Unhinged & Immoral
Episode Summary – “Have You Tried Lying?”
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Release Date: September 24, 2025
Overview:
In “Have You Tried Lying?”, hosts Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans return to their roots with a wild, candid, and hilarious episode. They pull back the curtain on the hectic behind-the-scenes reality of producing podcast interviews, balancing internet fame with real life, and growing both their show and themselves. This episode is equal parts industry deep-dive, best friend banter, sex and relationship real talk, and a thoughtful, critical view on internet politics and modern parenting.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Podcast Growth, Production, and Batch Recording
- Hustle & Strategy: The hosts reflect on their recent run of high-profile interviews and the learning curve of batch recording multiple episodes in quick succession.
- Jamila: “We honestly have taken several weeks off of recording because we like recorded all of those in the span of like, what, 10 days.” [03:17]
- Mecca was initially skeptical about changing their usual weekly recording: “I was skeptical about the batch recording.” [03:34]
- Industry Lessons: Advice for aspiring podcasters regarding professionalism, scheduling, and the need to adapt:
- “Talent always has somewhere to be. So you need to be very, very, like, on your toes and, like, very timely.” – Jamila [11:01]
- Learning on the Job: The friends share mishaps (like snacks stolen from a shared office fridge and furniture mishaps with taller guests), using mishaps as teachable moments.
- “That week we were just learning, going on the fly, like taking notes, like, okay, this is what we need to do. This is what we not need to do.” – Mecca [07:43]
2. Networking, Relationships, and Community
- How Guest Interviews Came Together: A deep dive into how their web of relationships in the PR/podcast/music scenes made recent episodes possible.
- “If it had not been for Community, you would not have had the episodes you had. Y'all just don't even know.” – Jamila [18:29]
- On networking: “Unfortunately, you do have to be nice to get. And I think that's where the dots aren't connecting…” – Mecca [19:14]
- Shouting Out Collaborators: The hosts spread love to their collaborators, venues, and live band partners—shining a light on Atlanta’s creative scene.
3. Reflections and Favorite Moments
- Biggest Milestones: Both hosts share the thrill of seeing their ideas become reality—like sharing space with beloved podcasters and running live “Unhinged & Unplugged” sessions with musical guests.
- “I want to get better. I don't ever really want it to get too regular…that sense of like, oh my God, like this is my life, I don't ever want to lose that…” – Mecca [25:23]
- Studio moments: “One of my favorite moments was honestly walking into the Poor Mindset. Of course, you know, they are under 85 South show, which is, you know, for me and comedy…just being able to walk into that studio, I truly felt like, damn…” – Jamila [26:16]
4. Sex, Dating, and Safe Spaces
- Unfiltered Sex Talk: Consistent with the podcast’s tone, Jamila and Mecca riff about safe sex, raw dogging, and the perils of car sex. This is part comedy, part real talk, and underscores their mission of honesty.
- Notable Rant: “Condoms irritate me so bad because it's like afterwards your pussy smells like a tire…” – Mecca [44:55]
- Advice Section Preview: Later, they answer a listener letter about strict parents and the realities of living at home post-grad—a conversation packed with laughter and real wisdom.
5. Politics & Digital Culture
- Commentary on Political Spectacle: The hosts unpack the fallout from the (fictional) Charlie Kirk shooting, critiquing the shallowness of online political discourse and social media moralism.
- “Our politics in this country have left politics and they have entered into personal vendettas against things.” – Jamila [54:04]
- Mecca calls out the influencer-politician blend: “I would consider Charlie Kirk…an influencer, like, for all intended purposes…” [56:27]
- Push for Critical Thinking: Both hosts argue for nuance, criticizing both left and right for failing to “flesh out” their talking points and using label-driven scare tactics (e.g., “socialist,” “radical,” “anti-Semite”) without critical thought.
- Disinformation and Anti-Blackness: The Jamie Foxx/Jennifer Aniston anti-Semitism controversy is dissected as an example of misplaced outrage and racial double standards.
6. Parenting, Boundaries & Coming of Age
- Raising Kids in a Digital World: A sharp, sometimes hilarious critique of how many parents fail in monitoring their kids’ online behavior, especially in the context of radicalization.
- “Why the fuck you don't know your kid is falling down an alt right pipeline and you're not stopping they ass…” – Jamila [67:51]
- Personal Boundaries: Both hosts reflect on evolving from strict upbringings, establishing their own boundaries by “disappointing” their parents to force a parent-to-adult-child transition.
- “Sometimes you need to tell your parents, like, and the thing is our parents are so used to being our parents that it sometimes takes them a minute to be like, oh, they're grown…” – Jamila [81:50]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Bring back Community. As we say, every episode snaps, snaps in the chat.” – Jamila [18:22]
- “Y’all want community, but don’t want to contribute to the community. And it’s never going to work like that.” – Mecca [19:14]
- “I just want to shout out to Kev again real quick… Kevin, not only has he continuously brought us to LA… he will continue to do that.” – Jamila [20:12]
- “Talent always has somewhere to be. So you need to be very, very, like, on your toes and, like, very timely.” – Jamila [11:01]
- “We didn't buy the furniture and the motherfucker, six foot, mind you… Two side long ass legs just buckled up in that damn seat. My bad too.” – Jamila [08:45]
- “Raw dog life. But crazy. It's insane to say, yeah, let me just raw it.” – Jamila [44:08]
- On Jamie Foxx’s “They booed Jesus too” controversy: “When Jennifer Aniston called Jamie Foxx anti Semitic for being black and saying they booed Jesus too… I said, we're lost.” – Mecca [63:12]
- “Lie to your parents. You never thought about lying. You're 22. Lie.” – Jamila [88:38]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Batch Recording Reflections: [03:18]-[05:16]
- Lessons from Guest Interviews: [06:45]-[12:00]
- Networks, Community, and Behind the Scenes: [14:00]-[19:00]
- Favorite Milestones & Moments: [22:46]-[26:16]
- Unfiltered Sex/Condom Rant: [44:17]-[47:00]
- Politics/Charlie Kirk Fallout: [53:09]-[63:45]
- Parenting, Boundaries, and Upbringing: [67:51]-[76:46]
- Advice Letter: Strict Parents & Sneaky Links: [77:00]-[96:47]
Listener Spin-It: Letters & Real Talk
Question:
22-year-old listener with strict parents still living at home, wants advice on how to see her broke sneaky link.
Advice from Hosts:
- Don’t let your parents control every move—set boundaries, and don’t be afraid to gently challenge their assumptions.
- Start planning your exit from the house if possible (“figure out an exit plan, and get you a timeline and save up.” – Jamila [87:41])
- “This is PR, right? This is a spinning... I never said this was gonna be moral. This is never going to be ethical. Lie to your parents.” – Jamila [88:38]
- Don’t let a broke 26-year-old become your main focus. Both hosts riff hilariously about the realities of being broke and young—while nudging the listener to put herself first.
Tone & Style
The hosts are unfiltered, funny, and deeply relatable—mixing irreverent humor with genuine advice and sharp-edged cultural critique. Even the most serious topics are handled with warmth, wit, and empathy.
Conclusion
This episode of Unhinged & Immoral blends internet gossip, backstage podcast hustle, candid sexuality, and sharp political commentary into a highly entertaining package. Whether riffing on being “raw” in life and love, or urging listeners to value and create real community, Jamila and Mecca remain as “unhinged” (and hilarious) as ever.
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