Dreaming of Studio 54

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unhinged & Immoral – Episode: Dreaming of Studio 54

Release Date: April 17, 2025

Hosts: Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans
Production: Diamond MPrint Productions

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Overview

In the episode titled "Dreaming of Studio 54," hosts Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans delve into a variety of topics ranging from personal relationships and dating dynamics to workplace experiences and reflections on pop culture. With their signature candidness and humor, they navigate through nostalgic anecdotes, astrological insights, and listener interactions, all while maintaining an engaging and relatable conversation.

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1. Personal Relationships and Dating Dynamics

Discussion Highlights: Jamila and Mecca openly discuss their perspectives on dating, emphasizing the challenges and nuances of modern relationships. They explore themes such as age gaps in dating, expectations from potential partners, and the impact of past relationships on current dating behaviors.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "I genuinely want to date people who are my age or, like, one to two years older than me. I don't want to like a boy who's younger. That sounds like a nightmare."
  [02:51]

• Jameela: "When I have a crush, even though I have many feelings of the inside, like, the giddy, giddiness... I know within a couple weeks that's gonna pass. So I know, like, okay, play it cool."
  [14:01]

2. Astrology and Its Influence on Relationships

Discussion Highlights: The hosts delve into astrology, discussing how different zodiac signs influence their romantic interactions and preferences. They share personal experiences with various astrological signs, highlighting traits they find attractive or challenging.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "Instant connection with Sagittarius men... Gemini and Sagittarius are sister signs."
  [09:29]

• Jameela: "Male Aries are insane... They do the same thing. They don't want to cut it off because it's like, it's not like, fuck you."
  [08:35]

3. Workplace Experiences and Dynamics

Discussion Highlights: Jamila and Mecca recount their experiences in various workplaces, shedding light on the interpersonal relationships and dramas that unfold in professional settings. They discuss the concept of "work husbands/wives" and the blurred lines between professional and personal interactions.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "Once you're single, you get desperate. You start thinking about possibilities. You'd be like, oh, wow, what if we would have sex in the laundry room."
  [29:28]

• Jameela: "The keys to having a work husband is never actually crossing over that boundary of, like, the work flirt."
  [27:23]

4. Pop Culture and Historical References

Discussion Highlights: The hosts take a nostalgic trip down memory lane, referencing iconic moments and figures from the past. They discuss the cultural significance of Studio 54, legendary celebrities like Diana Ross and Michael Jackson, and the vibrant queer history of old Hollywood.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "I would have been known. Cause she was there every goddamn night. That would have been me, bitch."
  [35:28]

• Jameela: "Everybody knew it... It wasn't like it was secret. They were very much out."
  [38:32]

5. Social Issues and Community Reflections

Discussion Highlights: Addressing serious topics, Jamila and Mecca reflect on the impact of historical events like the AIDS epidemic and crack crisis on the Black community. They emphasize the importance of recognizing and honoring the struggles faced by their elders.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "While crack absolutely ravaged our community, we also have to talk about how HIV AIDS ravaged our community too."
  [42:43]

• Jameela: "That's why they act like that when you ask about your mama and your grandma, why they act so goddamn crazy."
  [43:04]

6. Listener Interactions and Feedback

Discussion Highlights: The hosts engage with their audience by reading and responding to listener comments and reviews. They highlight favorite moments from previous episodes, share personal stories related to listener feedback, and foster a sense of community among their listeners.

Notable Quotes:

• Jameela: "Kiara Ganey 5099 said, 'This is my favorite episode that y'all have done. Literally, a brush of a breath of fresh air.' Thank you, Kiara."
  [65:10]

• Mecca: "KB says Mecca. I remember shoes. The shoes rule."
  [65:03]

7. Advice Segment: Spin It

Discussion Highlights: In their "Spin It" segment, Jamila and Mecca offer personalized advice to listeners seeking guidance on personal dilemmas. This episode features advice on navigating dating in the Norfolk, Virginia area, emphasizing safety, social dynamics, and practical tips for making meaningful connections.

Notable Quotes:

• Mecca: "Stay clear from the military niggas and honestly, probably steer clear from the locals. That's just my personal advice if you want to have a real good experience."
  [48:55]

• Jameela: "Make sure you're in control of the situation. Don't allow yourself to be swept up by them."
  [50:19]

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Conclusion

"Dreaming of Studio 54" offers a blend of humor, honesty, and insightful conversations as Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans navigate through personal anecdotes, societal observations, and interactive segments with their listeners. The episode not only entertains but also provides valuable perspectives on relationships, community issues, and cultural history, staying true to the podcast's mission of exploring the wildest corners of internet gossip and pop culture.

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Transcript

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[Sterling K. Brown]

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[Mecca]

Going in that cash talk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them woo woo from the Jaguar. It ain't even right though. Push me and I might go, she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the hype for? When the bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof. Gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them.

[Jameela]

Ramping. Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral.

[Mecca]

I am Mecca and I'm Jameela.

[Jameela]

And I'm not tore up today. I didn't drink that much yesterday, but we did do like my birthday finale and that was like a lot of fun. So I was outside at this bar called Bar 5015. That's where like the older fellas go. It's like where the cat daddies are at.

[Mecca]

So are you guys noticing a trend with Mecca? Every time she tells us she goes out, it's conveniently where the cat daddies are.

[Jameela]

There's a cat daddy. Whoa.

[Mecca]

Her words, not mine.

[Jameela]

They. They buy drinks. Is that not what we are?

[Mecca]

Are you guys noticing a trend?

[Jameela]

Is that not what we all want?

[Mecca]

Are you guys noticing a trend?

[Jameela]

Jameela, you like young men and it's okay. Like, are we not noticing.

[Mecca]

No, I actually don't. I bitches they one nigga who younger than them, and all of a sudden it's they thing, like. Nah, I really don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jameela]

You know, I understand you want to feel young. And so that's the thing, you know.

[Mecca]

I feel like, well, I am young and I'll always be young.

[Jameela]

Youngish.

[Mecca]

I mean, I genuinely don't actually like younger boys. It actually kind of makes me twitch when I recognize the age. I really, genuinely want to date people who are my age or, like one to two years older than me. Like, that's really the goal. I don't want to like a boy who's younger. That sounds like a nightmare. But, I mean, if they act regular, then it's cool.

[Jameela]

Oh, then cool if they act regular.

[Mecca]

Still makes me twitch.

[Jameela]

But hey, the last part was really all I needed. Anyway, what did you do this week? And I know you had a lot, a lot going on.

[Mecca]

Yes. So we had a listening party for Audi's new ep and it went very, very well. I was very pleased as a manager and as a friend. It went very well. We had a really good feedback, really good turnout, and we had a blast. So, you know, that's always good. And. Yeah. So really excited for her and. Yeah. How was your party?

[Jameela]

It was good. Everyone came dressed like the early 2010s. I saw it was a lot of fun. I. Everyone was like, why do you have those jeans? Why do you have that infinity scarf? Why do you have that vest? I mean, I'm.

[Mecca]

I was there.

[Jameela]

No, I mean, I was there, so I knew exactly what to buy. But I went to the thrift store. I didn't just have that infinity scarf marinating for, like, the last decade, you.

[Mecca]

Know, I thought you just pulled it out from.

[Jameela]

I pulled the Jordans out. I pulled them aquas out. For sure. Them was from my archives. They were at the party. Like, them is the look like you about to go suck dick in the bathroom. The Amber Cole reference again, aging ourself the entire time because it was like the J's, not the dick sucking J's.

[Mecca]

I said, I'm crying. Honestly. My favorite part of your outfit was the layered cami, because that was.

[Jameela]

Bitches don't know about the layered cami. They never referenced the.

[Mecca]

That was our thing.

