About That Jackie Aina Video...

Summary

Detailed Summary of "Unhinged & Immoral" Episode: About That Jackie Aina Video...

Release Date: December 10, 2024
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans | Diamond MPrint Productions

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1. Introduction and Context

In this special episode of Unhinged & Immoral, hosts Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans delve into a recent controversy involving beauty influencer Jackie Aina. The episode deviates from their usual format to address a specific incident where Jackie Aina released a video seemingly directed at Jamila Bell, prompting a significant online discussion.

Jamila Bell begins the episode by highlighting the purpose of this discussion:

"...yesterday there was a video made by Jackie Aina to which she was addressing some... her feelings towards certain creators. But it was very obvious that the video was directed towards me because she said, and I quote, I don't know her name, but I know she's light-skinned and looks like Taraji B. Henson..."
— [00:03]

2. Unpacking Jackie Aina's Video

Jamila explains that Jackie's video criticized certain creators, including herself, labeling them as "mean girls" and part of a group known as the "Super 5." This sparked a conversation on TikTok about alleged dog-piling behaviors among these creators.

Mecca Evans reacts to the mention of being compared to Taraji P. Henson:

"A compliment of the highest order."
— [00:43]

Jamila responds by sharing her experiences and clarifying misconceptions:

"...she feels like because she has a larger platform, she's held to a higher standard. And I think that's an unfair thing to say considering this video is aiding in a dog pile..."
— [00:43]

3. Historical Interactions and Blocking on TikTok

The hosts recount past interactions with Jackie Aina, particularly focusing on incidents where both parties blocked each other on TikTok. Jamila emphasizes that the narrative Jackie's video promotes was not initiated by her.

Jamila plays excerpts from her previous videos addressing Jackie:

"...telling everybody not to call you auntie is a very auntie thing to do. That's all I'm saying. And I just think that's funny..."
— [03:57]

"...she's a strict bitch. Now, let me say in full retrospect..."
— [09:26]

Mecca Evans adds her perspective on being blocked:

"I went and checked, and I was blocked, and I made a video chuckling about it. I probably said, bitch."
— [12:05]

4. Analysis of Content and Perceptions

Jamila addresses the allegations made by Jackie Aina regarding age-shaming and bullying. She defends her content style, emphasizing her multifaceted approach that includes political commentary, comedic skits, and discussions on health disparities.

"...the way we talk. And to me, that was accounting... all I did was say, you cut the scene..."
— [15:00]

She further elaborates on her content diversity:

"...I make political content, talking about the inequities between race, class, and gender. I'm a doula... I create skits about funny things..."
— [22:09]

5. Response to Accusations and Intentions

Jamila challenges Jackie Aina's portrayal of her actions, questioning the accuracy and intent behind Jackie's accusations. She argues that Jackie exploited a misunderstanding to shape a negative narrative about her.

"...I don't think it's fair for you to take a 20-second clip and create a narrative of what my content is."
— [16:37]

Jamila invites Jackie to a constructive dialogue, emphasizing the importance of conversation over conflict:

"I have that open invitation to you. I would love to talk to you more. I would love to leave this where it is because I don't think it's productive for two black women to be talking like this when we could be elevating."
— [31:51]

6. Apologies and Moving Forward

Towards the episode's conclusion, both hosts extend apologies to Jackie Aina. Jamila acknowledges the abrasive nature of her online persona and clarifies that no malice was intended.

"I do want to offer an apology because I think it's only fair. I do want to apologize for the perception of how I engage with you online..."
— [25:57]

Jackie Aina reciprocates by apologizing for specific comments made about Jamila's content, aiming to resolve the tension:

"...I'm sorry. I apologize for saying the bottles were ugly."
— [25:57]

The conversation concludes with mutual respect and a desire to move beyond the conflict:

"...we apologize for whatever feelings our content has stirred up in you..."
— [28:44]

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Conclusion

This episode of Unhinged & Immoral offers an in-depth look into the complexities of online interactions and the impact of content creation on personal relationships. Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans address accusations head-on, providing context and clarity while maintaining a stance toward reconciliation and understanding. The hosts emphasize the importance of dialogue and mutual respect, especially among influential figures in the digital space.

For listeners unfamiliar with the episode, this summary encapsulates the key discussions, highlighting the challenges of maintaining professionalism and authenticity in the dynamic landscape of social media and influencer culture.

