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Jordan (Podcast Host)
Welcome back to Unbiased, your favorite source of unbiased news and legal analysis. Welcome back to Unbiased Politics and to the final episode of the Unbiased University series. I decided we're going to end this series with a little Q A. This episode is going to be very
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different than any other episode.
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I mean, I've done a Q and A in the past, but it's, it's going to be a lot more casual, a lot more conversational. I don't have. No, Well, I was going to say I don't have notes. I do have a couple notes. So basically what I did is I asked all of you on Instagram to
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submit questions that you wanted to know about me.
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And I figured we'd kind of, you know, get to know the girl behind
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the mic who's always so serious.
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And I took 25 of the questions. A lot of the questions are really repetitive, so I tried to include those. And so I do have notes here. I wrote down the 25 questions. But then some of the, some of the questions, there were like, specific things that I wanted to say, so I
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just made notes of that.
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But when I say it's not going to be like other episodes, I just mean that, I don't know, it's just me talking into a mic. You know, I'm not, I'm not here to tell you about current events or teach you anything or anything like that. So I don't, I don't have any formalized notes in that sense. So. Yeah, so if you're watching on YouTube, you can see I am in a hoodie. I'm in an unbiased hoodie. Uh, I figured this episode is all about me and what, you know, what makes me me and who, who I am when I'm not doing the podcast.
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And this is me.
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I am in sweats all the Time. That is just. It's. It's my uniform. So let's. Actually, before we get into the questions, I do just want to say thank you so much for tuning in to Unbiased University. I spent so much time on this year. I mean, I can't even tell you how much time I spent making this series. And I don't say that, you know, so you guys can say, oh, my God, we're, you know, great job. We're so thankful. Like, that's not why I say that. I just think that I'm so passionate about teaching and making so many, you know, people as informed as possible. And I. Yeah, I just put a lot of work into it because I wanted it to be a. I wanted it to be an effective course. Okay. So, you know, anyone can try to teach you about anything, but I think there's a strategic way to teach about all of these things. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the Supreme Court and all these things. And I just really focused on doing that as effectively as I knew how and hearing from all of you how much you loved it and. And how much you learned, even, like, I'm recording this when I've only released a couple of episodes of the series, and so far I've heard so many positive things. So I just know that by the time the series is done, there are going to be so many of you who appreciated it and who learned a bunch, and. And that that's everything that I could have asked for. So thank you for tuning in to the series. It will now live on the podcast forever. So if you ever want to go revisit any of the episodes, it's there. I appreciate you supporting me, like, during this time. Obviously, this was my way of kind of showing up, even though I've been on maternity leave. And. Yeah, I just. I really appreciate your support, so thank you so much. And now let's get into some questions. Okay, so the first question is, what made you want to start unbiased? So I was. I was kind of in the middle of. I was in the middle of jobs. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. And we'll talk more on that later. I think I have a question about how I got here, but I was in between jobs, and it was. Gosh, it was shortly after Covid, and I remember turning on the news during COVID and just being so frustrated that I didn't. I wasn't understanding, like, what was actually going on during the pandemic. I mean, for instance, like, you would turn on, let's say, cnn. I remember this vividly. You turn on CNN and there was a ticker of how many deaths there had been from COVID And it seemed like the news had just become this. And it wasn't just cnn, but just generally the news became this, like, hysteria center. Like, how can we get as many eyes as possible by scaring them? And I don't mean that the pandemic wasn't scary. Of course. Of course it was scary, and it was terrible how many people lost their lives, but it was just this awakening for me