[Jameela]

That is historically accurate. You know how, like, when the 80s was really big, like, everyone was doing, like, the 1980s parties and there were little things that my aunts would do that would be like. But this is historically accurate. I Know that y'all are, like, cosplaying our culture, but this. Oh, fuck. What was it? I can. And my aunt was like, specifically did it. She specifically did her hair in a. Like, she teased her hair for real. And everyone who was, like, there could tell that she actually did hurt, like, whatever she did. I don't know. But, like, the way she did her bump and her asymmetrical was, like, historically accurate. And so, like, when I was doing the cami layer, I just was taken back to that moment. I was like, but are gonna catch this. Because this part of the outfit, historically accurate. The rest of it's like, oh, yeah, the vest, the infinity scarf, the J's, the skinny jeans. But the layered cami, that is history. That lets you know I was there. One of the boys wore, like, the layered socks. I didn't get that. I don't know if people were peeping. Justin wasn't on camera, but he came in. You know how we used to have. The boys used to layer the Nike socks? I said, oh, another piece of historical accuracy. Wow. Loved it.

[Mecca]

I love when we just take it there. I love a good theme and things like that. I love that. I'm pretty sure for next year for my birthday, because it will be a golden birthday. Turning 30 on the 30th.

[Jameela]

30Th, baby. My golden birthday was when I was 8.

[Mecca]

Absolutely. Oh, yeah. That's unfortunate.

[Jameela]

I went to go see Ella Enchanted. Okay. Period.

[Mecca]

When I turn 30, I'm sure you guys expect the biggest party you've ever heard of in your life.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Mecca]

I don't know what I'm gonna do, but just know it's going to be one for the books. That's why I'm kind of like, whatever for this birthday. Like, I just. I don't have any ideas. Obviously, it's my birthday, and anybody who knows me knows I'm obsessed with my birthdays. I actually knew my birthday damn near before I knew my name. Like, genuinely Speaking, I love May30. It is who I am at my core. So everyone knows that. You're not allowed to piss me off on my birthday.

[Jameela]

Oh, really?

[Mecca]

You're not allowed to get on my nerves? You're not allowed to be mean to me? Like, those are the rules of Jameela's birthday, May 30. You cannot be any of those things. And that. Let me tell you something. Don't you have to be nice to me on my birthday?

[Jameela]

Okay, thank you. Well, May 30th is on the way. My birthday was a blast. I've been celebrating for like two weeks and I'm tired, so, you know. I bet I am. Last night I said, listen, we're back to regular scheduled programming. I'm actually gonna be on a cruise next month anyway, so I need to like, rest and prep. I'm gonna. I plan on getting a great tan. I plan on going to a couple islands and. Just.

[Mecca]

Sounds fun. I was gonna go on a cruise for my birthday, but I decided not to.

[Jameela]

This one is actually for Ashley's birthday, so I think she's a Gemini too, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mecca]

Not that close. In the beginning of May. That gives Taurus.

[Jameela]

Oh, Taurus. I'm sorry. It is Taurus.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you know, we real strict over.

[Jameela]

Here with your face. That is a Taurus. Dang. I know so many Tauruses. Male Tauruses are interesting.

[Mecca]

Male Taurus. I know a male Taurus. Horrible human.

[Jameela]

Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much in line with the male Taurus. I know.

[Mecca]

Terrible guys, but terrible person.

[Jameela]

I mean, they tend to fuck well. Really? He's not really a Taurus. I'm two for two with like Tauruses who fuck well and then are just like eh, human beings.

[Mecca]

But to be honest, most men of any zodiac are. I could honestly go on and on. Honestly, between like Sagittarius and Cancers, I'll give a pass. They're cool peeps. Cancers are crybabies, for the most part.

[Jameela]

Cancer men.

[Mecca]

Yeah. But I've only ever really experienced them as friends, so can't emotional much in a different way. Actually, Pisces men are far more emotional than cancer men in my experience.

[Jameela]

I can agree to that.

[Mecca]

Far more Pisces men are very emotional, very sensitive.

[Jameela]

They're very sensitive. I can agree with that. Yeah, for sure. Who do you think you have a crush on the most? Like sign wise, I've had a more.

[Mecca]

Instant connection with Sagittarius men.

[Jameela]

Cause y'all are crazy.

[Mecca]

When I think back, it makes sense because Gemini and Sagittarius are sister signs, okay? But I've also, unfortunately, again right off the bat, have sometimes been pulled to Virgo men. But I have made up after I've realized that that will never actually happen. Like I would ne. I don't think I would ever settle down with a Virgo man. I think our actual personalities and our temperaments are far too opposite and we clash too much. I don't like all that shit, okay? No. I need you to be fun, okay? I don't need you trying to critique me every goddamn chance you get, nigga, you can't critique me.

[Jameela]

Don't critique.

[Mecca]

Just enjoy, okay? Just enjoy the party. I'm gonna be who I be, you know, So I don't think I would, you know, fester into those waters, but.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

So I've. I've dated enough Capricorns for a lifetime. I don't ever want to date another Capricorn.

[Mecca]

I don't think I've ever dated a Capricorn.

[Jameela]

Don't.

[Mecca]

I don't know. Could have. I don't remember all those men's birthdays.

[Jameela]

I don't remember birthdays either. I do remember signs, though. So it's like, if you know the signs and the birthdays, because I do. That's like, you know, first 20 questions, like, what's your sign?

[Mecca]

I do love asking people side. I think it's always such a fun.

[Jameela]

It's just a fun, like, icebreaker. Yeah. So I. I definitely do remember signs. Like, that's why I'm over here. Like, oh, he was Taurus. He of Source. He's a Capricorn. Capricorn. A Pisces. Aquarius. What else? I've. I've dated a Virgo. I. He wasn't, like, the way that people describe male Virgos. He was very chill.

[Mecca]

Oh, that's how they get you. They always begin chill.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

You must not have gotten to the crazy.

[Jameela]

I didn't. I don't think I had gotten to.

[Mecca]

His crazy yet, honestly, because, listen, it was coming.

[Jameela]

I don't think I had gotten there, but for the.

[Mecca]

He was pretty chill. It was coming like a thief in a knife. He was gonna wake up one day like, who the fuck? What?

[Jameela]

I have dated a couple also Aries, who. One of their birthdays just passed yesterday, and the other one, his birthday is coming up. And when they be.

[Mecca]

I dated an Aries before as well. It was. It was fine. But male Aries, it lasted way too long.

[Jameela]

It's always like, male Aries are insane. And they both were insane, but, like, in completely different ways. But they were both different types of niggas.

[Mecca]

And he didn't want to let me go, even though he wasn't shit. Why?

[Jameela]

Leave me alone.

[Mecca]

You keep doing things.

[Jameela]

I feel like that's how male Aries are. Is because even when I'm thinking about these two, like, they. They be like, I don't know, trying to keep that. Not even in, like, a romantic way. Just like, oh, we're cool, you know? I don't know. How do you act when you have, like, a crush in general, like, outside of fines, when I have a crush.

[Mecca]

On a boy, I feel like I get very, like, giddy. I'm just full of joy. You get the butterflies sometimes. Not really like full on butterflies, but it's like I like the type of person I am just in general. Not even with a man. I feel like I'm very expressive, I'm very talkative. I'm very excited about just random things. That's just how I am. So when there's a guy that I have a crush on that carries over, I have this level of excitement to talk to them. Of course I want to be around them. Um, but it's, it's, it's interesting because I don't think that that reads very well sometimes. I think it sometimes reads as like, maybe I'm too forward or pressed, but it's like, oh, no, it's.

[Jameela]

You're just excited.

[Mecca]

Please don't flatter yourself, okay. In that way. I'm just, I just, I thought, I thought you were cool. Just wanted to chat.

[Jameela]

When I have a crush, even though, Even though I have many feelings, like, of the inside, like the giddy, giddy, giddiness. And I know myself so well. And this is why, you know, like, obviously we always encourage young, younger women than us, but like you said, we're still young women, youngish to date. Because I know exactly like how. I know. I know how I'm gonna act during the crush phase of it. Like, I'm gonna be giddy and I'm gonna be so excited. Cause oh my God, he's so cute. He likes me. Da da. And I know within a couple weeks that's gonna pass. So I know, like, okay, play it cool. Don't do too much. Don't.

[Mecca]

And by play it cool, you mean are you a nonchalant type bitch?

