Menaces to Society

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unhinged & Immoral – Episode: Menaces to Society

Podcast Information:

• Title: Unhinged & Immoral
• Hosts: Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans
• Producer: Diamond MPrint Productions
• Release Date: April 10, 2025
• Description: Unhinged & Immoral delves into the most sensational aspects of internet gossip and pop culture, hosted by best friends Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans. Combining their PR expertise and love for drama, they analyze trending topics, share personal stories, and offer unfiltered opinions on everything from celebrity scandals to viral TikToks.

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I. School Memories and Pranks

The episode kicks off with Jamila and Mecca reminiscing about their tumultuous school days, sharing anecdotes that highlight their mischievous antics and the challenges they faced.

• Jamila’s Prank on a Teacher ([07:01]): Jamila recounts throwing her math teacher Ms. Proccasini’s glasses into a tampon trash can, unaware of its specific purpose. She explains, “I didn’t realize that trash can in the girls restroom was only for tampons and pads because I had never had a period” ([09:37]). This act of rebellion led to her suspension on the last day of eighth grade, a moment she describes as her “little bad girl error” ([20:25]).

• Mecca’s Detention Story ([02:58]): Mecca shares her experience of being sent to detention for not running a mile during PE class. She humorously recalls how her teacher, Mr. Scorsa, reprimanded her, leading her to reflect on her reputation as a disciplined student who only let her guard down around friends ([03:05]).

• Brother Darrington’s Troubles ([02:18]): Both hosts discuss their brother Darrington, portraying him as the quintessential troublemaker with “the second most detentions at Sac High his freshman year” ([02:37]). His antics, such as farting near teachers and creating chaos, serve as a contrast to Jamila and Mecca’s own behavior ([04:12]).

II. Pop Culture Discussions and Trends

Jamila and Mecca delve into various pop culture moments, comparing the nature of virality in the past to the present.

• Viral Moments of the 2000s ([25:06]): The hosts reminisce about how achieving viral status in the early days of the internet was a significant feat. They highlight moments like Rachel Dolezal being outed as a white woman ([25:49]), discussing how such events were major cultural phenomena compared to today's more fragmented viral landscape ([25:49]).

• Hebrew Israelites and Black Identity ([32:39]): A substantial portion of the conversation addresses the complexities of Black identity, particularly focusing on the Hebrew Israelite movement. Jamila expresses frustration over conflicting narratives, stating, “You cannot be both Israelites and classic Native Americans at the same time” ([34:28]). Mecca adds, “The transatlantic slave trade was getting busy... people look to Black Americans constantly for style, intellectualism” ([38:07]).

• Pop Culture Icons and Viral Content ([26:05]): The hosts discuss various pop culture figures and viral content from their youth, including references to drag queens like Ms. Peaches who captivated their school environment ([26:05]). They also touch upon how pop culture has evolved with the rise of platforms like TikTok, influencing global trends differently than before ([25:57]).

III. Relationship Advice: 'Spin It' Segment

In their signature segment, "Spin It," Jamila and Mecca offer advice to listeners seeking guidance on personal dilemmas.

• Listener’s Relationship Struggle ([47:16]): A 19-year-old listener reaches out for help after being ghosted by her boyfriend, Drew, who repeatedly disappears and later reappears with another girl. Jamila narrates the listener’s emotional turmoil: “He made me feel special. And yet, once he finally got his shit together, he dropped me and went straight to her” ([47:56]).

• Advice Given ([50:07] – [57:51]):

  • Jamila’s Guidance: Emphasizes clarity in relationships, advising listeners to define their relationship status explicitly to avoid misunderstandings. She states, “You are not in a relationship with a man until y'all explicitly say you are” ([50:23]).
  • Mecca’s Support: Encourages emotional resilience, assuring the listener that her worth is not determined by Drew’s actions. She advises, “Feel everything this first time around... you are not the one for someone” ([56:20]).
  • Joint Advice: Both hosts stress the importance of self-respect and maintaining healthy boundaries. They suggest practical steps like muting or blocking to move on, while also highlighting the value of learning from each experience to handle future relationships better.

IV. Emphasis on Sexual Health

The hosts shift focus to a crucial yet often overlooked topic: sexual health and personal wellness.

• Importance of Regular Check-ups ([63:40]): Jamila and Mecca advocate for proactive sexual health practices, urging listeners to perform regular self-examinations and maintain routine medical check-ups. They discuss the significance of understanding one's body, stating, “Take a look. Get a mirror right now. Put it in front of your vagina” ([65:10]).

• Broader Health Awareness ([66:02]): The conversation expands to include general health maintenance, such as breast self-exams and awareness of bodily changes. Jamila emphasizes, “You must be keeping that look you” ([65:52]), while Mecca underscores the necessity of being attentive to any abnormalities to ensure early detection and treatment.

V. Listener Feedback and Community Engagement

Engagement with listeners plays a pivotal role in the podcast’s dynamic.

• Reading Reviews and Comments ([68:12] – [72:19]): Jamila and Mecca share and react to various listener comments from platforms like Spotify and YouTube. Highlights include:
  • Essie Bookie ([68:51]): Responds to Jamila’s humorous take on glasses, adding to the hosts’ banter.
  • Coco ([68:53]): Notes the sensitive handling of dementia discussions, appreciating the hosts’ balance of humor and empathy.
  • Kylie Price ([69:07]): Praises the chemistry between Jamila and Mecca, particularly enjoying their storytelling.
  • Other Comments: Listeners commend the hosts’ humor, relatability, and candidness, enhancing the community feel of the podcast.

VI. Upcoming Events and Announcements

Jamila and Mecca conclude the episode by promoting upcoming events, fostering real-world connections with their audience.

• Listening Party for Artist Audie ([73:03]): Jamila announces a listening party for Audie’s EP in Atlanta, emphasizing collaborative and networking opportunities. She provides details: “April 12, on Peter Street… 333 Peter Street at Peter Street Station” ([73:03]).

• Restaurant Grand Opening ([73:57]): Mecca shares news about her cousin’s new restaurant, Curbside Eatery, in Da Nair, California. She invites listeners in the area to support the venture, specifying the location and offerings: “4332 Main Street Diner, California… soul food, hibachi” ([73:57]).

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Notable Quotes:

• Jamila Bell ([07:35]): “You was a bitch. Like, no shade. Like, you was a bitch.”
• Mecca Evans ([25:58]): “We used to really take it there. But now, of course…”
• Jamila Bell ([32:34]): “We cannot be both Israelites and classic Native Americans at the same time.”
• Mecca Evans ([50:40]): “He was a goddamn lie. He liked that girl.”
• Jamila Bell ([62:34]): “Having feelings for somebody is not bad.”
• Mecca Evans ([56:25]): “Learn to walk away now and learn to do what these niggas do to you.”

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Unhinged & Immoral continues to blend personal storytelling with sharp commentary on cultural phenomena, all while fostering a strong sense of community among its listeners. This episode, "Menaces to Society," exemplifies the hosts' ability to navigate complex topics with humor, honesty, and a touch of irreverence, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and relatable insights.

Transcript

[Jamila Bell]

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[Mecca]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged. Anymore.

[Jamila Bell]

I am Mecca and I am Tamila.

[Mecca]

It's another week, another day, another dollar, another Monday. But you're probably not hearing this till Thursday because that's when the episodes drop. It's been an eventful week for us.

[Jamila Bell]

It's been an very eventful week for us.

[Mecca]

Yes, darling, yes, yes. But we're still here. You know, you can't shake me. You can't kill a bad bitch. Where is Ms. Keisha at? That was a pop culture. That was shit. Speaking of, that was a black pop culture moment.

[Jamila Bell]

You can't kill me.

[Mecca]

I'm a bad bitch. Why is you 7 years old talking like that?

[Jamila Bell]

She ate that.

[Mecca]

Honestly, that's how I acted when I was her age. So let me know. Let me know.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not surprised one bit.

[Mecca]

I never cursed in front of my parents, so I only wrote my cousins. You want to hear something funny? I was like, as much as I come off, like, very. I was always so well behaved around adults. So my aunties and stuff didn't even believe that I cursed like for years. Like I would act like that around my cousins facade and I would get around the adults and be like, can I please have this miam? Like I would like. I would like. That's why I feel like I'm so good at coast with you because I've really been doing that shit for like my entire life. Then I would get around the kids, bitch. Fuck you and your mama.

[Jamila Bell]

Stupid bitch. Terrorizing children as soon as you leave adult supervision. Exactly.

[Mecca]

And that was Darrington problem. He didn't know how to do the switch up right.

[Jamila Bell]

He was like, bitch, I'm bad all around.

[Mecca]

Bitch, fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.

[Jamila Bell]

Just bad. Yeah, he bad.

[Mecca]

I'm not sorry. My mom, she would never let us call kids bad. Darrington was rambunctious.

[Jamila Bell]

That boy was bad.

[Mecca]

Darrington was absolutely bad.

[Jamila Bell]

Darrington was bad.

[Mecca]

Fun fact. Darrington had the second most detentions at Sac High his freshman year. Because he would do stupid shit. He would do shit. Like, I remember one time he got a. He got a P10, which was what our detention was. Because he went up next to the teacher and farted away. Like, just terrorizing. Like, why are you acting like that?

[Jamila Bell]

Like, have you lost your damn mind? Have you ever been sent to detention or been suspended?

[Mecca]

I was sent to detention in high school. When I went to Kennedy, I had detentions for each time. So I was at Kennedy for three years. I was at Sac High for one year. I got pten one time, and I was new to that school, so I had on a sweater. And I didn't know that we couldn't wear sweaters without patterns. So that was completely like, just. Sac High is jail. I don't know if it's still fucking light. Yeah, it was a uniform school. And the colors were purple, black and white. And my. My sweater was purple with white polka dots. Apparently, it couldn't have a fucking pattern on it. I didn't know that. And they would keep the school cold as shit.

