures, and challenging conditions naturally lead into deeper spiritual discussions about “light in darkness,” both literal and metaphorical. At the heart of the episode, Jase and the group reflect on Jelly Roll’s moving Grammys speech and its bold, positive testimony about Jesus—a “light” moment that resonated deeply with the hosts. Through personal anecdotes, faith applications, and scriptural connections, the Robertsons highlight themes of spiritual preparedness, generosity, and the ultimate hope found in Christ.

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Key Discussion Points

Surviving the Ice Apocalypse in Louisiana

• Life During an Ice Storm (00:06-08:59)
  • The hosts recount the “Ice Apocalypse”—a rare Southern ice storm that left them without power for 8+ days. Slippery ice, impassable roads, and resourcefulness were the order of the day.
  • Duck hunting became both a bonding experience and a necessity, resulting in an epic, meat-filled hunt. (03:06)
  • Neighborly help was essential: “You have givers and takers, and people who need help. We did our best.” – Jason (15:36)
• Caring for Family & Community (08:59-16:15)
  • Al and Jason share stories of welcoming family and neighbors who had lost power—sometimes at the expense of privacy or comfort:
    • “We moved Missy's parents and their pets in... I was thinking, honor your father and mother. But in the back of my mind... leave and cleave.” – Jason (09:09)
  • Dangerous conditions: Tree falls, power outages, and injured neighbors underline how precarious things became.

Spiritual Lessons from Darkness and Light

• Power Outages as Spiritual Metaphor (19:09–21:03)
  • After days without light, Jase frames the experience as “fumbling around in the dark”—a vivid image of life without Jesus:
    • “This is what it's like to be outside of Jesus and have no purpose. You're bumbling, fumbling… Bad things are happening. You need that heat. You need light… it just was a living illustration.” – Jason (19:07)

Jelly Roll’s Grammys Speech: A Light in the Darkness

• Why the Speech Resonated (20:31–25:02)

  • The hosts discuss a clip from Jelly Roll’s acceptance speech at the Grammys, highlighting his unashamed proclamation of Jesus:
    • “I want to tell y'all right now, Jesus is for everybody. He's not owned by one political party… Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord.” – Jelly Roll (as quoted by Al, 24:19)
  • The Robertsons are struck by the authenticity and the universal, non-partisan gospel message. Even amidst industry backlash, the testimony stands as a beacon.
    • “It was just like a moment that was shockingly like a bright light in this place.” – Al (20:31)
    • “He sounds like a man who received a pardon and it was good news, and he can't quit talking about it.” – Jay (25:02)
    • “You can be under lock and key and still be free in Jesus.” – Phil (quoted by Al, 25:32)

• Contrast With the Culture (Negativity vs. Light) (23:10–24:19)

  • Discussion of other Grammy nominees' political or negative acceptance speeches is contrasted with Jelly Roll's positivity and focus on Christ.
    • “Jelly Roll, he was like, man, let's just have something positive and good.” – Jay (24:13)

• Faith Through Storms and Success (50:46)

  • Reflecting on Jelly Roll's message to a room of worldly “success”:
    • “Even in your best efforts and your best preparation, literally one storm can come in and hold more power that you can't do anything about…Nobody…can stop a storm. Nobody can stand against that power. Except the one who calmed the storm: Jesus.” – Al (50:46–52:21)

Real-World Adventures & Humor

• Duck Hunting & Spiritual Growth (03:06–05:55)
  • Amid adversity, family and friends experienced “the greatest duck hunt ever,” with a touching moment when Zach, often teased for being a “yuppie,” successfully shoots a duck for the first time:
    • “I said, who fired that shot? ...That was me. And I said, well, you finally arrived. Your yuppiness has been removed.” – Jason (05:55)
• Challenges: Vehicle Loss, Near Hypothermia, and Danger (27:35–31:02)
  • The group details losing a truck, damaging an Argo, and a near-hypothermia incident—with signature Robertson humor:
    • “Well, we lost a truck. We lost an Argo. I said, we had a guy have hypothermia. We thought he was gonna die…” – Jason (31:05)
• Preparedness & Family Resilience
  • The importance of planning ahead—physically and spiritually—is a recurring theme.

Biblical Ties and Faith Applications

• Scripture as Foundation (53:33)

  • The hosts ground their stories in biblical principles:
    • “If you put all your hope in created things on the earth, you're going to be disappointed. …Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory…” – Jason, paraphrasing Romans 1 and 2 Corinthians 4 (53:33)

• Practical Faith in Adversity

  • Whether dealing with power outages or spiritual questions, the Robertsons consistently model turning to prayer, the Bible, and helping others.

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Memorable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Living Without Power:
  “This is what it's like to be outside of Jesus and have no purpose. You're running into things… It's chaos. You need… light.” – Jason (19:07)

• On Jelly Roll’s Speech:
  “I want to tell y' all right now, Jesus is for everybody…Jesus is Jesus and anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord.” – Quoted by Al from Jelly Roll at the Grammys (24:19)

• On Faith and Adversity:
  “Even in your best efforts and your best preparation, literally one storm can come in and hold more power that you can't do anything about… Nobody…can stop a storm. Nobody can stand against that power. Except the one who calmed the storm: Jesus.” – Al (50:46–52:21)

• On Spiritual Preparedness:
  “Are you prepared? And that's a big part of it. …It starts with thinking ahead to your eternal life… and whether you survive something or not… you win because…the resurrection, it's always there.” – Jay (49:16)

• Scriptural Perspective:
  “…though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.” – Jason (53:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:06–08:59 – Life in the “Ice Apocalypse": Setting the scene, resourcefulness, family stories, and unexpected hunting success
• 19:09–21:03 – Light vs. Darkness Metaphor: Faith lessons from days without electricity
• 20:31–25:02 – Jelly Roll’s Grammys Speech and Impactful Gospel Moment
• 27:35–31:02 – Epic Duck Hunt: Vehicles, Hypothermia, Humor, and Spiritual Talks
• 49:16–52:21 – Preparedness: Temporal and Eternal
• 53:33–54:43 – Perspective from Scripture on Suffering and Renewal
• 54:55–55:23 – Prayer and Closing Reflection

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Tone and Takeaways

The conversation is casual, family-oriented, full of humor, storytelling, and “down-home” wisdom. The Robertsons’ faith consistently undergirds their reactions to hardship. Jelly Roll’s public faith declaration becomes a touchstone for how a single voice can bring light into a darkened culture. Their experiences during the ice storm serve as both a literal and spiritual metaphor for relying on Christ as the ultimate light and hope, no matter how dark or unpredictable life becomes.

