Pass The P***Y | Unhinged & Immoral Podcast EP 56

Summary

Unhinged & Immoral Podcast EP 56: “Pass The P***Y”

Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Date: January 29, 2026
Podcast Network: Diamond MPrint Productions
Theme: Wild internet gossip, pop culture, hilarious personal stories, and unfiltered commentary from zillenial best friends with a PR twist.

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Episode Overview

In “Pass The P***y,” Jamila and Mecca return from a brief hiatus, jumping straight into the messier corners of Black party culture, tales of “safe space” game nights gone wild, and the fine line between camaraderie and over-sharing. The pair weave in hot commentary about ICE, civil rights, internal Black community debates on activism fatigue, and even dish personal updates about body image and upcoming surgeries. Listener letters get the PR-spin treatment, with advice on love triangles and complicated breakups. As always, the hosts’ wit and sharp observational humor anchor the episode, making it both juicy and thought-provoking.

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Major Discussion Segments & Timestamps

1. Back from Hiatus: Technical Difficulties & Catching Up (00:57–03:30)

• Jamila and Mecca humorously update listeners on their absence—Jamila’s bout with food poisoning and the chaos of recurring technical issues.
• Banter about reneging on their “January hiatus” (“Zero days without unhinged, immoral technical difficulties” – Mecca, 01:30).
• Commentary on how the audience reacted (or didn’t) to their break.

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2. Card Games, Black Parties, & “Pass The P*y”** (03:31–10:56)

• The importance of home gatherings and the lost traditions of games like spades and dominoes in Black culture.
• “The camaraderie of the Black community... actual spades table is too much pressure.” – Mecca (03:26)
• Discussion of “pass the [p***y]” and other risqué party games, with hilarious stories of secrets overshared at game nights.
• Memorable party moment: A guest revealing an affinity for “being shitted on” and the group’s collective shock.
  • “I felt really bad… We had created a sense of security.” – Mecca (08:51)
  • “He never came back to another party.” – Jamila (10:42)
• Insight into the sacredness and dangers of oversharing during these “safe space” games.

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3. Kinky Confessions: Would You Take the Money? (11:01–14:12)

• Inspired by an Ari & Carisha Please interview, Jamila and Mecca debate if there’s any amount of money they’d accept to be defecated on.
• The visceral disgust and humor underscore deeper points about personal boundaries and social shame.
  • “I don't think there’s a price. Like, I sat and I ruminated on this…” – Mecca (12:39)
  • “Every answer is the wrong answer… Look what money make a dog do…” – Jamila (11:44)

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4. Deep Dive: ICE, Police Brutality, & Systemic Injustice (14:13–28:48)

• Rant on ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), its misplaced power, and recent abuses.
  • “I have never, ever, ever in my life given a fuck about immigration… it's all just white man's paperwork.” – Jamila (14:31)
  • “Why are y’all so pressed about whether somebody is a citizen?” – Jamila (14:33)
• Discussion of the killing of US citizens, masked officers, and shocking ICE misconduct, including arresting children.
• Broader conversation about immigration policy, bureaucratic cruelty, and their effects on Black and immigrant communities.
• Commentary on the sudden outrage among white liberals when ICE abuses impact their communities:
  • “Y’all keep forgetting it's a lot of white liberals... White people are conditioned they could do whatever the fuck they want.” – Mecca (20:02)
  • “White people like wake up and be like, what the fuck bro, like, they can’t do this. And we’d be like, right, right.” – Jamila (22:00)

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5. Cosplaying Activism: Black Panther Nostalgia & New Movements (24:01–30:16)

• Critique of online “New Black Panther” cosplayers (especially white allies) and the difference between showing support and hijacking Black spaces.
  • “White bitches, no, you can't join the Black Panthers. Go form Crack a Barrel or something.” – Jamila (24:01)
• The problem of nostalgia overshadowing the need for new Black organizations and activism:
  • “We're so obsessed with revamping and rebooting… it's stifling new creativity.” – Mecca (27:38)
  • “Everyone wants to be Malcolm, nobody wants to be Bayard Rustin.” – Jamila (29:28)
• Encouragement for genuine involvement in community organizations and support roles rather than performative activism.

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6. Activism Fatigue & Internet Debates on “Doing the Work” (30:27–39:07)

• Jamila addresses controversy over her viral TikTok video questioning people who claim they’re “tired of doing the work” for Black liberation but aren’t actually active.
  • “If you’re not an organizer... what exactly are you tired of doing?” – Jamila (30:38)
• Analysis of “listen to react vs. listen to receive” culture online.
• The anxiety/guilt some feel when called out for not doing enough and the importance of honesty about one’s own activism.
  • “Everybody wants to flip it on me and cuss me out. It’s not easy to look in the mirror…” – Jamila (34:09)
  • Noting the futility of attacking messengers rather than reflecting on personal responsibility.

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7. Body Image, Surgeries & Upcoming Projects (41:14–48:49)

• Mecca & Jamila candidly discuss their upcoming surgeries (breast/vertical back lifts), preparations, and anticipated results.
  • “I need to have small waist, badass big titties...” – Jamila (44:35)
• Sharing excitement for milestone birthdays, party plans, and costume themes.
  • “We’re trying to get the page right before we turn 30.” – Mecca (47:53)
  • “That’s So Raven” themed party preview.

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8. SPIN IT: Listener Letter — "I Want Him Bad, But I’m Taken" (50:51–62:15)

• Letter from a listener: Feeling a crush on a new coworker while stuck in an unhappy relationship with her child’s father (a "mean" Virgo), but tied together financially and emotionally.
  • “PR advice is not ethical advice… Cheat.” – Mecca (54:49)
  • “You just want to get fucked… you’re not about to get into a relationship with this man.” – Jamila (56:05)
• Real talk: separating finances, the realities of solo parenting, and the temptation vs. reality of new workplace flirtations.
• Predictions about the future of the listener’s relationship and sage warnings.
  • “Do not tie your finances with a nigga unless you are married, period.” – Jamila (59:45)
• Hilarious aside about the “work bae” illusion often falling flat in the real world.

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9. Random Observational Humor: Boys' Butts, Compliments, and Celebrity Crushes (62:15–72:00)

• Deep (and deeply funny) analysis of why men always seem to be clenching their butt cheeks, and the hosts’ preference for men with a “little butt.”
  • “Boys are always engaging their glutes… that’s why they have that dimple…” – Jamila (66:02)
• The best way to compliment men—“You look cute!” vs. “You fine as fuck”—and their reactions.
  • “I love watching big grown men blush…” – Mecca (64:48)
• Tangent into celebrity thirst (Michael B. Jordan, Method Man), and the ethics (and fantasy) of being a celebrity’s side-piece.
  • “That’s my sugar daddy got to have some sugar. My God.” – Jamila (72:27)

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10. Race, Dating, and Interracial Relationship Myths (75:06–82:50)

• Breakdown of statistics: Most people still marry within their own race; media perception skews reality.
  • “The notion that you are not going to find love in a Black man… That does not match anything that I know of real life.” – Jamila (78:36)
  • The "divestor" trend and honest talk about why some women declare they're done dating Black men (often geolocation or compatibility issues, not race).
• Satirizing the online trends of both Black men and women dissing their own community in public for romantic clout.
  • “Leave me out of it. We as a collection of Black women have nothing to do with you and your white wife.” – Jamila (82:02)

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11. Closing: Patreon, Merch Updates, and New Content (82:54–End)

• Explanation of why they push Patreon (“It helps us pay our staff and scale the business so we can actually live off this.” – Jamila, 84:10)
• Highlights of the exclusive content available: Sidebar series, Screw You series, Slumber Party series.
• Promise of more guest interviews, merch relaunches, and future live shows (Atlanta!).
• Call to action: follow them on all platforms, join the Screw Crew, support Black creatives, and be ready for more unfiltered fun.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamp References

• “Zero days without Unhinged, Immoral technical difficulties. What a week, y’all.” – Mecca (01:30)
• “You singing, you getting tonight to a random at the club is scary. But telling us at the kickback, that’s okay.” – Mecca (04:22)
• “He never came back to another party... I’d just be looking at him like you got a fresh pile of shit on your chest.” – Jamila (10:47)
• “Every answer is the wrong answer… Look what money make a dog do.” – Jamila (11:44)
• “The way these niggas are acting like they are like judge, jury, executioner… like they are top flight security of the motherfucking world.” – Jamila (14:31)
• “White people like wake up and be like, what the fuck bro, like, they can’t do this. And we’d be like, right, right.” – Jamila (22:00)
• “White bitches, no, you can't join the Black Panthers. Go form Crack a Barrel or something.” – Jamila (24:01)
• “Everyone wants to be Malcolm, nobody wants to be Bayard Rustin.” – Jamila (29:28)
• “If you’re not an organizer or an activist… what exactly are you tired of doing?” – Jamila (30:27)
• “PR advice is not ethical advice… Cheat.” – Mecca (54:49)
• “Do not tie your finances with a nigga unless you are married, period.” – Jamila (59:45)
• “The notion that you are not going to find love in a Black man… That does not match anything that I know of real life.” – Jamila (78:36)
• “Leave me out of it. We as a collection of Black women have nothing to do with you and your white wife.” – Jamila (82:02)

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Tone & Style

The conversation maintains a comedic, “kiki with your homegirls” vibe, laced with biting social insight, cultural critique, and self-deprecating humor. The hosts swing between wild personal anecdotes, unfiltered hot takes, and moments of genuine advice and uplift, always maintaining their signature blend of wit and vulnerability.

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If you loved this episode:
Check the hosts’ Patreon for exclusive segments (“Sidebar,” “Screw You,” “Slumber Party”), follow on socials, and stay tuned for news about live events and merch drops.

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For advice submissions:
Email [e-mail] with the details (age, race, if you’re a man include height/political affiliation, etc. – but no more dick pics).

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Next up: Expect more spicy letters, unfiltered pop culture rambles, and the best Black girl banter on the internet.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

She flowing in that cash talk Walk in the booth like Naomi on the cat bar and tell them from the Jaguar, it ain't even right though Push me and I might go, she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the hype for when them bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof? Gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them rampant. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Mondays or More. I'm your host, Jameela. What's up, everybody?

[A]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged tomorrow. I'm your host, Mecca.

[B]

Did you hear me?