of, like, the news isn't teaching anything, you know, And I had always wanted to be a teacher. That was actually. So I went to school for business, but I'd always wanted to be a teacher. I just knew I wasn't going to make the living that I wanted to make. I wasn't going to live the life I wanted to live if I was a teacher. So I never did it. And I think over time, it just turned into this. Like, why not be the teacher? Like, why not be the news and the teacher at the same time? And I started on social media, doing. I would talk about true crime. So I would do, you know, I would, like, talk about a lot of, you probably know, the Murdoch case, the Gabby Petito case, that was happening around the same time. And I was using my law background to kind of explain the legal aspects of those cases. And then Roe versus Wade got overturned, and I got on social media and I was just like, listen, I just want to talk to you about what's happening. Like, I just want to tell you what this means, right? Like, what this Supreme Court decision means for all of us and what it doesn't mean and what people are getting wrong and what people have, right? And I. I said in the beginning of the video, I said, we're not. There's going to be no emotion in this video. This is just going to be purely explanatory. And the video went viral. People loved it. They. They were like, we need this. Like, we need more of this. And, yeah, that's how the ball kind of started rolling. That's how. That's how I got started. And I just started making more videos like that and answering people's questions and taking the. The partisanship out of it and just going back to basics with the law and explaining things. And eventually I got enough requests for a podcast. I didn't know how hard a podcast would be when I started, which is probably good. It's probably better that I went into it, you know, naive, because I don't know if I would have done it, honestly, if I knew how much work it would take and how long it would take to actually turn this into a business and make a life out of it. But, yeah, that's how. That's how I got started. So that's. That's what made me want to start, is just feeling like there was no way to learn about current events without just, like, listening to opinions all day long. And so I just kind of created it. Okay, next question is, before you started unbiased, did you find yourself falling for biased news spins ever? And then a related question was, has doing the podcast changed your views from when you started? Yeah, I mean, look like, I think anyone who doesn't understand the law and politics on a deep level will fall for the bias news spins. That's. That's just what happens. And unfortunately, unfortunately, a lot of us don't have the time to do the deep research, to actually educate ourselves. And I just kind of trusted what people were saying on the news, like so many of us do. We don't want to think that these people are deceiving us, you know. So, yeah, I definitely fell for. For biased news spins. And then how has doing the podcast changed your views from when you started? There's a lot that I learn on a daily basis. I feel like I'm still learning every day. I can report on a story and I might know, you know, the, The. The general gist of the story or the context behind a story. But every story that I report on, I'm diving so deep that I learn even more about something that I didn't know about. Maybe I uncover a new law or, you know, I uncover some historical contexts that I didn't know before. And I just. My views are always. They're kind of just. They're very fluid. And the more I learn, the more they kind of, yeah, change. I guess it's always changing because I'm always open to learning more and educating myself more. And. Yeah, next one. Where did you work before you started your podcast? So I was a lawyer. I. I was in insurance defense. I do not recommend any. Anyone work in insurance events. It is quite dull. I hated it. And I. I quit my job in October 2019 after. No, October 2020, after, I think, 10 months of practicing. I was not in it very long. I just knew it wasn't for me. And I think there's a question later about law school and, you know, like, how I knew what I wanted to do. So we'll Talk about this more when we get there. But, yeah, I was working in insurance defense as a lawyer, and then I. I had a cookie company for a little bit during COVID with my. With my sister. That was fun. And then, gosh, what did I do? So we stopped doing that. And then I went and worked for a sole practitioner. It was this guy who handled a variety of legal issues. He was just one attorney that worked for himself. And so I was helping him draft motions and stuff and do things like that. And then I started social media, and it was tough there for a while. I did not make any money, but eventually I made it my livelihood. So I was a lawyer before. This is the short answer. Do you get more positive or negative feedback on your podcast? Way more positive. So what