[Jamila Bell]

So they went into detention for that.

[Mecca]

They sent me. Yeah. Because they hate black children. Yeah. Sacramento. Sacramento High School is Rikers Island. Kevin Johnson don't know what the fuck he's got going on, but it's jail. Don't know if it's still like that, but it was like that in 2013. And then at Kennedy, I got detention one time from PE Because I wouldn't run the mile. I just got my hair. Flat iron.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm crying. One thing about me.

[Mecca]

What was my teacher's name? He was Mexican. His name was Mr. Scorsa. Ugh. Bro. And mind you, I didn't even used to get my hair flatiron like that. So. And I sweat from my root. I say this all the time. That's why they cut my hair now. And he said, if you don't run the Mile, you gotta go to detention. I said, well, coach scores. I gotta go.

[Jamila Bell]

I eat it. That's crazy. I don't think I ever got in trouble for not doing my PE things. Cause I never did them. I've never been athletic. Whenever it came time to do the Mile, I'm Walking it. It's giving 15 minutes. I'm not running this.

[Mecca]

I would be walking a mile. My would take 23. I'm.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm walking and strutting. I'm trying to be.

[Mecca]

When I say I would be moseying, I would not. But I was. I was, I was a chuck. Y'all was around a little girl baby.

[Jamila Bell]

I mean, walking and trying to be cute. You better be lucky I didn't tie that shirt up in the front. You know, I was a little. I wanted.

[Mecca]

I loved when the girls did that. I loved when the girls did that.

[Jamila Bell]

I never fully commit, but I always wanted to be fast. I loved when the fast girls would do their things like you guys.

[Mecca]

That is such like a. What is that? A black middle school experience. I can't run the mile because I just got my hair done. I can't do this because of this. I gotta tie the shirt up in the back to be cute. I remember one time we were doing sit ups and I farted and everyone heard, just slipped out.

[Jamila Bell]

Woo. Damn this.

[Mecca]

It went with someone holding my feet and my teacher, Mr. Barrick at Sam Brennan. Shout out Mr. Barrick. He's like, dang Mecca, are you okay?

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my God, it was loud as fuck. Him bringing more attention to it is insane. Like, actually, how about I hang myself in front of everybody?

[Mecca]

I mean, you know, I've always been who I am, so. Although I was extremely embarrassed, I also thought it was funny as fuck because the way it slipped out, I had no control of my bowels at that.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, farting is so funny because it's like, I know you couldn't help it. I know that thing just.

[Mecca]

Oh, because you know when you're doing.

[Jamila Bell]

This sit up, you, you crunching your stomach.

[Mecca]

The air had escaped.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, actually, that's exactly what I needed. I did have a tummy ache.

[Mecca]

Yeah, my stomach was hurting. Thank you.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my God. I think I got. I had detention a lot, but it was always for like, I don't know, dumb shit or grades. Because we had this thing in high school where like, if your grades drop below a certain point, you would have to go to a certain part. Like, you can only eat lunch for like 10 minutes and then you would have to go to like a detention to, like, do your work. I'm like, what the fuck, bitch? So I had that a couple of times. I forgot what they called it. I had ISS a couple of times for. I don't remember why I had iss. It was probably for talking when there was a substitute. You Know, just the regular. But I did get suspended once. Um.

[Mecca]

What'd you get suspended for, Danila?

[Jamila Bell]

I got suspended the last day of eighth grade. You showed your ass.

[Mecca]

I.

[Jamila Bell]

So.

[Mecca]

So that. Did that mean it carried into the first couple days of high school?

[Jamila Bell]

No, it didn't. Like, because the schools were not connected. They didn't even.

[Mecca]

No one cared. Okay. Usually if they were connected, that's what would have happened.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, it was literally just that.

[Mecca]

I think Darington had to do things.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not surprised. So basically, there was this teacher. I'm gonna say her name because I don't know. Hey, Ms. Paccasini. I'm so sorry I did this to you. I was just bad. I don't know.

[Mecca]

You was in the wrong. What'd you do?

[Jamila Bell]

I was dead the fuck wrong. I was dead the fuck wrong. But every time I think about it, I still laugh to this day. So I was in eighth grade, and me and my friend at the time, Courtney, it was a white girl. We were, like, doing pranks in the school, right? What we consider to be pranks, they were stupid. We did not like this teacher, Ms. Brini. We thought she was rude. And I'm not gonna lie, Ms. Proccasini, I am sorry, but you was a bitch. Like, no shade. Like, you was a bitch. So still, like, you was. You was mean, and I ain't like that. And she was my math teacher. So for like a week straight, for the last. The last week of school, we were, like, throwing shit away from her desk. Like, just being petty. Like, throw this pin away.

[Mecca]

That was important to her.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay? So the second to last day that I did it, I threw away her water bottle, right? I'm like. I feel like that's like. We was really. We was really tested. I'm like, damn. She didn't even peep. So, like, every time, like, we would not get in trouble. So obviously, one thing about me, I. I take shit too far. I do.

[Mecca]

Too far. What'd you do? What'd you throw away, Jameela?

[Jamila Bell]

I threw away her glasses, Jamila. But listen, listen, listen, listen. Let me. Let me tell you guys how this happened because. Okay, so let me. Let me. I didn't understand how serious it was because I've been not diagnosed, but, like, I've been told that I need glasses since fourth grade. I just never wear them.

[Mecca]

She can't drive with our glasses. She's like me. She can't drive with our glasses.

[Jamila Bell]

Listen, Jameela, I didn't realize that everybody was not like me. I Thought people were just choosing to wear their glasses. I didn't realize that there were some people that literally could not see without them. I did not realize that. So that's number one. So number two, I, of course, had to take it too fucking far. I didn't just throw them away in the trash can next to her desk like I did everything else. I threw it away in the girls restroom in the fucking tampon trash can.

[Mecca]

Jamila, you're a menace to society, and you deserve that punishment. What the actual fuck?

[Jamila Bell]

Also, sidebar. These are not excuses. I'm just putting you in my 8th grade frame of mind. I did not know that that trash can in the girls restroom was only for tampons and pads because I had never had a period. Again, I didn't know. I just thought it was a regular trash can. I just thought it was a regular trash can. I just thought it was a regular trash can. So.

[Mecca]

So wait, wait, wait. Did she got her glasses back?

[Jamila Bell]

She did. Eventually. Let me tell you how I got caught, because how I got caught is actually stupider than how. It's so bad, y'all. I. I really feel bad about this. I want y'all to know.

[Mecca]

It's just funny because Mouth and Gabe, I'm flabbergasted. As a. As an avid glasses wearer, I can't drive without my glasses.

[Jamila Bell]

And that's why it became such an issue. She could not go home. She made a ruckus like, I cannot find my glasses. And she just knew somebody took it. I don't know how. I guess she just knew we were.

[Mecca]

Yeah, if you put your glasses back in the spot.

[Jamila Bell]

You know what I'm saying? So basically, I was in chorus, which is crazy, y'all. I was. I almost got away with it, bro. I was so close to school. This was my last class of the day. We had maybe 30 minutes left of school, maybe. I was in chorus. I'm sitting, I'm like, wow. Like, we got away with it. Like, I kind of forgot about it. I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, okay, cool. The Internet. The intercom comes on. I need Jamila Bell and Courtney to the. To my office. Shout out to Ms. Doramus. I said. I said, oh. Oh, shit. I'm caught. I'm sorry. I'm caught. I'm caught. I'm caught. So I go to the office. I'm looking at Courtney. I said, you better not snitch. You better not snitch. She was like, I can't. I can't lie to me. Like, can't lie. I said, let me go first. Shit. I, I, I'll squash this shit. I go in there. This was like some fucking FBI shit. She, since she has a little charm, she goes, is this your charm, my stupid ass. I go, yes. Oh, my God. I didn't even realize I dropped my charm. Thank you. Why would I think that the principal was calling me there just for a fucking charm? Like, bitch, you dumb ass. You dumb ass little girls. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, Kiria, you found my charm. Thank you, Girl that dares go in my bracelet. Does it? So this was the charm that was found on the desk. Do you know where her glasses. It's like I was trapped. I was like, investigating. I said, at that point, I couldn't lie. I said, yes. And I just snitched on myself. And I'm like, damn, I'm caught. I was like, yeah. And she was like, she cannot drive home without her glasses. I said, oh, my God, for real? Damn. Let me go get him real quick, child. I didn't know he was that d. I said, let me go get him. I know it was that. She's like, go get him and we'll, we'll. Then we'll be okay. I said, let me just go get him, child. I thought we was gonna be okay if I got him. I thought everything was gonna be cool if I was like, I should have.

[Mecca]

Known that was a lie, child.

[Jamila Bell]

I should have known that was a lie. If you just go get him, you'll be okay. Okay, cool. I hand her glasses. I'm like, sorry, Ms. Proccasini. She looked at me like, you bitch. And I was like, okay, cool. So we can go home, right? She goes, call your mother. Huh? My mom called. Dollar Bill, please call my mama, man. Girl, that was the scariest shit I ever had to do. I said, oh, my God.

[Mecca]

You.

[Jamila Bell]

I had to tell her what I did you tell her? I don't want to say nothing.

[Mecca]

I'm like, I took my teacher's glasses that she can't drive without. Just stupid.

[Jamila Bell]

Did she clean them? I didn't. I just. I took them out. It wasn't nothing in there but the glasses. The pussy. The eighth grade pussy. Period on the glasses today.

[Mecca]

Wait, Jamila. Did you even tell her they was in the tampon garment or you just gave them to her?

