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Jameela
She flowing in that cash talk Walk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them bitches whoop, whoop from the jaguar it ain't even right, though Push me and I might go she ain't getting money I'm like, what the fuck the hype for when them bitches bite Flow make my appetite go poof gone, Voila. Magic Looking mad good just to pull up on them Ramping.
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Mecca
Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral. It's our New Year's episode. I'm Mecca.
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Jameela
I'm Jameela.
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Mecca
New year, new me, new year. What was the meme of the black lady stepping on. Damn. And you know, that came out like, what, like 10 years ago, I believe.
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Jameela
Can we recreate this? By the time you guys see this, we will have recreated that meme.
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Mecca
We will have. No, no, no, no. We will.
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Jameela
I hope you know. And, you know we're gonna be funny. So check back in, check back in, check back in.
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Mecca
They'll probably see that before they see this. Honestly, you'll just know this was the inception of it all.
- [00:55]
Jameela
Exactly.
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Mecca
So how has this year been for you, Jameela? Like, just. Let's do some Google reflection.
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Jameela
Yes. Let's do some.
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Mecca
Where did you start in January? I have to look at my pictures from January.
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Jameela
I was gonna say, let's see.
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Mecca
That really jogs my memory. If I look at my Instagram and just see what was going on this year.
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Jameela
Yes.
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Mecca
That will really bring me back.
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Jameela
I can definitely tell you that. This year has actually been like a roller coaster for me. Okay.
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Mecca
Absolutely.
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Jameela
Roller coaster of emotions. Because we have, like, in the first quarter, I was working a job. I was working at an event space. I was the manager of an event space.
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Mecca
Yes.
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Jameela
And I really enjoyed working there, actually, because I. I have a background in running events. You know, I was the president of BSA at Georgia State, so that's all we did was host events. So I kind of got back in that bag and it was. It was cool. I got to meet a lot of different people. But then how things come to an end. I was laid off because of monetary reasons. The. The company just wasn't able to afford to keep me in my salary. However, the way that that ended was so bad. Like, it actually ended so crazy because. Okay, I never filled this tea, but I'll spill it out. It's the end of the year. So essentially what happened was, like, I said I was laid off at some point, and then I inquired why? Because at this point, me and the person who owned it had a pretty decent working relationship and he was just like, you know, can't afford your salary. And I'm like, hey, here's what it is. There was no, no harm, no foul. We had a set date that the employment was gonna end. I was like, okay, I'll finish out my contract here and then we'll just kind of, just kind of find employment somewhere else. You know, I ain't used to losing a job, right? I'm used to this shit, you know, that ain't that, ain't that new, you know? So as we get closer and closer to the end date, I'm like, hey, you know, quick question, like, are you selling it? Because I think I may have an interested buyer. What I didn't tell him at the time was the interested buyer was going to be me and my parents, and we were going to like purchase it and then just run as a family owned business. Because events, I love events, actually. But long story short, the deal fell through because my parents are very, very smart and my parents were asking very necessary questions. And my parents like business people, right? Money people. So that part of it fell through, but it was still like, no, no tea. It was no tea, no shade. It was like, whatever. There was a, an event that I was assisting that like our final event, essentially, and it was a partnership event, so we were partnering with them. I was helping her run the event and it was a mentorship event for. With the kids at auc. And right before there was some. I don't want to go into all of these because it's like so many details, but I'll just give you the long to the short. There was some weird shit happening, some shady shit happening with the management and this other person that was randomly added to the team. And because they were backed up to the wall and because they were at a position where they didn't really know what to do, they decided to blame me for some things. And they didn't know that it would get back to me because again, they didn't realize that me and the person running this event had actually developed a relationship. So all of the things that were being said about me came right back to me. And I was accused of stealing.
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Mecca
Crazy.
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Jameela
I was just. I was. I was accused of stealing money, which is like, girl, that's.
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Mecca
Why would I take your money? I don't need to take your money.
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Jameela
Y'all don't have no money to take. But it was just a crazy thing.
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Mecca
It's just a lot going away. Yeah.
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Jameela
So I was very devastated because, like, I. I don't. As y'all can see, I don't like when my character is. I don't like when my character is. Put up the question.
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Mecca
She's a Gemini, so she has to come with receipts, and I have to come with receipts.
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Jameela
And so that's what I did. I handled that situation very swiftly. If you guys will recall, I made a video several months ago when this all kind of went down. I said, if things are not handled in 24 hours, I will be. That. That. That. But things were handled, so I never. I didn't come back with that video.
- [05:08]
Mecca
To let the chopper sing like Mariah. Yeah.
- [05:10]
Jameela
I'm a woman of my word. It was handled in the way that it needed to be handled. So that was the. That was the beginning of my year. As things continued to happen. My grandfather passed away.
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Mecca
Yes.
- [05:23]
Jameela
So that was insane. It was. It wasn't so much of a shock as. More so. It was just, like, devastating. You know, my grandfather was, I think, 94 at the time. My grandfather had been dealing with Alzheimer's for several years. So we had this conversation. My dad a while ago was like, yeah. You know, we kind of grieved my grandfather's passing, like, consecutive years. Like, we continuously have been grieving him because.
- [05:49]
Mecca
Yeah.
- [05:49]
Jameela
Because his mental state was. Exactly. So that was. That was a lot for me to handle because it's like. Like aging. That's the. The horrible part about aging. I don't even want to stay on that topic too long. But transitioning.
- [06:03]
Mecca
I'm gonna bring you right back. Because my daddy. But it's all right.
- [06:07]
Jameela
Please. So, of course, you know, dealing with being laid off, my grandfather passing away. Then we get right into my birthday. And honestly, right at my birthday was. Was the tip of things transitioning for me within this year. Right after my birthday, I started. Or right around my birthday, honestly, I started working with my friends. Shout out to Ashley Roberts and Juicy Jerk in Stone Mountain, Georgia. That shit is on Memorial Drive. Shout out to y'all.
- [06:39]
Mecca
Keith Lee said they was good. We knew they was good before Keely.
- [06:42]
Jameela
Said they was good. Clock it. Clock it. But she allowed me to work at her establishment so that I could, you know, have money. I was. I started making money on Tik Tok, but I knew that it was not substantial enough to, like, just quit my job, so I needed to work there so that I can have supplemental income. You know, I am a mother at the end of the day, and I do have to clock in. So I was working in her restaurant, also making TikToks. And I really appreciate her for that because it. It's still. She still allowed me a lot of flexibility to be able to do all the things that I needed to do. Of course, you know, I'm still a doula. I'm still a content creator. I still do all of these things. And things just started to pick up for me, like, online, like, it was just really insane. It just started happening so fast. It felt like a snowball effect. Like, it just came and it was. It was not one. There was not one video that just was the thing that did it. It was just a steady increase, but a very fast increase for me. And so when I got the information that I was going to be awarded to go to One Music Fest, I was like, okay, this means something to me because I've applied for. I applied two years in a row, and I got denied because I was not. I guess my account wasn't substantial, wasn't popping enough. Right. So to be offered that, it's like, wow, okay, this is really cool. Like, yeah, I get something. I'm getting something on top of that. With that coming in, I also was now being reached out from brands, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Wait, wait, wait. And in September, I officially signed a management deal. And we all know what happened in October with the One Music Fest. And that just kind of blew everything up as well. Then, of course, we started the podcast. Like, it. It literally.
- [08:24]
Mecca
Yeah. The latter half of the year has been.
- [08:27]
Jameela
It's been.
- [08:28]
Mecca
Seen the fruits of your labor.
- [08:30]
Jameela
It's been insane. So the. The tail end of this year has been like. I can't even put into words, like, how amazing this has all been, especially because, you know, I've really been wanting this for so long and knowing that, like, oh, my gosh, why am I getting emotional? This is so fucking annoying and lame. But to know that me and Jelani started making videos in, like, 2011, 2012, and I really, like, lost that spirit in me because I stopped making videos for a long time because I was in college and I just wasn't focused, and I just didn't have the bandwidth to do that. And I did not think it was possible to get back into that. I thought I was going to have to, like, just do a whole nother route. And so when TikTok became what it was and I was able to jump in and rebuild a following, what really set it off was people being in my comment section when I was. When I had a very baby Account saying, like, I remember you. You're the girl from black person, Black parents versus white parents back all these years ago. And it's like, oh, shit. Like, y'all. Like, y'all remember that shit? Like, that's actually tea. Like. And so now to be at a place where, like, honestly, Honestly, honestly. And it sounds so corny, but I don't care. I don't care. When I tell you, like, my dreams are literally coming true in front of my eyes. Like, it is so, so insane. Like, to. To really be able to. To see this happening and, like, to be able to be recognized for my work and. And the things that I've always wanted in life. And it's. It's not easy. And it's. It's not easy at all because I've always been the broke friend. I will say that all the time. I've always been the broke friend because I was very conscious and I was very intentional on, like, I don't want to get stuck in corporate, even though I know that's the route I should probably take to make more money. I didn't want to do that because I knew that. I knew myself. I knew stuck in there and I would be miserable. I wanted to make sure I. I took a pay cut for several years working jobs. It just didn't make sense. But I knew that they afforded me a lot of flexibility to be able to put forth in my dreams. And, like, now that that's, like, actually happening, like, I am just so elated, and I'm just. I feel so happy.
- [10:45]
Mecca
It's a blessing.
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Jameela
Yes.
- [10:47]
Mecca
I think I have the same story. I feel like the first half of this year in terms of personal life was riddled with. I won't say uncertainty, but kind of that realization that we are really, really grown. Like, we're grown for real. Like, we're not even, like, oh, early 20s, like, figuring it out. Like, my dad has dementia, and he's in an earlier stage. He's not where your grandfather was at, but he is definitely there. And I think we started this year off with him going missing for, like, three weeks. And I was scary. It was very scary because at the point in which I even brought it to the Internet, I 1000% thought he was dead. The only thing I had asked God for was, you know, just. I don't want. Let me know. You know, put that on my spirit once I feel he's not here no more. So it doesn't, like, shock me. I said, I don't want to, like, find out, but we had started calling Morgz because my dad was at the point where he was in denial about it. I think now he's a bit more. That was a really bad experience for him. And when we found him, he was in really bad shape, but he was in denial. So he was still thinking he could do stuff. He's a street nigga. He's used to hopping on the bus, going all around the Bay Area in Reno, and that's what he did. And he got lost. And the only reason we were kind of keeping track of him was because the bank of America, by my house, my dad had bank of America. I'm not on any of his accounts. He won't put us on any of his accounts because he's very paranoid, thinking, take his money. And I've had to be like, nigga, I'm. I got money. Like, I don't want to take your money.