[Jameela]

No, I'm not. And I, and I do think that it's abundantly important for me to make clear I am very shalant. I am not a nonchalant ass lady. And I never act like I'm nonchalant because I cannot maintain being nonchalant because I think that's where a lot of, like, girls get fuck it up at. You want to act like you're like, you're nonchalant, you don't care. And then when you actually do start liking him three months in, you're wondering why he's texting you all slow. Well, he thinks that's okay because you were, you know, you were trying to be nonchalant. No, I take no, no When I say play it cool, I'm talking about what you're talking about. Like, not the whole, oh, I just wanted to talk to you, doctor, you know, like. Like that extreme. You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

That excitement, that is a bit crazy.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying? Like, the excitement on top of oh, Nelly. Right? Because I'm already.

[Mecca]

I'm down, baby.

[Jameela]

You see, I'm fucking. Shut up. I'm already not nonchalant. So me, when I have a crush is like, it can be a lot. So I just have to, like, reel it in and be normal is what I'm trying to say.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I try to keep it leveled in check, too, because I know that, like, if I'm having a good time, I'll kind of start to, like, not overthink anything. And it's not that I need to overthink, but it's like, I do need to think a bit. And so.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Because sometimes I'll just turn my thinking cap off. Like, oh, whatever. Like, you know, it's cool. Like, you know, we're just having a good time. Like, it's not that serious. But sometimes it's like, no, you need to have that thinking cap on. Cause it's like, that was kind of. But, you know, I try to just have a good time. Like, I very much. Like, I try not to overthink what I do and how I present myself. Like, I said this in a previous episode where it's just like, you know, if I want to talk to you, I'm going to talk to you. Like, I'm not going to play no texting game with you. Like, oh, well, he took an hour to respond. I'm going to take two, bitch. I don't have time for that. I am always on my phone if I see your message and I respond. And that's because I wanted to. Like, I just don't. That is just not my vibe. Like, I'm not going to play those type of games and. But I also don't feel like that means anything, if that makes sense. Some people internalize everything to mean a thing. And it's like me texting you back doesn't mean anything other than my phone was in my hand.

[Jameela]

I mean, I don't. Like, that's fair.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

But I will also say just because.

[Mecca]

I just felt like talking to you.

[Jameela]

Like, you are not that interested in. If your phone could be in your hand and, you know, you don't respond well.

[Mecca]

Yes. But also, if I'm not interested, I. I won't continue to talk to you.

[Jameela]

Also fair.

[Mecca]

I don't string things alone. So it's like. And some people really like to string things along. And I just think that that's weird. And I think that you gotta cut that out. Well, I know sometimes it's a comfort thing. Like, I'm not stringing.

[Jameela]

How.

[Mecca]

How you stringing, Stringing, huh?

[Jameela]

If I don't. If I don't. Stringing Mecca, stringing y'all niggas, she's stringing you along. Cause I'm never gonna like you. But some people, it's like, in this moment, I possibly like another nigga more.

[Mecca]

Like, you're not my fave.

[Jameela]

Like, you're not my favorite nigga right now. And that's okay. We've all been there. There are some points where I'm not the favorite lady. And you know, niggas, niggas do the same thing. They don't want to cut it off because it's like, it's not like, fuck you, but it's just like, you know.

[Mecca]

We had this conversation with one of my male best friend, Dwight, and he asked me and my other best friend Sydney a question, which was, when you go out on a date or when you're dating a guy in general, do you expect him to like you? And we busted out laughing because it was like, well, yes, but at the same time it was like, yes, but not in like a super deep way. Like, I don't expect you to be in love with me after one date, but I do.

[Jameela]

Yeah, I was gonna. I was actually gonna answer that. No. Oh, okay.

[Mecca]

But I don't think that. But I do.

[Jameela]

Like, I think you're about to say the same thing, but I just feel like the way that our brains, like, answered it, yours was yes and mine was no. But I think we. I just.

[Mecca]

I'm sorry, I was just gonna say I do expect the guy to like me after the first date only because I know how I present myself. Like, I just know who I am and how I am. And I feel like I'm a fun time girl. I feel like I'm fun. I don't necessarily, like I said, I don't necessarily expect it to be anything deep. Like, oh, my God, this is my soulmate. Like, I'm not your soulmate. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm more than likely we're not compatible. More than likely I also have that in my brain. Like, more than likely me. We're not going to work out because just like, statistically speaking, like, Every is not my soulmate. But if we had a good time on the date and you know what I'm saying, I do expect like, oh, I, I feel like at the very least a can walk away like, she cool N she cool people. She cool. I'm cool.

[Jameela]

We're going to take a break.

[Mandy Moore]

Hey, it's Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown.

[Sterling K. Brown]

And Chris Sullivan from that Was Us.

[Chris Sullivan]

Spring is finally here. And if you're like us, you're looking for little ways to bring new energy into your home. Starting with your bed.

[Mandy Moore]

I love everything about Brooklinen. I love the variety of colors. I love the texture. I love the coolness up against my skin. I'm a man who runs hot. These sheets keep your boy cool and I love them.

[Sterling K. Brown]

Brooklinen makes it so easy to refresh your space with layers that feel light, breathable, and so comfortable. Finding sheets you love can be tricky, but Brooklinen nails it every time.

[Chris Sullivan]

Brooklinen offers so many different tones and textures, which is great since new colors can make your bedroom feel fresh and inviting. Plus their lightweight, airy fabrics are perfect for sun kissed mornings and cozy nights.

[Mandy Moore]

And the best part, Brooklinen has everything you need from soft sheets to the perfect throw blankets. To style and layer your bed effortlessly.

[Sterling K. Brown]

It's no wonder they have over 100,000 five star reviews. People love them. So if you're ready to refresh your space, now is the time.

[Chris Sullivan]

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[Jameela]

And Rebecca, so wait was Dwight's question. Do you expect a nigga to like you going into the date or after the date?

[Mecca]

After.

[Jameela]

Oh, um, I don't know. Like, I don't. I. I feel like those first conversations and the first date are really up for interpretation. I'm no longer and I haven't done this in a really long time. I don't cold turkey date. Like, I don't cold, you know, cold call cold cold.

[Mecca]

What that mean?

[Jameela]

Like, we live in a day and age where FaceTime, our phones, our text is such a part of everyday life. I don't go into dates blindsided. Like I go into a date knowing.

[Mecca]

Oh, like without having been you, you.

[Jameela]

Know, you get vetted for a couple of weeks over here. I, you know, I don't just show up to the date, you know, so I, I'll say yes based on basically because I thought you, I thought you were kind of asking a different question. Honestly, I'll say yes. Because, yeah, I have vetted you. I know you like me now. I guess the first day is just like. Is it confirmation of, like, how much you're going to like me? But we've definitely talked on the phone. We've definitely FaceTimed before you see me in person. And I also think it's a safety thing. Like, not, you know, you never really know anybody. But I have. Oh, my God. You wanna know why I do this? I made a TikTok about this. I met someone out at the club, like, years ago, probably in, like, when I was 20.

[Mecca]

Is this the one who ended up being a weirdo?

[Jameela]

Yes. Did we talk about this?

[Mecca]

Yeah, that is.

[Jameela]

I swear.

[Mecca]

You said it on the episode.

[Jameela]

That was very crazy. Yeah, we've talked about this. I ended up talking to someone on the. I met him at the club, talked on the phone, did. Was a bad vibe and didn't. Didn't end up going on a date with him, and he ended up being, like, a child predator. And I found out because my mom was watching the news one day, and that was freaky. But so. So that, like, reinforced my. I need to peel the vibes out before I just pop out, you know?

[Mecca]

Yeah, I definitely do that a little bit. Maybe not, like, super extended in the way that you express, but, like, I do want to, like, talk to you before. Because if we can't even hold a conversation over the phone, what's your time frame?

[Jameela]

Do you do it for weeks or just, like, within the.

[Mecca]

Maybe like two weeks? Like, after two weeks, like, you should. We should probably be planning a date. Because, like, also, if you live in the same area, like, obviously, if we're like, in two separate cities and states that those timelines don't match up, it's kind of just like, when we can, we can. But if we live in the same city. State, nigga, two weeks. And we need to be on a damn date.

[Jameela]

Please. No, that's fair.

[Mecca]

I've been talking to you, to the events.