Transcript

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, so welcome to another episode of Unhinged and more. This is obviously very special episode. This is outside of our regular schedule programming. So I'm going to cut right to the chase because I really don't want to be here long. So yesterday there was a video made by Jackie Aina to which she was addressing some, I guess you could say, her feelings towards certain creators. But it was very obvious that the video was directed towards me because she said, and I quote, I don't know her name, but I know she's light skinned and looks like Taraji B. Henson. If you don't know, I've been called Taraji P. Henson.

[Mecca Evans]

A compliment of the highest order.

[Jackie Aina]

Taraji.

[Jamila Bell]

You know, right. I've been called Taraji Journey, Journey Smollett and Tisha Campbell pretty much my whole life. So with as soon as she said that, I knew the video was about me. So I did watch the entire 8 minute video multiple times because I wanted to make sure I could address every point and in detail. So the first thing I want to start with is she said something along the lines of she's not a fan of dog piling and she feels like because she has a larger platform, she's held to a higher standard. And I think that's an unfair thing to say considering this video is aiding in a dog pile. Because you have to put into perspective the videos that she's referencing that I made were made months prior. So as of right now, if you haven't really been tapped into Tick Tock, I'll do a brief intermission to kind of explain where all this is coming from. Over the past couple of days, weeks even, there's been this narrative being spun about me, Mecca and a few of our other mutuals and that we are mean girls, we are cliquey, we've even been called the Super 5 at some point. And everybody is honestly having different people who they want to interject into the Super 5, essentially saying that we are a group of creators that engage in dogpiling of others. That narrative has been spread across the app and I've softly addressed it, but not fully because I honestly felt like it was. There was no face to it, it was just people talking. So I really didn't give too much attention to it. I laughed with it because, I mean, if you want to call me a Super 5, then I'm just gonna joke with it because I just don't care that much. So because that is currently being talked about and that is currently trending on Tick Tock, Jackie took it upon herself to interject herself into the conversation and say, well as a matter of fact, I've also had run ins with this one specific creator and her other followers so it makes sense that they are all friends because she's had quote unquote negative interactions with all of us. So I want to start off by saying, actually I'm gonna play my first video. I've only ever made three videos about Jackie Aina to date. I've only ever made three. The first video I made was in reference to Auntie Gate, if you remember. So a couple of months ago there was conversation about people calling Jackie Aina auntie. As you know, colloquially speaking black people call other black people or you know, women aunties if they're a certain age. Just kind of like as a term of endearment or whatever. And people were calling her auntie like on the slide. Jackie has since said that she doesn't like it for her own reasons and you can kind of go see what those reasons are. And she said she doesn't like it, she doesn't like people call her auntie. And because of that, I guess people continue to call her auntie and she then essentially kind of started blocking people for calling her that. And that was her essentially keeping to what she called her boundary. So this is the first video I made. I'm just going to play the audio, the visual isn't important so that you can see essentially what exactly I said in reference to that situation.

[Unnamed Speaker]

I'm just saying, I'm just saying telling everybody not to call you auntie is a very auntie thing to do. That's all I'm saying. And I just think that's funny. You know what's real lame? Getting on here and telling us. So I literally got blocked by insert name. Girl, you are so excited to be blocked. Like you are so excited to be blocked. Girl, if you don't gone somewhere. As somebody who is approaching 30, I can definitely understand you being like, have.

[Jamila Bell]

You seen my child?

[Unnamed Speaker]

Because damn, it's like I graduated high school 10 years ago. It's definitely a weird, a weird thing. But at the same token, like I don't wish I was still 18, I'm so happy to be almost 28. You know, like you gotta just sit in it and even if your childhood passed you by, it doesn't take away the opportunity for you to live life. But we are getting old and that's, as the old folks say, a blessing. Uh huh, Amen. But also blocking people for calling you auntie. I'm not mad at it. I once blocked a bitch because she said she didn't get the joke that I said on here. Well, get your unfunny ass up on out of here, ho. So you know what I'm saying? To each its own. To each its own.