- [12:19]
Jameela
Please, please.
- [12:21]
Mecca
But, like, so we weren't on any accounts. And so I just literally went into a Bank of America, like, and broke down crying in front of this, like, white bank teller. I'm like, he has dementia. He's missing. I just. I. I know the one thing about him. He gonna keep up with his money. He gonna keep up with that card. And so just going in, she felt so. It was clear she felt so bad for me. All she would tell me, she's like, all I can tell you is if the card is used and, like, one time and one, like, whatever city it is in. So she would tell me the last transaction of the day of the previous day. So that's kind of how we were, like, for three weeks, almost a month. I finally took it to the Internet. And, like, my we. I would call my cousins all throughout the Bay Area, and, like, we were basically like, search parties. Like, okay, his bank. He said he's in San Jose right now. So cousins would go to San Jose. Driving up in the street, it was just, like, very, very stressful. We end up finding him on some Woo Boo shit. This is like. My father has an older brother who is two years older than him. Passed away, is also his favorite cousin, is Darrington's godfather. Passed away as well. I have, you know, pictures of all. Everyone who's gone on to glory in my family on, like, what is this? Like, a shelf or whatever people will call it altar. I feel like everyone has a shelf like that, honestly. Like, pictures of your family. Anyway, child, I put the pictures of them back together right next to each other. It wasn't even right next to each Other, I put them next to each other and I went and got me a little white candle. And I really set a. This was a. This was a Thursday night. I remember I said, this is. I said, God is real. The prayer is real. With however you subscribe to spirituality, that shit is real. Because I. I lit the candle. I said, I need y'all to guide him back to the family. If he's already gone, I need to know that. But if he's not, I need you guys to guide him back to the family, because we're not gonna find him, like. Cause we had started calling the morgues. That was Thursday night. The next day, mind you, the last time I went to bank of America, my dad was in San Jose that Thursday. He had been to San Jose. The next day around 3pm My little cousin, his. His youngest brother's grandson was on the bar on his way home from school with his girlfriend and saw my dad sitting on a bench, disheveled, dirty, not even lucid, and was basically like, Uncle Freddie. But mind you, you gotta remember, this is his grandfather's older brother. So he knows him, but, like, not. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, this is an older family member. And basically went over there and sat with him until, like, his granddad, my dad's brother, came and got him. And they cleaned him up and he didn't stole all his shit, but he did have his wallet in his pocket. Like, I thought so. And I just like, I'm like, damn, blood God is real. Cause like, I just think about the words. I said, please guide him back to the family. Like, you was two hours away yesterday. Like, how you even made it back here. Cause when they found you ain't know what the fuck was going on. So, like, I think about. That was literally at the top of the year for me. Mind you. I got. I got little moms living with me. I'm trying to keep it together. Because that's a lot. I'm just like, it's a lot like, you don't want. You don't want kids to see you, like, breaking down. You know what I'm saying? Like, and. And that. That is like a hard. Oh, my God. I don't want to get emotional either, but, like, that's like a hard. Yeah, it's like a hard balance to have.
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Jameela
It is.
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Mecca
So starting a year there and really trying to be like, okay, we've got him settled. I'm in the process right now trying to bring him back to Texas and put him in, like, A. A veterans memory care home here, which is if you've dealt with the va, that's like a whole process on its own. So it's taking a while, but the home is not too far from where I live. And so, and my brother does eventually Darrington wants to move back to Texas next year. So it's like we are going to be in Houston, so it makes more sense for him to come to Houston. And we were looking at options of putting him in California, but it's just like all his siblings are older. They all have fucking at this point, great grandkids. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody kind of like, okay, this your daddy. You got to step up. Like for real. Like me and Darrington trying to orchestrate, pick him up, take him to doctors, like that. For me, I'm at that transitional point where like I'm the parent where your parents. Which is such a mind fuck to be at. Like, especially if you're. I don't know, like my parents are so much older that a lot of people don't take this role on until like another 10 years when they're like in their late 30s, going into 40s. Me and Darrington have been doing it since we were literally like 23 because his health has. Has, you know, like it's been on steady decline somewhat. So like that's been going on and I feel like the same thing happened for me in June. I hit 500k on tick tock and I didn't even really think too much of it. I'm just still like, I'm. I'm a very glass half full person. So even though all this crazy was going on with me in my personal life, I just, you know, you gotta find the joy every day. It's the. That makes you happy and that's gonna make you laugh. Even with my dad, like we had his nickname now is Tay K because he be trying to do the race. Like, like I like that type of coming from a family that finds humor even in. That's like, oh my God, this shit sucks. But we were laugh, like we were able to laugh, you know, like my auntie I want to put a pictures up. But his sister, who my auntie Pat. Shout out to auntie Pat, she 613 Queen when he was missing and she was posting the selfies like, Fred, please come home.
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Jameela
I said, oh, like girl. The selfie like girl, she trying to.
- [17:16]
Mecca
Get some sympathy from the hoes child.
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Jameela
It was so.
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Mecca
It was so fucking funny. Like, mind you, we're in peril. We're in, like, we're in the panic room. And when she dropped them pictures, the cousin's chat went up. That's what.
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Jameela
So thank you for this laugh and thank you for this.
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Mecca
We needed this. So I hit 500k. I wasn't. I didn't even recognize it. My cousins, my friends, they threw me a whole big little party. They had me a plaque made. Like how you have a YouTube plaque. TikTok don't have no motherfucking plaques.
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Jameela
Yeah, TikTok, get some plaques. Well, shit.
- [17:45]
Mecca
Well, they can't do shit now.
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Jameela
Focus on staying here.
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Mecca
Let me just focus on staying in the mix.
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Jameela
Oh, my bad.
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Mecca
But my turning point was, like, 500K. And then we got to go to Essence and shout out to nosy bystanders. She was. Stephanie picked a whole bunch of people and sent us the Essence. We didn't pay for anything. And that trip, you know, I think a lot of times black people. Well, black publications and companies get a bad rap for, like, shit being unorganized, shit being late. When I say, I will always give Stephanie her tens for that, that's her. That was her first brand trip. And it was so well organized, so well done. We didn't want for nothing. We didn't have any confusion about nothing. It was the tickets, the money was sent, like, everything we needed, she was on top of. And it was. I love that. It was my first.
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Jameela
That was your first experience.
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Mecca
I love that. That was my first experience because that's where I met the Super 5. You know what I'm saying? Like, I met people who I literally became friends with in real life. I had. I had an experience where everything. It wasn't like we were chasing her trying to figure shit out. She had everything handled. I feel like sometimes black businesses get such a bad rap because you have an experience with one black business, and then now all black businesses are back. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, well, y'all don't do that to everybody else. Y'all don't. Because y'all bad experiences with white businesses every day, people. But I can say confidently, I'm so happy that my first big brand as Mechavelli, as this content creator with a real following who was being recognized, was with a black business that did the fucking thing. I'm really thankful for that. And so from Essence, it's been up, up, up, up, up. And it's like, I'm just thinking, like, the uncertainty of where this year started, the pain, and, like, the. The. The fe. The static of where this year started, it's like, it's so lit. And even just the transition of like, I'm. I'm now co parenting little moms, they don't have her full time. And I do think that everything happens for a reason. Because I'm looking at the way things are going. I don't think, like, I could have made it work, you know, in terms of still having her, but it has opened me up to take a lot of opportunities that I know I would not have taken because I would have prioritized her. You know what I'm saying? And so I now having that help with her and being able to like, pursue things, it's like, it just sounds so cliche, but you can literally see where God is setting you up. Because I was, I'll be honest, I did not want to do the co parent thing. Like, at that, at that point, it was my baby. I was like, no, she's mine. And just seeing, like, where it's at now and how it's working so well for her, watching her flourish and become her own person and like, her own personality and like, really sitting back and saying, even though I didn't know much about taking on a child, I knew not to put her goddamn face on the Internet. I'm saying, like, I knew that much and I understand because I know the video you have made about, you know, Noah and everything and like, he's a part of your life. I. Where I was coming from with her, I felt like she's. She was in 8th grade going into.
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Jameela
High school, and there was different circumstances.
- [20:47]
Mecca
It's different circumstances. We're so local. We be outside. She has. She's at the point where she has to have her own identity and I didn't. And I wanted her to have the chance to, like, build that and create that for herself without being in the shadow of being like little moms. And even she. She's. She's gotten clocked at school already. And I told you about this where just a girl came up to her and said, oh my God, are you little moms? Just based off the little descriptors that I've given her, like, if so she looks like me and da da da. She thinks it's because I went to the back to school night. So mind you, I got barred from going to. And I was like, oh, my God, is this how Beyonce feels like? That's how I'm like, does blue do this to Beyonce? I got barred from going to this little Sabrina and Shantae way this little thing during lunch because, yeah, I think that she. She also definitely kind of peeped what's going on, and she wants to have her own identity and I definitely respect it. But, yeah, I said, oh, my God, I can't come. She's like, no, then everyone will know. And I was like. I said, well, you know, I do have to come to, like, the end of the school. She's like, no, no, no. Like, this shit at nighttime. Well, she didn't say shit. She doesn't curse the thing. She was like, no, like, parents stuff, like, obviously. But, like, at lunch, it's like a lunchtime event in front of all the kids. Like, they'll all know. I'm like, you're kind of right.
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Jameela
Yeah.
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Mecca
My feelings are so hurt.
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Jameela
But I understand.
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Mecca
But I do understand, like, it's no. It's no shade. It's no. It's no hard feelings. So, yeah, like, I am definitely so excited for the upcoming year. I think this last three months has been such a rollercoaster between music fest, the blow, like, whatever blew up on TikTok.
