Front Row Seat Ft Malik S | Unhinged & Immoral EP67

Summary

Unhinged & Immoral EP67 – “Front Row Seat” Ft. Malik S

Podcast: Unhinged & Immoral
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Guest: Malik S (comedian, actor, writer)
Date: May 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features comedian, actor, and writer Malik S, known for his versatility and candid humor. Jamila and Mecca, two zillenial best friends with roots in PR, lead an unfiltered, energetic, and frequently hilarious conversation touching on Malik’s journey in comedy and television, the realities of content creation, Black culture’s relationship with entertainment and celebrity, and the importance of representation and family. The episode seamlessly blends pop culture dissection, frank talk about digital fame, and plenty of personal anecdote and banter, offering both insight and laughs for listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy as a Changing Art Form

• Resurgence of Stand-Up:
  – Jamila and Mecca reflect on how stand-up seemed to fade from the limelight but feel it’s made a comeback.
  – Malik’s take: “Probably not, because I’m in it, so I didn’t notice… Social media has made people consume comedy in different ways now.” (05:28)
• Social Media’s Influence:
  – Discussion about TikTok, brain-rot content, and short attention spans.
  – “Y’all will watch four hours of people falling and makeup tutorials.” (Malik S, 05:54)
• The Necessity of Being Multi-Hyphenate:
  – With so much content online, Malik emphasizes: “You can’t do one thing… If you coming up now, you gotta be able to… do a podcast, write a book… do something on social media, just to keep your name relevant.” (07:41)

2. Staying Relevant & Navigating Celeb Culture

• Hyper-fast News Cycle:
  – The group pokes fun at how quickly scandals are forgotten, but also how, for Black entertainers, talent often trumps controversy: “If you make a hotbeat, you can do anything to Black people.” (Malik S, 09:17)
• Celebrity Accountability:
  – Conversation about R. Kelly: “He’s paying for it… but if you was still out here doing it, then no, I can’t.” (Malik S, 09:56)
• Generational Media Habits:
  – Jamila and Mecca identify as “zillenials”—old enough for dial-up, young enough for TikTok.
  – “We’re the first year of Gen Z, so technically we’re zillenials.” (Mecca, 06:23)

3. Inside the Writer’s Room & Creative Process

• Acting and Writing Synergy:
  – “I always just put a little me in it. That’s what makes people like an actor… You want a piece of that person within the character.” (Malik S, 12:44)
• Comedy Writing for TV:
  – Not all stand-ups make great sitcom writers: “They just being funny, they’re not being funny for the show, for the situation, for the plot.” (Malik S, 19:56)
• Navigating Rejection in Hollywood:
  – “90% of the stuff you do… don’t go the way you think it’s gonna go.” (Malik S, 28:14) – Having a stable mindset: “At some point, you just gotta look at it like…it’s just another gig. I’m paying my bills, my family’s cool, I’m doing what I love.” (Malik S, 30:14)

4. Identity, Culture & Black Representation

• Haitian Heritage and “Laughing Voodoo”:
  – Malik breaks down the meaning behind his special’s title, using “voodoo” as an inversion of stereotype: “My voodoo is making people laugh… it’s another way to put some light on my people.” (32:42) – Deeper commentary on how white supremacy has pitted Black ethnicities against each other and stigmatized voodoo as evil, “but America has branded it… so evil, why y’all still oppressing them? Why they not using it to stop you?” (Malik S, 34:05)
• Caribbean and Afro-Latinx Experiences:
  – Discussion on the divide between Haitians and Dominicans, colorism, and how media shapes perception: “It’s an imaginary line… what the media presents as Haitian and what the media presents as Dominican…” (Mecca, 36:36; Malik, 37:01)
• Generational and Regional Blackness:
  – The divisiveness fostered within the diaspora: “They’ve done that to us… You hate this person because a white man told you to hate, they ain’t do nothing to you.” (Malik S, 35:21)

5. Personal Anecdotes, Parenting & Growing Up

• Malik Opens Up about Family:
  – Describes dynamic as a father: “Daughters is different, man. But I love it. I love being a father. I love my kids.” (57:14)
• On Making Adult Choices:
  – “If I didn’t have kids, I can think of two incidents where I would have made the wrong decision and probably would have went to jail… you think about like, this is bigger than me…” (Malik S, 58:12)
• Joking About Generations:
  – Mecca and Jamila riff on being “aunties” in their thirties: “The kids say anything after 24 is auntie.” (Mecca, 51:22)
• On Career and Bills:
  – “Today is the youngest I’m going to be.” (Malik S, 60:02) – Banter about the perpetual grind of adulthood and bills: “Why bills don’t be free? Why Trump don’t be like, ‘No bills next month’?” (Malik S, 60:30)

6. Career Advice & The Business Side

• PR Spin Audience Segment – Listener writes in asking for advice about balancing being a doctor with wanting to create content:
  “If you’re a doctor, lean on that. Make content for that audience, there’s an audience out there for it.” (Malik S, 71:51) – Jamila: “You could be like, listen, I just left the office, we finna go on vacation… you have a lot of different avenues you can go because you’re so interesting already.” (73:36) – Both stress the value of not quitting your career too soon: “Especially with the schedules they have, they don't even work a lot. They work like firefighters.” (Malik S, 75:46)
• Content Creation & Burnout:
  – Honest discussion on the pitfalls of internet fame, after quitting 9-to-5s: “Imagine being at work and people come up to you like, ‘Bitch, what you doing here?’ Bitch, I’m poor!” (Jamila, 76:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I don’t trust two pair of glasses.” – Malik S, ribbing the hosts about their nerdy-chic looks (01:30)
• “Florida dudes are cool.” – Malik S (02:46)
• “You like a little light choke.” – Malik S, to Mecca, in one of many spicy asides (03:24)
• “If you make a hot beat, you can do anything to Black people.” – Malik S, on celebrity accountability (09:26)
• “My voodoo is making people laugh.” – Malik S, on naming his special (32:42)
• “Y’all don’t require much talent. Your generations don’t require much talent.” – Malik S, on newer music and celebrity (50:22)
• On his daughter’s Starbucks habit: “I’m still gonna do it, but I’m gonna complain.” – Malik S (56:42)
• “You could lean into that part. Encourage young girls to have four degrees.” – Malik S, to a listener asking about content creation (72:39)
• “He’s paying for his crime… the man gotta eat. I’m gonna stream it.” – Malik S, on public division over canceled artists (09:56)
• On growing up Haitian in Miami:
  “When I was younger, the only people…trying to bully Haitian people was Black people…Who told you to hate Haitian people?…The white man told you to hate them, and then here you are.” (Malik S, 35:07)
• “If you tell your friend anything for real, if they have a spouse, you might as well tell them both together.” – Malik S on relationship gossip (26:49)
• “You gotta be able to do everything. If you look at a lot of especially Black actors, they all direct now.” – Malik S (44:10)

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Timestamps by Segment

• [00:59] – Malik’s intro: Miami, comedy roots, HBCUs
• [05:28] – Social media vs. traditional stand-up, content consumption
• [07:41] – Career longevity, staying relevant, multi-hyphenate necessity
• [09:17] – Celebrity culture & accountability in the Black community
• [12:40] – Acting and writing process, bringing self to roles
• [19:12] – Differences between joke-writing and sitcom writing
• [28:14] – Coping with Hollywood rejection; “Black AF” insights
• [31:39] – Title and meaning behind “Laughing Voodoo,” representation
• [34:05] – Discussing voodoo, stereotypes, division in Black communities
• [36:36] – Media, perception: Haitian & Dominican identity
• [44:39] – Need for more Black directors and industry diversity
• [51:22] – Generational labels: aunties and young hoes
• [57:14] – Parenting, fatherhood, raising teens
• [61:01] – Men’s health, going to the doctor, cultural taboos
• [68:45] – PR Spin advice segment: doctor & content creation
• [82:21] – Top five rapper debate
• [91:04] – Malik’s special “Laughing Voodoo” (watch on YouTube)
• [91:16] – Stand-up tips and encouragement for Mecca/Jamila

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, unfiltered, irreverent—frank talk filled with laughter, honesty, and teases.
• Frequent playful roasting and spicy, sometimes risqué banter, consistent with the “messy” branding.
• Socially conscious, with willing detours into deeper conversations about race, identity, and generational change.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

• The episode offers a vibrant mix of inside stories from Hollywood/comedy, real talk on Black identity and fame, and actionable advice for those contemplating creative careers.
• Provides both optimism about staying true to oneself and practical, sometimes sobering reminders about the realities of entertainment and culture work.
• Listeners get a window into evolving digital media landscapes, the intersection of Blackness with both joy and pain, and why every “auntie” still deserves to get on TikTok.

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Links:

• YouTube: Malik S "Laughing Voodoo" Special
• Instagram/Twitter: @MalikSComedy
• Submit “Spin It” questions: unhingedinmoralpodmail.com

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I'm good. I'm alive. I walked. I can blink. I can move my limbs.

[A]

I know that's right. Now, you said you was a little nervous.

[B]

Yeah. Cause y' all look innocent, so that's a dead giveaway.

[A]

Well, you do stand up. I just feel like anybody who does stand, like, you're fine.

[B]

You.

[A]

You good.

[B]

Nah. Cause y' all two young black women with innocent face. So that mean y' all be digging in people lives.

[A]

Oh, we gonna dig. Oh, yeah. No, no. We're a little messy.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I already knew. I was like, I don't tr.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I don't trust two pair of glasses.

[A]

Mind you, mine are fake. Mine just for the aesthetic. I'm actually blind, so.

[B]

Yeah, I don't trust it.

[A]

At least. Well, you know.

[B]

And one of them aka no.

[A]

And he from Miami.

[B]

And I'm from Miami. I know akas. I went to hbcu, so.

[A]

Ooh, what HBCU you went to?

[B]

I went to Florida Memorial University in Miami.

[A]

Ooh, Florida Memorial.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think. I've never heard of that. Really?

[B]

It used to be a college, and then we just. A couple years ago, they went to university.

[A]

Oh, period. Yeah. Teach us something new. My godmother went to famu, so that's like when I think HBCU in Florida. That's why. So is it close to famu?

[B]

No, it's in Miami.

[A]

No, it's. Yeah, the famous. Maybe.

[B]

I don't know where you're in Tallahassee.

[A]

I just know Florida. Yeah, that's big.

[B]

FAMU's in Tallahassee. Bethune's in Daytona. And.

[A]

Okay, my cousin went to Bethune. Yep.

[B]

That's in Daytona, all right.

[A]

I used to talk to a boy from Bethune. Terrible guy.

[B]

We ain't need to know all that. You can just say, I talk to a guy Bethune all the.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. I saw the Haitian flag in your bio.

[B]

Yeah, but then you connected it to the school. You just made it like the school just took it straight.

[A]

Everything is connected. You ever, like, you never heard of the statement Florida man Morehouseman? It's all the same.

[B]

Okay, but we cool, though. Florida dudes are cool.

[A]

Really?

[B]

You talked to one?

[A]

I talked to a couple.

[B]

Was he from Florida, or did he just go to Bethune?

[A]

No, no, no. He was from Florida. He's from Jacksonville.

[B]

Okay. Duval.

[A]

Mm. He was crazy. But he cuts real good, though. Y' all cut real good.

[B]

See, the thing is, he not even here to defend himself. We just hearing your side of the story, so trust me, I don't Never.

[A]

Now, ladies, you know, if a man from Jacksonville, Florida, he's crazy.

[B]

I'm not even capping the whole Jacksonville.

[A]

I think every man I dated in Jacksonville is crazy.

[B]

But you got a. You say you talk to a couple, so you like it.

[A]

Well, I'm crazy myself. Gangster got me.

[B]

You kind of like the little Florida. You like it. You like a little light choke, look like, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

A light choke.

[B]

Don't leave no pranks.

[A]

Well, our audience knows this is a nomination.

[B]

Listen, I'm a good reader of character, man.

[A]

Me and my glasses.

[B]

Yeah, when them glasses come off, boy, ain't no telling.

[A]

No, we keep the glasses on.

[B]

Oh, oh, okay.

[A]

Steamed, steamed up glasses. I'm really blind. I got to be able to see what I'm doing.

[B]

You that bad? For real?

[A]

No. Yeah. I was that baby in, like, goggles. I've been wearing glasses since I was in first grade.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[A]

Everyone's always like, would you get Lasik? I'm like, no, they're like a part of my face, right? Like, I'm 30 now, so it's like I've been wearing it more longer, like, most Miller, right? Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm starting to. Like, I can see great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, menus. I need a little light.

[A]

That's. That a. You need that reader that said A's.

[B]

But the thing is. No, I asked. I went to the doctor, to the eye doctor, and she's like, you can see. So I'm not gonna give you glasses, but you need readers.

[A]

Yeah. You can get them at a dollar

[B]

tree, but I'm not gonna be walking

[A]

around throwing them out the pocket. I'm like.

[B]

I just pull out my flashlight.

[A]

I'm crying. When you get to doing this here.

[B]

Yeah, that's. But the thing is, I hate it. Cause I'm like, well, just give me glasses. Like, you don't need glasses.

[A]

Yeah. Cause there's a certain level to actually need glasses.

[B]

I'm like. But I. Cause I can see great. It's just like, if you. That little print, it gets spooky.