I always like to tell people, because people will read my comments, especially like family members, and they'll be like, jordan, how do you deal with this? How do you, you know, how do you deal with the constant negativity? And I always tell them, you should see my inbox. Like, the people in the comments aren't necessarily people tuning into the show. They're not people who are open to. To this kind of thing. And so they're kind of just people that are spewing their opinions online without really. I don't know, like, they're just not. They're not the podcast listeners. They're just random people online who want to share their opinions. And when you open my inbox, it's. It's all listeners, basically. And they're so positive, and it's just so great. Yeah, I definitely get much more positive feedback than. Than negative feedback, which is amazing. How much do you talk politics in your personal life? Someone also asked, are you outspoken about your political views in your personal life? So I talk about politics when it comes up. I definitely don't. I'm not one of those people that, you know, brings up politics at any given moment because I. It's my life. So I. I don't talk about it a lot. I would say when it gets brought up mostly with my husband or my family members, I try not to talk about politics with. With just like everyday people. I mean, yeah, I would say I never do that. And if I do do that, it's a very. It's very much in a way that I would talk about it on the show. It's just more of a educational way than expressing my own personal opinions with my family. I. I'm outspoken, but I'm not. I'm not loud, and I'm Not. I'm not really the initiator, you know what I mean? So I'm not. I'm not the one bringing up politics at the table. But if they do get brought up, yeah, I certainly, you know, talk. Talk about how I feel about certain things. And I think too, what's funny is people now, now that I have the show, they, you know, they trust my knowledge. And so it's not really. More often than not, I'm the most informed person in the room. And so, yeah, there's. There's not really much of debate because people just kind of take what I say and trust that I. I don't know know what I'm talking about. Sorry, I just gotta fix my lighting in here. Something feels off. Hold on. Okay, let's see. What kind of wellness practices do you partake in to stay healthy and grounded? Well, I try to be active. I'm definitely not. I'm not a person who's working out every day of the week, let alone five days a week or four days a week. I think I go in spurts. So I'll be really into working out and then I'll fall off and then I'll get back into it. But I try to be, you know, relatively active. I love the beach. The beach is somewhere that I've always loved to go. I have. I have an autoimmune condition called psoriasis. Most of you may know about it. I feel like it's pretty popular. And I go to the beach because nothing helps my psoriasis like salt water and the sun. And so, yeah, I love going to the beach. It's very relaxing for me. But I also, now that I'm getting older, try to protect my skin. So, you know, it's a. It's a give and take there a little bit. But, yeah, I love the beach. I would consider that a wellness practice because it. It does really ground me. And then what other wellness practices? I mean, sometimes, like, if I get really overwhelmed, I'll make an effort to end my nights with the red light. I have the hatch alarm clock and there's this red light feature on there. So I'll do that and listen to some peaceful sounds. My diet, I eat a pretty clean diet. Again, because of the psoriasis. I try to be really careful about what I eat and what I put in my body. So I would say those are some of the wellness practices that I partake in.
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Jordan (Podcast Host)
What is the hardest part of your job and what's your favorite? The hardest part of the job is just how on top of it, I have to be. Like, I kind of always have to know what's going on. I do feel that I do a good job at shutting off if I'm not prepping for an episode or, or compiling content. But there's always still this feeling of needing, needing to be in the know. Don't love that. I would, I would love to totally disconnect from, from politics because just like politics stress a lot of you out. It they. Politics also stresses me out. But yeah, I would say the hardest part. And also, I don't know, I don't want to say how much I work because I do work a lot. I definitely work more than the average. But also, I don't like saying that because I chose this job. So I don't know, I don't like to complain about how much I work or how hard I work because this is, this is what I choose to do. You know, My favorite part is when I hear from you guys about how much you love the show, it just totally fills my cup. It reminds me why I do what I do. It reminds me why I work so hard. And it, yeah, it just reminds me that what I'm providing is, is so beneficial