Final Reflection:
Whether facing power outages, storms, or cultural darkness, the Robertsons champion preparation, family, neighborliness, and unwavering faith in Jesus—the true “light in the darkness.”

Transcript

[Al]

I am unashamed. What about you?

[Jay]

Welcome back to Unashamed. We. This is the maiden voyage post Ice Apocalypse. I've named our experience as the Ice apocalypse. When I left my house today, and it was nine days ago when this thing hit, I still had ice all over my steps. I couldn't walk. I couldn't walk to my truck. Now it's just all slippery.

[Jason]

Same issue.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Which most people south of our interstate.

[Jay]

Which is where we sit today.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Which wasn't bad at all.

[Jason]

Here it wasn't as bad, but we just got power. We spent eight days out without power.

[Jay]

Eight days without power. Old school.

[Jason]

And now look, I'm going to have to say this right off the top, where we're going with this. What? I noticed a pattern developed, Zach, because we hadn't even talked about you coming down to experience the duck hunting in the ice. And then I just looked up and he was gone. The smoke. I was like, whatever happened to Zach?

[Jay]

He's like a vapor.

[Jason]

Last I heard, he was headed to Walmart and I never saw him. This is the first time I've seen him since he just vanished.

[Jay]

Well, he got him a little taste of the hunt, which. Zach, I want to hear about that experience. And then he came to my house, which I had a Generac. So the smartest thing I did was six years ago, after the hurricane, was invest in a generic. And dear old dad was the reason why. He said, al, you'd be an idiot not to buy that. And I said, you're right. So I have power.

[Jason]

The only problem is calling me an idiot.

[Jay]

Well, I'm not that dad did, but. But the only problem with Jay's. When you get the Generac in the neighborhood is then everybody came to my house. So we were feeding 15 plus people.

[Al]

It was a cesspool of disease and.

[Jay]

Kids got sick and people.

[Al]

Sick as a dog. And it's just viruses spread around. But I will tell you, I mean, four days. I mean, we were down there four days. Yeah, I did. I was down there four days at. With Jace and which. So the initial instruction was, if you want to go hunt with us, you have to be prepared to be stuck down here for four days.

[Jason]

Yeah. Which turned into eight.

[Al]

There was a window of opportunity where you. Where after the first day, he said, you got it. Okay. We're gonna take the nurse man back and christian back at 9am but if you stay past this point, then you're probably not getting out.

[Jason]

That's true.

[Al]

And so Bear, my son was hunting right down the Road from us inside. So do we need. Yeah. You guys care if Bear came? And I thought y' all were going to push back on that, but then I realized that they wanted. They wanted an extra gun in the blind, so they said, yeah, bring. Bring him on. So, Bear, Me and Bear got stuck down there with Jace and Jay and Burley. And, yeah, it was like a meat fest. We ate a bunch of meat. It was the greatest duck hunt I've ever been on.

[Jay]

Oh, it was epic.

[Jason]

Phenomenal. And look, me and old Bear bonded. Me and Zach, not so much. But Zach did have a moment. He had.

[Al]

I want to hear this. I want to hear this.

[Jason]

I will give you credit because you have yuppie tendencies. And. But you've done something right, because your kids are absolutely fabulous. I told Bear, I was like, you're welcome here anytime, buddy. He was a giver, not a taker. He's ready to work. He just enjoyed it. So we had a mallard drake come in. And of course, we. You know, just to put this season in perspective, we were at about 200 ducks until the ice storm total for the season. Worst season ever. Of course, we had no water. But that ice, not only did it bring the ducks down, it actually provided way more water for us because it was whatever they said it was going to, however many inches. They were way off because it was. We got hammered. But every day the water would come up, and it just. The more ducks came, more ducks came. So the. We killed about 350 the last nine days. Wow. Now that's incredible.

[Jay]

That's pretty.

[Jason]

The last day.

[Jay]

So you doubled the season total.

[Jason]

More than double. Almost tripled. Yeah. Yeah. And the last day, we had three groups. 18 men. You can do the math. And we shot 92 total between the three groups. So we were. Sounds like a lot, but we were like, I don't know, 15 short of the limit. 16, like that. But. But we hunted all day.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So two groups did, and then one, they. They waved the white flag. But Ozac, a mallard drake, came in. Of course, I'm kind of the captain and the blind, and I'm like, when to shoot him? And of course, I was fixed to just cut him when he come by because he had circled a few times. So as soon as he cut my corner, I said, shoot him. And I raised up and was fixed to shoot him. But then I just realized, oh, he's coming in the decoys. So I waited. I waited. I mean, I've already said. I've already given the command. Shoot Him. I waited, and about the time I was squeezing the trigger, a shot rang out. And I ended up making sure this duck was absolutely. All his regrets had been removed. And I was about a second behind. But the first shot was perfect shot. So I asked the question. I said, who fired that shot? And that's a bad question. That was me. And I said, well, you finally arrived. Your yuppiness has been.

[Al]

I said. I said, jason, I've been hunting with you before, but it's like all the past. It was. He said, the day you have become a man. And then it was about 20 minutes of.

[Jason]

Zach Dasher actually raised up a firearm.

[Al]

He said, well, I'll be. Zach Dasher killed a duck.

[Jay]

I mean, my goodness. Surprise. That.

[Jason]

Like, I was stunned.

[Al]

I was shocked.

[Jason]

Now the duck was 10 yards, almost emotionless. But still, I thought, okay.

[Al]

Oh, man.

[Jay]

Just the fact he did it.

[Al]

Oh, I was stunned. Let me tell you something, man. I. I actually prayed that Bear would get stuck down there with us, because, I mean, I. He needed that, too. And. And. And there. I will say there was a day, one day where me and Stone. Stone said, I think this is going to be a. Phil calls it ride the hole, which is what you do when there's just nothing there, but you just grind it out. So Stone's like, you ain't this. We ain't killing no more ducks. He said, I'm gonna leave. And he kind of told me, like, you. You probably want to come with me. And so I went back with Stone, and Bear stayed back with Jace. And I think they did actually ride the hole. They may have got one more after we left. I don't know what you.

