在這一集的 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast 中，我們展開一場有點不一樣的對話——這次的起點，不是來自職場上的連結，而是來自一段更貼近生活的人際關係。（English Below)

在這集以中文為主的節目中，我們邀請到的來賓是魚魚老師，她曾是主持人 Jeffrey 女兒的幼兒園老師。當我們得知她即將離開教職，踏上一條全新的道路——進入室內設計領域時，也引發了一個問題：

👉 當我們像「離水之魚」一樣跳出舒適圈，去迎接新的挑戰時，那會是什麼樣的感受？

在這段對話中，Jeffrey、Miranda 和魚魚老師，一起探索轉換跑道所帶來的不確定性、重新成為新手所需要的勇氣，以及在全然陌生的環境中，如何面對那種「格格不入」的感覺。

我們談到她對教學的熱愛、個人價值與家庭期待之間的拉扯，以及那些看似安靜卻深具力量的練習——像是寫日記，如何幫助她在過程中持續與自己保持連結。

在對話的過程中，我們也輕鬆地延伸到「小費包」的哲學，並一起思考：當我們逐漸長大，該如何持續學習、成長，並勇敢地挑戰自己。

這是一段關於轉變、關於自我認同，以及關於那些夾在其中的過渡空間的故事——在這些空間裡，「不確定」始終扮演著重要的角色。

🔗連結：

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In this episode of the Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast, we step into a different kind of conversation—one that begins not from a professional network, but from personal connections. On today's Chinese-language episode, our guest, 魚魚老師, was the previous preschool teacher to the daughter of one of our hosts, Jeffrey. When we learned she would be leaving teaching to pursue a new path in interior design, it sparked questions:

👉 What does it feel like to suddenly jump out our zone of comfort to pursue new challenges, like a fish out of water?

In this conversation, Jeffrey, Miranda, and 魚魚老師 explore the Uncertainty of changing careers, the courage it takes to become a beginner again, and what it means to feel like a “fish out of water” in a completely new environment. We talk about her love for teaching, the tension between personal values and family expectations, and the quiet practices—like journaling—that help her stay connected to herself along the way. Along the journey, we even take a playful detour into the philosophy of 小費包, and reflect on what it means to keep learning, growing, and challenging ourselves as we get older.

This is a story about transition, identity, and the spaces in between—where Uncertainty plays a major role.

🔗Links:

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Uncertain Fish Out of Water: 不確定的離水之魚 （中文為主）

Uncertain Fish Out of Water: 不確定的離水之魚（中文為主）