[Jameela]

But, you know, I love a little out of town. You feel me? As the Internet well knows.

[Mecca]

Yes. I have started to enjoy it more than I did before. I used to really not be into dating people who don't live here. Cause it's like, I'm very much. I like to be around you and stuff, like. But because I've been so busy and I can't even really sit down. Yeah, it's like, it doesn't really bother me, and I still have that ability to like, converse and like, get to know you and still kind of have that element of, like, male attention without, like, a lot of the commitment to, like, see you and stuff because you don't live here. So that's cool. Yeah, it's interesting, you know, just like.

[Jameela]

Oh.

[Mecca]

FaceTime me because show you what I'm wearing tonight. Do you like this outfit? Do you like the way I did my hair?

[Jameela]

Tell me I'm pretty. Yeah, I think I. I think especially when you're dating, having an out of town, you feel me, is. Is a really good addition to the roster. Especially like you said, if you're a busy person, a busy lady makes you feel like, okay, I still got me a little something. Little something in my back pocket.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

But I don't, I don't mean to be having you in my business all the time.

[Mecca]

Right. I was going to say, literally, my favorite thing to do, honestly, especially when talking to guys who don't live here, is, you know, if I'm getting ready to go out and, you know, I FaceTime them and let them see my outfit and. And then I just hear my compliments and I go, well, all right, goodbye.

[Jameela]

Thank you. Thanks for saying that. I need that pep talk before I step out into the world.

[Mecca]

You know, I love to, love to send a cute little video while I'm out. A little. A little quick little Instagram DM picture. You know, I just love doing those things. It's so flirty and fun. I love flirting. I like. Flirting is fun.

[Jameela]

It is.

[Mecca]

Everything doesn't have to be so rigid. Rigid. Uchi. Uchi.

[Jameela]

Ah.

[Mecca]

It can be, you know, a time like. And I feel like flirting is a skill which I only possess when I actually am talking to the person. For some reason. I cannot flirt very well if I'm like, just like, if I'm just seeing you in person, I child, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. But once I get to know you.

[Jameela]

You have to like the person.

[Mecca]

Yeah, I kind of have to like you or I'm super attracted to you so I can get those flirty eyes and be like, oh, yeah, I can flirt.

[Jameela]

I mean, I've had work husbands, so I think that if you like, work in an environment where it's like, I don't like, under normal circumstances, I would not talk to you. You kind of quickly learn something about work.

[Mecca]

Everybody look disappointed.

[Jameela]

You know, like the confinement of workday. One thing I love my Nordstrom work husband child. Mm. That was mine. Thank you. Go. Go get me something from the cafe. Something about.

[Mecca]

And the reason people don't. The thing people don't understand is the reason that work wives and work husbands is a thing is because between the hours of nine to five, when you are confined to a workspace, everybody goes. They jump up two points. You looking at a six, all of a sudden you look like eight. As soon as you step outside the workplace. Oh, my God. What the fuck? It's really a paradigm switch when you're inside of the confinement of work.

[Jameela]

Like, clock in. And all of a sudden it changes people's whole face. Like, wow. And then don't let him start doing shit like buying you lunch and bringing you lunch and bringing you snacks and shit. Hold on.

[Mecca]

And the thing is people get caught up.

[Jameela]

They get caught up. They don't know how to.

[Mecca]

They're telling the paradigm of this universe.

[Jameela]

You try and walk. Because when he walk out that door, he gonna still be a six. And then you try and walk out to the world with the six. And you had never wanted that six. He's always.

[Mecca]

That's why it's important sometimes. Go to lunch with the work ba. Outside. Go to lunch outside with the work ba. Then you can get, you know, you can shift back into reality every now.

[Jameela]

And then, like, into the situation. And then you realize, shit. Depending on your job. Oh, he make the same amount as me. We can't even go nowhere. Super duper nice, cuz, you know, like, he ain't got.

[Mecca]

He got.

[Jameela]

I know what his check look like.

[Mecca]

Look like my check.

[Jameela]

I was trying to come in here and get it and get a free meal, and I can't even get the free meal because now we gotta go half because we making the same amount. I'll be getting the up doing them. And then, and then. And then when y'all take the affairs too far and actually start on a at work.

[Mecca]

Oh, please, boo.

[Jameela]

Yeah, girl, don't. Don't leave that nigga at work. That's not your real man. Cause you know who's really good at doing work wives and work husband people who is married in real life. Because they know that shit ain't never gonna go. They, they, they. They do it so fucking well. Because the. The. The keys to having a work has been work wife. Is one never actually crossing over that boundary of, like, the work flirt. You following me? There is. I even think there's a difference between work flirting and real flirting. Because real flirting can get blurred. Them lines can blur quickly. Quickly. A, a, A work flirt. We know this is professional. This is Maybe just little. You want something? You want me to get you something when I go get.

[Mecca]

Yeah, and it's always centered around the job, right? You're not. You're not commenting on body parts you're not touching. You're saying little slick shit. Like, maybe you guys are talking shit about another coworker, you know, like, you know, you know I got you, girl. You know, talking about a meeting or something, but not. You know what I'm saying? Damn, that ass fat. Now, hold on.

[Jameela]

That was real.

[Mecca]

That was real. There's that having an ass on the way to.

[Jameela]

And then there's the piece of. Like, it's not gonna go anywhere outside of work, so they're not gonna, like. And even if someone does hit you after work, it's gonna, like you said, have to do with the job. And again, if you're married or in a relationship in real life, then you are already going to come into it. You should not all the time. We know some of the niggas ain't shit, but you should come in holding them boundaries strong. Anyway, that's why I say the perfect people to have. Work hasn't work. Wife is the one who'll be married.

[Mecca]

Exactly. Because once you're single, you get. You get. So especially if you've been single for a long time, you get desperate. You start thinking about possibilities. You'd be like, oh, wow, what if we would have sex in the laundry room? Just all sort of dumb going on.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

Like.

[Jameela]

This is the copy room call center.

[Mecca]

The hell? You start having fantasies and shit. You start dreaming. Next thing you know, you're having wet dreams and you're bringing those wet dream pussy into the workroom. And now you're still clinching and tightening and throbbing at work.

[Jameela]

But you know, motherfuckers love a work. A work relationship, though. Motherfuckers love to start fucking on the clock. Yeah, I don't. I don't play them game. That's so scary.

[Mecca]

I can't believe y'all do that.

[Jameela]

I could never be me. I've never done that.

[Mecca]

However, comma, and this is what you will know. If you have ever worked at a warehouse, you will know at least two people are in there fucking. It is the messiest environment you will ever experience in your life. I saw misery. I saw heartbreak. I saw romance. I saw so much working at that warehouse. And I wonder to this day how everyone's doing. I still still think about those people who were involved with each other. They were having lovers quarrel, mind You. Both of them were in relationships outside of the warehouse, but they were fucking in the bathroom.

[Jameela]

That's some warehouse bullshit.

[Mecca]

The warehouse was one of my funnest jobs. Based off of mess alone.

[Jameela]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mecca]

I only lasted about six weeks because I had to wake up at 4:30am.

[Jameela]

But you enjoyed all six weeks. The whole month had enjoyed all six weeks. You were clocked into they drama child.

[Mecca]

Sure was. It was so messy.

[Jameela]

That's how it was when I was at Nordstrom. Cause I worked at the Rack and I worked at Full Lion. And one thing about the Rack girls. The Rack girls get down. They don't play. They be in the break room. D left me. Okay. Then in full line. Them girls do coke.

[Mecca]

Oh, well, all right.

[Jameela]

They be hopped up in there trying.

[Mecca]

To make their commission through this retail some kind of way.

[Jameela]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I help you? Can I help you? Yeah, let me go take my. My number in.

[Mecca]

Oh, my God. Girls up there zooming.

[Jameela]

Let me say this.

[Mecca]

Can I interest you in a bag?

[Jameela]

And let me say this. When people be like, get weird and racist and nasty and disgusting and low down dirty and they be like, blame it on the coke. Mm, mm. I won't even let you do that. I met some of the most delightful cokeheads. Some of the most.

[Mecca]

For you to say that. Cokeheads, that is. Don't you ever.