- [22:23]
Jameela
We're gonna take a break.
- [22:29]
Mecca
And we're back.
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Jameela
Honestly, I feel like this year is such a just great metaphor for how life goes. Like, honestly, this year was like a crash course on life, actually. Like, you were going to experience loss, you were going to experience great L's, you were going to experience some amazing W's, you are going to experience growth. You're going to experience so many different things. And you have to, like, keep going because there's still tomorrow. And that's the day they got crazy. The day got the end.
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Mecca
It has to end.
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Jameela
It's insane. And knowing that, like, I. I'm going through all of these things while also being a mother is like, yeah. So insane. Because, you know, of course going through grief is. Oh, man.
- [23:15]
Mecca
That's what I was saying when my dad was missing. But still having to go pick her up from school. And, like, I can't. I'm literally stressed the fuck out. I want to cry. Like, I remember during that point in time, I was taking great solace in palettes, really, when I was getting deep into Pilates, because being at Pilates and being at SoulCycle was so kind of hard that for at least that 45 minutes, all I could focus on was not dying, like, in terms of, like, the high intensity workouts. And it, like, was literally getting my mind off of being so worried about my dad. Yeah. Like, the way that that was going was like. And I just remember one time during this whole thing, because I would, like. I said I was making very great efforts not to, like, break down in front of little moms. Like, to be. Just be like, okay, let's be normal. She said something. She did the craziest shit, bro. She, like, bit into a piece of, like, top ramen. Like a hamburger.
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Jameela
Like, raw.
- [24:12]
Mecca
Like the crunchy ones raw. Yes, she bit into it. Like, she put the stuff on it and then she bit into it like a hamburger. And it was like, pause all the shit. I'm sitting there trying to, like, hold.
- [24:25]
Jameela
My shit together, like, and I'm literally crunching on ramen.
- [24:29]
Mecca
Kids are fucking weird.
- [24:30]
Jameela
Nah, kids are crazy.
- [24:32]
Mecca
And then I moved houses. Mind you, I didn't want to move houses. Even the house situation was like a God is trying to push me into a bigger and better space, and I am resisting because I definitely felt like in. At the top of the year, I. I'd be having little premonitions. And they. I always, like, they becoming true, even when I don't want them to. Because I hate moving. I literally hate. Like, moving is so irritating for me.
- [24:55]
Jameela
It's. I. It's the vein of my existence.
- [24:57]
Mecca
And I've moved so many times that it's like, I'm not moving again. But I was in a house. It was a smaller house. It was in, like, Shout Out Sunnyside, Hiram Clark. And he said it was in the hood. I was in the quiet part of the hood. Like, my cul de sac was all old people, so it wasn't no bullshit going on over there. I didn't want to move, but the electricity wasn't working. And I just remember I was like, I'm going to have to move. And I was like, oh, my God, I don't want to.
- [25:21]
Jameela
Please.
- [25:22]
Mecca
And then it got to the point where my refrigerator started giving out. And, like, I went through two different times where I lost all the food in my refrigerator. And that'll piss you off.
- [25:30]
Jameela
So.
- [25:31]
Mecca
Ooh, you get pissed off.
- [25:32]
Jameela
Auntie.
- [25:32]
Mecca
I'm an auntie.
- [25:33]
Jameela
I keep all that good meat.
- [25:34]
Mecca
Walked with me. That was my last. I said the second time it happened, I said, oh, I gotta get the fuck up out of here. And so it just worked out really well with this house. It was available. It's, you know, it's Elantra's fiance's house. And they were about to, you know, put it up anyway, and it's like that house, like, the electricity literally need to be rewired. And it was just like, this is not worth the cost. Like, I have to get the fuck up out of here. And so it was just. It's a bigger space. I'm not paying. I'm paying the same amount. Like it's all the things that I needed at that point in time. And I'm just looking like again, watching how God is setting you up. I. I was like, I don't even. I wouldn't have enough space to do everything I'm doing right now at the. At the old place. And so that happened in like, that was like in July, at the end of. No, September, when I was like. I finally was. I have to move. I was here on October 1st. Like, I was like within a two months that I got the fuck. It's crazy.
- [26:34]
Jameela
And what's crazy is like when bad things happen, unfortunately to me, they happen in tandem. It's like it's always more than one bad thing happens.
- [26:43]
Mecca
Yes. Because my car broke down on the fucking tollway. Right? Like, no, I moved on October 1st and then like on October 13th, my tall. My car broke down on fucking Sam Houston. Like, bitch little moms is in the car. Like, I had to pull, but they had. It was so scary.
- [26:57]
Jameela
It's like if your car slows down.
- [26:59]
Mecca
And literally finna stop on the highway. That is such a. That is a mind fuck mind you. Unfortunately, I have literally been in that situation before. So I knew to like. The moment I felt it de accelerating, I knew, okay, you gotta start getting over this bitch. Gonna turn the off. Like, I did not play them games. I said, oh, baby, I got to stop because I didn't want to have the but. And she was in the car. So it was like, yeah, we. And then I had to buy a new car as soon as I got back from my music festival.
- [27:22]
Jameela
It's literally like, bro, it was so much.
- [27:24]
Mecca
Why do I have to be dealing.
- [27:25]
Jameela
With everything at once? Please.
- [27:27]
Mecca
I said, I need a pr. Please. I want to deplete my savings train during the month of October. That was so hard. That was hard job.
- [27:36]
Jameela
What's also kind of sometimes really difficult is like when good things are happening, but also bad things are happening and you don't really know how to celebrate the wins because you're dealing with this like extreme, you know, heaviness. Because it's like, that's where I'm at right now.
- [27:53]
Mecca
It is hard. It's very hard. I will say that. I think for me. So fun fact. My dad used to. My dad's always done stand up, right? And he. He started. He personally knew Robin Williams and so and they were cool. Back in the day, like, if Robin guy, before Morgan, Mindy, Mark Robin was in San Francisco. And so my dad has always had, like, this thing where he wants to be like. Like a famous comedian. And I think that which very fast. Which tracks. He could have did it. He's done so much. But I think especially with getting the recognition, you know, from the family, he. You know, he's not totally gone, so he still hears and he'll ask little questions, and he'll. He just says stuff. He's like, you have fans. People ask you for pictures. And it's like you can see him realizing that it. Like the dreams that he had for himself are coming. Coming true through me. And the thing about it is he forgets, you know, so it's like we're in this constant loop of this, and it's like, I think I try and look at, like, the pluses of it and. And. And say, okay, cool. Like, so every time as I become bigger, as I. As I grow, you'll be just as shocked each time so that I'll have that. But I really, really wish that, like, no, you just remember. I just think watching our people age and get older is hard. Life is a cycle, and it unfortunately does have to end at some point. It's very, very hard. But enough of that child girl anyway.
- [29:51]
Jameela
Because, you know, you. You can drop a few tears.
- [29:53]
Mecca
You drop a few tears for the girls, but hold on, you know, I figured that was gonna happen.
- [29:58]
Jameela
Wendy Williams says, always dab your tears.
- [30:01]
Mecca
Into your have to dab.
- [30:02]
Jameela
You have to have a little.
- [30:04]
Mecca
You have to hold up. Yes, ma'am. But Shout out to Grandma Dorothy.
- [30:11]
Jameela
Love her to. Shout out to my twin.
- [30:14]
Mecca
Yes, yes. Shout out to the girlies who look exactly like their grandmothers. That's so fun. Okay, well, my eyes look a little red. You know what? Not to sound like this. I've always liked the look of, like, someone's eyes being slightly red after a fresh cry.
- [30:31]
Jameela
No, a fresh cry.
- [30:33]
Mecca
It is a little bit. It's a little bit sexy.
- [30:35]
Jameela
Like it's after a fresh cry. It's just a little plump, and it's like.
- [30:38]
Mecca
I don't know, it's a little bit of a look. It's like. Like what was just happening just now?
- [30:42]
Jameela
What were you going through? It's. It gives mysterious, actually, the little wet eyelashes.
- [30:49]
Mecca
Yes, I'm fine. It's just nothing. It's.
- [30:52]
Jameela
Nothing happened. I'm fine.
- [30:54]
Mecca
Don't worry about me. Ask me everything that's wrong with me. I'm just gonna keep asking me and I'm gonna act like nothing's going on as one.
- [31:02]
Jameela
As it just builds up in the corner.
- [31:04]
Mecca
As it builds up. I'm sorry. That's how, you know it's just drama over here. Because why the Would and mind you? I used to do like that when I was in school. Once I learned how to make myself. When I learned how to make myself cry, it was over for you. I could do like, I would go in the bathroom, make myself.
- [31:26]
Jameela
I would just stare at the mirror.
- [31:27]
Mecca
Just like a psychopath, like, and literally go out to recess and people be like, my eyes are just red and puffy. Oh, my God. What's wrong? Nothing. Let's play wall ball. Let's play the tetherball. They're like Mecca. What's wrong? Nothing. I just love telling them. Nothing.
- [31:48]
Jameela
Nothing. It's just a lot.
- [31:49]
Mecca
So, like, what do you want to say? What are your. This is so insane.
- [31:54]
Jameela
That Case you can't tell. Fuck. This is how we deal with. This is how we deal with trauma. Trauma.
- [32:03]
Mecca
Let's make ourselves cry and make questions. What are your aspirations and where do you want to. What do you, like, what are your goals for the new year? What do you want to achieve in 2025?
- [32:12]
Jameela
2025.
- [32:13]
Mecca
That's crazy. I remember 2015.
- [32:15]
Jameela
Hello.
- [32:16]
Mecca
Like, it's too much going on.
- [32:18]
Jameela
Like, what a mind fuck. Crazy enough. You know, 2024 is our 10 year anniversary of graduating from high school, so absolutely. That's already been like a. A mind fuck for me. We were supposed to have our female, but yo, it's like, what we crazy.
- [32:33]
Mecca
I ain't gonna lie. Some of y'all. And some of y'all look really good, but some of y'all look really bad.
- [32:38]
Jameela
Like, no, no, no. We have to have a conversation about post grad druggies. What the happened? No, it's actually kind of scary. Like, people that you. I'm like, hey, I. I didn't even know.
