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What does it mean to move through the world at a human pace? To ramble and wander and chat up strangers in real life?

This week, we sit down with writer Isaac Fitzgerald to talk about his new book American Rambler and what happens when you decide to walk across America and follow in the footsteps of Johnny Appleseed.

These great American yappers get into the idea that midlife is a second coming-of-age, why wandering might be the antidote to our screen-obsessed lives, and how the definition of “adventure” changes when you’re not twenty anymore. Spoiler: It gets better.