[Jason]

It was more than one, but it was. It was not. It was pretty slow. We had a couple slow days in there, and then a couple days I couldn't hunt because once I determined the severity of the ice storm, well, plus, Missy was home.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Jason]

She was like, I need a little help here. So one night, I. I just decided to drive really slow in the middle of the night because the roads were still icy. And it was a crazy story. When I got to. I mean, it just kept getting worse. The further I went north, it got worse and worse. And when I got to our neighborhood, in my headlights, I look, and there's a tree that I couldn't get my arms around across our road. I'm like, I'm not going in. I'm not. If I go to our house, I'll be walking, because you're not going past this.

[Jay]

It looked like, the gate fell on the gate, and it just mangled. I mean, mangled of which I cut.

[Jason]

A few days later. But I wound up going into your driveway, Al, Which I made the maiden voyage on that. Now, the next morning. And then I walked to my house. But next morning, when I walked over there, I was like, if I would have been able to see down your driveway clearly, I would have never tried that. But in the moment, I wanted to be with my wife, and, you know, I had to bring her some firewood. And it was. It just evolved in a downward spiral after that, because we were thinking three or four days. But her parents, you know, they lost their power. And at some point, they were just living in their vehicle with the heat on. And my wife was like, that's not going to work. And they're like, oh, no, the power's coming on any minute. Which, you know, because you kept getting.

[Jay]

These reports, and they'd say, you know, this time. But it was never. It was never right. It was days after.

[Jason]

So they. We moved my parents in, which, okay, you have no power. You move Missy's parents and their pets in.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And it was so crazy, because the whole time they were there, I was thinking, they need help. We're family. I was thinking, honor your father and mother. But in the back of my mind, Al, I was thinking, leave and cleave. Honor your father and mother. Leave.

[Jay]

And Cleveland for this reason, a man leaves his father.

[Jason]

Because what happened?

[Jay]

It was riding the rail of the theology, Zach, because when you're living in the moment. And Benjamin Franklin had it best once you get past three days.

[Jason]

Well, it was a while this developed, you know, it was really good because you realize you're supposed to honor your father and mother. We only had one room that was warm because we had a gas fireplace in our bedroom. So Missy's like, you realize they're going to have to move in our bedroom. And I was like, well, you realize I'm going to have to move out if they move in. And she's like, well, yeah.

[Al]

So, Al, your house, during the apocalyptic snowstorm was infested with viruses because you had some sick grandkids around.

[Jay]

Yeah. And they were. They were spreading the wealth with the rest of us. It was. It's not. Not a fun time in our house right now.

[Al]

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[Jason]

And so we were gonna take the couch because we have the fireplace. I was gonna be in charge of the Keeping the fireplace stove. But I was so tired that once I went to sleep, you know, I woke up three or four hours later. I actually heard their dog gagging. I thought, what is this?

[Jay]

You never want to wake up hearing kids or dogs gagging. That's just.

[Jason]

Yeah. And I thought, should I go in there? You know, it's like, no, we'll just have to deal with it later. But I looked up, well, Missy's. She's moved over to the cold wing. Found out the next day that it was because I was snoring so loud. She's like, I'd rather be cold than listen to this chainsaw going on. So we did that for a few days. But what I was going to say that what started off this conversation, so many things happen along the way. Because it's just like anything else. You start going back to where in times when you had no electricity. And my wife, I have to just give her credit. I mean, she just evolved into. She cooked a meal every day. We had a gas stove, but like a complete meal. I mean, we only got one meal a day, but it was a big one.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And she had candles. I don't know why she kept getting all these candles. And she'd have it lit up at night. And I mean, as it went along it just got better and better. But multiple people along the way because, you know, I finally realized the only way I'm going to clear this road is if I do it because we're technically a private road. And I waited a day probably you.

[Jay]

And David Owen are the only ones with equipment to even do anything.

[Jason]

Well, and guess who, Guess who was out there. I did the cutting and then he did the tractor.

[Jay]

Removal.

[Jason]

Yeah, he kind of had a rake and just made it where at least when the ice did melt you could get out of there. But, but it was, it was tricky because there were so many limbs down.

[Jay]

Well and you had to be careful because a good friend of ours, their son was in his 20s, I think. I mean he had a tree fall on his back. Broke his back.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I don't know how he is at this point, but we've been praying for him. But it was very dangerous situation. I mean you had to watch his lies down. A kid got electrocuted just the last day or two. And so it's a very dangerous situation. But it's just the complexity of the living Jays when you were saying that because we had to. So we were feeding our crew which we had set up for this. But then we had some extras that people that were in bad situation. One is a friend whose husband's deployed. She's got a little young child. So they stayed with us. But then I was having to trek over to take food to mom and ain't Ann because we came home. Zach. I was in 65 degree Gulf Shores in a perfect situation but decided to come home because I knew we'd need help and I knew Mom, I'm really glad you did. Yeah. And it was worth it. It was great because we got stocked up on food but mom and a. They decided, they were like I said, will you come stay at our house because we're going to have power because I have a generic. And she was like, no, it's going to be too loud over there. I was like, well mom, you're just going to stay over here. So we got her. Willie got her a generator. So they stayed there with one of their sitter ladies and she stayed. She rode out the whole storm with them.

[Jason]

Well, what's funny is twice they ran out of gas in there. And have you heard this story? Yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

And.

[Jason]

But it was like 3:30 in the morning. The other one was 4, which I couldn't believe. They didn't call me. She's like, oh no. I called Willie and I was surprised that Willie got up and went and got them some gas because it was hard to find gas.

[Jay]

Yeah, it got hard to find gas. But Willie also has a couple of guys that work for him. That helpful for stuff like that?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So, look, we just made do.

[Jason]

We may do. And look, a lot of people were way worse off than we are. And I think in any of these things, you have givers and takers, and then you have people who need help.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And so we did our best. I'm even today doing a thing with Samaritan's purse to bring some more volunteers here, because a lot. You know, half the city is fine, but the north half, it's really bad. So we need some more volunteers and Samaritan Purse and even one kingdom.

[Jay]

They were in our neighborhood two days after one kingdom was which you guys have supported them. We appreciate it.