[Mecca Evans]

I have also. So I was not as meticulous as Jamila in terms of going to find the videos. I make seven videos a day and I've had TikTok for four years. I simply did not have the gusto to do all that scrolling. But I was also taught, if you talk shit, you remember the things you say. Something that I'm known for saying is spirit of Jackie Aina on me, right? And that's because, as Jameela referenced in her video, we block people if we don't like what you say. If you don't get the joke that was not said with malice intent. It's more of a compliment. And to what I said about the auntie conversation, I'm someone who believes in changing your thoughts at the very top. Because this happened within the last two years. Because I remember this was before I started my business. I was still working at another spot. So it's been about two years. I didn't get it at first. I definitely didn't make a video like, oh, this is not a big deal. And then as time has got on, I have literally referenced the very first video I made and said, hey, as we inch closer to 30 now, shit, you said you was almost 28, bitch. We almost 29 now. I still don't think it's a big deal, but I see where Jackie was coming from. You guys say it to be shady. You guys say it to try and make it a job. My thoughts are changing because I'm keeping on living and I'm seeing and I see where she's coming from. All this has also been said in real time, right?

[Jamila Bell]

And so I wanted to play that because, again, like I said, I don't want. If you're gonna reference something that I said about you, Jackie, then I want everybody to see exactly what you're talking about. So I'll start there. This narrative of you blocking people is not something that I created. This is something that's been started way before I even made a video about you. It's. It's known that if you say something kind of shady towards Jackie, that Jackie's going to block you. That's not a bad thing. And I've always said that. I don't think that's an issue as a matter of fact, I think it's commendable that you just block somebody instead of going back and forth. I think that's what should have been done in this entire Super 5 situation. But I'll move on past that. You said in your video, you know, I couldn't tell you her name. All I could tell you is that she's light skinned and looks like Taraji Hinton. And what I say to that is Jackie Shade. No, Shade. I. I know that you were trying to be funny when you did that. Even though I do. I, I understand that a lot of people say that I do look like Taraji B. Henson. However, I do recognize Shade when I hear it, so I'm not gonna let you. I know it was. I know you was trying to be shady because if you can remember which, you've blocked me for several months now that I remember, you remember that I look like Taraji, but you can't for some reason remember my name. I think if you were going to make a video about me, I would have rather you just said my name. I. I honestly would have because I think that you trying to slickly call me some else. I just. Especially because you said, do with that information what you will. After that. It was messy and it's okay because I'm messy. So I got the joke and it's like I wasn't mad. I wasn't mad at that point. I wasn't mad at Taraji. So in reference to the most recent situation for which I made a video about you, I'm gonna play that first video so that we can all be on the same page. So this is in reference to a couple months back, she changed her name on her profile or on her pages and people noticed. So they started making videos, I guess congratulating her for officially tying the knot with her at one point, fiance. And so this narrative had, had changed on TikTok from what I saw. Oh, apparently Jackie blocked somebody because they said congratulation. Kind of blew her spot up essentially for getting married. This again is a narrative that I did not create. I saw the conversations happening on my timeline just as everybody else. This is the video I made in reference to that.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Now y'all know Jackie Aina is a strict and she runs a tight ship. She is no nonsense. So I know y'all not getting up on here saying like, oh, finally she got married. Girl, you know she gonna block you.

[Jamila Bell]

Quicker than you can get a candle from her new line.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Jackie really do not be playing with y'all. And it, it be so Funny to me, because every time she get to get the blocking folks for doing some bullshit, I'll be like, can you believe I literally got blocked by Jackie Aina because I said she was an auntie? Like, yeah, I can't believe that. Because I've been following Jackie since, like, 2013. I know that lady very well.

[Mecca Evans]

Do you?

[Unnamed Speaker]

That's like getting surprised that Beyonce doesn't release a song because it got leaked.

[Jackie Aina]

Duh.

[Jamila Bell]

You gots to know who you a fan of, sister.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Jackie, don't play with us like that. Y'all should know that if you really follow her, y'all know you gotta just sit back and let Jackie tell us her business little by little. You just got to be a spectator. Now, thanks to y'all, she may not.

[Jamila Bell]

Even give us the goddamn footage.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Cause y'all talk too much. Jackie. I still want to see the pictures, though, sister. Congratulations.