to so many people and that definitely keeps me going. It's definitely my favorite part. How did you and your husband meet? There was a lot of these questions. There was a lot of these questions. And also, what does your husband do? A lot of you guys wanted to know that too, so we'll take the first one. How did you and your husband meet? So I was in law school. I got an internship. Well, actually, we gotta go back. So I used to nanny for this family when I was 17. I think and the dad of that family was a managing partner at a really big law firm in my state. And he was the one who kind of pushed me to go to law school. And he said to me, you know, like, you'll have a job with me if, if you go to law school. You don't have to. You don't have to worry about that. And so I had no idea what else I was gonna do, and I decided to go to law school. And in. I think it was the first summer. Yeah, first summer of law school, I got an internship at his law firm. And I met one of the attorneys there was younger, just a few years older than me. And the. The most of the attorneys that were older. So this attorney was younger. And I actually. I actually had a crush on this attorney. And so we started hanging out on the weekends with, like, groups of friends. And my husband, now husband, was his. This attorney's best friend and roommate. And at the time, I was, you know, I was trying to be creative. I was like, I'm going to set up my now husband with my friend at the time, because then we could do double dates and I could go out with this attorney. I could set his friend up with my friend, and da, da, da, da. And. Yeah. And then one thing led to the next, and I realized my husband was absolutely the winner out of the two. He's just, like, amazing in every way. He's funny. His sense of humor is what really. I mean, he's. He's also, you know, successful and attractive and all these other things, but his sense of humor is what won me over. I was always laughing with him. I thought he was like, the funniest person ever. And, yeah, that's how. Long story short, we. We ended up together. And it's been how many? Eight years now. So. All right, next one. What does your husband do? He sells boats. He sells yachts. So he actually, he has a. He has a pretty cool job.
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He.
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Most of his business is based in Florida, but he also sells boats overseas. So every now and then he, you know, goes to Italy, where a lot of the. The shipyards are and manufacturers, and every now and then I'll get to go with him. And that's definitely a huge perk of his job, and it's a lot of fun. So, yeah, he. He sells boats. Favorite place and top five places you've traveled to. So my favorite place is. And these are. I'm putting them in two separate categories because they're. They're different. So my favorite place is in Northern Michigan. It is a small town called Charlevoix. And this is somewhere that I've gone with my family since I was born. I mean, my dad was going before I was born. He's been going since he was born. And it's just become the most nostalgic place for me and most amazing place for me. And that's where. I don't know, I just. That I correlate Charlevoix with my family and amazing memories, and it's beautiful. Northern Michigan is so pretty. For those of you that know northern Michigan, I know there's a. There's some of you out there that are either from northern Michigan or have gone. It is such an amazing place. And I think, you know, Michigan gets overlooked a lot, but it's actually so beautiful. And so I would say that's my favorite place. But top five places I've traveled to. I haven't really traveled internationally a lot. Like, when I was younger, we used to go to the Bahamas because it was. It was close by. And then ever since being with my husband, we do travel more, I would say, but not. Not a lot. So we actually did our biggest trip. I mean, with him, I've been to Italy because of his job. We've also been to Turkey because of his job. But we did one big trip in 2024. Yeah, 2024, I think. And. And we started in London, and then we went to Switzerland and then Croatia and then Italy and then home. And it was so amazing. So I would say, I mean, it's hard to pick five, because I feel like I've. I've really only been to, like, five or six other countries. But of that trip, I would say that Switzerland and Croatia were my favorite, even though I loved. I loved London, too. We. We went to the city of London as well as the, like, outskirts of London. I'm trying to remember what that's called. You know, like, the farm. The farm area of. Of London. What. What is that called? I can't remember the specific town that we went to, but anyway, the countryside, the English countryside, that's what I was looking for. So, yeah, Switzerland and Croatia were my two favorites in that trip. And then. Oh, and I guess, if we're getting specific, I loved Bern, Switzerland. Thought