[Jamila Bell]

I think I did tell her where they was at. At that point, I was just coming clean. But like I said, I didn't realize that it was a tampon trash can. I just Thought it was a trash can in the bathroom. And then when I said that, Ms. Doremis was like the teampot trash can. Mr. Ramis was a black ass assistant principal. And I actually, me and Ms. Doramis was really cool. Like, we still cool.

[Mecca]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jamila Bell]

If I see her today, we like this. She know I'm. You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

She said, damn, girl.

[Jamila Bell]

I said my. I didn't know. I thought it was a regular trash can. I didn't get my period till I was a sophomore. I didn't know anything about that.

[Mecca]

Kids and tampons. I. So my advisory class, which was like a homeroom kind of did a prank with a tampon shout out to Ms. Christensen. And I'm gonna just say names because it's been 10 years. This was like, I don't know. I don't give a damn.

[Jamila Bell]

Shout out advisory.

[Mecca]

Ms. Christensen was this. She was. Her first name was Dulce and she taught Spanish. She said, my name is Sugar in Spanish. Candy Dulce. Because it's candy. Sugar. Sweet. So, like, she was a first year teacher at Sac High, which is a black ass high school and filled with the BAE base kids. This was my first year at Psych high, and I was thrown in the class with, like, I mean, every ruck maker at the school. And so they would do what you're talking about, pull pranks on Ms. Christensen. Now, I would not want to be.

[Jamila Bell]

A part of this.

[Mecca]

And Ms. Christensen would also, like, tell us her business. Like, her husband was this white man who she met in the chat rooms, but at this point, when she was in Mexico, but they had got married and had kids at this point. Oh, okay. So, yeah, Cheyenne, which was one of my friends at Sakai. What's up, Cheyenne? Decided, let's play a prank on Ms. Christensen. And so her. This girl, Alize Zavante, was my friend. He didn't want to do it. I can't remember who else was involved in it. Oh, this guy named Pete. He was in my advisory. They got a tampon and they dunked it in Kool Aid to make it look like it was used. And they laid it out in the middle of the classroom. So we were all sitting there, and Ms. Christensen had to. She had to do something. And then she would always come in the classroom. Like, at the end behind us, we were all sitting there like pristine angels. This supposedly used tampon in the middle of. Mind you, we're juniors in high school. She walks in and goes, it was so dramatic, bro. She Said, who's this? This?

[Jamila Bell]

Who left this here?

[Mecca]

Da, da, da. Just like this thick Spanish accent. She eventually starts crying.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my God.

[Mecca]

Because she had been dealing with the class like, this was, like, well into the year. And they always pranked her and always gave her a hard time. She was like, I come here. I give you guys my all, and you do this to me. Now, mind you, whole time I'm telling Cheyenne, I'm like, don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. Like, stop this. Too far away.

[Jamila Bell]

Like Kenya.

[Mecca]

Cheyenne, like Kenya. This too far. Shine too stop. Far. Stop. Don't do this. Ms. Christensen is bawling. She calls her husband. She walks out. Shout out to Wanda Starks, the Sacramento high school legend. She was mean girl. I mean, mean Ms. Starks didn't play nice shaking old wig. And to put the fear in your heart of God, she walked in there with her hands behind her back, her glasses all the way down here, and she looked at everybody. Honestly, I probably would look like Ms. Starks when I get that age. Cause she was like, we look alike. Same skin tone, same, like, face, glasses, build. We both love a good chick. And go. She was like, this. You disrespected teacher. Like, she.

[Jamila Bell]

It was the same.

[Mecca]

Scary as shit.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, as kids the whole time. Things that make no sense.

[Mecca]

Mind you, I'm willing to stitch, I'm willing to tell on air, but I'm like, I don't. And we didn't end up having to tell because no one ever came clean. Cheyenne was looking at everyone like, don't say shit. Like. And I think we all, as a class, had to, like, do something. I think we had a group detention or, like, a group something. We lost our privileges for something as a class, which was honestly pissing me off. But, you know, solidarity. Kate Snitch 1. Band with sound, you know, homeroom.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. Ugh.

[Mecca]

Fuck you guys.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, fuck you, Cheyenne. To this day, that was definitely, like. That's definitely one of the worst things I've ever done. And it's like, every time I think about it, I'm like, girl, you know, like, girl, why did you do that? But it's like, you know, kids, we just. Nothing makes sense. Like, it does not make sense when you're doing it.

[Mecca]

This is why kids, like, really. And honestly, even 18, because we were at 17 at this point, it's like, you be knowing shit is wrong. But so oftentimes, I feel like children do not understand the gravity of, like, how wrong it is. Like, you do Understand, like, morally, I shouldn't be doing this. But the understanding of, like, whoa, this is too far. That piece of your brain.

[Jamila Bell]

Why is the threshold never. It's like the threshold just was not there. I'm like, damn, Like, I did do too much. I did too much.

[Mecca]

Cause that should be the same as also, like, calling someone ugly, like, the threat. Like, but it'd be the same amount of wrong in your brain. Like, oh, I hate that teacher. That's wrong. You shouldn't have said that. I'm gonna throw her glasses away.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm throwing this glass away. I was like. In my head, I'm like, the bitch ain't find nothing else. I threw away. She won't. The way you think is so stupid when you're a kid. Like, your thought process is so incredibly dumb. So my punishment for that was I had to miss the last day. But let me tell you how insane I was for attention. Nobody knew what the fuck happened. I simply disappeared. Imagine, mind you, this was not like we didn't have social media the way that we do now. This was eighth grade.

[Mecca]

You just literally left.

[Jamila Bell]

I just left the school. I went on the bus. I didn't say nothing to nobody because I was scared shitless, because I knew I was getting my ass whooped when I got home, which I did. Of all the ass whoopings, that was the one I deserved the most. I didn't. Y'all right when I tell you I was. I was scared, but I didn't even. I didn't even flinch because I knew I was getting my ass toe. I said, you know, I ain't gonna lie. I earned that one.

[Mecca]

Go ahead, tap, tap.

[Jamila Bell]

I earned that one. You know what I'm saying? I'mma have to eat that. But, like, I just disappeared. That was the last day of school. I didn't come. I didn't show up again. No one saw me again until the first day a freshman year of high school. Do you know that it was almost like an urban legend. I felt like I was walking to that class, like, ooh, where did Jamila go? And I'm like, I got suspended. Last day of school, I got suspended. I'm back now, though. Yeah, what's up?

[Mecca]

I don't know.

[Jamila Bell]

I felt like a bad bitch. I felt like everybody was just like, ooh, you got suspended on the last day of school. Like, ooh, everybody knew I got suspended. Nobody knew what for. It was insane. So that was like my little bad girl error. I was really bad for them last.

[Mecca]

Two weeks of school.

[Jamila Bell]

I was like, yeah, but after that, I really didn't do anything crazy. That was the only really bad thing I ever did as a kid.

[Mecca]

We're gonna take a break.

[Jamila Bell]

And we're back.

[Mecca]

I didn't have a bad girl ERA in school. I did get. I didn't know it wasn't a full suspension because my mom was friends with the principal, because educators. This boy took my glasses off and threw them in the wood chips and scratched them. And this is the days, like as a kid, we didn't have goggles. I was a baby in glasses. I've been wearing glasses since I was in first grade. We didn't have the nice durable baby goggles that six year olds wear. Now I had a real pair of BB glasses that my mama looked at me and said, do not fuck these glasses up.

[Jamila Bell]

You bet not.

[Mecca]

You bet not, girl. I whooped that little boy's ass.

[Jamila Bell]

But that's different. Cause that's like not self defense. But it's like he earned a time. It is.

[Mecca]

But technically, since we both laid hands, we both should have got suspended. But again, I was an angel baby. And this lady was friends with my mom. And they said, mecca, what happened? I said, he took my glasses that I just got off my face. And you see, it's a big scratch. And da da, da, da, baby. When I say, my mama came, picked me up, took me to Starbucks. Cause this is, this, you gotta remember, this is like 2002 when Starbucks was like, woo. And it was right next door to Nugget. That's the rich grocery store in California. It's like a, that's a. That's a step above Whole Foods, girl. That's rich. And my daddy was so happy. Cause he's so ghetto. And he's like, oh, you whooped that little boy's ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went and got me a snack. I got some. I got a little cheat from both my parents that day. I said, yep, don't play with it. I was right back to school the next day. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh my God.

[Mecca]

But that boy made fun of me for years. His name was Marcos Short ass. He used to call me hairy beast. Which I was very hairy as a kid. And he called me Wolfie. Right?

[Jamila Bell]

Like we don't need to add beast.

[Mecca]

Why is it a beast? He would be like, oh, you hairy beast.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, damn. You'd be like, just be the hairy bitch. I'd rather be a hairy bitch than a beast.

[Mecca]

Like, why we have to go by the fed?

[Jamila Bell]

Whoa.

[Mecca]

He also used to call me Wolfie. It was because he never recovered from me whooping his ass in front of everyone. Cause, mind you, this was in, like, first grade, and we were in school together till 6, so. And I would just be like, marcos, you don't want me to whoop your ass again. I'll be bad around the kid. You don't want me to knock your head in between the swings again.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my gosh. Child. Being a child is so funny. Like, every time I think back into, like, just all the things that we did that were so stupid, I literally. I think it's the funniest shit ever. Like, I truly. It's one of my things that I always say, I think kids should be bad. Get that shit out your system. Yeah, Relatively speaking, age appropriate badness is you supposed to be bad. You're supposed to get your bad shit out the way. That way, when you get grown, you're like, ah. I'm not like, ah, come on. Like, I would never think about doing some bullshit like, bitch, I'm 28. I was already bad.