[Jamila Bell]

Now, that was the video out. Now, I will say if you don't. If you are not familiar with my content, my banter, the way that I talk, the way that I carry on, I can understand the first line hitting her like a ton of bricks. You know, she's a strict bitch. Now, let me say in. In full retrospect, I. I cuss a lot. I have a very bad cussing habit. And I. And I talk. I talk very off the cuff, very raw. So I can understand if she's seen that video and seen nothing else from me. Her being kind of like, okay, that was a bit abrasive. Because she did say in her video that if we don't have some type of rapport, then you can't joke with me like that. I understand that. So when I found out that I was blocked, I wasn't really upset. It was like, damn, like, she might have just misunderstood my joke. And that's okay. It was still not an issue. This is the video that came right after when I essentially noticed that I was blocked by her.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Hey, I'm sad. What was the final straw?

[Jamila Bell]

I didn't even stop. I blame Mecca.

[Mecca Evans]

Now let's insert the I blame Mecca right again. I'm used to people going and finding my videos for me. I'm a little bit spoiled by TikTok at this point. And I don't delete videos like everyone else. Who was going to see where they blocked by Jackie? I went and checked, and I was blocked, and I made a video chuckling about it. I probably said, bitch. I probably. Because we both. That's how we speak. And I don't think anything was said that was wrong.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, because I wasn't like, oh my.

[Mecca Evans]

God, ew, Jackie blocking. I was like, girl, I feel you like that.

[Jackie Aina]

I know that was the tone of.

[Jamila Bell]

The video because I saw that video and that's what made me check.

[Jackie Aina]

And that's what made you check because I saw someone else's video and then the whole I blame Mecca thing, I can't even remember where that came from because that should be happening.

[Jamila Bell]

I just, I was gonna say I just said that to be funny. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Aina]

Jamila said I blame Mecca because I had made them mad about something else. And she just said I blame Mecca at the end, which is now a joke. I blame Mecca. Like, you know, Queen Nyesha. But yeah, I mean, so I wanna.

[Jamila Bell]

I wanna start there though, because that is actually a huge point of contention. So Jackie said in her video that I created this narrative that I blocked her because of my video defending her, when in actuality I was blocked three months prior. And I'm going to say this and say this now. I need everybody to hear me clearly. How in the hell would I know that I was blocked three months prior if I was blocked? You don't get a notification when you're blocked. Nobody tells you, hey, everybody, just so you know, Jackie on a blocked you. I did not know that. That does not why it doesn't make sense for me to sit up here and create a video. And I mean this with all respect. I don't need to make a video claiming to be blocked by Jackie Aina to get views. I was already a large creator when this happened. I was already getting views. I was already stamped in in my own personal platform. I don't have to make a 20 second video laughing at the fact that I'm blacked by Jackie Aina in order to get views. And to say that and to insinuate that, pretty low. I don't really. That's, that's, that's lame to me, to be quite honest.

[Jackie Aina]

I would also like to insert. I don't know what's going on with the blocking and unblocking with her team, but I texted you because again, we were both blocked at this point. We thought it was funny. It wasn't a big deal. In the past couple months, I've been unblocked and I know that because I've seen her on my for you page. I've seen her on my live or you know, they pop up on live. I haven't engaged because. And I haven't even really. I think I may have mentioned it. On live or something. But I have not made a dedicated video being like, oh, Jackie unblocked me.

[Mecca Evans]

Because it's not that deep. So. But what I did notice is after.

[Jackie Aina]

She made this video, we can't see it now. We're. Now we're blocked again.

[Jamila Bell]

I definitely, I definitely stayed blocked. And she also went ahead and was thorough and blocked me on Instagram as well after this. And that's. But I want to make it. I want to make it very clear that after that situation, I. These are the only videos to date that exist of me talking about Jackie Aina. And that is. That is the God honest truth. You can go through my page and find any other video that you want to. Because she specifically said she blocked me three months prior because I was making fun of her. You can. If you watch those videos that I just showed y'all and you feel as though still that I was making fun of Jackie, then that's just gonna have to be your perception because it just is what it is.

[Jackie Aina]

Looking for them damn videos. Y'all scroll.

[Unnamed Speaker]

I did.

[Jamila Bell]

Because I, I'm. If you're gonna say I did something, we're gonna talk about that. I really don't like when people put out a. A fake narrative about me. I'm not saying that that was Jackie's intention. I truly don't know what Jackie's intentions were. And I can't speak towards somebody's intentions. I can only respond to what I'm seeing. She also said that I engaged in age shaming her. Again, that's not true. I've never age shamed her. The only thing I said was blocking somebody for calling you auntie is a very auntie thing to do. I also said in the same video that I also be blocking people for random ass things. I'm also 28 and I've also been called auntie multiple times. I don't think that. I think that what's happening is you have run across my videos and you have created this narrative of who I am based off of a 20 second clip. Which, again, is fair.