[A]

That little print.

[B]

And she says it's the lighting. Yeah, if the lighting is good, I could read it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Cause, you know, restaurants be dim. They do be dim.

[B]

I can't see nothing.

[A]

I don't like dark restaurants.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It feels like y' all trying to set me up. They are getting old gratuity, you know. Okay, well, let's get into a couple of things. So, of course, you just dropped your special, and we'll get into a little bit more of that later. But I want to talk about what it means to be a standup comedian, because I think there is a little bit of a disappearance that I recognize. I don't know if anybody else recognizes it, but I feel like there was, like, a peak of standup, and then we kind of, like, went away from it, and I feel like it's kind of back. I feel like the art of standup is back mainstream. Do you feel like you experienced that as well?

[B]

Probably not, because I'm in it, so I probably didn't notice that, but I can see how you could feel that way. But I think it's. Social media has made people consume comedy in different ways now. So especially, you know, you're 30, and you're probably the same age. You know, you guys, y' all get off work or whatever, y' all would get on TikTok for four hours and just go to bed.

[A]

Well, yes.

[B]

Y' all don't watch nothing. Well, I think.

[A]

Well, everything is on TikTok for us to watch.

[B]

What I'm saying is. But y' all don't watch. Y' all don't watch programming or y' all don't watch a standup special. Y' all will watch four hours of people falling and makeup tutorials.

[A]

And then you gotta clip it up. You got to clip part one, part two, part three. I was going to say, I think we're. We're a unique case because we're right in that, like, middle. So we Do a little bit of both. We're going to do brain rot. But then we also recognize the importance of regular old school programming. We're the first year of Gen Z, so technically we're delennials.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's like we have the, like I can remember the dial up sound like I do remember September 11th, but I was in kindergarten.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So, yeah, you know, that's good. I just wanted my Cheerios. Why is everyone crying?

[B]

Some buildings fixed. Okay.

[A]

It was so over my head, like, oh, okay, Mom, I'm hungry.

[B]

Right? Yeah. So I don't know, I think that's what it's like social media and it's hard to just break through with anything now, even you guys doing this podcast, it has to be great because it's a thousand podcasts and it's a. There's just so much content out there, so it's hard for anything to break through because people gotta, you gotta share, you gotta share the eyeballs. You only got 24 hours a day, you gotta sleep, you gotta eat, you got kids, you gotta do homework, you gotta go to work. So you got like what, three, four hours of like, you gonna sit down and be entertained.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or if you're doing it, you at work. So you can't really focus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you want something easy. Most people be on social media at work. Absolutely. When they get home, I'm done.

[A]

What they call that, they call that stealing time. Oh, yeah. Oh, I stole so much time. All them time in the bath, people room stuff.

[B]

Yeah. The glasses.

[A]

Yeah. So how do you feel like you've been able to maintain relevancy? I mean, you've been at this quite some time.

[B]

Well, I mean, you just, I think you can't. We live in a time now you can't do one thing.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I mean, unless you already was grandfathered in into that one thing. But if you coming up now, you know, you can't do one thing. You gotta be able to, you know, do a podcast. Better write a book, you better do this, better do this. So I always was able to. I got lucky enough to where I could use my comedic skills in other areas like writing and acting and then stand up. So I'm always doing one or the other, you know, just to stay, you know, stay afloat. I think that nowadays you have to be able to, you know, be able to, you know, figure it out. And even if it's doing something on social media, just to keep your name relevant, to keep you out there, you know, if you see now you got big Celebrities on social media, big. Because they don't want people to forget about them.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? You got to stay relevant. We live in a 24 hour news cycle.

[A]

Sure do.

[B]

Back in the day, if something bad happened, it'd be like, oh, man. Like, dude, just chill out. Tuesday, they won't even be talking about you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, they gotta stay relevant.

[A]

They gonna still talk about you to today. Well, let's go down to y'.

[B]

All. It ain't gonna matter. Yeah. Is it gonna matter?

[A]

It depends. It depends. It depends on how scandalous it is, though, in my experience.

[B]

You seen our president? Well, okay, then.

[A]

Caucasian.

[B]

I know, but I'm just. Okay, well, different standards. It's a lot of people. I mean, unless it's criminal and you behind bars, it don't matter.

[A]

Yeah, true.

[B]

Look at how many people did crazy things, said crazy things. Shows packed, music still going crazy.

[A]

That's for sure.

[B]

It don't matter. Especially with us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Black people. We don't require much of our entertainers and celebrities and leaders. It's like, if you make a hotbeat, you can do anything to black people.

[A]

I'm telling you, we don't give a damn. Clearly, I'd be like, used to stop stepping in the name of love. Okay. We ain't got nothing, but.

[B]

See that one? I feel like it's okay.

[A]

Cause he's paying for it.

[B]

No, no, no. Because I'm saying, like, he didn't get away with it.

[A]

That's true. That's true. Right?

[B]

So I feel like, okay, you know, I mean, he's paying for it. But if you was still out here doing it, then. No, I can't. But the fact that he's in prison, like, all right, well, you know, the man gotta eat. I'm gonna stream it.

[A]

But see, some of us, Some of them folks is saying, free him too, while stepping.

[B]

I ain't go that far. Okay. But I will play me some aura.

[A]

Aura. But if I'm at the light, that's the age group. Y' all be like, I don't give a damn. Anybody gonna take my music.

[B]

I'll be honest. If I'm at the light and I'm bumping in, like some black women, I

[A]

turn down, you gonna turn down a little bit. As long as, you know, I turn

[B]

down a little bit, see how they react. If they, like, turn it. Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That's funny. At my dad's birthday when his 70th birthday party, they played it and it was right as everything was coming. And so, like, me and my cousins was like. And he was like, I don't give a damn. It's not right. I said, oh, my God, he in present. You know, Damn.

[B]

The man paying for his crime.

[A]

He paying all right. Yeah, he gots to. When you a degenerate, you know.

[B]

Hey, man, I don't like it. I think it's. To me, I'm the other way around. I like older. I don't. I don't.

[A]

How old.

[B]

No uterus. You know, Handicap parking.

[A]

That handicap placard coming.

[B]

Hey, man, you park anywhere? Yeah, yeah. See, y' all can't, y'. All.

[A]

No, I got. I'll be using my mamas.

[B]

But you blind, though. You should get.

[A]

You know what? It's on my license. I can't drive without my glasses. For real.

[B]

Oh, that's a ticket, huh? Well, you literally can't, though.

[A]

I've only done it one time. And I said, oh, no, it was on accident. Oh, okay. It was literally on accident. I had left my glasses at my cousin's house, and I had to go get them and drive into her house.

[B]

Jesus. Took the wheel.

[A]

Took the wheel and, you know, Texas highways is crazy. I said, oh, my God, I cannot see.

[B]

You made it.

[A]

I made it.

[B]

I'm here now. How'd you get them? Did you go drive back to get them or.

[A]

I had to drive back to get him.

[B]

Oh, Lord.

[A]

Because I was like, I'm not gonna go a full day without my.

[B]

Why don't you. You turn around that right then?

[A]

Because I.

[B]

So you did two full trips?

[A]

I did. Why you ain't Uber package them? We didn't have that. This was, like, in 2021. It was when I first moved to Houston, and it happened because we was out. I got dropped off, I realized.

[B]

And you got a little lit, you

[A]

know, And I don't believe in drinking and driving, so that's what I'm saying. I had Uber.

[B]

But you believe in driving without seeing.

[A]

Cause that's just as bad. You might as well be drunk, right? I was like. I had got all the way over in that right lane, the slow lane, which is non existent in Houston.

[B]

The whole way.

[A]

I was slow as hell.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But let's go down some of your accolades, because you're in a lot of things that I personally have seen and watched. You acted in the neighborhood Blackish, you people. Born Again version. The Soul man, you wrote on Black af. And so something I want to ask you is, as a comedian, how do you tackle your roles while staying true to what you think is funny?

[B]

You just. For me, like, whatever I'm doing, I just put a little me in it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, that's all. You just. You see the character, and then you just put a little you in it. Cause that's what make people like an actor. That's why you like Denzel.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

That's why you like certain actors. Cause they put a little them in it.

[A]

Cause I need him to guarantee it every single time.

[B]

And you need him to.

[A]

I need.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. So you want a piece of that person within the character. So that's all it is. You just gotta put a little you in there. Otherwise, it's like, there's nothing special about it.

[A]

Having a writing background, do you find yourself like, have you ever read scripts and parts and been like, I'm gonna change this?

[B]

No, not if I get it, then. Not really. I just put me in it, and there's certain little words you could just change. But I'm not gonna change the dynamic of the character. But there's been auditions where I'm like, nah, I'm not doing this right. Cause I'm like, it's way too far from who I am.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I don't think I'm. I probably can be later on, but I don't think I'm an actor yet. To the skill level where I can do a biography. Like, you see Jamie Foxx, where he played Ray Charles. I'm like, yo, I don't know if I'm there yet.

[A]

He was Ray.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

He was Ray Charles.

[B]

I don't think I'm there yet. Like, that's. That's when you don't see a famous person playing another famous person, but you don't see the famous person. That mean they killed it. You don't even see Jamie Foxx, though.

[A]

Yeah, he. That was a. That was a different type of.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I'm like, that.

[B]

That's a different.

[A]

Touching that lady wrist. I said, oh, my God. Yeah, he's Ray Charles.

[B]

He is Ray Charles. That talent is. His acting is beyond.

[A]

I do feel like comedic actors can all. I do feel like all comedic actors have that bone in them, though. That's like my little conspiracy theory.

[B]

Well, I feel like if I had enough reps like Jamie did, eventually I could get there. But if I could I do it today? I don't think so. I mean, maybe I could, but I. I wouldn't bet on me. Yeah. You know What I'm saying, like, now if you gonna let me play a character nobody know, and I'm presenting the character to you, then, yeah, we gonna kill that.

[A]

So you think you okay. So I was gonna say, like, you could do a more serious, like stripped down method act. And I wanna be a crackhead.

[B]

I wanna have a struggle for you. But what I'm saying to do. Cause the thing is, especially with us, you know, us, we get real stressed. You gonna do Malcolm X, you gonna do Martin Luther King.

[A]

We judging. That ain't even how Malcolm will walk, right? You know what I'm saying?

[B]

So, you know, even when Denzel did. Hurric. Will did. Then who did? Will.

[A]

Ali.

[B]

Ali. You gotta be confident. Cause if you don't pull it off. Cause these are people we actually know too.

[A]

Cause you know it could end up like Flex trying to do Michael Jackson. And I was about to bring it up.

[B]

Man, don't.

[A]

Still ain't forgiving Flex. You know I rock Flex. You know I named my dog at the dog.

[B]

I ain't gonna let them do you like that.

[A]

You know, you might. Unfortunately, that white paint, you know how you. I just wanna know whose decisions see the glasses.

[B]

Flex. I told you. Flex ain't got nothing to do with this.

[A]

He don't. I'm just. We just want to bring it up.

[B]

Y' all just straight shot.

[A]

I'm sorry. We love Flex. Alex, you know, I'm just in Michael movie mode. Cause it comes out this week, right? And so I just had to throw that in.

[B]

Who is this person playing Michael? I don't even know.

[A]

His nephew Jafar. Jermaine's nice.

[B]

Okay, nice.

[A]

You know Jermaine, 92 with a toddler. That little baby was his.

[B]

They be dropping. They be dropping late.

[A]

Them Jacksons gonna drop a kid.

[B]

Yeah, they dropping off late here. I think the pills now dudes is dropping dick off late nowadays.

[A]

His wife is 25. I don't want no. I don't want no peel penis. Not yet, huh? I don't want no peel pen.

[B]

You had some peel penis. I bet you did. Didn't even know these young niggas be taking pills.

[A]

The young ones. Word to deontay. Drink your beet juice, do some push ups. What is they taking it for? They should still be able to know gas station.

[B]

Because they want to show out.

[A]

He took it. He took a pill. He said he took a honey pack. That is not like the same.

[B]

Same thing.

[A]

Same thing.

[B]

Still an enhancement.

[A]

I thought it just make you horny.

[B]

No.

[A]

Make you stand Up.

[B]

See, you don't have a honey pack. They ain't.

[A]

No, I did taste a honey pack before.

[B]

You got honey packed out. They didn't.

[A]

I was honey packed. But I always say, you know, I'm a victim of placebo. You can tell me something is something, and I'll believe it.

[B]

And then you think you have.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you could do that for me. So I feel like I think I just wanted it. You know what I mean? I don't know if that was that honey pack or just that mila pack.

[B]

You had a good time though, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all that matters, no matter how you had it.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

It's a billion dollar industry, somebody taking it.

[A]

It sure is.

[B]

If it's a billion dollar industry, it can't just be old, man.

[A]

They putting more money into that than the birth control.

[B]

Oh, they put more money than anything.

[A]

More than the birth control?

[B]

Yeah. I feel like they should make a cure that like, that gets you erection and cure aids. Let's just do two things at once.

[A]

A little double.

[B]

That's the only way they'll cure aids. If it happened to get your dick hard, they be like, now.

[A]

Now we got some research.

[B]

If it happened by mistake, like, you

[A]

know how Viagra started.

[B]

A lot of it just be happening by mistake. Like, my heart still fucked up, but my dick hard.