[Mecca]

I'm glad that Darrington was bad is because I wasn't bad. But I would be doing bad shit because I would be doing bad shit because, one, I would be trying to convince Darrington not to do it, and then somehow I get involved, but I wouldn't get involved to the point where I would get in trouble again. Darrington just has a threshold of, like, he don't know what too far ever was. So he would still always get in trouble solo. But I felt like I got the experience of being both a good and bad child because of my brother. So shout out to Darington.

[Jamila Bell]

He was bad enough for both of you.

[Mecca]

He was lit. So bad. But mind you, when I say bad again, relatively speaking, Darius has never, like, been in trouble with the law. He's never, like. It was never that, but he was just like, oh, my God, you're so bad. What is wrong with you? Yeah, this nigga used to. In high school, he used to, like, rip his shirt off at pep rallies. Like, sit down.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, I. It's crazy, because I know exactly what archetype of child he was.

[Mecca]

Yeah, he. He was just an attention whore. He loved it. Yeah. Being a kid was so fun. And being a kid in the early ages of the Internet and, like, when shit was first going viral and it really, like, it wasn't just viral on your side of TikTok, it was viral for the entire world. Like, you went viral. Yeah, you're on the Ellen Show. You're on fucking cnn?

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Like, people.

[Jamila Bell]

People really don't even appreciate virality anymore because it's honestly so easy to go viral now. Like, you could do some bullshit and go viral, right? And. But I don't think y'all understand that getting a million views Something in 2010 or 2009 was insane. Charlie. Like, it wasn't. And it would be so viral to the point where you could bring it up to anybody and they will understand it. Like, now, of course, if we have a video go viral, it's like, only like, a certain group of type of people may have even seen that one viral thing. You know what I'm saying? It's not necessarily mega viral to where, you know, whatever, but pop culture, even.

[Mecca]

In middle school, when that shit was happening, what was that one video? Her name? She took a tumble. She stepped upon the.

[Jamila Bell]

Scarlet.

[Mecca]

Scarlet takes a tumble.

[Jamila Bell]

Scarlet take a tumble.

[Mecca]

Shout out to Scarlet. Wherever she's at.

[Jamila Bell]

Wherever you are, girl. Like, did you.

[Mecca]

Did you. I used to watch Ms. Peaches, who was a drag queen. Fry that chicken.

[Jamila Bell]

Fry that chicken. There were so many.

[Mecca]

There's so many. Remember, shoes, Shoes, shoes. Let's get some shoes, bitch. Wait, what? That was another, like, drag queen and her name was like.

[Jamila Bell]

That might have been on your Nisha side of the.

[Mecca]

That was not. But Caucasian is going to feel me on that one. Shoes. She was a school from, like, a valley white girl. She had glasses and everything. You might not have seen that one.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. To girl, what is your favorite pop culture moment?

[Mecca]

When I think about pop culture moments of, like, the 2000 and tens. I'm not natural. It's not going to be one that's, like, viral in that moment, per se. But it's important to me. I remember when Rachel Dolezal was outed as being a white woman only because. And it stuck so hard again, this was like, in 2015. We were in college by this point. But again, going viral in 2015, way different from going viral in 2025. This shit hit like grits and Twitter was jokes. And then Hampton Twitter. The way motherfuckers was adding me talking about. I thought that was Mecca. That's why it stuck so hard in my brain, because she had. We're just talking about Shake and go today. She had that curly shake and go wig that, you know, I used to wear.

[Jamila Bell]

Sit down.

[Mecca]

The way N was playing on my head for 24 hours straight. Yeah. N was playing with me. And I will never forget that.

[Jamila Bell]

It's so funny because of the interviews that came after it. Like, she's interviewing. And people are like, are your parents white? And she would just walk away like, what the fuck is going? Who is this lady? It was literally such a moment, like, pandemonium. Cholazol is actually Caucasian.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

And she has been the head and president of the naacp.

[Mecca]

And she was getting shit done. That's the key. She was getting shit done.

[Jamila Bell]

Never in my life have I seen someone who is white choose to be black. Like, what the fuck? It was such an insane story. Like, what do you mean? She really did get it.

[Mecca]

And this is also when Twitter was less politically correct.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, for sure.

[Mecca]

So the way n was cutting up on specifically the Twitter timeline when that shit dropped. You know how there's certain nights. The hard er, Navy night with Rihanna, when that couple who was dressed like the 1800s or they had went to a dance. There were certain nights on Twitter that if you were black and weird. Oh, my God, So funny.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Rachel Dolezal's definitely. Absolutely one of them. Nigga Navy.

[Jamila Bell]

The nigger Navy was.

[Mecca]

Was jokes. Why would we act like that? Again, that was.

[Jamila Bell]

Mind you, that was such a. That was such a good time for us to be offended. But that shows you how completely unserious niggas are.

[Mecca]

Yeah, bitch, what the fuck? No, the way that we took that shit and ran. And I mean, jokes that. Oh, remember when Drake from the no New Friends music video, when he was walking. That's why somebody said, oh, y'all just joking on Drake. I'm like, even at the height of Drake's career, niggas were.

[Jamila Bell]

We were laughing. We've always been laughing, like.

[Mecca]

And Drake himself had. Remember, we're photoshopping it into him walking away from different shit. Ugh. So funny. I miss when Twitter was fun. I miss when Twitter was fucking fun.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Collectively.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, y'all don't even understand how fun Twitter used to be.

[Mecca]

Twitter used to be a lot of fun.

[Jamila Bell]

It used to be just pure entertainment foolery. Like, we used to really take it there. But, yeah, I don't know nothing about that. Y'all don't know nothing about that. My favorite. One of my favorite pop culture moments I will never forget. I feel like I watched it evolve into such a cultural moment. Well, obviously, there's a rapist in Lincoln Park. He's climbing through your window, snatching your people up. So you need to hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband. Cause they raping everybody out here. Antwan Johnson was a moment.

[Mecca]

Remember when he. It started off well. Well, him and that red bandana so much. Jamila. I. They had the initial video because it was a new. He was on the news because there really wasn't raping him.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. Like, it was his sister. Somebody literally attempted to rape his sister. Like, that was a real thing. Horrible story.

[Mecca]

But like, they interviewed him and then the news clip was going viral. I saw it on media takeout.com. did the girls even know it Media.

[Jamila Bell]

Or something like that.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And he didn't win.

[Jamila Bell]

It got so viral that they made it into a song. Like and hide your husband. Cause they raping everybody out here. Like, we actually used to spoof and make viral moments into songs all the time. Like, that was a.

[Mecca]

That was like, that's a cringe lame thing.

[Jamila Bell]

No, it used to be a thing.

[Mecca]

And it would be fun.

[Jamila Bell]

Such a thing. It was such a thing. Like, we watched it. Like, that was a phenomenon. It was so crazy that people would take it, right? Take the snippets and they would, you know, make it into, like, memes and stuff. Or they would have T shirts that said different things on it. I'm just like, this is crazy. We. We have really, you know, elevated. And I think even now he has a. He has a platform. I think he's on TikTok. I see him not too long ago. I think he sells cars now or something random. But he's had many different, like, ebbs and flows. Like, it really, like, kind of put him into a certain level. Because I think he ended up having to sue for the song because I think originally he wasn't getting paid.

[Mecca]

Because he didn't get paid. You would know how you did.

[Jamila Bell]

It was a white boy who made it. And so he ended up suing. I think he ended up getting some money afterwards. I'm not really sure on how that all happened, but I remember that being a whole thing too. Like child.

[Mecca]

I believe at one point he found Christ and wasn't gay anymore. If I remember correctly.

[Jamila Bell]

I think he's. He was a black Hebrew Israelite.

[Mecca]

Oh, yes. Yo. Having a Hebrew Israelite character arc in your story. Oh, my God. The evil cues.

[Jamila Bell]

But then later he came out and said that he was bisexual and apologized for the things that he was saying.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila Bell]

He came back home.

[Mecca]

He came back home.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm so glad. Sometimes they get trapped on that Hebrew island. I'm so glad he came back home.

[Mecca]

You know what it is, because, you know, at least. Well, not so much now, but in the early days of TikTok, I used to argue with the Hebrew Israelites, like once a quarter that's obvious.

[Jamila Bell]

And that's dangerous because they will dox you.

[Mecca]

That's how I gave my arch nemesis.

[Jamila Bell]

One or two times.

[Mecca]

She who May Not Be Named Mole. That's how I got my arch nemesis. She's a Hebrew Israelite.

[Jamila Bell]

Careful with them Hebrew Israelites.

[Mecca]

I was talking about that. And this girl in the comments was like, as a former Hebrew Israelite, it really is a pipeline to, like, learning to love your blackness. And then what happens is it's like a stop on the black American self love island. And unfortunately, some people don't ever get off. And that is so t. Like, you're learning all this information. You're like, oh, my God, I love being black. I love being black.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm saying that's why I said, like, when you are transitioning into wanting to be very, like, self aware of blackness, you will take a couple of trips. Hotep island is one of them.

[Mecca]

Hotep Island.

[Jamila Bell]

Hebrew Israelite island is one of them. And sometimes it's really hard to get out of there, but. Cause it seems cool. It seems good at first.

[Mecca]

It's like, ooh, they're calling about, we're not from Africa. We're the first Native Americans. Let me just say the slave ships don't exist.

[Jamila Bell]

Let me say this to those type of blacks out there, you new blacks. We cannot be both Israelites and classic Native Americans at the same time. Now, y'all gonna need to pick an origin story. Y'all need to pick an origin story. Do y'all wanna be Egyptians? Do y'all wanna be the Jews? Or do you wanna be real Native Americans? You're a nigger. God damn it. What? What the fuck are y'all? Like this? This actually, it pisses me off so bad because it's like, which one is it, nigga?

[Mecca]

Because they're on different opposites of the world.

[Jamila Bell]

What are you talking about? We Jews, we Egyptians, we're kings and queens. We are Native Americans. We were never slaves. Africa don't exist. Clearly.