[Jason]

It turned out to be a weight problem. That ice mostly broke off big limbs on most trees and just.

[Jay]

I've never heard anything like it. We were standing out there. The initial thing was heavy sleet, and then it turned to freezing rain, and that's what added the weight. And then I'd say within two hours of this whole process starting, it sounded like cannons going off all across.

[Al]

No, it was. It was. It looked like a. It looked like a war zone, and people use that language a lot, but that's what it looked like. I went down, and it felt like that kind of had that apocalyptic feel, kind of like it did when we had the storm here.

[Jay]

We.

[Al]

I ended up going over to Phil's house, which the Generac did not come on there for some reason, but I went over there because when we lost power, where we were staying with Jace, we had no lights. And so we ended up. Which was a whole nother issue.

[Jay]

And how is that. How was it with, like, six men in a room in the dark, sleeping?

[Jason]

There was actually four of us in that little room. It was me, Jay, and Bear.

[Al]

Bear, just.

[Jay]

But I've heard Stone snoring and.

[Jason]

Oh, it was a problem.

[Jay]

I mean, it's like a freight train.

[Al]

That was an issue. But, you know, we were in the old, original Unashamed podcast recording studio. That's where we were at. That's where we stayed.

[Jay]

Oh, that's right. That's. That's now back to being the true lair.

[Al]

So back to the true layer.

[Jason]

Became a layer, I can tell you.

[Al]

Oh, it was a layer.

[Jay]

But we were.

[Jason]

We were the. The last people to lose power, believe it or not. Of course, ironically, they're probably the last to get it back on, because they still don't have it down there. Yeah, but what I was going to say is, you know, I had a. A lot of people when. When I had interactions with them, they were so scared that it was going to be a podcast story. They're like, don't share this on the podcast. You know, and so I thought, well, the name of our podcast is Unashamed. This just happened because I had a couple of really weird things that happened, and I won't use the names, but I was out sawing, and I look up and there's a vehicle backing up in my yard. And I'm like, you're not getting out of here, because it's a pretty big hill. So I'm waving, hollering, turning the saw. I'm like. So the fellow looks at me, and they're like, what are you hollering about? I said, you're in my yard. Because it was all ice. And he's like, emma, he's like, don't tell this on the podcast. What are we going to do? He was talking about calling a wrecker. I was like, no, we're not going to call a wrecker. I'm going to get a chain and pull you out.

[Jay]

You know?

[Jason]

But it made me realize how everything that you think, it just messes with your mind. Because I saw he thought he was on a road. Weirdly enough, my yard kind of looked like the road. And I noticed in your driveway, people did the same thing.

[Jay]

I've got some major ruts going on.

[Jason]

Oh, wow. And so, you know, it made me think, though, about where we're at in first John talking about these illustrations of light and darkness. I mean, you know what I kept thinking about every five minutes, Let there be light. What a joy that we have light. Because you're bumbling, fumbling around in the dark for eight days. And I kept thinking, this is what it's like to be outside of Jesus and have no purpose. You're running into things. Bad things are happening. It's chaos. You need that heat. You need light. All the things that we talk about, it just was a living illustration.

[Al]

And you know it when you see it, because it pierces through the darkness. I mean, it's. It's such a. A contrast. But I. You know, we were debating this at the beginning of the podcast before we started, about when Jelly Roll, I said, he came out recently and had a speech. I sent y' all from the. The Grammys, which I thought was. I thought it was from the Grammys. Which was. Would have been on February 1st or 2nd. And Jace said that he'd already given the speech somewhere. I don't know if he.

[Jay]

Maybe it's maybe the same speech. Right.

[Al]

But, you know, there was so much swirling around the gram here. And, and, man, when he spoke, it was so, like, authentic and real.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Al]

I mean, I don't know the guy. I don't know his, his. His whole, like, conversion story, whatever, but clearly the guy's like. He's like, look, I, I, I see you, Jesus. I hear you. And, and I thought it was a very clear presentation of the gospel that he was in. One minutely. In one minute, I was, like, unashamed. And it was just like a moment that was shockingly like. It was like a bright light in this place. And this guy's not. It wasn't like a accusatory thing at anybody. He's just like, hey, this is Jesus saved me.

[Jason]

End of the day.

[Al]

Like, this is like, Jesus is the answer to the whole thing. It is all about Jesus. And the way he said it, though, was like, this is. I just, I always thought, you know, music would save me. So that. But realize that it was God who was going to save me. It was Jesus. And, and I'm listening, and I want to move forward. So I don't know his whole faith journey, but clearly something's happened in his life. And so you see that contrast in that moment, and it's like everybody was kind of drawn to it. I mean, I know he got some backlash for it, but I think in the moment, it's all right. The backlash is always going to come. But in the moment, like, God goes into a room and just illuminates. So I'm a big believer in monitoring your credit because it really can affect the interest rates that you're paying. So if you're looking to refinance your home or to buy a new car, to rent an apartment, anything that depends on credit, you want a score that will be as strong as possible, and you got to have it. Now you're going to need smart credit. Your credit score may have taken a big hit over the holidays. A late payment, just one late payment can really hurt. But you know what else hurts is opening up a store credit card just to get the discount and transferring a balance from one card to another that can drop your score fast. Smart credit. It's the new science and credit scoring. With data experts who understand how the credit bureaus operate, Smart credit builds a personalized strategy designed to take action and maximize your score. But potentially you could see real upward change to secure better rates on everything you finance. Better scores mean faster approvals, lower payments, and even more money in your pocket. Get ahead of it now with Smart Credit. I've actually used this service before and it told me exactly which credit cards to pay off. I paid them off and my score jumped up 60, 70 points. It's the real deal. So go to smartcredit.com renashain and start your seven day trial for just $1. Your results are going to depend on your unique credit profile. But I think you'll be excited to see how many points Smart Credit estimates you can gain. Results are not guaranteed. Cancel at any time. That's smartcredit.com unashamed. Smartcredit.com unashamed.

[Jay]

And I like the way I thought the same thing as that. And I like the way he just stayed positive with. He didn't like, say anything bad about anybody else he didn't like because there was a contrast because he had mentioned in an article I read he was talking about Nashville hosting a Super bowl because the Titans are building a new stadium. And so he just said, I think, I think we should have a country music halftime program when it's in Nashville because it's the home of country music. He was just making a point. He wasn't really aiming anybody else. But then I noticed there was like controversy because we got this guy this year. What's Briar Rabbit, what's his name?