[A]

No, I'm do. I'm being funny. Oh, I was gonna say. I miss. I miss saying it. So I wanted to say it because when we first started, I used to say it. Mind you, Jamila just thought there was a whole. There was a whole gain issue. Like, she just was like, turn your mic down. Turn your. No, the.

[B]

No, literally. I did hear my echo, though.

[A]

Okay, so that was real.

[B]

I can still hear my echo, actually.

[A]

Y' all know how it is. We're back to the technical difficulties.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

You see me Zero days without unhinged, immoral technical difficulties. What a week, y'. All. America, America. America's got a problem.

[B]

Actually, Listen, I know we didn't have no episode last week, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Full transparency. I think I had some sort of book and. Or food poisoning. I had the worst week of my absolute life. I was. And throwing up all week long. And it was not from both pain. It was horrible. Like, it was really, really bad. And I just was so irritated because I hate stomach issues, but I just. I'm just a stomach issue ass. I don't know, y', all. But it was. It was really unfortunate. And I just. I. I didn't give a about this podcast last week. I said, baby, I'm in pain. It just.

[A]

I'm sad.

[B]

I don't know if I'm making that I was in. But I'm back and I'm better. I went to the gym today. We're back on our shit.

[A]

I thought it was on purpose because, remember, we had Told y' all we were going on a January hiatus, and then we just acted like we didn't say that. And we're still dropping episodes. So when we didn't record a episode and Jamila was like, I've been so sick. I said I thought this was on purpose. And then also, I feel like the audience thought it was on purpose too, because no one really, like, you know, if we miss an episode, y' all typically are in our comments on other social media apps saying stuff. So that's why I was like, oh, I think we all just thought this was the highest.

[B]

We did kind of reneg it, though, because we were like, well, let's just post. Like, let's just do our virtual stuff. So we kind of, like, reneged. And then we reneged again. I'm a re.

[A]

You know, don't play spades with us, because I definitely will renege. That's why I don't like playing space with people who are very serious.

[B]

And I was gonna say. And. And. And one thing about it. I was just joking. When it comes to space, I simply don't play that. Okay.

[A]

I do.

[B]

I am an elite spades player.

[A]

I'm here for the vibes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The camaraderie of the black community, which is typically. I'm usually the person, like, standing on the outside of the spades table because the actual spades table is too much pressure. It really is. People get way serious about spades, and.

[B]

If you're not ready, get up. Sometimes I just want spades in so long because it's like so many people don't know how to play.

[A]

Exactly. But so many people do know how to play, but some people don't know. I feel like in a general sense, people don't know how to play, like, domino space, like card games. No more. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because that damn phone.

[B]

We're not having home parties. We're not having home parties. We're having events, which I love. I love the events. But because we're not having a lot of home gatherings, we are not pulling out dominoes and cards for you guys to play. And everybody wants to play, you know, pass the. To the left with, you know, these different type of games we're not playing.

[A]

I do love a good pass the pussy. I like a pass game, though. That's like, one of my favorite genre of games. That's the only situation where you passing that. No, I never actually pass the. But I want to hear about how you pass yours. Like, that's the only Situation where I feel like people are allowed to be chronically and really freaky like during those like it's a time and place for everything. Like you singing, you getting tonight to a random at the club is scary. But you telling us at the kickback during. Put a finger down how you a from the club. That's okay. I like that.

[B]

You know I'm saying I'm listening and it's as a matter of fact those there's. There's a sacredness of game night to where it's like it's an unspoken rule. Whatever you hear tonight is we're just gonna leave it here. And it's like sometimes you don't even need a follow up question. Just. Just accept what you just heard and move on. You know what I'm saying? And it's like every now and then I'm redisturbed by stories that I've heard at sexual. I'm like oh, remember that said that you remember, remember that had said that one thing about that one. God, I just disturbed my spirit.

[A]

I was at a party and a said he liked getting on the delayed response. Yeah. And that was the response from the entire party. And that's the type of, that's the type of answer to a question. You have to know there are follow up questions. You can't just say that and then be like okay, I see you pondering with your follow up questions. I can't hear you. I think whatever you just did, you turned down.

[B]

Did he explain where he wanted to be on?

[A]

He did actually. He was not a face person but he said that is a thing. And somebody told him he needed Jesus of course because it was black people. He said he doesn't like runny, he likes hard. Like it has to be one piece.

[B]

Preferences.

[A]

Yeah, there's preferences in texture. It's. It's insane actually. I didn't even know this was a thing.

[B]

So where did he want it done?

[A]

On him? I think he said his chest beginning peed on is a thing too. Golden showers.

[B]

And it's like you know how you know things are things but when you know things are things, it really just you up. Like I know these things are things. I should never know about these things.

[A]

I was, I what, what is so crazy about is like you know these things are things but then when you meet someone who actually participates in these things it makes it a bit more real because I feel like before it was like for me something of a myth. And then I went to this party and we're playing put a Finger down. And it's like, oh my God. I never when I met you earlier in the evening would have thought you liked getting shitted on. Because I don't think anyone likes getting shitted on. But I am very.

[B]

Yes. In a game night especially, you know past the pussy to the left game night there is a level of like, you know, feel safe here. This is a safe space. However, you should never feel safe. Not that to tell me that you let people on. You don't ever feel that safe. I'm not. I'm not that safe. I'm not a safe space. I would have given you the reaction you deserved in that moment.

[A]

No, I felt really bad. The reason I felt bad was because the game. First of all the. The key to pass A to the left game nights is you start the night off playing domino and spades. Like games you're and are drinking while you're paying dominoes and spades. That's something my generation. You want to start the night off with Kisha, please. You can't start at 6 7pm with Kisha, please.

[B]

Starting starting at.

[A]

No, you see what I'm saying? Starting with pass the pussy to the left. What you supposed to start with? Uno.

[B]

Starting with pass the sober is crazy. Cuz it's like you're not even warmed up that. You see what I'm saying warmed up yet to even really to passing it. You know what I mean? Like we're not even. You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to be already drunk so that you feel the need to open up. And not only that and tell your deepest darkest secrets.

[A]

You've been playing games with these people for two to three hours so you feel comfortable. You've created a safe space. We're losing the keys because you have to create the safe space for then someone drunkenly to bring out Karisha, please. And so the reason I felt bad for him because we had been playing Uno, we had been playing charades. We were on the same team. There was a. There was a dynamic created where it very much did feel like a safe space. And I will say the people during the game. This was on Thanksgiving a couple years ago in Houston. We had got an Airbnb and cooked and then had like a kickback basically. And we were so the vibe was there like we were eating, drinking, talking.

[B]

We started with charades security.

[A]

It was. It was all sense of security. And then even I'll give him this was talking about some freaky. They had. Did you feel me like we was. It was in like butt plug land threesomes. Like, it was giving like, oh, you.

[B]

Know, all very normal freak though. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, no, no, no.

[A]

Normal freak.

[B]

And then there's scary freak.

[A]

You know, I was just have to.

[B]

Know what territory you're in.

[A]

I feel like he just felt real safe and comfortable.

[B]

And the.

[A]

The thing, it's like when he said it, it instantly turned into. With especially black people. We said, yeah, it instantly became not safe. And it's like he clocked it immediately and tried to start backtracking. But you can't say I like getting it on and then backtrack.

[B]

I was gonna say there's no backtrack, no pun with liking on your chest.

[A]

You know, you have to explain that. I do need you to explain that. You are gonna have to tell me what's up with that.

[B]

And I want you to walk me through how you discovered that you like that, actually.

[A]

Oh, I didn't even. No one even thought to ask that. And then of course, the obligatory. The obligatory. Now we have to make jokes for the rest of the night.

[B]

Like, yeah, shitty.

[A]

He never came back to another party. I don't think he would have. Because you can't show your face after.

[B]

After that because I' ma just be looking like you got a fresh pile of on your chest. Every time I see you, you.

[A]

You stinky. It's because you just got shitting off before you got here. I don't even like going boo boo. So I can't imagine what would you.

[B]

Do if A asked you to on him?

[A]

Jamila.

[B]

What?

[A]

Can I tell you something? I was watching this clip of Ari and be careful.

[B]

Before you ask me that after we just talked, can I tell you something? What are you about to tell me?

[A]

Well, I have two questions. I saw this clip from a Carisha Please live show of Ari, Kyle's sister and Karisha talking. And Carisha brought up, would you get paid to get on? And Karisha said, you know, I like the golden showers. I like pee, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't pay to get. I wouldn't let A on me. Ari said, what's the price? How much? And Krisha said, you serious? And she was like, how much? So Jamila, is there a price? How much?

[B]

I hate this question so bad because it's like every answer is the wrong answer. Cuz on one end it's like, ew, you dirty. You're letting A on you just for some money. Look what money make a dog. But then on the other end it's like, you not gonna take that money, though. But it's how much, bro? I don't know. I can't even, like, I. I can't even fathom the idea of a man, a grown man spreading open his butt.

[A]

Like, I'm in. I'm inclined to say no. I am inclined to say there is no amount of money that way.

[B]

I don't think I could do it, guys. Yeah, I don't think I could do it. I'm so sorry.

[A]

I don't think I could barely, like, picking up flex shit on a walk that shit. Hell no. That's self. You see what I'm saying?

[B]

I don't like doodle.

[A]

I don't think there's a price. Like, I sat and I ruminated on this because they was in the comments on Twitter, like, so if a nigga asked to shit on you for a million dollars, you wouldn't do it?

[B]

I'm getting very queasy. Jamila says she literally about to throw up, bro. I'm about to cry, actually. Cause the thought of it is really disturbing. It's traumatizing. Like, I have, like, my stomach literally just flipped, bro.

[A]

I said, like, I will probably get myself up out of here. I would. If I did it, I would give the money to my mom and then I might kill myself online, literally.

[B]

Thank you, everybody. Good night.

[A]

No.

[B]

What's yalls price? Well, what I was gonna say. What would y' all do?

[A]

What would y' all do in that situation? Let us know. Let us know in the comments, child, what's y' all answer?

[B]

Like, shit.

[A]

I just couldn't live. I just. I just couldn't live with that. You know how? Like. Because I'm definitely a person who gets like, random flashbacks from embarrassing moments from, like, 10 years ago. So I already know I would. I would constantly be, like, remembering getting on, so I can't. No.

[B]

Like, it would make me want to jump off a building road every time I think about it.

[A]

I don't think I can mentally handle it, though. Speaking of, do.

[B]

Speaking of, let's talk about ice.

[A]

They deserve to be on now. Them do deserve.