[Mecca]

Like, what the hell is y'all talking about? I. You know, Jasmine is Gullah Geechee. The Carolinas. That's a real Gullah Geechee girl. And when they got on there talking about Gullah Geechee, folks was not hailing from Africa. I said, my sister in Christ, you must. She said, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Are y'all like, okay, see, like, Gullah Geechee are actually so African that they are white recognized by West Africa because out of all of the sex and offshoots of African American, like, people, they maintained Intact, like preserved. Their culture preserved closest to what directly came from West Africa. Gullah Geechee people are black. Like, black. So it's like, what are y'all talking about? Even trying to imply that Gullah Geechee people are. Are the first Native Americans. Go to hell. Please go to hell.

[Jamila Bell]

And I also, I want to understand. I. I really be trying to be empathetic sometimes to stupid people because I. I know it must be very challenging to have all these stupid thoughts in your mind and no one agree. So I always want to try to tap into your mind. Like, what about this makes you, like, why are you so desperate to alienate yourself from real shit that happened? Like, because whether you like it or not, you're not changing the real history. Even if. Even if you want to say, we are the real Jews, what does that change about you being a nigger right now?

[Mecca]

I have a theory. I really do. This is my theory. And I say this as someone who has both Africans and African Americans in my family, specifically from the country Kenya. I think with the rise of the Internet and the rise of diaspora wars, for so long, African Americans have been made to feel sometimes by other diasporas that we are not enough, which is completely untrue. And the reality of the situation is not only were they stealing slaves from Africa, but some of those people were already enslaved. Like, they were literally sold because they were already slaves where they were at. And I feel like it's a need to, like, oh, we're something too. We was here, da da da da. But the reality of the situation, trying to find some belonging amongst everyone else. But the reality of the situation is take pride in the fact that your people were put at the bottom and managed to still come out on top and create one of the most influential, and it cannot be argued, one of the most influential cultures in the planet, in the world. People look to black Americans constantly for style, intellectualism, hello, music, music, acting. And this is not shitting on any of the other diasporas, because I feel like we influence each other. But this is me talking to African Americans who feel like they have to add tens and twenties and dubs on shit and make up shit that didn't happen. Yes, at one point, your people were slaves, and look what they accomplished and look what we've achieved. There should be so much pride. And I mean, I've said this to the Kenyans in my family. You cannot. You cannot use that as like a dunk or an insult to me. I'm take very. I take so much pride in being African American, because I know the history and I know everything that my people overcame to get to the point that we're at, that we can sit here and talk into mics, that we can sit here and people are looking at Beyonce and I'm going to say rza Sza. But that's Brianna's son. You know, like, you have African Americans who literally lead culture full stop.

[Jamila Bell]

We're going to take a break.

[Mecca]

And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

And I think another point that people always never want to address is a lot of the times I'm always so, like, gagged and, like, weak at the fact that a lot of Caribbeans will also try to dunk on African Americans in that way. Because I'm like, you do know that the Caribbean culture is about the same age as African American culture, because we were dropped off around the same time.

[Mecca]

And it was just different bus stops. It was all in the same route.

[Jamila Bell]

They were actually the same, but just different fonts. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course, when you're talking about continental Africans, you know what I'm saying? If anybody got a point, I'll give y'all them points. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay, cool. But Caribbean folk, Caribbean. Black people, Caribbean.

[Mecca]

Part of that comes from the Haitian revolution and how they were able to get their freedom from France.

[Jamila Bell]

And that's great. Y'all definitely had your liberation first. However, y'all were dropped off from Africa as well. So the same way that y'all were dropped off and dropped off from Africa, specifically West Africa most of the time, and were dropped off in the Caribbean islands and created and yalls own identity and culture from the things that y'all had for years and years and years and cultivated y'all's livelihoods from that and at some point gained some level of freedom and liberation. The same happened here. The only difference with black Americans is that our countries did not remain mostly black. That's really the only difference. So you have your Jamaicas and your Honduras and your. All the other Caribbean islands in that.

[Mecca]

You have. They have. You have coolies, you have Chinese Caribbean.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, they still have.

[Mecca]

They have their own version of what.

[Jamila Bell]

We have maintained a level of majority black. That's something that we were never.

[Mecca]

Honestly, they get it from. They get it from people from African countries, too. That again, that could be like a trickle down. Like, they're getting it done to them. So they feel like possibly they can do it to African Americans. Because I've definitely heard the joke that one thing Nigerians will Be like, jamaicans are fake Nigerians.

[Jamila Bell]

Damn.

[Mecca]

But you know, Jamaicans are literally are like us in terms. They can do their. Their ancestry and be like, oh, I'm from. My people from Nigeria. Like that. Because again, the same, the same sex. We're on the same bounds.

[Jamila Bell]

Like y'all all mixy, mixy. Especially, especially them Latina countries. The Latina when we was the Doctor.

[Mecca]

Countries with Spanish, full stop. I knew that the Doctor was a black country simply because, you know, it's an imaginary line that separates the Doctor and Haiti. It's all one island. At one point it was called. I can't think of the name that it used to be called, but it's the line of colorism. But hello, I was. But so I knew all this. I did know this. Nonetheless, I was still gagged when I got off the plane in the Doctor. I was gagged at how black. Like, gagged. Like, no, no, no, gagged. It's like you, you can know the knowledge. You can do the knowledge. Shout out to deontay. But I feel like seeing the knowledge in real, in real time and in person, it still takes you aback. Like, look, being in an airport and seeing no white people and not just. Not just, I know, black eyed Dominican. I'm talking dark skinned black people. Yeah. I was like, oh, the trans. I remember I made that TikTok that went super duper viral. I said, I ain't gonna lie to y'all. The transatlantic slave trade was getting busy in Dr. And these niggas is fine as fuck. Mm.

[Jamila Bell]

Fine as fuck. They're us and we are you like in this cha cha cha.

[Mecca]

Same way we do the cha cha slide. Y'all do the kakukaranja. Let's cha cha together.

[Jamila Bell]

Everything is so very mixy mixy, but the same way a lot of black Americans, when you do their, you know, your DNA ancestry, you're gonna have traces of West African, European and native indigenous American. That's going to be very similar to those who are in the Caribbean islands or in those like the, you know, the Central America. Damn.

[Mecca]

Like Honduras Central. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Like all of them little.

[Mecca]

Them little pink persons black as fuck too. Yeah, all of them.

[Jamila Bell]

If you trace their ancestry, it's going to be the same thing. A lot of West Africa indigenous, but they're indigenous like the Aztecs and stuff like that. And then of course the Spaniards, which is the Caucasian, they have the very like, they have the same DNA breakup that we do.

[Mecca]

You can tell the difference. That was the other thing about the Doctor. You can tell the Spanish influence versus the Anglo Saxon British influence in them and that their colonizers were different. It was like they were black. But I'm like, no, no, no. The white people y'all were colonized by were Spaniards. And you could see the. That was like the biggest. I was like, But I can tell y'all not African. I can tell y'all are like, okay, yeah. And I just think that's so interesting, like, feature wise, you get what I'm saying? Because if we're going to West Africa, you can tell a Nigerian. You can tell, like, a Ghanaian and based on features. And then once you start trickling out into the different Caribbean countries, you can see that in African Americans. But you see the Anglo Saxon influence. So whether it's like high cheekbones, lips, nose, then it's like, you go to the doctor, possibly Haiti. It's like, you see that. But it's like, ah, a more Spaniard influence in the cheeks and nose. It's like, you know, we're all diet West African. We're all diet Nigerians.

[Jamila Bell]

Moral of the story is it's so mixy. Mixy. And. And you.

[Mecca]

And that's why Nigerians act like that. You act like we create all this.

[Jamila Bell]

We create all this. Which is so funny because it's like there are other West African countries. I don't know if Nigerians know that. Like, I don't. Like, do y'all. Do y'all know that Nigeria acts like it is the capital of Africa? Like, did y'all know that there were other West African countries other than Nigeria?

[Mecca]

It's because I just feel like Nigerians go everywhere.

[Jamila Bell]

What's the joke? Nigerians. I want to. That Nigerian pride is something serious. They do not play, baby. That Nigerian pride is so strong. They do not play by their country, baby.

[Mecca]

Okay?

[Jamila Bell]

Period. Shout out to the Nigerian pride.

[Mecca]

Catch me back.

[Jamila Bell]

What are the. What is it? Ebo and Yoruba? Bitch, please.

[Mecca]

Is that what it is?

[Jamila Bell]

Yoruba and Igbo. Yoruba and Igbo. Shout out to my cousin to the calabar. I don't know which I am. I never did my ancestry, so I don't know which West African countries I come from.

[Mecca]

Portia said she found out that she was Igbo. So I was gonna say I didn't know it. Took it as far as telling you exactly what tribe.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, I want to know all the things I'm gonna do. I know they say, don't do it, y'all. I'm not a murderer, okay? No, Shade, I'm gonna do the DNA test, okay? Y'all ain't gonna find it on me. I ain't gonna.

[Mecca]

It's okay.

[Jamila Bell]

I ain't. No. Let me tell y'all how I was so terrified for two years straight.

[Mecca]

What was you terrified of? What you scared of?

[Jamila Bell]

For two years straight, I was secretly terrified because I kept having this reoccurring dream that I had, like, murdered somebody. And I just thought that somebody was gonna figure it out.

[Mecca]

That's insane, Jamila.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't.

[Mecca]

You kidding me.

[Jamila Bell]

But I literally. No, but I really thought I did. For a second. I'm like, am I tripping? Because my dreams are so vivid, y'all. I got really, really, really vivid dreams. So I would wake up and be like. And sometimes the flash was just. I'm like, did I kill somebody? But I didn't kill nobody, y'all. It was just my dream. And I'm like, what the hell? I think myself in a different universe killed somebody. And I got some of her memories. I hope she don't get caught.