[A]

I have an idea. Don't stop production. Just change the name. Just like zip is for diabetes.

[B]

The zit, the O.

[A]

That big O.

[B]

A lot of people want the O.

[A]

Would you take big O?

[B]

For what? Look at me. I mean, it disappeared.

[A]

You know what if one day, you know what the kids say, you get out of hand.

[B]

I don't think I'll ever be fat. I might get a belly, but I don't think I would ever be fat. Like, I don't think it's in my.

[A]

It ain't even in your jeep. You have a fast metabolic.

[B]

A little something. I'm small. If I don't work out, I'll be even smaller, so.

[A]

Oh. Oh. So do you work out on a regular basis?

[B]

Yeah, I work out on a regular basis.

[A]

Okay. Boys are. Boys are blessed in that way, though.

[B]

Yeah. I'm five days a week. Yeah. I gotta get in.

[A]

Oh, you guess it in.

[B]

I get it in.

[A]

You do prison push ups?

[B]

Nah. I can, but I don't. I'm pretty. You know I'm pretty all right.

[A]

Period. Health is wealth.

[B]

Come on now. Get it in, man.

[A]

Health is wealth. But you from Miami So, you know, aesthetic is a big thing out there.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's just, I always, I grew up just always active and I feel like when you just sit down and just don't do nothing, I feel like that's how you get old.

[A]

True. That is.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Got to stay moving.

[B]

You got to stay active, man. You gotta stay moving. You gotta stay, you gotta do. Even go for a walk, do that

[A]

100k steps a day.

[B]

Yeah, I get mine in.

[A]

So that's right. Okay, so let's get back into you being multi hyphenated. I think that's the way to go. I always tell these people, do more than one thing. Right. Hello. So how do you feel like doing these different roles? Being an actor, being a comedian and being a writer help each other?

[B]

Yeah, I think it does because it's all kind of connected. So if I'm writing scripts, then when I read another script, I can, you know, I can digest it easier because I know, you know, structure and writing and, you know what I'm saying and turns and you know how to, you know, go up, come down giving the dialogue. So I think that helps. And as far as just being funny, that also helps. Cause you want to know when to be funny. You don't want to be funny at all times. Because sometimes a lot of people would think, well, if he a comedian, he should be able to write on a TV show, on a sitcom. Not necessarily true. Because I've seen comedians who had opportunities to come in the writer's room and it didn't go well because they just being funny. They're not.

[A]

Give us some tea.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Because they just being funny, they're not being funny for the, for the show, for the situation, for the plot.

[A]

So they was just in that key can.

[B]

Yeah, just dropping jokes, you know what I'm saying? They dropping jokes for the script, but

[A]

it don't make sense for the plot line.

[B]

It's also like, if I get to know you two, like, well, and we doing and then we writing a show, I would know she's not gonna say this joke. She'll say that joke, you know, so sometimes you don't want to just say a joke for the sake of saying the joke. It's like, well, that joke's not really for that character. That character wouldn't even say that for sure, you know, so that kind of thing you kind of learn, like that's why some of your favorite shows, if you watch them, you'll be like, boy, that's just like him to say that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause it stopped being a character. It's not just you just saying random stuff out your mouth.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

You know what I mean? So all that kind of helps you with, you know, telling jokes and writing jokes and learning the situation or even if it's a situation, like characters upset. Why would they say that joke right now? They're mad. They're mad. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Like, I'm gonna cuss.

[B]

Yeah. Somebody has to say a joke to break them. Then they could say a joke, you know, if they're mad. If you say something funny, that breaks me. Now, it's true that I would say something funny. You know, just like if you had a funeral crying, you not gonna bust a joke. Somebody else bust a joke. You know, depending.

[A]

Depending on who the funeral it is. I laugh at every funeral I've been in. Ain't that something?

[B]

I bet you it's gonna be one. You ain't gonna. Have you been in the front row?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause some front. The front row seat is the worst seat at the funeral.

[A]

You know what it is, though? It's. It's just my family. There's always something that's gonna happen where we're.

[B]

But that's what I'm saying. But somebody broke you, though.

[A]

Yes, that's what I just said. Comedic.

[B]

You didn't do it. Somebody broke you, and now you like, okay, well, I got a license to go now, for sure. You know what I'm saying? So. But when you in the front row, ain't nothing funny.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Now if you two, three rows back. Oh, yeah, you got jokes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Front row is the worst seat at the funeral.

[A]

I'm tired. I always say that's why you need your cousin who can't sing to get up there. No, you do need to make anybody laugh. Cause I'm tired of cr. And I'm the hooting, holler one at the funeral. I'm the one.

[B]

Oh, you the embarrassing one. Listen, you the one.

[A]

I'm the one

[B]

just stealing the show.

[A]

Listen, I get. I'm scared.

[B]

I get up at my funeral. Sit your ass down. It's my day, man.

[A]

I do not like when people be dead. That did not be that. I said, excuse me. And then it's something about, oh, they really up in that casket. Oh, I'm out of here. And they got the.

[B]

You know, you too young for that. No, you like a black old lady.

[A]

I was born old. You know, I was born old.

[B]

You got an old soul.

[A]

I do. I do. And I just. Oh, it just takes me out. I just. I can't take it. But, yeah, I like what you said there. I actually just got my first official writing gig with Kev on stage. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, that's my neighbor.

[A]

I love him to be your daughter, Kev.

[B]

That's my. We neighboring communities we live in.

[A]

We both live in. That's how I know you got in them good gated communities. That's how it is. You said, if you will be the man, you will be the man.

[B]

That's pretty gay. Yeah. He was just down here, right, Filming the.

[A]

Yes, we were out there.

[B]

The TSA thing.

[A]

Yes, the airport. So me and her were both starring in it. And this is my first official riding gig in npr.

[B]

So you was acting in it. In. Okay.

[A]

Congrats. Thank you. That was. What's up. It Definitely.

[B]

I know. Everybody taught me everything.

[A]

Yes. We had a blast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We went to the comedy Room and we saw all their sets and stuff, too.

[B]

That's what's up.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

What's going on? What is it on?

[A]

It's gonna be on Tubi.

[B]

Tubi. Okay.

[A]

I don't know when it dropped. I don't. Kev, tell me. I'm ready to go. No, Kev, I feel like he gonna have a quick turnaround time.

[B]

Oh, me and Kev go to the same gym.

[A]

Okay. When he be walking and getting his stuff in. Period. Okay.

[B]

That's our neighborhood. That's my. The street off. Come out my community. That's the one he be walking down.

[A]

I know that's right. Period. Well, why you waiting at the airport? You should have popped up on I

[B]

ain't know nothing about it.

[A]

Uh. Oh, Kevin.

[B]

No, we cool.

[A]

But Kevin Horn.

[B]

That's not how it works, man. It's so much st. Stuff going on, and people got their pockets of. You know what I'm saying? And plus, it's like. So if I'm on it, you probably wouldn't have been on it, and I

[A]

had to be on it. So you can.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. So it's an opportunity for you to break in. You know what I mean? So everything. Not for everybody.

[A]

It's a lot to take all your money. That's what you were telling us. Oh, we all.

[B]

Everything. Not for everybody. You know what I mean? Who knows? But when he sees this, I mean. I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why wasn't I at least outside? Yeah. Now that I think about it, it's kind of. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

This is what we. We stir Some mess.

[B]

Yeah. Don't worry.

[A]

I'm gonna see him in that gym walking. Hey, something about that airport.

[B]

I'm ask him if you need a spot. I ain't gonna spot him,

[A]

man. It was quite a time and everything you just said. I definitely was getting my chops in, because writing for yourself is one thing, and then being in a writer's room is like, ah, I see why this isn't gonna work for this. I see how we can, you know, make this joke funnier. I see that there's also branding to come in place because, of course, this is Kev Onstage studio, so it needs to be Kev Onstage.

[B]

You can't really just say whatever.

[A]

No. And I say, you look like you with it. I'm with you. I'm gonna take some stuff on. You know, I'm a dark humor girl.

[B]

Yeah, see, you look like I'm gonna take it there. Yeah, yeah. You look like you.

[A]

That's a family man. That's a family man.

[B]

Kevin is a family church man.

[A]

I, too, have a family.

[B]

Everybody got a family.

[A]

Like, I feel like I look like a nice, gentle lady from a Southern belle.

[B]

You don't. I mean, not to me. Cause I know better. That's why when I told y', all, I walked in, I was like, oh, yeah, they gonna be messy. Well, I can see how they look. They look innocent. So that's a dead giveaway.

[A]

God forbid I just got a little chubby cheek. That ain't.

[B]

Yeah, it's a dead giveaway.

[A]

Oh, well, being messy isn't a crime, though. That's what I'm saying. Who said something was wrong with that?

[B]

It's not a crime. Not a crime. You know, it's cool.

[A]

You messy.

[B]

No, too ground for me.

[A]

No, he did. He did. He said no when we asked him. He's boy messy, though.

[B]

Too alpha male for me.

[A]

You're a boy alpha male. There's a certain. There's a way that boys are messy, where it's like, I do a little sneaky sneak, but it's like, I didn't say much.

[B]

Oh, no, that's.

[A]

He's straight.

[B]

That's different.

[A]

I am boy. Hoo. Ha ha.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you let your lady gossip with you in the bed at night? Or you be like, yeah, a woman. Yes, a little messy.

[B]

I ain't got no choice.

[A]

That's boy messy. That's boy messy.

[B]

No, that's boy.

[A]

Listen, do you be getting opinions, though? Do you be like, you throw your ass in there, right, if she asks me? But if you Hear her talking on the phone and it's getting juicy. Do you.

[B]

No, no. See, really, if I'm. Whoever I'm dating, I'm not gonna go dig in.

[A]

No, not dig, but.

[B]

Cause once your woman is your woman and she trusts you, she gonna come to you any day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause that's the thing I always tell people. Like, if you tell your friend or your whoever, anything for real, if they have a spouse, you might well tell them to get together.

[A]

Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. Cuz they're gonna know. Especially she gonna tell. She gonna tell her, dude, I can't hold water.

[B]

She gonna. Soon.

[A]

I need. I need. Guess what?

[B]

Y' all be telling your dudes so much stuff. They be knowing the people and not even knowing them.

[A]

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

[B]

We be knowing the whole person at work. Never met them, but I know their name.

[A]

Remember when I told you about. Okay, guess what? We today.

[B]

So she got five today. Keisha got five.

[A]

Exactly. Like, that's fun.

[B]

Yeah. But that. That's me listening.

[A]

Yeah, that listening.

[B]

So I'm not gonna Listening. Yeah, I'm not listening.

[A]

But, you know, some boys be like, oh, you need to stop all that. Oh, God, Loser. Let me gossip listen.

[B]

But yeah, yeah, you know, you just gotta listen. You know, as you get older, you realize if I want to hear later, I'm gonna have to listen.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So, well, yeah.

[A]

Good lesson to learn early.

[B]

Yeah. You know. Well, let y' all get it in.

[A]

I have another question for you. More thought about when stuff that you're doing or projects you're working on don't go the way that you think. Like, I saw that you wrote on Black af, and I know Kenya Burris had people have their thoughts about him. I actually really liked Black af. And I was sad that it didn't. I was one of the people who watched it, and I was sad it didn't get, like, another season. So it's like, obviously, like you said, when you're writing, you're putting your best foot forward. What is it like when it doesn't go the way that you want it to?

[B]

I mean, that's just. That's Hollywood, you know? That's 90% of the stuff you do or you want to do don't go the way you know you think it's gonna go. Black AF was great. That was a great experience. I like Kenya. You know, Kenya. I learned a lot working in Kenya's room in his process. Because everybody you work, we're gonna have a different process. So it was good to see how he do things. It was a great show. But Kenya got so much going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that's why I just never came back. He just got so busy. And in the Pandemic and then this and that.

[A]

Cause that's when I watched on the Pandemic.

[B]

Yeah. And then it's just one of them things that.

[A]

Just watching Rasheeda Jones actually play a black woman was refreshing. And she was so good at it.

[B]

Yeah, it was a cool show, man. Cause you saw a different side of, like, it was more real than most shows.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? So it was cool. We had Tyler Perry on there, giving advice and seeing a different side of Tyler.

[A]

It was just the key. Like, I felt like I liked Black af. Cause it was one of those things where they broke the fourth wall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. I like stuff like that. I like, break the fourth wall, tell us what's really going on. That type of comedy always eats for me.

[B]

Martin used to do that a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When he used to look at the camera every time. I love that. But some people don't, you know. But it's a. It's a taste, you know, Some people like. I like it. Yeah, I like it. But. Yeah, I mean, that's just Hollywood, man. Cause. And even in things you do, you. You may do a project or something may happen, you be like, yeah, this gonna be the thing that's gonna take me over. And it's like, nope.

[A]

If I had a dollar every time. I said, oh, baby, I made it.

[B]

This it right here. This it, this it. Once I write this Kevin on stage thing, I'm out of here.

[A]

I'm telling.

[B]

Then it be like.

[A]

Like the first time on Tubi, I said, oh, my aunties are 2B warriors down. I'm going up in the hood.

[B]

When I got on CBS on Neighborhood, I'm like, yo, boy. Yeah, I'm out of here.

[A]

Come on. That's prime time. That's them. Once you get them three letters. Hello, I'm here. I've made.