- [32:56]
Mecca
You didn't even.
- [32:57]
Jameela
Dude, I got. It's a mind Fuck. But anyways, 2025, the boys, the hairlines are leaving them.
- [33:04]
Mecca
The lean guts are setting in the circles under the eyes from sleepless nights. Cause you were hopped up on that shit.
- [33:11]
Jameela
Yeah, child, you look.
- [33:15]
Mecca
What Drake say you look drained. She looked exhausted. Them late nights ain't good for you. They really starting to show on you. That's why I go to sleep. Y'all laugh at me about going to sleep, but, like, working in aesthetics, really a lot of. A lot of aging and certain Things that go on with our face, you can't prevent it. We're going to age, you know, like, we're going to age. But taking care of yourself really does make all the difference. Having heavy, like, bags are hereditary, and I have hereditary back, like, dark under eye circles in my family, so. But it can only be exacerbated by not getting enough sleep. That's why when I'm tired, I go to sleep. I don't want them to be set in faster than they have to be. Like, go to sleep, take a nap. And I can always tell when I'm tired and haven't got enough sleep. My bags be hitting. They be bag lady. Word to Erica Badu. Chad.
- [34:04]
Jameela
I stay with a bag. Maybe one of these days I'll, you know, figure out what aesthetic procedure I can get to. But I don't want to overdo filler. I don't want to do.
- [34:14]
Mecca
No, no, no. I wouldn't say filler. What we've been looking into prp.
- [34:17]
Jameela
Oh, put the blood.
- [34:19]
Mecca
But your own blood cycling back into it has kind of the same effect, but it's a bit more natural.
- [34:23]
Jameela
Yeah. Because I've seen all the filler migration. I don't think I need my face already big enough. I don't need nothing plumped in my damn face. This is a big face. Yeah. I got a big bubble. Some on Twitter was like, oh, shut your big face ass up. You know you ate with that. It is big. But no, I won't say that.
- [34:39]
Mecca
No, no, no. Can we discuss the. I don't even know what the hell you said. You said somebody wear the same wig all the time. I don't know who you was talking.
- [34:45]
Jameela
About, but they said, oh, Janae, mind you, I didn't even who that was. It was implied, but I didn't say that. So the fact that everybody knew what I was talking about. I'm like, so you agree?
- [34:56]
Mecca
No, but your tweet wasn't the first tweet that I saw of them saying, she loves this wig or whatever. It was something about Janae from Love island and a Dominican boy.
- [35:05]
Jameela
Yeah. So she clearly loves a middle part bust down, which, I mean, who doesn't? I said, I would love to see my sister in a new look. And that caused quite a stir.
- [35:15]
Mecca
And I'm like, it was because you already on you. They was already in the house. They were like, see, I told you.
- [35:21]
Jameela
Big face, bully ass bitch. And I'm like, oh, my God.
- [35:24]
Mecca
They in the comments, like. And that's why Mecca looked the Same every day of her life.
- [35:28]
Jameela
I said, nah, wait, hold on. They said, you should tell your castmate.
- [35:34]
Mecca
There'S not much I can do. I only have a teaspoon of hair.
- [35:36]
Jameela
And I'm like, mind you, she just went bald headed. She did. This is new. This is a new look.
- [35:41]
Mecca
But I feel like, you know what, what I will say about going bald. It's like I found my signature look.
- [35:47]
Jameela
I agree. Soon as I seen that bald head, I said, you know, now this is tea. I said this, actually.
- [35:52]
Mecca
For so many years.
- [35:54]
Jameela
Why did we never think about going.
- [35:55]
Mecca
Bald for so many years and shout out to Jazz. Because I know jazz used to hate it. The big Dominican curly wig was my second favorite wig. She. And mind you, I have bought that wig 27 times. I had so many.
- [36:07]
Jameela
I know.
- [36:08]
Mecca
I love that big curly wig.
- [36:10]
Jameela
Here go Jessica Mega. Got that wig on again. That big ass wig.
- [36:15]
Mecca
I just love the little Diana Ross moment. Little Dominican moment. Okay, I love that wig. But I thought that was my signature look. And I literally felt like the moment I cut my hair, especially once I had dyed it, I said, oh, I have. I have done something new. What? And you know, it was like a slow progression. I cut my hair and then I was like, this is so freeing. I love being bald. This so fun. And I said, let's try the dye. And I dyed it. And then when I dyed my eyebrows.
- [36:42]
Jameela
I said, oh, and now we get it.
- [36:46]
Mecca
We're here. So I have unlocked my signature look. And that. That's also happened this year. That was really fun. That was exciting. So I. I literally don't see myself ever. I. I'm definitely gonna put on a wig. I think I'm gonna wear a wig for New Year's, but I also go.
- [36:59]
Jameela
Back into that bag.
- [37:00]
Mecca
I was gonna do like New Year's. We're trying to go to Seaside.
- [37:05]
Jameela
Plans.
- [37:06]
Mecca
We're trying to go to Seaside that isn't set in stone. Frankie. Frankie Blue on Tick Tock is hosting at Seaside.
- [37:15]
Jameela
I know. He always got something to do, you.
- [37:16]
Mecca
Know, Frankie outside his hell all the damn time, literally.
- [37:19]
Jameela
So he live outside.
- [37:21]
Mecca
I'd be like, frank, you too. You too rich for my blood, Chad, I can't. I can't. He said he rich. His company is called Rich something. I can't think of the name right now. But he does make clothes and he's a stylist. But Seaside, that's not set in stone. But we will be outside. Darrington is coming back out here. You know, he's thirsty for Houston. My Homegirl Alyn, who is a singer. Shout out to Lynn. If you've heard music, very talent, you should come to Houston. A lot of people were. We're trying to do it. Come big. You know, I just had my Christmas party, which is becoming an annual thing, which is really fun.
- [37:52]
Jameela
You know, I got flight benefits.
- [37:54]
Mecca
Oh, yes. You do have flight benefits. Yes. Used, though. And we're gonna do a pregame here, so I'm really, really excited. Darrington is, like, I said, he wants to move back to Houston at some point next year, maybe the end of this time next year, going into 2026. So he's getting himself ready for that. He was talking about Joe also on TikTok. Joe lives in a loft downtown, and Darrington wants to live in a loft. So I know when he comes out here, he wants to go to Joe's house and kind of see, like, what's going on so he can know what to prepare for. He was. Cause he saw Joe's house on FaceTime and was like, that's exactly what happened.
- [38:28]
Jameela
Boys love loss. I don't know what it was, but boys love them. Concrete walls and.
- [38:32]
Mecca
Yes. No, that's so crazy. That's literally what Darren was like. I love the pipes and.
- [38:37]
Jameela
And the pipes and bricks and concrete.
- [38:39]
Mecca
This was like, oh, it's real manly. Yeah, I love that. I said, okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Do you?
- [38:49]
Jameela
Yeah.
- [38:49]
Mecca
So that's really exciting. I think that also a lot of preparation is going. We're preparing for next year.
- [38:56]
Jameela
We're gonna take a break.
- [39:01]
Mecca
And we're back.
- [39:02]
Jameela
Shall we announce something that's not really set in stone? Like, let's just do it. Let's. Let's rip the band aid off.
- [39:10]
Mecca
I don't even know what we're announcing. Let's go.
- [39:11]
Jameela
Okay. We don't have a date yet. Well, maybe we will by this time.
- [39:14]
Mecca
I don't know.
- [39:15]
Jameela
Things move fast, but. Yes, but I'll say exactly what we're planning, because that's just. We live in a very. We're going to do this. We just don't know all the details yet, but it's in the works. Me and Mecca will be having our first live show in Atlanta at the top of the year. We'll say Q1. We won't say all.
- [39:35]
Mecca
We won't say. We will say quarter one. We don't know quarter one. But it's definitely. It's been in talks for about a month or two since the podcast started. We have been planning for this. Yeah. Honestly, we were. I want to Say this before the events. This is being filmed early, so we're. I wanna make the date.
- [39:53]
Jameela
It is currently December 16th.
- [39:55]
Mecca
It's December 16th. Before the events of this prior week, Jameela and I were steadily growing. We were having things sent to us with certain numbers on them that reflected the growth based on me and Jameela. But after this week, I, and what I'm. What I wanna say is this is something that was being planned before that. Yes, this is. People were coming to us to plan this live show, possibly live tour before this. Before that.
- [40:20]
Jameela
I was gonna say we had this thought before a first episode dropped.
- [40:24]
Mecca
I was gonna say so that we've always been in the works and making it happen. We've made some really cool connections. But now I definitely. It's like, oh, yeah, this is absolutely going to happen. I'm sorry, Mona, AKA don't call me white girl, hopped into our live. We said it on the last episode. We're gonna say it again. And and was knew who we were and was like, y'all funny. I said, oh, actually, y'all can't.
- [40:43]
Jameela
Girl, I love you. What do you mean? Hello.
- [40:47]
Mecca
What do you mean you just hopped into the live and know who we are, casually, mind you, it's only like 100 and some people on the live and Mona.
- [40:53]
Jameela
Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
- [40:55]
Mecca
I love it here.
- [40:57]
Jameela
And you know, I hope to always feel that way when people reach out. Like, I know at some point, you know, being a celebrity, you start to be around a lot of celebrities and you start to, it starts to become, I guess, normal to you. I hope it never becomes normal to me. Like, I am so any time I become mutuals with a big creator, I'm like, I. Every single time. Yeah, it's like, whoa. Like, oh, this is so cool. I think it's literally so fudgeing cool that you with your big platform and you with your own thing going on, you decided to follow me. Like, you think I'm cool. I think you're cool. Like, I, I am so humbled by that. Like, I will always be humbled in the fact that, like, y'all see me because I honestly, I have this weird thing in my head. It's so stupid, but it just, it's just me. I always feel like the interactions I have with people mean more to me than it means to them.
- [41:50]
Mecca
I.