that that was such a cool place. And then we also did Grindelwald, which. Grindelwald is beautiful, but it was a little too touristy, I think. So, yeah, I liked. I. I loved Burn, though. And then in Croatia, we did Split, which was so cool. And we also did a smaller Town. Oh, gosh. What was it called? I'm not gonna be able to remember the name of the city, but the hotel we stayed at was called Villa Nye. And my. My husband actually found it. It was so, such a cool place. It was this. So it was built on an olive farm. I feel like I can't even formulate my thoughts right now. But it was built on where they grow olive trees. Why? I feel like I sound so dumb right now. It was built where. Yeah, where. Where olive trees grow. And it was built into this hillside. You can look it up. It's called Villa Nye. Villa N A I. And it was just so beautiful. It was such a cool place. And you had to take like, we had to fly to Croatia and then take a car to this other city and then take a boat over to this island. So it's definitely tough to get to, but it was well worth it. It was very, very, very beautiful. Oh, and we went to Hvar. Hvar is off the coast of Split. So when you go to Split, you can. You can take ferries to the various islands off of Split. Hvar is one of those islands. And we did this four wheeler island tour where it was just my husband and I. We didn't have a guide or anything. They basically just give you this QR code, you scan it and a map comes up on your phone and you follow. And it took us all day. And there's like spots on the map that you stop off at, like little secret beaches and stuff and little towns. And that was really, really cool. So, okay, next one. How many kids do you want? I don't know. We're going to see how this first one goes and we're going to go from there. I do have. I do have. I grew up with two siblings, and so I feel like I would want some. Something similar. I feel like you always want what you grew up with. But yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. We're gonna see how this one goes and then maybe we'll see how two goes and then maybe see how three goes and we'll. We'll kind of play it by ear. What made you want to become a lawyer? I didn't really want to become a lawyer. The reason I feel like this question should be, what made you want to go to law school? Because I went to law school thinking that I was guaranteed to, you know, make good money when I got out and I could have. So the firm that I took an internship, that was the. The family Friends or the family that I nannied for their firm. I, I could have gone into that if I wanted to. It wasn't really my thing. I didn't like the area of the law. And so I applied for other jobs when I graduated and, and got a job in insurance defense. And I don't know why. I just assumed that lawyers automatically make well above, you know, six figures or above when they graduate. That was not the case for me. And so I think I just went into it for the wrong reasons. I didn't go into law school because I wanted to, you know, be a certain type of lawyer or do a certain type of thing. I just was like, I don't know what else I'm going to do. I'm currently, I graduated college, I took a year off. During that year off, I was a waitress, I was a nanny, and I was working retail at Michael Kors all at the same time. And I just was like, I have no idea what else I'm gonna do. So I took the LSAT last minute, I applied to law school last minute, I got in and I was like, okay, I guess this is what I'm gonna do. So I didn't really have, have any desire to become a lawyer outside of the financial part of it, which is definitely not a good motivating factor. Next one. If you hadn't gone to law school, where do you think you'd be right now? I don't know. I, I don't know truthfully. Like I, as I just said, I was working three jobs. I had, I had a lot of ambition, but not a lot of direction. I probably would have ended up in entrepreneurship one way or the other. I just kind of always gravitated towards that. So I guess, I guess that's what I would say. I would have, I would have. I, I had a lot of entrepreneurial attempts growing up. I mean, dating back to college. I created an app when I was in college. I, I was always, I always had ideas. And so I think, you know, something would have stuck eventually. So I guess I would say entrepreneurship somehow, some way. Do you still have your law license? Why did you stop practicing? Okay, well, I, this is a tough question because I actually think I'm, I am non compliant right now with my law license. I think I'm behind on my CLE credits, which are these things that you have to do to keep up your license. I go back and forth with this every year. When it comes time to renew, I just don't know. I have no interest in ever practicing Law again, I don't know that I ever will. And so I always wonder whether it's even worth it to keep up with, because it is. There's an annual fee to keep up with it. There's also these CLE requirements