[B]

Who deserves to be on full liquid ice, bro?

[A]

Oh, my God, Me after eating Taco Bell.

[B]

So I have never, ever, ever in my life given a. About immigration. Like, let me just put that out there. I've never. I've never could to. Could come to the point of actively giving a. About anyone's immigration status. Like, I can't even fathom people truly actually giving a fuck about someone else's. Immigration status. Like that mindset. Mindset in and of itself does not even permeate my brain. So that alone is already irritating because why the are y' all so pressed about whether somebody is a citizen or not? And all that is just paperwork. White man's paper. You need white man paperwork. All right, so that's number one. Number two, the way these niggas are acting like they are like judge, jury, executioner, like they are top flight security of the motherfucking world. And I seen a video, and somebody. I can't remember who it was. It was. I think it was this Asian man who made a video and he was like, honestly, this is. When you really think about it, this shit is really fucked up and weird because, like, imagine a TSA agent trying to pull you over for a traffic, like, traffic ticket and arresting you. That's how this doesn't make sense. Like, immigration is paperwork issue. Like, why are y' all killing? How did we get there?

[A]

And then y'. All.

[B]

This is some paperwork.

[A]

Y' all are killing American citizens. So y' all are literally not doing your job.

[B]

Y' all keep killing Americans, be talking to citizens. You shouldn't even be. You should never even be interacting with a U. S. Citizen if. If we're trying to. Not that I think that you should exist. Let me be clear. I think that I should be eradicated. But if we are working within the confines of having ICE as an institution, you should never even be interfering or coming in contact with the US Citizen at all, ever. The is you talking to me for.

[A]

And y' all are killing U. S. Citizens. On camera, on cam, you see Donald Trump just sent he. Whoever is running ICE Now, I saw that he's sending somebody else in because. So it can be stripping.

[B]

They say he about to go back to. To the border and then he's gonna softly retire. I said, that ain't enough.

[A]

No, you we out if you gonna kill in the street. We need. We need some i4 9 type.

[B]

I need some retribution.

[A]

I need some retribution. Yeah, no, it's. It's too crazy out here. And think about if they doing this. Think about what they doing in the actual detention centers to the people who they've caught. Hello. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

And that's really the point.

[A]

And that's the point if they're doing this on camera to citizens.

[B]

Exactly. And the fact that them be, like, masked up and like, covering their identity is so, like, eerie to me because as up as like, the actual police are in the Military are as well. At least them don't cover their face. Them bastards are out here trying to literally, like, not show their identity. And that's why that pastor got caught up. Yeah, I'm glad they caught your ass. That was tea for me. I'd love to see it. Keep finding out who these bastards are. The pastor.

[A]

I thought. I thought we all God's children. I thought you supposed to love thy neighbor. Was we paying. Was we all paying attention in church?

[B]

Cuz it's interested.

[A]

Like, no. Also, them arresting a baby, Immigration, Them arresting a baby is crazy. Crazy as, bro, that first of all, little boy, cute as a button. Cute as. And with his little hat.

[B]

I said, this.

[A]

This is a picture that's gonna really, like, define the Trump presidency. That's one of the pictures that's really finna define because he looks. Not that he wouldn't look like a baby, but he had all the baby things on. The little hat, the little backpack, little. Like, he.

[B]

Y' all went.

[A]

Got this little baby from school. Y' all out of pocket. Y' all out of line, mind you. You see, his parents. His parents are legal asylum seekers. So it's like y' all are just.

[B]

Of course they are.

[A]

Of course they are. Like, y' all are not doing your job. And for me, listen, I'm from California. My homegirls were on undocumented. They selves. You feel me? Like, shout out to the Mexican niggas, be on dock. Like. Like, sometimes you be on doc. Like, I don't know. It's like. Thing is, it don't bother me when.

[B]

You really understand how, like, difficult immigration is. Like, as a process, then I feel like you would also simultaneously start to not give a fuck about people's immigration status, because it's not like just going to the DMV and getting your fucking license. Like, this is a long process. There's people who have been here for decades who still ain't got their paperwork straight. It's ridiculous. Like, you as a US Citizen, if you have to all of a sudden do an immigration process, you probably would take a long time, too. Like, it's not just this easy 1, 2, 3, process. So it's like. It's just. It's just ridiculous all together. And I think obviously it's difficult on purpose. Like, I think they make it difficult on purpose so that we can continue to just have this, like, cycle of shit. Because it's like, if y' all really wanted to fix immigration as an issue, maybe you would fix it internally first. Maybe you would Fix the system of immigration. Because the system itself of immigration is difficult and ridiculous, which is why you have so many people doing it the illegal way. Because, bitch, I ain't going through all that. I don't feel like doing all that. I ain't doing all that.

[A]

Like, duh. Yeah. I don't know, man. Amen. Say, man, I think I was talking to my mom about this, and I think Trump, the same thing with the Jimmy Kimmel. They keep forgetting it's white people on the other side, too. And they did not expect so many white people to bounce out and be like, yo, I think the same thing. Like, the same thing that happened with Jimmy Kimmel is happening with ice. Y' all keep forgetting that it's a lot of white liberals who are, at the end of the day, white people and white people are conditioned that they could do whatever the they want. And now you're telling other white people they can't do whatever the they want, and they got the paperwork to back it up, because technically, this country is supposed to do X, Y, and Z and protect X, Y, and Z rights. And so you got bouncing out. That's why you're killing colored people. You're killing black and brown people, but you're also killing white people because they're bouncing out, too, because they're like, yo, what the. I literally seen a girl tweet a white girl. They had screenshot on Twitter, like, we need to go back to regular police violence. And they was like, baby, delete this. All my life. Here, I'll bring it up. I. I said, oh, she bugged. And you could tell. You could tell. She said you could tell she was just really just on some white, like, not thinking, like, we need to go back somewhere. Like, basically, they're killing white people.

[B]

And honestly, the funniest part about it is, like, I know for a fact that all the crackers around the globe right now, or at least around the United States, are thinking the same thing. Like, damn, let's get back to regular program. I don't like that we're also being attacked. Bro, what the. Bro, what the. Kyle.

[A]

Mind you, people were. They were talking about, next they're gonna run up in your house and kill you and say it's justified. I said, they did that with Sandra Massey, what was a year and a half ago, like, that's what I'm saying. Y' all are. Is what's happening now is white people are getting the same treatment that black and brown people have been getting this entire time. They. They actually do that and it's like a thing. They will go in your house, they will shoot you in the street with your hands up.

[B]

White people like wake up and. And be like, what the bro? Like, they can't do this. And we'd be like, right, right.

[A]

Brianna Taylor. Like, there are several black examples of them running up in folks's house. What was the little girl's name who was shot during. I can't I picture. She had a little pigtail. She was real cute. It was a little girl who police killed like years ago. Cuz they ran up in her house and shot too. Like what? My point is they. They've been doing this. So to see someone say next they're going to do it, it's like.

[B]

H. Yeah, we. We.

[A]

Oh, you guys have a fear of the police. You're no longer trusting the police and the government. Welcome. Did you see the tweet where the girl said Juan Crow?

[B]

I have been actually screaming at Juan Crow for 24 hours.

[A]

I said, where?

[B]

Who?

[A]

Ron Crow. Where's who from what city?

[B]

One Crow. I said, okay. And. And this is why I love Twitter. Because you are faced with people that you've never experienced before and their actual thoughts.

[A]

And that baby was dead.

[B]

Juan Crowe.

[A]

One Crow. It's like. And other part about Twitter is like you could see their thought process. It just be like this needed to be fleshed out a little bit more.

[B]

And the other part about Twitter that I love is that we all collectively, instead of like cussing her out, simply had to laugh because it was just so. It was so ridiculous that it became funny. Like sometimes shit be so crazy, it just become funny. It's like, baby, I don't even have it in me to like.

[A]

Because you know what, baby, it's a lot going on. You know, I get it, I get it. You just. You didn't know what else to say. You trying to relate. And. But this is so stupid that. And then you see the white women on Tick Tock joining the Black Panthers. Or the real. What is this? The new Black Panther?

[B]

Like, and I was gonna say and. And there's. It's twofold. Number one, white bitches, no, you can't join the Black Panthers. Okay? That full sentence, full stop. No bitch go form Crack a. Crack a nation or something. Crack a barrel. Not that. But no, like, no, you can't join the Black Panthers like that. Let me just go ahead and answer your question. I know you white bitches want to like be that. Like when white get it in their head that they ready to join the movement. They'd be so excited.

[A]

They really do.

[B]

Yeah. We need to burn this down.

[A]

My mom just sent me an abolished ICE chain message. Oh, you know my mom loves a good chain test.

[B]

Keep the energy up. But no, I. You can't join the Black Panther Party. And my. My second part to this conversation is a lot of them. You guys are not in the Black Panther Party. And I want you guys to stop infringing on their copyright. I don't even know if them got a copyright for real. But stop using their name like the Black Panthers. You don't even adhere to the 10 point plan. You are not communist and or socialist. You are not the Black Panthers. And I think that it's egregious of you to get your black ass up here talking about some. Yeah, we, we like the New Black Panther Party. We knew an approval.

[A]

We.

[B]

A little bit more aggressive, please. You ain't.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Cause ain't nobody ever seen you before. You know, it's some Black Panthers that's still alive, right? Them. Your OGs never approved you.

[A]

Fred doesn't know you.

[B]

You ain't. You're an attention seeker. You're a actor. Get out of here.

[A]

I was gonna say Fred damner don't know anybody, but you know, Fred don't know you.

[B]

You know the vibes any ways all love cosplaying the Black Panthers because like, they love the imagery of Black Panthers, right? When you look back at. It was clean old footage and old pictures. It looks cool, right? Look at all these. These black people with their wells, Bonner everywhere and the.

[A]

The im.

[B]

Wow. Like, ooh, ooh, ooh. But it's like. Do y' all know anything about the Black Panther? Zo.

[A]

Did.

[B]

Have y' all read anything?

[A]

Who's Kathleen Cleaver? Immediately.

[B]

Hello. You know, do you know Bobby Steele? Okay, listen, I don't.

[A]

That's all I'm saying. I'm. You need to know not just the main names, but the other names.