[B]

At some point, you just got to look at it like. Like it's just another gig. I'm paying my bills, my family's cool. I'm doing what I love. That's it. Cause if you keep thinking like this, it'll drive you crazy. You just gotta be like another. I got another job. I got another year worth of rent and mortgage. My kids tuition is paid. I'm cool.

[A]

I know that's right. That's a good way to look at it.

[B]

I think that's how you just gotta grind yourself. Cause otherwise, guys, you'll. You. You'll go crazy, man.

[A]

Period.

[B]

So that's Hollywood.

[A]

It is.

[B]

But I mean, technically, y' all in Hollywood, too.

[A]

Hollywood.

[B]

No, you in it. You just wrote on the show. You are in Hollywood.

[A]

Oh, I never not claimed it. I claimed it before I was in it. I've been Hollywood. I was born Hollywood. Okay.

[B]

I mean, even Atlanta is Hollywood now.

[A]

For sure. For sure. The studios are here.

[B]

They shoot everything here.

[A]

They sure do.

[B]

You know, so. So you can literally move here and have a great acting career.

[A]

For sure. So, y', all. Mandy just walked in. That's why everyone's looking. No, I'm saying I'm like, we all distracted. We all distracted. We just talked about breaking the fourth wall. Now we're breaking the fourth wall. We had to break it. I'm sorry, y'. All.

[B]

Yeah, you still see the glasses. Y' all know they not professional. Come on, man.

[A]

Let's get into your special laughing voodoo. Laughing voodoo. So. So let's. Let's. First of all, let's unpack that name.

[B]

Cause you, like she said, you see the pn, you see the Haitian. Haitian American.

[A]

Sak.

[B]

Passe Naboule.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

They like a Haitian dick. They both had Haitian dick, clearly.

[A]

Well, let me think. And I think he did magic. I don't think I've ever had, but I think.

[B]

I think you look into it, it's gonna happen. Keep it up.

[A]

Ain't nothing wrong with it.

[B]

Yeah, look, she's a veteran.

[A]

Just a terrible, terrible guy.

[B]

Let me tell. Girl went to school in Florida. She slept with a Haitian dude. I believe it more than likely. If you went to fam. Um. Florida Gators. Oh, yeah, they all around. Yeah.

[A]

They be speaking. That. The Creole. What was that?

[B]

She like. I don't know what he said, but it's whatever.

[A]

It's all good.

[B]

But, you know, one of the stereotypes of Haitian people is they do voodoo.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I'm like, if they did voodoo, I wouldn't. Y' all wouldn't even be able to get me on this podcast again.

[A]

It's the second time you done said, he did get me on the pod.

[B]

I would be too big if I could do voodoo.

[A]

That's why I love.

[B]

So what I did. I just took that and, like, so my voodoo is laughing. My voodoo is making people laugh. Cause clearly, it ain't making me a star or finances. So the voodoo that I have, I can make people laugh. So that's why I call it laugh at voodoo.

[A]

Did you get Any flack for naming it that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. Cause I know I'm actually Haitian.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, my parents were actually Haitian. You know, I was born in Miami, but I come from Haitian parents, Haitian roots, you know what I mean? So.

[A]

So.

[B]

And it was another way just for me to kind of put some light on my people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I wasn't trying to shy from it. So that's why every hat I get, I got a pen, I just try to. I don't try to shove it down people throat. But somebody like that recognize it, it's always like, makes me be like, oh, cool. You know what I mean? Some people got some. They recognize it. And, you know, conversation started, you know,

[A]

with the way that this current presidential administration is carrying on. I think that that with xenophobia and with ice, like, Haitian people were the first black people really affected. And when people were talking about, this isn't our fight, this isn't our fight, you had a lot of Haitian Americans saying like, hold on, hold on, hold on. And I remember what this was like last year on social media, them talking about why certain stereotypes are problematic. And so I think naming it laughing Voodoo is shedding a light in a comedic way on it and opening, like you said, opening the door for conversation.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna shy from it. It is what it is. But even if we go deeper, and this is probably a deeper conversation, the whole concept of voodoo, I'm not saying people don't do practice voodoo, but it's not what I guess I would say America has branded to be. It's just another religion, another spiritual practice. But America has branded it like, oh, it's evil, and they do this and they do that. And so my whole thing is like, well, when they gonna use it if it's so evil, why y' all still oppressing them? Why they not using it to stop you?

[A]

Yeah. Ye.

[B]

So it's like, even when you sit down and really think about it, it's like it don't even make sense. So these people got all these evil powers, yet America is just abusing the hell out of them and they letting it go.

[A]

Child, that white supremacy has done a number on folks especially.

[B]

Let me tell you, though, it's done a number mostly on black people to divide us exactly based on islands and this and that. And you got a lot of black people would tell you, oh, well, they're not black, they're Jamaican. What?

[A]

Oh, them FBAs I can forever be for that nigga that's black. They Don't. They done told me I'm a white woman.

[B]

You think when they get pulled up, like, oh, oh, you just make it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, go ahead.

[A]

My bad.

[B]

So it's like, but they've done that to us.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? And even growing up in Miami, and I hate to say this, when I was younger, the only people. And this probably has something to do with proximity, too, but the only people I would see, like, teasing or trying to bully Asian people was black people. Black people. And I'm like, who told you to hate Haitian people? What. What did they do to you? What do they have that you don't have? What did they do to you that you have this hatred? No, the white man told you to hate them, and then here you are. But you love the white man. You ain't got no beef with the white. With the white students, but you want to beat up the Haitian students that didn't do nothing but walk to class.

[A]

Just. Just. Just make my nerves, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

So it's like we don't even realize. Like, bro, you fighting to fight for somebody else. You hate this person because a white man told you to hate. They ain't do nothing to you. Nothing to you. But the people who did do something to you, you ain't got no problem with.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm like. I'm always like, straight up forward, and I'm like, yeah, you know, it is what it is. If you want to have a conversation, we can.

[A]

One of our good friends in college is Haitian. Shout out to G. And I feel like during that moment in time, like, you know, you're kicking it with your homegirls in the dorm. I learned a lot. My godfather's Jamaican, but I didn't know too much about Haitians.

[B]

And.

[A]

And even down to. I had went to the Dominican Republic a year or two ago, it's like, you know, it's the same island. But I feel like what the media presents as Haitian and what the media presents as Dominican, when I got off the plane and doctor said, oh, it's niggas.

[B]

Yeah, but they. But the white Dominicans are racist, too.

[A]

Oh, for sure. No, that's what I'm saying. As fuck you wouldn't think, like, the way that the island looks. I mean, it's the line. It's an imaginary line.

[B]

What's funny is before this ICE stuff, all the Dominicans was like, me no black. Me no black. Now they like, me black, me black. Me no black. Remember?

[A]

Yeah. Literally.

[B]

Yeah. They was like, nino black. Now they want to be black.

[A]

We chose, you know, that's the thing. Listen, I, I, I had a TikTok go viral. I was like, I was obviously drunk, but I was like, the transatlantic slave trade was getting busy over here, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I don't know what the Dominicans talk about. It's niggas. Like, I just, I was taken aback, but then I had to sit and think. I'm like, it's because the what media has shown us, like, and then when we were on the island, half the niggas who's meeting was hated.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like really this divide that you see and you hear about a lot, it's imaginary.

[B]

And a lot of people, you know, even, like, with a lot of the white presenting Hispanics, they, they just trying to lean toward because they think they'll just get accepted because they're white presented. Yeah, they'll think they'll be accepted. Like, nah, it don't work like that, bro. You not one of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't care how much you vote for them, they gonna vote for you and send your ass back.

[A]

They fall for the okie doke every time. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's kind of, it's a little refreshing when you see it happen. Slow refresh. When they, they vote for it to put the hat on and then wake up in Venezuela, you'd be like, yeah, it's all right.

[A]

Well, that's what we had. If y' all had read the website. He's doing everything he said he's gonna do. It wasn't even fine print. It was on the website. Yeah, it went on the website. They said exactly that they was gonna do. Yeah.

[B]

What are you gonna do?

[A]

Yeah, they'll learn eventually, I guess. I suppose we'll see this next go around. We got a few more years.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

We can only hope.

[B]

Hey, man, you know, sometimes, you know, you know, you can only tell people so much, they have to go through it. You know, you got the left brain, right brain learners, you know what I mean?

[A]

And the no brain learners.

[B]

So some of them gotta go through.

[A]

It's not high either, you know, I

[B]

just stay out of it. I'm like, do your thing.

[A]

Yeah. How did we get to Cedric the Entertainer?

[B]

Directing your special the Universe? Nah. Me and Ced met years back and we have been touring together. That's how I got my first writing gig. So I was touring with Ced. He got a TV show before the Neighborhood. And he was like, I got this TV show, man. I think you'll be a good writer on there. I was like, man, I don't want no writing job, dude. I'm a comedian. He was like, well, they gonna pay you this much? I was like, I'll be out there.

[A]

I'll be out there.

[B]

Yeah, I'll be out there. I'll be out there tomorrow. And so I went out there and I didn't know anything about writing, you know, you probably had a little something. I didn't know nothing.

[A]

I did. I went to school for it.

[B]

I didn't. I walked in.

[A]

What did you go to school for?

[B]

English.

[A]

Okay, well, so you know how to write?

[B]

No. Writing is different than going to school to learn.

[A]

You know, comm. You got good grammar, though.

[B]

You know what's crazy? I don't.

[A]

Oh, you was just sitting there, just pushing. You just picked something.

[B]

Let me tell you why. I majored in English, okay? I was like, well, hell, I already speak English. It's gonna be easy. No, I was wrong.

[A]

Nigga logic.

[B]

I was right.

[A]

Nigga logic.

[B]

Super nigga logic.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I was dead wrong.

[A]

You went. That's what teachers major in.

[B]

I'm talking about that. I was a teacher.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

My mom was an English teacher for like, six months. We went to spring break. I ain't go back.

[A]

Them kids like. Them kids?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, man, what grade did you teach?

[B]

6th and 8th.

[A]

Oh, that. You have to have a strong mentality. Them is the worst.

[B]

Well, you know, I left because I didn't want to get attached to them either.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Cause they was really. Because I was like. I might have been, like, 25.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So them kids was really. And I looked so.

[A]

And you was the cool teacher.

[B]

I was the cool teacher.

[A]

And you're passionate still.

[B]

You know, I was a cool teacher. I had a pickup truck on 20s back then wearing true religious jeans on Friday. True religious Air force ones. Like, I was like, they're heavy. Hero.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, these little.

[A]

We love.

[B]

I don't want to like them back.

[A]

Something about a young teacher back then.

[B]

I had dreads back then, too.

[A]

Oh, and you left during spring break.

[B]

Yeah, cuz I had a week to think about it.

[A]

Oh, they was attached to. Oh, my God.

[B]

I had a week to think about it. And I just. So. They don't even.

[A]

I seen you on the tv, said this where he.

[B]

You know what's crazy? Some of them follow me now.

[A]

Isn't that so cute? Isn't that.

[B]

And they grown.

[A]

I bet they are.

[B]

And I'm like, it's weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. But it's like, yeah, they follow me and they like, I remember you. And you just left like, yes. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's. Went to get some milk and never came.

[B]

I mean, I just had a week to think about. I was like, I'm cool.

[A]

Okay. That makes sense.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

We distracted you. We have adhd, by the way, so we.

[B]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[A]

But Cedric Entertainer, directorial, gave you your first riding job.

[B]

We touring. We touring. He get the writing show. He get the show. He asked me to come be a writer. I come be a writer. I learned, you know, I'm still learning. You never stop learning in writing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So anyway, so now we touring together. So he's been seeing me craft this material over the time, and I was like, I mean, it makes sense for him to direct it. He already know everything. He already seen it countless times. Instead of bringing somebody new that got to come watch me over and over, he's already watched me over and over, and it's sexual Entertainer. So I just went to him, I was like, hey, I'm about to shoot my special, man.

[A]

King of comedy.

[B]

Can you direct it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's like, yeah, tell me. Yeah, that was it.

[A]

How does that go with directing a comedy special? Like, I'm so interested of, like, the behind the scenes of developing a comedy special. Like, what does that look like?

[B]

It all depends on what you want. So it depends. You can have. You can have two, three cameras. You could have seven or eight. It all depends how much you want, how much movement, how much do you want to shoot behind. And then directing a comedy special is about knowing the set.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there may be times somebody may make their eyes big, and you might want to want to zoom in on that. But if you don't know the material. Right.

[A]

So it's very similar to, like, theater scripted.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's very similar, but it's easier, like, you know, for somebody like me who don't move. But if you got a comedian that's going to be. I'm a slide on this joke.

[A]

Yeah. Williams sliding across the stage.

[B]

So you got to be able to catch that.

[A]

Got it. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

With the right camera.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't want to catch. You don't want that on the wide right far back. You want to get it. You know what I mean? So it's basically that whoever you see directs a comedy special, they usually have seen it over and over. Now, you could go really cheap and just have four cameras, and then you can do it in editing, you can push in and whatever. So it all depends what the budget is and what you want, how you want it to look, you know? So. Yeah, I mean, it's. I mean, I don't know much about directing, but I know that part that it's about, like.

[A]

It sound like you do.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't direct.

[A]

Why not?

[B]

I haven't. That's the one thing I haven't done yet.