[Mecca]

Girl.

[Jamila Bell]

And I know exactly where she hid the body. I know exactly where she hit the body. Like, that's the thing. Like, if. If I ever get. You know, I don't know. I know what she hit the body. And I hope she don't get caught. But she was. She was very terrified. I think that's what happened to myself in another universe. I killed somebody.

[Mecca]

A parallel reality.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. And I buried. I buried that man in a garden.

[Mecca]

You're saying too much. You're saying too much. You already know. It's a man. He's in a garden.

[Jamila Bell]

It was. I was.

[Mecca]

Don't tell us how you did it.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my gosh. Like, did I do this? But it wasn't me. Like, I could never kill nobody.

[Mecca]

I shout out to Shaggy. It wasn't me. So. All right, is it time to spin it?

[Jamila Bell]

Yes.

[Mecca]

All right. While Jamila's pulling up the letter, this is our segment. Spin it. Now. What we need you guys to do is to save your low down, messy gutter snipe situations to nhinged anymore. [e-mail], we'll possibly read them. Now. We want to keep full disclaimer. Jamil and I are not PR professionals. We just studied it in college. And we like to give a little spinny spin. Spin. Um, don't forget to include your ages. Do you have pulled up, Jameela? Cause your ages matter.

[Jamila Bell]

Your age absolutely matters. All right, y'all, let's get right into it. The title of this is. Please tell me what I should do and that we will. Hey, Mecca and Jameela. This may be a long one. I'm 19 in college and I need y'all to spin this because I feel like I got played and I need some sense knocked into me or something. I met this guy last February. Call him drew. I was 18 and he was 19.

[Mecca]

We was lack good information to have.

[Jamila Bell]

Thank you. That also matters sometimes.

[Mecca]

It does, it does.

[Jamila Bell]

All right. We weren't officially dating, but we established that we were together. Okay, baby. Everything was fine.

[Mecca]

Oh, they established a situationship. Well, that's some 18, 19 year old shit.

[Jamila Bell]

That's his.

[Mecca]

Okay, baby. Yeah, okay.

[Jamila Bell]

Everything was fine for a few months. We were going on dates, spending every other weekend together. And we were really. I was really there for him while he was going through a lot, like getting kicked out by his mom and feeling hopeless. But after my birthday, July 7, I told him how I was feeling, about how distant he was getting. And instead of talking it out, he just ghosted me. A couple months later, September, I ran into him at a party and he texted me after I left with nothing but a sorry. We started talking again, like he wanted to pick up where we left off. And then, like clockwork, he ghosted again.

[Mecca]

Fast forward.

[Jamila Bell]

I move on. To be honest, I get niggas, so that's not a problem. But I see him at another party in October, this time with two girls, and he literally hides from me. What's sus is they was all looking in my direction while he was ducking. I let it go and I move on with my life. New year comes around. I'm doing okay, but I'm thinking about him heavily. Then this past Valentine's Day, I check his Instagram. Big mistake. He had fully popped out with this girl and was like, just. That was just his friend. Back when we were together, they got each other's names in their bios, showing mad love. And a few days later, on his birthday, February 19, she was celebrating with him and his family. Like, they've been silent for a while now. Here's what's really messing me up. This wasn't some casual thing. This man cried to me, open. I'm sorry, sis, I don't mean to laugh. Opened up to me, took me out, introduced me to friends and family and made me feel special. And yet, once he finally got his shit together, he dropped me and went straight to her. Not only did he go straight to her, he's been doing everything that I wanted for us with her. Like, what the fuck? I know I got played, but why? And what is my next move? Because I'm having that why didn't he choose me ass mindset, which I know I shouldn't. Baby, if this ain't a tale as.

[Mecca]

Old as Tom, I was gonna say. Oh, little sister, little sister. Oh, that baby done got her milk. Finally.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh.

[Mecca]

Ah. Well, it happened. This is something that you definitely have to experience to know how to get through it the next time. Cause I'm not gonna meet Mr. Coda. This probably won't be the last time. You said you 19.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, no, this is not the last time, so.

[Mecca]

But the first time, it definitely hurts. It cuts deep. You're like, why not me? What did I do wrong? Like, I definitely. Oh, I remember the exact nigga who did this to me. Ugh.

[Jamila Bell]

Literally at the same age.

[Mecca]

18, 19.

[Jamila Bell]

More than once. So I remember every N that did this to me. Actually, you know what's interesting is what lesson this is going to teach you the most is that you are not in a relationship with a man until y'all explicitly say you are. Because the moment you said to me, we weren't in a relationship. But we had to understand to be clear. No, you didn't, Mama. No, you didn't. Y'all didn't make shit clear other than y'all was fucking raw, which you shouldn't be having sex.

[Mecca]

And you make sure you're getting tested.

[Jamila Bell]

And you were feeling very lustful, and you felt like, ooh, I like him. And we go on, and I met some of his friends, and he's so cute, and I love him, and I like him. And we sex and we cuddle after sex, and he likes me.

[Mecca]

And he cried, lay there in the fluids and let them marinate on us.

[Jamila Bell]

Let me tell you something. The first time a man cries to you, you really. It really does feel special.

[Mecca]

Because you think you feel like somebody.

[Jamila Bell]

You really feel like you wipe that tear. Wow. Because you internalize that lie. That men are not emotional and they don't cry. When, in fact, you will come to realize very quickly them cry all the goddamn time.

[Mecca]

Yeah. About a lot of things.

[Jamila Bell]

About a lot of things. And they're very emotional. So you think because that man cried to you that you're different and you're special when. No, you were just there.

[Mecca]

Unfortunately, sister, we all have this. But not everyone has your pussy. And most importantly, not everyone has your brain and your personality and your soul. Not every bitch is you. And it's clear that you were not the one for this young man. That does not mean you're not the one for someone. And that does not mean you are not worthy. So I understand that this is something that you're gonna have to feel those emotions because, like, we're reminiscing that first time of you, that rejection hits. You just gotta work through that. But feel. Feel everything this first time around. Because the next time it happens, you will know going into it, this has nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. And like Jamila just said, you have learned the lesson. Don't you do no girlfriend shit to no nigga who's not your boyfriend. Don't you do. Now we a little bit older. Don't you do no wife shit for no nigga that's not your husband. For the older ones. Okay, you having that understanding? Cool. If we just fucking. We just fucking. And I promise you what you need, the muscle that you need to exercise, is that pussy. You need to kegel. You need to kegel. But you also need to exercise if you gonna be outside and humping and hunching. You need to know how to fucking get the fuck on.

[Jamila Bell]

Yes.

[Mecca]

Make sure you're getting tested and you not fucking these niggas raw. Because these niggas are moving a certain way. He was a goddamn lie. He liked that girl. That whole time he was fucking with you, he was waiting for her to get ready. And the moment she got ready, he. He did what he did. He dropped you. He got with her.

[Jamila Bell]

You're going to get to the point where you realize, actually, I didn't really like you like that. It's just irritating to me that I wasn't the one chosen. And sometimes that's what it is. Sometimes it's not even a guy. It's just. It's like, damn, why you ain't choose me? You don't even. You don't even want him like that because you had your legs up in the air like this.

[Mecca]

I was going, megan, with my legs in the air. You.

[Jamila Bell]

You told me yourself you get niggas and you've been moved on several times from him. You're not. It's not him. You're not. You have your pride. Yes. You're like, my puss is better than hers. I'm the funniest bitch he ever met. Bitch, I'm so cute. I get Nick caught with Belly. Why would he not lock me down? Because he don't like you like that. And that's okay. He doesn't like him like that either. Cause if y'all did.

[Mecca]

Y'all would be together, right? Y'all wouldn't have had an understanding on a situationship. You would have had understanding on a relationship.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, hello. Hello, Hello. We want something just to say we had it.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you don't really like that. You don't give a damn.

[Jamila Bell]

You don't y'all.

[Mecca]

And the reason it hurt looking at his page was because that was a blow to your ego. Yep, it was a blow to your ego.

[Jamila Bell]

That used to be one of your niggas.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Damn, you got a big. Hold on now.

[Mecca]

It happens to the best of us. I hate when a who I used to like on go get a bit like, oh, okay.

[Jamila Bell]

And you don't mind you. I'm not gonna lie to this day. Sometimes you'll see a. That's like. And I ain't even like that, but. Oh, now gotta be.

[Mecca]

Oh, now you want to do right by a.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, all right, all right, all right, now.

[Mecca]

Want to get cuffed up? All right.

[Jamila Bell]

You don't even like that. It's just. It just be kind of like that sometimes. I don't know.

[Mecca]

Call back from last week. How you think I felt with someone? Girlfriend I was fucking on casually said, oh, this was my end. Well, he told me he ain't want no girlfriend. What the hell going on?

[Jamila Bell]

And the fact we sitting up here.

[Mecca]

Looking just like each other, looking like evil twins. Oh, nigga, you ain't worth a damn.

[Jamila Bell]

You think that like that.

[Mecca]

You know, it be a little bit. You got it. But you gotta get your ego about that shit. You feel me? That girl ain't do nothing to you. You ain't gotta hate on that girl, you know, Go get you a. Go get you a better nigga. And that's how you would do this shit. Now, if you like me, I'd have blocked him. Honestly, until I didn't give a fuck no more. But if you want a PR spin, what you need to do is just make sure you're living your best life. One thing about niggas, they do the same thing we do. Don't let them niggas lie to you. They be on that profile. Don't let these niggas lie to you. I got a brother. They be checking that profile. Or they have their homeboys check that profile. See how you doing, they be keeping their tabs. The best thing you could do is live your life and live your life unapologetically. Yes.