[Jackie Aina]

And it is.

[Jamila Bell]

That's just how the game goes. But it's not fair for you to take a 20 second clip and create a narrative of what my content is. Because you also said I'm a serial yapper and that means my content is lacking because that's all I engage in. That lets me know everything I need to know. Because you don't know my content, Jackie. And that's okay. I'm not imploring you to go do your research on me. You don't have to do that. You don't have to know my content. But I think it's irresponsible of you and your. For your 3 million followers on TikTok alone, to get on here and to spread misinformation about me and then to try to, you know, wrap it up in a nice, pretty bow by saying, but I don't engage in dog polling and I don't want you guys to go do that. I don't want you guys to do that. I think that that's really disingenuous. I think if you create a video about somebody and say that they engaged in bullying you, and you sit here and say that because the bullying was so bad and I did all these things, you had to block me. You have to know what's going to come of that. There are a lot of people that adore you. You have a lot of really, really amazing fans, and of course they're going to want to defend you.

[Jackie Aina]

And I think that' the way that it goes, I'll leave it on the playground. Leonard.

[Jamila Bell]

Exactly.

[Jackie Aina]

Because some accusations, then you got to put names behind, Right?

[Jamila Bell]

And you also said that because of those videos, I engage in dog whistles by saying certain things that may not necessarily be, you know, obvious and upfront, but I allow my comment section to essentially do my dirty work for me and talk. And I'm here to tell you that the call is coming from inside the house. What you did in that video is exactly what you've been accusing me of doing. You got on your platform and you started to talk about me in a negative way and allowed for your comment section to do your dirty work for you. My, My feed is now flooded with people in here saying, why did you lie on Jackie, you liar. Why did you lie on Jackie? Taraji begins. And that's what's my comments. So, yeah, I did engage in that. And it's just. Yeah, that I think it. I think it's pretty lame. And to end off your video and say, I just want to be left alone. My question to you is, if you wanted to be left alone, why would you create this video? You were not in this conversation at all. You were not brought up at all. You had nothing to do with the Super 5 conversation. You interjected yourself because you saw people already talking about me. You saw that there was a narrative going around that I was a mean girl, and you saw this was your opportunity to get in where you fit in. I have a story I want to add my 2 cents in there. I too have a negative experience with this girl. And let me just say, let's talk about the colorism tip. I'm not going to shy away from that. You kind of suggested that because of the way that I look, I'm going to be perceived one way versus the way that you look and you're going to be perceived another versus, you know, depending on how we talk. And you're right about that. I can't help that because I'm light skinned. No matter what I say, the perception that I have is going to be different than when a dark skinned woman is saying similar or different things. However, that is not what's happening in this situation. You said that I bullied you and I was mean to you and I made fun of you and I shamed you and I lied about knowing when I was blocked to gather engagement. That is not what happened. The way people are going to perceive us is outside of our control. I cannot help perceived. All I can do is, is, is, is me. I can only be myself. I can only respond in the way that I respond. I don't want to invalidate your feelings about anything, but I also think if you can have strong feelings, so can I. If you can feel upset about something, so can I. This was very upsetting. I said in my, in one of my other videos, which you saw, I've been following you since probably before 2013. As you can see right up here, I am an OG YouTube girl as well. So to see somebody who I look up to do this is very, very upsetting because I've always loved your content. You're a pioneer when it comes to beauty influence. Nobody would ever take that away from you. And, and, and so I, like I said in my videos, I did come and to defend you in my own way. I am not your cookie cutter influencer. I don't speak in, in PC code every time because that's not who I am. I am a comedian and I am a writer. So yes, I am absolutely going to add a joke whenever I talk about almost anything because that is who I am and that's how I got my following. So now that I've addressed all of the things that you said in your video, I want to talk about myself for a little bit because what I don't like is when people try to flip the script and tell me about myself. I'm going to let, I'm going to do that for me. Okay? I started making content in 2011, okay, on YouTube with my little brother. We Were making comedy skits. Okay, fast forward to gaining a following back on tick tock around 2020, I have again gained another following year because.