[A]

Is direct.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Would you direct anything not.

[B]

It seemed too technical.

[A]

It gets.

[B]

It gets like. I don't know. I don't know the jargon. Even though I've been around it so long, I don't know when they be talking, I be like, yeah.

[A]

Cause when Rich was saying some stuff, I was like, tune it out. Don't know what you're saying.

[B]

I don't know what he's saying. I don't understand the jargon. But I'm pretty sure if I was to be like, all right, I'm gonna do this. I'll be able to do it. Which I'm sure there's going to come a time. Cause every actor I know transitions into directing.

[A]

It helps you become a better actor.

[B]

Yeah. Also sometimes ain't no work.

[A]

True.

[B]

So at least maybe I could get work.

[A]

Yeah. Let me do a little something.

[B]

Yeah. Cause a lot of times people ain't doing stuff. Cause it's passionate.

[A]

Yeah. Like you said, you gotta be able to do everything.

[B]

If you look at a lot of especially black actors, they all direct now.

[A]

You got to shake and move.

[B]

They all. Even on our show, the Neighborhood, Tichina directed some. Cedric directed some. You know, like, everybody.

[A]

I've seen that with Tasha Smith. She's been directing.

[B]

She's more directing, though.

[A]

Yes, she's doing that. And she's dominating.

[B]

Alfonso Ribeiro directs now. He mostly directs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Cause sometimes, you know, the jobs ain't coming.

[A]

But listen, we need more black directors.

[B]

We need more black everything.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Except rappers. Except rappers. We good. We should have. We should close for a little while. But we got. We need more black everything. I think we good on rappers.

[A]

Okay. I think a. Like a moratorium. Maybe in, like, a couple years, we bring it back. Yeah.

[B]

I think we should just.

[A]

What if we let some retire and then we open up for, like, some new.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I think we should just, like. Just like, no new rappers for, like, at 20, 20, 30.

[A]

That's a time four years? No, we good. 26. Four years. Four years.

[B]

We good. That's two. Look, each rapper can have at least two, three more albums and then we can have some new ones.

[A]

Or do they. Because sometimes they only got that one. That's heat.

[B]

Exactly. So that's. So now you got three, four more years of track.

[A]

Or we get new, fresh talent in here that is dominating.

[B]

Yeah, but it'll be there in four years.

[A]

Will it be fresh, though? He said, listen to us. It'll be talent, but it won't. We ain't heard it.

[B]

It'll be fresh to us. If you want to rap, do your thing, man. I'm just saying, like, we.

[A]

Someone's typing in the comments.

[B]

We good on rappers. So I can rap, but we good on rappers. I don't think we have a lot.

[A]

Think we good on R and B singers.

[B]

We could use more.

[A]

We could definitely use more R and B. We could use more heavy R and B. Not like, like, like good old school R and B.

[B]

Like, I like the old and I don't want to sound old, but I like the good old school R. Some of this new R and B is. Is still a little too hip hop.

[A]

It's diet.

[B]

It's like, yeah, hip hop light.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? It's not that straight up.

[A]

Yeah, like a good chorus, like with a soulful voice.

[B]

It's just singing. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Let me put you on to somebody. I don't know if you know if. Jalen Jose. I knew you was gonna do it.

[B]

I don't see that's what I'm saying.

[A]

I knew what you was gonna do it. Shameless. Plus, that's the girl. Listen, mind you, I just met her. I'm indebted to her at this point. Like, I just met her a couple months ago. I seen her perform and I said, little girl, you are the next superstar. And I. My name's Mackenzie and I started a GoFundMe for the adoptive mother of a non verbal autistic child. The mother had lost a her job because she wasn't able to find adequate care for this autistic child. So she really needed some help with living expenses, paying some back bills. So I launched a GoFundMe to help support them during this crisis. And we raised about $10,000 within just a couple of months. I think that the surprising thing was by telling a clear story and just like really being very clear about what we needed, we had some really generous donations from people who were really moved by the situation that this family was struggling with. GoFundMe is the world's number one fundraising platform, trusted by over 200 million people. Start your GoFundMe today at gofundme.com that's gofundme.com gofundme.com this podcast is supported by GoFundMe. Going to promote you any chance I get, because I think she's dope. She can sing her ass off. She got an album dropping this this week. She's amazing. She's young, too, and she can really see.

[B]

That's the problem, though. Like, it's like, we live now. The best talent, and that's across the board, seem like acting, whatever, comedy rapping. They don't get pushed to the front.

[A]

They don't. They don't.

[B]

They don't get pushed to the front

[A]

because we're fighting algorithm. Well, also, it's hard to get past everything.

[B]

I think our people. I hate to say this. Our people just like popularity, parody.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They don't. They don't care about talent.

[A]

Yeah. They want to see who. Like, who, and like, oh, this person is big. It's almost like, pay attention.

[B]

It's almost like they wait for the people to tell them what they like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh, I like it. Oh, okay, okay. I like it. I like it. And it's like, do you.

[A]

You know what's funny? When we were. Or when I was in middle school, one of the things I like doing was discovering, like, new artists. Like, and we. And you could do it on YouTube. You could do it on LimeWire. Shouldn't have had LimeWire on Mama's computer. So many viruses. So many viruses. But, like, even how Soulja Boy, that's how he got his song, because he was like, I don't see that. The desire to, like, ooh, like, let's go find someone new. The way that, like, we were excited to find. Oh, y' all don't know about this person yet. It's my person.

[B]

Yeah. Now they wait for a celebrity to

[A]

tell them, you know, like a cosign type thing.

[B]

Oh. Oh, I like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, future like it, so I like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you hear it yet? Not yet, but I. I'm gonna like,

[A]

oh, he dressed nice.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like, we is the talent, the best talent. I feel like, like, this girl you talk about, she's probably amazing, and. And I hope she becomes that. But if she's that good in the world we live in, she probably won't. She like, she gotta dumb. It Down.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know.

[A]

No, no, no. Singers, real singers do have to dumb it down.

[B]

You have to dumb it down.

[A]

I can't think of who it was who started singing. I was like, oh, my God, she could really sing. Because on her, she don't sound like that, right? Yeah. Queen N', Shah. She could really sing. She can, but she don't sound like that on her. She kind of, like, plays it down.

[B]

I heard an old. This was Kodak, was much younger. Kodak Black. He was rapping so different. It's a old thing of him rapping. It was so different.

[A]

It wasn't like that.

[B]

No, it wasn't. But that's what blows up. Cause if you listen to Kodak, the boy really can really rap. But he purposely. I feel like he's like. But Jay Z said it years ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, he said, like, you got it.

[A]

You gotta.

[B]

And it's sad.

[A]

It's interesting. I'm. I'm always interested in seeing how music transforms through the years. That's like.

[B]

But that's kind of like. Well, you say what, y', all. It's the people right under y' all a little. But that's Y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Y' all don't require much.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Y' all don't require much talent.

[A]

Blame for nothing.

[B]

Y' all don't require much talent. Your generations don't require much talent.

[A]

I require talent because I feel like

[B]

I'm saying your generation. Y' all don't require much talent.

[A]

I feel like, personally, me, like, being raised in church. I was raised, like, I hear singers every Sunday. And this is people who go work, nine to fives, mail men, teachers, Cold. Cold every Sunday. So it's like, I'm not gonna pay $400 to hear you and you not really singing.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's just my personal. Yeah, that might need to be on right for me.

[B]

Right? Yeah. But overall, your generation, like, a little

[A]

track, a little lip sync. Definitely slide by. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, That's y'. All. Y' all room ruined it.

[A]

It's our fault, guys. I'm sorry. Dang. Well, that's why you should be an old soul like me.

[B]

Okay, but you still with the shits.

[A]

You know, we like a little one, a little TikTok dance. I will do that TikTok dance. They're so fun. Like, they be calling us all when we do TikTok dances. They be like, okay, auntie, you know Auntie. Yeah, we're aunties. We don't even know that we're aunties.

[B]

30s auntie.

[A]

The kids say anything after 24 is auntie.

[B]

They stupid.

[A]

I'm telling you.

[B]

24.

[A]

I'm telling you.

[B]

So y'. All. Auntie.

[A]

It depend on what room we in. When we was with Kevin on stage, we was young hoes.

[B]

Okay, wait, so it's young hoes and aunties.

[A]

We're both. There's young hoes.

[B]

So y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Depending where y' all at?

[A]

Just depending where we're at.

[B]

Where y' all at?

[A]

Just depend on what. What room we in.

[B]

Y' all give me more young hoes, I guess.

[A]

Cause I'm older than you. I feel like I'm still very much young.

[B]

I'm older. Y' all young.

[A]

Yeah, you're young for sure.

[B]

Yeah, y' all young hoes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Y' all not auntie yet.

[A]

Like, that's what the people. I mean, you know, that's why I'm mad at it with 23 year old. I know I act like a little old lady, so I'm like, I. I get whatever you do.

[B]

Got a little old energy to you, though. You got a little old energy. You look like you say. Oh, Lord Jesus.

[A]

She does. She don't have to. I look.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

All I do is make noise. Oh, I just make noise all day.

[B]

Yeah, you look like that. Like somebody slam on the break. Jesus. Take the.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. That's just.

[B]

Are you. You the baby? The oldest.

[A]

I'm the middle child.

[B]

Okay, so you confused. Yeah, a little bit.

[A]

You know, you trying to find.

[B]

Yeah. Middle kids, they be a lot. They weird.

[A]

That's why she a lot. Yeah, she was fighting for that attention.

[B]

She ain't know where she belonged.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what's the age gap?

[A]

Five and five.

[B]

Five and five. So it's 15. So every five.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So you was like, you was too young for this. Too old over that.

[A]

I made my way.

[B]

Yeah. And older brother, sister.

[A]

Older sister, little brother.

[B]

And you bullied him. I know you. I know you bully. He probably still don't like you.

[A]

You just said on the last episode how you would be like, give me your food.

[B]

He bigger than you now, though.

[A]

A little bit. But, you know, he's tiny at the same time. He's skinny like you. Yeah.

[B]

Just bullying that man.

[A]

He's okay.

[B]

He's not okay.

[A]

He's fine.

[B]

You bullied him.

[A]

Oh, and I was bullied, too, and I'm okay. That's just.

[B]

Older sisters are the worst, man.

[A]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Older sisters are worse than your mom.

[A]

Wait, what's the.

[B]

I'm the baby.

[A]

Okay, and what's the age difference?

[B]

Everybody older than me the closest is like six.

[A]

Oh, but he's the baby boy.

[B]

I'm the last of seven. Libra.

[A]

Seven. And the Leo, Libra and the baby. Immediately, no. Immediately, no. We have immediately no. So much information, baby boy.

[B]

Don't forget Florida.

[A]

Florida. Florida Nation. Another one.

[B]

So nothing happened here?

[A]

Hbcu.

[B]

Nothing happened here.

[A]

Listen, we gave you all the information y' all need to know, so I'm.

[B]

Wait, so what's wrong with a Libra?

[A]

Well, liars.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That's number one.

[B]

I mean, I've lied, but I don't know if I'm a liar.

[A]

Y' all lie about things that don't even need to be lied about.

[B]

We all lied before. Okay, so everybody's a liar.

[A]

And that's always a Libra's excuse. Like everybody. Everybody lies. So you admit you're a liar.

[B]

Everybody lies. You never lied?

[A]

I never said that.

[B]

Exactly. So what's the difference between me and you?

[A]

It's the types of.

[B]

Cause I was born in October.

[A]

Libras.

[B]

I can't control when my mama was smashing.

[A]

Well, Libra men have a way of making you feel crazy. Probably October. That's about nine.

[B]

Probably like library. You had a couple?

[A]

Well, see, I never said I see.

[B]

It's like everything y' all talk about, y'. All.

[A]

Well, I've never dated. And that's why we had the experience.

[B]

Well, you got a strong opinion for somebody who never dated.

[A]

People date Libras. And I've been like, I have the data. That's all this is. I'm just reporting the news. I'm an anthropologist at the end of the day.

[B]

So you won't date somebody based on the time of year?

[A]

I never said that. I'm just saying it just lets me know, gives me information. You gonna be on exactly now I. Okay, so now I see how I. When you date a Virgo, he going to be on you might still do get with it and you going to be on some. You know what I mean? But see, Libras and Gemini, we are. We are similar. We're very similar.

[B]

I don't even know the. I only literally know my sign. I don't know.

[A]

You don't know like your kids sign or nothing?

[B]

No, really, I know when they was born. I don't know what the sign is. My son was born May 3rd. My daughter was born Taurus. My son was born May 4th. My daughter born June 3rd.

[A]

See my son, Gemini. Gemini, yeah. June 3rd. That's Gemini. That's a good lady.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. She look crazy. Little crazy.

[B]

She a little spoiled.

[A]

Well.

[B]

Well, a lot of spoilers.

[A]

That's what she should be though. That's what she's supposed to do. Shout out to the daddy's girls a little bit.

[B]

But she's taking it too far now.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Now that she's getting older, it's a little ridiculous.

[A]

I seen you talking about therapy now

[B]

that she's 17 and I put on one of my cards, it's a problem. Problem.

[A]

Have you said no yet, though?

[B]

Yes. And it's still. When I look, it's still a Starbucks on there.