[Jamila Bell]

But don't post yourself pushing. Don't be trying to do that shit where you try to Post to make it seem like, oh, I just don't give a fuck.

[Mecca]

Like, no, no, that's too much.

[Jamila Bell]

We can always tell when you're trying to post as if you don't give a damn, sister. And that is the most. That's the most I give a damn shit you could ever do.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't just be regular like you said you uncovered.

[Mecca]

What you doing in college. I'm getting good grades. I'm having fun. I'm going to the party. I don't even care about the niggas.

[Jamila Bell]

Because like every other week, mute his shit. If you don't. If you don't. If you the type of person that don't want to create bad blood or you don't want to block or whatever, just mute him. You won't see this shit. And you can kind of just that way you can kind of keep the follow. And it's like, it ain't no beef. It's just. I don't want to see that shit, nigga. I don't want to see with no. Yeah, you know, you don't need no advice, girl. You need some new. But clearly you said you got no problem.

[Mecca]

But like, like, she said she needed to talk through it because she had her ego hit. And we all been there. We all been there.

[Jamila Bell]

And it's like, I, I, you know, I just remember she was 19, sister. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yeah. And. And your ego get hit again, Full disclosure, it's gonna get hit again.

[Jamila Bell]

And I was gonna say, and it might get hit worse. I.

[Mecca]

You took the words off. I said, cause it's gonna be a nigga you like more. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

And it's gonna be the same exact thing. The next is gonna happen to. It might be the nigga you actually really like, and you gonna really be sick. Like, what the fuck?

[Mecca]

God damn.

[Jamila Bell]

And then you gonna. Then you gonna start thinking to yourself, if I like you, why the fuck you don't like me? That don't make no goddamn sense.

[Mecca]

And when you. And when you have to work through those feelings, let me tell you, sister, this, we gonna. We gonna spend this. But we gonna prepare you for the next time this happens. Because the next time this happens, you might actually fuck around and be in love. And let me. The this time not gonna make you know how to handle next time. But the next time it happens, when you really love the nigga and he hurts your feelings, that after you experience that unstoppable. You see, you know, how. What is it? You gotta have a few chinks in your arm, a little Experience with war to know how to like, move the next time to bully. Like, you know, you don't know to move because you just have to experience it coming at you. The next time you gonna be in love and he gonna do that. And when you see him pop out with that bitch, you might actually throw up. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's gonna be more than I'm writing in to. Unhinged, immoral.

[Jamila Bell]

It's gonna be like, what the fuck? Like, you're gonna be if you anything like me. And once you realize nothing that you can do to change that goddamn.

[Mecca]

Fuck.

[Jamila Bell]

It just is what it is. But I'm telling you now, as you get older and you get more experience, I'm all for dating experience. Dating is. Is good because it gives you experience. That way the more you date, the more enjoyable it is. Dating now is way more enjoyable than it was when I was fucking 18 and 19 because I took everything so seriously. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm talking to these boys. I'm gonna only talk to him so he can see that I'm gonna be a good girlfriend. I'm gonna be so loyal. I'm only talking to him. That dumb ass bitch dog these days, dumb.

[Mecca]

Have you ever. Have you ever really liked a nigga, sister? I'm about to. I'm about to tell my auntie, have you ever liked a nigga? Damn near been in love with a nigga. You just saw the Instagram. You ain't seen him out in person with a bitch. And you. And you gotta stay. Cause you outside at the club so your face can't crack in public, listen. And you gotta thug it out and act like you having a good time. Whole time you wanna fucking throw up.

[Jamila Bell]

It's like, yeah, let me just.

[Mecca]

Oh, my God, you're gonna go home and eat her ass tonight the way you would eat my ass. What the fuck?

[Jamila Bell]

Like, wow, that used to be me.

[Mecca]

Give me three more shots because I don't know what the fuck I'm on tonight. And sometimes you fuck up and you be talking to other niggas and you don't even want to talk to them niggas. You want to go over them there and talk to that nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

I want that one.

[Mecca]

That's my over there with another picture. I have to go get him. But you can't go over there and talk to him because you're gonna look like a motherfucking ass.

[Jamila Bell]

And you could. And let me tell you this, it's the. You Bet not ever. If you're going to be a loyal listener of unhinged immoral, y'all listen to me and listen to me well. You bet not. Never be the bitch to press a nigga about another bitch in public or ever. Let it go.

[Mecca]

Let it.

[Jamila Bell]

You're not going to. Unless that's your actual nigga, as in your boyfriend, right?

[Mecca]

You.

[Jamila Bell]

Then you keep.

[Mecca]

You got a friend like me, I'm going to be like, let's go, let's go.

[Jamila Bell]

You better not go press no little girl or no little boy. Uh, don't you call me.

[Mecca]

Cause that little girl don't know about you. And you're just like, you didn't know about that little girl.

[Jamila Bell]

You are going to look crazy. Crazy.

[Mecca]

And as someone who has looks crazy. Listen, Jameela, not the crazy friend I am. I'm just. Jamila don't press people. I do, but let me tell you, learn the lesson. Now, you don't have, like, learn from. When older girls be telling y'all this. It really. Well, you did it. It's not because we hate. It's because we trying to save you a little bit of. Just a little bit. A little bit of something. Learn to walk away. Because you're gonna eventually learn to walk away anyway. So if you. If you exercise that muscle early on, it will be so easy. It's easy for me to do it now because I've been doing it for years at this point, but when I was your age, I pressed niggas and I used to look insane and almost okay with that. And I've. No.

[Jamila Bell]

If you press, but you're gonna feel like it doesn't make sense because it's not going to change anything. That's what we. Because it's like all the pressing you're doing, it's going to do one of two things. One is going to put you in a cycle of some toxic bullshit, and it's just going to drain you out. Or it's not going to change a motherfucking thing, and you just wasting your goddamn time. Now you're embarrassed. And he's still with the bitch and the girl. He's still doing what he doing. And he.

[Mecca]

You are going to get a reputation. Now, again, if you're willing to press someone, you probably don't give a fuck. And I'm only saying this because I remember how I used to think, bitch, I don't give a fuck, bitch is talking about. Right? But in a few years, you know, when you get older, you will start to give a because post 25, that is not cute. Hello, it's not cute. Oh, to be grown as in the club pressing and they on a date, you look nuts and if it gets too far, you might be escorted out. Hello, it's not cute. And being escorted out the club ain't nothing pretty. I know you want to experience.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't want that.

[Mecca]

Yeah, learn to walk away now and learn to. I don't wanna say learn to dog these niggas, but learn to do what these niggas do to you. Yeah, take it you're at the age where dating is not that serious. You said you get niggas, just learn how to take them.

[Jamila Bell]

Look, like in an unethical way, it's just like, hey, I'm dating you and I'm enjoying your time. But at the same time, I understand that we are not in an exclusive identifiable relationship. So my options are open, as I'm sure yours are.

[Mecca]

And advice for real, because one thing I think we downplay situationships and when I say we downplay situationships, there's no way you could spend extended amounts of time with someone every single day for multiple months and not develop feelings and some type of care for them. One thing I do, I care about my niggas. I don't give a. And you're not going to make me feel bad for it. Yeah, I care about you. I care about your well being.

[Jamila Bell]

What the fuck? I feel bad about having feelings for someone. Having feelings for somebody is not bad. Like, I don't know why everybody is so anti having feelings. Like, oh my gosh, I'm having feelings.

[Mecca]

Like, I have so many feelings.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm gonna have feelings. Like, if I like you, it's cool. Like, it doesn't mean that I need to allow those feelings to make me make bad decisions, though.

[Mecca]

However, comma, make sure you have multiple niggas so that you are not crossing boundaries based on those feelings and when you know and when you are very good in exercising because the only way you're gonna get good at this is if you date exercising boundaries. Regardless of your feelings, I promise you, your life gets easy. Like Jameela said, dating gets fun because it allows you to fully enjoy every nigga you're with. If I'm able to stay here, like, confidently, of course I care about you. What are we talking about? Every time I sit down with you, I know I'm gonna have max amount of fun. And when I'm not with you, if I'm dating around, I know the moment we're not with each other. That shit gets turned off. Compartmentalization is the name of the game. Some people will call this avoided attachment style. I call it survival.

[Jamila Bell]

It's all in the name of the game. You better flourish, you young grasshopper. Flourish. Flourish.

[Mecca]

And make sure you're getting tested every three months or after every partner.

[Jamila Bell]

Hello.

[Mecca]

We're working on sexual health initiatives right now.

[Jamila Bell]

Blood test two. Yeah. Gucci swab and blood.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Full workup.

[Mecca]

Full workup.

[Jamila Bell]

Make sure you go to your annual. Make sure you get your pap smears. Make sure you check out that pelvic.

[Mecca]

Yeah. You notice Jamila and I have been doing a lot of sexual health. I don't want to call it. What would be female, not women's. Because you can be. You can have women organs and not be a woman.

[Jamila Bell]

Female health is very important to me. I am obsessed with coochie health. Y'all know this.

[Mecca]

If you have a coochie, I'm talking to you.

[Jamila Bell]

I am obsessed with coochie hills because there's so many things that could go awry. Poor coochie.

[Mecca]

I mean, honestly, babe, your discharge is just a bit thicker. You could have a yeast infection. And that doesn't come from fussing. That comes from. It could be a plethora of things.

[Jamila Bell]

It could be your body wash. It could be your panties.

[Mecca]

Yeah, your panties could be too tight and you can get a yeast infection. I feel like, you know, because of sexual stigma, we don't like. We don't want to touch that because that means you dirty in some way, bitch. Your coochie is fighting for its life. Your discharge looks like fucking froth. Coffee cream.

[Jamila Bell]

Vaginas are open to the world.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you need to really be checking on your good girl.

[Jamila Bell]

You must be keeping that look you. Have y'all looked at y'all coochie's lately?