[Jackie Aina]

Of how you got on. Because that's stuff that still comes up in your comments. Are you the black parents versus white parents girl?

[Mecca Evans]

She is.

[Jamila Bell]

I am. So to say that I'm a. I'm to. To. To minimize and to water down my content to just yapping about tik tok drama. That's not who. That's not. That ain't even me, sister. You Google me. You can google me literally. Don't you ever content? I do. I graduated from Georgia State University with a film degree and a minor in journalism and communication.

[Jackie Aina]

Ain't you K?

[Jamila Bell]

I don't take well to people telling my story for me. This YouTube plaque I got, this YouTube plaque I got right here came from me getting over 100. This is the old YouTube plaques, by the way. They don't even look like this no more. This came from me getting a hundred thousand subscribers before 2015. So understand that this you. I can't let you slide with that one, sister. I can't let you slide with that one.

[Jackie Aina]

Aren't you also a doula?

[Jamila Bell]

I am a labor doula. I assist women in labor. Let's talk about the content that I do now, because I know you wanted to say that I'm a yapper, which I'll take that. I do yap, and I'm a talkative individual. I'm a Gemini, all of those things. The content that I create on TikTok is a wide range of content. I make political content, talking about the inequities between race, class, and gender. I'm a doula. So I talk about the disparities of black women in health care, specifically maternal health, because I am a mother as well, and I've experienced medical racism. So it's something that I'm very pivotal on. It's actually something I'm doing research on right now. I do comedic content and I create skits about funny thing that's happening all around us. I do a lot of TV commentary because I do work in television. I like to watch tv and I talk about that. I talk about things that are popular, are going on in pop culture, social phenomenons. That's what I do. And anybody who's been following me for even a week would know that I don't stay on a topic very long. I move on. So I'm going to move on from this topic as well. At the very end, you said you don't expect a civil response. You don't really expect anything to come out of this. And to that I say again, you don't know me very well. We've since invited you on our podcast. I would implore you to come on so we can have a sit down and kind of flesh this out. I wanted to respond personally first because I think that I was owed that. Considering you can make a 8 video, 8 minute video about me on Tick Tock. I think I, you know, I think it's only fair that I get an opportunity to respond uninterrupted first. But I would love to move forward. And for me, that looks like us sitting down and just having a conversation because I think that's what was missing in the first place, a conversation. Because I think it's very clear based off of all the videos that I've shown today that you simply misunderstood me. My content and my banter and humor. And that I can understand. I can understand that. But what I don't appreciate is taking the misunderstanding that you took from my videos and creating that and making that the truth and making that the narrative and using that as your on your platform. So I have that open invitation to you. I would love to talk to you more. I would love to leave this where it is because I don't think it's productive for two black women to. To be talking like this when we could be elevating. Considering the disparities that black people have have in this space, specifically some of which you've spoken on on your platform many a times. I would hope that you understand the, the severity and how this looks. So again, I. We invite you on. Hopefully we can make amends and move.

[Jackie Aina]

Forward because, yeah, girl, you taught me how to do a cut crease when I was 16. I ain't got no smoke with you. And I do want to take responsibility. The part about the bottles being ugly, that was me, but I think you left out the full sentence. I said the bottles are ugly. They look like they are from Ross. I know that because I be in Ross. But the perfume smells very, very good. It does. Great product. I'm a perfume girl. Well, and I'll take it a step further. I'm sorry. I apologize for saying the bottles were ugly.

[Jamila Bell]

I do want to offer an apology because I think, I think it's only fair. I do want to apologize for the perception of how I engage with you online. I think it's like I said, because I am a avid curse word user. It's all my commentary. Yeah, my commentary can be very abrasive. Especially if somebody, you know how you ever meet a girl and she's like, don't call me. Just like, you don't have that banter with, with them. It's like, oh, okay, you're one. You, you don't really, you don't like to play like that. And that's cool. You know, I don't know you personally and so I recognize that, you know, watching those videos can be a little bit off putting at face value. But I think if you take a another look at it from a different lens and consider that that's just how I speak about everybody and about everything, then you'll understand that nothing I said was personal. But you know, I do want to still apologize for the way that it came across because clearly it affected you in some kind of way. Those were not my intentions.