- [41:50]
Jameela
And it's not good, but it's like, that's just my, I don't know. I think that's my anxiety talking. So I, I, I be wanting to like, oh, My gosh. Like, remember we had this conversation, like, so long ago. Like, it really means a lot to me, and I feel like they'll be like, I don't remember you. So for me, I. I try to, like, not do too much because I don't want people to ever feel, like, overwhelmed. It's like, no. Like, I think you're really super fucking cool. And, like, I'm actually entirely so gagged. So having other creators be gagged, and I'm following them, I'm like, bitch, yo, I'm gagged for you. Yeah, we gagging each other. We see each other.
- [42:22]
Mecca
So I think that I kind of. Yeah, I agree. I don't ever want it to get old, because I feel like the moment it gets old, it's kind of like. I'm not saying you're less humble, but it's like, we're definitely still gagged when people ask us for pictures. We're definitely still gagged when people recognize us or want to speak to us off the strength of seeing us on socials. Because we do.
- [42:43]
Jameela
We.
- [42:43]
Mecca
We are regular people still. We are. I hope to always be, like, a regular person. Like, just kind of be able to move through the world and exist. I think the really cool part about, like, making Houston home, if you can, like, find a city and you live in Atlanta, so a lot of people in Atlanta as well.
- [43:01]
Jameela
Yeah.
- [43:02]
Mecca
Like, people clock you, but it's like, oh, yeah, Mecca. She'd be outside. Like, you probably will see her again at the store. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love that vibe. I love that. I love being in Houston and being like. Because, you know, like, Yolanda. What was I saying? Yolanda Sanders. Yolanda Adams.
- [43:17]
Jameela
I'm sorry.
- [43:17]
Mecca
I don't know why I was called a lazy line. Yolanda Adams lives in Houston, Right. And she, you know, she from out here. You can see her at the grocery store. There's a couple different people out here in Houston.
- [43:28]
Jameela
Got the victory. That's the first thing that will come to mind if I see her. Hey, nah.
- [43:33]
Mecca
And it's just like, you just. You look up and you're like, okay, yeah, yeah. The local, local, local. I love that. I love being, like, a local person who'll be outside.
- [43:41]
Jameela
Yeah, it's fun. So what else do you have planned for the new year? Like, where do you. What are we seeing for the new year?
- [43:49]
Mecca
For what am I going to speak into existence? So, obviously, we've talked about. We talked about the. Well, we're for sure going to do the live Show. But speaking to Existence, the live tour.
- [44:00]
Jameela
Ooh.
- [44:02]
Mecca
That Jamila and I have conceptualized. I have a vision of us doing like a Chitlin Circuit type situation. Very much inspired. I want to do like old school posters. Just like we have a great appreciation for black American culture.
- [44:15]
Jameela
I was gonna say we love. If you cannot tell from all of these videos. We love being black, number one. We also love being old head blacks.
- [44:26]
Mecca
Yeah, it's a very.
- [44:27]
Jameela
We appreciate old curated black ass shit. Like, that's just so us.
- [44:33]
Mecca
Like. Yeah. And I also like so so that I want to speak that into Existence. We can just go ahead and say everything what we had talked about. We want to kind of do it throughout probably the second half of the year. Possibly end at a panel at Hampton's homecoming. This next homecoming, we'll definitely be there, but we won't know if we'll be on panel. That's one thing that we're really gearing up for. I'm getting back into YouTube. We're both getting back into YouTube. So we're doing the YouTube for our podcast, but also separately, which should be a lot of fun. I just hired a personal assistant, which is my friend Eddie. We've been friends for a couple years and so that's super exciting. My business, FEMI Aesthetics, we just remodeled. So and Eddie's gonna help us do like all. He's very aesthetically like inclined. So also gonna help us with that. Getting the branding of the business in order. We've added a whole. But we have a RN working there now. We have a lot of going on with like, on the spa side of things outside of social media. I know people think like, we don't have jobs, but, like, it's a lot going on over there.
- [45:40]
Jameela
It's not just me.
- [45:41]
Mecca
Shout out Ashley. She's holding it down. Something else I see for Jamila and I as a team. Award show season. I see us at award show in 2020.
- [45:51]
Jameela
You know, that was what I was gonna say. Award season.
- [45:55]
Mecca
I mean, a shout out to our publicist, Belize and manager Taylor. Like, these are things that have already kind of been like, well, this is what everyone's goal for you guys. So that's exciting.
- [46:05]
Jameela
Yeah. What's crazy is like, I've always just have always wanted to go to the BET Awards. I've. I've always been obsessed.
- [46:13]
Mecca
That's how, you know, it's very hard, er, business. Because when I think of things that I want to do, that's been on my bucket list. I'm not even talking about the award show. Y'all think I'm talking like BET Soul Trainer. Like, that's the shit I want to go do. Yeah, Black girls rock.
- [46:26]
Jameela
Like, it's funny because every, every year, you know, whenever the BET Awards rolls around, I, I look at the tweets and I, and I watch people try to downplay the BET Awards and I'm like, I've grown up. I've seen every single one because I was there from the inception of BET Awards. Imagine that aging ourselves again. And I remember, we remember when Beyonce.
- [46:48]
Mecca
Used to go to the BET Awards.
- [46:49]
Jameela
Okay. With that, that top booty meet out.
- [46:51]
Mecca
When Beyonce used to actually show up and perform.
- [46:53]
Jameela
Hello. Like, I remember the BET Awards being a thing and this. And to me, the BET Awards are not necessarily bad now. I just think that they need to be updated and adjusting with the time. And I want to put another goal out there. This is not a goal for next year. I know this is not going to happen next year and that's okay. This is a long term goal. But I do want to put it out there. I would absolutely love to be a producer on the BET Awards. Like, that's a good. So many things for it and I love it. Like, I, as much as Jamila is.
- [47:21]
Mecca
An on screen person, Jamila is very inclined off screen, like producing, directing. So I can see you in the long term because what I, what my goal is for. Unhinged, immoral. I, I always like take it back to the read. But it's because I've been listening to Crystalline Fury since I was in high school. Like, that was the first podcast I tuned into and was like, I think myself growing. And then they're growing and they're getting older and I'm getting older and like we're the age that they were when they started and like remembering things that they said throughout the year, it's like, oh yeah, that applies right now. Like I see it. And then like listening to them talk now and being like, and in 10 years, like, that's gonna the same thing. It's gonna apply. I see us like being more like a re type. Like this is, this is maintainable for both of us. Like, we're just at home. We do this on Mondays. It's very doable. But then the thing like our aspirations and goals outside of this, we're able to dibble and dabble in and achieve. So I absolutely can see you being a producer on the BET Awards. I think that's 1,000% in your future. I want to do like, I Wouldn't say, like possibly like a talk show, possibly.
- [48:23]
Jameela
Like, I could see that.
- [48:24]
Mecca
I see it for myself. I do.
- [48:26]
Jameela
Getting a Wendy Williams big. How you doing?
- [48:30]
Mecca
Wendy was hated too. That's why, you know, Wendy Williams, Wendy Williams Tea. I. I want to. I definitely want to dibble and dabble on screen though. Like, we were talking about it last week on the episode and I was like, no, that would. Especially watching Beauty in Black. I would love to do like a. To be Tyler Perry esque, at least. Entrance into the world. Like, yeah, like, I don't mind doing mainstream shit, but I also am really okay with being black famous. Like, I'm not.
- [49:00]
Jameela
I think we need to put forth effort into black media. I'm. I am. I'm a black ass person. Like, just naturally. Like, I enjoy black media even if it's not mainstream. I enjoy pieces of art that is very obviously centered around the black gaze. And G, A, Z, E, black gaze.
- [49:22]
Mecca
But the black gaze, we love y'all as well.
- [49:24]
Jameela
But I enjoy mediums like that because that is the type of art that I have always ingested. Like, I revere black art as highbrow. I put it up there for me. And I remember in one time in one of my film classes, we're all like, the teacher was like, oh, you know, what's your favorite film? And of course, this is the time for all the white people. So pretentious. Cage.
- [49:48]
Mecca
And I watched this again and I was like, okay, okay.
- [49:52]
Jameela
Like, you know, they're trying to be very. Maybe just be this cool. Good Fellas. Like, shut up. Like, yeah, good fellas.
- [50:00]
Mecca
Good fellas is a good movie. What is good good?
- [50:03]
Jameela
It's a good movie.
- [50:04]
Mecca
It's a good movie.
- [50:04]
Jameela
But it's like they were all saying the things that they thought the teacher wanted to hear because these are the things that are revered as the most prestigious films in the film world. Right. And so of course, when it comes from my black ass. Time to speak. Set it off, directed by F. Gary Gray. Am I right? F. Crickets. Who? Oh, okay. To me, that film is everything and I love that film so much. Like that.
- [50:29]
Mecca
You love Set It Off.
- [50:30]
Jameela
That is one of my absolute favorite films of all.
- [50:32]
Mecca
Set it off is a bit too trauma ridden for me and maybe that's.
- [50:36]
Jameela
Why I love it. I love a traumatizing movie.
- [50:39]
Mecca
For a long time. My favorite movie was Poetic justice and that is also a trauma ridden movie. Well, yes, it is very trauma ridden, but I really liked it. I really liked it. As of right now, another movie. Well, this is a Caucasian classic. I love the Princess Bride.
- [50:56]
Jameela
Okay.
- [50:56]
Mecca
You know, it's a good movie.
- [50:57]
Jameela
Never heard of it or seen it.
- [50:59]
Mecca
You've never seen the Princess Bride? Jameela, you have to watch, like. No. I'm so dead the fuck right now.
- [51:04]
Jameela
Is it a comedy?
- [51:06]
Mecca
Yes.
- [51:06]
Jameela
Okay. I love this.
- [51:07]
Mecca
It's a comedy. It's from the 80s. I don't know how to explain the Princess Bride. Honestly, you just have to watch it. Well, it's about this guy, like, his. He's his grandpa telling him a story. It's a fairy tale. So imagine, like, it starts out with Fred Savage. I believe it's one of the 80s kids.
- [51:25]
Jameela
You said this is a movie from the 80s?
- [51:26]
Mecca
Yes.
- [51:27]
Jameela
Okay.
- [51:28]
Mecca
It's you, Jimmy. I'm so serious. You have to watch it, okay? You really have to watch Princess Bride. Have you seen Wicked? Did you go see it?