[B]

The readings are still available. You can still read, you can still do your due diligence. And the thing is, you can also like heavily admire the Black Panthers, as do I. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Without trying to like cosplay them. I don't know what it is about. And I get it. Like, there's a sense of like wanting to have this belonging. But as far as we know it, the Black Panthers have ceased operations, guys. Okay. You can thank Hoover, cointelpro and the CIA for that. They have completely up the actual, like, system of being a Black Panther. Yes. There are still a lot of Black Panthers alive, and I do believe they still have a couple of chapters that do some things. But as far as you know, it and this and what we conceptualize as the Black Panther Party as a system is just not the same, guys. Thank you, CIA.

[A]

You also have the option to, like, create some new. You know? You know what I mean? Like, you can create some new. And I. You know, my sister's so far gone, but I still love Raven. I don't care, because that's my girl. You know, when her clips from her podcast come up, I still watch them, even if her wife is saying crazy. But I did see her say she. Nostalgia is ruining media. But I feel like that. That could be taken across the board because we're so obsessed with revamping and rebooting and redoing and sequel and da, da, da. That is stifling, like, new creativity. And obviously she was talking about shows and movies and sitcoms. But to the. To your point about the Black Panthers, y' all could be something new. Like, y' all don' have to be the Black Panthers. Y' all can literally be your own new. Because your heart is in the right place. You got the right spirit. You're trying to protect your community. Just. Just do your own thing. And so that's something I've been deeply into, is like, let's do, like, like, new. Like, I love a good revamp if it's good, but, like, we have a lot of that right now. And I honestly feel like the revamps are oversaturated, the reboots are oversaturated, like, for sure.

[B]

And there's also other organizations that are already, like. Like, actively in play, that have structures, have systems. How about just join some of those organizations that already have their legs and their bones set up so that you can, you know, increase their. Their movement. Like, you ever thought about that? You ever thought about, like, joining some of the. The. The organizations that are already on the ground doing the work? Like, sometimes it's about. And, you know, another thing. Another reason why they want to recreate the Black Panthers is because they want to be the face of movements. Everybody wants to be Malcolm.

[A]

And.

[B]

And. And nobody wants to be Bayard Rustin, because that.

[A]

That's the movement behind the movement. All right, now.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

The movement behind the movement.

[B]

It's okay to be faceless. It's okay to not be. You know what I'm saying? The. The main person. And I think that that's also a reason that people Are like, are overly obsessed in cosplaying the Black Panthers because they were so forward facing. Of course, like, they were very outspoken in that way. But there's a reason a lot of y' all only know a couple of those names, which is fine. Like, but there was a lot of people involved. Like, there was niggas in the basement cooking up, you know, making sandwiches for the kids, free breakfast for the kids. And you didn't know them ladies. You didn't know they names.

[A]

Shout out to the west important too, Wes.

[B]

So y' all need to, you know what I'm saying, lock the in and see what. See, see what service you could. Can do. And, and now that brings me to.

[A]

I was gonna say that was.

[B]

I was gonna make me pivot to what the.

[A]

They were talking to you about. Not, not everybody job the same.

[B]

Now let's pivot. I made a video. In my video, I'll recap what I said for those of you who wanted to misunderstand me. In my video, I talked about this sentiment of I ain't doing. I did my part. I'm done. I don't want to do this, blah, blah, blah. I. I've seen that sentiment from videos and specifically in comment sections, right? And so my question to everybody who had that sentiment important note was, if you are not an organizer or an activist and you are not on the front lines and you are not actively participating in said movement, what exactly are you tired of doing? For some reason, everybody said, you stupid, high yellow, anti black bitch. How dare you ask me what I'm tired of? I'm tired of being black, God damn it. I'm tired of the weight of the world on my shoulders. And I said, okay, so as a black, I don't know if we forgot, for some reason, we forget that fun fact. As a black skin.

[A]

Black skin isn't black.

[B]

And I said this in a video.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, as I also stated in the video, as a black woman, I understand the political fatigue, right? I understand the political fatigue. I understand being so frustrated and exhausted just in general from all this. It is very exhausting period. But if you are outwardly saying that you are not doing something anymore and you already don't do, I'm asking, what are you referring to? And what I said was, and this was probably the most important part of the video that a lot of people, you know, didn't want to pay attention to is this sentiment that you guys keep feeling the need to overly share in public makes me feel like you're talking about Specifically voting. Like, is that what you're talking about? Because if you don't, if you don't organize right, you're not doing all these things and you're tired. You're just so tired from doing it. What are, what are you tired from doing? Voting, Caring. What, what exactly is it? Because if that's the case, that tells me that when we get time for voting, which is important, election year, midterms, are you not going to vote? Are you encouraging people not to vote? Are you encouraging black folks not to vote? What are, what exactly? What's the purpose of this statement? What is the benefit of this statement? I think that everybody can acknowledge that we are exhausted. That is not something that you have to convince me of. That is not something that you need to even justify. I get it and I agree and I affirm. I affirm you. I touch and agree. I touch and agree.

[A]

They about to be like this. This light skinned bitch is condescending. She said she affirmed me.

[B]

And you know what I mean, it is what it is. But I think that y' all pretending like there's absolutely nothing that anybody can do is lazy. I think it's lazy. There is stuff that we all can do. And while I understand, especially if you are an organizer, if you've already been doing a lot, I totally understand if you're an organizer and you're an activist. You say, I'm taking break, you ain't gonna hear from me. I get it. Like, that's some exhausting ass work. But I think that, like, we're in such a trying time and, and it's a lot going on that I think that that's actually when we need to be the most active guys. And that's not a revolutionary thought. That's not an even controversial opinion or anything. I feel like I'm stating the obvious, but I think what happens, especially in that video is a lot of people start feeling a level of guilt because they know that they're not doing a lot or enough. And so instead of just taking that and being like, damn, let me have some reflection. Let me figure out what I can do or let me figure out what I am talking about. Let me figure out how to answer this question. You flip it on me and cuss me out. And now you're not even talking about the, the thing that I was talking about because it's easy to cuss me out. It either call me a dumb, impotent, light skinned ass. It's easy to do that. It's not easy to look in the mirror and say, damn, what have I really done to help the movement? And it's okay if you haven't. I think that's also okay. It's okay. It's okay to be like, damn, you know what? I really ain't did much before. I really ain't did much without. It's okay. Some people, that's all you're, you're ever going to be able to do. And that's okay too. You know what I mean?

[A]

Might be the thing because a lot of people do just vote and you know, I just also on Tick Tock, people watch videos with such a sense of like listening to react and not like, and not listening to receive.

[B]

And they love to stitch a particular part.

[A]

They love to do. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

And so it's like you could be.

[A]

Be, you could be asking the question, posing a question as you did and trying to spark meaningful conversation. And it's taken all the way left. I did. What I will say is I will give some. And I wish I could remember both of their names. There were two videos that I saw during that time that I felt like really did what you were trying to do in terms of when you were asking, what are y' all doing? I saw them, I saw you under both of them when it was like they really explained like some girl explained the mental health aspect and like all this. And I felt like that, see, that's what that was the purpose of this, that not to call Jamila a dumb ass bitch and to call me a Republican for over there. Mind you, this is the other thing. I was, I didn't even know about the video until someone, until Maddie made the video like they're calling Mecca and Jamila Republicans. I said, I'm over here screaming about Jehovah's Diva and shout out to Christy, the phoenix rising from the ashes. Okay, I'm over here in, in some other land. But I do think, I do think, you know, you're a polarizing figure. You know, people, I'm a polarizing figure. Samira is a polarizing figure. People. The thing about being polarizing is Beyonce is a polarizing figure because no matter what you do, you have people who are going to take it left regardless of if that's your attention or not. Whether you like her or you hate her, you're talking about her, these individuals. That's what it means to be polarizing. And so once you get to that status point, it's just one of the things, you just gotta eat it. I think we Were talking about this in our group chat about how, like, it don't even really be like, you know, how when you get whacked so many times, like trauma response, it just no longer kind of like when you, when you got spanked so much, it like no longer means anything. You just be like, literally.

[B]

It's like, okay.

[A]

I feel like that whole time just was kind of like, okay, y' all mad again?

[B]

Yeah, I really didn't. I think it was funny this time specifically because the people who made video responses at me, towards me or whatever, there was a specific one that was 13 minutes long. I said, sister, take a breath. There was so much energy directed at me and yet again, not towards the actual question. And so I genuinely cannot feel any sort of way other than, wow, thanks for proving my point. I seen a video where somebody, somebody was in the video and said something along the lines of. And no, I don't do anything. Right, so. Right. So you agree? Okay. So you agree.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's okay.

[A]

So at that point you just don't like me, which is cool.

[B]

Right?

[A]

But you're entitled.

[B]

I think that moving forward, everybody here is what we're going to do. If Jamila makes a video that you feel as though you absolutely fucking despise and you hate and you want to make a video response and you want to cuss me out, here is the disclaimer. I want you guys to start putting on your videos before you cuss me out. Hey guys, I just want to let you know I really hate Jamila. Like, like, let me just start there. I really cannot stand this high yellow ass hussy ass bitch.

[A]

Some of them already be starting the videos like that though.

[B]

Fair. And, and, and, and that I appreciate, I respect. Thank you. I respect that. I don't respect you, but I respect.

[A]

Yeah, I respect that.

[B]

You know what I mean? Let's go ahead and keep that. Because then everything else you say, people can be like, why is there so much energy? Like, why am I getting so much backlash? Then you'd be like, oh, she hates Jamila. Got it. Okay, cool. You know what I mean?

[A]

A lot easier, you know, a whole.

[B]

Lot, A whole lot easier to digest.

[A]

Because now I'm sitting here trying to find if you're actually going to make a rebuttal to my argument. And this was just a think piece on why I ain't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just like, oh, well.

[B]

My. You know, would be funny to me after I watched that 13 minute long video.

[A]

The fact that you watched it is so insane.

[B]

Skin. Oh, you know me. A dumb light skin. Impotent was the mind you. I'm gonna keep saying impotent. I was called impotent, y'. All.

[A]

Like, isn't that non sexual? Isn't that relate to sex? Or is it. You can be impotent in the brain too.

[B]

Let me look it up.

[A]

I was gonna say I've only heard people use impotent when it comes to like niggas not being able to get it up. Like, oh, he was me too.

[B]

That's why I was like, I'm impotent.

[A]

My pussy work.

[B]

Unable to take effective action. Helpless or powerless, but also unable to achieve a sexual erection.

[A]

Okay, so it could be either or. That's my thing.

[B]

Dumb impotent bitch and all types of and hoes and things like that. What was my point? What the. What?

