Transcript
Soo Jin Pak (0:02)
Lemonade.
Ai Jen Poo (0:08)
For as long as I can remember, people who have been talking about this aging demographic shift have compared it to natural disasters of different sorts, like the Silver tsunami, the age wave. Like, there's so many metaphors that I've read.
Soo Jin Pak (0:25)
I'm like, wow, this is. Someone's had a lot of fun with, with the. The imagery of this doom, right, that's coming.
Ai Jen Poo (0:32)
And it's always some kind of major natural disaster. And I think the only way that it's a disaster is. Is actually man made. It's unnatural. This is an opportunity, a massive opportunity for a long overdue culture change.
Soo Jin Pak (0:52)
This is uncared for. I'm your host, Soo Jin. Pakistan. As a country, we are older than we've ever been. One out of six Americans are over 65, and that number is only expected to increase over the next few decades. So how are we going to care for everyone? Especially when family caregivers and professional care workers alike are already stretched thin? Our guests today believe we have to change the way we value caregiving to see it as the backbone of our country, the literal infrastructure holding everything up, and then we need to invest in it. We'll hear from Katrina Mouzon, a professional care worker. She knows firsthand how low wages and long hours take a toll on caregivers.
Katrina Mouzon (1:43)
It'll burn you out because your clients need you and more clients need you. So I'll probably work like 70 hours a week.
Soo Jin Pak (1:52)
But first, we'll turn the mic back to AI Jen Poo, who you heard from up top. AI Jen is the president of the National Domestic Workers alliance and author of the Age of Preparing for the Elder Boom in a Changing America. She knows the ins and outs of the problems stacked against caregivers today and the long overdue policy solutions we need to support them. So can you give me a sense of the scale around how much older we are becoming as a country and what this means, like, what is at stake? Because they're not just numbers, right?
Ai Jen Poo (2:34)
That's right.
Soo Jin Pak (2:34)
Can you talk about that? Yeah.
Ai Jen Poo (2:35)
The big picture there, basically what has happened is we today, 10,000 people will turn 65 and 10,000 babies will be born, give or take. And we have experienced such advances in healthcare and technology that people are living longer than we ever could have imagined. We have more generations to care for and less care to offer because most people, most adults work outside of the home just to make ends meet. So we've got 53 million overstretched working family caregivers, more than 7 million underpaid professional care workers. This social worker named Jessica Calarco often says other countries have a safety net, and the US has women because the overwhelming number of those family caregivers are women. And the overwhelming number of the professional care workers are also women and majority women of color. So we are in a situation where we are a country that needs more care than ever before, and we have less of it. Women and women of color are filling the gaps, and it's completely unsustainable.