[Jason]

Been on the Internet for about 10 days. I thought the super bowl had already happened.

[Jay]

Maddie says Bad Bunny. So Bad Bunny is apparently he. All of his stuff when he won an award at the Grammys was all anti Trump, anti ice enforcement. You know, he just made this whole big political rant is so negative. And I don't know anything about this person, but there's been a lot of controversy about him even being picked. But I just thought Jelly Roll, he was like, man, let's just have something positive and good. He was just so positive about.

[Al]

Well, the light. The, the light was. I just pulled up the quote here. So he said, I want to tell y' all right now, Jesus is for everybody. He's not on. Jesus is not owned by one political party. See, I love that because it's not partisan. He's. This isn't a partisan message. Jesus is not on by no music label. Jesus is Jesus and anybody can have a relationship with him. And I love you, Lord.

[Jay]

So good.

[Al]

I mean, that is. And I think that's a message honestly, for anybody Right, like that. But that is a light that shines through because it's a light that. The light of Christ that's inviting the world, inviting all men. You know, I think that's in the name first, John. You know, we're talking about that. He's. He's. It's for all men. I mean, Christ has invited you into relationship and into participation into his life.

[Jay]

He. He sounds like a man who received a pardon and it was good news, and he's so excited about it, he can't quit.

[Al]

Was he in prison? Was he.

[Jay]

Yeah, he was in prison at some point. He said, I was in a cell.

[Jason]

He said, I was in a cell.

[Jay]

With a Bible the size. This size, and something that played music, this, you know, but I love it. And he honored his wife as well, who was there and said, you know, without Jesus and you, I wouldn't be here. I just. It was very warming.

[Al]

Yeah. I thought it reminds me of that famous quote Phil said at Angola, that you can be under lock and key and still be free in Jesus. And I think that you're in that moment. Like you said, jace, when the lights are out. And you asked what that was like. I mean, there's a moment where when me and Jay came back the night that Bear and Jace hunted, after that, they hunted for a while. We came back and all the lights went out, and we were sitting in there putting in candles. I'd gone down to Phil's house and just confiscated a bunch of candles. We had a. Literally, it smelled good in there because I had about 40 candles of K's old, like, scented candles. And we had all the candles up, and I looked at Jay and I was like, man, we got to go outside or we're going to get depressed. Because it was just so dark. You know what I mean? And so we went out there and built a fire outside. It was super cold, but, like, we had to have that light, you know, and to make Jay call somebody. So what are y' all doing? Well, we came outside because we didn't want to get depressed in there, but it is depressing just sitting in dark. You have no context. You don't know where anything's at. You're, like, stumbling around, tripping over stuff, but just that one little flame. It's interesting how it can light up an entire area that you can actually see and move around, get a context, move where you're going. So it really was kind of a great metaphor.

[Jason]

Oh, it really was. And the day after you left, which was good timing for you, because that was the roughest day. Which, look, we shot the ducks, so I thought it was worth it. But during the course of the day, we lost a truck. Totaled a truck. We lost one of my Argos. It hasn't run since. We had a young man that works here. He's been here about a year. Well, he got trapped down there. So we're like, you're in. Because everybody left. Everybody pulled Dasher, you know, they're like, it's too rough around here. And so it was. I think it was four of us. It was me, Burley, Jay. Yeah. And the young man. No. And Chad.

[Al]

So we had no Chad, who you affectionately called Dingleberry.

[Jason]

Well, we call him different names, but you got to earn your stripes. But.

[Jay]

So he's one of those central Florida rednecks.

[Jason]

Well, here's what happened. When I have this Argo. I didn't realize the water was so deep because we didn't have a good hunt. That's what sent Zach packing, you know.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And he had to make a trip to Walmart, the one in North Carolina.

[Al]

And this is about 20% true, but it's. It's a typical Jay's fashion.

[Jason]

So. So what happened was, you know, Burley, he's like, yeah, wreck my truck. This morning. He slid off the road, you know, and. Which he limped there. But it was. I looked at it and I thought, oh, yeah, one, one. Your axle and your tire. You're going to need some. Some work here. And he's like, yeah. So we take Margo. Well, I was like, I think all these ducks that are timber. Well, the ice is so thick that when we. We rounded a bend and we had to cut our way because all these trees fell over there, too. So you imagine we did that for two or three days and you had to have a chainsaw. Well, this water kept getting deeper, and I was breaking the ice. But we saw about 3,000 ducks get up in the vicinity of a duck blind. Well, now we lost our mind. We're like, we're going out there. But all we have was this Argo, and all of us are in it, and it only holds two people. And at some point, the water got so deep that this thing's an amphibious vehicle. It goes from riding on land to kind of a propulsion. But the problem was the ice was so thick, it didn't have enough power. I would, like, bump into the ice. So I said, well, y' all got to get out and break the ice. I actually took a little video of it. Was Jay Burley and Cade is his name. They were breaking the ice. Well, I noticed at some point. And then I'm just following them in the Argo. They're. They're making a trail for me. I noticed that that cage started shaking violently. And I'm like, what seemed to be the problem there? I mean, is it. It's not that cold. I figured they'd be warm breaking ice. He said, well, somewhere in breaking this ice, punched holes in my waiters.

[Jay]

Oh, boy.

[Jason]

Oh, And Burleigh, who is a nurse. That's why I wasn't worried. I thought, we have a nurse. You're in the first stages of hypothermia.

[Jay]

Oh.

[Jason]

Said if you. Gives you incentive to get to the blind. Which I took that to mean he's a young man, he just arrived. I said, that gives you incentive to follow Jesus. What's the worst thing that can happen to you in Jesus? Resurrection. And so we stopped, took a time out in this moment and had a good Jesus discussion while he's violently shaking. Shaking. We get him to the blind.

[Jay]

So much compassion, man.

[Jason]

Because he's like, I think I need to, you know, might need to go. I was like, go where? We're three miles from anywhere.

[Jay]

You know, you're where you're gonna be.

[Jason]

You need to build a fire and get over and hug it. And then every once in a while, raise up and shoot. It'll warm you up, you know. And so we wound up killing a limit of ducks. But it was a tough day. I mean, when I just looked at it because Missy said, how'd it go?