[Jameela]

Don't you ever put that on that coke. Okay? Cause it is that good. That good coke that the girls be.

[Mecca]

Doing them little bumps in the bathroom.

[Jameela]

Before they clock back into from lunch.

[Mecca]

Oh, they. They was a good time after.

[Jameela]

They were the nicest bitches you ever meet. Just over there trying to sell the shoes and the. Dave Yurman and the. They were just trying to make that commission stay up. That's all they needed to be in a good mood. If you would.

[Mecca]

You just a little personality on them.

[Jameela]

Get weird and racist and want to blame it on a coke. I won't even. I won't even let you go. That's that fence. Oh, now that's something else. But that ain't that coke. You know, I wouldn't know. I don't do it. I got sinuses. But I just. I'm just. I feel very strongly that cokeheads are delightful individuals.

[Mecca]

I'm just scared of who I might be on cocaine. I, you know, I've heard the feeling that you get of feeling like a superhero. Like you're just so, like, I could do anything. Y'all don't want me on that stuff. Y'all don't Want Jameela on that stuff. I'm telling you, everybody would be scared of me. I would be.

[Jameela]

I mean, listen, listen.

[Mecca]

You ever seen Bruno Mars, baby, I'm topping him.

[Jameela]

You topping Chris Brown hitting that backflip.

[Mecca]

Let me tell you something, baby, I'm doing everything. I would be acting so goddamn erratic. Like, y'all don't need to tell. First of all, I already have positive delusions about myself. I already think I'm like, really amazing. Like I don't need to be off no goddamn cocaine thinking I'm the biggest bitch in the world.

[Jameela]

Like, that's not even. But that's what I'm saying. That's not even necessari, like what it gives. Because again, people were at work off the shits, so. And that's also obviously.

[Mecca]

But what was their personality pre coat they had?

[Jameela]

They were pretty decent, you know, like, like, I just feel like the people I seen using it, especially when it was happening at work, was more of like a stimulator. Like, oh, I just need to. Cause you know at Nordstrom you gotta. You gotta go and walk up to people and. Hey, how can I help you? Kinda, kinda like how? Liquid courage. Just powder courage. Give them a little get up and go. So I mean, I would assume they weren't doing too much, you know, but it.

[Mecca]

But discernment is key.

[Jameela]

Discernment. And you know, people who do that know their limits. It's much like drinking. Um, Exactly.

[Mecca]

And as I know, I have a two drink limit. I have a no coke limit.

[Jameela]

Yeah. I would say if I had been around in the 70s and the 80s, though, baby. Oh, crackhead.

[Mecca]

Full on the way.

[Jameela]

And this is not funny, but the way, like I've said to my dad, I'm like, ugh. If I had been around the seventies, I'd have been. And this has been like, let me tell you something. Yeah. The way my dad. The remembering. Yeah.

[Mecca]

I would have been. I would have been them doing lines of coke off some dick in the bathroom in Studio 54. I would have been that bitch.

[Jameela]

I'm walking back out.

[Mecca]

I don't know why I know that, but I just know I would have been. You know what I'm saying? I. I would have been real. I would have been real. Okay. I would have been known. Okay. I would have been in the middle of the dance floor, but you know, I would have been in every Sol train line, bitch. Okay, okay. Are you kidding me? I would have been known. I would have been one of those, like those characters, those figments of people's imagination. Like I was famous, but not famous. Like I wasn't a famous superstar. And like everybody knows Jamila from Studio 54. Cause she was there every goddamn night. That would have been me, bitch. Yeah.

[Jameela]

I'd have been in there high as hell, telling Diana Ross, now, you know you was too old to play Dorothy. You know you was too old to play Dorothy. Why you take Stephanie Mills World? Diana.

[Mecca]

Hey, sorry, Stephanie. Step your puss up. No shame.

[Jameela]

I mean, she was a teenager. Her puss was so new. Hey, hey.

[Mecca]

Diana said, I don't know. I know the boss. I know the big boss.

[Jameela]

I know the boss. Sorry. Diana would have been like, I just. I just said it needed to be done.

[Mecca]

Sorry. I knew the people that I needed to know, sister. Yeah, put me in that. If you gotta change the script up, bitch, I don't give a damn what you gotta do, bitch. I am Dorothy. I say, hey, hey, hey, you.

[Jameela]

Jermaine. Stop putting that shoe polish in your head. Don't look good.

[Mecca]

You got to respect the big bitch energy she had. I don't know.

[Jameela]

Mm. Mm. I'd have been in there talking shit. Is that shit.

[Mecca]

Well.

[Jameela]

Bitch, why you ain't got no clothes on?

[Mecca]

I would have been a delight. I would've been everybody's favorite.

[Jameela]

Is that Andy Warhol? That wig look a mess, child.

[Mecca]

Who he over there now? Who he over there bending over basket?

[Jameela]

You need to cut that shit off. Nigga.

[Mecca]

That ain't Bask. That ain't Bask over there in that corner with him, child.

[Jameela]

I'd have been.

[Mecca]

We're gonna take a break. Amber back.

[Jameela]

Who else was at Studio 54? Toni Morrison. Say something. Say something prophetic, baby.

[Mecca]

Toni Morrison was probably getting them bitches.

[Jameela]

You seen that picture of her in the military?

[Mecca]

Like, listen. Just like that baby Tony back in the day. I know she was swooping them bitches up off them feet. Come over here. Bitch in the corner.

[Jameela]

Come on, bitch.

[Mecca]

Meet me in the bathroom.

[Jameela]

Come on.

[Mecca]

Yeah, good old stud, too. Not even a stud. Good old stem. That's an old classic stim. Nah. Was a top.

[Jameela]

That's a queen Latifah.

[Mecca]

That's a top.

[Jameela]

Energy.

[Mecca]

She was a classic. A pretty lady, though.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

I'm a girl. Yeah, I know she. I know she had them bitches weak in the knees back in the day, honey.

[Jameela]

Ooh.

[Mecca]

I always. One thing I always love learning about is the old queer stories of old black Hollywood. That is some of my favorite, favorite lore. Learning about all the queerness Cause, bitch, the way everybody was gay.

[Jameela]

Bumping cooch. Everybody was bending, tripping, not tripping, and switching partners.

[Mecca]

Oh, my God. That's. Everybody was gay. Yeah, and. But it was like, one of those things where it was not widely talked about, but it wasn't a secret. And that's what I've learned throughout, you know, doing these readings and stuff. It wasn't like it was secret. They were very much out.

[Jameela]

Um, what's it. There's a documentary. It's. Fuck, it's about the guy. No, this is old Hollywood. And these are the white people. But it's the guy who used to put everyone on. Like, he basically kept a book of everyone in Hollywood who was kind of queer so that they all knew about each other and knew that they could pop at each other, basically. It's a. It's on. It's on one of the streaming. I really would just watched it.

[Mecca]

That sounds.

[Jameela]

Yeah, no, because, you know, Tab. Tab Hunter, rock cuts, like, oh, Marlon Brando was bisexual, as that nigga was. He said, take it all. I'm taking it all. Okay?

[Mecca]

Like, I want everybody.

[Jameela]

Being gay is not. Is not anything new. Like, and it's honestly, like you said, documented. And it's not a secret because someone said this. Someone on Tick Tock was making a video of, like, all the black actors for years who have been gay. And on that list, baby, Dwight is 85%. But, you know, one of the two people who they were in the comments talking about was Sherman Hensley, Mr. Jefferson and Uncle Phil. I can't think of Uncle Phil's real name right now. And there were a lot of older black people in the comments. Like, oh, baby, we knew that this is not you not telling us nothing. We didn't know we knew this. It was just, you know, back then, how'd they say was, you know, don't ask, don't tell. Back in the day, like, people knew. It was just like, I still fuck with you, baby. And that's also another piece of, like, when we talk about acceptance in our community, so many of your elders will be like, we knew about them. Like, bitch, everyone knew about Luther Vandross. Ain't nobody ever thought Luther was singing about no ladies then I know my mama.