[A]

Exactly. Cuz we as ladies know how to bully our dads.

[B]

Yeah. I'm just going to cut it off.

[A]

And you were. And you remember in high school when you would show up with some coffee and you would just feel like. So like, like. Yeah. It's something about showing up to school was something that the school didn't have. Whether it be a little McDonald's. Yes. It's a stunting. I'm late because I had to.

[B]

I have a father.

[A]

It just says like, black father's in the home. Exactly. Yes. Black father's in the home.

[B]

We need that.

[A]

Yeah. We got your back, sister.

[B]

She's a brat. She's a brat. And I know you gonna see this. I said it.

[A]

Ooh, yeah. And you gonna still. Baby, you know, you already know. You still got a couple more years of things.

[B]

I'm still gonna do it, but I'm gonna complain.

[A]

And that complaint we. Ah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. My daddy complained. To this day, I'm still on that phone. Same.

[B]

So you saying this is my future?

[A]

This is your future.

[B]

You a grown ass woman.

[A]

I don't give a damn. And I got my own kid.

[B]

You got a whole kid.

[A]

I sure do. And we just upgraded. I was like, yay. We just upgraded. I did also. I just upgraded. It's my goal to never get off.

[B]

No kid.

[A]

No kid. I live vicariously through her.

[B]

Oh, boy. Yeah. Daughters is different, man. But I love it. I love being a father. I love my kids.

[A]

And you said you have a son as well.

[B]

I have some. My son is the oldest. I love my kids, period. You know, they spoil, but.

[A]

So you got both.

[B]

What can I do? I had them.

[A]

They didn't have to be here.

[B]

They asked to be here. I could have pulled out.

[A]

You could have. You could have. You could have wrapped it up.

[B]

I was like, you know what? I don't think it's going to happen. It happened Damn. Well, but I. I wouldn't change it.

[A]

You shouldn't.

[B]

I wouldn't change it.

[A]

We love parenthood. We love the kids. It was, you know, when people get to me, like I regret it. I'd be like, oh, I don't be knowing what to say when I don't know what to say to that man.

[B]

No, I never. I wouldn't regret my kids. I don't know what my life would be if I didn't have my kids. I needed my kids to ground you to keep me grounded and keep me structured.

[A]

Was you going buck wild before them kids?

[B]

No, but I probably would have did. I felt like if I didn't have kids, I could think of two incidents where I would have made the wrong decision and probably would have went to jail.

[A]

Ok.

[B]

Probably went to prison.

[A]

Oh, prison.

[B]

But when you think about like, this is bigger than me.

[A]

I got kids.

[B]

I got people counting on me.

[A]

Yeah. I gotta be around.

[B]

I can't slap the out of this.

[A]

No. For sure. And it's something about saying I got kids, man. Like that, that phrase means.

[B]

So I think that's why God gave me kids early. Cause he, like, you know, sometimes you, you know, like, okay, I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you get that off.

[A]

Sometimes I be wishing I had done a kid early.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz I need to do it for my son.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz it's been a couple times. Like, yeah, you could be dead.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But.

[A]

And that's my problem.

[B]

But I got a kid and that's

[A]

why I was still fighting in the club.

[B]

I'm not going.

[A]

Cause I'm gonna kill you.

[B]

I'm not gonna kill you. Cause not. Cause I'm scared of you.

[A]

Oh, it's cuz I'm scared. I ain't. I didn't need to get.

[B]

I don't want, you know, I want my daughter to be able to call me type.

[A]

And as a boy, luckily, as a. As a lady, that. And I. I'm scary. I never said I was. I didn't even need.

[B]

Well, the scare people to kill you first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They be the one to kill you. Cause they be scared me.

[A]

That's why when somebody said, I need to get a gun, I said, you a damn liar. Beating, shot somebody on accident. My God damn it. Who opened the dog? Damn. I done killed the dog, you know, Just on accident. I don't need nothing.

[B]

You don't need nothing?

[A]

Nope. My daddy is a haul away.

[B]

Yeah. Your daddy live here, right?

[A]

About 50 minutes. It'll take him. Take him 50 minutes, and I'm gonna sit there and wait. Please. Jeffrey Bell is on his way, y' all spoiled ass. Oh, well, so you did talk about, you know, this is. We're kind of age shaming you just a little bit. We have kind of whacked you over the head a couple of times with that age. But, you know, you talk. You should be. You should be. You know, age is a privilege, what people act.

[B]

Exactly. Because if you're not getting older, you're dead.

[A]

Exactly as hell.

[B]

Today is the youngest I'm going to be.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Today's the youngest we all going to be. Yeah, you can lie, but tomorrow you can say, I'm proud.

[A]

I can't wait to. You know, I'm old soul for real. But, like, seriously, when I was a kid, like, the number one thing I wanted to be was an adult.

[B]

Right. Till you realize what come with it.

[A]

Yeah. But I still love being an adult.

[B]

I don't like the bills part, though.

[A]

I don't either. But it's like whenever I pay every month. Wow. Every month.

[B]

You'll never get a month free.

[A]

No, you don't like, what the is up with that?

[B]

Everything be like, oh, this free. Like, why bills don't be free? Why bills could show, like, why Trump don't be like, no bills next month, man. Then you be like, I mean, he start rethinking. I mean, I don't. You.

[A]

I mean, still do that with the stimulus check. I mean, he gave me 1200.

[B]

Like, come on, nigga, them 1200 gone

[A]

that year before it hit your ass.

[B]

And he did not give it to you. Congress did.

[A]

Okay, you gave it to your dummy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

PPP loans. But anyways.

[B]

Yeah. Huh?

[A]

In your special, you talked about getting that prostate check.

[B]

Yeah, you got to.

[A]

I'm so glad you said that, because Kev on stage actually made a video recently where he was just talking about, like, you know, fellas go to the doctor. And they was like, oh, this. This nigga got his booty touched that. I was like. He said, you know what? Nevermind. N. Don't go. I'm like, bro, what's going on in

[B]

the psyche for me? I guess I grew up in a different time, and I grew up around, like, some real, like, real dudes. Right. Kind of like you. I kind of had, like, a old soul. So I never was homophobic. I never was like, that dude that felt uncomfortable around somebody with a different sexuality because I know who I am. So, like, I never say the pause thing. I know what I was talking about. If you chose to think about dick, that's on you. Yeah, I was talking about this. I don't know why. Dick on your mind.

[A]

I just. Absolutely.

[B]

So. I don't know why I'm pausing. You don't like bananas, why am I pausing? You the one thing about dick, I'm talking about a banana, right? So with that being said, the whole prostate, like those people who saying that, like, to me it's just like, dude, what you running from? So you rather be dead?

[A]

A lot of black folks are scared of that doctor.

[B]

Like, I mean, and it's a choice. I mean, it's cool. But I don't have an issue with going to the doctor, like, and get him. I got great insurance, so I'm gonna use it. Hell, I got ppo. See, and if you don't know what PPO is because you don't even have insurance, so you wouldn't know I don't have insurance.

[A]

I didn't know. I got Obama just now.

[B]

Yeah, ppo, it's a flex, another flex, another, another. It's a light flex for the people who got good insurance, you know, like, they probably be like, that's what I'm talking about.

[A]

You know. Last time I heard ppo, I was watching John Q. Yeah. And he mentioned ppo, and I said, I just know he ain't have it.

[B]

So PPO basically mean like, you could just, you could go to the doctor,

[A]

you could just go anytime, see a specialist. Ooh.

[B]

If your insurance is like borderline, your doctor, you gotta get it approved.

[A]

So do you have CO pays?

[B]

You still have CO pays, but like, let's say you wanna go see a cardiologist. You could just go.

[A]

You don't have to get a referral.

[B]

You don't have to get a referral.

[A]

I need that. Cause I like going to the doctor.

[B]

Yeah. So that's a ppo.

[A]

Okay, I need ppo. Okay. I need to get ppo.

[B]

You just pick it up, be like, yo, come through tomorrow. My heart feel weird, you know. Whereas you got other insurance. Your heart feel weird. They be like, all right, we'll see you in November. I'm be dead.

[A]

Yeah, I'm going to be dead.

[B]

I say my heart, not my pinky toe.

[A]

Yeah, that's desperate. Serious now I know the budgets that I need to be going for. I need some ppo.

[B]

So if you meet a duty, like, yeah, I got that. People like, okay, okay, I'm going to

[A]

start putting out, people like it.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz if you get Married, you could

[A]

get on that exactly like n. And that's why folks getting married for real,

[B]

they want some people. Some insurance companies do. Domestic partners. You only have to be married.

[A]

So how long you got to be with them? What, to qualify?

[B]

Some of them do. I don't.

[A]

Five ain't bad. Five ain't bad.

[B]

Don't quote me. For sure.

[A]

Okay. We going to have to. Listen, you can get a homeboy. Okay, Listen. The right. The right one. Cohabitate, you know?

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, you got to go to the doctor, man. Like, again, you got kids. So once you have kids and, you know you're a parent, it's not all about you anymore. A lot of decisions you make, you gotta think about your kids, right? You gotta think about, like, this is not just me. You know what I'm saying? So. And I had kids early, so I had my son. I think I was like 22, 23. So I've been a parent a long time. Damn near half my life. So it's like, I've always been making decisions just for. Not just. You know what I'm saying? Whether it be some street stuff, career stuff, anything like. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got this little dude I got to take care of. I got this little dude I got. That's how I went to college.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When I had my son, I was like, damn, I should go to college. Cause later on, I'm gonna want them to go. And I don't want to be like, go. I ain't go. So I went, this nigga still ain't go to college. But he went, you know. But, you know, he quit. And he went. And he quit again. So I don't, you know. But I told her, I said, you know, I tell my kids, like, I'm not forcing college on them. And I'm like, it does. It gives you a better chance of having a better quality of life. But things are changing so rapidly now. You may not have to go to college. You know what I'm saying? If you find your thing and you work it. So I don't really put a lot of pressure, but I was like, but it doesn't hurt to have it.

[A]

Yeah. And they better use that nepotism.

[B]

I don't think about it. And you could be an influencer and still go to college. You could do all that.

[A]

You could do all that.

[B]

You can be a YouTuber, still go to college. Cause it don't hurt to have it. And now, if anything, now you got more experiences to talk About I was

[A]

in college making YouTube videos and if not, nothing at all. Go for the experience. I had a fun time and that's

[B]

what I'm worried about.

[A]

We was running. Babies have that good time.

[B]

Yeah, but I don't want nobody have a good time with my baby.

[A]

Oh well, she, she, she going to be the one having a good time with.

[B]

Yeah, I don't, don't have a good time with my daughter.

[A]

Oh, they going to have a blessing, cuz.

[B]

I'll pull up.

[A]

Oh, well, you ain't going to know about it.

[B]

Dad, if she call, I will. Yeah, that's my fear.

[A]

She only gonna call you when she gets some money. Yeah, she needs some money.

[B]

Oh, I told my daughter, you gonna eat on that meal plan? You gonna eat that meal plan.

[A]

Well that's fun eating in the caf with all your friends. But after freshman year it's like, okay,

[B]

dad, like, no, no, you don't eat that meal plan and you're not getting your car the first year.

[A]

Oh, she gonna have that real experience. Yeah, at tsu they ride the scooters.

[B]

Well, you know she has a car. And so when we, we went on the official visit, they was like, yeah, you could have your car first year. I was like, man, shut the fuck up.

[A]

They didn't allow us to bring cars.

[B]

They changed it. But I told her she's not getting her car first year. Me and her mom agreed.

[A]

Like, you know what I feel like, honestly that was a good experience, us being so. Cause it forced us to like depend on each other. I feel like everybody I met my freshman year of college, I'm still very close to.

[B]

Also what I'm worried about is she's a freshman, not some junior or some befriends her. Only cause you cause she has a car.

[A]

Yeah, and that's how that go.

[B]

Whoever had the car, if I try to tell her that, she's gonna think I'm just being. I'm like, I think this grown ass 21 year old wanna be friends with you.

[A]

You're 18 and don't let the boy. Right, it's gonna be a boy.

[B]

Let me hold the car.

[A]

Yeah, come on, like.

[B]

But see, I got air tags in my daughter cars.

[A]

As you should. That's just a safety.

[B]

So I'd be like, why are you in the third ward? Well, the school, fifth ward, whatever ward. Why you in any ward?

[A]

What you doing over there? Why you at the address? You're not on campus, right? I'm so glad my parents have this

[B]

technology so my daughter knows she can't let nobody hold the car.

[A]

All right, well, that's a good rule,

[B]

because it's like, I got air tax. So if you. If I call. Where you at? I'm in the room. Why your car not there?

[A]

Ooh, listen, if we had locations when we was in college, I'd have been in trouble a couple times. I'm so glad I still felt my parents in the back of my head everywhere I went every night. Hell. Oh, my God. Y' all don't need to do that.

[B]

But you gotta do that nowadays with the whole trafficking and this.

[A]

It's a lot going on. It's a lot going on.

[B]

So, yeah, I got. At least we got that. And then her mom got something on her phone, something called 360.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Track them kids. Yeah, yeah. No, you should track kids.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Especially, you know, that pivotal point where it's like, you're transitioning into being an adult. You're not a real adult. You don't know what the fuck you doing.

[B]

You 17, you going off to a whole nother state.