you have to meet where you have to take courses and all that stuff. And so for me, I just kind of go back and forth whether I still even need it, so that's that. Why did I stop practicing? I stopped practicing because I hated practicing. I. Between the billable hours. So basically, billable hours, you have a certain number of billable hours that you have to meet when you are a lawyer. And basically that means you are billing your client x amount of time to work on whatever it is. So if you're drafting a motion, you have to log the amount of hours or minutes that you worked on that motion. If you're going. If you're on a phone call with a client, you have to log those. Those hours and. Or those minutes. And it just gets to be a lot. And there's so many little things that you can't bill for that you end up working so much more because you have to meet this billable hour requirement. But then you have so many other things you're doing that don't fall into the, like, don't count towards the requirement. It's just. It's. It's a. It's not a good time. And then also, opposing counsel always sucked. I just hated working with other lawyers. I'm sure there's a ton of great lawyers that listen to the show, but I. Yeah, opposing counsel, they were always just. They were always kind of. I don't know, they never treated you right. It's almost like the law profession generally is miserable. So everyone's just miserable and everyone's taking it out on each other. Not good. And then also the firm I was at was very. Just. It was a mess. They were disorganized. They were constantly missing deadlines on things. They. It wasn't a good situation. Yeah, it just wasn't. So that's why I stopped practicing. What religion, if any, do you identify with? So I grew up Jewish, but also Catholic. Kind of. My upbringing was a little complicated with this. So my dad is Jewish, though he doesn't really practice. My mom was Catholic. She converted when she married my dad, so she always kind of took her traditions into the marriage, despite converting. So, like, we would always still do Christmas, we would do Easter, but we never went to church. It was always Hebrew school and Sunday school for Judaism and Then I actually got bat mitzvahed when I was 13, but then after that we kind of just fell off. Like my, we never, as a family, we never really did Shabbat. We never really, you know, celebrated the, the holidays like Passover and stuff like that. So it's kind of a complicated religious upbringing, I would say. And it's at the point now where I don't fully identify with one or the other or. Yeah, I, I mean I, I still say I'm Jewish because I, I had a bat Mitzvah and you know, that's what I grew up with. But I don't currently practice and I don't know that I would raise my kids Jewish. My husband grew up Catholic and his, his family is pretty Catholic. Like they still, you know, go to church. His, his parents especially still go to church and stuff. So I, Yeah, I don't know. That's, it's a complicated question and answer. What type of extracurriculars did you do as a kid? Band, sports, etc? Well, growing up we had a rule where we had to do at least two sports. I don't know if it was two sports a year or if it was something each sports season.
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So we grew up doing a lot of sports.
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I specifically played soccer at one point. Didn't love it. Tried softball. My mom made me try softball. I hated it. I did gymnastics, I did basketball for a long time. I played basketball for a while and then flag football I got into when I was, I want to say 13. And I kept that up through going into high school. I played on the freshman, we had a freshman girls flag football team at high school in high school. And then after that I stopped playing. I played the clarinet in fifth grade and I think that's pretty much, I think that's pretty much it for my extracurriculars, but we were definitely a sports heavy household. I've told you guys this before, but
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So I have a team of agents who help me with, you know, securing brand partnerships and getting, making merch or doing public speaking events, stuff like that. I also have a podcast network that does all of my ad sales so that they handle all of that for me. And then I also have a manager who we kind of just talk about like day to day strategy and where I want the platform to go and, you know, kind of try to get creative with branding and all of that. So one woman show when it comes to the show, for the most part, but not necessarily when it comes to the people behind the scenes and brand strategy and brand partnerships and sponsorships and things like that. Next one. How did you know what you wanted to major in or do after school? I didn't. When, when I went to college, I majored in business because that's just what I thought everyone does. And then when I graduated, I had no idea what I