[A]

How did I start this? I. I don't even know because I'm stuck on. I would have been like, my pussy actually works severely. It works very well.

[B]

Okay, I got. I got a couple people you could call like impotent.

[A]

That's not the word for me, babes. Find another one. Find another one.

[B]

Let me tell you something. I'm just playing. Y' all know I don't have sex. Come on, guys. Y' all know Jamila be.

[A]

Jamila be y'. All. She be lying.

[B]

If you can't find not dairy, you can't find notary. I didn't like. Y' all can't.

[A]

What?

[B]

Y' all can't find no evidence of saying honestly same.

[A]

I just made the video about like. Remember when the girl said she saw my news during one of a time when we were already getting whacked and she said she's found her nudes. My nudes. That was insane. But I was like, the fact that the evidence that I be and sending news never has come from an actual but came from an ex girlfriend is insane. And she said. She said my ass is fat. So she had to say that. You know, this is.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

This is Shirley. You know that man. That man. That man was playing. I'm sorry he did you that way, sister, because he was not my. No, he is not my.

[B]

Like, my bad, my bad.

[A]

Like now. Now Machiavelli got to be a casualty.

[B]

Award really long time time though.

[A]

Like, you don't be getting dick pics.

[B]

I couldn't even tell you the last time I sent the nude.

[A]

Oh, last time you sent a nude. You probably gonna send so many once your titties drop.

[B]

Oh, baby, I'm. I'm sending videos. I'm sitting. I'm titties up. I'm looking for the business in the city. I can't wait. Do that. But, you know, I have to wait at least six weeks to really bounce them tits. Just know. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, whomever. Whomever is on that line will get a FaceTime review. Full, mind you, full scars and all. Not even healed up. How they look. They look good.

[A]

I mean, granted, when I got my breast lift and my boobs done, I was 23. I did not follow doctor's orders. I absolutely was. Days afterwards, I was on my days, like maybe seven. I think I waited all of the week.

[B]

You're insane.

[A]

I was. That's fair. But I. I granted it. I couldn't. It was like this. And the other thing is, it's so funny how, like, you literally be fresh stitches do not care, are disgusting.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. You about to be saying it. And you better be grateful. You didn't pop a stitch and that titty didn't fall out.

[A]

I mean, that's really. That's really what it comes down to. Not. Not popping a stitch. But that I. I remember we did it on my back so that you feel me. Yeah.

[B]

Now them teeth just bouncing.

[A]

Yeah. You know, and we try to keep it. Keep it. Yeah.

[B]

You know, I am. I'm an older lady.

[A]

That's the one thing. Being older now, the older you get.

[B]

The harder it is for things to heal. Now, granted, I'm still young in. In, you know, in relation to life, but I'm trying to be very careful. There's things I'm doing to prep.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

For surgery. These. These are things that were not necessarily, like, directed to my. By my doctor. Like, you know, how for some surgeries, you have to lose weight or whatever. Like, I don't have to do anything necessarily specifically to prep for my surgery. However, I'm doing things because by the time I get my titties, I do. I need everything to, like, work properly. Right. So what I'm doing is I'm incorporating a lot of pectoral exercises as well, because I am going under the muscle, and I just want to make sure I have a sturdy base for one. And I'm also really trying to get this waist as snatched as possible because by the time I get my titties, I need my body to be at its supreme state.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need to have small waist, badass big titties. You know what I mean? Shaped like another eight. You know what I Mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to, you know, be on that type of timing, and I'm going to.

[A]

I am.

[B]

You know, I'm already a hypochondriac. I'm trying to get all the things to make sure I can help with my scars, because I will have the scar kind of going up my boobs because I am getting a lift.

[A]

Oh. So we'll have the same Scarlet. I'll send you what I am under and a.

[B]

The thing is, though, I'm really not too worried about what my scars look like, only because I have a lot of stretch marks under my boob from when they were growing and stretching from breastfeeding and stuff. So I think it'll blend in with.

[A]

A stretch mark, honestly. So this is what I did really.

[B]

Deep underneath, so I don't really care.

[A]

My scars are essentially completely faded. Like, I don't even have to tell people I had a lift anymore to, like, that's how undetectable they are. As soon as the doctor okays you to start using bio oil, get happy with that.

[B]

I'm going in.

[A]

You know, just, like, literally just go in. I used to just pour. Yeah. And, like, rub in.

[B]

I.

[A]

And I did it so early after surgery. I really think it made a difference with how they healed. For real.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna do all the things. I'm gonna prep and make sure you guys are tuned into my YouTube channel, because I am going, like, completely transparent. Like, I'm gonna show you guys the entire process from start to finish. I'm doing a Q A with the doctor. I'm doing all. It's going to be such a good series. I'm actually super excited. I've never done anything like this as far as, like, vlogging, like, intimate details about my life in this way. This is, like, the. The most intimate you'll ever see me. Y' all are gonna see my titties. I'm like, y' all not gonna see my titty titty, titty, titty, but you gonna see. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

You're gonna.

[B]

You're gonna see something. And I want to do, like. I'll probably do, like, have, like, a bathing suit on, like, so to. To do before and afters and stuff like that. Because I've seen the girls who get breast reductions. They'll, like, try on a shirt, but both, like, the same shirt before and after kind of show different shirts how they fit and stuff. So I'll probably do stuff like that. So you can kind of, like, see the way my breasts are shaped and, like, what specifically I'm fixing and all the things. So, yeah, make sure you guys are locked into the YouTube channel, because I'm doing that series as well as my Journey to 30 series, where I'll be interviewing some of some familiar faces.

[A]

Yes. And I have. I feel like I mentioned mine, but people didn't forget. So I'm also getting, like, a vertical back lift, which is, like, from. It's like, basically weight loss skin removal. I'm not getting a traditional back lift because I have a huge and beautiful Japanese cherry blossom tattoo. All that covers my whole back. And the traditional back lift, they cut across and have to pull up for the skin. So I'm getting cut on my sides. And actually, my surgery is a week from today, so we're recording this now. But I do plan on. I plan on making videos and doing content I'm doing. I plan on doing a little bit more on Patreon, so if you're not subscribed to our Patreon, go tap in with that. So, yeah, Jamila and I are trying to the page get right before we turn 30. I knew. I knew that was my big thing. I wanted to get it done before my. I wanted to get it done and be, like, healed up, like, good before I turned 30, because obviously, I need to be outside for, like, my party and stuff, my birthday, you know, things need to be settled.

[B]

Yes, absolutely. Come 30.

[A]

Are you excited?

[B]

Where. I'm so excited. I'm excited to be, like, omg. I'm also planning a really huge birthday party. I'll also kind of be taking you guys along the journey of, like, what's that been like? Like, planning all of those things.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes. Imagine, like, when Beyonce had her 21st birthday at Cascade.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. It's giving Jamila turns 30. It's. It's the event that everybody wants to attend.

[A]

Oh, and you're in Atlanta, so that's gonna be fun. That's gonna be fun.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I always do my parties a little bit smaller because I do costume parties and costume themed parties. Will I tell y' all my theme this week? It's not even, like, a theme that is super, like, popular. Well, it's a theme that people are doing. Oh, what the heck. I'm doing a. That's so Raven.

[B]

I was gonna say at this point. Just say it.

[A]

That's a raven theme, so.

[B]

Oh, that's fun.

[A]

Yeah. That's so Mecca. So kind of not quite Y2K. I'm gonna send out a mood board Kind of like more so bright colors, like that type of thing. Like very raven, very cheetah girls. Very like, act like, you know what the. That how the. They were dressing on Disney Channel. Please. We were all there. So fun. Fun fact. I don't know. But people who follow me, I always have a costume party for my birthday. So last year was 2010. Everyone basically came like in skinny jeans. And that was for like the last year of 29, 22,009 to 29. It was like jerking themed. And then 2008, 28 was pimps and hoes. So we all dressed as like pimps and hoes. Then 27 was old people. We dressed up as old people. Mind you, we always go to the club dressed up. That's the other part fun part about it. 26 was villain. Tara, 26. So everyone came just as like a super villain. I was the bride of Chucky. I had a lot of Harley Quinn's. Sabrina was Phantom of the Opera. Shantae was Kamala Harris, 20. And 25 was Motown. 25. So a 70s theme. At my villain party, I actually had one of my homeboys who went to Howard come in a Hampton sweatshirt. She dressed as a Hampton pirate. I said, oh my God. So yeah, that's my thing. I like a good theme costume party, you know, even well into your 20s. But it's always fun and it's cheeky. So yeah, we're doing that. So raven theme, basically kind of Y2K bright colors. And I'm really, really excited. I'm glad that I have this thing that's very specific to me where people know I'm gonna have a cost because it does create a natural type of buzz about like, oh my God, what's the theme this year? What's the theme? You know, period?

[B]

All righty. Well, let's spin it. Let's spin it.

[A]

All right, guys, this is our segment. Spin it now. This is where Jamila and I take your low down gutter snipe. Disgusting. Some of y' all are the past couple weeks. Y' all are terrible people and I love that. Keep sending letters in for us to give you a little bit of advice and a little bit of a PR spin. Now keep in mind, Jam and I are not PR professionals. We studied communications in undergrad and we do like to give you a little bit of a PR spin. Help you get you out your pickle. Remember, you can send your situations to at unhinged anymore pod gmail dot com. Don't forget to include your race, your age. Men need to include their height, your political affiliations, your sexual orientation. I would say dick size, but we cannot have another barn situation and get a picture of a dick. Anyway, what do we have this week, Jamila?

[B]

All right, the title is I Want him Bad, but I'm taking. Oh.

[A]

All right, let's go.

[B]

Hi, Mecca. Hi, Jamila. I love the podcast. I've tuned in every week since the first drop. Stay dedicated. I need y' all to spin this bad. I am 26 years old. Well, 27 on the 31st. Shout out to the Aries. So I guess you're already 27.

[A]

Big Aries.