[Mecca]

I feel like the only thing that really changed in tandem with the acceptance, of course, like, there was a wide, like, acceptance movement as we grew to be a little bit more progressive. And with that, the outward expression of your gender and your sexuality changed. You know, now you are presented with people who are into dressing More fluidly and things like that. And so it's a little bit more of that outward. But, baby, they was bumping way back, back. Okay?

[Jameela]

Everybody knew it.

[Mecca]

Everybody been bumping. Ain't nothing new about queerness. And that's why I'm always so confused at the confusion. Why are you confused that people are gay? I always have this theory that the majority of people are a little gay.

[Jameela]

That's why you say sexuality is a spectrum, because you can be like, oh, I'm attracted to this, but maybe I don't want to sleep with this. Whether regardless of what the gender is, it's a spectrum. Everybody a little gay. Niggas be gay sometimes.

[Mecca]

Everybody. Like, what's the big deal?

[Jameela]

I feel like I've told this story before. My grandmother's. My grandmother was born in, like, the early 1920s. She. Her first cousin was a trans woman born Willie Mae, died Willa Mae. And like, Willa Mae did not come around after she transitioned, though. But my grandma and her were, like, best cousins, I guess, essentially. And so my grandma kept, like, these letters. And so when my grandma died, we found the letters from Willa Mae, and my mom and Tata basically, like, pieced everything together that, oh, this is the cousin that was, like, gay. Because when Willa Mae left, he was Willie Mae. And then this happened as, like, life was going on. And Willa Mae passed away during, like, the AIDS epidemic. So many black people also have a gay relative who died during the AIDS epidemic.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say the AIDS epidemic, you know, nothing new really ravished our community. I think it's interesting that when we talk about the crack epidemic and we talk about how it ravaged our community, we don't also talk about how AIDS came in around the same time. And so we're dealing with both. So while crack absolutely ravaged our community, we also have to talk about how the HIV AIDS ravaged our community too. Because while, yes, our government really, really fucked up royally because it was seen and spoken as a gay disease, you have to always add those marginalizations.

[Jameela]

That was the administration.

[Mecca]

Exactly. You have to always add those marginalizations because you have to think about the poor black queer folks that were being affected and not treated equally than their counterparts. So they died at a higher rate than everybody else. So it's like, yeah, the 80s us up royally in so many different ways. And it's like, damn. Like, that's why.

[Jameela]

That's why they act like that when you ask about your mama and your grandma, why they act so goddamn crazy. That's why they act like that for real.

[Mecca]

Well, everybody was.

[Jameela]

That's why be oh, you should not be able to walk around Brooklyn. Okay, well, you're mad because it's safe now. Not. Not the gentrification part, but you know that that's just in. In, in like the hood when. When be oh used to not be able to. Why is you trying to shit on us? Because the neighborhood's a little bit safer now.

[Mecca]

God forbid I try to have a safer life.

[Jameela]

God forbid, like the kids can go outside and play now. There's not crack pipes and needles in the streets. No more like.

[Mecca]

Okay, like.

[Jameela]

Like it's a flex. Sorry.

[Mecca]

Honestly, old people love to flex about their fucking struggle, bitch. I don't.

[Jameela]

But you know, they. They've gone through it and so at some level you gotta let em have it because they really did have to live through that shit and have to figure it out.

[Mecca]

Congrats to them.

[Jameela]

Yeah, congrats y'all.

[Mecca]

Made it through so that we can thrive and talk about it now on this podcast.

[Jameela]

And for that we thank you.

[Mecca]

Shout out to the 80s.

[Jameela]

We stand on your show.

[Mecca]

An iconic decade. The 80s brought us so much crack, baby.

[Jameela]

Rest in peace to doll.

[Mecca]

The 80s brought us the Thriller album.

[Jameela]

Yes, it did.

[Mecca]

And crack cocaine.

[Jameela]

Transformation of Michael Jackson as a whole.

[Mecca]

The spectrum. The spectrum of the 80s. And you can go. There's so much highs of the 80s and so many lows. The spectrum of the 80s is gone, but never forgotten.

[Jameela]

Michael entered the 80s black and left Puerto Rican child. Like so much happened during that decade.

[Mecca]

He just always. When nobody even talk about that.

[Jameela]

He did leave a Spaniard. But Bad is like his top three album. I wonder. He could have done, you know, like a chata beater. What is that what the music is called? Bachata.

[Mecca]

He could have did a what?

[Jameela]

Like, am I saying that right? Bachata.

[Mecca]

What are you saying?

[Jameela]

The music.

[Mecca]

Bachata.

[Jameela]

Bachata. I'm saying that that's what it's called, right?

[Mecca]

The way you're saying it, like bachata.

[Jameela]

It's no bachata. It's a. It's a spin.

[Mecca]

I'm telling you. Bachata.

[Jameela]

I knew I saw him say it's bachata. He should have definitely done a Spanish beat. Michael Jackson X Bad Bunny vibes. It would. He would have ate. I mean, he looked like bonito by the end of the 80s.

[Mecca]

Let's wrap this up. Let's spin it.

[Jameela]

We're going to take a break.

[Mecca]

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[Jameela]

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[Jameela]

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[Jameela]

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[Mecca]

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[Jameela]

So welcome to our segment Spin it where you can send us your low down, your salacious, your messy situations. Don't forget you have to include your age. We are not PR professionals. Jamila and I just studied communications in college and we love the hustle. Don't forget to email unhinged anymore podmail.com to send us your situations. Jameela what do we have?

[Mecca]

Hey Jameela and Mecca. I love listening to you guys and I hope you continue to flourish this year. Hopefully I'm not giving too much away. Backstory I am unfortunately a Covid grad. I graduated from high school and entered college during the Pandemic, so I was mostly inside at the beginning of my college career. Coupled with taking a semester off, I didn't get most of the college experience. I'm also studying to become a PR girlie and the number one rule is don't do your own PR. Now here are a little tidbit. I 23 broke up with my ex in August of three years together since I was 19 and he was 20. It was mutual and it was a nasty breakup. We still mess around with each other to this day. I will be seeing him during my stay in his city. However, he was my first boyfriend slash everything and I do mean everything. And now I'm back in the field. It's treacherous out here. I feel like I've lost my aura and I'm letting the boys eat me up. I'm not looking for anything serious, but the lack of respect leaves Little to be desired. I'm tired of keeping my nose in the books and not having some decent fun. So, Jameela and Mecca, seeing as your honorary Hampton alums, can you tell me how to speak? Spend my last semester here in the Norfolk, Virginia area. We need to go out with a bang. Thank you.

[Jameela]

Oh, wow. So you're in Norfolk too?

[Mecca]

I think she said so. Norfolk slash Virginia Beach.

[Jameela]

Ooh, treacherous waters over there. Those slave ship Navy waters.

[Mecca]

My advice is to be.

[Jameela]

Now get your ass.

[Mecca]

I feel like I know what Mecca is going to say. I knew what Mecca was going to say. I'm going to say the exact opposite. Stay clear the fuck away from any nigga who's in the military. There's nothing fun about military niggas. I don't know what see be in.

[Jameela]

The water, but bullshit.

[Mecca]

But my. I'm going to give you my advice. Stay clear from the. From the military niggas and honestly, probably steer clear from the locals. That. That. That's just my personal advice if you want to have a real good experience. But if you want to just fuck off and you just want to, like, find you a quick little nigga, I mean, go out, go to the bars, spot them out, find you a fine one, grab them and snatch them, Communicate, chat, chitchat, you have to go outside, don't, you know, be indoors all the time, but stay away from that goddamn ship. But go ahead me and tell her to go on that ship.

[Jameela]

I was princess of the ship, child. So my experience is a little bit different with the military because I did not allow myself to be trapped by the military. I did what you're supposed to do, and I went and I had my fun and then I left. Right. Um, you said that you've already had your relationship, you're still seeing your ex, but you're not interested in anything serious. So that would lead me to believe that you're just trying to fuck off and have fun and you're trying to go out with a ban your last semester in the 757. Cool.

[Mecca]

Great.