- [51:35]
Jameela
Not yet.
- [51:35]
Mecca
Okay, never mind. I can't talk about it. You have to go see Princess Bride. It's on. I think it's on hbo. Hbo? Max.
- [51:43]
Jameela
I'll invest in it. Remind me.
- [51:45]
Mecca
I will, but it's a very good movie. The dude who plays. I can't think of his name. Buttercups. Boo. He was really fine back in the day. I don't know how he looks now, but he was fine back in the day. Some good milk. We're gonna take a break. Amber Beck, what's your favorite 80s classic? And it can be from. Oh, and just before I let. Before I let you speak, another one of my favorite favorite movies, Harlem Nights. I love that movie so bad. Thank you.
- [52:16]
Jameela
Classic, classic, black classic. Shoot your pinky toe off my favorite 80s.
- [52:21]
Mecca
Ooh.
- [52:22]
Jameela
80S, 80s. Let me think back in the Rolodex of 80s films.
- [52:28]
Mecca
It can be black or white. Honestly, it doesn't have to just be black. I know you're probably gonna say something black, but more than likely I feel like that the white people gave us a lot in the 80s, though.
- [52:37]
Jameela
When did Coming to America come out?
- [52:38]
Mecca
In the 80s?
- [52:39]
Jameela
In the 80s, I think coming to America, that's classic. Like Come to America is very funny. Hated the. The. The new one, though.
- [52:46]
Mecca
Sorry you didn't like it. I absolutely underrated Eddie Murphy classic Boomerang. It don't get enough love for me. Eartha Kitty Murphy, Boomerang. Robin Givens, Halle Berry, star studded like a stacked cast. Like Boomerang. When people talk about Eddie Murphy movies, and they never meant they mentioned Boomerang, people who were around when it came out mentioned Boomerang. You know what I'm saying people around.
- [53:10]
Jameela
A lot of people haven't really seen.
- [53:12]
Mecca
Don'T know about Boomerangs by the old blacks. So we know about Boomerang. Robin Givens blowout. Her hair in that movie was amazing. She was delicious. I love the 90s. Thick blowout. You know, back. We didn't mind the texture of our hair. We just trying to blow it out a little bit. It didn't have to be bone straight. You. Well, you like that texture. I love. I love a textured blowout. I'm sorry. I think it's so beautiful. I think it's beautiful. Another 80s classic. I was really into the Brat Pack, which is like the white people from the 80s. You know, Emilio Estevez, Molly Ringwald, Judd Nelson, Demi Moore was in there. Have you seen St. Emilio's Fire?
- [53:53]
Jameela
No.
- [53:54]
Mecca
Okay, I'm getting too Caucasian free.
- [53:57]
Jameela
Like, I'm gonna be honest.
- [54:00]
Mecca
The actual Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles.
- [54:02]
Jameela
My sister was my sister. I don't know if y'all know this, but my sister Jazz had a very strict white face for a very long time. She was a little Caucasian girl where she only ingested white media. So that's where all of my white media comes from, is when my sister was white. She's back black, though. She's black again.
- [54:17]
Mecca
Also, Teen Witch. Do you. Have you ever seen Teen Witch? Jamila Teen. Which is so good. Fun fact. Robin Lively, who plays Teen Witch, is actually Blake Lively's older sister. And she's also married to Coach Bolton, Troy Bolton's dad from High School Musical.
- [54:35]
Jameela
Okay, I'm black as hell. I really enjoy. No, there's some white movies I like. No, there's some white movies I like. Like Forrest Gump is one of the best movies ever, period.
- [54:47]
Mecca
I know about Forrest Gump. It's not one. It's not my Tom Hanks favorite. Big is better than Forrest Gump.
- [54:52]
Jameela
Forrest Gump is so good.
- [54:54]
Mecca
Sleepless in Seattle is better than Forrest Comp.
- [54:57]
Jameela
Still never seen Sleepless.
- [54:59]
Mecca
That's crazy.
- [55:00]
Jameela
I know. Sorry.
- [55:01]
Mecca
That's a Caucasian classic. Harry Met Sally. When Harry Met Sally. Have you seen that?
- [55:05]
Jameela
No.
- [55:06]
Mecca
Okay. Yeah. Very black. Very black.
- [55:10]
Jameela
I promise. I've seen every Negro film at this point.
- [55:14]
Mecca
I want to go down my Caucasian Rolodex and just see. Have you seen it? Have you seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
- [55:19]
Jameela
No, but I've heard of Bueller. Okay. I've heard, like, I can catch some of the references.
- [55:24]
Mecca
Matthew Broderick, Sarah Jessica Parker's husband in real life. No, I think Matthew Broderick and Sarah Jessica Parker are the Caucasian equivalent to Angela Bassett in Sydney. Vance.
- [55:36]
Jameela
They've been together.
- [55:38]
Mecca
Yes. It's like they got together around the same time. They're all around the same age range.
- [55:42]
Jameela
Interesting.
- [55:42]
Mecca
I believe they both couples have twins, if I'm not mistaken. I just really feel like they are each other's counterparts. Okay.
- [55:48]
Jameela
Period.
- [55:48]
Mecca
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [55:50]
Jameela
Waiting to exhale. Isn't that. Wasn't that in the 80s?
- [55:52]
Mecca
That's the 90s.
- [55:53]
Jameela
Oh, 90s.
- [55:53]
Mecca
Okay.
- [55:56]
Jameela
That.
- [55:56]
Mecca
Rest in peace, Gregory Hines. Can I tell you something crazy? When I was a kid, Gregory Hines was one of my first crutches. It was written that I was gonna like old men. Cause I remember watching Waiting the Exile for the first time and thinking like, I was like 8. And I thought he was so fine. I did.
- [56:18]
Jameela
Like, silence from everyone.
- [56:21]
Mecca
Wait, Gregory Holt. And on that, May he rest in peace.
- [56:24]
Jameela
I said, that's all I'm gonna say about that baby. May he rest in peace. I hope he's not watching me walk away.
- [56:29]
Mecca
I would've let him watch me walk away, child.
- [56:31]
Jameela
He could've watched me do a whole bunch of shit.
- [56:33]
Mecca
I can't believe y'all don't think Gregory Hines is fine. Anyway, let's get into.
- [56:37]
Jameela
I mean, he wasn't ugly, but, you know, he ain't mine.
- [56:39]
Mecca
Tap dance. And he danced, you know. He sure did another shit.
- [56:42]
Jameela
He sure did.
- [56:43]
Mecca
He.
- [56:43]
Jameela
No, he's a legend, you know, Was a legend. But, I mean, you know, that's all I'll say about that.
- [56:49]
Mecca
Let's get into our segment. Spin it now. Don't forget, we are not PR professionals. We are simply girls who studied PR in college and love the. We love the hustle of the game. If you have any messy situations, exhilarating things that you need us to put a little PR spin on email at unhinged and immoral pod. Gmail.com Jamila what do we have this week?
- [57:14]
Jameela
Okay, here we go. Y'all are long winded, aren't you? Love you girls.
- [57:20]
Mecca
That's how it started.
- [57:21]
Jameela
No, that's. Oh, I'm saying this is long. I said you guys are long. Okay, Dating life. Help. Okay, so I really hope y'all answered this one. I really haven't shared this with anyone, but y'all feel like homegirls in my head. So in May, I broke up with my ex because his energy was very dry. Two weeks following the breakup, we got back together. Everything was going smoothly. I'd actually say things were better than they had been in a long Time. So obviously we were in a honeymoon phase and had makeup sex. Well, one night after I took a shower, I walk up to him putting.
- [57:58]
Mecca
What she say?
- [58:02]
Jameela
Well, one night after I took a shower, I walk into him putting cream on his dick in the living room. I'm like, what the are you doing? He's like, he went to the doctor and he had an infection, ingrown, blah, blah, blah. He was tested and the doctor gave him cream for it. This made me suspicious and I asked, did you someone else? He said no. I just found it strange. He went to go get tested for something on his private area without saying anything to me. Fast forward a few days. The. The bump looks like herpes. Oh, my God, sister.
- [58:37]
Mecca
I told.
- [58:38]
Jameela
I told him to go to the doctor again. And guess what? It's HSV2. He confesses that in the two weeks we weren't together, he, his ex girlfriend, we break up. I got tested. It was negative. Waited a few months because I was nervous. September tested positive. Well, now December, I met someone and we went on our first date today. I didn't expect to like him so much. Now I'm so worried about if things progress further. I really want to move on. I know I have to tell him. Is it better to tell it soon? Should I wait a while? How should I approach this? I know it's a heavy topic, but y'all make me laugh. And I could use a laugh actor right now.
- [59:21]
Mecca
So first things first. I just want to say this. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to say this before we say anything else.
- [59:26]
Jameela
I know what you're gonna say. Go ahead.
- [59:28]
Mecca
Everybody has herpes.
- [59:30]
Jameela
Go ahead.
- [59:30]
Mecca
Well, okay. And this is from shout out to my. Shout out to my homegirl, Lori. She's a RN. She's a nurse of every. She's an RN. And during my 26th birthday, we were drunk, but she went on this drunken but very informative rant at my literal birthday party and told us, everyone has herpes, and by the time we all die. Like, if you don't have it now, baby, you will eventually get it. Now, obviously, HSP 1 and 2 are different. Oral herpes and genital herpes are very different. But if, like, you have oral sex and you have oral herpes, that is now going down. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like, it's a very easy transfer is what I'm trying to say. Part of the reason that they don't do specific testing anymore for herpes on, like, they don't want to freak everybody Out. Yeah, they don't want to people out basic STD panels, because it is. It is really not the end of the world. Like quite literally. She has told me about. She had a client on our client, a patient who literally unaligned themselves because they found out they had herpes. And she was. I remember she was saying how sad she was because it like everyone literally has herpes. Most people are asymptomatic, which is another reason that they don't test for it on basic STD panels, because they don't want to alarm you. It's. It's much like a virus, you know, I'm saying if it's inside of you, it's simply inside of you. But if you have cold sores, you do have herpes. And, you know, if you're getting it on your genitals, it's. It's, you know, same energy, not exactly the same thing, not the same strain, but very, very doable to live with. And I want. I want to handle this. Like, I want us to have humor, but I do want us to have a serious conversation.