[Jackie Aina]

But impact over intentions impact over full responsibility for whatever feelings we stirred up in you and hopefully can resolve them and come to a resolution. First impressions are anything but second impressions make the world go round. So if you are interested in discussing talking, making amends, we're open, we're here. We do not plan on talking about this on TikTok simply because we. I'm very interested in proving you wrong in terms of not having what she say. The respectful. I didn't remember the line Jamila, sorry.

[Jamila Bell]

A civil resolution.

[Jackie Aina]

A civil resolution. Yeah, you know, we don't want to aid and Abed in too much mess. Now I'll be honest, I'm a yapper.

[Mecca Evans]

Jamila has a lot.

[Jackie Aina]

I also do have a lot going for myself, but I did build my platform on giving my opinions on pop culture, celebrity and what's going on and I'm okay, I own it. It's nothing that if that is said about me, I feel ashamed of. I have amassed almost a million off of giving my opinions. People care about what I have to say and I can understand when someone else with a sizable platform has people saying things and agreeing with them and they're not. You don't see them as favorable towards you. It is off putting and you feel like you okay, girl, I don't fuck with you. And that is not the case. That was never my intention. And I'm also, like I said, open to changing my thoughts. I encourage my followers to do this all the time and I will take responsibility at the top because it was a couple years ago when that, when Jackie first asked us to stop calling her auntie, which I never called her auntie because I, you know, I just was like, I actually call older people auntie, and I don't see Jackie as old.

[Mecca Evans]

Right? I was like, what's the big deal?

[Jackie Aina]

And slowly, as we creep, creep, creep towards 30 in real time, I have been. I mean, it's on TikTok. I see where Jackie was coming from. You bitch is trying to be shady. I don't think it's a big deal, but I see where she was coming from. You bitches trying to be fun with it, right? It's not a term of endearment when you're trying to dunk on someone for their age. And so, you know, I mean, we can beat a dead horse. But again, we. We apologize for whatever feelings our content has stirred up in you. And like I said, I won't be talking about it on Tick Tock.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, this is. I. I'm not gonna drag this because this is as much as I. I want you to know that considering we got on our podcast and have now been talking for 30 minutes, that that actually shows how much we respect you, because I don't ever get nobody no attention.

[Jackie Aina]

Let me tell you something. What, what you said at the beginning, Jackie is a pioneer. We would be remiss if we didn't say she has opened doors for girls like us. I don't do makeup content. I don't do beauty content. But I was a kid on YouTube at a time where there were not a lot of black women to look at, if any at all. But there was Jackie, right? And we are not people who are not going to give motherfuckers their tens. And Jackie, I'm not calling you a motherfucker. That's just how I talk.

[Jamila Bell]

We.

[Jackie Aina]

We're giving you your tens right now. You are a pioneer. You are an og. I mean that with the utmost respect. I'm from California, and when I say you are a YouTube OG, you did this so that we can do this. Now people are walking on the path that you literally carved. So thank you. Also.

[Mecca Evans]

Thank you for that.

[Jamila Bell]

And with that, I wanted to also be known that because you. We revere you as a pioneer. I think it's also important that even though I am offering apologies and I'm saying, you know, there's intent over impact, I want you to reflect as well. I don't think it's fair for you to be able to say any and everything. Nobody is above critique and neither are you. I want you to still sit back and reflect and be honest with yourself about how this came about, because there is. There are apologies to go around and just as you have built a career and a brand off of being a beauty influencer, me and Mecca are on our way to doing the same things. We are building brands and building businesses based off of coming up off of this, this here TikTok app. And hopefully, you know, and not even hopefully we will, you know, continue to grow and blossom and hope to gain a different level of success based off of the following that we have, you know, developed organically through this app. We have created a following. And that following, they engage with us and they, and they like our content and, and I know you understand what that's like to, to want to make your. Your supporters proud of you and to want to continually drop content that you feel makes sense for you. And I'm going to continue to do what I've always been doing, and I hope that you can understand where we're coming from with that.

[Jackie Aina]

All right, well, thanks for listening to this special episode. Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged Immoral. Tap in every Thursday. I'm Meccacca, known as Meccavelli on TikTok and anything else. I'm Jameela and y'all have a great.

[Mecca Evans]

Rest of your day.

[Jamila Bell]

Yes. Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans. Produced by Melissa D. Montz and Diamond Imprint Productions, post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistance by Melody D. Watson, music by Audie and Brooklyn billionaires.