[Jameela]

There is a ship full of niggas to have fun with. Just make sure that, like, you're also say you're doing the bending, if that's what you're into. But when I say you're doing the bending, I mean, like, make sure you're in control of the situation. You know, I'm saying, like, don't allow yourself to be swept up by them. Now what you can do, have them take you to them nice restaurants on a fucking water. Like Virginia beach has such, like, breath, prettiness. It's like it all almost makes you forget that our ancestors were fucking packed into ships like sardines and brought in on them in exact fucking waters. And the ports are still fucking there. You know what I'm saying? It almost makes you forget that slight piece. Make, like, run through them niggas, make sure. And make sure they're paying your way. Because if Your education is 23, if they've been in the military since 18, they should have ranked up a couple times and they should be making a decent amount. Don't be fucking with the ones who still live on the ship. And they just got there. They ain't got no money. That's my advice.

[Mecca]

Mopping the floors.

[Jameela]

And they'd be mopping the floors. Make sure you fucking with the ones. Because they got everybody over there. They got the army, they got the Navy, they got the Air Force. I had fucked with Air Force boy. The reserves is over there, you know, 75 7. A military town, military area. You also, if. If you're still in school, have you.

[Mecca]

Not thought about dating any niggas in school?

[Jameela]

Like, I know.

[Mecca]

Like, that's not always true, though. Like, if she's a senior, by the time you're a senior, like, the senior boys definitely be having jobs and things going on. But especially if you're just, like, on campus and you're just trying to find something to do, like, have somebody to talk to, a little stuff like that. Like, I feel like dating people who are in your vicinity is always easier, especially if you're just, like, getting into that for real.

[Jameela]

Like, girl, start, start, start small. If you wanted to bounce around to the other schools, this, at least with Hampton. Hampton was such a small school. Like, I literally seen someone from Hampton yesterday at the motherfucking club. Like, by the time after year one at Hampton, literally middle of sophomore year, you know every nigga at that school. I don't. And I know NSU was like a state school, but it wasn't like, like, you want. You want to experience some new niggas. And the military got new niggas every. Them niggas got a whole bunch of drops. Every six months. It's a drop of new niggas. It's a batch of new niggas coming on the ship, and that's what you're trying to get on some new niggas.

[Mecca]

Another tidbit that you could do, which is like, it'll take a little bit more planning, but take a Weekend trip to D.C. girl, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Then you'll have exposure to people who are already in their field, who are working them good, solid government jobs.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that could be work.

[Mecca]

I mean, they're probably not going to be decent, but you never expect the man to be decent. Unfortunately, you have to go with the expectation that they're not. Not going to be decent. But you might stumble upon something. Take a little weekend trip to D.C. take a weekend trip to New York.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Mecca]

The oyster is yours.

[Jameela]

Don't go to Baltimore. They don't. They don't take you on dates or nothing. Ain't nothing out there.

[Mecca]

I don't think I've ever experienced a Baltimorean, so I can't speak on that, but I do understand that accent is probably not something I could do long term. It's a bit too much for me. So.

[Jameela]

Yeah. Hey, yo, I was on YouTube. Had my little nephew trying to find the blues clues. Then I seen somebody.

[Mecca]

It's just like, can you listen to that every night? If you can go for it. I for sure cannot.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

But, yeah, you don't really need. Don't spin it. Let me tell y'all this before we wrap this up. Before y'all send your. Spin it in, think to yourself, did I need this advice, y'all? You. You knew what to do.

[Jameela]

They just want to hear it from us, which. I'm fine. Go fuck something.

[Mecca]

Yeah, but come on, now. You know by this point, y'all know we're going to say. I want to hear some situations. There's not even a situation. Young moms.

[Jameela]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Little bit young. Grasshopper.

[Jameela]

Y'all was s. Situations.

[Mecca]

Situation. That was easy peasy. That you broke up with a. And you want to date another one. Do it. Get a dating app. Do all the things.

[Jameela]

I was Tinderella back in the day.

[Mecca]

You can do all the things. You're so young. Go out to the club.

[Jameela]

At my lowest, I was paying for hinge out, bitch. That was like, Covid, fresh off the breakup. I was down bad. And then I convinced Darrington to pay for hinge with me.

[Mecca]

But paying due.

[Jameela]

Paying gives you unlimited. Like, you know how hinge don't only let you say yes five times a day or something like that? And you have unlimited roses or something. Something like that. But what had happened was I couldn't do it alone. So I convinced Darrington to pay for it with me. Cause it was like $20. And I remember you on the. Oh, bitch, I was on the phone. Like, I mean, darrington you've spent $20 on dumber shit. And this nigga was like, you right, you right. And so we both had Hinge unlimited for like three months.

[Mecca]

But the.

[Jameela]

And mind you, I was so sick in the brain that I really only used it like the last month that I had it for real. The first two months, I was just sadly swiping because I was still heartbroken. And that's my trauma.

[Mecca]

Don't try to say it was my. Because the trauma that was. That was just you being thirsty.

[Jameela]

I didn't even. You.

[Mecca]

You wanted unlimited access to.

[Jameela]

I just needed.

[Mecca]

You was horny than a.

[Jameela]

No, I wasn't.

[Mecca]

I need all of the men I want to send all.

[Jameela]

I need unlimited niggas.

[Mecca]

I'm so sad. Like, bitch whole thing. Y'all better not pay no damn $20 for no damn Hinge.

[Jameela]

And then the niggas I was fucking on, why didn't even meet them on Hinge. I met them at the motherfucking Towson.

[Mecca]

That's how it's going to always happen. Honestly, in my experience, the dating apps is really just kind of get your feet wet. Just kind of get you back used to like talking to guys, but in real reality, like the guys that you're going to talk to for a long period of time. And when I say long period of time, I mean more than two weeks, you're not meeting them on the app. You're just not. Yeah, you're just not.

[Jameela]

They're more likely to.

[Mecca]

Now, I do know somebody that did get engaged to a Hinge.

[Jameela]

Are they married?

[Mecca]

They will be by the end of this year.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Mecca]

So I was like, oh, but that's like one in the billion. No shade. Like everybody else is like his brother.

[Jameela]

And his sister in law men on like, okay.

[Mecca]

Like when you hear that, it'd be like, oh, okay. But like that's. Don't think that's gonna be your reality, bitch. And that's not. Ain't no shade. That's just. I want you to be prepared that the niggas on dating apps. Like, I feel like n get on dating apps for a different reason than girls do. A lot of times I feel like girls get on dating apps because again, it. It's an easy way to like meet guys and they just kind of want to start getting back into the swing of dating and things like that. Especially if they've not been dating for a while that they haven't had a luck get on Hinge because it's a limitless access of and they just be.

[Jameela]

Wanting to see, and I'll be honest.

[Mecca]

Go out and I'm trying to think.

[Jameela]

Of like the people I've met on dating apps. Those never the people I end up with. For real. Yeah, I did meet my abortion baby daddy on Bumble, but abortion baby daddy.

[Mecca]

So you know, Mecca has experience on every dating app. Mecca is the ambassador of dating apps, is the case study for dating apps.

[Jameela]

Case study because again, they use her.

[Mecca]

As a litmus test for dating apps. Just send it to Mecca. She'll let us know if it's right. Am I lying, Mecca?

[Jameela]

I mean, I haven't been on dating. I haven't been active on the apps in probably that wasn't the question. No, because what I'm saying as the litmus test for dating apps, I understand that the culture of the apps change.

[Mecca]

Have you or have you not been on every dating app known to man?

[Jameela]

I mean, I've been on the main three. I believe I can, I can give, I can, I feel like I can give you a good synopsis of all the apps and I'll do it here right now. Now, again, I have not been active on the apps in probably almost three years. And the culture of the dating apps does change from year to year. For example, during the pandemic, especially when it first started, Hinge was a little bit different. Hinge was for the upper echelon, you know what I'm saying? Hinge was, Hinge was an app that you went, you, if you were trying to be on Tinder, that was fucking the niggas on Hinge wanted to take you on dates. Now Hinge has turned into a high class Tinder. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, so I can tell you what it was maybe two, three years ago, but I don't know if it's completely accurate now. Now Bumble was, you know, obviously started by the people who started Tinder. The, the couple. And she took it and gave the power back to the women. Women have to swipe yes on you for the match to happen on Bumble. Bumble is. I, I would suggest if, like you're, if you're a little scared of being rejected, possibly not that you would actually know, but Bumble just makes the woman feel a little bit more in control. I never, it was never my favorite app because I liked seeing what niggas like wanted me, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I was always a Hinge girl. Like I, but I, I did meet my abortion baby daddy on Bumble. Like I was on Bumble for like a brief day. It was. It's crazy because I was on bubble for like three days and I met him during that three day span. What would my life have been like if I hadn't downloaded Bumble? Who knows? But that's. We're not even here to talk about that. Tinder, they just want to fuck horrible. They like. And they let you have full on dick pics as your thing on Tinder. Yeah, it's horrible. BLK is the fucking trenches, the gutter of the butt. And I'm not saying that because it's the black app. I'm saying that because it sounds like the land of hope. Like, I can't. I'm just like, blk. Oh. I just hate that. It's.