- [60:57]
Jameela
Gotta get the disclaimer out there.
- [60:58]
Mecca
But the putting the disclaimer out about ending the stigma, I don't think it's something that should be as stigmatized as it is. I do absolutely believe that your ex, if you have any cousins, brothers who can go whoop his ass, you absolutely need to make that happen simply for the fact that he was dishonest with you and he. I was gonna say he was clean first and foremost.
- [61:15]
Jameela
He lied to you.
- [61:16]
Mecca
He lied to you.
- [61:17]
Jameela
He knew why he was putting that cream on that dick.
- [61:18]
Mecca
Yeah, that was absolutely out of pocket. And I hope that you never speak to him again, because that level of dishonesty, especially if you're having a flare up and still having sex, is just. It's just irresponsible. You know what I mean? Like, it's simply irresponsible. With that being said, now that you are in the same situation, I do think it is appropriate for you to make it. No, I think that you should. There is so much information on. On herpes and HSP1 and 2 that you can definitely have sex and have a very enjoyable sex life with someone who will enjoy it with you and not, you know, pass it, is what I'm trying to say. They have. There. There are so many options.
- [62:00]
Jameela
There's a lot of options.
- [62:01]
Mecca
What I think that you should do first is go to your doctor. There are so many options. It's really not the end of the world. Quite literally.
- [62:08]
Jameela
Yeah.
- [62:08]
Mecca
So I don't think you should treat it as if it's the end. Yeah.
- [62:11]
Jameela
I don't want you to feel like, oh, my gosh, what do I do? But I can understand, because that information that we just gave you, a lot of people don't really know that. Don't know that.
- [62:19]
Mecca
And they also don't want to hear either.
- [62:21]
Jameela
I was gonna say, even if they hear that, they're kind of like, I don't care.
- [62:22]
Mecca
Herpes.
- [62:23]
Jameela
Herpes. Herpes. Bumps.
- [62:24]
Mecca
Yeah, coochie bumps.
- [62:25]
Jameela
Like, it's like. Okay, so what I would say is to, like, get into that conversation with him is I would start the conversation off with, hey, when's the last time he was tested? Like, because that's a conversation you should be having. Anyway. Like, anyway, you know, so when's last time you get tested? And then you can. I think you should, you know, since you already got tested for herpes. I don't know if you got your full workup, but just go ahead and get your. Your whole. My chart updated. You know what I'm saying? Clear. Make sure that everything else is good, because at the end of the day, health is important too. We want to make sure you're healthy and make sure you're on the right treatment path. So before you even start discussing coochie and penis and, you know, getting. Getting familiar, make sure that you.
- [62:58]
Mecca
Your.
- [62:59]
Jameela
Your flare is gone and make sure that you are. Are healthy and safe. Right? So once we move past that, ask the boy if he got tested, because you don't know where his dick been either. Hello. So go ahead and get that information. Right. And then that just starts the conversation. Well, hey, you know, I. I do want to, you know, let you know that I do have, you know, HSV1, also known as genital herpes. However, I'm no longer. I'm currently not having a flare up. Give him the full stat and be like, you know, and. And I. I hate to say this, but this is real. You're gonna have to hear this. After you tell him everything that you tell him, he has the option to either accept and go forth or just to move on it, because that's not something he's come with, and you have to be okay with that, because everybody deserves the autonomy to choose whether or not this is something they want to involve themselves in. Yes, we can give you all the information you want. We can let him know that, hey, like, you're gonna be fine, but if he still doesn't want to, that's gonna have to. That's just. Is what it is. And you have to be. You can't convince everybody that this is something that you should be okay with, but it just is what it is. You can even allow him, like, hey, what. What do you need from me to feel comfortable for, you know, for us to move forward and just allow it to be an open conversation. But if he's not mature enough or just ready enough in that moment to accept that this is not something that will hurt him, if y'all take the proper precautions, then he's just not. And you're gonna have to find.
- [64:25]
Mecca
I think Jamila's right. That can be a hard pill to swallow. But something I think that you should do is possibly look into like a doctor. More like a nurse, though, simply because nurses are on the ground floor with it. And I'm not gonna say, like, they have a better knowledge on health scares. Unfortunately, the average Joe, when you start talking about herpes and HSV1 and 2, they're like, yeah, they're. A nurse would not be as freaked out by this, because, like I said, like, with my homegirl, she's like, no. Like, there's options. Like, it's not that in the world. Like, someone who's really see and. And nurses are testing and seeing the numbers and seeing how many people actually have herpes and how many people who. You're kissing someone who has herpes and you don't know it and you don't listen to you. You see, you're still walking around and you're living life. Like, they actually have that actual knowledge. So I don't think that that would scare them as much because as someone who's had these conversations on TikTok before, I definitely do feel like this is something that, unfortunately, it's not going to be easy. But I do think. And plus, the other thing is nurse niggas have money. The nurses have money. Especially once there are like, they be having money and they be. I mean, I've dated a couple nurses.
- [65:31]
Jameela
Especially the travel ones.
- [65:32]
Mecca
The travel. Like. And they're very cynical in a way. Like, health stuff is just. They're just the way that they think. I think that will make it really, because I'm thinking long term. I know that you asked us here about this particular mia, but it's gonna.
- [65:44]
Jameela
Continuously be something that you're right.
- [65:45]
Mecca
And this is something that you're gonna have to, you know, disclose a lot. And just in the long term, I think that definitely dating someone who's in the medical field, who's seeing this type these things all the time and is not as freaked out by them. I think that will work in your favor and. And they won't be broke. So you know that much.
- [66:02]
Jameela
Yes, but the first nigga who was rubbing cream on that dick before, you need to call your people.
- [66:08]
Mecca
Absolutely.
- [66:09]
Jameela
What he was doing, he just wanted a little coochie and he knew that you would not fuck him there. There's two parts to this. There's two parts to this, actually. Number one, he knew. He knew.
- [66:19]
Mecca
He lied.
- [66:20]
Jameela
Number two, you must inspect that dick.
- [66:25]
Mecca
Yes, I did. I say that on the podcast. I made a video about it. But I have actually been in that situation where I was getting ready to get fellatio and I saw something on the d CK that did not. It did not align with me at that moment.
- [66:37]
Jameela
And it's like, I don't know what that is.
- [66:38]
Mecca
And, and that's what. You know what's so crazy? Like niggas don't give a fuck about their own health, so I don't expect you to give a fuck about mine. He was gonna let me suck his dick with that old wound. No, I'm actually. Please take me home. I didn't have a lesson.
- [66:51]
Jameela
Let me tell you something. Even if, if, even if that was not herpes, that is still an open wound.
- [66:58]
Mecca
Why would you want me to put.
- [66:59]
Jameela
My saliva on that? My saliva has all the. All the bacteria that's in my mouth. I'm putting on your open wound. You nasty.
- [67:06]
Mecca
You know, I just. I just don't understand why. I don't know. Even as someone who is some, I'm not as hairy as I used to be because I get my hoo ha lasered shout out to laser hair removal, scorch the U.S. down there. But back in the day when I was shaving, I'm actually really. I'm prone to ingrown hairs. And you know, sometimes as most black people are right. We are more prone. And if your hair is kinky, I'm a four texture girl and like. And don't be fooled, I have a lot of chemicals and relaxed and gel and things. That's right. You know those ingrown hairs, they do turn into. You gotta pop em and they can be open and stuff. And I just remember when that happened to me, I would not even want to. I wouldn't want to do anything because I would be like, well, I don't want to have to try and explain a someone that this is not like something. This is literally just. I was.
- [67:54]
Jameela
And that's not going to help the ingrown hair. Right? But also having sex with a. A wound which is like if, you know, if you have an ingrown hair and it kind of busts open, it's an open wound. That's not going to help it heal. It's still it. You should still.
- [68:08]
Mecca
Friction time.
- [68:09]
Jameela
It's too much friction. Like, Jesus, rest down. It's okay to not have sex, you fucking horny bastard. Hurts. But anyway, like, sometimes you must sit down.
- [68:25]
Mecca
You just have to and just be.
- [68:26]
Jameela
Like, you know, maybe next week, maybe. Rain check.
- [68:30]
Mecca
You know what's so funny? If you ever have an ingrown hair and it's not coming to a head. This is an old head trick. Get the egg white of the. The skin of the egg. If you peel it out. You know how you crack an egg and it has that little layer of like film? Well, I can't think of the name of it right now, but my mom.
- [68:44]
Jameela
The membrane.
- [68:45]
Mecca
The membrane, kind of. My mom always did this growing up. If you have a pimple that you know how. It's not. It's not coming. It's not at a head.
- [68:52]
Jameela
So yeah, I have one right here. I have on a pimple patch. Yeah.
- [68:54]
Mecca
If you. This is the old school pimple patch. Before they had pimple patches, this is what the old people did. My grandmother did this. My great grandmother did like this something that I grew up doing. My mom would take the membrane and you put it on where your pimple and you put it on like a pimple patch and it will bring it to a head. That's some old school tea. That's some old tea. That's how you do that.
- [69:14]
Jameela
Oh, interesting.
- [69:16]
Mecca
All natural pimple patches. And I'm just saying some ingrown hair. Sometimes the ingrown hairs aren't. They're under the skin.
- [69:21]
Jameela
They.
- [69:22]
Mecca
They can't be pushed up. If you ever need to bring it to a head. Because I had a lot of. When I first started shaving my underarms as a kid, I used to get a lot of ingrown hairs. And that's always how my mom, she would just be like, okay, you got. You gotta like. We would try and keep it on, but she would always put them under my arms.
- [69:36]
Jameela
Wow.
- [69:36]
Mecca
So, yeah, that's a fun fact. Free game. Everyone has eggs. Well, they're expensive as fuck now.
- [69:41]
Jameela
Well, if you can't get a pimple.
- [69:42]
Mecca
Patch, you can get an egg. That's what I'm saying.
- [69:44]
Jameela
For sure. For sure. Also have that nigga Beat the fuck up.