[Jay]

I said, For 1K, it was a really tough day.

[Jason]

So we lost the truck. We lost an Argo. I said, we had guy have hypothermia. We thought he's going to die.

[Jay]

Almost lost a man.

[Jason]

He pulled through. But we had a good Jesus talk about that, and we wound up killing limited ducks.

[Jay]

Does the man know Jesus? That we know Jesus?

[Jason]

But I'm telling you what I think. Like all. All the relationships in times like this, it tends to galvanize what you believe. I mean, it becomes real. So all in all, look, it was a lot of opportunities to help people, and it's still ongoing.

[Jay]

And so Lisa and I left about halfway through the ice apocalypse. We had an event in Illinois, and it was. It was so funny because we get there, of course, up there, this same storm system dumped a foot of snow on them.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And which is, according to them, unusual. There's a large amount, 12 to 16 inches of snow. And so we'd Say, you know, somebody, we'd be talking, and they say, oh, y'. All. Where are y' all from? You know, we're from Louisiana. Oh, what do you think about all this snow? I said, well. Well, actually, like, I came from a place way worse than this, you know, and then you have to tell them the story about the ice because, like, they're functioning.

[Jason]

I'm gonna give a little sermon here because I realize people from the north making fun of, you know, people in the south because we don't understand cold. There's a difference when it's ice. And my buddy who lives in the north, you know, he kept saying, I mean, what's the big deal? You can drive. I was like, no, no, no. You can't walk. You take one step, you're going down. I saw my wife there one day. She. Because we put all our stuff that was in the refrigerator and freezer. You just put it outside, you know, in yeti iced. Yes. And that actually worked quite well. But she stepped on that ice and she just started doing it. It was like, what's the game you play? You know?

[Jay]

Twister.

[Jason]

Yeah, it was like, I Twister. You know, and the problem is, at.

[Jay]

Our age, J, some things twist. They don't twist back. That's the.

[Jason]

I mean, I use. Yeah. I use my four wheel drive more in the last 10 days than I've used since I've had that truck. And I've had that three or four years.

[Jay]

And I found out, unfortunately, with mine, my four wheel drive does not work.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Because I don't ever use it.

[Jason]

Exactly.

[Jay]

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[Jason]

Yep. Missy wrote because youe're My Family. And Jep and Jessica actually helped co write Dear Valor. And it's a story about adoption. And obviously, because you're my family, just basically talks about God's redemptive story. Yeah.

[Jay]

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[Jason]

Yeah, when you get a. And I don't know what their forecast or what we got, but in our neighborhood, it just collected. I don't know if it's from the trees, but we. In my backyard, I had a. It was a foot of ice. A foot.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And it's still there. And it's been above freezing three or four days since then. The ice is still there. I mean, that's how thick this ice was. And which is why most of the limbs fell. But I thought about another spiritual principle. You know, in John 15, we're talking about pruning the branches because most of the problem. There were some trees that fell over, but most of it was just all these limbs falling, just the way the limbs would break. And I thought, you know, a year from now we'll look up and say, boy, look. Look how beautiful all this is. Because you don't matter pruning.

[Jay]

Oh, it was a pruning.

[Jason]

God's nature style.

[Jay]

Yeah, but I did there, like you said, there's a huge difference up there. But I will say this to the folks up north, because it never. We left here, you know, it was starting to get warm, warm up a little bit. But I got up there, it never got out of the teens. Was the highest the whole time. And at night it was zero and below zero. And so all that snow is there.

[Jason]

We're not making light of it. I was just saying.

[Jay]

No, I'm saying that you have an ice storm.

[Jason]

You're not going anywhere.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Jason]

There's no driving. There's no. And the power is going to go off.

[Jay]

I barely got out of here to get to the airport, and it just opened up the day we were flying.

[Jason]

Out, the biggest phenomenon that I learned. And I had the only argument I had with my wife because when she called me, she's like, we have water coming in our house. I was like, well, I called my buddy, same guy, lives up north. He's a plumber. He's like, we got a broken water line. And so I called her back. She's like, it's not the water line. It's coming through the ceiling and the floor. And, you know, we Came to, we, we figured out that this ice somehow makes these dams on your roof also.

[Jay]

Valley and it freezes in the gutters. That's what happened.

[Jason]

And so then the water somehow leaks out and backs up. Yeah, and it happened to our entire neighborhood. I mean everybody's house got flooded to some capacity because of that. Which was a strange place. Even Duckleman where we're at right now. I saw them, they were out here doing the same thing.

[Jay]

Well, I didn't realize it but we pulled a smart move so we sent like when it first started, I saw the water backing up underneath Anna's house but the snow was blocking the ice was blocking it. So I got the kids out there, said everybody grab a shovel. And we dug a trench in the initial ice when it was still fresh. So it's pretty easy. And, and it left that water out so our house didn't flood. But you know, we just kind of in the moment made a decision. But we don't flood it too because it just backs in the door.

[Jason]

Yeah, I mean that's why I came, came back here because my wife, she was, you know, it was just the stress of it all the limbs crashing, sounding like it was fourth of July. And I was just like, well I gotta go be with my baby for a while. And well, right past you.

[Jay]

Of course Jeff had his whole crew now he's got a, all of his kids are having babies. So he's got three babies there and his, his son in laws which I think were good help for him. And then, then his daughters. But the problem was Jeff wasn't prepared. He wasn't prepared.

[Jason]

Well, I guess we threw him under the bus. The most funny thing that happened is when I cleared the driveways and yalls driveway and our main road and well, Jeff, every time I looked up he was pulling a little wagon. It was a little black wagon and he had his son in laws. And I was like, what are you doing Jeff? Because I really wasn't sure what he was doing. I thought you need to, you need something way bigger than a wagon. Because I thought is he helping me clear this? And then I realized Jeff's cold. He's just trying to get some firewood. So he was following me around.