[A]

The way we used to hop in, folks. Cars. Oh, listen, listen. Those were the days. Oh, yeah. We'll just take a ride. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, you live for a little dangerous fun when you.

[B]

Nah, not with my baby.

[A]

I know. That's where I came.

[B]

I don't play that.

[A]

So we're gonna bring you into our segment. We have a segment called Spin it, where our audience writes us their drama and we give them, quote, unquote, PR advice. Oh, not real advice, but it's like, yeah, you know, we're messy, as you can see. So you're gonna. All right, make it big, Cha.

[B]

Yeah, can't nobody see it. Okay, I can see it now.

[A]

All right, y', all, this is our segment. Sp. Toss in your nasty, lowdown, gutter snipe situations into our podcast, because, as you see, we are messy ladies. We like to give you a little bit of advice, but also put a PR spin on it. Remember to send your messy situations to ningedinmoralpodmail.com. now, remember, Jamil and I are not PR professionals. We just. Quick disclaimer, quick disclaimer. You know, they try to. We're not pr. We're. We just study communications in undergrad, and we do love the unethical nature of pr. That's why this podcast is called Unhinged and Immoral. Don't forget to include your race, your gender, your age, what city you're living in, your political affiliations, and if you're a Man, you need to include your height. Jamila, what do we have this week? What the height got to do now? You know that it changes as a

[B]

short, Man, I. I feel I'm triggered.

[A]

Now, how you knew we was gonna discriminate is.

[B]

It's never.

[A]

It just has to do with that vibe. Ahem. Let's get into it. Hey, Mecca and Jameela love the pod. Y' all be having me weak. Okay, so let's get into it. I'm a 29 year old black female serial overachiever. More context. I have four degrees. God damn, girl, Please leave some for the rest of them. Two bachelors, one master and one doctorate. Okay. She Dr. Wendy Ovo. Well, girl, what the hell you about talk. We don't know shit. I'm a pharmacist, mother to a beautiful baby boy, and engaged to my man. My man. My man. I'm not sending this spinning for y' all to tell me to leave my nigga. Cause you know that's what we'll tell you to do. I relate to y' all so much because I'm close in age to you both and I'm witnessing in real time how your careers are flourishing. I'm at a point where I had these goals to reach before 30, and I've achieved them. So now I'm like, well, what's next?

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

I've always thought that my life and journey would be. Would have been interesting. And content creation has been an idea I've had in the back of my mind for a while. My dilemma now is that I'm a doctor, okay. And social media can turn sour so quickly because people are. What are they? Crazy? Exactly. I work too hard for these credentials to jeopardize them. But I think my life in general and personality could make me a really successful content creator. What advice would you give if I were to pursue content creation? I know you both out. Wait, wait, wait. I know you both work outside of your content. What challenges have you experienced since becoming so known on social media in relation to jobs that you both have? Was it worth it or should I sit my over educated ass down, treat my patients, take care of my baby, and call it a day? Looking forward to the advice. Love y'. All. First things first. Leave your nigga. I'm just playing. That was a good one. We a never had no question like that. We never had no doctor talk to us. I know, doctor. What shall we do?

[B]

Y' all got wide range of artists.

[A]

We do. We do. Well, what would you say?

[B]

I would tell her to do it, like, because it's different. I think when she's thinking content creator, she's thinking ratchet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's different audiences. If you a doctor, lean on that. Lean on your doctor stuff and make content for that audience, there's an audience out there for it. And I think when people just think, they just think silly, stupid stuff. No, lean into your doctor stuff. Lean into certain. I don't know, you know, and then I guess you got to put the disclaimer. But she would know that. She's a doctor. Yeah, but, you know, lean into that part. Like, encourage young girls to have four degrees. You know what I'm saying? Encourage young women to get into pharmacy. You know what I mean? And so I would say do it, but do it in your world. If you do it in your world, you won't get it in trouble because you won't have that ratchet audience anyway.

[A]

True. Listen, I follow several Dr. Content creators, right? Like, several. I'm actually mutual to a one. I can't think of her name on top of my head, but she's an obgyn. And a lot of what her content is is two things. Number one, of course, she talks about different cases. Of course, maintaining that hip. Got to maintain that hip. But, you know, talking about those cases, especially as being a black woman obgyn, it's. It's a whole thing. Right. And then she also. Also talks about fashion. Like, just puts her clothes on. I followed this other doctor. I think his name is Dr. Something. And he gives a lot of advice about, you know, different cases, but he also will say, like, guess this case. Right? So that's cool for if you like a gray anatomy type of beat. And he also does the cross of. Of politics and medicine, so that's really interesting. And if you've ever heard of Dr. Mike, oh, my gosh, he's been making YouTube videos for the past 10, 15 years, and he's still active in family medicine, so.

[B]

And that's another. Yeah, she could be encouraging more black girls to get into pharmacy.

[A]

Yeah. And no shade, girl, if you wanna be ratchet, you ain't never seen Married to medicine. We in Atlanta right now. Like, no shade to the doctors, but them ladies get down and they still go and practice what they do and what they went to school for every day. So if you wanted to lean into that, there's a way you could do that. There's a cosmetic chemist, Javon Ford. I love him. And whenever a new product comes out, I sit for his videos because he Breaks down the ingredients in a way that is palatable. Obviously he's black. And I feel like it's really palatable for someone who is not science y. And I can understand, like, basically, should I buy this or should I not? So you could lean into either direction. Even if you want it to be more like a lifestyle. Not necessarily like lean into your career. You're making money. Okay. And if you're interested already, you start off with, you said, I'm a doctor. Four degrees. You see how we gagged? We gagged. So it's like you could be like, listen, I just got left the office. We finna go on vacation. We finna do this. I got the baby. You have a. A lot of different avenues you can go because you're so interesting already. Yeah, definitely.

[B]

I mean, you could. She got possibly gonna have a blended family sound like so you could lean into that, you know?

[A]

Oh, I didn't even. I thought the man.

[B]

I don't think the dude is. It don't sound like it.

[A]

I see how you just.

[B]

It didn't read like that to me.

[A]

That's how, you know we had different minds.

[B]

Was it just me?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

Read it again. Like bring it up.

[A]

Read it. Well, she just said she has a beautiful baby boy and she's engaged. So I don't. I just assumed it was to that man. To the man.

[B]

Maybe. I don't know.

[A]

The way she a baby.

[B]

She didn't say the father ain't come off like that. Maybe it's just me.

[A]

Cuz you feel like she would have made sure to be like, and we have a baby. Yeah, okay. I can see it that way.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I didn't read it like that.

[A]

Either way.

[B]

Either way, girl, she say, I have a beautiful baby and I'm engaged to my man.

[A]

That's cuz you got them kids. You got that kid. My non kids.

[B]

So that's why I read it. Like, I didn't read it.

[A]

That it could be. You know what? That would be interesting too.

[B]

But that's what I'm saying. You got the blended family. Or even if it is the. The dad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you don't want to put your kid in it, you can put the dude in it.

[A]

And what I will tell you, because I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, but I've seen it a couple of times. The young ladies and young fellows, they want to get in consecration. The first thing they do is quit their job. Okay, well now hold on.

[B]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't quit my pharmacy. Especially with the schedules they have. They don't even work a lot. They work like firefighters.

[A]

No, for real, you make money.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the good thing is, is you are not hurting for cash. Cuz we, we already know how that go, sister. Okay, so you're not hurting for cash. So this is one of those things that it could just be a hobby for you in the start so you can just get your groove, figure out what type of content you want to make and then on top of that not being like, oh my gosh, but I have to meet this quota so I can make this money on. Because I know you asked what it's like, you know, working and being a content creator. Now I will tell you that's an interest. That's an interesting bid. I officially quit working full time a little over a year ago. And if I would have been able to do it soon, I would have honestly, because it was, you know, imagine being at work and people come up to you similar to like, you know, actors. And they're like, bitch, what the fuck you doing here? Bitch, I'm poor. What do you mean?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, and so it was a very jarring experience. That was not the funnest but like, you know, I still had to pay that rent every first. So it's an interesting thing now with you, you know, it's a different thing because you're a pharmacist. It's more of a quote unquote glamorous job.

[B]

And she also kind of like, because she's the pharmacist. She's, she's even in the back. Yeah, they won't even see her unless they request to speak to the pharmacist.

[A]

You don't even have to, we don't have to know where you are. We don't have to know what CV is. There were a lot of people who make content who work nine to fives are very. There's a. One of one of my mutuals, Lex, she just got a new job job with a really big company that she can't even disclose very much. NDA type of job. And she makes content about like, what's it called, reality shows and pop culture stuff like that. But she never talks about her job. You can also do that like you have. I mean the world is your oyster. You sound like you have a perfect life. What do you need us for? She's complaining about nothing.

[B]

Tired of just dropping pills in the bottom it's boring. Yeah, no, it pays a lot. She's probably bored.

[A]

But you could still get that off, girl. You could definitely get that off. I know for me, I started my own business because similar to you, the point where I started getting recognized at my 9 to 5, I cussed too much. So I was like, oh, I'm cucked in corporate with my particular content. But I don't think you would have that exact issue that I had. I was just like, oh, I gotta go make some shit shake over here. Even as a pharmacist, if you wanted to start your own business. My best friend is a pharmacist and she actually worked for a makeup skincare company as like. And she does TikTok and she does. And she makes tiktoks shout out to Koussi Dr. Kusi. So it's like doctor. And she works like she loves what she does and she's doing stuff that has her interest. Like it has to do with girly makeup and all this type of thing. So you could find something in pharmacy that actually isn't gonna hold you to a pharmacy every day. Cause she doesn't work in the office, she works from home. So everybody loves black girl luxury tickets, you know what I'm saying? They eat that shit up every time when they see a black girl come up. Guys, I'm going on vacation because I just got off my shift being a doctor and yes, I have money and I'm gonna show you guys my new Louis Vuitton. They eat that up every time.

[B]

It could even be just even normal stuff. I just got off my pharmacy job and now I was the boss and now I'm about to go home and make dinner.

[A]

You're gonna make so much money on speaking engagements. People are so interested. The folks love a black doctor. Come speak at this conference at this girl boss.

[B]

I only want my doctor to be other or black. Yeah, it got to be like Indian or black.

[A]

I like how you slid the Indian.

[B]

Yeah, it got to be like other.

[A]

You know, they be knowing they stuff.

[B]

Yeah, it can't be like American. You got to be black American or country. I can't spell.

[A]

You don't do white doctors. No, medical racism is really, honestly too real. And they actually talk about medical racism so much on Married to Medicine. Which is why I'm saying even if you wanted to be messy, you could still eat that up. Cuz that's a big part of the. And correct me if I'm wrong with being a pharmacist, aren't you Kind of like the boss.

[B]

You kind of like the boss. And the hours is so flexible.

[A]

So it's like, who's going to tell you to stop posting them Tik Toks? I'm thinking like, if you was a nurse, I can understand. Because them nurses be getting in trouble every day on Tik Tok. They be doing too much.

[B]

But they be posting at work.

[A]

They do. And they be posting. They. They be showing. I'm like, you getting in trouble, but versus like being a pharmacist, I feel like you have a little bit more leeway. And again, as long as you don't break, as long as you're not posting and what you prescribing them people, you should be.

[B]

But you know, a lot of these jobs now, I think because of content creation, a lot of them put that in there.

[A]

They surely do. And I'm glad I'm not gonna break them claws every time. When I was still working at that Avis, I was making videos and I was. That Avis.

[B]

You do got an old soul. Cause that's how that Avis. That's like saying, duh, Facebook, you ain't gonna tell.

[A]

I was working at the Coca Cola headquarters.

[B]

The Coca Cola on my phone.

[A]

You can't. I was never that good at working for real. I knew. And I think, because I always knew that this is what I wanted to do, I could never fully take a job seriously. Like, my subconscious wouldn't let me.

[B]

And you got your dad as background.

[A]

Oh, God. I could always go home.

[B]

See what I'm saying? Look at that. Look at that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's security blanket her blue claws. Blue shield.

[A]

Listen, that's why we moved Mom. Because my dad wasn't teaching Social Security.

[B]

And now you're trying to get your

[A]

daddy into her and we can live off the social. My daddy a veteran.

[B]

You trying to get your daddy.

[A]

I'm about to buy a house off that. He ain't used to that, Bill. Come on now, somebody. That's good. That's. Thank you. Yay.

[B]

You the only child?

[A]

No. I have a little brother, but he lives with me too. See how I.

[B]

Did your little brother live with you?

[A]

Yeah, I went and got me a nice cup, some bedrooms. Everyone got a bedroom. He is 28.

[B]

Okay. Grown ass man.

[A]

He a grown ass man.

[B]

He got a job, so he dropping dick off in the house.

[A]

Oh, oh, no. I said please don't do that. Oh, well, you out here now. I was going to say now. I don't know. I don't know what's going On.

[B]

You might want to watch. Wipe your counter down. When you go back home, wipe your island down.

[A]

He got a whole different bathroom. I don't.

[B]

He might be in the kitchen on the counter.

[A]

That's the. When I buy a house, I'm gonna get a bigger house. But I feel like the house I have now is respectable. And like we said, if shit go left, that Social Security gonna cover it.

[B]

Nice. I like Houston, man. I gotta get back out.

[A]

It's a good vibe.