[B]

I have been in a relationship with my baby daddy for going on four years now. I do love him and would love to continue my family with him. However, things tend to be tumultuous. My baby daddy is a Virgo. Y' all already know my beef with that sister. Let's continue. A control freak and sometimes just straight up mean as hell. There's no infidelity or anything, but he just speaks to me like he's crazy. Far too much and far too often. I had made a plan to leave a couple months ago, but I told him he needs to tighten up or I'm gone. He's fixed his behavior somewhat and we're on better terms and I thought we would be cool. Also, no shade to him. Our sex life is kind of bland now because I just can't be a freak when I'm stressed and don't feel safe. However, I felt like our relationship is getting better and healthier until I start working in my new job. And y', all, there is this fine ass man that just got hired that just got hired on as well. He's tall, brown skin, so freaking handsome and literally the nicest guy ever. It is very obvious I have a crush on this man. Like one of our flutters. One of those flutters in your stomach, heart racing kind of crushes. My co worker mentor has heard about my transgressions with my baby daddy and I think she low key introduced me to this guy and each other in effort to set me out. She definitely, she was definitely given setting me out vibes because he works night shift and I work day shift. Our paths crop wouldn't cross otherwise. I think he might be on the wave with me because on the wave with me too because he gets all flustered and smiley whenever I come around. I'm very P when I want to be and I love flirting. We both have a tendency to make excuses to see each other even though our offices are pretty much separate. For example, he will come over here to ask basic HR questions he already knows the answer to. Lol. And I accidentally print things off on the printer in his office just so we can converse for a while before I go home for the day. However, given my current circumstances, I feel bad, but at the same time, I don't. I can't leave my baby daddy right now because of us being financially intertwined and because of our son. My baby daddy also watches our son while I work with he's work from home. And as I build my own stability, it would be hard to afford daycare on my own. Am I delusional for contemplating leaving my relationship for someone I don't even know? I think I might know the answer to that. Lmao. But I'm conflicted on what I should do. Should I move on little fine. Or should I find or should I just do nothing and keep it as little office flirt and not let it go any further? This is good.

[A]

All right, I'm gonna start here. Now, I want to preface. I didn't say this in the beginning. PR advice is not ethical advice. PR vices, damn near never ethical. So listen to me when I say what I'm about to say is not ethical, sister Cheat. It's clear One thing me and Jamila constantly talk about can't know me be the for you that's number one.

[B]

And all I heard is your baby.

[A]

Daddy is mean to you. You need to get away from that man. But I understand you got. You got bills and you got a baby and you gotta, you know, get yourself on a bit of a better financial step before you do that cheat on that go on a date with this new PR wise. What could you tell the new. Tell him you got a son. I mean, you don't even really have to lie. You just have to scheme to be honest. Because with the new you could be you like when it comes like, oh, why can't I come over? Why can't I do this? Oh, because my son's home. My son stays with his dad while I'm out. Like, that's not technically a lie. You feel me? Like that's truth. He. He just don't know the live in the house with you. You see what I'm saying? You have anything to add?

[B]

I don't even really think like you need to do all of that because it's like, let's be. Let's be honest, sister. You just want to get. You're not trying to get into a new relationship. You're not about to. Like, even if everything goes your way and you leave your. And you try to give this, like, this work that's not about to be your. Like, you're not about to get in a relationship with this man. Like, I'm telling you that right now. Ask someone who has been in your place, what's gonna happen. Let me tell you what's. And this. This letter was sent back in March. I know we took a long time to get to it, but y' all know we get a lot of letters, so I'm going to. I'm going to predict where you are currently.

[A]

Okay, come on. Come on, Raven.

[B]

You know what I mean? Let's get into my predictions. I predict that that relationship is either at its width and I'm talking about you can't take it no more and y' all are completely gone and like, it's giving roommate or you decided to be a. A big girl and leave that alone. One thing I know is a Virgo. A Virgo man. Yes, I do. And once a Virgo starts being mean to you, it's unfortunately nothing you can do to reverse it. That's just. They don't respect you. Virgos are very. When they are good to you, they are really good to you. And it's. It's a distracting tool. Okay, they're going to be really good to you. And they have the capacity to be really, really good partners. But the ones they want to be that for. And if that Virgo has started to show you signs of being a. Which he has, sister, it's. You're done. You're too far gone, and there's nothing you can do to reverse that. And then you're saying the sex life is. Isn't good because you are now being affected. Which again, I can understand because I can't be a freak. A freak either when I'm sad. You know what I'm saying? I can only be a pillow princess, and I don't even want to do that. I can't even get horny if I'm. If I'm not turned on. And you can't turn me on if you're being a meanie. So I think that y' all are no longer together. And I also think that you already cheated on that if you're smart. But because you're having all these conflicting thoughts, I feel like you probably didn't. And you probably kept feeling so guilty because you didn't want to be the girl who cheats on her, which I understand. Like cheating all you Know, of course, has its negative things. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, cool. However, comma, I do think that your boyfriend cheated on you. I think that that's what you're gonna find out. I think you're gonna find out that he actually has been cheating on you. Because there's always a reasoning behind the random, like, shift in behavior. We always talk about that, right? And so I think that you're going to discover, and if you haven't already, check that phone, that he was cheating on you in some capacity. So now what do we do? Right where it's now almost March again. We're almost a year out from when you sent this letter. So where do we go from here? The thing is, you can do multiple things at once. You can be stacking your money, building your stability. Your stability. While also having a. A get out of jail card, right? You need to figure out a way to sever your ties with this said baby daddy. And here's going to be my advice to anyone out there listening. Trust me. Trust me. If there's nothing you were ever going to trust me about, this is something you guys need to trust me about. Do not tie your finances with a nigga unless you are married, period. And even when you are married, even then, still need to have some level of separation as well. Do not 100% be dependent on a man financially because you don't know what's going to happen. And it is really hard to break away from a relationship when you are tied up financially. I understand it. Sometimes it's just like, damn. Well, it's just easier. It's easier. And that's how they get your ass. That's how you got got. So you need to figure out a way to tether those financial responsibilities. And the thing is, it's really not as hard as it seems, okay? Come the next billing cycle, take that name off. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's just.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's just. You just need to do it. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, go ahead and do that. You need to be working on that stability of being a single mother. And when I say a single mother, I don't necessarily just mean that you're going to be the sole provider of the kid. It seems like he's an active father in some kind of way. So of course, like, we want to maintain that and, and allow space for him to be an active father as well. But that doesn't mean you're no longer a single mother, especially if you. If y' all are not going to be living together. So you need to learn how to operate as a single mother. Because when you have that child in your custody, you are a single mother and you need to learn how to do that. You need to be able to. To take care of that child on your own. Because also once separation happens, a lot of times those lose sense of responsibility. It's not fair. It just is what it is. So what you going to do? Cry about it? No, you're going to be a good mom and you're going to do what the you got to do. And let me tell you, the first instance that act like he ain't going to do what he got to do, Put him on them papers. And I mean, jam going to upset.

[A]

The black community again. But listen, I don't give a if the nigga's not gonna take care of his kid, the nigga is gonna take.

[B]

Care of his kid one way or another.

[A]

You know? Now you would think that you would be able to have a good understanding with your baby father so you don't have to have a judge tell y' all what you need to do with your children. But if it can't get there, sometimes you need a judge to tell you what you do with your children. You sometimes need a judge in a robe to tell them they need to pay for their kids. Structure some. You know, we all need some structure sometime. We can't villainize women for asking for structure. Mm. Mm.

[B]

Yeah. So I want to know if my predictions were true.

[A]

I also wonder an update from you if I would say just fuck the work in the car at lunch or something, because she just. You just want to be.

[B]

Work are never going to be like.

[A]

Like remember, remember the episode? Yeah. They have like. They're like a 8, 9 at work. But then when you go outside in the wild with them, they like seven.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So them in the car at work.

[B]

While they still find of a relationship working out with a work is about the same chances of a relationship working out with your high school boyfriend. Same probability. You know what I mean?

[A]

I hate a high school relationship.

[B]

A lot of the times I don't know if you work in a. Considering you said day shift, night shift, I'm just guessing that she works in HR though. Warehouse. I don't know.

[A]

She said she's an HR because. Yeah.

[B]

What else has a night shift? It gives you work at a. At a warehouse facility in some sort of way. And what I will say is who work the warehouse are always on that alt right pipeline.

[A]

I don't know. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. I have no. I have no evidence to back that up. And they love listening to Larry June and what's that fine name? What's that fine name?

[A]

Dom Kennedy.

[B]

No, Davies. Dave east and Larry June Warehouse.

[A]

Dave East's is very fun. My God.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

He is.

[B]

Him playing Method man was the smartest thing anybody could have did because it.

[A]

Was an eagerly fine. Like, y' all knew what needed to happen. Y' all needed to do that. Method man is so fine. My God. Sometimes just so be. Be so fine. You got to take a moment, just be like, you know what? You is really fine. I don't mind telling a he fine. I don't. I don't want to guess his head too much, but I don't mind, like, a little words of affirmation.

[B]

I hate telling. They're fine.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I don't know what it is. I prefer to call them cute because I just want them to know, like, oh, you look cute. I'm. I. That's all I can say. Like, all you look cute is hella funny.

[A]

Oh, you look cute. That's all nice.

[B]

I. That's all I say. If I. If I say to a like, oh, you look fine as. Just know I'm drunk. I promise you. Like, I cannot, like, say that sober. I don't know. It just doesn't. That. That's not.

[A]

It doesn't roll off the time for.

[B]

Me to say sober. No. Like. But one thing I'm gonna be like, you look so cute. Smiles with a smile on my face. You look so cute.

[A]

I feel like he fine as. I'll be like, you fine.

[B]

You fine as you look.

[A]

So the thing about complimenting a is they. Everyone likes a compliment at the end of the day. And so it's really funny watching like. Like big grown men, like, blush. Like, thank you.

[B]

I love.

[A]

It's so funny.

[B]

Like, cheekbones touching your eyes.

[A]

I just made you feel good, huh? You liked it there, huh?

[B]

You look so fine.

[A]

You find it?

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Just you for me? Oh, yeah. I just put this on.

[B]

Yeah, just put this on.

[A]

You like it? Yeah, I like it.

[B]

You feel me? I, like, look good. You look good, baby. Boys are so funny. Boys don't even really be knowing, like, how funny they are truly when they're not trying to be like, yeah, that's when boys are the funniest when they're actively not trying to be funny and they're just, like, behaving as their authentic true selves.

[A]

10 out of 10.

[B]

Watching boys just do their things that they do. Like, wow, look at you. You ever. Let me tell you something. I wanna. I wanna expose something about boys really quick. Boys are always clenching their ass cheeks. And it is the funniest to me.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Wait.

[B]

Especially how aware of their ass.

[A]

I didn't want to have to look.