[Mecca]

Do you look at her in the mirror?

[Jamila Bell]

Have you ever seen her? Do you know what she looks like? How would you know if something was different? Take a look. Get a mirror right now. Put it in front of your vagina, Open your labia majora and take a peekaboo and just stare at her for a moment so you can understand what it looks like.

[Mecca]

You might be a little scared at first. You might.

[Jamila Bell]

And look at it.

[Mecca]

Peel. Peel back the labia because the labia might be covering the vagina. Peel back the.

[Jamila Bell]

You need to be looking in that thing and all around it, because again, how else will you know, something change? You should be looking at your body all the time, especially women of Certain ages.

[Mecca]

Squeeze those knots. You need to be massaging in the shower. This is real. This is real all the way to your armpit.

[Jamila Bell]

You don't know.

[Mecca]

They're not hearing you. They're not hearing you.

[Jamila Bell]

You can develop breast cancer in the pit because all of those lymph nodes and things connected all up and through. Squeeze your tits. Feel them. There are. You know, look in the mirror and look.

[Mecca]

Look at those nipples.

[Jamila Bell]

Is that how those nipples looked three days ago?

[Mecca]

Bibi and Cece, is your areola getting bigger? That's something that happens with age. Shout out to all the pepperoni nippled ladies.

[Jamila Bell]

Say, my areolas are large.

[Mecca]

Solidarity.

[Jamila Bell]

Just if anybody I know, Some women feel like the niggas love a pepperoni nipple. Some ladies feel a little bit of. What is the word? Not discomfort. Maybe a little self conscious about their large areolas. Don't.

[Mecca]

Why? It's sexy.

[Jamila Bell]

Big Areola gang. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Put all that areola in your mouth, nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, I love it.

[Mecca]

Open wide. I'm going to need the max space.

[Jamila Bell]

Just like Cardi B. Cardi B. Areola always popping out is so relatable. Can't. Some shirts we. Some shirts for Big Areola Girls don't work for us. I've been looking at them skinny mini bathing suits like, well, where's the hell? Oh, I can't do that.

[Mecca]

That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. Y'all gonna see the pink, like, nanny they said they was talking about. I had a nip slip. And I can see. Cause it was a shadow of my dress. And my mama even texted me like, is this a nip slip? And I was like, no, it's just the shadow. And my mom was like, okay. Because I was like, your nipples have never been that dark. Like, girl, get out.

[Jamila Bell]

My nipples get out.

[Mecca]

First of all, you watch it from a burning page. I'm gonna block you again.

[Jamila Bell]

Stop. You know she got to watch Cham Chow. Well, all right. Let's get into some of these comments and reviews. We're gonna take a break.

[Mecca]

And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, y'all, you already know what the deal is. Make sure y'all are commenting, engaging with the content so that we can, you know, make sure we know what's going on, what you guys like, what you guys are not liking, and it just really helps. But also, we just really enjoy reading Yalls feedback. It just. It just makes it better, you know? Okay, so I'm going to read some of the reviews from you Spotify. All right? This is from Essie Bookie. The way I screamed when Mecca said I be having my glasses on because saying I send artwork, you gonna see me lol and you gonna send me something back, period. Okay, y'all better be requesting back nut video.

[Mecca]

That's what you need to request.

[Jamila Bell]

Coco said the dementia part should not be as funny as it was, but as someone who has had close family members with it, this is exactly how it is. It's hard being a caregiver sometimes, so you just face. You have to just laugh. I hope Peter's doing okay.

[Mecca]

Child.

[Jamila Bell]

I've been thinking about PETA nonstop.

[Mecca]

We need to find PETA.

[Jamila Bell]

PETA. I've been thinking about PETA nonstop. Chile says it was a little hard to hear the reading of the spin it in email, but the commentary afterwards was sublime. Yeah, I think my mouth kept moving away from the microphone. I'm sorry. Y'all keep doing your thing. Ladies will do at Kaylee said Mecca talking about Peter and her dad cracked me up, child.

[Mecca]

That.

[Jamila Bell]

That damn. That damn Sacramento came up out of her motherfucking daddy. She actually was not like she was from Oakland. I'm like, damn, my dad's in the bay.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like, she pulled out that fucking Oakland ass egg accent. All right. This is from Kylie Price, 88. I really enjoy Yalls banter. The Meech episode was so good. And regarding the TikTok nonsense, Jamila them people y'all are funny at Nichelle Stevens said, I just read about the house and then I started listening to your podcast. So happy you two were there to bear the. To bear the witness to this wonderful event. It was such a great opportunity. I'm so glad we were there as well.

[Mecca]

Literally. So good. Okay, I will be reading the YouTube comments and Daniel Nolan 5749 said, I be having my glasses on. I'll be having my glasses on when I'm too sometime but sometimes I take them off. I'll be ending. I don't even see unless. But you know, if you get too much in business, get foggy so then you gotta take them off. Ayanna H. Gail9872 said, the way Mecca looked at the camera at 6 minutes and 58 seconds was like her breaking the fourth wall. I'm getting better at looking in the camera like Jamila. I've really been trying. Thank you for noticing. Um, Adriamarie O2 said, There are so many gems in this episode. I've been in tears this whole time. Definitely the highlight of my Week. Oh, my God. Thank you, girl. NMizzle7113 said, I'm only 10 minutes in. Enjoying the conversation so far, but Jamila, baby, you got me barking at my phone. You look so fucking Good.

[Jamila Bell]

Woo. Okay.

[Mecca]

Mil, Bruce, Lisa 9953 said, Love y'all chemistry. I know you guys went to school together, but did you ever have the same classes? I can only imagine how y'all used to cut up. Would we have like one class together? Did we Butler Jack.

[Jamila Bell]

I don't think we had him together, though.

[Mecca]

Oh, maybe that was with.

[Jamila Bell]

No, we had. We both had Butler, but we didn't have him in class together. Nah, we didn't. We never had class together.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say if. That. If it wasn't that we didn't have one.

[Jamila Bell]

We had similar classes because we had a. We had similar track, but we didn't.

[Mecca]

Have the same schedule. Does that make sense? So we both had Jack101, which is a scripts thing. Okay, I'm going off a tangent. Kiera Bra, Brabham819 said, this episode had me weak. Mecca, you brave for the face in the photos. Let me click.

[Jamila Bell]

This ain't she though, child. I'm trying to tell y'all. I'm like Jamila, at this point, if y'all don't realize that Mecca is crazy. I don't know, like, every week she drops another nugget to let you know the type of brand of crazy that this is.

[Mecca]

Like, I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. I don't give a fuck if you see my in my news. Talking to y'all like. I'm like Jamila. No face, no case. I'm also glad to hear the whole it's not Christlike to kick your kids out for who they are and love. Folks want to be holier than thou, but really live in hypocrisy. I know that's right. And then Yatta333 said, I love when y'all in the same place to film. This might be my favorite episode to date. Mecca talking about her dad and family sends me because I'm from California too, and it sounds just like my people. I knew you was from California from the fact that your name is Iyada. Free yada, period. All right, do we have any church announcements?

[Jamila Bell]

Yes, I do have an event this Saturday. If you are located in Atlanta and you are a creative, or even if you're not a creative, it'll be a dope event. I'm hosting a listening party for My artist, Audie. And if you guys know Audie, you do, because she writes and recorded our theme song to the podcast. But she is dropping her EP finally. And so we are having a listening event this Saturday, April 12, on Peter Street. So if you are familiar with Atlanta, you know exactly where Peters street is gonna be on 333 Peter street at Peter street station. We are actually collaborating with poetry on Peter, so it's super, super dope. I can't wait to do that. And you guys are gonna hear some amazing, amazing music, and it's gonna be a good collaborative event. Also networking. So we're gonna. We're inviting everybody who's in the music industry and things like that. So it'll be a great time for y'all to connect. And. Yeah, so pull up.

[Mecca]

Also, if you are in Da Nair, California, which is by, like, Turlock, Modesto area, my cousin's actually opening up a restaurant. The grand opening is on the 11th, which is this upcoming Friday. It's from 11am to 7pm It's. He has like, a food truck, Curbside Eatery. But now they have, you know, expanded doing big things. So from the, like, soul food, like, he does hibachi, black hibachi. You know how black people have to dig some shit up. Hibachi, garlic, you know, the good shit.

[Jamila Bell]

The good shit.

[Mecca]

A lot of seafood, a lot of, like, he does different thing on different days. Like I said, he had a really successful food truck and now they have their restaurant space. So it is at 4332 Main Street Diner, California. And that zip code is 95316. And so, yeah, Curbside Eatery and Things is the name of the restaurant. So definitely go out, support him if you're in the area. I think Darrington's gonna go. I was gonna say my whole family is actually going to be there if you end up going. So you will meet my people. I think my brother's. My brother is definitely gonna go. You will be able to see the people crazier than me.

[Jamila Bell]

Other than that, I don't think we have any other announcements this week. Maybe we'll have some next week.

[Mecca]

All right, well, thank you guys for listening. Don't forget to, like, comment and subscribe. We are dropping another Insecure Rewatch Patreon episode. We. We rewatched it. We just haven't. What is this? Recorded it. So that might be a bigger episode because it's going to be more episodes included. So don't forget to. To subscribe to our Patreon. It's $3 and it's in both me and Jam. Bios?

[Jamila Bell]

Yes. Love you guys. Talk to you next week. Bye.

[Mecca]

Bye.

[Jamila Bell]

Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca.

[Mecca]

Produced by Melissa D. Mont and Diamond.

[Jamila Bell]

Imprint Productions, post production by Coco Lawrence.

[Mecca]

Production assistant by Melanie D. Watson, music.

[Jamila Bell]

By Adi and Brooklyn Billionaires and graphics by Claudia Choi.