[Jay]

Yeah, and he was, at first he had to come to my house. He said, do you have anything that would air up the tires in a wagon? I said well yeah, I got a thing that worked. He said well, how am I going to use it? I said well, it's got a battery pack on it. It'll air your tires up. So he had to air the tires up in the wagon first, and then he's having to get wood. And I said, well, what do you been burning? He said, well, a tree fell on our outdoor furniture and broke it. And so we started there. So they're literally breaking things out in the yard and burning it. And he walked in my house. It was the look on his face because it'd been a couple of days. And he walked in, he looks, of course, the lights are on, the TV's own people are talking, they're drinking tea. And he looked at me and he said, y' all are living.

[Al]

The good life.

[Jay]

Yes. Jeff, let me just tell you something. This. I'm just your older brother, 14 years old, and you. This is what it looks like when you prepare, when you think ahead and you think. And it's funny because Willie and I had the conversation because he was out on his skid deal doing a bunch of work. And I said, willie, I'm really surprised you never got a generator. He said, well, they had buried their lines a few years ago and they. In the substations right next to his house. Of course, he's made it through two hurricanes. His pirate never went out. So I think he thought he was golden. But he wasn't prepared for this.

[Jason]

No.

[Jay]

And so he kept thinking, he said.

[Jason]

Well, the actual power station went out.

[Jay]

I know. And then he gave his generator to his in laws, which was very nice of him. The problem was he's got that big, huge house where he said, I'm freezing to death because you can't heat it. It's too big. I said, well, you can come on over, my little dub wide if you just want to get warm, little brother.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I was like stark Vegas over there. I was lit up. The Sadie had a. Sadie and Christian, they had a Generac on their house as well. And so they were housing all of their wing there. So everybody's. You know, it is. It is interesting, Jason. We talk about compound living because you were out helping clear because you had chainsaw. And then Jep's kids came up and were taking showers and washing clothes at our house. But it is to. To be together and have family close by. And then mom, you know, as they'll check on her every day and other people did as well. Willie kept going over. It is the way that people used to live. And we just kind of reverted back, like you said.

[Jason]

Oh, that's the way I felt, just with the candles and having conversations and reading stories and building Fires you. Basically, I spent a couple days just making it through the day as far as cutting firewood and helping people out. And I think that's the way people did before electricity. And it just becomes the new normal. Oh, yeah. And we did it. I mean, I had an interesting conversation last night with my wife because she saw my leg and she was like, well, how'd you do that? Because I'm not. In all seriousness, when after that day of chainsaw and on that road when, you know, you get so hot, you're so cold, but then you don't realize you got too many clothes on, then you're sweating, and I'm like, tell your parents not to come in here because I'm fixed to take a sink shower. And which I did with in cold water. It was rough, but I looked down, I was like, it looks like I've been in a bar fight. I mean, I had bruises and cuts.

[Jay]

And I got to look because you couldn't even know it was happening.

[Jason]

I didn't even know it was happening. I looked at my leg and I realized that at some point, because when you're cutting and your feet are on ice and, you know, cutting limbs is unpredictable, especially the size of some of them I was cutting, I realized that that chainsaw. Because then I looked at my pants, that chainsaw nicked my leg. And I have every. Where there's a chain link. I had an open wound and I didn't even know I did it. Wow. I never even remember.

[Jay]

That's dangerous.

[Jason]

When it happened, of course I wasn't going to tell her that because, well, I continued to do the chainsaw, but she asked me point blank, how'd you get that interesting wound on your leg? I was like, well, I wasn't going to tell you, but I got a little too close to that chainsaw. But it kind of made me realize, well, that could have been a lot worse because I was right at the brink of that and didn't even realize it, you know?

[Jay]

Well, that's the other thing about it you take for granted because, like, nobody could get out. And so I'm like watching the kids and stuff, and of course stuff's falling outside. Well, they want to go play in the snow, you know, like, no, we can't go play. It's dangerous.

[Jason]

Well, because limbs are falling and so.

[Jay]

So then we finally found some clear areas they could go outside. But like, I was watching this little toddler and he a couple of times fell and hit his head. And I just thought, all it takes is one thing here and we got a bad situation because you can't run down to the clinic like you normally could. You know, you had to deal with even stuff like that.

[Jason]

I kid you not. Missy said, because you know, the garbage has become a problem here, if you'll notice, on the sides of the roads and on people's hoods and because they're.

[Jay]

Not running, I already had two full cans. Just my entire bed of my truck was solid garbage because you know, we were doing four bags of trash a day.

[Jason]

So Missy said, well, they're not gonna be able to pick that garbage up because I looked out there, I mean there's a limb as big around as me. I was like, well one of those garbage cans is not gonna going to make it. But so I said, well, I'll go cut it up. So I cut the tree off of it and all that, got it all straight, go back to the house. And we're sitting there talking kawam. I look one twice as big, hit right where I just was and just decimated the garbage can.

[Jay]

Yeah, flattened it.

[Jason]

And she said, well, I guess it had been better if you had waited. You could get both of them. I was like, made me realize I could have died if I would have done this. About 30 seconds later I wouldn't be here. And she's like, yeah, you're right.

[Jay]

Well, it's been cold. We're certainly in the wintertime. And one of the favorite gifts at my house was anything from Cozy Earth, but especially the bubble cuddle blanket, right, Jase?

[Jason]

I got one for my wife and she has been under it the entire winter.

[Al]

Hey, I slept with mine last night at your house, Al. And I was there. Your granddaughter had snagged it and. But I, but we wanted to get a picture of me under it. I think we may have that picture. But I took it from her and it did not go well. She was not happy.

[Jay]

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[Al]

She's absorbed the Robertson mentality there, obviously. But, you know, when I went out to Phil's house, I saw them trees all snapping, coming down, and I was, and I was underneath a bunch of them, and I was like. And this phrase came to mind. Widowmakers. These are widowmakers. And I, I, I immediately got up into the road because I was like, I'm gonna get hit by one of these things. And we know a couple people that got really injured. There was a. Well, the, you mentioned the young, young boy. Yeah, the podcast that.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Al]

And then I don't know what's going on with him. We should pray for, for him. And then also somebody else. I read on Facebook that one of the canopies at the gas station collapsed on top of him. So there was some.

[Jay]

That was our old, that was our old friend Steve. He was, yeah, it fell on him and broke his back. And, and he, he's, he was in intensive care. He's doing better. But, yeah, it's very dangerous. Some three boys drowned over in Texas. Got out on a, you know, frozen water and got underneath it. So it's a, And I know some folks have, have lost life in Tennessee as well. So it was, you know, once you kind of get through something, you look kind of back and you see that it's, you know, those, those families lives will never be the same.