[B]

Boys are always. Just trust me. Boys are always clenching their ass cheeks. You know what? You want to know why? They're never comfortable. Boys are always so tense. Butt cheeks be clenching. That's why their butts are so big. Because they're. They're always. They're always engaging their glutes. Boys are always engaging their glutes. Them booty cheeks be clench, and that's why they had that dimple right in them. Oh, and I'm wearing sweatpants or tight pants. I'm always looking at their butt, and it'll be tight.

[A]

I enjoy. I like a tight ass. I don't want no. With no flat ass. What?

[B]

Yeah. Flat ass on a boy looks awkward.

[A]

Oh, you need to have a little, like.

[B]

Oh, he has a little butt.

[A]

Yes, I do like a little butt. And you know what?

[B]

And I think it's so cute when they clinch it. It's just like. You're like. I'm telling you. You guys are. Now that I've made you aware.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at your butt. Right.

[A]

I'm literally thinking about it. And they all have the little dent inside because they're clenched.

[B]

Because they're clinching.

[A]

They don't just.

[B]

You don't never see with that.

[A]

Because they just let it flap in the wind.

[B]

Clenched up. Exactly. We just, like, let our booty be loose. We love our loose booty. Boys cannot let that booty be loose. You know why? Because when your booty loose, it move when you walk. And they don't like when they booty jiggle when they walk. So they keep it clenched at all times. Boy, booty be tight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The more you know.

[A]

The more you know. Thank you.

[B]

The more you know.

[A]

Professor Jamila. She's good. She's good for some things, y'. All. She comes for some things.

[B]

I am an observer. That's all I do. I watch people so intently, like, I can't help but observe things. And it's my favorite thing to do. Yes. If you. If whatever is around you right now, look at their ass. Clinched, clenched, dimpled up.

[A]

Yes. Dang. Now I feel like I gotta look. I gotta look at somebody booty. But I'm on this fast. It's my last Week.

[B]

Look at the nearest ass next to you.

[A]

Snow ass next to me. Only my own. And I'm not clenched.

[B]

I'm very loose.

[A]

I'm telling you girls, we are so.

[B]

Relaxed in our glutes.

[A]

Our booty's just been flapping in the wing.

[B]

That's why they be nice and round and filled out. We don't have that, that. We don't have that indent. We don't have that, that. Yeah. That suction because we're not clenched up.

[A]

That's good. That's good. I like boys. I like boys who got triangle shapes but like then got some butt. That's my favorite. Like. Well, when they said Michael B. Jordan's body. And I love a with titties. Michael B. Jordan in sinners succulent breasts. Titties and chains. All in my face and pronounced.

[B]

And it has, it's like. It's like a square boob. It's like. Yeah, they have that crease right there. It's like that small crease. It's just, it's like a little bloop. It's like a little, little speed bump. Bloop, bloop. And then it, it matches perfectly with your hands.

[A]

Yeah. And it's like when this part of.

[B]

Your hand is where you put on their breast that bump.

[A]

Yeah. And it's just like oh my God, it's a titty and it's chains and it's you titty chains. Like I love that. Like I don't really like body wise. I don't like. No. Who's like rock hard. Like in terms of like, like hella like you need to be a little soft though. You need to have like some, some, some fluff just a little bit.

[B]

I like. Now don't speak for me.

[A]

I'm not speaking for you. I'm saying I like a who's buff. I'm just saying when they, when they look like a rock. That's scaring me. Like it needs to look like it's a little soft. Yeah. When it's like, it's like that don't even look soft to lay on. You see what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you having flashbacks?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Jamila over there. Coochie throbbing like. Please.

[B]

God. Everything reminds me of him. I love him. Yes. I love like.

[A]

Yeah. I just like. And a big arm. That's very arm booty chest arm just bow, bow, bow. Like I, I like for you to look like you're in the gym, but like it not seven days a week, like four days a week. You see what I'm saying? Like, not interesting. Not like bodybuilder buff. I don't like bodybuilder buff. But, like, I relax.

[B]

No, that's.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Like, yeah, the.

[A]

I. The Rock looks actually hard. Like, I don't want to lay on that. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, Michael B. Jordan in Sinners is peak. When he had that shirt off, I.

[B]

Said, oh, you is big. Oh, he looks good. He did look good.

[A]

And, you know, I've been reformed. Like, I be going through ebbs and flows of Michael B. Jordan. Sometimes I be thinking he's cute. Sometimes I be thinking he's not. Then sometimes I'll be like, oh, maybe he is cute. Then I'll be, he's not that cute. Like, it really just depend on what he doing for me. But in Sinners, baby, he. I was feeling in the centers. I said, oh, he is cute. I mean, I'm in. He's a cute face. I said, smoke or stag?

[B]

Whichever one. Yes, yes. Okay. And he had a little.

[A]

You feel me? A little gangster element to him. I said, oh, damn.

[B]

I was trying to see about that. I was shy to see about that.

[A]

For sure. For sure.

[B]

I wanted to know. I wanted to know what that felt like.

[A]

Yeah, listen, I'm not gonna turn you into a vampire. I'm gonna do what the hell I need to do and go home. Titties. Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, I do like. I like man titties.

[B]

Method man today.

[A]

He also has man titties.

[B]

We're blessed in the city. Let me tell you something, what he got he got everything that I want.

[A]

Everything that I need he got everything.

[B]

That I want Shout out to his.

[A]

Wife that's a praying woman I heard she could fight, too.

[B]

Yes, but that, that, that, that.

[A]

When.

[B]

When. When we as ladies talk about wanting a sugar daddy, well, let me speak for myself, because I know some of y' all actually don't give a. That's my sugar daddy. Got to have some sugar. My God.

[A]

Once a day.

[B]

Method man is so goddamn fine. I think that, like, I think when I see him tonight, I might inhale like.

[A]

Like, you have to inhale his smell.

[B]

Oh, I might. I might moan.

[A]

He gonna be like, hello.

[B]

You're like, I might forget where I'm at.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yo, excuse me. Excuse me.

[A]

Excuse me, sweetheart.

[B]

History man, you're meth.

[A]

Hey, your meth.

[B]

You real beautiful. Your meth. You're beautiful. M E T H O D Man trying to Holler.

[A]

Yeah. You like? You like fine.

[B]

You Dr. Like fine. I can't wait. I would definitely commit adultery. You know what I mean?

[A]

Just saying, you know, there are. There is. I can only think of one situation where I would not mind being a side piece. And it is with Method Man. I'm okay with saying that in the public.

[B]

And I would be so quiet.

[A]

I would be so. Oh, my God. I would never tell us all. I would never tell nobody. I would never tell.

[B]

Yeah, okay, let me stop. Because his wife might beat my ass. Like, she might think that we're really trying to. She beat cancer.

[A]

She would for show ass.

[B]

Respect to the lie. Respect to the lie. Respect for the lie. Respect for the lie.

[A]

And y' all know Jamila don't fight. She said, hold up, let me reel it back in. I don't.

[B]

God, I don't. Oh, God, I don't. I just wanted to let you know that you are a blessed lady and you have a fine husband. And I know you know that. I know you know.

[A]

I know you know. Oh, ma', am, you know, no disrespect.

[B]

Touch a degree is all I wanted to do.

[A]

I didn't mean it when I said I would be your husband's side piece.

[B]

I'm lying. I'm lying.

[A]

But I respect black love.

[B]

Cue the shut your yellow ass up. You're trying to ruin black love. Not on God, though. We do need more black men marrying black women.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[B]

And when I say that, I mean specifically in the public eye because I know in like real life is. Is marrying. I know that. But like, in the public facing eye, like, I would like to see it more.

[A]

It's so interesting when you go outside, the statistics actually say that most people marry within their race, like across races. Mostly everyone is marrying within their race. And so that's why in the public eye to when you see so many, like mixed couples, it's like this actually doesn't reflect real life. It really doesn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, for sure, I haven't. I don't even see like, I've been like, even at my church, I don't see like mixed race couples. Like, I just don't see that in my, like. No. I live in such a black area. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just saying on my day to day. On a day to day basis. As Mecca. No.

[B]

Yeah. I think it. Honestly, I think it depends on, like the area and. Yeah, but because I'm saying Atlanta especially, like in the city Because I live more so in the city. I don't really see a lot of interracial couples. I don't see a lot, but I see a few here and there.

[A]

Yeah, you see a few there. There's always a few.

[B]

But it's. Is that like in Atlanta? Definitely. And sidebar. This is why it's really important. Like, specifically, if you're a black woman, before you jump ship and make that announcement of, like, I declare I will not date any more black men, or there's no.

[A]

I've divested.

[B]

I, like, before you go ahead and make that, like, did you ever consider you lived in Montana, you know what I'm saying? Like, no shade. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Did you ever.

[B]

Did you ever think about, like, the area in which you're dating? Because in Atlanta, while I'm not trying to stick up for. Because is gonna. Nick is gonna be Nick everywhere, universally. I. Most, if not all, Most, if not all of the guys that I have dated in Atlanta also date black women. It's not like they, like, I was just their first black woman or anything like that. I have not experienced dating a. That, like, he. I'm his first black girl. Like, I. No, I have not experienced a lot of the black men out here, like, for the most part, exclusively date black women. So I think it's a. It's a geolocation type of issue more so than anything, honestly. Like, you, like, are you. You know, you go to UC Berkeley, sister, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what to tell you. You got. Maybe you got a. You know what I'm saying? You got to go where the. Like, you know what I mean? And I don't think that would be as big of an issue for you, per se.

[A]

No, you're absolutely right on tick tock.

[B]

She was divestor. She makes a lot of dating content. She was like. She was like, I am. And as soon as I heard her speak, and I was like, where are you located? She was like, I am no longer really trying to exclusively date black men. As a matter of fact, like, I, like, they're not going to be my number one choice anymore because I just feel like I'm not having good luck. And I'm like, I understand not having good luck with them, but it's like, is it because they're black, or is it because you're just not compatible? Because you've also been saying that you're not compatible with these white men. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it. You know, I'm saying if you want a day outside your race, please go for it. But I think like the notion that you are not going to find love in a black man. I cannot, I cannot in good faith agree with you, my sisters, because I think that to say that you're on. You can only find love outside your race. That does not match anything that I know of real life.

[A]

Yeah, no, it doesn't. It really does.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It really doesn't.

[B]

So skill issue.