wanted to do. Like I said, I worked three different jobs, had no clear direction, knew I wanted to do something mostly entrepreneurial, but really didn't know where to take it. So yeah, I didn't, I didn't really ever know what I wanted to do until I found this. And then I would say I. It made sense for me. Like I was like, okay, now I know why everything in my life kind of worked out the way that it did because I truly feel that I'm meant to be doing this. But it certainly took a lot of trial and error for sure. What do you do for fun? Someone also asked, if you had more hobbies, what would they be? Okay, so I actually wrote these down because I tend to not be able to think of like hobbies off the top of my head. I don't know why I've always had this problem. So the beach I talked about earlier, love going to the beach. I love binge watching shows. I am the. I'll binge Watch harder than probably anyone, you know, new restaurants. I'm such a foodie. I love good food. I love trying new things. I am a bit bougie when it comes to food. I will say, like, I'm not just gonna eat sushi from anywhere. Okay. The sushi has to be from somewhere good. I do like a good high end restaurant. I do like an experience with the food. So I would say I like trying new restaurants. But yeah, I, I do tend to be a little bit bougie when it comes to the food. I love to travel, I love to do DIY projects. So my husband and I have done a DIY renovation in our guest bathroom. We've done our master bedroom. I feel like there's. Oh, my office. I did my whole office. And yeah, I love diy like Renault projects, like that. And then scrapbooking. I love to scrapbook. So every year I make my. It's really for my husband and I, but it's what I give him on our anniversary. Every year I make a scrapbook of that whole year. So now like at this point, I think we have eight scrapbooks, I guess. And each scrapbook is for, you know, one year of our relationship. And that's been something I've really loved to do. My mom used to scrapbook. I think I got that from her. If I had more time, I would definitely travel more. I love traveling. I feel like I don't travel enough. I would love to go to Japan. I would like. There's just so many places that I would love to see. So I would love to travel more if I had more time and I guess I would love to read more. I love reading. I love the way it kind of like lets you escape reality a little bit. But I never find the time for it and I think if I had more time, I would, I would definitely spend more time reading. Do you have brothers or sisters? Yes. So I have, I have a sister and a brother that I grew up with. We are very close. And then I have. So my dad remarried and I have two younger siblings. I have an 8 year old brother and a 6 year old sister. They are. I'm just like, I. I just love my whole family. I just, I feel really lucky that I love my whole family. But yeah, it's. I never would have thought like, if you would have asked me when I was 16, do you think you'll have more siblings? I would have said no way. But life has a funny way of working out and things changing and it's been the greatest blessing and yeah, so I have four siblings in total. A younger brother, an older brother, younger sister, two younger sisters, but one is much younger. And then. Do you have any pets? I don't, but I grew up with dogs, so I'll definitely get a dog at some point. I just don't know when. I got to get this kid thing figured out first, you know, and then we can talk about dogs. But I don't currently have any pets. I grew up with, oh, what did I. Okay, so our first dog was a Samoyed. Then we got a husky. We had a miniature pinscher at one point, a boxer. And then I grew up with like hamsters. I feel like all kids go through that phase which now that I'm older, I'm like, oh. But yeah, so I've always had pets. I just don't have any right now. But I will definitely eventually get a dog. What's your favorite food? What is my favorite food? It is sushi. Sushi. Sushi. Sushi. So long as it's quality sushi. Okay. I'm very particular with my sushi. Like I said, I won't go to a hole in the wall, but I love sushi. Omakase, specifically. Love it. Omakase is when you go in the. The chef just kind of like makes you courses. You sit at the bar. It's usually kind of an intimate setting with you know, maybe like six, eight, ten people. And the chef serves everyone the same dish. And it could be anywhere from 18 to 22 courses. That's my absolute favorite. I love sushi. What is your favorite binge worthy TV show or documentary? Okay. I wrote this down because I knew I was not going to be able to recall these shows off the top of my head. But this is not an exhaustive list of shows. Like this is just shows that I was thinking about that I had to write down. The Affair is probably one of my husband and I's all time favorite shows that is very binge worthy. Gossip Girl is my show when I want to just kind of go back in time. I love a good Gossip Girl binge session. Sex in the City is my show. When my husband's out of town, I'll just kind of have it on in the background. Big little lies my husband and I love. Or loved, I should say. I think they're coming out with a new season though. White Lotus, Amazing Scandal, great one. I haven't watched it in a few years, but I did say while I'm on maternity leave I want my husband to watch it. He never watched it and I'd be more than happy to binge Scandal again. Shameless was such a good show and there's so many seasons that I feel like that's such a good binge worthy. 