[Mecca]

I feel like it's nothing but sister queen, sister queen, queen, sister, sister queen.

[Jameela]

That and like. Oh. It's just. It's just not necessarily. BLK has the same vibe as Facebook dating, which I also was briefly on for a second because I just wanted to see what was going on over there. And Facebook dating is exactly what you would imagine Facebook dating to be, full stop. I will not be explaining that the.

[Mecca]

Fact that you even experienced Facebook dating, mind you. I only know Facebook dating is a thing because of you.

[Jameela]

I will say I met my Mexican boo on blk.

[Mecca]

What the fuck was he doing on there? Is it not for blacks only?

[Jameela]

Like what?

[Mecca]

Is there no criteria?

[Jameela]

I mean, there's. It's not like they said, you can't come in. What do them people be like? They invited him to the cookout and he going. He said, I want everybody to come to fiesta with me. He's like, you're so beautiful, mommy. That's when. During the pandemic, when I was in LA a lot. He was in la. You're so beautiful. He had like that Spanish LA accent. You're so beautiful, Mommy. You're so thick. I loved him so bad. I'm not gonna lie to you. That was my babe. That was my motherfucking bookie. That just didn't work out because I didn't. I was no longer gonna live in California. Otherwise, I might have tried to make that work. And he was. He was a mailman. Shout out to the blue collar boys.

[Mecca]

I think I've had enough. The same way you guys learn new information about Mecca every week. So do I. I want y'all to know that Mecca is full of secrets and lore that I will never fully know. Y'all think I'm joking. I find out new information. New information about Mecca. Literally every goddamn week. I don't know what the hell be going on over there. She just be dropping. Oh, yeah, by the way, like, I did this. What are you talking about?

[Jameela]

A little recreational soccer game. He liked soccer.

[Mecca]

I bet that was a little racist Shade, but I mean, hey. No, it wasn't.

[Jameela]

I wasn't Mexican. He was in a recreational soccer league.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say because he's Mexican, but I was gonna say if they're Mexican, Caribbean, or a little bit of West African, they love soccer.

[Jameela]

Nigerians love soccer. So do Kenyan people. I know a lot about soccer. Yeah. Actually, I was never a soccer person.

[Mecca]

Outside of the US Football, like, one of the most.

[Jameela]

Yeah, it's like the most popular.

[Mecca]

Famous. Not famous. Yes, the most popular sport.

[Jameela]

So it's like the World cup is actually coming to Houston in a couple years. They're redoing all of NRG for it. And I've actually had, like, family members.

[Mecca]

Be like, super bowl coming back to Atlanta too. I think, like, not next year, but maybe the year after that. I can't remember. But that's going to be fun. Okay.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that will be fun.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Anyways, I guess we should get into some of these.

[Jameela]

We can get to the comments. Can you imagine if I had had little lexicon babies? That would have been fun.

[Mecca]

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[Jameela]

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[Mecca]

All right, y'all, so we're about to read a couple of yalls comments and reviews that y'all have been leaving us from the past episodes. Please remember to, like, comment, subscribe and. Or is it subscribe on everything? I don't know. Subscribe. You already know the deal. New episodes every Thursday. So I'm going to start with some of those comments from Spotify. I absolutely love this pod. As a senior in college, I feel like I'm listening to my big sisters talk to me every week. Love y'all so bad. Thank you for giving me at least an hour of laughter. In my day. You are so welcome. Spot s. Thank you. @ ar will said. Not me squeezing my titties at my. At my office. Desm. Y'all have these white people thinking I'm a freak. Love y'all. Thank you for being you. Got squeeze some tits baby.

[Jameela]

Test the dots.

[Mecca]

KB says Mecca. I remember shoes. The shoes rule. The shoes suck.

[Jameela]

Exactly.

[Mecca]

I still don't know what it is.

[Jameela]

So many people were commenting shoes so I knew I'm wasn't crazy. Black people knew about shoes too.

[Mecca]

At Kiara O or nah Kiara or nah Jamila is a fool. Coochie swab and blood gots to do all the things T.Johns360 said. At least 15 minutes of this episode is the definition of unhinged. It's true. Hawkins said y'all lmao.

[Jameela]

Was that it for that one? Okay, so I have got the YouTube comments. Kiera Ganey 5099 said, this is my favorite episode that y'all have done. Literally. A brush of a breath of fresh air. Thank you. Kiara. And mirabu94 said our thought process was definitely non existent. When we were young, I watched Matilda and my papa made me mad. One day I went and put baby oil in his rubbing alcohol. L. And I'm. And I'm the only child in that house. So he knew it was me. My mom pretty much said everybody in the house other than you got common sense not to do that. So it had to be you. Lo. I'm busted. Literally. When Matilda put that paroxy in her daddy shit. I was just watching that yesterday. Destiny. Todd72 or I'm sorry. 7429 said this episode had me in full tears. Especially as someone who needs their glasses. I just know that lady was livid. I was like jamila. Like that's crazy as fuck. Like mo uncut. I'm crying. I don't know why that name has me screaming. Said love y'all crazy tail selves. Leave Britney alone Was definitely my favorite pop culture moment. As a West African born array American raised girly about Nigeria. They really think they're the only country. Please love a girl oh, love a girl. Jazz said my favorite pop culture moment was definitely when pumpkin spit on New York. Whoa. Being five years old and seeing that in real time. Insane. Definitely core memory for me.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

That was crazy when it happened in real. Like it was insane.

[Mecca]

Slap me bitch. Like whoa. Oh reality tv. I was there.

[Jameela]

That's why it's like the Kenya Moore shit. What are we talking about? We watched Pumpkin Hawk Spit. But anyway, my shara. Oh, Sherry412 said I still quote Bella Noche when I go out. Yes, he was beefing at that wedding. Never leave my beefing at that wedding.

[Mecca]

So we just got one that I'm a read from YouTube. The caption is weird dreams. At ago 3:16, Jamila mentioned she had a reoccurring dreams about killing someone. I too had similar dreams at times so vivid where I woke up thinking I'd actually committed a crime. In my dreams, I'd kill someone and dispose of their body similar by burial. I don't know. Maybe it's indicative of stress. I've never shared this before, but it's reassuring knowing that it happens to others. Yeah, parallel universe self definitely correlates with.

[Jameela]

You guys need to stop talking about this. Seriously.

[Mecca]

Listen, my dreams definitely correlate with my temperament. Like when I'm fully like, aware however I'm feeling when I'm awake and things. It will translate into my dreams. Maybe I can talk about that in another episode. But I am a seer. I am. Hate to get spooky ooky, but I have powers.

[Jameela]

Okay, Good day. And I can kegel. So yeah, do we have any church announcements? I guess we'll lead this in. We will be in Dallas this weekend at the Rooted in Rhythm festival. We will be hosting, but then we'll also be hosting a brunch on Easter Sunday. I might pop into church, who knows? I don't know what's going on, but we're gonna be in Dallas all this weekend, so definitely excited. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Make sure you guys get your tickets now before they sell out. And I think that's really it for this week.

[Jameela]

All right.

[Mecca]

See you guys next Thursday.

[Jameela]

Bye.

[Mecca]

Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca, produced by Melissa D.

[Jameela]

Mont and Diamond Imprint Productions, post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistant by Melanie.

[Mecca]

D. Watson, music by Adi and Brooklyn Billionaires and graphics by Claudia Choi.