[A]

Sounds like a you problem. No, I just, I don't know. Last time I had this conversation, this is so funny. I said, I said something along the lines it was me and Kousi on live and they tried to make it a light skinned thing and Kousi was like, well, I also don't have these problems.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like sometimes I get like people lean into hard into the isms. But I definitely think some, sometimes it's a geolocation, sometimes it's a compatibility. Like just looking at my own dating history, all the black men I've dated, most of whom I've not been compatible with, like, I think you're putting it on people being black and not just like, well, most of the time if you think about a numbers game, you're not going to be compatible with most of the people you date. That's why, you know, like, what are we talking about? You see what I'm saying?

[B]

It's like that's why we date.

[A]

That's why we date to figure out who we're compatible with. So if you're not getting luck with this one particular group of people, but then it's like people be so pressed to be in a relationship and so it starts like, who is going to seem like they like me first and then just the first person that likes them. Now they're saying this group of people likes me. But yeah, if you definitely live in a city where it's, where it's a lot of black people. I just, I'm not saying I don't see biracial or interracial couples, but they're just not the majority. Whereas like somewhere in California, being from there, that is something you have to ask. They are. And even in certain areas, you know, obviously still not the majority, but in a much bigger way than it is. Like here in Houston where I stay, you, you, you more likely. And which is common, more likely to see interracial or inter ethnic or. What is it called? Internationality girl. No, but you're more Likely to see diaspora relationships like this. You, you African American, Nigerian, African American, Jamaican, African, like you more. You're gonna see that. But not like, you know, yeah, you probably got a lot of lexicons. But I mean like that's the we in Mexico. So.

[B]

Yeah. And again, I do want to preface by saying if you just want to taste the rainbow, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

And that's my thing. That's why I'd be feeling like don't put it on the race.

[B]

Like black men are never gonna love me. That's.

[A]

Yeah, like just.

[B]

And I think that when you immediately start saying that, I think that you might need to start having a conversation about internalized anti blackness as well. No shade. No shade.

[A]

No shade. I'm just saying, because this my thing. Just, just go get you a Nicholas to your olandria because you want to just say you seen the. And you looked fly because that. And you like the way it looked. Yeah. You like what they serve it.

[B]

I saw this fine white boy and.

[A]

I wanted to give him. I want to see what's happening. That's that and I feel like, see this the other thing with the girls. That's valid. I wanna, I wanna get into a little bit of loving. Virginia versus Virginia Tees. It is what it is.

[B]

Same with the boys too.

[A]

Like, yeah. And we.

[B]

And I don't even get me started with the boys when, when black boys get on there. I hate black rant. You know, that's. You know, you black will never red. Like, it's like state your white woman never. Right? It's like you could have just. You just wanted that white.

[A]

And it's like, like shout out to Jamie Foxx. He just wants white and he leaves us out of it.

[B]

Leave me out of it. Like we as a collection of black women have nothing to do with you and your white wife. I promise you we don't. And it's like, it's this, it's this guilt and projection. Like you're, it's like you're constantly on the defense. It's like if you feel like you have to consistently defend it. Baby, I don't. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm just saying.

[A]

Do you have a problem with it?

[B]

Just saying.

[A]

Because Jamie Foxx be living his life. He don't give a.

[B]

Never said a thing he said.

[A]

And mind you, he ain't even tell us he like milk. We just peeped. I said, oh, he like milk that listen.

[B]

And I'll be like, gang, gang, do you bang, bang.

[A]

I be outside with my kang gangs.

[B]

I love Jamie Foxx, bro.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

One day I will meet him soon.

[A]

Yeah, he's so, so talented. Well, all right. Don't forget to subscribe to our Patreon, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

We're really trying to build Patreon out. We're doing the damn thing. Sidebars are returning. Our first sidebar that we're dropping.

[B]

Let us know who you guys want to see.

[A]

Yeah, first one is going to be Bria Jones from Tick Tock and Instagram. That should. That's going to be dropping whatever time this week we drop it. Let us know who else you guys want to see. And remember, sidebar is a Patreon exclusive. It is exclusively for our Patreon subscribers. We have a couple other things starting for Patreon outside of our sidebar, but we're going to start just with sidebar sidebar sidebar. So let us know who you would want to see, who you want us to ask to come on. The pod people have been really nice. They're really trying to come on and like, chat with us. I mean, regardless of what the Internet says, I think we seem nice because the people be excited.

[B]

We're stand up gals, you know what I mean? You know, and just to kind of like really hammer on Patreon really quick. I know we, we keep talking about it, but I want to explain to you the purpose of Patreon because I think a lot of people maybe don't really understand the purpose of Patreon. They're like, why, why am I subscribed to your Patreon when I can watch your podcast free? And that's valid, sister.

[A]

Super valid.

[B]

I touch and agree validation. But the purpose of the Patreon, of course, we, we do have to monetize ourselves because Unhinged Immoral is a working business at this point and we want to be able to pay our staff and pay for production and things like that and be able to scale so that we can actually live off of this. It's, it's. This is essentially a business that we are trying to grow and we want to be able to pay everybody fairly efficiently, but it's also going to help us with additional projects that we have going forward. You know, we individually have our own projects that we want to do, and this is helping us fund not only our life, but, you know, just additional things that we want to do outside of specifically with podcasting. And that is a way for us to, to make a living. It's. And with that, what you gain in return is, you know, early access to episodes with no ads and things like that. But you also get an opportunity to see a lot of really exclusive stuff. We have the sidebar series. We have the screw you series. We also have the slumber party series, which are all three exclusive series to Patreon. So you guys give us your $8 a month to help us keep the lights on and to. To pay our staff. And in return, we are gifting you guys with exclusive content as well as whenever we continue to drop merch, which merch is always available, by the way. You guys, of course, get early access to new drops, special discounts. And when we do our live show, you guys will get first dips on tickets. Anything that we do, the Screw Crew is going to get first. That is just kind of like our exchange. That is our, like, verbal contract with you guys. You guys are doing this for us and we're doing this for you.

[A]

It's a.

[B]

It's a given time.

[A]

No, the circle.

[B]

So, yeah, we definitely need that. And speaking of merch, listen, you know what I'm saying? Like, give us some. Give us some time to. To make sure we can do all the things we do. But our T shirts are available. They have been available since they dropped. So if you want a T shirt, because you can go ahead and get that right now, today.

[A]

Shout out to whoever bought a tote last week.

[B]

Yeah, somebody last week. Like, thanks, guys. We haven't even really promoted that. But we're going to lock in within these next couple of weeks to kind of really get a merch line out in a little bit more of efficient way. That makes sense for both us and for y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

So stay tuned for that. We are. We also are about to start back talking about a live show. So for those of y' all who don't know, we actually just signed on to the J Hill Network podcast network. So we're working closely with him and he's gonna, of course, be helping us.

[A]

Shout out to Joe Jackson production. But also he's our Joe Jackson.

[B]

So, yeah, stay tuned for that. It'll definitely be in Atlanta. We don't have dates and times and things y' all already know. But guess who, Guess who gonna know about it first, though?

[A]

Screw Crew.

[B]

Screw Crew.

[A]

Drop them screws in the chat. We need a soundboard.

[B]

What else? Yeah, Patreon, I don't know what else.

[A]

Follow us wherever you follow us on socials. I know Tick Tock is. I don't know what Tick Tock. Is doing. But you can follow both Jamila and I at at by the same names on TikTok. On Instagram, I would suggest to all content creators, I'm just speaking from my own experience. Last year, when Tick Tock first did the ban, I got really serious about building my Instagram up and I'm so happy that I did because now I definitely feel like, I know, like before I had this fear of like, you've created this community on an app and the app's future is uncertain. It's like, what is. It just all disappears, cross pollinating. In terms of. I know it's kind of cringe because Instagram is such a different beast, but once you get over that, just post what you're making because I can't tell you, like, even with Tick Tock, the way it's been acting and like us not having it during this freeze and it being really inconvenient, I didn't have the stress that I had last year where it's like all my work is for nothing. And I think a lot of content creators, if you didn't learn from the first time, then please learn from the second time. Build your across platform so that you can keep yourself afloat and keep putting your content out regardless of what happens on Tick Tock or any other app. When you're on multiple apps, it, it. You know what I'm saying? That's the biggest lesson I can preach.

[B]

Yeah, you got to be everywhere. You gotta be everywhere, baby.

[A]

Well, oh, also, follow me on Facebook, guys. Machiavelli. I'm trying to build my Facebook currently.

[B]

I, I too am on Facebook. I'm pretty sure it's just Jamila, Bill, y' all know, same everywhere. The other thing we're gonna say is because we're kind of, we're getting back in the swing of things of just kind of being more consistent overall. I want to tell you guys about something that you guys can expect. So also, if you are part of Patreon, we are going to be going live now when we record our podcast on Monday and we'll send the live chat link in the chat of Patreon and you guys will be able to talk to us, us as we're recording and kind of send us your input and things about the conversation that we're currently having and then we can like read, read out loud via recording. I know it'll probably take us a couple of weeks for everyone to get used to it, but just kind of want to tell y', all like that's something that we're implementing. And then we also plan on bringing back Going live on Tick Tock as we get ready to. To shoot content. Today is a little different because we're actually not shooting on the specific day that we are, you know, supposed to, because we're kind of like getting back back together. But you can definitely anticipate that. So to kind of give you guys a little bit of schedule, we record on Mondays at 11 Eastern Standard Time. So typically an hour before, around 10am Eastern Standard Time, we'll go live as we're getting ready and kind of just setting up the scene on Tick Tock, kind of chatting with you guys. And we'll also go live on Tick Tock on Thursdays, which is when we're going to be recording our sidebar episodes with some of your favorite creators. Same thing. Kind of just talking to you guys and engaging, of course, promoting the episode that drops that Thursday and then also giving you guys a sneak peek of who we're interviewing that day and have allow you guys to be able to ask us, send us questions that y' all would want us to ask to that creator.

[A]

Yep. We're working, guys. We're working. Okay. We earning independently.

[B]

I promised you.

[A]

We're trying to get. I mean, I know for me, which I'm trying to get consistent on Breakover with Darrington and Darling Diaries with Kousi. I feel like I know Jamila does so much, and I don't know. I don't even know everything Jamila does. She got 17 jobs, girl, so I can't even. Music manager, mogul, doula extraordinaire, content creator skits. What else? Weight loss kits on sale. The link is in all my bios. Listen, Serena, trying to take my spot, child. I did this first.

[B]

Yes, everybody. Really good stuff. Yeah. Love you guys. We'll see you next week.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

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