11923 Yellowstone succession, breaking Bad. My husband recently had me. What? He watched it years and years ago, but he recently had me start it. And it was. It's a pretty good show. We actually haven't finished it yet, but definitely binge worthy. And then Silo is a really good show. I just recently watched 1122 63, which is with James Franco. It's about JFK's assassination. And it was really cool the way that they did that show. I would recommend, I definitely recommend. And then a lot of people always ask if I like the show Suits. So here's what I'll say. If you are a lawyer, suits isn't really. It's just, it's kind of like a doctor watching, like, Grey's Anatomy or, I don't know, er. I think is, is that show about the medical field. It's just like, not really realistic when you know how law life works. And so, yeah, I've never gotten into Suits. I tried, I tried, but never got into it. What is something you think your podcast listeners would be surprised to learn about you? I am very sarcastic. Okay. Like, I'm very sarcastic. And I, I, I do, I do cuss a lot. Okay. And I know some of you are probably like, don't do that. That's not good. It's. You should be more ladylike. I don't know why I am this way. Okay. I don't know. I don't know how I got this way. I don't know why I am this way. My mom always yells at me for it. But, yeah, it's just, just a me thing. You know, it's what makes me me. So, yeah, I think those two things people would be surprised to, to learn what is one small goal for yourself in the next year and one big goal in the next three to five years. I really liked this question and I wrote down my goals because I knew I wouldn't be able to think of them as I'm speaking right now. My small goal in the next year is just to somehow manage motherhood and, and work without losing my mind. Okay. And like, figuring out how to do it. Because as I said earlier, I do feel like I work a lot. And I don't know, I think it can go a bunch of different ways. Like, am I gonna feel guilty for working so much Am I gonna feel like I need to scale back, but like, I can't really scale back. And so I think just figuring out how to manage both and doing both, I don't know if successfully is the right word or like reasonably or practically, whatever, whatever the word is, I do. That is a goal of mine, to figure out how to manage both motherhood and, and work. And then my big goal for the next three to five years is to be able to scale this business to the point where I can step back a little bit and enjoy my family a little bit more. I have a really hard time delegating. I'm not good at it. And I think especially, you know, in what I, in what I do, it's so hard. It is so hard for people to be neutral and unbiased and truly not care. What, like, the reason why I am so good at what I do is because I don't care where any of you stand. I don't care have any interest in swaying you one way or the other. I don't care if you have a completely different viewpoint than me. Like, it just, it, it does not matter to me. And I think that that is why I am so good at this. But a lot of people can't say that. A lot of people do care and a lot of people do have an interest in convincing people to see their side of things. And so I've, I've found that it's really hard to find people that share the same sense of passion for unbiased news. And so for that reason it's been, it's been harder to scale the business. But I do hope that one day I can do that because I think the amount that I work isn't, it's just not something that's reasonable long term. And so I definitely need to figure that out. But that would be my, my long term goal. And Those are the 25 questions. Okay. So I personally really like doing this. I hope you learned some things about me and now you know the girl behind the mic a little bit better. I, again, I just want to say as we close out this unbiased series, I am so thankful that you've decided to tune in. Whether you've tuned into all what I think we had, 16, 17 episodes, something like that. Whether you've tuned into all of them or you just managed to catch a few, I appreciate you supporting me during this time that I've had to. Well, I guess I was going to say that I had to be away, but I did want to be away. It's obviously important to, you know, take this time to be with my husband and my baby and family and all those things. So I really appreciate you. Thank you for being here, and I will talk to you soon.