[Jason]

Oh, man.

[Jay]

For, you know, for sure.

[Jason]

Reminds you that you're imperishable and, and.

[Jay]

How quickly things change. Right? I mean, like, you can be like. In fact, Maddie was like, Maddie's, you know, she was, she's like sending a text out, so we recording tomorrow. Like, Maddie, we're in no condition, too.

[Jason]

I was like, I can't get out of my driveway.

[Jay]

I can't get out of my driveway. Jason's trying to cut his way out. It was like, it was, it was bad.

[Jason]

It is, but it does, you know, it reminds us that we're perishable, but we're in Jesus. We're in this life and fellowship. And this is just part, part of It.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And you have no control, ultimately. And you kind of see those meltdowns in people who are kind of control freaks and think they can control the narrative. When things like this happen, it just tends to escalate, and you feel really small, and your world gets small. I mean, there's no Internet, there's no tv. You're just with who you're with, and you have a decision whether you can gripe, complain, or be scared or stressed out, or be confident that your hope is in a greater power, and you just try to do what he would do. And I think my family did a lot of good things for a lot of good people. And I feel pretty good about it because, like I say, it always can be worse. Yeah. But it's a good reminder to reset.

[Jay]

Well, and I like what you were saying with the Cade thing, kind of in a humorous way, but about being prepared spiritually, eternally, you know, and even in moments like these, because you never know. I mean, look, we've always said that apocalyptic moments are going to happen. I mean, we just kind of experienced it for a week. But I mean, if something happens to the whole setup, you got to be, what are you going to do? You know, so not only just on the physical side, but spiritually. I mean, are you prepared? And that's a big part of it. We had planned this week five and a half years ago, because we live in our little mini compound within the bigger compound. And we thought, okay, we got this house has, you know, gas, so you can, you know, do this. My house had the generac. This house has this. And we thought, if something happens, we can survive. We can do this together. And then it came to fruition, and our lives were hampered, but not near as bad as other people or even in the neighborhood. So thinking ahead makes a huge difference. It starts with thinking ahead to your eternal life. And, Zach, you brought up the jelly roll thing. I think that's moments like that where you can remind people that Jesus is real. And all this stuff we talk about on this podcast is real. I mean, that's where you have to start. And then whether you survive something or not, you, of course, you win because, you know, the resurrection, it's always there.

[Al]

Well, I mean, he's in a room speaking to people who have achieved a great deal of success in life, and they've accomplished, you know, kind of ascended to the top of the mountain, and you think you can build that, right? And you look at what you've built, and sometimes I look at the things I've built. And I'm like, I did pretty well. You know, I've done it. Done a great job here. And then a storm comes, and you look at your entire neighborhood, and it's, like, decimated. And it's like the. All those trees are down, like trees that have been there for 200 years or, like, snapped in two, and you're like, wait. It took so long to cultivate, to build this thing. And we had it all set. It was all right. We had all the. All the things. And then in our best efforts, you know, it's just like, it just wasn't enough. And I think that that's the light that kind of shines through a lot of this, is that realization that even in your best efforts and your best preparation, literally one storm can come in and hold more power that you can't do anything about. And you can be completely at the mercy of Mother Nature. And I think that God gave us that general revelation as a way of drawing us back into submission with him. So that's the irony of Jelly roll. Jesus is the answer. He's got to be the answer. Because if the answer is our own accomplishment and our own abilities, and the problem is nobody in that room, or any room for that matter, can stop a storm. Nobody, nobody can stand against that power. And so I hope that I say nobody except for the one who calmed the storm, the one that said, peace be still. His name was Jesus. And that's why Jesus is the ultimate answer.

[Jay]

When I was in Olney, Illinois, and I met some. A lot of podcast listeners were there, and one man named Jeremy, I was just. I would look back to find this email. He sent me an email, and he was just in tears. We talked a couple of times. He came in with his family, and I met him first, and then we talked a little bit after the event and just about the podcast and our family, and had really helped him through some difficult moments and led him to Christ. He talked about it. He said, I never would have found Christ without y'. All. And he was just so appreciative. And it was kind of like what we were just describing, Zach, and it is humbling. And I told him the last thing I told him we had prayer. His wife has cancer, and she's battling that, but we had prayer. But I told him, I said, look, we're very humbled and honored that we get to do this and we get to guide you through the Bible. Because he was just talking about how much it had meant to him just studying John last year. And it just had led him to that place. So we realized that. And that's part of what this is. This is spiritual preparedness. This is exactly. This is rushing in after storms and during storms in people's lives every single day.

[Jason]

Well, our position in Christ has this heaven and earth concept overlapping in Jesus, but you see the physical earth, and it's wasting away as far as our involvement in it and things happen and reminds us that we're perishable. It made me think of Romans 1, where it says, the people who didn't thank God, but they worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator. If you put all your hope in created things on the earth, you're going to be disappointed at some point. You combine that with 2 Corinthians 4, when he was saying, though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. And I think it's a really good balance to put this stuff in perspective, because it makes you appreciate what you have. And there's a God, and you're not him.

[Jay]

I like it. I'm going to close in a prayer. Mattie sent me a text, said, today's Groundhog Day. Then the groundhog saw his shadow predicting six more weeks of winter. So there we go.

[Jason]

Didn't it feel like Groundhog Day, the movie?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jason]

What was the name of that movie? Was it.

[Al]

Yeah, it's called Groundhog Day Miss.

[Jason]

Because Missy actually said that at day eight we shot, and I was there, and she's like, well, I think I'm gonna take a mental health day because this Groundhog Day has provided some stress. And she went and got her a shower to one of her friends house. I was like, babe, you earned it.

[Jay]

All right, Let me offer up a prayer. Father, we just want to come to you and thank you for getting us through the storm unscathed and just some damaged stuff, but nothing that we can do without. Some have had much more trouble than that. I know some people have been injured, some people have lost their lives. And so I pray a blessing on all those families, those that are struggling to regain health. I pray a blessing on them. Just, you know, be with everyone that was in the storm's path and bless their families. And, Father, we are grateful that we have your son Jesus to prepare us for eternity. Thank you in his name. Amen.

[Al]

Amen.

[Jay]

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