[B]

I was just up there with my boy Ali.

[A]

Ali?

[B]

Yeah, my homeboy Ali.

[A]

Sadiq, period. I love that. I think Deontay just interviewed him. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I was trying to holla at.

[A]

After this.

[B]

I like his show.

[A]

I do, too. It's good. You get on there. You get on there.

[B]

That's. That's the type of.

[A]

That's boys. He said boys? Yeah, y' all can do boys. Okay. I can be a boy. Top five rappers today. Look how he got into it. This. Yeah, now he comfortable. Oh, I've been waiting to talk about some nigga.

[B]

Shit, I don't even know who the rappers is right now.

[A]

Well, you can. Who are your top five rappers?

[B]

My top five rappers is Andre 3000.

[A]

Okay. Period. Period. Exactly.

[B]

With his flute number. I. It ain't even close.

[A]

Okay. You all right with me so far?

[B]

I got T.I.

[A]

come on. She's a T.I. stan.

[B]

I got Jay Z in there.

[A]

Just Jay Z. Respectable.

[B]

You gotta just.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

If you like rap.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's hoes, then episode. Get tricky four and five.

[A]

It's like you feel Lil Wayne in there.

[B]

There was a time.

[A]

There was a time. Yeah, that's fair. There was a time.

[B]

Now I got Cole in there.

[A]

Come you about to take my top five. I'm waiting for that last shoe to drop.

[B]

I don't know who that last one is. There's so many, you know, you want to say.

[A]

You want me to say it for you?

[B]

Who you? Kendrick.

[A]

Kendrick, my Gemini king.

[B]

I like Kendrick.

[A]

Oh, Kendrick is. He's hard.

[B]

Kendrick is nice.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, he.

[A]

He's my brother in California.

[B]

Ooh. It could be Kendrick.

[A]

But you don't have no one from Florida in your top five. Nah, nah. You know, sometimes you gotta ask. People throw people in there just. Cause, you know, he from. He from Wyford.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I mean, that's the answer.

[B]

I like. I like Trick, though. I like Trick if he was top 10.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Trick in there. Oh, I like Trick.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

If. If it's top 10, I'm going throw trick and Kodak.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I'mma throw both of them hometown, you know, some respect.

[B]

Well, I think they deserve it if it's 10.

[A]

10.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? 10.

[A]

I think top 10. I think that's the 10 I think

[B]

Kodak would make for me. I'm not saying that. However somebody else feels.

[A]

No, I feel like if you have to say that's my top five top ten, you canish it down to like Anisha. That's where start getting niche. You gotta be like, well, listen, you don't know what he did for me.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? But that last one will be. I don't know. And it's. It's cuz crazy because it's like you'll leave here and you'll be like, damn,

[A]

I should have said it. Yeah.

[B]

So I'm gonna just leave it.

[A]

You save it and you tell Deontay. Yeah, we gonna send you to the grits and eggs.

[B]

Send me. Send me the grits and eggs, man. But yeah, that. But 3,000 is number one hands down for me.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

3,000 is.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

Nobody's close.

[A]

I think we're all still holding out for something.

[B]

I hold out all. I be like, come on, man.

[A]

Cause when he teased with that goddamn flute, he said, no, no. It's literally just.

[B]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you how much of a fan I listened to that whole game.

[A]

Everybody move out. Let me just wait.

[B]

Like I know he gonna say something.

[A]

He ain't saying damn thing. Do, do do. It was very relaxing, I guess. No, it was nice.

[B]

Won a Grammy with a flute.

[A]

Yeah. I like to play it in the background and then you know, you know this Andre 3000 playing flute.

[B]

If you can't fall asleep, you put that thing on. It's relaxing.

[A]

Played flute on other people's songs. I want to know what songs those are. You can't just say stuff. He's so sneaky. I'm just waiting on the day I find him in the streets with that damn flute.

[B]

Andre, this how Andre going if he does drop it? He'll drop it at midnight on a Wednesday.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Won't go to say nothing. Won't say a thing and then wake. The whole Internet just be tore up in the morning, everybody going crazy.

[A]

That's just what I felt like.

[B]

That's how you going to do it?

[A]

That is. Yeah.

[B]

He wouldn't. He not going to make no announcement. He's just Going to drop it.

[A]

His fan base is so strong that it's going to be.

[B]

He know that he ain't got to do nothing. And then everybody going to wake up late for work.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Cuz if we listening.

[A]

Yeah. You know, that's going to be a day I'm.

[B]

That's what's going to happen. It's going to happen.

[A]

I think it into existence universe.

[B]

I think it's going to happen. We'll see.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know, then he'll come on here with y'.

[A]

All. Okay. Let me tell you, don't even tease the big money man telling us Andre gonna come on. See, I'm trying to work on my. My being starstruck. No, me being starstruck because I get weird. You know what I mean? And so I'm really trying to hold myself. You admit it. Oh, listen, I bussy. I. I beat it. Just, just.

[B]

You would have to meet him before y' all meet.

[A]

A little banter beforehand.

[B]

Cause you would just be like this.

[A]

I would just be, like, not asking no questions. I would. I would just be like. So I type a text to a girl I want to see. I would just start rapping and being weird. He be like, all right, like, you know, he already not trying to be in public, and I got to. I'm sorry, I overstimulate him, Mr. Benjamin. I got excited.

[B]

He's different, man. He's his own thing.

[A]

But I'm hoping, you know, he just would think I'm funny or something. That's all I got.

[B]

You funny, though.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[B]

I can tell you funny. You very outgoing. You like. You talk to anybody.

[A]

She doesn't.

[B]

Yeah, you look.

[A]

But I'm comfortable.

[B]

You look like you'll hold a whole conversation.

[A]

Oh, I can hold a conversation by myself with a stranger for days.

[B]

You single?

[A]

And he said he wasn't messy. He said he wasn't messy. He said he wasn't messy.

[B]

I'm asking. No, that's not messy.

[A]

You don't think it's messy?

[B]

Is it? I didn't know.

[A]

It can be.

[B]

Well, you gotta let me know what's messy.

[A]

You're not single.

[B]

Oh, well, never mind. Okay, see, now that's getting a little messy. See, I ain't trying to go that far.

[A]

Are you single?

[B]

I'm gonna leave it alone.

[A]

I'm like, I am not single. Okay, come on now. Ain't. Ain't nothing on it, but now I'm.

[B]

Well, whoever you talk to gonna be like, what the that mean? Somebody gonna be upset. Y' all must Go edit this part out.

[A]

Cause somebody edit nothing out. This part could stay. We talk about this all the time.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

This is my answer every time I give it. That's why. That's why baby knew we was gonna tell her to leave her.

[B]

Hey, bro. Hope, Be strong, okay? Whoever you are, be strong. You are not getting claimed.

[A]

Ooh. Ooh. Now that was messy. You messy.

[B]

That was messy.

[A]

That was messy. Yes. Okay.

[B]

I don't know what messy is. She's literally doing it, though.

[A]

Are you single?

[B]

Me?

[A]

Mm.

[B]

I'm not married.

[A]

He just said what we said. Lady, you ain't being claimed. She said you in Atlanta with them young hoes. With the young hoes giggling on everybody Them couch. They aunties.

[B]

They aunties.

[A]

Whoever that lady is.

[B]

On aarp, I was with the aunties, man.

[A]

And that. What else you said the handicap party.

[B]

I ain't dealing with no said no uterus. No uterus.

[A]

That's no uterus. Unfortunately.

[B]

She still got a uterus.

[A]

I still do.

[B]

Yeah. Hell no.

[A]

I'm waiting on the day she decide to go. My God, on today.

[B]

Girl, you got a long time. You got a long.

[A]

They said the menopause started 40, don't they. Don't they say the menopause.

[B]

You still got a long time, Even

[A]

if it is 10 years. 10 years. But 10 years went by fast. I was just with high school about 10 years ago. Wait, I'm tripping. No college. College.

[B]

I would hope you wasn't in High School 10 years ago.

[A]

No, guys, it's scary. Oh, my God. 2016 was 10 years ago. Controller. That's scary. Controller.

[B]

When y' all got outta high school? What?

[A]

2014.

[B]

2014.

[A]

Yeah, aunties.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, aunties. I didn't. I didn't. You learn something new every day. I know. I did not know 30 was aunties.

[A]

Yeah, you know, but that's why you gotta. That's why. That's why you gotta hang out with the cat. How old are you? I have to.

[B]

Yeah, like I'm 40 something.

[A]

Cause you starting dropping years and I'm like growing. When you said no, you. I said no, you said you was grown in 2012. So that grown is. Cause you moved in 2012. If you move in cross states, that's too. As you was very grown in 2012. You was in the club and business casual.

[B]

Yeah, grown as hell, man. Man, I usually sit like this.

[A]

Were you in forex tal as an adult or as a teenager? Were you in forex tall te's as an adult?

[B]

No, I was a young adult, like first out of high school. YT's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Arabs. We used to call them Arabs.

[A]

Aabs.

[B]

Yeah, cuz you get them from the Arab store.

[A]

Screaming yes. Arab is also very timely. They don't even say that no more.

[B]

Yeah, that's. See, y' all call them tall TE's, depending where you at in the country. In Miami, we call them Arabs.

[A]

Man, I. I so wanted to. Around that time period, I wanted to be in the club, just.

[B]

Yeah, it was a good time period.

[A]

Oh, I know. I used to watch the video. I was so mad.

[B]

Duck if you buck.

[A]

Oh my God, man.

[B]

Y' all shouldn't have been knocking in buck.

[A]

Oh, I was knocking everybody to fight.

[B]

Okay. You shouldn't have been knocking.

[A]

Everything y' all did, I did on the recess.

[B]

Y' all was too young for that.

[A]

I actually got in trouble. I was popular, doing the goodies dance. My teacher said, you should have. Yeah, you know, I was like seven. She said, excuse me, I never came in. Older black women. Uh, I used to be. I would show my parents, like, y' all wanna see about this? She said, girl, I never did. Girl, I always wanted to be grown fast ass. Kidding. Yes, I'm fast today.

[B]

That's why you auntie now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, thank you so much for this was. So have a great time.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, where can we find you?

[B]

You guys find Malik s comedy on everything. Instagram, Twitter.

[A]

And where can we watch your special Facebook.

[B]

YouTube. Malik S YouTube. Laughing voodoo. It'll pop right up. Laugh. Watch it. I'm telling you, it's funny. I was watching it early.

[A]

I was like this, dude, I love laughing at myself. I do too. I rewatch my own video. Like I was just scrolling. Literally yesterday, I was like, yo, I'm funny.

[B]

You funny.

[A]

I hate that. Have you done stand up One time.

[B]

How'd it go?

[A]

It went okay. It was a three minute set. Literally. Open up.

[B]

You improv or you had to?

[A]

No, I wrote something. Well, I didn't write like line for line, but I just wrote like the bit right the beat. And I was. My good friend Mel Mitchell, who's a stand up comedian, she was like, you're doing it. And so she pulled me over there. We did it and I just needed to rip that band aid off. But.

[B]

But you don't love it.

[A]

No, I'm ready to get back into.

[B]

Oh, you ready? Cause I was like, if you loved it, you would have went back.

[A]

I was very scared shitless. I'm not gonna lie. That was the scaredest I've ever been in life, and I've done a whole bunch of random. I'm gonna do it, make it funny. You have been.

[B]

You got a stage presence, appreciate you. I think you could be fun. You lean into that old soul.

[A]

Yes, thank you. I think you got something I've been writing down. Mature.

[B]

I think you got some.

[A]

You know, I just hadn't got a chance to go back, but I'm about to hit them. Yes.

[B]

Get outside, man. You in the right city. I can hook you up with all the comics.

[A]

Oh, do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When it get real. I was gonna say phone call. And for me, do a little acting gig, you know, Phone call. You know, just a phone call. See, that's the networking black people. Networking, networking.

[B]

Kevin on stage can hook you up.

[A]

Oh, I sent my. I sent my. My thing to him. I said, look at this. Tell me, send me. What about it? Tell me what I need to do.

[B]

Send him your little set. Okay?

[A]

I sent it to him. And Tahir, I'm like, I ain't gonna post it.

[B]

You got Tahir. You got my man Tahir. That's. That's my boy.

[A]

Yeah, Tahir is funny.

[B]

Tahir is my boy.

[A]

Tahir is funny.

[B]

You know, that's my. That's my young boy.

[A]

He's younger than you.

[B]

Yeah, I think tier a couple years younger than me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, he couple years tier old. Soul too, though.

[A]

He is, yeah.

[B]

He act older than what he is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But that's my man I rock with. He look like he could be y' all brother.

[A]

Well, it's. Cause he's a ginger.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause he's a ginger Tahir.

[B]

A wild boy.

[A]

Oh, we shout out to Tahil, man. We. We know we already. I turned 30 during the filming, and Tahir said, anything you need for your birthday? I said, and he means anything. Okay. One thing about it, I live for a new Tahir story every time I'm with him. Like, tell me something that we. He just told us about hedonism. Yeah, he did. I said, oh, that's so interesting. Tell me more. Listen, we went out with here in la and she got. They got some tattoos. Yeah, we went and got the tattoos just off the strength. Just the night I was here. He's like, y' all want to go get a tattoo? I said, yeah, actually, just.

[B]

Wow. Loose.

[A]

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