- [69:49]
Mecca
Absolutely.
- [69:50]
Jameela
Because what he did was absolutely horrendous. Like, it's actually to the point where that's actually a crime. I don't know if you know that, but that's a crime.
- [69:58]
Mecca
It is a crime.
- [69:58]
Jameela
Knowingly infecting somebody with an ST or STI is a crime punishable by law.
- [70:05]
Mecca
Yes.
- [70:06]
Jameela
Dun dun.
- [70:06]
Mecca
And we're in the age of promoting violence. You know, I see Luigi's fan club, and I'm going to go ahead and promote violence in this situation.
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Jameela
If you deserve to be slapped, you got Steve slapped, then you have to get slapped. There's nothing I could do to prevent that.
- [70:21]
Mecca
Does Luigi deserve to be slapped? I'm not gonna get into that on here, but I just want to say, shout out to Baltimore County, Towson.
- [70:28]
Jameela
What I will say is, go Tigers. When you see people who are like, like, obviously bad people and, like, bad things happen to them, I sometimes be like, damn interesting. Well, prayers.
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Mecca
None of my business. Awkward.
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Jameela
So what I'm saying is, call your friends, brothers, cousins, dad and uncle to beat that ass for infecting you with that hurt. Because it didn't even have to be like that. But now that it's like that, you gonna be okay, sister. But the way he did that is just trifling as, like, you want to coochie that bad? You, you, you lame ass nigga. Beat that nigga up today. Yeah, don't let your coochie heal and then, you know, get you a nigga. That is understandable. And you'll be all right, sister, you know, or use your vibrator for a while.
- [71:18]
Mecca
I love my rose. She's gotten me through so much, you.
- [71:21]
Jameela
Know what I'm saying? Like, if you want to just take some time to yourself, you know, they.
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Mecca
Said that the rose makes the sensitivity on your clitoris not as strong. But I think I'm here for a good time, not a long time. You know who said that?
- [71:34]
Jameela
That sound like a propaganda set started by probably.
- [71:38]
Mecca
I said, I don't need. I don't need the sensation that bad. If I don't have it when I'm 70, I've enjoyed 50 years of it.
- [71:44]
Jameela
I feel like that is a scheme that them set up.
- [71:47]
Mecca
That scheme set up. I told because I just want to say I still feel everything.
- [71:51]
Jameela
I don't know, the way they feel, the way they be beating they shit. Like, you tell me that that still got sensitivity. I don't know. Like, y'all.
- [72:02]
Mecca
Get money, but yeah, girl, you gonna be all right. We're Wishing you the best. For real.
- [72:08]
Jameela
Wishing you all the best, sister. You be all right.
- [72:10]
Mecca
All right, let's get into reading these comments. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe to Unhinged and Immoral. And if you have something you want to send in, we'll plug the gmail again at Unhinged and Immoral Pod gmail dot com. I'm going to be reading the Spotify comments. Shout out to Ka oh Cambilli Osai. I hope I named that correctly.
- [72:37]
Jameela
Why are you.
- [72:40]
Mecca
That Greek part gave me trauma flashbacks. Let's not talk about that again. Same sister, same Lex said, baby one thing about being on the right side at 1911, it's most definitely wrong. You are absolutely correct. Straw hat Somerset. Not. Not a money in a cage. What did we say last week that said not a money in a cage? Who was in the cage with the money?
- [73:05]
Jameela
Oh, not a monkey in a cage.
- [73:06]
Mecca
Oh, monkey in a cage. Not a monkey in a cage. Well, the monkey was in the cage. Shout out to Sierra. She said, y'all are too funny. Okay, what's up? Are you from Baltimore Merlin. Oh, sweet Suge. Okay, Avery, sweet sug. Eleven said I cackled on Mecca. Asked who ate your butt the best.
- [73:28]
Jameela
Y'all are hilarious because why would she say it?
- [73:31]
Mecca
We're back with another comment from Hannah.
- [73:34]
Jameela
And I'm about to get mad at.
- [73:35]
Mecca
Us reading the comments every week. I didn't know you knew that was my insta. I thought I was a mysterious babe. I'm crying, Hannah, your name is the same on every platform.
- [73:46]
Jameela
I'm screaming. Let's get into these YouTube comments at Liberian G bana as an elder hello Lib. As an elder millennial auntie, I thoroughly enjoy yalls long form content coming over from TikTok period at Aisha above and above. And I don't know, 5, 7, 8. Above all, if the black lady sketch show ever comes back, y'all should be on main cast. Wake that up, wake that up. Wake that up, wake that up, wake that up.
- [74:25]
Mecca
Let's manifest that. That's lit.
- [74:26]
Jameela
That's lit you on to something, sister. At Madman 1000, I was around 11 or 12 when that r. Kelly tape hit the streets and I actually saw the tape. It was definitely him and everything they said it was. Oh my God. I've never to this day have seen a clip.
- [74:44]
Mecca
I don't want to.
- [74:45]
Jameela
I don't want to.
- [74:46]
Mecca
I don't want to.
- [74:47]
Jameela
But I'm surprised it hasn't like resurfaced right resurfaced.
- [74:50]
Mecca
Cause like the Internet, I do remember it being available at the barbershop. Yeah.
- [74:54]
Jameela
People.
- [74:54]
Mecca
Because I remember my, like, uncles and dad talking about it, but I've never seen it. I don't think they've ever seen it.
- [74:59]
Jameela
It.
- [74:59]
Mecca
The contents of, you know, just with the con. Context of the contents of the tape. That's a child that. That's happening with like a 12 year old. That was the fact that was buying that disgusting.
- [75:09]
Jameela
But yeah, that actually sick as like.
- [75:12]
Mecca
Oh, my God.
- [75:13]
Jameela
At Pinky D12. Yes. You all are on top of dropping these contents.
- [75:18]
Mecca
Well, baby, we really trying me. We're trying to keep up with it, girl.
- [75:22]
Jameela
Yeah, we. We got. We got y'all at Deanna XO Mecca saying he had you fucked up. Though the next statement out of Jameela's mouth had me floored. Like, omg, that was so wild. Who knows what I even said it.
- [75:35]
Mecca
Was when you had said he told you you wasn't a strong black woman.
- [75:38]
Jameela
Oh, yes.
- [75:39]
Mecca
Well, he had you fucked up.
- [75:41]
Jameela
Don't fuck with no Sigmas.
- [75:43]
Mecca
No Wiggles.
- [75:44]
Jameela
Fuck the Wiggles at T AG baby. Y'all be in with these names.
- [75:53]
Mecca
Let me say. Let me see.
- [75:57]
Jameela
Something. Lmao. Y'all are so funny. That Greek advice y'all gave was too real.
- [76:03]
Mecca
This is a. This is a very cute profile picture, by the way. Girl.
- [76:06]
Jameela
It is hair lady.
- [76:08]
Mecca
Very pretty.
- [76:09]
Jameela
At Daylar or at Dela Rain 6077 make us black Christmas plushies.
- [76:17]
Mecca
It's a Negro home, child. It's a Negro home dad. I'll be reading the apple comments. This is from Nia Divine Love, y'all. Down tens, tens across the board. I love you guys so much. It's really giving the raw, uncut version of TikTok and I'm here for it. I love that you guys are growing and getting all the support you need. P. S. I might be a little slow, but how do we submit submissions to you guys at unhinged and immoral podmail.com Don't. That's where you'd email it. Unhinged and immoral pod p. O. D at gmail dot com. It's spelled exactly the way it sounds. Thank you so much. And I think this says Ashlee and Marie just love it. And she gave us some brown ethnic clap clap claps. Amazing podcast. That's from Sydney. Fauxheaded. Ooh, are you from Cali? Sidney Fauxhunted, My favorite podcast. The hour yap sessions make me feel like we're on FaceTime with just my Homegirls. Never a. Never a dull moment, period. And what's this? Oh, Silent G said auntie challenge now. Y'all said it, not me, Jameela.
- [77:33]
Jameela
And mind you, these comments are before, so that was funny. Yeah, they had to be.
- [77:37]
Mecca
Oh, Apple's on a delay. Well, that's just ironic. That is just. I love that Auntie challenge. Jameela and Mecca are so well spoken and engaging. I love this show and look forward to more episodes. Episodes. Thank you so much. Well, all right. Thank you, thank you, thank you. My laptop down.
- [77:57]
Jameela
Well, we love you guys so much.
- [77:59]
Mecca
So this is our first episode of 2025.
- [78:02]
Jameela
Actually, I was gonna say this is our last episode of the year, but it's not. It's actually our first episode of the New year, so.
- [78:06]
Mecca
Happy New Year. Happy New Year. And we hope that you guys have an amazing New Year's. Be safe. Make sure you kiss somebody.
- [78:16]
Jameela
Well, shit, they're saying this on the second. So did you kiss anybody? Did you kiss anybody? Who did you start the new year with?
- [78:22]
Mecca
Hey, fun fact. You know how I started the New Year's last year?
- [78:24]
Jameela
How?
- [78:25]
Mecca
I let a man from Trinidad eat me out and then I went home. What a way to start the year.
- [78:33]
Jameela
What a way to start.
- [78:34]
Mecca
Shout out to the training people.
- [78:36]
Jameela
I started out the year at home. I believe I was at home, which is like, I kind of really wanted to just chill. But this year I kind of want to, like, be out. Like, I want to do something, like, fun. So we'll see. I. I don't know, we'll see what the cards holds, but definitely, I hope you guys take a little bit of our advice about manifesting and speaking everything into existence.
- [78:55]
Mecca
Speak everything that you want.
- [78:56]
Jameela
Truly, truly intentional. You have to also put in the work.
- [78:59]
Mecca
Encouraging. Let me speak life to you.
- [79:05]
Jameela
Please don't get meca singing.
- [79:14]
Mecca
Happy New Year's. Be safe.
- [79:16]
Jameela
We'll see you next Thursday. Bye. Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila.
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Mecca
Bell and Mecca, produced by Melissa D. Montz and Diamond Imprint Productions, post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistant by Melanie.
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Jameela
D. Watson, music by Adi and Brooklyn.
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Mecca
Billionaires and graphics by Claudia Choi.